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Lee
01-21-2003, 12:02 AM
For organic chemistry, the only way for me was memorize and I hate them especially those CH symbols. I did like inorganic chemistry, it much more fun and of course, I love to play with fire, i.e. lab works and yeah, boiled the concentrate sulphuric acid. :D :D

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
lol ok what it means to me is that I tagged along with people I dont usually hang around with because my friends arent there ;)

It was a poetry trip aswel!I mean I like writing them :) especially when its tennis related ;) but I hate studying them :mad:

poetry :fiery:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Lee
For organic chemistry, the only way for me was memorize and I hate them especially those CH symbols. I did like inorganic chemistry, it much more fun and of course, I love to play with fire, i.e. lab works and yeah, boiled the concentrate sulphuric acid. :D :D

lol Lee! chemistry can be quite interesting at times, but not the way my boring professor teaches it. :rolleyes:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
ESPN is finally showing the good players. today they showed EVERY point of Kimmy's match against Amanda on tape delay and they said tomorrow they are gonna play the Juanqui/Wayne quarterfinal as a feature match starting at 2 pm. :) finally i will get to see Ferrero a complete match, or at least more than just 2 games! :bounce:

:eek::eek::eek:

YES!!! A whole Kimmy match and the promise of a whole Juanqui match (since we can't follow it anyway :()!!

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
why aren't there any matches being played on Vodafone today? :confused:

It was in that article I posted about Daniela, a preview of today's matches :)

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:14 AM
Hewitt never varied his strategy
By Patrick McEnroe
Special to ESPN.com

MELBOURNE, Australia -- As the match went on between Lleyton Hewittt and Younes El Aynaoui on Monday, you could see Hewitt was feeling some of the pressure of being the top seed. I've rarely seen him not change a losing strategy. He stuck with his same game plan and allowed El Aynaoui to dictate play. That caused Hewitt to lose 6-7 (4), 7-6 (4), 7-6 (5), 6-4.

El Aynaoui had to play great tennis to beat the world No. 1. He finished with 33 aces and hit 71 percent of his first serves. Hewitt was completely dumbfounded by El Aynaoui's serve.

I have never seen Hewitt aced so many times. He's always able to get his racket on the ball. He was just flat-footed on the serve. He never tried to give El Aynaoui a different look by backing up or changing his strategy. This guy was having the serving day of his life and when a player gets in a zone like that, you have to do something to get them out of it. I think Hewitt probably was just shell-shocked and sort of froze. Clearly, by the end, he was flustered as he threw in a double-fault at break point in the fourth set.

Andy Roddick's five-set 6-7 (4), 3-6, 7-5, 6-3, 6-2 victory earlier was clearly what we'll think of, someday when we look back at his career, as a milestone victory. For him to come back from two sets and a break down against a player, Mikhail Youzhny, who is his age and who he'd never defeated before, was impressive. Forgetting about how Roddick does in this tournament, this is one of those matches you put down as a milestone in a young player's career. He was being completely outplayed in hot conditions. Yet, he was able to keep his composure, vary his game plan and dominate the last few sets.

I don't think there's any question Roddick is much happier playing El Aynaoui than Hewitt. His game matches up well with El Aynaoui because he has as big a serve and as big a forehand. Obviously El Aynaoui is dangerous, but Roddick will win this quarterfinal match. - could PMac be jinxing Pandy like he did to James? i can't believe McEnroe would say that he is SURE Roddick will win - Younes is gonna shock the hell out of him tomorrow. :D

I spoke to Roddick after the match and he has the right mentality. He knows this victory was just another step. I like that he's put pressure on himself to do well in the Grand Slams this year, and I like that he feels he's got a couple of more matches to play -- maybe three more.

James Blake lost his fourth-round match to Rainer Schuettler. It was always going to be a difficult match for Blake against the underrated Schuettler. I think Blake felt the pressure that most people thought he should win.

He needs to learn to play his game. Instead, he came out a little bit tentative. But this is another step in his learning process. He has more game than Schuettler, he just didn't put it together. But I still feel that Blake is going to have a great year.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:15 AM
:wavey: Hi, Leo! Studying is a pain, but don't let chemistry overwhelm you too much. You can only learn so much at a time and then your brain can't hold anymore (seriously -- cognitive overload ;)), so best of luck to you! I'm sure you'll do great :)

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
LOL, Hackie! :D

For me, this is the best AO to date because Juanqui's still in and has a huge shot here. I'd rather he play Seb than Agassi in the semis but I have a feeling Agassi will take Seb out in four sets (of course I just said that out loud because I'm hoping for reverse psychology and that the opposite will happen!:bounce: ). But I'm not too happy about the Kooyong result.

I guess the upside of the prospective AA-JCF semi is that jingoistic ESPN will for sure show it. And if Juanqui beats AA, it'll shut up all those haters and doubters out there. :)

well ESPN will definitely show both semifinals - but if it's Andre vs. Juanqui, then it will prolly be the semifinal that they show LIVE. :D

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:wavey: Hi, Leo! Studying is a pain, but don't let chemistry overwhelm you too much. You can only learn so much at a time and then your brain can't hold anymore (seriously -- cognitive overload ;)), so best of luck to you! I'm sure you'll do great :)

thanks Hackie. i hope you're right. :)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
I don't think there's any question Roddick is much happier playing El Aynaoui than Hewitt. His game matches up well with El Aynaoui because he has as big a serve and as big a forehand. Obviously El Aynaoui is dangerous, but Roddick will win this quarterfinal match. - could PMac be jinxing Pandy like he did to James? i can't believe McEnroe would say that he is SURE Roddick will win - Younes is gonna shock the hell out of him tomorrow. :D

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: He creams his pants over Roddick and then criticizes James for "feeling the pressure of being the favorite against an underrated player like Schuettler". LMAO, he's in the for the shock of a lifetime when Vowel Man :fiery: drubs his precious little Roddick :D:D:D

Thanks for that, Leo :D

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
well ESPN will definitely show both semifinals - but if it's Andre vs. Juanqui, then it will prolly be the semifinal that they show LIVE. :D

Of course, look at AA's schedule for this whole AO so far. He always play at about the time that live broadcast start in US, i.e. the 3rd match in the afternoon.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:21 AM
Hopefully Llodra & Santoro can win their doubles match in two so I can see some of Dani tonight :) I want to be able to follow at least one match, and this promises to be good -- against Venus :eek:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Lee
James can try to get the words out but I doubt it with ESPN. I am still looking for the after match interview he had with the host (ESPN has a guy, don't know his name, know very little about tennis, he's an ESPN commentator for football I guess) and in Gotennis board, someone accused that guy being racist and asked him very embarassing questions. I don't have any transcript or watched the interview, so I reserve judgement on this but the fact that ESPN put someone there to host the show, I have no idea why. There are Mary Joe, Pam, Maria, PMac, Jimmy, Chris and Washington there already, why they still need and outsider hosting a tennis game.

yeah, the new host is Chris Fowler.

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:24 AM
well it's looks like Santoro/Llodra will be over soon. the Frenchmen are up a set and break. :)

remember their semifinal match last year when Llodra accidentally killed the bird?! :eek:

Dissident
01-21-2003, 12:29 AM
Hmmm, where is it that I sign up for the Vowel Man cheering team?? :p
I dont dare saying this a lot in here, but I like Younes. He is a humble and funny man, along with country man Karin Alami. They are both great fun to watch. Younes once played here in my city, and he had a SMILIE drawn in his strings instead of the string company brand. :p :p

AND GO DANI!!! :bounce: They will start soon.
Ill be back in an hour for the match :wavey:

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
yeah, the new host is Chris Fowler.

And I don't like this guy a bit before the above mentioned may not exist incident.

Thanks for the article, Leo!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 12:30 AM
Oh, and btw, LMAO @ Dr Peedy and his erased bookmarks. That was probably the most creative way to vent frustration ever!!! :D
Sorry, but it was just too funny... ;)

You´ll be alright. I mean, if we Guga fans are alright after he lost to that HorseMan.... :p

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:32 AM
Bye Diss! :wavey: I think the guy's name is Harim Arazi, not Karin Alami.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:35 AM
:wavey: Hi and :wavey: Bye, Dissident! LOL, no you can't speak well of Younes :fiery: here, but I think today is a special day. I don't think any of us have anything against him personally, but he does have a ridiculous record against Juanqui, hence the :fiery:

Lee, there is a player named Karim Alami from Morrocco, but he hasn't been doing as well in recent years.

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:37 AM
:wavey: hi and bye Diss.

btw, after your great review of Coldplay's A Rush of Blood To the Head, i went out and bought the cd. i'm just listening to it now for the first time. :)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:38 AM
Ooh, damn, I keep meaning to buy that album! :o Thanks for reminding me, Leo. For now, I'm content sticking with my U2 :)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:39 AM
OH!! Mrs. B left another message in her thread :) You guys should go visit it more often.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 12:39 AM
Hicham Arazi
Younes El Aynaoui
Karim Alami
Mounir El Aarej

:p Great team :D lol

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack

Lee, there is a player named Karim Alami from Morrocco, but he hasn't been doing as well in recent years.

Yes, you're right TH! Now I remember that name. But, yes, that guy hardly doing anything these years.

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:43 AM
Now the 4th one is really out of my limited knowledge on tennis. :D :D

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
Hicham Arazi
Younes El Aynaoui
Karim Alami
Mounir El Aarej

:p Great team :D lol

:sad: They gave our Swissies a problem in DC, though. Michel :sad:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:45 AM
Dani and Venus are up next. :D

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:48 AM
GOOOOOOO DANI! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

We need Layla to tell us how to say 'Go' in Slovakian -- or maybe Zosse would know? Either way . . . .

DAVAI!

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:49 AM
Diss, I am too lazy to look this up. Will Guga play DC in Brasil or *sign* what's the team they will play?

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:51 AM
It's Brazil vs Sweden, in Sweden, on indoor carpet.

Here's the preview from DavisCup.com:

Although Brazil is now in its 11th year in the elite World Group and Sweden has featured in 21 previous years of World Group play, these two countries have never crossed paths in Davis Cup before this tie. It will be fascinating to see which of the two teams will win this important first encounter.
Sweden has chosen to host this tie on a fast indoor carpet court, in the hope of blunting their visitors' clay court rallying skills. The last time Brazil won a tie on indoor carpet came in 1991 against Uruguay in the American Zonal Group 1 competition. The Swedish team must surely hope that this choice of surface will play to their advantage against a Brazilian team that has limited experience on carpet. However, both teams are in the top 10 ITF Davis Cup Nations Ranking - Sweden is 6th and Brazil 9th - and anything is possible in Davis Cup.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:53 AM
Prospective teams:

SWEDEN -- Thomas Johansson, Thomas Enqvist, Jonas Bjorkman, Andreas Vinciguerra

BRASIL -- Gustavo Kuerten, Andre Sa, Fernando Meligeni, Flavio Saretta

Lee
01-21-2003, 12:55 AM
Thanks, TH! The Swedish team has Guga's play in mind when they choose indoor carpet. But, this time of year in Sweden, seems indoor carpet is the only choice.

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:56 AM
will Thomas Johansson be playing for that tie, Hackie? and what about Thomas Enqvist?

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:56 AM
Other ties of interest:

SWITZERLAND vs the NETHERLANDS

indoor carpet, the Netherlands

This is the sixth meeting between these two nations with Switzerland leading the series 3:2. They last played in the first round of the 1995 World Group with Richard Krajicek leading the Dutch to victory.
The Dutch have decided to play the tie on a fast indoor carpet to maximise their chances of success. Although they are eighth on the ITF Davis Cup Nations Ranking while the Swiss are 13th, the tie is likely to be closely fought. And with all the exuberant Dutch and Swiss fans attending, there is sure to be a special atmosphere in Arnhem's Gelredome.

Prospective teams:

NETHERLANDS -- Sjeng Schalken, Paul Haarhius, Raemon Sluiter, Martin Verkerk

SWITZERLAND -- Roger Federer, Michel Kratochvil, Mark Rosset, George Bastl

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:57 AM
I have no idea if he'll be playing by then -- these are the prospective teams chosen by the webmaster of the DC website.

I hope so :sad: I want Thomas to get better :(

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 12:58 AM
CROATIA vs USA

in Croatia, indoor carpet

This is the first encounter between these two nations. Although it is only Croatia's third year in the elite World Group (they made their debut in the 1995 World Group First Round) they have already made their mark on World tennis with an impressive win against Germany in last year's World Group First Round. USA on the other hand has one of the competition's most impressive records, claiming a remarkable 31 Davis Cup titles. It will be fascinating to see which of the two teams will win this important first encounter.

Prospective teams:

CROATIA -- Goran Ivanisevic, Ivan Ljubicic, Mario Ancic, Ivo Karlovic

USA -- Andy Roddick, James Blake, Todd Martin, Mardy Fish

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:58 AM
no Richard in DC? :sad:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 12:59 AM
it looks like we'll get to see Goran play again when ESPN shows that DC tie! :bounce:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:00 AM
BELGIUM vs SPAIN

in Spain, on outdoor clay

This is the third encounter between these two nations with the series tied at 1:1. Their last two encounters were back in 1930 and 1956 and it is fair to say that much has changed since then. It will therefore be fascinating to see which of the two teams will be victorious in their first encounter in 47 years.
The choice of ground and surface can often be a deciding factor in a Davis Cup tie and the Spaniards will certainly hope the slow clay courts of Seville will play to their advantage. Spain is currently ranked seven places above Belgium in the ITF Davis Cup Nations Ranking (Spain is fourth and Belgium 11th) and, with the home advantage, they go into this tie the favourites on paper. Yet, with Wimbledon semifinalist Malisse as a possible component of the Belgian armoury, anything could happen.

Prospective teams:

BELGIUM -- Xavier Malisse, Olivier Rochus, Gilles Elseneer, Tom Vanhoudt

SPAIN -- Alex Corretja, Alberto Martin, Juan Balcells, Tommy Robredo

I know that Juan Carlos is going to play Davis Cup, so I don't know where this guy's head is :rolleyes:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I have no idea if he'll be playing by then -- these are the prospective teams chosen by the webmaster of the DC website.

I hope so :sad: I want Thomas to get better :(

i hope both Thomas' get better soon.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:03 AM
RUSSIA vs CZECH REPUBLIC

in Czech Republic, on indoor clay

This is the eighth encounter between these two nations with the Czech Republic leading the series 4:3. They last met in the 1994 World Group quarterfinal with Russia defeating the Czech Republic 3-2 in St. Petersburg. Now the Czech Republic has the home advantage and will hope to emerge victorious.
Playing on a slow indoor clay court, the Czech Republic will be hoping to negate the power-play of the higher ranked Russians. However, as we saw last year, the Russian team can perform on any surface and in Davis Cup anything is possible. Buoyed by home advantage, the Czech team will hope to topple the Russians and become only the fifth nation to eliminate a Davis Cup Champion in the subsequent year's opening round.

Prospective teams:

CZECH REPUBLIC -- Jiri Novak, Bohdan Ulirach, David Rikl, Jan Vacek

RUSSIA -- Marat Safin, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Mikhail Youzhny, Andrei Stoliarov

I'm sure Nikolay Davydenko will be in contention to take the fourth Russian spot . . .

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I know that Juan Carlos is going to play Davis Cup, so I don't know where this guy's head is :rolleyes:

what an idiot. :rolleyes:

Dani serving at 40-30!

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
it looks like we'll get to see Goran play again when ESPN shows that DC tie! :bounce:

Goran AND Mario :D

Is Richard planning to keep playing tennis? He's so fragile . . . and I haven't heard. This is still two weeks away, so the teams aren't set yet.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:04 AM
LOL, Finland gets a bye in the first round of zonal competition :D

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:05 AM
Dani holds for 1-0 :)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:06 AM
YES! A hold :D

GOOO DANI!!!!!!!

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Is Richard planning to keep playing tennis? He's so fragile . . . and I haven't heard. This is still two weeks away, so the teams aren't set yet.

i have no idea; i haven't heard any news on Krajicek since he lost to Rainer in the 2nd round of the AO. i'm just relieved that Rich got through the Australia tournaments (he played 3) without having to retire or withdraw once. it sounds like he is healthier than last year. :)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:08 AM
Spain ready to ‘do something really big’, says Corretja

As far as the Davis Cup is concerned Alex Corretja has been there, won it, and knows what goes into making a truly great team.

So, when the Spaniard who formed part of the winning team in 2000 looks you in the eye and makes a prediction, it’s worth taking note.

“I think that with this team we could be ready to do something really big again,” said Corretja, when asked about Spain’s chances in 2003.

“We have plenty of players, and especially with guys like [Juan Carlos] Ferrero, [Albert] Costa, [Carlos] Moya - all top ten players - as well as myself, [Tommy] Robredo, [Juan] Balcells, we have a really strong team.”

Spain open up against Belgium on clay in Seville, and even though their opponents boast Xavier Malisse and the Rochus brothers [Olivier and Christophe] as part of their team, and possibly emerging talent Kristof Vliegen, Corretja is understandably confident.

“You never want to say that of course you are going to win but I have to be honest, I really like the draw,” he said. “Especially because we are playing in Spain and any time we play in Spain is going to be good for us. On clay, I think we have a better team than they do, so when I saw the draw I felt pretty comfortable.”

The year they won the Davis Cup in 2000, the Spaniards enjoyed all four matches on home turf. Away from home and off their favoured clay court surface though, they haven’t traditionally been as competitive.

The turning point came last year when they travelled to Houston to take on Pete Sampras and the United States team, on grass, in the quarterfinals of the World Group. No one gave Spain a chance on a specially imported grass court, but on the opening day, Corretja achieved the seemingly impossible. Standing two sets down to Sampras, the seven-time Wimbledon champion, Corretja came all the way back to win.

“You know how Spanish people think and feel about grass,” said Corretja. “Everybody thinks we can’t play on grass, but I think I showed to everybody that I could beat the best player on grass and any other surface, even though I lost the first two sets on his court, in his country.”

Injury prevented him from playing any further part, and the United States went on to win; but his victory over Sampras still ranks as one of the better moments of his career.

“If we had won it would have been unbelievable, but for me anyway it was a great moment, a great achievement because it’s never easy to do what I did, especially after losing the first two sets. That was something big.”

But Corretja isn’t prepared to simply sit back and admire his work. He believes Spain can now take confidence from last year’s road trip to go all the way to the final this time.

“No matter what surface, I think we have shown that we can play anywhere, no matter if it’s clay, hard court or grass,” he said.

“We have to understand that even if we play outside we have a chance to win.”

Were Spain to beat Belgium, and America overcome Croatia in Zagreb, then this year's Spain vs USA tie would obviously be in Spain, an added incentive for Corretja and his team-mates.

It’s all about team-work for the team led by Jordi Arrese, he believes.

“We should try to be a team and always put the team first,” said Corretja.

“If the captain decides that you are not the one for this tie you have to understand that. If you’re saying that you don’t understand why you are not on the team you can create a bad atmosphere. I think it’s important to have calm on the team.”

At least until the celebrations afterwards.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:10 AM
No! :sad:

Break back, Dani!

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:11 AM
damn, break back Dani!

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:13 AM
thanks for posting that article, Hacks. i love what Alex said about the Spaniards' ability to play on all surfaces - so true. :D

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:15 AM
bp for Dani!!

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:15 AM
YES! :bounce:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:15 AM
she breaks for 2-2 :bounce:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:16 AM
Williams first serve % -- 25% :eek:

Daniela's -- 54%

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:20 AM
3-2 Daniela :bounce:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:20 AM
That's my girl! Just settle into the match, Daniela :)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:24 AM
Dissident, is this the story you were telling me about awhile ago?

Gangs of Rio de Janeiro

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Alexandre Rodrigues as Rocket, a Brazilian teenager who chooses a camera over a gun in "City of God."

By STEPHEN HOLDEN

In "City of God," Fernando Meirelles's scorching anecdotal history of violence in the slums of Rio de Janeiro, a fretful boy with the cute nickname Steak & Fries (Darlan Cunha), begs for a gun that would certify his membership in one of two rival gangs. "I smoke, I snort, I've killed and robbed," he pleads none too convincingly. "I'm a man."

Handed a weapon he doesn't know how to use, this eager new recruit, whose voice has barely begun to change, rushes to join one of the clashing posses of armed children swarming through Cidade de Deus (City of God). A sprawling housing project built in the 1960's on the outskirts of Rio and left to fester in a poisonous stew of poverty, drugs and crime, it has degenerated into a war zone so dangerous that visitors from outside risk being shot to death.

The movie traces the neighborhood's decline over a decade and a half, from a sun-baked shantytown of earth-colored bungalows where the children while away the days in soccer games and petty thievery into a shadowy slum teeming with armed adolescent warriors.

The portrait of a boy soldier enlisting in a volunteer criminal army with an astronomical mortality rate is one of many profoundly unsettling images that jostle through the film. Another is a scene in which a gangster coerces a frightened boy, who has been poaching on his territory, to choose between being shot in the hand or the foot.

As the victim, who chooses the foot, hobbles away in agony, he is ordered not to limp.

"City of God," which opens today in New York and Los Angeles, is the latest and one of the most powerful in a recent spate of movies that remind us that the civilized society we take for granted is actually a luxury. Although the police pop up now and again in Cidade de Deus, law and order are as scarce on these mean streets (just minutes away from one of the world's most glorious beaches) as they are in the slums of 1860's Manhattan depicted in Martin Scorsese's "Gangs of New York."

Anyone who once dressed up as a cowboy and played shoot-'em-up games with the neighborhood kids will wince with sadness as these packs of children cavort through the streets, flourishing real guns as though they were toys and chattering excitedly about murder.

"City of God," which has already created a sensation in Brazil, was adapted from a best-selling novel by Paulo Lins, who grew up in Cidade de Deus. Its narrator, Rocket (Alexandre Rodrigues), is a young photographer from the same neighborhood whose loose-jointed yarns follow the fates of a number of his childhood acquaintances. What saves Rocket from being consumed by the thug life around him is his passion for photography, along with his own comic ineptitude at crime.

The movie is divided into three chapters, each bleaker and more appalling than the one before; they parallel the intertwining destinies of Rocket and one of his childhood playmates, Li'l Dice (Douglas Silva). After growing up and changing his nickname to Li'l Zé (Leandro Firmino da Hora takes over the role), he ascends into a trigger-happy drug dealer and local kingpin.

"City of God" can be grimly amusing, as in the opening scene, in which Li'l Zé and his juvenile army amuse themselves by chasing a flustered chicken down the street. That ridiculous image introduces a note of absurdist humor that is carried forward by Rocket's dispassionately chatty storytelling. From here the movie immediately flashes back to the 1960's and Rocket's recollections of a clique of adolescent outlaws called the Tender Trio, whose big-time criminal career begins with their robbery of a brothel.

As the story lurches ahead, the drugs become harder (cocaine supplants marijuana) and the weaponry more deadly. The second chapter, set in the 1970's, focuses on Li'l Zé, now a grinning sociopath with an appetite for murder, and his reign of terror. The only thing keeping his crazier impulses in check is his lieutenant Benny (Phellipe Haagensen), a smart, good-hearted gangster with a hippie sensibility who eventually decides to abandon the criminal life. The farewell party Benny arranges for himself at which the merriment turns tragically violent (to the strains of "Kung Fu Fighting") is one of the film's most spectacular set pieces.

The final third, set in the early 1980's, finds Li'l Zé's empire threatened by an even younger crew of pre-teenage gangsters called the Runts (some of them only 9 and 10), who disregard his authority. It all builds to a showdown between Li'l Zé and a rival band led by Knockout Ned (Seu Jorge), a peaceable bus-fare collector who turns into avenging fury after Li'l Zé rapes his girlfriend and shoots his brother.

Rocket, meanwhile, cinches his escape from the criminal life when his sensational photo of Li'l Zé and his posse winds up on the front page of a newspaper. Resigned to being killed for exposing the gangster, Rocket instead finds himself hired by the publicity-hungry thug as a kind of court photographer. Most of the movie's final bloodbath is observed through his camera's lens.

If its panoramic scenes of street fighting recall "Gangs of New York," the tone and structure of "City of God" are closer to Mr. Scorsese's "Goodfellas," with which it shares the same attitude of brash nonchalance and fondness for tall-sounding tales.

Underscored by samba music, much of the treachery and violence unfold in what could be described only as a party atmosphere.

Because it was filmed with hand-held cameras on the streets of Rio (but not in Cidade de Deus) with a cast that includes some 200 nonprofessional actors, "City of God" conveys the authenticity of a cinéma vérité scrapbook. Cesar Charlone's restless cinematography is a flashy potpourri of effects that include slow and accelerated motion, the use of split screens and a dramatically varied expressionistic palette.

As the movie's frenetic visual rhythms and mood swings synchronize with the zany, adrenaline-fueled impulsiveness of its lost youth on the rampage, you may find yourself getting lost in this teeming netherworld. To experience this devastating movie is a little like attending a children's birthday party that goes wildly out of control. You watch in helpless disbelief as the apple-cheeked revelers turn into little devils gleefully smashing everything in sight.

"City of God" is rated R (Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian). It has scenes of violence and graphic sex talk.

CITY OF GOD

Directed by Fernando Meirelles; written (in Portuguese, with English subtitles) by Braulio Mantovani, based on the novel by Paulo Lins; director of photography, Cesar Charlone; edited by Daniel Rezende; music by Antônio Pinto and Ed Côrtes; art director, Tulé Peake; produced by Andrea Barata Ribeiro and Maurício Andrade Ramos; released by Miramax Films. At the Angelika Film Center, Mercer and Houston Streets, Greenwich Village. Running time: 130 minutes. This film is rated R.

WITH: Seu Jorge (Knockout Ned), Alexandre Rodrigues (Rocket), Leandro Firmino da Hora (Li'l Zé), Phellipe Haagensen (Benny), Douglas Silva (Li'l Dice) and Darlan Cunha (Steak & Fries).

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:25 AM
it seems Lee and Diss are gone. :( i'll be leaving soon so i can study some more for chemistry.

Dani serving at 3-3, 30-15.

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:29 AM
damn Venus broke for 4-3 :(

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:29 AM
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT! :fiery:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:34 AM
Venus 5*-4 :( BREAK BACK, DANI!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:35 AM
Hi again
Venus serving for set :mad:

TH

1. I was not making fun of their team, they are dangerous. ;) I was just talking about their names full of vowels. :p

2. Fernando Meligeni won´t play the DC tie in Sweden.

3. Yes, thats the novel and the movie I told you about. Didnt I say it would pop there sooner or later? ;) Is that the famous New York Times article??

CMON DANI!!

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:36 AM
Dani saved two set points! it's deuce! :) now break back!!

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:36 AM
Saves a set point :D Deuce!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:36 AM
BP DANI!!!
COME ON!!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:37 AM
SHIT!!
Why did that lob have to go out??? :sad:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:37 AM
saves another one :D

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:38 AM
SET POINT :fiery:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:38 AM
sp again for Venus :fiery:

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:39 AM
GREAT PASSING SHOT!!!! :D back to deuce

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:39 AM
back to deuce!! :D

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
TH

1. I was not making fun of their team, they are dangerous. ;) I was just talking about their names full of vowels. :p

2. Fernando Meligeni won´t play the DC tie in Sweden.

3. Yes, thats the novel and the movie I told you about. Didnt I say it would pop there sooner or later? ;) Is that the famous New York Times article??

CMON DANI!!

1. LOL, I know you weren't making fun of them! :) They are dangerous, gave my Swissies all they could handle.

2. Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes: The DC webmaster isn't too swift on the uptake, I guess.

3. Yes, that's the NYTimes movie review :) Do you say that sarcastically? :confused: I'm just happy I remembered correctly!

Dani saves another set point! :bounce::bounce:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:40 AM
FUCK! :mad:

And Dani *has* won a break point, idiot :rolleyes:

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:41 AM
6-4 Venus. :fiery:

i'm gone. :wavey:

good luck to Daniela, Juanqui, Sebby, and Juju tonite! :bounce:

Lee
01-21-2003, 01:41 AM
I'm back from dinner! Leo, when will the TV coverage starts?

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:42 AM
:wavey: Bye, Leo! Good luck!

Leo7
01-21-2003, 01:43 AM
it starts at 10:30 Lee. ;)

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:43 AM
Why sarcastically? Not at all.
I heard around here they were really nice with the movie. Thats why I thought that would be it. ;)
The names of the characters are really funny in english... lol :p

Meligeni wont play because he thinks he is to weak on carpet. Andre Sa will probably play the tie, or maybe Saretta to rest Sa for the doubles.
I guess they will give a young guy a chance as the fourth player, as Fernando said he will stay at home in Brazil.

Lee
01-21-2003, 01:44 AM
Bye Leo!

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:46 AM
Dani holds to start the second.

RogiFan
01-21-2003, 01:46 AM
:rolleyes: Venus won the 1st set :rolleyes: but Dani held her own it seems.

Come on Dani!!!

Hi Diss, Hackie, Leo and Lee!

I saw a review of that Brazilian film recently. Looks very REAL and raw -- nothing Hollywood about it.

I see Talk to Her won a G Globe... I have to say I didn't like it half as much as All about my mother. I still have mixed feelings about it. Has anyone seen it exc. maybe Layla?? Interestingly the main character is a man when most of Pedro's films have women as protagonists -- I know there are two women at the heart of this movie and another man.

Can Grosgros do the dirty on AA?? He better! :p

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:46 AM
Dani started holding her serve. Good! Maybe now that she is behind she can hit her shots with less pressure.

A little analysis:
Venus is shaky. Still.
Daniela didnt manage a way to figure it out, it seems. The match is close, but Dani could be winning it if she was more decisive especially on Venus´ second serve.
She can be more dangerous if she keeps the ball deep and make less errors, than Venus´ ones will start to bump up on bad times.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:50 AM
The board is being slow again :rolleyes:

Dani is holding easily now, it seems. Good :)

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by RogiFan
:rolleyes: Venus won the 1st set :rolleyes: but Dani held her own it seems.

Come on Dani!!!

Hi Diss, Hackie, Leo and Lee!

I saw a review of that Brazilian film recently. Looks very REAL and raw -- nothing Hollywood about it.

I see Talk to Her won a G Globe... I have to say I didn't like it half as much as All about my mother. I still have mixed feelings about it. Has anyone seen it exc. maybe Layla?? Interestingly the main character is a man when most of Pedro's films have women as protagonists -- I know there are two women at the heart of this movie and another man.

Can Grosgros do the dirty on AA?? He better! :p

Uhumm... I cant believe you forgot I saw that movie after I talked so much about it. With you, including. :p

BOARD IS
S L O W
DAMN!

Lee
01-21-2003, 01:53 AM
Is it me or the board is verrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy slow? Anyway, I determine to leave the computer alone when there are matches. Everytime I stay with the scoreboard, like I just came back from dinner and Dani lost the 1st set, the player I cheer lost.

So see you, TH, RF and Diss.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:54 AM
Venus serves 1-2

0-15 Double fault
0-30 Return winner as Venus hits a slow second serve
0-40 Daniela hits a winner as she takes control of another weak second serve
Game Dani with another DF
Daniela leads 3-1

I WISH!!!! :mad:
Theres no reason why Daniela is losing games at love on Venus serve. She is shaky, and except for this last one, giving her plenty of opportunities to score games just like the one I mentioned

RogiFan
01-21-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
Uhumm... I cant believe you forgot I saw that movie after I talked so much about it. With you, including. :p

BOARD IS
S L O W
DAMN!

Of course I know you saw it first, Diss -- that's why I didn't mention you!

I think the Brazilian film is far too real for the American movie-going public... sounds good though -- it hasn't opened here yet.

Can anyone tell me when you get the Men's semis in the US?? I already mentioned that we don't get it on TV here unless they hav changed the sched... so dumb! :rolleyes:

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:56 AM
GREAT!!! :rolleyes:
Its happening just the other way around, almost. :mad:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 01:57 AM
ARGH! DANIELA, YOU HAVE TO HOLD SERVE :fiery:

Dissident
01-21-2003, 01:57 AM
Just did. :mad:
Williams to serve 3-2

*hitting head at desk* GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:00 AM
OMG! Look at that! She is hitting double faults and slipping second serves at the tape all the time! It shows she is nervous, has low confidence.

Daniela, HELLLLLLLOOOOO!!!
Its your clue!! ;)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:01 AM
RF -- Semis are on Wednesday, no?

ESPN -- 2 to 5 pm EST
ESPN2 -- 9:30 pm to 12:30 am EST

Or are they on Thursday?

ESPN2 -- 3:30 am to 6:30 am EST
ESPN -- 2 to 5 pm EST
ESPN2 -- 9 pm to 1 am EST

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:01 AM
Am I a good teacher or what??? lol ;)

Way to go!!! :D:D

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:03 AM
Dani breaks back :)

Now hold, for the love of all that's good!!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:05 AM
Damn!!
Oh Dani, COME ON!!!!!
She has issues chosing when to attack and when to be more conservative.
She is not using her net play, only when she SHOULDNT use it. :(
And risking WAAAAAAAAY too much all the time.

Venus wont give her chances all the time.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:06 AM
Now remember my lesson and do it again!!! :p

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:12 AM
Fuck all :rolleyes:

She did better than this last year.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:12 AM
BAD BAD BAD!! :(

She is really lacking on the strategy department. The rest seems fine. Her backhand is killer, her forehand is good, her serve is good too.
But her choices of play are usually bad. :sad:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:13 AM
Venus has hit 27 winners to Dani's 5 :( She warmed up and got into the match and Dani shouldn't have let her.

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:14 AM
0-30, 3-5 down :(

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:15 AM
64 63

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:16 AM
Daniela :sad:

Where has your brain gone? :(

I hope this isn't a sign of things to come . . .

Dissident
01-21-2003, 02:21 AM
Hackie, Ill go to bed now, so I can be online for Juanqui´s match.
I wonder if anyone will be here... and if ESPN will show it. NOT! :mad:

Anyway, good night all! :wavey:

RogiFan
01-21-2003, 02:25 AM
:( too bad for Daniela... another one down and another American moves on... :rolleyes: :mad:

OK, ALLEZ SEB, GROSGROS A GOGO!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1370000/images/_1373976_agassi6.jpg


We want AA to look like this after tonight's match!!!

Where is Bill C when you need him? ;)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 02:28 AM
Goodnight, Diss :wavey:

Believe it or not, ESPN is going to show the Ferrero match on tape delay tomorrow :eek: Here, at least. I'm not going to be awake for it, so someone else will have to collect netcams if you guys want them.

Can you believe the shit that's going on in GM. Mrs. Guga is really starting to piss me off. It's like she can't see her total, obvious hypocracy :rolleyes:

Vera
01-21-2003, 02:48 AM
Hi everyone :wavey:. But looks like I'm the only one here. I'm ready to cheer for Seb. Allez Seb Allez. Beat that Ahole.

RF, I'm so sorry for Rogi. But I really like your new avatar :D.

"go read some posts*

RogiFan
01-21-2003, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Hi everyone :wavey:. But looks like I'm the only one here. I'm ready to cheer for Seb. Allez Seb Allez. Beat that Ahole.

RF, I'm so sorry for Rogi. But I really like your new avatar :D.

"go read some posts*

Thanks, Vera [and Leo] -- it's appropriate for the occasion! ;) And I do want Juanqui to win... win... win!!! :D

Will you be around for his match tonight?? I'll be sleeping [sort of... I couldn't sleep last night worrying about Rogi...].

ALLEZ SEB!! Vous pouvez le faire!!! Battez-le!!!

Vera
01-21-2003, 03:06 AM
RF. Can you believe they didn't even show Rogi's match, eventhough he lost? Another big tourney that Rogi didn't get any coverage.:mad:

I want to change avatar too. But then, why change it when thing is still good :), superstition :o .

I felt asleep last nite watching Lleyton's match on that damn delayed TSN at 1am. And my arms are aching bcos of exercises :o. But I don't think I can sleep tonite without knowing what happen in Juanqui's match though. So I think I'll try to also capture some netcams. Though I will also be watching Seb's match on TV since it's that delayed broadcast again. Somehow TSN thinks curling and WWF are more interesting to be shown on prime time :rolleyes:.

Vera
01-21-2003, 03:08 AM
Damn, Ahole brokes Seb :mad:. Break back!

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:11 AM
LMAO -- The Aussies don't like Venus :D

Venus Williams advances to semifinals
By PHIL BROWN, Associated Press Writer
January 20, 2003
AP - Jan 20, 10:14 EST

MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) -- Venus Williams wasn't fazed a bit when spectators loudly called some of her shots out.

Williams responded with a burst of winners midway through the first set that helped carry her to a 6-4, 6-3 victory over Daniela Hantuchova on Tuesday and into the Australian Open semifinals.

"I was fortunate to get through,'' Williams said. "I don't think Daniela played as well as she wanted to today.''

Williams is one victory away from a potential fourth consecutive Grand Slam tournament final against younger sister Serena, who beat her for three major titles last year.

Serena plays her quarterfinal Wednesday against Meghann Shaughnessy.

In the fifth game, spectators yelled that Venus Williams' previous shot had been out when she won a point with a volley. On the next point, a roar of "out'' came from many in the crowd on Williams' forehand. There was no call from the line judge, but she missed the next shot.

After she lost the game for 2-3 on an out call that was loudly applauded, Williams came back to win her serve at love and broke for 4-3.


She had some shaky moments later, but broke three times in the second set, setting up match point with a backhand crosscourt passing shot on the run and winning when Hantuchova sent a backhand long.

She also served six aces at speeds of up to 125 mph, shown as 201 kilometers an hour on the board.

"I don't know if I served well, but did everyone see the 201?'' she asked later. "I was surprised when I saw that speed. I got a bit distracted but I got my focus back.''

Hantuchova, a 19-year-old Slovakian seeded seventh, came close to beating Williams at last year's Australian Open, but now has a 0-4 record against her.

kiro
01-21-2003, 03:20 AM
Vera - I watched Roger's game last night. I'm in China, CCTV showed the match on video.
It's not as bad as I supposed to be...Roger did fight a lot, he did make some great shots. But obviously he's not playing a solid match. He's been attacking in various ways, forehand and backhand, lines and volley, but it seems that he's not confident in either of them. He's got so many UEs. And not so concentrated from the very beginning. :(
I know David is also a good player and last night David played a solid match comparatively. But I still think that if Roger play like what he did in Shanghai TMC's matches, he could win that match.

Vera
01-21-2003, 03:22 AM
Seb lost first set :sad: Allez Seb. Beat Ahole and be the first one in this millenium :).

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:25 AM
ALLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEZ SEBASTIEN!!!!!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Dissident
01-21-2003, 03:28 AM
Gee, I didnt go to bed, and all Andy´s fault. :p

I know what you mean, that thread is hell. lol
And then I go to Guga´s forum and see a question "should Guga dump Larri Passos?". Man, I got fired up!! :o

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
And then I go to Guga´s forum and see a question "should Guga dump Larri Passos?". Man, I got fired up!! :o

Yeah, I saw that too and almost let him have it, but thought, hmm, I'm still in juvenile mode from that thread :D so I figured I'd let you have the first crack at it :D

Vera
01-21-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by kiro
Vera - I watched Roger's game last night. I'm in China, CCTV showed the match on video.
It's not as bad as I supposed to be...Roger did fight a lot, he did make some great shots. But obviously he's not playing a solid match. He's been attacking in various ways, forehand and backhand, lines and volley, but it seems that he's not confident in either of them. He's got so many UEs. And not so concentrated from the very beginning. :(
I know David is also a good player and last night David played a solid match comparatively. But I still think that if Roger play like what he did in Shanghai TMC's matches, he could win that match.

Hi Kiro :wavey:

Thanks for the recap. I actually quite like Nalby and believes that he is a great player. I never watched a Nalby Rogi match so I don't know why Rogi can't figure out Nalby. But at that side of the draw, I wish Nalby get to Final :).

I guess sometimes, you just come out to the match and not feeling that it's your day. I don't know. The only match I got to watch of Rogi's in TMC Shanghai is the one he beat Juanqui. And I must say I'm really very very impressed with his talent. I think I've said that before, I think Rogi's more talented than Juanqui in terms of tennis ability. But Juanqui is stronger mentally and now I think he is also very determined :).

Dissident
01-21-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Yeah, I saw that too and almost let him have it, but thought, hmm, I'm still in juvenile mode from that thread :D so I figured I'd let you have the first crack at it :D

I did :angel:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:36 AM
I saw your response, and I did this to you over there as well

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/notworthy.gifhttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/notworthy.gifhttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/notworthy.gif

<high pitched Garth voice>We're not worthy! We're not worthy! We're not worthy!</high picted Garth voice>

LOL.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 03:38 AM
ROTLMAO :p

Thanks. I was afraid I didnt make sense, because I typed all that REALLY fast. I was fuming because of the Roddick thread making me stay awake, and then that striked me. :p

I was trying to keep in mind that Ace Tracker is fine... ;)

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:41 AM
For typing it on the fly, that impresses me even more :)

Ace Tracker is cool, but I have to wonder what's with all the sudden calls to change coaches?! It doesn't make a ton of sense to me that the first thing out of peoples' mouths when a player starts struggling is "Dump the coach! Obviously he's not working!" Err . . . right.

The Roddick thread has lost its steam :( Oh, well, it was fun while it lasted :D

Dissident
01-21-2003, 03:41 AM
And Im gonna take advantage of the fact that people did shut up in that thread and run to bed. I wouldnt resist the temptation... :p

BYE! Now for real! :wavey:

PS - I dont know if Ill get to wake up in time. :( Im having terrible sleep patterns these days. lmao

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:42 AM
LOL, goodnight Dissident :wavey:

I hope you can sleep well :(

lokon
01-21-2003, 03:48 AM
gnight guys, Im going to try and get up in time for juanquis match

If not....VAMOS JUANQUI! :bounce: :bounce:

TAKE IT TO FERREIRA! :D:D

Vera
01-21-2003, 03:51 AM
good nite lokon and Diss and whoever just left :wavey:

I was reading those very interesting stuffs in GM and AO. I'm beginning to like TC, eventhough I got pissed off by her comment of Juanqui after that TMC lost. But she is cracking me up everywhere :D.

Vera
01-21-2003, 03:52 AM
And Seb lost another serve to Ahole :sad:. Seb pls get that serve back.

Allez Seb :bounce::bounce::bounce:

RogiFan
01-21-2003, 03:53 AM
Before I go to bed, a final

VAMOS DON JUANQUI!!! End the day on a high note!!!

I don't know about that Grosgros... he's not challenging AA one iota... :rolleyes: [what did I tell you?] allez, Seb! prove me wrong!! Ne soyez pas idiot!! Mon Dieu!!:rolleyes:

Buenas noches!! Que tengais buenos suenos!! :angel:

TennisHack
01-21-2003, 03:58 AM
I, too, must be heading off, but I will not be back until Juanqui's match is long done, so

VAMOS JUANQUI DAHLING!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

He'll kick some ass, and then he'll have his crack at Agassihole if Sebby doesn't come through (ALLLLLLLEEEEEZ SEBBY!!!!). Besides, I'm fairly sure Layla will be around to cheer for him, and she's his current good luck charm :)

And also, good luck to those of you who are going to get up to watch the match -- hope Juan Carlos doesn't give you heart attacks!

See you in the morning :wavey:

kiro
01-21-2003, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Hi Kiro :wavey:

Thanks for the recap. I actually quite like Nalby and believes that he is a great player. I never watched a Nalby Rogi match so I don't know why Rogi can't figure out Nalby. But at that side of the draw, I wish Nalby get to Final :).

I guess sometimes, you just come out to the match and not feeling that it's your day. I don't know. The only match I got to watch of Rogi's in TMC Shanghai is the one he beat Juanqui. And I must say I'm really very very impressed with his talent. I think I've said that before, I think Rogi's more talented than Juanqui in terms of tennis ability. But Juanqui is stronger mentally and now I think he is also very determined :).

Vera :)

Well, I've watched Nalby-Rogi's match in Basel, and all the matches in TMC Shanghai.

In Basel's match Roger has been up and down. He broke David's game, but after that immediately lost his own. I guess that he's a little bit suprised, he didn't expect such a strong counter-attack from his opponent.

Same thing happened in Shanghai TMC semi against Lleyton. In the final set he broke Lleyton's game successfully. But then he served 2 DFs to let Lleyton break back.

As soon as he's in leading, his next game will always go down.

Sometimes I think that maybe Roger's too humble. He has the technique and power to be in leading role and he should be more confident to play his own game.

Well, about the TMC match between Juanqui and Roger, surely Roger's game is impressing. I think that one and the one against Lleyton are Roger's best games in the TMC.

And on the other hand, I think in that match, the problem's with Juanqui. IMO Juanqui's not solid enough in that match, you can see he's always trying to make change, not so sure of his shots.

But Juanqui found his confidence in the match against AA. After that he's much more solid. I remember in the match against Jiri Novak, he played very very confidently. :)

Vera
01-21-2003, 04:19 AM
True. That TMC match, Juanqui wasn't at his top and Rogi was. It would be so great if they play a match when both are on top of their games. It would be hard to say who would win. I like Juanqui's progress in these few months. I think I have doubt whether he can beat some players in the past. But at this point, I'm pretty confident that he could beat anyone. I mean, his A game is at very top notch. The biggest weakness is still the nerve at the closing. And that will improve too.

I'm also very impressed bcos he really don't like losing to the same player 2 games in a roll. He does well in the revenge department :). And this time around, if he plays Younes in the final, I'm not as worry as before (but still quite worry :o). But me shouldn't get too ahead of myself anyway.

Vera
01-21-2003, 04:36 AM
5-2 in the 3rd and I don't think Seb can pull out another miracle. :sad:

Juanqui must beat that Ahole now.

Chloe le Bopper
01-21-2003, 08:12 AM
TH - I was just kidding ;) I've been in a bitchy bood all day, which is part of why I spent so much time on Naldo lol. That and she amuses me to no end.

Is anybody going to be around for this match in a little while?

*will be here*

vaiva
01-21-2003, 08:24 AM
Becca :wavey:

It seems that Juju's match is gonna be a long one :o But I'm planning to be around.

Will have to watch my mouth, hey?

Layla
01-21-2003, 08:42 AM
Morning everyone! :wavey:

Seb lost! :sad: :sad: :sad: Not a good way to start the day but I'm so busy I don't even have time to dwell on it. But now to an more important match...

So without further ado, here's my cheer for Juanqui! :)

VAMOS JUANQUI!!! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/blob_red.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/blob_red.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/blob_red.gif

http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/1035927406.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/1035927406.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/1035927406.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/1035927406.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/1035927406.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/1035927406.gif

Vera
01-21-2003, 09:00 AM
Hi everyone :wavey:
I'm here to join in the action too. Be doing the Netcam duty.

Becca, pulling a all-nightner, youth! *jealous*:D

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:06 AM
:wavey: Juju is serving for the match, and then FINNALY, Juanqui live on my tv-screen. Jeez, it's been ages since i've seen him live.

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:08 AM
Justine won :D

Layla
01-21-2003, 09:10 AM
Hi Vera, Francine, Zosse and Becca! :wavey:

Vera, so you're doing the netcam pics? Cool.

Finally! Now I can get some breakfast and enjoy the match. I've been working on an empty stomach since I got up. :(

Vera
01-21-2003, 09:14 AM
Enjoy those live tennis on TV, guys. I'm just hoping that ESPN keep their promise of showing the whole Juanqui match tomorrow. Those commentators already start practicing the pronounciation, keep emphasizing the ro at the end. They now called him Ferre"roll". LMAO.

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:15 AM
Eurosport is showing JC in the zoo!

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:17 AM
Ah cute, his dad was there as well

vaiva
01-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Vera, Layla, xxfrancine & spies :wavey:

Ah, Juanqui in the zoo. Cute:D

Finally, the commentators nightmare is about to begin.

Vamos JCF!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

PS. Thank god we got MacMillan(?) doing the coverage. That other guy Rashid Amid (sp?) or something made me sick with his stupid exclamations :mad:

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:21 AM
Dutch commentary is already messing up the a's and o's at the end of their names :rolleyes:

Layla
01-21-2003, 09:22 AM
Yes Zosse, I'm glad we have McMillan too, but that woman (I don't know her name) is even worse because she constantly criticizes Juanqui. :rolleyes:

Still, I love my Eurosport commentators. :)

vaiva
01-21-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by xxfrancine
Dutch commentary is already messing up the a's and o's at the end of their names :rolleyes:

Well, at least our guys already appologised for any possible chaos :D

Layla, you meant Jo Durie? I also get sometimes annoyed by her as she often is way too biased in her commentaries. And apart from the guy I mentioned before, I also love the Eurosport team :)

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:28 AM
Woah, love-game, good start :bounce: :bounce :bounce:

Layla
01-21-2003, 09:32 AM
Ferrero breaks! 2-0 :)

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:32 AM
And he breaks! 2-0 Woohoo!

kiro
01-21-2003, 09:33 AM
yeah, he break Ferreira's serve
2-0
VAMOS Juanqui :)

Francine
01-21-2003, 09:34 AM
He's kinda messing up now

Layla
01-21-2003, 09:35 AM
And that was quite a bad game. :( Juanqui is broken back. 2-1

ferrerogrrl
01-21-2003, 09:36 AM
good luck, Juanqui! gotta go to bed now, bye guys! :wavey:

vaiva
01-21-2003, 09:41 AM
Bye FG :wavey:

It's just a start. He'll be fine :D

Vamos Juanqui!!

Layla
01-21-2003, 09:46 AM
Bye Maly! :wavey:

I had a phone call but I see it's still going with serve.

Layla
01-21-2003, 09:48 AM
An excellent service game and he holds to love. :D

4-3

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:02 AM
Juanqui leads 6-5 :) Eurosport is losing the picture.

Hey did you see Robredo and Portas in the audience? Some Spanish support. ;)

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:04 AM
oooh tiebreak, I don't like tiebreaks

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:04 AM
And we have a tie-break on our hands.

Am I alone out here?

VAMOS JUNAQUI!

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:05 AM
I don't like tie-breaks either and Juanqui is already a mini-break down. :(

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:06 AM
Vamos Juanqui!!

Take this set :bounce:

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:07 AM
Don't you think Juanqui is a little too tentative today?

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:08 AM
Still here. Vamos, get the break back :bounce:

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:09 AM
Shit shit shit shit he's messing up, 2-5

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:11 AM
ok 4-5 now, Come on!

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:12 AM
DAMN :mad: Now he has to extend himself to a long match :sad:

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:12 AM
Damn :mad:

Now regroup Juanqui. It's still one set.

Fight, man!!!

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:12 AM
Damn, he lost the 1st set

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by zosse
Don't you think Juanqui is a little too tentative today?

I do. He needs to relax and find his game because this is not the Ferrero that defeated Ancic.

Damn it, he lost the first set! :mad: He really needs to pick it up! Come on Juanqui, please don't do this to me. I'm overworked, underslept and emotionally very fragile. :(

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:15 AM
Please hold this time and conolidate the break.

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:16 AM
Netcam froze, no stat :(

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:16 AM
Ok, I just put the Dutch commentary on mute, there saying that JC doesn't have the character and fighers-spirit to win a GS. :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

But he broke, please hold now!

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:17 AM
I got the stats Vera. :)

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by xxfrancine
Ok, I just put the Dutch commentary on mute, there saying that JC doesn't have the character and fighers-spirit to win a GS. :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

But he broke, please hold now!

They deserve to be on mute for that. :fiery:

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:19 AM
I lost my feed. The screen is just plain black :fiery:

Why this never happens when Williamses play?

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:21 AM
Yeah, an ace to seal the 2-0!

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:21 AM
I got it now too. Thx Layla.

Dutch tv :rolleyes:

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by zosse
I lost my feed. The screen is just plain black :fiery:

Why this never happens when Williamses play?

Mine is working fine at the moment. :confused:

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:22 AM
I think I should sue my cable TV company :mad:

They did the same during Misha's match

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:23 AM
I think he looks very feisty.

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:24 AM
Junaqui has a break point and he produces the two worst returns of his life. :( That is just wretched.

And now Wayne holds.

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:26 AM
hmpf, he could've broken for a 3-0 lead. God, just please win this set. And the next 2 as well.

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:26 AM
What's the take? Do you guys think he isn't at his level yet?

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:27 AM
I mean, so far in this match.

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:28 AM
Definitely not at his level. His serve is the only thing that is working and it's keeping him in the match. His forehand is off again. If he doesn't improve drastically, he's not going to win. :(

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:28 AM
15-40, he's making waaaaaaaay to much UE

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:28 AM
Pls bloody holds :mad:

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:29 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! Damn :mad:

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:29 AM
And he gets broken back. :rolleyes: I'm not enjoying this match at all.

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:31 AM
Pffffffffff again, from 2-0 back on serve :(

Common Juanqui!!!! Step it up!!!!

Vamos !!!!

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:31 AM
damn it, he's not going to win if he keeps playing like this

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:32 AM
And now Wayne is angry because of a bad call and produces 4 smashing serves, blowing Ferrero off the court. :(

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:32 AM
Maybe it's me who brought him bad luck?

He was winning matches when I was not in this thread :(

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:33 AM
:sad:

Woke up, baby!

:bounce: VAMOS

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:36 AM
Fight fight fight, show them what you got :bounce:

vaiva
01-21-2003, 10:38 AM
Phew, was lucky that Weine missed the BP.

Oh no. Another BP

I'm off the board to see if it'll help

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by zosse
Maybe it's me who brought him bad luck?

He was winning matches when I was not in this thread :(

That goes for me as well, Zosse :(

C'mon HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by zosse
Maybe it's me who brought him bad luck?

He was winning matches when I was not in this thread :(

Naah, I don't think so. He just forgot to pack his tennis in his bag. It's still just one set though. He should do a Seb and come out a different man. That was one of the most amazing transformations I've ever seen.

Back to deuce. This is killing me.

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:40 AM
No Zosse, don't go! :(

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:41 AM
He held! :bounce: *phew*

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:42 AM
Oh, praise the Lord almighty, he made to 3-3

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:44 AM
Please, Juanqui, play better and win this one, please.

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:47 AM
Juanqui holds again. :) Thank goodness for his serve. ;)

4-4

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:47 AM
good game, c'mon, let's break him now

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:52 AM
Break point for Juanqui, please, please, please.

Noooooo, the return just missed the line. :(

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:55 AM
Another break point for Juanqui. :)

And he gets the break with a phenomenal pass! :bounce:

He's playing better now. :)

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:55 AM
OMG, beautiful passing and now he's serving fot the 2nd! C'mon Juanqui!!!!!!!

Vera
01-21-2003, 10:55 AM
Yes! :bounce:

Now, for heaven sake, you must hold to take the 2nd.

Francine
01-21-2003, 10:57 AM
Oh god, DF, don't do this now

Layla
01-21-2003, 10:58 AM
2 set points! :)

VAMOS!

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:00 AM
He netted the first one. :(

And Wayne steals the second one. :(:(

Francine
01-21-2003, 11:00 AM
No no no, duece, oooooh pls

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:01 AM
One more set point! Please!

Nooooo, he played the point so well but Wayne still ends up winning it. :( I'm beginning to shake now.

Francine
01-21-2003, 11:03 AM
Oh no, I want to throw something against the wall now

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:03 AM
And a horrible, horrible miss hands Wayne the break back. :sad: The commentator said this was a sickening blow in the stomach for Juan Carlos. Well, that's exactly how I feel. I don't think I can watch this anymore. :sad:

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:05 AM
C'mon :sad: I'm crying already. Don't do this to me, please.

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:05 AM
I've never seen him hit so many ugly mishits. :(

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:07 AM
OMG :sad: :sad:

Francine
01-21-2003, 11:08 AM
Damn it 6-5, Ok, I've lost my faith now. If he loses this set I'm going for a walk and I'm not comming back anymore until the match is over

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:08 AM
Wayne leads 6-5. I'm crying too. :sad:

You have to hold Juanqui! Pretty please!

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:09 AM
Dig deep dig deep dig deep....damn, please don't lose this one.

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:11 AM
Juanqui holds to love. :) Well, now he has to play a better tie-break.

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:11 AM
TB. Fight Juanqui.

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:13 AM
Wayne with a mini-break again. :rolleyes:

Francine
01-21-2003, 11:13 AM
Damn it, minibreak, damn it, damn it, damn it! They've both made 84 points now

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:14 AM
Wayne leads 5-1 :sad:

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:15 AM
5-3 :)

Francine
01-21-2003, 11:16 AM
Well, at least the dutch commentary is saying that a 2-0 lead in sets is definitly not a garantee against Ferrero. It's 3-5 , if he scores now he's back.

But he doesn't :(

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:17 AM
6-3 :(

3 set points for Wayne.

Juanqui saves with a brilliant forehand down the line. :)

And saves the other one with a great serve. :)

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:18 AM
...........:sad:

This is a fucking joke.

Francine
01-21-2003, 11:18 AM
Ok, I'm off. I can't believe he lost this FUCKING set, he had 3 setpoints, and he blew them.

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:19 AM
Juanqui loses the 2nd set. :sad::sad::sad:

I wanna curl up in a corner and cry, but I'll stay and support him till the end. I still have faith in him. He seems to be playing a bit better now, although it was horrible how he screwed up when serving for the set. That was heart-breaking. :sad:

Come back please!

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:20 AM
Don't fall apart. Fight back, you've done this before. please...

Doris Loeffel
01-21-2003, 11:20 AM
Hello all
Guess Juanqui needs some more support ;)
As he's the best remaining choice he's got mine now.

Alllleeeezzzzzzzz Juanqui!!!

Get your game together and go for it!!
You still can do it!!

Goooo Juanqui goooooo!!!

Doris Loeffel
01-21-2003, 11:21 AM
Alllleeezzz fight fight fight Juanqui

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:23 AM
This is incredible. Fucking lost the serve. Can you just bring yourself together for fuck sake. :sad:

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:23 AM
Hi Doris! :wavey:

Yes, he needs all the support he can get. ;) Everybody seems to be leaving. :(

Oh no, Juanqui got broken again! :eek::eek:

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:25 AM
Well, at least I'm not nervous anymore. I'm just fucking mad :mad: What the hell is wrong with him? Just don't embarrass yourself any further in the third set.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 11:26 AM
JUANQUI!!!!!!!!!!!

Alright, Im here now. So stop the joke and start the comeback

Dissident
01-21-2003, 11:28 AM
DAMMIT!!

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:28 AM
Hi Dissident! :wavey:

I can't see anything through my tears, which is a good thing because a dreadful mishit gives Wayne another break. :fiery:

This joke is becoming stale. :rolleyes:

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:30 AM
OMG, this is not happening. Hold yourself together and at least win one fucking game. Dammit.

lokon
01-21-2003, 11:31 AM
Oh no, poor Juanqui, what a time for me to start watching the scoreboard :sad:

Doris Loeffel
01-21-2003, 11:31 AM
Geeee Juanqui WAKE UP!!!

Come on don't let it slip away!!
You still can do it!!
Just believe in yourself you've got everything you need to beat Wayne!!

Alllleeeezzzzzzzz fight fight fight!!


Just don't give up!!!
Come on Juanqui go for it!!

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:31 AM
The only question that remains is whether he will get bagelled or not. :rolleyes: I tried, but there's not faith left in me. He didn't come out a different man like Seb.

Dissident
01-21-2003, 11:32 AM
Gee, what is happening? Losing two sets on tiebreaks got to him? :sad:

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:32 AM
I don't usually get mad when he lost. But this is too fucking seriously ridiculous. He's 4th in the world and what a pitiful performance :mad:

Layla
01-21-2003, 11:32 AM
He did win one game. :)

But 4-1 is a frightening number.

Vera
01-21-2003, 11:33 AM
Sorry guys, hi to everyone arriving. :wavey:

I can't control myself, this is very upsetting.

Doris Loeffel
01-21-2003, 11:34 AM
Break him now Juanqui!!
You did it before just do it again!!
Come on you can do it!! Gooo for it!!

Dissident
01-21-2003, 11:35 AM
Ferreira´s games are going TOOOO fast! :eek:
Is he hitting aces all along?