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Layla
09-10-2002, 10:48 AM
:wavey:

Hey, have a good day! :)

At least better than mine. :(

Leo7
09-10-2002, 10:50 AM
why? do you have to work? :(

:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: (kisses to cheer you up)

Good Luck to Layla's Slovene girls!;)

Layla
09-10-2002, 10:51 AM
No, I had a bad day at gotennis. Someone really, really upset me. :sad:

Thanks for the Slovene cheer. :)

Leo7
09-10-2002, 10:52 AM
really! :eek: who? :confused:

well tell me all about it later cuz right now i'm going :wavey:

Layla
09-10-2002, 10:54 AM
:wavey:

Have fun at school, that's what it's there for. ;)

I'll tell you about it later.

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 12:56 PM
:wavey: Morning, everyone!

:kiss: for Leo ;) Have a good day at school. I'm going to be loaded down with work myself. :(

LMAO!! at the new thread name!! It's great!!

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Hehehe, just can't help it. But when I see that "Davis-Cup for woman thread" posted by roddicktennisbabe, this is the first thing that come to mind. What TH said, it's so true. I'm sorry:D

I am so very tempted to go read that thread, but I'm not sure if I have the time to before class. Hmm . . .

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Layla
No, I had a bad day at gotennis. Someone really, really upset me. :sad:

Thanks for the Slovene cheer. :)

Layla :eek: :sad: :fiery: That sucks.

But, go Slovenes!! Perhaps we'll talk about you guys in class today ;)

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Morning all! :wavey:

TOMMY!!! :eek: :sad:

I saw Horna play. He lost to Di Pasquale in the Ljubljana challenger. :D Then he won the Zagreb challenger. But imo he's got nothing on Tommy! What happened??? :confused:

Perhaps it was one of those one-offs after a big tournament. While looking at my team last night for the game, I realized that they all took a week off after the USOpen, but promptly lost in the first or second round in the next tournament they played.

But still, Tommy got spanked. :(

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by roddicktennisbabe
You know what? Tennis is still a little sexist. I mean, both Williams' sisters could totally kick most of the ATP's spinters; Jennifer, Monica, Steffi, Martina (both of them), and Tracy have all these tennis records; and women's tennis is SO stable at the moment and great - but do we see equal opportunity for everyone in tennis? Do we have a Davis Cup for women? Not that I see!!!
It just bugs me... I'm a little feminist and as much as I love watching the ATP (cos guys ROCK), I think women would make Davis Cup so much fun. It just bugs me- what do y'all think?
~Mindy

LMAO!! You have GOT to be kidding me!

::wiping tears away:: Hehehehe, that did make me smile. Thanks, Vera ;)

Layla
09-10-2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


LMAO!! You have GOT to be kidding me!

::wiping tears away:: Hehehehe, that did make me smile. Thanks, Vera ;)

Are you sure you didn't post this under a pseudonim just to reinforce your point. ;) You didn't have to illustrate it you know, I immediately understood what you were talking about. :D

Layla
09-10-2002, 06:29 PM
About that gotennis incident. I guess it wasn't that bad after I calmed down a bit. But I was quietly enjoying my breakfast, reading the new posts on ATPworld and gotennis and I saw this reply to one of my comments and it felt like a punch in the stomach. I was accused of whining, *****ing and moaning and all sorts of other shit. That person completely misunderstood my intent and jumped on me for being high and mighty or something. I suppose it doesn't sound so bad now that I've written it, but I'm not yet used to these ridiculous personal attacks. I didn't appreciate it at all. It almost ruined my day. :(

I think I brought it on myself though. A few days ago I got into this argument and attacked someone who was being really rude and insulting to another poster (but he didn't see it that way so then I was rude :o ). So what goes around comes around. I should stop doing thing like that. It's pointless and I don't want to argue that way.

Btw, my whining was about the American media deliberately ignoring non-American players. It didn't go down very well. :o I was told that if I wanted to read about other players, I should find the respective sites in Europe, because gotennis is an American site. LOL.

ILR
09-10-2002, 06:37 PM
thats bad that.U say that things dont sound as bad when u tell ppl about them and thats true.I know what u mean and hope that ur OK now :)

*special hugs*

Layla
09-10-2002, 06:40 PM
oh thanks for the hugs, that really cheered me up. :)

I'm ok now, it was just a really crappy experience and not something I expected from that board, which I love.

ILR
09-10-2002, 06:45 PM
Oooo good Im glad ur cheered up.I dont like ppl being sad unless they deserve it! ;) and u dont

Layla
09-10-2002, 06:51 PM
Has anyone heard of Martin Strel? He's a Slovene marathon swimmer and he got into the Guiness Book of Records again yesterday for swimming the entire Mississippi River. Man, he is one crazy dude. He does stuff like that all the time. It took him 68 days to swim 3797 km, that's 2360 miles. He braved the alligators, the snakes and terrible storms. He's lucky nothing happened to him, but swimming in that water for over 2 months couldn't have been good for him. :eek:

Still, I have to say, congratulations.

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Are you sure you didn't post this under a pseudonim just to reinforce your point. ;) You didn't have to illustrate it you know, I immediately understood what you were talking about. :D

Err . . . what? :confused:

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Layla
About that gotennis incident. I guess it wasn't that bad after I calmed down a bit. But I was quietly enjoying my breakfast, reading the new posts on ATPworld and gotennis and I saw this reply to one of my comments and it felt like a punch in the stomach. I was accused of whining, *****ing and moaning and all sorts of other shit. That person completely misunderstood my intent and jumped on me for being high and mighty or something. I suppose it doesn't sound so bad now that I've written it, but I'm not yet used to these ridiculous personal attacks. I didn't appreciate it at all. It almost ruined my day. :(

I think I brought it on myself though. A few days ago I got into this argument and attacked someone who was being really rude and insulting to another poster (but he didn't see it that way so then I was rude :o ). So what goes around comes around. I should stop doing thing like that. It's pointless and I don't want to argue that way.

Btw, my whining was about the American media deliberately ignoring non-American players. It didn't go down very well. :o I was told that if I wanted to read about other players, I should find the respective sites in Europe, because gotennis is an American site. LOL.

:rolleyes: I've heard that board was pretty bad about shit like that. There are a lot of message boards out there that are. :mad:

That sucks that someone started picking on you because you had a very valid point. One many people, in many parts of the world, have "whined" about for a long time now.

As for personal attacks, I suppose you do get used to them after awhile. I've found that once you assert yourself and score a victory somewhere, people are less likely to provoke you. I try to stay out of catfights on message boards, unless I'm in a mean-spirited mood, as I was when Fool got angry with me. I was just toying with him because it was waaaaay too easy not to. I realize it's mean, but you can't take *everything* seriously.

But I shouldn't say anything because I've never been there. But I understand the itch for a verbal spar every now and then, until someone takes it too far.

Glad you're feeling better, tho :)

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Has anyone heard of Martin Strel? He's a Slovene marathon swimmer and he got into the Guiness Book of Records again yesterday for swimming the entire Mississippi River. Man, he is one crazy dude. He does stuff like that all the time. It took him 68 days to swim 3797 km, that's 2360 miles. He braved the alligators, the snakes and terrible storms. He's lucky nothing happened to him, but swimming in that water for over 2 months couldn't have been good for him. :eek:

Still, I have to say, congratulations.

Martin Strel, Nerves of Steel. :eek: Wow! Congrats to him, the lil fruitcake ;)

Chloe le Bopper
09-10-2002, 08:15 PM
Is it "bump up Rebecca's lame assed non tennis threads" Day, and nobody told me?

Layla
09-10-2002, 08:17 PM
Hi Rebecca! :wavey:

What are you talking about? :confused:

Chloe le Bopper
09-10-2002, 08:18 PM
Layla - some people are just very very ignorant :( Hopefully it makes you feel just a little bit better to know that you aren't.

Layla
09-10-2002, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Err . . . what? :confused:

I mean did you invent that girl and her funny post to illustrate your point about teenieboppers. Hope this clarifies my lame joke. :o

Layla
09-10-2002, 08:20 PM
What happened Rebecca? Which threads?

Well, I can be pretty ignorant myself sometimes, I'll admit that. :o

Chloe le Bopper
09-10-2002, 08:20 PM
Layla - I went on a rampage in Non Tennis one week and made fun of a lot of things (me included).

In the past day I've seen my Hey Hey Look at me thread (which was making fun of myself, and misinterpreted many times over), and my thread asking about atpworld getting stupider... both bumped up.

The first one was intended to be a crap thread, but lot good that did.

The second thread was me in a bitch and being not nice.

I won't bother to delete it though, because I don't see the point in hiding things that I have said.

Layla
09-10-2002, 08:28 PM
Yeah I remember those threads. Didn't I have a fight in one of them? :o But that was ages ago. I've forgotten all about it. You can't really help it if people take things the wrong way apart from explaining it and hoping they accept your explanation.

I'll go read them now but you don't have to hide anything. We've all had crap days and came across too harsh from time to time. Did you read what happened to me on the gotennis board? I'm starting to think my style of writing might be too harsh or too in yer face and I don't really want to sound like that... well, not most of the time. Sometimes you just have to be I guess. It's good to get things off your chest sometimes. This board is full of posts like that.

Layla
09-10-2002, 08:37 PM
Oh it's just people being bored because the wtaworld is down and reading all the non-tennis threads for fun. Don't take this too hard. The wtaworld is bound to be back soon.

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Layla


I mean did you invent that girl and her funny post to illustrate your point about teenieboppers. Hope this clarifies my lame joke. :o

Oh :o

Talk about feeling ignorant :o Between this and the game, I'm a regular dunce all the damn time.

Becca, don't let it get to you too much :( People suck sometimes. That's why I don't venture into Non Tennis very much.

Layla
09-10-2002, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


:rolleyes: I've heard that board was pretty bad about shit like that. There are a lot of message boards out there that are. :mad:

That sucks that someone started picking on you because you had a very valid point. One many people, in many parts of the world, have "whined" about for a long time now.

As for personal attacks, I suppose you do get used to them after awhile. I've found that once you assert yourself and score a victory somewhere, people are less likely to provoke you. I try to stay out of catfights on message boards, unless I'm in a mean-spirited mood, as I was when Fool got angry with me. I was just toying with him because it was waaaaay too easy not to. I realize it's mean, but you can't take *everything* seriously.

But I shouldn't say anything because I've never been there. But I understand the itch for a verbal spar every now and then, until someone takes it too far.

Glad you're feeling better, tho :)

Yes, the wta section of gotennis can be pretty bad, but not the atp, that's great. Well, I check this person out and he's only posted on atp 4 times, all in the last few days. That's not a judgment but it's pretty obvious that he doesn't know me at all. Maybe that's why he jumped to conclusions.

And I have asserted myself but I don't feel too proud about it. Sometimes I assert myself just a tad too strongly. :o

Anyway, I see you're back! :D

Layla
09-10-2002, 09:18 PM
A little joke for today:

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yes, the wta section of gotennis can be pretty bad, but not the atp, that's great. Well, I check this person out and he's only posted on atp 4 times, all in the last few days. That's not a judgment but it's pretty obvious that he doesn't know me at all. Maybe that's why he jumped to conclusions.

And I have asserted myself but I don't feel too proud about it. Sometimes I assert myself just a tad too strongly. :o

Anyway, I see you're back! :D

What is it with rabid fans and the WTA? :confused::D

And, if he's going to make a hasty judgment about you then you should be able to make one about him. I mean, I made the same judgment about Fool and when we all got together and took him down a few rungs, he quieted down and is flying straight . . . for the moment.

:( How could you not feel proud of being assertive? I guess I should go see for myself, eh? I mean, when you're right, you're right . . . but I've been fighting on internet boards for a long time now. ::shrug::

I am back, for the moment. I have to do more work, and then I will be back again tonight. Short intervals of freedom, how I love thee :D

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 09:22 PM
I LOVE the Far Side!! These cartoons are great :) Thanks for posting them :)

Layla
09-10-2002, 09:33 PM
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm still working myself.

I do feel proud of being assertive. Nothing wrong with that. But when someone offends me I tend to get sarcastic and it comes out meaner than I intended. That's what I meant by being too harsh. It only spews more arguments.

Hehe, flying straight... I hope so. ;)

I don't understand why some wta fans are so fanatical either. No sense of humor whatsoever. Makes it even harder to be sarcastic.

Oh and I'm glad you love the far side cartoons. :D I was beginning to think no one was laughing. :o

Layla
09-10-2002, 10:51 PM
Yippie! Tina Pisnik won her first round match against Suarez 6-2 6-2. :bounce: But oh my, she's playing Seles in the next round. :eek:

An Katarina Srebotnik lost in the second round to Schnyder, so my little Slovene cheering thread is all but over. :(

Oh well, I better go to bed. http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pmoonsleep.gif

Good night everyone! :wavey: Sleep well. :)

Leo7
09-11-2002, 12:09 AM
:wavey: Layla! goodnight sweetheart!:kiss:

Leo7
09-11-2002, 12:17 AM
Pisnink! :bounce:

sorry Layla, but i'll have to be cheering for Monica in the next round!;)

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm still working myself.

Work sucks :( I'm finished for the night . . . but no one's around :(


I do feel proud of being assertive. Nothing wrong with that. But when someone offends me I tend to get sarcastic and it comes out meaner than I intended. That's what I meant by being too harsh. It only spews more arguments.

There is that, but there is also the fact that you can edit what you say before you post it. It's rather difficult to edit something you've said as opposed to written. So I've learned to choose my words carefully and always use humor when possible. Sarcasm is wonderful, but it has to be really overdone for someone to catch the meaning sometimes. I know, I've gotten myself into many a fight for that very reason :o


I don't understand why some wta fans are so fanatical either. No sense of humor whatsoever. Makes it even harder to be sarcastic.

;) Exactly.


Oh and I'm glad you love the far side cartoons. :D I was beginning to think no one was laughing. :o

I used to steal them from one of my teachers in high school :o:o;) But they are great. The American version of Brit humor. Where are you getting the cartoons you post? I'm suddenly in the mood for some quiet sarcasm :D

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Yippie! Tina Pisnik won her first round match against Suarez 6-2 6-2. :bounce: But oh my, she's playing Seles in the next round. :eek:

An Katarina Srebotnik lost in the second round to Schnyder, so my little Slovene cheering thread is all but over. :(



LET'S GO, PISNIK! My tennis-watching buddy loves Monica--she is his absolute favorite player ever, so of course I root for her opponent ;)

DON'T LET THE SLOVENE PRIDE DIE! :)

Leo7
09-11-2002, 02:12 AM
:wavey: Hackie!

:kiss:

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:15 AM
:wavey: Hey, Leo

Trying to get me in your harem, are you? ;)

Vera
09-11-2002, 02:36 AM
Hi, my fellow posters, may I retreat to my most comfortable forum to just sigh *sigh* and vent. I'm sad to once again see yet another article by some more columnist bashing men tennis (at the thread I started "For those who think ATP has a problem". All I can say now is "Sure, bash it when you can". But I'm tired of replying to those negative threads and doubters out there, it's impossible to stop them from bashing but I'll never agree with them. And whatever stage men tennis is at is never gonna stop me from loving the sports.

But I'm also very pissed how much they don't respect other players, saying that men's tennis is populated by journeymen and anonymous South Americans. And the more infuriating, I quoted: "Albert Costa and Juan Carlos Ferrero contested a STULTIFYING all-Spanish French Open final". I just can't hold my anger and tear.

I know that's nothing to proud about for JC in the French final. But please everyone out there, give him a break. He's sad as it is to lose like this. I can see his heart broken into million pieces and the tear in his eyes.

However, if he ever sees this article, I hope that will burn him inside so much that he will be so motivated to prove all doubters wrong by reaching the top in no time.

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:48 AM
:wavey: Vera! Please, feel free to vent.

I saw that second article as well, and I'm at the point where all I can do is :rolleyes: and sigh. Nothing like kicking something when it's down--and the men's tour isn't even "down"! I can't BELIEVE they called Nalbandian a journeyman--he's only been playing on the tour for ONE YEAR!! And as for Hewitt having no rivals in the near future--pffffffffft. Though neither have defeated him yet, he's played some thrillers against Roddick & Blake.

Anyway, little good it does to huff and puff about this stuff, since the only people who listen are the ones who already know. I, too, am livid when I see so-called "sports journalists" putting down players who will be all-time greats at the end of their careers--Juan Carlos included. If he had won RG this year, they'd all be blowing smoke in someone else's faces.

I can but hope that he doesn't read this shit and let it bother him. Let it bother us, the fans :D That's what we're here for, among other things.

But men's tennis is on the upswing. If Sampras and Agassi would get out of the way, it would be a bit more clear to the laymen of the world. That is, if they can get it through their heads that "dominance"="BORING AS FUCK", as evidenced by 3 of 4 ladies singles Grand Slam championship matches.

Vera
09-11-2002, 03:02 AM
Thanks TH! I must vent, cause I'm seriously shaken by this one. I'm still fighting my tear here, that flashbacks from RG. And how JC is so shaken by that. I felt the heartbreak all over again.

Well, I guess it is easy to bash others when you are simply an outsider. Though, I'm actually starting to dislike Lleyton, nonetheless, he might just be honest out there and speaking his mind. But that "Rub it in" is just too much. I'm sure when the Safins and Ferreros finally reaching the top, these naysayers will come out and claim the credits, saying if not because of them bashing these champions years ago, they wouldn't have gotten to the top that, kind of shit. God, I'm so piss!!!!

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 03:06 AM
Don't think about this year's RG, or we'll all start crying! :sad:

I can't stand Lleyton--I've never liked him. He's always been really arrogant, on and off the court. OF COURSE he's going to say he will never have a rival--he thinks he'll be at the top forever, especially when the Geritols retire.

And *of course* these same people will come out and say, "Of course I always knew they'd be the top contenders, the Grand Slam Champions!" I mean, look at Safin. He already is a GS champion and he's being treated like dirt, always made fun of for his mental lapses. :rolleyes:

Go look at the picture thread, at the last picture Mrs. B posted. I melt everytime I see it :) We know Juanqui's a champion already, he's done so much . . . and the world will find out soon enough.

RG '03 has his name written all over it. ;)

Vera
09-11-2002, 03:11 AM
You're sweet:) Thanks for comforting me.

I'm sipping some hot tea and trying to calm myself down. Good idea, I'll just go look at him in the pic thread now. :) And I'm sure he will make me feel a whole lot better.

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 03:13 AM
For Layla--It DOES exist! :eek:

Entry System for Slovenia

281 Tkalec, Marko (25 yrs old)
429 Kracman, Andrej (20 yrs old)
792 Gregorc, Luka (18 yrs old)
822 Zgaga, Matija (19 yrs old)
830 Bozic, Iztok (31 yrs old)
947 Osabnik, Bostjan (20 yrs old)
1338 Smole, Nejc (19 yrs old)
1418 Berendijas, Tomaz (23 yrs old)
1418 Gregorc, Miha (23 yrs old)
1418 Jarc, Rok (???)

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by Vera
You're sweet:) Thanks for comforting me.

I'm sipping some hot tea and trying to calm myself down. Good idea, I'll just go look at him in the pic thread now. :) And I'm sure he will make me feel a whole lot better.

Tea + beautiful piccies of Juanqui = very happy Vera :)

Vera
09-11-2002, 05:54 AM
Finished my visit to the pic thread and feel a whole lot better.:) Printed yet another pic of him wearing a proud smile on his face. I thought I'm just a little silly to get upset about things like that, and what other ppl said.

In fact, there's a bigger problem out there if I must worry about. So hopefully tomorrow is another peaceful day.

Good night!

Chloe le Bopper
09-11-2002, 06:14 AM
Mens tennis doubters I can deal with, but the bashers :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sure there are certain things that would make it a little more exciting (Safin stepping up, Roger stepping up etc) but it is all just a transition.

You can't expect every 20 year old to have the mental stength of Hewitt, and self beleif of Pete Sampras :rolleyes:

As for the writers who complain about Journeymen and South Americans :rolleyes: - you can tell that most of them have likely watched about two tennis matches in their lives, and the other 2 are just plain ignorant.

I mean, just because your country isn't doing as well as say France, Spain, Argentina or wherever, doesn't mean you have to crap on their players :rolleyes: (thats right USA and Britain, I'm talking about you :p).

King Aaron
09-11-2002, 08:49 AM
lol.. that's true Becca!!

Leo7
09-11-2002, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:wavey: Hey, Leo

Trying to get me in your harem, are you? ;)

well if you wanted... :kiss:

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 12:31 PM
LOL at Leo! I think you already have more than you can handle ;)

:wavey: Morning, everyone! It appears we have been taken over by the WTAWorld people. I guess their board is down for good now. I'm wondering if this is a good or bad thing . . . especially since they have made liberal use of GM . . .

Layla
09-11-2002, 12:33 PM
Howdy! :wavey:

How is everyone? I feel great today. It's my semi-day off and I'm going to the movies later. :D I haven't been to the movies since before the USO. In case you don't know yet (but you probably do) I'm a movie addict so that's a long time for me. But I couldn't go with tennis on TV every afternoon. ;)

I'm also happy to report that the person on the gotennis board admited he/she mistook me for somebody else and apologized. It wasn't the warmest of aplogies but I was relieved anyway. :)

On a more somber note, today is also a day of mourning and I shudder when I remeber the day my favorite city in the whole wide world endured such a heavy, heavy blow. :sad: :sad: :sad: That really threw the world out of balance for me. I still can't quite believe it happened.

Layla
09-11-2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
Pisnink! :bounce:

sorry Layla, but i'll have to be cheering for Monica in the next round!;)

That's ok Leo, I'll be rooting for Monica myself. ;) Sorry Tina, but my long-time faves have priority. :o

Lol TH! You like to tease your buddy, don't you. Great, you take the flag then and cheer for my girl. :)

By the way, I made a huge mistake. Maja Matevzic did not in fact lose against Panova in the first. She WON!!!! :bounce: I swear I checked the score 3 times on the official website. :confused: Anyway, she bageled her in the 3rd set. You go girl! :D Now she's facing Torrens Valero.

So in fact all three won their first-round matches. I'm so proud. :D

Layla
09-11-2002, 12:36 PM
Oh hi TH! :wavey:

You're here. I think it's definitely a bad thing. Just when I was about to check out some threads on WTA, like the one about winter sports. :( Not to mention that I'm afraid we will all just be run over now. :( I hope the wtaworld fixes its problems and comes back.

Layla
09-11-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I used to steal them from one of my teachers in high school :o:o;) But they are great. The American version of Brit humor. Where are you getting the cartoons you post? I'm suddenly in the mood for some quiet sarcasm :D

One link I found is www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~hampel/larson.

Here's another joke for all those who have to study ;)

Layla
09-11-2002, 01:23 PM
A. Di Pasquale (FRA) d. (2)M. Kratochvil (SUI) 75 61

Michel :sad:
Have you ever noticed he looks a lot like Christian Bale? Better luck next time, Michel.

But yay Arnaud Di Pasquale!!! He's back in the regular tourneys and winning matches again! :bounce:

I love you Arnaud! :kiss:

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:22 PM
I was just about to come and cry about that myself. :sad::sad::sad:

Michel pulled out of doubles with a back injury, so I'm assuming that was a factor in the match. The first set was so close, and the second was a walk . . . his matches aren't usually like that.

I guess that's what playing 29 tournaments and counting for the year will do to you.

TennisHack http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/mecry.gif

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh hi TH! :wavey:

You're here. I think it's definitely a bad thing. Just when I was about to check out some threads on WTA, like the one about winter sports. :( Not to mention that I'm afraid we will all just be run over now. :( I hope the wtaworld fixes its problems and comes back.

I fear that last part. I guess part of the reason the board went down is because the server was overloaded with people and thier posts. If they all come here, that's just an extra burden on the ATP server and we're all doomed :(

And now I see notices that the WTAWorld board will be down indefinitely. This cannot be good.

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:27 PM
But as I weep for Michel's loss and his injury (moreso the injury, he was finally renamed to the Swiss DC team!), I am heartened by today's Far Side cartoon :)

And I can post a picture of my boy to make myself feel better. This one is from Gstaad.

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:28 PM
Hehehe, doubles with Rogi, also from Gstaad :)

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 02:29 PM
Okay, last one :) If you want to see more, go to my website. He's adorable :)

This one is from that great match against Henman at Wimbly. I have it with me, perhaps I should rewatch it! :D

Layla
09-11-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
For Layla--It DOES exist! :eek:

Entry System for Slovenia

281 Tkalec, Marko (25 yrs old)
429 Kracman, Andrej (20 yrs old)
792 Gregorc, Luka (18 yrs old)
822 Zgaga, Matija (19 yrs old)
830 Bozic, Iztok (31 yrs old)
947 Osabnik, Bostjan (20 yrs old)
1338 Smole, Nejc (19 yrs old)
1418 Berendijas, Tomaz (23 yrs old)
1418 Gregorc, Miha (23 yrs old)
1418 Jarc, Rok (???)

I see you found some male Slovene players. :D My favorite is Bostjan Osabnik but his results are not there yet. Tkalec is also quite good. Well he's obviously the best Slovene player isn't he. But men's tennis is Slovenia is just not at the same level as women's, which is a real shame. Luka Gregorc seems to be doing quite well in the boys division.

Anyway, the Slovene team will be playing in the 3rd round of Davis Cup after defeating Ghana and Ireland, so good luck to them. They're playing against Luxemburg and I think they have a real good chance. We'll see. :)

Layla
09-11-2002, 04:26 PM
TH, thanks for those pics of Michel. He really is gorgeous :drool: So you don't agree that he looks like Christian Bale, or have we talked about this already and I've forgotten? :o I didn't realize he was injured until now. :sad: I hope he gets better soon, so he can play the Davis Cup.

Anyway, I'm off to the movies now. :D I'm going to see Unfaithful. I love Richard Gere :hearts: but not all his movies are exactly brilliant. I remember a hideous movie called Autumn in New York. *shudder* Extremely contrived. Hope this one is better. :)

Layla
09-11-2002, 04:27 PM
Vera, I couldn't agree with you more. All those stupid articles written by half-wits who never even saw a tennis match in their lives are starting to get to me too. But I didn't want to respond to them anymore. I'm too angry. :fiery:

I hope you feel better today. :)

Layla
09-11-2002, 04:29 PM
Leo, I see you disbanded your harem. :eek: Oh well, I'll just have to get me my own harem then. ;)

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 04:29 PM
I was updating the Swedish ESR for the forum and thought, "what the hell".

I'm surprised that there's a lot of young ones out there! It's like a little group that all came through together :) I hope they find some success on the tour . . . somewhere.

It really is disheartening that one sex of tennis is doing great and the other isn't. It should be equal . . . but I don't know how popular tennis is, or if it's viewed as a "girl's sport"? Tennis isn't very popular at all here in the States compared to other sports. That's why there's so little coverage spread out over so many different networks . . . ::sigh::

::looks at the Michel pictures some more::

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Layla
TH, thanks for those pics of Michel. He really is gorgeous :drool: So you don't agree that he looks like Christian Bale, or have we talked about this already and I've forgotten? :o I didn't realize he was injured until now. :sad: I hope he gets better soon, so he can play the Davis Cup.

No, we never had this discussion. :D I'm not sure about the Christian Bale reference, especially now--his hair is shorter again :rolleyes: I like him with longish hair, as in these piccies. Perhaps the bone structure of his face . . . his build is better than Christian's.

Of course, I haven't seen a recent picture of Christian Bale, so I could be totally wrong.

But Michel is quite lovely in his own right :hearts:


Anyway, I'm off to the movies now. :D I'm going to see Unfaithful. I love Richard Gere :hearts: but not all his movies are exactly brilliant. I remember a hideous movie called Autumn in New York. *shudder* Extremely contrived. Hope this one is better. :)

Have fun! I've heard this is an extremely well-acted film. I'm going to . . . class, LOL.

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Leo, I see you disbanded your harem. :eek: Oh well, I'll just have to get me my own harem then. ;)

LMAO!! I suppose ILR is his steady girlfriend now? ;)

I want to know who you're going to pick for your harem. I mean, you *are* married! :eek::o

Vera
09-11-2002, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Vera, I couldn't agree with you more. All those stupid articles written by half-wits who never even saw a tennis match in their lives are starting to get to me too. But I didn't want to respond to them anymore. I'm too angry. :fiery:

I hope you feel better today. :)

I felt better. Thx Layla.
It was a bad day and I thought I'll relax a bit by coming here, just to find another stupid article like that. I'm more angry that these writers have no respect for most of the players if they are not their own. Anyhow, it's their lost if ppl don't find tennis interesting anymore. I'll still be enjoying, with you guys.:) I won't be replying to those threads, it's just silly to get upset over this. It's 911 today and anything else seems so insignificant now.

Anyhow, I hope you all have a very nice day. :)

Chloe le Bopper
09-11-2002, 05:37 PM
On a more somber note, today is also a day of mourning and I shudder when I remeber the day my favorite city in the whole wide world endured such a heavy, heavy blow. That really threw the world out of balance for me. I still can't quite believe it happened.

:sad: I can't beleive it was a year ago :( That is one of just acouple things that I will always remember the exact scene of when I found out.

It was about 11am, I was still sleeping in my bed and some girl from across the hall ran over to tell my roomate - it came out as "blah blah, people are attacking buildings, the fell down, blah blah, its on the TV across the hall, blah blah, what the hell come look"

And in my half asleep state it seriously sounded like they were watching a movie. SO I moved out of bed and watched the coverage for a couple hours I guess. After a while it was repetitive, and there weren't any answers so I went to buy food.

All the way up the hallways people were positioned around radios, or TV's - it was real quiet. Even when I went to the caf, which is usually full of people screaming and laughing etc, it was blaring on the TV's and everyone was kind of numb I guess.

The next night they held some candle light vigil thing at my university, so I went over to that on my own. It was just prayer form all different faiths, and song, and some motivational talks. it didn't help, but it was nice to be around so many people who felt the same way at least.

Anyhow, they are doing that again tonight, I imagine I will go to it as well. If not, I saved my candle from that, and maybe I'll light it up and say a little prayer or something.

I'm not religious, but sometimes nothing else makes sense...

Chloe le Bopper
09-11-2002, 05:39 PM
I mean, we aren't American but people here care too :(

That is why back when it all happened when some Americans (esp on certain message boards) made comments about Canadians being all anti American, I was extremely offended :(

Vera
09-11-2002, 06:04 PM
Same here, Rebecca. Just because we don't necessarily agree with the Americans doesn't mean that we are anti them. I'm Canadian but I was educated in the States, so whatever happens there hold dearly to me (not to mention that my sister and cousins are all Americans). So Canadians have a lot of close tie to the Americans. I read some of those in WTA board ppl asking Canadian about their attitude toward Americans. I must say, I share the same attitudes. They are in such a power position to do good to the world and so I hope they try more to understand what the rest of the world thinks and not to misunderstand that we don't love them.

Anyway, last 911, I saw the image on TV and can't stop crying the whole day. I mean, that's the day when humanity became in doubt, how can anyone not feel for the Americans. So I hope this will never happen again.

Nacho
09-11-2002, 07:53 PM
I was coming back from my faculty when it happened (the time was 15:00 here in Spain) When I arrived at home my mom and my sister were watching the TV. My sister said 'hey! Nacho doesn't know anything! Nacho, look at this! When I looked at the TV, the 1st twin tower started to collapse. I didn't even know that a plane had previously crashed into the building.

From that moment onwards I stayed 8 hours in front of the TV. I just couldn't believe what my eyes were seeing.

Layla
09-11-2002, 08:54 PM
I was at home when it happened. We heard the news and turned on CNN. I saw the moment when the first twin collapsed and it was so surreal it felt like I was watching a movie. But I knew I wasn't. It was one of the most horrible moments of my life. So much was destroyed on that tragic day.

I have to admit that some people in Europe were pretty insensitive, even cynical, and I was so horrified I kept fighting with them for a week. But perhaps they were just shielding themselves from pain, shock, fear that they too must have felt. It's easier to dismiss it as just another political event than to face the devastating human tragedy head on.

Layla
09-11-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


No, we never had this discussion. :D I'm not sure about the Christian Bale reference, especially now--his hair is shorter again :rolleyes: I like him with longish hair, as in these piccies. Perhaps the bone structure of his face . . . his build is better than Christian's.

Of course, I haven't seen a recent picture of Christian Bale, so I could be totally wrong.

But Michel is quite lovely in his own right :hearts:


I meant his face not his bod ;) although Christian's build is not bad at all. Btw, that comparison was a compliment, just in case you were wondering. :p I think both of them are hot. :hearts:

ILR
09-11-2002, 08:57 PM
I couldnt believe it either,I was just getting in from school and it was on the TV and it was terrible.I couldnt believe it I was in shock and really upset.But I couldnt understand how anyone could do such a thing.All the people involved have been so brave and my hearts go out to them all and all Americans in general.

speaking of americans lol @ TennisHack I guess ur just gonna ask Leo bout us going steady! ;)

Layla
09-11-2002, 09:03 PM
Tina Pisnik lost to Monica Seles, as expected. *sigh* But go Monica! :D

A real surprise was that Maja Matevzic, the youngest and lowest ranked of the three, defeated Torrens Valero and moved into QF! Yay! Congrats Maja! :D

Tennis is quite popular in Slovenia. There are a lot of clay courts in Ljubljana. But until recently it was pretty much regarded as an elitist sport for snobs. Things have changed though and now that "honor" belongs to golf. But it is true that it is still an expensive sport and hiring a court is definitely not cheap, which is one of the reasons why I don't play myself, much as I would LOOOOOVE to. :(

Layla
09-11-2002, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
speaking of americans lol @ TennisHack I guess ur just gonna ask Leo bout us going steady! ;)

Oh come now ILR. We all know you're going steady. No need to deny it. ;)

ILR
09-11-2002, 09:06 PM
that is also true in England Layla,tennis is considered a Toffs sport so to speak.I suppose Im quite lucky because my gym which I have a membership has 2 courts and to be honest they arent used much.but they are outdoor courts and it does rain a lot! :mad:

Layla
09-11-2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


LMAO!! I suppose ILR is his steady girlfriend now? ;)

I want to know who you're going to pick for your harem. I mean, you *are* married! :eek::o

I don't know. I haven't decided yet. Definitely someone hot. :hearts: And the last time I checked I was getting a divorce, so there's nothing holding me back. ;) :D

ILR
09-11-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Layla


Oh come now ILR. We all know you're going steady. No need to deny it. ;)

me and Leo?:o :o :o :o :o ;) Like I said,Im just gonna wait to see what he says!

Layla
09-11-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
that is also true in England Layla,tennis is considered a Toffs sport so to speak.I suppose Im quite lucky because my gym which I have a membership has 2 courts and to be honest they arent used much.but they are outdoor courts and it does rain a lot! :mad:

So do you have to pay everytime you use the court, or just your membership fee?

Yes, I can see how outdoor courts in England might not be such a great idea. ;)

ILR
09-11-2002, 09:10 PM
No I dont have to pay everytime I use it,that counts in my membership.Yeah,pfffft@ British weather :rolleyes:

Leo7
09-11-2002, 09:11 PM
:kiss: to ILR!

ILR
09-11-2002, 09:14 PM
hey are we goin steady babe? ;) :kiss: back!

Chloe le Bopper
09-11-2002, 09:15 PM
I was in NY a couple weeks ago as some of you might recall me talking about.

I bought a photograph of NY while the tours were still there - it is a view from near the statue of liberty.

The towers were twice as tall as anything around it, I couldn't beleive it when I saw the picture, because everything seemed to tall that is there now...

I bought before and after magnets as well.

Anyhow, I saw ground zero out of a ninth floor window in an office building from about a block away. It really just looks like nothing was ever there, it is hard to beleive those massive buildings once were :sad:

Leo7
09-11-2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi


me and Leo?:o :o :o :o :o ;) Like I said,Im just gonna wait to see what he says!

i say KISS ME PLEASE! :kiss: :D

Leo7
09-11-2002, 09:24 PM
there are alot of services tonight for 9/11 victims, which is nice. it's hard to believe it's already been a year.

ILR
09-11-2002, 09:24 PM
ok lots of goodnight kisses babe! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: nite!

Leo7
09-11-2002, 09:27 PM
goodnight sweetie! have happy dreams! :kiss:

Mrs. B
09-11-2002, 09:36 PM
The first time i went to NY my Mom and i went up to one of those towers and i still have that photo which i'm going to keep forever. I remember getting off from work that day and was sitting in a restaurant with a girlfriend, and the waitress opened the tv and i couldn't believe it, one of the towers was already burning and then the other tower was burning too and they showed footages of that second plain plowing through. I was so shocked, i went home and was glued to the tv for 3 days. I just remembered crying and being depressed for a while. It was an unbelievable day.

Leo7
09-11-2002, 10:13 PM
:wavey:

i have to go and finish my dreaded homeowkr!:(

Leo7
09-11-2002, 10:14 PM
that's supposed to be homework! ;)

Mrs. B
09-11-2002, 10:19 PM
okey, Jersey Boy! if you must...

i'll say goodnight, it's after midnight here...Bye!

Layla
09-11-2002, 10:21 PM
Bye Leo! :wavey:

Good night Mrs. B! :wavey: Sweet dreams. :)

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I meant his face not his bod ;) although Christian's build is not bad at all. Btw, that comparison was a compliment, just in case you were wondering. :p I think both of them are hot. :hearts:

LOL! I know, Christian Bale is good-looking, but I prefer Michel. LMAO at "his face, not his bod" :D

Okay, since we're telling our 9.11 stories, I'll tell mine, too.

I remember that the weather here was the same as it was today--eerie :eek: Anyway, I had English at 8 am so I got up, tired as usual, and stumbled to class. I remember the discussion being really boring, then suddenly around 9 am I shot up, fully alert. Kinda weird. But none of us knew yet.

I walked back to the dorm and got on the net, as per usual :o My roommate rushed in and said, "OH MY GOD!! PLANES HIT THE TOWERS IN NEW YORK AND THE PENTAGON AND THE TOWERS HAVE COLLAPSED AND OH MY GOD!!" Her father worked in the Pentagon, so you can imagine that she was distraught at that point.

We all gathered in the triple across the hall and listened to the radio, which had given direct feed from ABC Radio and it was Peter Jennings from the site. They all left to watch TV--classes were canceled for the day--it was all too surreal. I went back to my room and listened to the radio for the next few hours. I couldn't bear to watch it on TV, and I'm glad I didn't.

We have a large contingent of people from D.C., New York, and Pennsylvania, but luckily in a few days it was all straightened out that no one any of us knew was dead or injured or anything--only one kid in my whole school had to go home, and he left that day.

There were vigils and services and counselors and even a big forum on Islam, Muslims, and why we should all be rational. I have to admit my school did a top notch job with everything, but then we are rather small so it wasn't hard to rally everyone together.

This year there were a few events but I didn't go to any of them. The amount of coverage in the US (all TV network stations have been showing memorial stuff all day) since 9/11 has completely desensitized me, I'm sorry to say. And I was already having a bad enough day, I didn't want to think about even more horror.

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Tennis is quite popular in Slovenia. There are a lot of clay courts in Ljubljana. But until recently it was pretty much regarded as an elitist sport for snobs. Things have changed though and now that "honor" belongs to golf. But it is true that it is still an expensive sport and hiring a court is definitely not cheap, which is one of the reasons why I don't play myself, much as I would LOOOOOVE to. :(

Tennis is just wearing away that image here in the States. It's still expensive to play, and not readily available in all areas (which is why *I* don't play), but gradually enough the elist, boring rich persona is being wiped away :)

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't know. I haven't decided yet. Definitely someone hot. :hearts: And the last time I checked I was getting a divorce, so there's nothing holding me back. ;) :D

Just someone? I'd get a whole harem if I was *available* :angel:

:D

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:44 PM
On 9/11--I logged into the NYTimes site before it went down and the picture was of the second the plane hit the tower. I just remember staring at it as I listened to the radio.

And of course the phone lines almost immediately went down. It was just a crazy fucking day. Hard to believe it's already been a year . . .

Leo7
09-11-2002, 11:44 PM
:wavey:

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:44 PM
So, Leo & ILR, are you two going steady or not? ;)

LOL, I can't believe this is the hot topic in the thread right now! :o

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:45 PM
Layla--I bought a Far Side book tonight. The first gallery :)

And I'm going to check out your link, too.

FAR SIDE ROCKS!! :D

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:46 PM
:wavey: Hey, Leo!

Answer my question!

Leo7
09-11-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
So, Leo & ILR, are you two going steady or not? ;)

LOL, I can't believe this is the hot topic in the thread right now! :o

me and ILR? of course, we ar in LOVE! :hearts: :kiss:

Leo7
09-11-2002, 11:52 PM
hey! i have a Far Side collection of my own!:D

TennisHack
09-11-2002, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
me and ILR? of course, we ar in LOVE! :hearts: :kiss:

I'm jealous :(

Oh, wait, what am I talking about? I have Juanqui :D

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:02 AM
Heehee.
http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~hampel/larson/colour/teapot.jpg

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I'm jealous :(

Oh, wait, what am I talking about? I have Juanqui :D

Pfffffffffft! You all have someone! :fiery: :sad: http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/togo.gif I'm getting out of here.

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Layla--I bought a Far Side book tonight. The first gallery :)

And I'm going to check out your link, too.

FAR SIDE ROCKS!! :D

Wonderful! :bounce:

Enjoy it.

I'm glad you all like Far Side! :D It can sure brighten your day. ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:07 AM
LMAO!!!

http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~hampel/larson/grey/favthing.jpg

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Layla


Pfffffffffft! You all have someone! :fiery: :sad: http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/togo.gif I'm getting out of here.

You have your harem!!

Don't leave :(

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


You have your harem!!

Don't leave :(

*looks around hopefully* Where?

Harem schamrem. I said I was going to have one, so far no success. :fiery: Do you see any cute guys hanging from my arm? I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

Leo7
09-12-2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Layla


Pfffffffffft! You all have someone! :fiery: :sad: http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/togo.gif I'm getting out of here.

don't worry, you still have me!;) :kiss: and of course Alex!

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Leo7


don't worry, you still have me!;) :kiss: and of course Alex!

Pfffffffft! You and ILR are going steady and haven't you heard that Alex took off with Anna K? I'm doomed. :(

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Layla
*looks around hopefully* Where?

Harem schamrem. I said I was going to have one, so far no success. :fiery: Do you see any cute guys hanging from my arm? I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

You get to choose who's in your harem. Christian Bale isn't good enough?

If you want me to stop mentioning the story, I will. I just don't want you to leave all half-cocked. :(

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


You get to choose who's in your harem. Christian Bale isn't good enough?

If you want me to stop mentioning the story, I will. I just don't want you to leave all half-cocked. :(

LOL of course you can mention the story. :D I'll get him back don't you worry. ;)

What does half-cocked mean? :confused:

Leo7
09-12-2002, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Layla


*looks around hopefully* Where?

Harem schamrem. I said I was going to have one, so far no success. :fiery: Do you see any cute guys hanging from my arm? I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

*gras on to Layla's arm* :kiss:

Alex is with Anna?! :eek: you're kidding! wasn't she hitting it off with Nico Lapentti? and what about Enrique?

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:17 AM
All right, guys, let's think of Layla's next conquest on the ATP.

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
*gras on to Layla's arm* :kiss:

Alex is with Anna?! :eek: you're kidding! wasn't she hitting it off with Nico Lapentti? and what about Enrique?

READ THE STORY, LEO!

Ugh! :rolleyes: ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Layla


LOL of course you can mention the story. :D I'll get him back don't you worry. ;)

What does half-cocked mean? :confused:

Get me back?! Oh :eek:

Going off half-cocked means you're going to do something without thinking about it first, or with thinking about it very little.

Sorry, a little regional slang :o

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Leo7


*gras on to Layla's arm* :kiss:

Alex is with Anna?! :eek: you're kidding! wasn't she hitting it off with Nico Lapentti? and what about Enrique?

Anything can happen in our story. ;) Enrique is just for show, to sell the video or something. ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:21 AM
Whoops, I thought you said you were going to get me back for taking him.

Get him back. Okay, that's something I can deal with ;)

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Get me back?! Oh :eek:

Going off half-cocked means you're going to do something without thinking about it first, or with thinking about it very little.

Sorry, a little regional slang :o

LOL, so what exactly was I going to do without thinking? ;)

No silly, I'm not gonna get you back, I'll get Juan Carlos, MY HUSBAND, back!

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LOL, so what exactly was I going to do without thinking? ;)

No silly, I'm not gonna get you back, I'll get Juan Carlos, MY HUSBAND, back!

You were going to huff and puff and leave alone cause you think all of us have someone. Obviously, my relationship is in danger . . . :o

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:25 AM
Guess what I'm doing while talking to you! :D I'm watching the tape of Juan Carlos defeating Zabaleta in Kitzbuhel. :p If I watch for much longer I'll go blind. :eek:

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Guess what I'm doing while talking to you! :D I'm watching the tape of Juan Carlos defeating Zabaleta in Kitzbuhel. :p If I watch for much longer I'll go blind. :eek:

::insanely jealous::

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


You were going to huff and puff and leave alone cause you think all of us have someone. Obviously, my relationship is in danger . . . :o

Huff and puff? I prefer Gryffindor. ;)

Yes, your relationship is in grave danger. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/nogood.gif But not just yet, I will let you be lulled into a false sense of safety.

Leo7
09-12-2002, 12:34 AM
:bounce:

i like to bounce! :D

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:35 AM
So I see! :D

Why don't you try a different colour http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/icon15.gif or a different surfacehttp://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/x82.gif

It's fun! :D

Or you could be from Austria (but I don't recommend it) http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/q01.gif

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Yes, your relationship is in grave danger. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/nogood.gif But not just yet, I will let you be lulled into a false sense of safety.

Ah, but that will not work. Hackie has never felt secure and probably never will.

But I myself am shaking in my shoes :eek:

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:39 AM
LOL I didn't mean to scare you. :o I really should write the next installments when I get a bit of time off. There's so much to explain. :)

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:45 AM
Mmmmmmmm, Juanqui loves sticking out his tongue and licking his lips. Have you noticed that? It's soooooo sexy. Sorry I'm losing my cool here :cool: but I just start to melt when I watch him play. :hearts:

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LOL I didn't mean to scare you. :o I really should write the next installments when I get a bit of time off. There's so much to explain. :)

Ooooooh, I'm looking forward to it!!

The tennis installments will also return, probably after Davis Cup when I've seen C. Dri & PMac again :D

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Mmmmmmmm, Juanqui loves sticking out his tongue and licking his lips. Have you noticed that? It's soooooo sexy. Sorry I'm losing my cool here :cool: but I just start to melt when I watch him play. :hearts:

It's been so long since I've seen him in action . . . since Cincy! :eek:

I've never noticed this particular action coming from Juanqui. Roddick does it all the time :o And I do it, too, when I get nervous. I always have to have some Chapstick ready when I'm watching a nailbiter.

He always gives that leering look before he serves, especially when he's serving into the sun. :hearts:

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Ooooooh, I'm looking forward to it!!

The tennis installments will also return, probably after Davis Cup when I've seen C. Dri & PMac again :D

I hope so! Those were the really funny bits. The story is becoming quite melodramatic now. :eek: ;)

Layla
09-12-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


It's been so long since I've seen him in action . . . since Cincy! :eek:

I've never noticed this particular action coming from Juanqui. Roddick does it all the time :o And I do it, too, when I get nervous. I always have to have some Chapstick ready when I'm watching a nailbiter.

He always gives that leering look before he serves, especially when he's serving into the sun. :hearts:

Leering look :drool: :lick: I love watching certain players serve. Every time Di Pasquale was serving, I could have sworn he looked straight at me. :o Probably not, but it was a really small court and I was his only cheering fan. :o :D

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I hope so! Those were the really funny bits. The story is becoming quite melodramatic now. :eek: ;)

I know, I know :o It's hard to be funny and romantic at the same time. Though I've tried to bring a bit of comic relief from Antonio . . . All the funny stuff happened on the court anyway. I especially liked when Hackie took over the ESPN booth, LOL. :o;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Leering look :drool: :lick: I love watching certain players serve. Every time Di Pasquale was serving, I could have sworn he looked straight at me. :o Probably not, but it was a really small court and I was his only cheering fan. :o :D

Mmmm, I know! I love it when the camera catches his face before he serves, and it looks like he's staring right at you through the TV! He has a powerful stare, LOL :D

DiP was looking at you!! Wow!! :o

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:02 AM
LMAO! That was hilarious. :D The way she tried to make Alex sick wasn't bad either. ;)

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack

DiP was looking at you!! Wow!! :o

That's one of the few advantages of a really small town with a really small court. ;) It was hot and there weren't many people watching anyway. I also sat right across from his changeover seat, which was not far away from me at all, so when he sat down he had to look in my direction. And all the seats around me were empty. Oh the memories. :hearts:

Seriously, I thoroughly enjoyed that challenger. I hung around all day, every day. Not only did I see some great tennis, but everything was so close. They used the tennis courts in a park near my place, so it took me less than 5 minutes to reach it on my bike. And it's just a series of courts surrounded by a wire fence and a few houses. They had to set up a tent to serve as a restaurant lol. So the players would be walking by at all times, right past you.

On the first day, I didn't even know who was in the main draw because it wasn't posted yet. I was just standing around, watching some of the qulies matches, when this guy starts walking towards the grounds, and I was thinking hey, he looks a lot like Juan Balcells. Found out later that he really was playing. :o He's huge. And it's so funny to watch a Spaniard serve and volley. He's serves were incredible.

Ok, enough of reminiscing. ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LMAO! That was hilarious. :D The way she tried to make Alex sick wasn't bad either. ;)

Nirvana has great songs for the occasion :D

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Layla
That's one of the few advantages of a really small town with a really small court. ;) It was hot and there weren't many people watching anyway. I also sat right across from his changeover seat, which was not far away from me at all, so when he sat down he had to look in my direction. And all the seats around me were empty. Oh the memories. :hearts:

Seriously, I thoroughly enjoyed that challenger. I hung around all day, every day. Not only did I see some great tennis, but everything was so close. They used the tennis courts in a park near my place, so it took me less than 5 minutes to reach it on my bike. And it's just a series of courts surrounded by a wire fence and a few houses. They had to set up a tent to serve as a restaurant lol. So the players would be walking by at all times, right past you.

On the first day, I didn't even know who was in the main draw because it wasn't posted yet. I was just standing around, watching some of the qulies matches, when this guy starts walking towards the grounds, and I was thinking hey, he looks a lot like Juan Balcells. Found out later that he really was playing. :o He's huge. And it's so funny to watch a Spaniard serve and volley. He's serves were incredible.

Ok, enough of reminiscing. ;)

Oh, live tennis is SUCH a dream of mine. Juan Balcells, DiP--these are not nobodies just starting out, either! So you got to see relatively big names and great tennis all 5 minutes from your house. I'm insanely jealous.

And, of course, :hearts: at Dip. You two have a connection now, you know.

HEY! Maybe he could play a bigger role in the story than just the Roddick killer!

Hmm . . .

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:40 AM
Now there's an idea. :hearts: *starting to daydream off*

Wait a minute! You're just trying to hook me up with someone new so I would leave Juan Carlos alone! I'm onto your little schemes, hehehe. ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Now there's an idea. :hearts: *starting to daydream off*

Wait a minute! You're just trying to hook me up with someone new so I would leave Juan Carlos alone! I'm onto your little schemes, hehehe. ;)

:angel:

No, seriously, perhaps he could fight for your affection or something. Comedy comes in triangles, doesn't it?

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:45 AM
Wow, in this match I'm watching, there was this amazing point where Juanqui was running to and fro then saved several balls at the net until he finally scored the point, and he just fell on his back and lay there, arms outstreched, panting. Lol. What a sight. Then he got up and everyone cheered and he acknowledged the crowd as if it was the end of the match. Too cute. And in the post-match interview, he kept shrugging his shoulders all the time.

Just thought I should share. :o

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


:angel:

No, seriously, perhaps he could fight for your affection or something. Comedy comes in triangles, doesn't it?

Hmmm, the triangles I experienced weren't too comic, but I'll take your word for it. ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Wow, in this match I'm watching, there was this amazing point where Juanqui was running to and fro then saved several balls at the net until he finally scored the point, and he just fell on his back and lay there, arms outstreched, panting. Lol. What a sight. Then he got up and everyone cheered and he acknowledged the crowd as if it was the end of the match. Too cute. And in the post-match interview, he kept shrugging his shoulders all the time.

Just thought I should share. :o

Oooh! :) So cute. Like Guga at RG? Very cute then!! And so modest :hearts:

Thanks for sharing.

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Hmmm, the triangles I experienced weren't too comic, but I'll take your word for it. ;)

Okay, I've never been in a triangle, much less the center of one. But I was thinking, like, Arnaud could take a liking to you but you only have eyes for Juan Carlos. So you'd get to be the point, and Arnaud could do cute corny things to try to impress you, like trip over himself ;) I mean, there are possibilites for funniness.

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:52 AM
Or whatever, those are just preliminary suggestions. You totally don't even have to use them.

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:58 AM
LOL these suggestions are great! I'm definitely taking a liking to them. :D

I just meant that the actual triangles are not funny at all. Take my word for it. Especially if you don't know you're a part of one. :fiery: You should count your lucky stars you've never been in one. Take my advice and stay as far away as possible.

Well, obviously, having just seen Unfaithful, this is a topic very much on my mind. Didn't mean to bum you out or anything. :o

Leo7
09-12-2002, 02:08 AM
:wavey:

i just wanted to say goonight if you guys were still up!

talk to you darlings tomorrow!;) :kiss:

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 02:10 AM
G'night, Leo!

I'd kiss you, but you have a girlfriend now :o ;)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LOL these suggestions are great! I'm definitely taking a liking to them. :D

I just meant that the actual triangles are not funny at all. Take my word for it. Especially if you don't know you're a part of one. :fiery: You should count your lucky stars you've never been in one. Take my advice and stay as far away as possible.

Well, obviously, having just seen Unfaithful, this is a topic very much on my mind. Didn't mean to bum you out or anything. :o

Well, okay, I have been in sort of a triangle, but it was over a period of about 5 years and relatively harmless. I was not the point, but a far distant crier for the boy's affections. And, yeah, it rather faded away.

But I like to see the light side of things.

Was Unfaithful good? I hope I didn't lie when I said it was well-acted. I hope it didn't bring back bad memories :o And don't worry, you didn't bum me out. :)

Layla
09-12-2002, 02:15 AM
Night night Leo! :wavey: Sweet dreams. :)

Originally posted by TennisHack

I'd kiss you, but you have a girlfriend now :o ;)

Same here. :D ;)

Layla
09-12-2002, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack

Was Unfaithful good? I hope I didn't lie when I said it was well-acted. I hope it didn't bring back bad memories :o And don't worry, you didn't bum me out. :)

Yes, it was very good. A suburban nightmare. You were right, the actors were superb and Olivier is a little hottie (although not really my type :o ). But we've seen those kinds of stories from Adrian Lyne before. It's a study of how being unfaithful can destroy your life and the lives of everyone around you.

It did bring back some bad memories, but it all happened a long time ago. Water under the bridge.

I think I'll dream of Juanqui tonight, now that I feasted my eyes on him. :)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I think I'll dream of Juanqui tonight, now that I feasted my eyes on him. :)

Oh, good. I haven't seen it myself but all of the reviews were good.

And you want weird, I think it's called The Piano Teacher? I don't remember exactly. About a woman and one of the music students who persues her. It's supposed to be good but really horrific at the same time.

Mmmm, I have a picture of Juan Carlos (from the picture thread, naturally) on the wall that I face when I go to sleep and wake up, so I always have good dreams :)

Layla
09-12-2002, 02:33 AM
Clever. :) ;) I should do that myself.

I've heard of The Piano Teacher. Apparently it's really difficult to watch because it is so horrible and emotionally draining. But I will see it one day, when it's on TV, which should be soon.

I have to go to bed now, before the clock strikes 5 am. :eek:

Good night! :wavey: Dream of Juan Carlos! :)

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 02:36 AM
Good night :wavey:

I'll dream of him if you dream of him, LOL ;)

Dissident
09-12-2002, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Layla


That's ok Leo, I'll be rooting for Monica myself. ;) Sorry Tina, but my long-time faves have priority. :o

Lol TH! You like to tease your buddy, don't you. Great, you take the flag then and cheer for my girl. :)

By the way, I made a huge mistake. Maja Matevzic did not in fact lose against Panova in the first. She WON!!!! :bounce: I swear I checked the score 3 times on the official website. :confused: Anyway, she bageled her in the 3rd set. You go girl! :D Now she's facing Torrens Valero.

So in fact all three won their first-round matches. I'm so proud. :D

Ill have to put the brazilian pride away and admit they are very confusing with the scores in the site. :(
The site overall seems nice, but there are some details that suck. Results is certainly one of them.

King Aaron
09-12-2002, 09:25 AM
I've finally decided not to post here. I can't see anything because it takes so long for me to get myself up to date! :(

Layla
09-12-2002, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by m!ssundaztooD
I've finally decided not to post here. I can't see anything because it takes so long for me to get myself up to date! :(

Oh come now. :( It's an on-going conversation. You can jump in at any time. No need to be up to date. ;) I would love to talk to you. :)

Layla
09-12-2002, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by hitman


Ill have to put the brazilian pride away and admit they are very confusing with the scores in the site. :(
The site overall seems nice, but there are some details that suck. Results is certainly one of them.

Oh it's not that bad. It does seem quite a nice site. It's certainly 1000 times better than the Tashkent one, which doesn't have any information, not even draws, results or schedule of play. Or maybe I missed it. :confused:

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 01:04 PM
Morning, all :wavey:

It seems that the WTAers have found a new place to roost? I wasn't shocked when I came in this morning.

Tournament websites usually suck, especially if they aren't originally in English--what I mean is, their English equivalents are horrible. I've learned to navigate through the sites but nothing I've seen is really too special.

Ooh, nothing like almost offending people to start out the day. ;)

Layla
09-12-2002, 01:16 PM
Morning! :wavey:

Yes, apparently the WTAworld is working again. :) I think. I haven't checked yet.

Hey, I usually count my lucky stars if the site even has an English equivalent, or even the Roman alphabet lol. But seriouly, what is the purpose of the Tashkent site?

ILR
09-12-2002, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Leo7


me and ILR? of course, we ar in LOVE! :hearts: :kiss:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :D :D :D :kiss: :kiss: :hearts: :hearts: :drool:

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 07:32 PM
:: peeks in:: Hmm, it's quiet.

Too bad I can't stick around and make noise. More classes call.

Layla
09-12-2002, 07:35 PM
Oh, that's too bad. :( I'll go to bed early tonight because I'm tired. :wavey:

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 07:37 PM
Yeah, Layla, Thursdays are my longest days. I have class until 9 pm :eek:, only then do I get to start my homework.

Sorry I wasn't around today. Believe me when I say I'd much rather have been talking about our boys ;)

Well, in case I don't see you again tonight--:wavey: Goodnight! :)

Layla
09-12-2002, 07:39 PM
OMG, you have classes until 9 pm?!? :eek: How cruel and inhuman. :( Well, we'll talk more tomorrow then.

Good night! :wavey:

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:05 PM
an Article for Layla (have you seen this yet?)

Di Pasquale Continues Comeback in Bucharest
No. 2 seed Michel Kratochvil and No. 3 Felix Mantilla upset at Open Romania

Arnaud Di Pasquale of France continued his comeback on the ATP circuit on Wednesday by defeating No. 2 seed Michel Kratochvil in Bucharest, while No. 3 seed Felix Mantilla also fell in the second round.

Di Pasquale, who missed the first three months of the year recovering from knee surgery, reached his second quarterfinal of the year with a 7-5, 6-1 win over Kratochvil.

The Frenchman has been plagued by injuries the past two years. In 2001, he was bothered by back problems in June and missed the entire grass court season. Then, Di Pasquale underwent arthroscopic left knee surgery in September and missed the remainder of the year.

Di Pasquale, who reached a career high ranking of No. 39 in 2000, plummeted all the way to No. 378 in early 2002. However, Di Pasquale's recent success has pushed him to No. 122 in the world and with one more win this week, Di Pasquale should easily crack the top 100 in next week's rankings.

Kratochvil started experiencing back pain in the second set, which hindered his performance the remainder of the match. He also pulled out of a doubles match he was scheduled to play later Wednesday with Alberto Martin.

Mantilla lost a three-set battle with countryman Galo Blanco, 6-1, 4-6, 6-2. The win by Blanco might have come as a surprise to Mantilla since he had previous defeated the fellow Spaniard in nine of their first 10 meetings.

Fresh off a win at the Kiev Challenger last week, Irakli Labadze kept his winning streak alive by defeating No. 8 seeded Romanian Adrian Voinea. Despite the crowd being in Voinea's favor, Labadze scored the 7-6(1), 6-1 victory to propel the Georgian into the quarterfinals.

What the Players Said:

Di Pasquale: "It's always nice to win and I played solid. He [Kratochvil] missed more shots in the second set. It's the second quarterfinal I reach this year on the ATP circuit, which feels good. I played mostly Challenger after coming back from my injury. My game is getting better and better."

Labadze: "It's always tough to play a local player. But today he [Voinea] didn't play too well. I know he can play much better. I didn't play that well either in the beginning, but I started to find my rhythm in the second set. I'm in good shape, I won a Challenger last week so I feel confident."

THURSDAY PREVIEW
Top seed Andrei Pavel will be looking for another win in front of his countrymen when he takes on Spain's Albert Portas. Pavel hasn't won a title since his victory at the Tennis Masters Canada in Montreal last year and would love to win in his native Romania. However, Portas has won three-of-four meetings with Pavel and this will mark their fifth battle on clay. The two haven't played each other in over two years with their last meetings being a straight sets win for Portas at Roland Garros in 2000.

Sopot winner Jose Acasuso will look to inch closer to his second title of 2002 when he faces Romanian wild card Victor Hanescu. Acasuso defeated veteran Dick Norman in the first round, while Hanescu defeated former Bucharest champion Juan Balcells to reach the round of 16.

Also, veterans Fernando Vicente and Franco Squillari will play for a spot in the quarterfinals on Thursday. Vicente, the No. 4 seed this week, has defeated Squillari all four times they've played in their respective careers, including twice in 2002 (Auckland and Acapulco). Vicente is also looking to win at least one ATP title for the fourth consecutive year, while Squillari is searching for his first title since 2000.

In Thursday's only other match, Irakli Labadze will take on qualifier Juan Giner in familiar territory. These two also met in the second round in Bucharest last year with Labadze rallying to win in three sets.

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:06 PM
i have to admit, i didn't know a darn thing about Di Pasquale before reading this article!:(

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Layla
OMG, you have classes until 9 pm?!? :eek: How cruel and inhuman. :( Well, we'll talk more tomorrow then.

Good night! :wavey:

Well, it's one night a week. Seminars and whatnot are for two or three hours at night, but just once a week. It's not really that bad.

Yes, I plan to be around a lot tomorrow! :)

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:09 PM
:wavey: Hackie!

ILR
09-12-2002, 09:09 PM
The only thing I knew about him was that he beat Rogi in the Sydney Olympics and he got the bronze medal instead.:(

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 09:10 PM
Leo, you bring my pain back :(

I posted that article in the Open Romania forum, and we've all seen it.

I didn't know very much about DiP before Layla told us about her adventures at the challenger. He sounds nice enough . . .

I am still sad that Michel lost :sad::sad::sad:

Layla
09-12-2002, 09:12 PM
Yes, I've read it. But I love reading it again and again and again. :) It makes me happy. :D Thanks for posting it. :)

I'm glad you know more about one of my dear faves now. :) He had a really horrible year. He was all set to return in January, travelled to Australia, but the pain came back and he had to rest for 4 more months. Like the article said, he was down to almost 400, but made a great comeback in Ljubljana, my home town. That's one of the reasons why he is so special to me. That challenger gave him confidence to climb even higher and of course he reached the 4th round in RG, which is quite something! I was so proud of him. :hearts:

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:14 PM
sorry Hackie, i didn't mean to bring you pain!:( :sad:

don't worry bout Michel, he has plenty of winning years ahead of him!:)

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yes, I've read it. But I love reading it again and again and again. :) It makes me happy. :D Thanks for posting it. :)

I'm glad you know more about one of my dear faves now. :) He had a really horrible year. He was all set to return in January, travelled to Australia, but the pain came back and he had to rest for 4 more months. Like the article said, he was down to almost 400, but made a great comeback in Ljubljana, my home town. That's one of the reasons why he is so special to me. That challenger gave him confidence to climb even higher and of course he reached the 4th round in RG, which is quite something! I was so proud of him. :hearts:

oh, that's right! Di Pasqual made the 4th round at RG as a Wild Card! how could i forget? he lost to Safin, no?

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
sorry Hackie, i didn't mean to bring you pain!:( :sad:

don't worry bout Michel, he has plenty of winning years ahead of him!:)

That's okay, Leo. I know, but it still stings. He had such a chance!! ::sigh::

I think Michel is going to be somewhat of a late bloomer. He's already 23, but has only been playing on the main tour for about two years. So I hope you're right, and he has many winning years ahead of him!!

Layla
09-12-2002, 09:19 PM
Yes he did lose to Safin. And it was a great match too. I saw it. Both were making unbelievable shots. DiP took the first set off Marat and that was on Marat's good day. :D

TennisHack
09-12-2002, 09:19 PM
His RG run was great :)

Well, I'm off again! I'll see some of you tonight, others tomorrow.

Bye for now! :wavey:

ILR
09-12-2002, 09:19 PM
bye! :wavey:

Layla
09-12-2002, 09:21 PM
Bye! :wavey: It was good to see you again, if somewhat unexpected. ;)

OMG, what am I still doing up! I said I would go to bed early. :rolleyes:

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:21 PM
:wavey: have a good class!;)

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:23 PM
tomorrow is Friday, thank god! only 7 days of 11th grade and my brain is already fried!:( i have a Civilization paper do tomorrow...i better finish it...but i'll stay here for a bit! :)

ILR
09-12-2002, 09:26 PM
aw poor u did u know I got a grade A in my english oral assessment?lol.Id best be off or else Ill never get up in the morning!bye! :wavey:

Layla
09-12-2002, 09:28 PM
Good night ILR! :wavey:

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:30 PM
:wavey: ILR!

Congrats on your A! i got a sweet A on my Chemistry lab today! but i didn't do so well on my French pop quiz!:(

Francais :fiery:

Layla
09-12-2002, 09:31 PM
Well, I best be going too. Good night! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/ZZZsleep.gif

Mrs. B
09-12-2002, 09:33 PM
G'night, folks! Sweet dreams....

Leo7
09-12-2002, 09:36 PM
Good night Layla!

and au revoir (i should really practice my francais) to everyone else! i'm off to do my History paper!

:wavey:

Mrs. B
09-12-2002, 09:42 PM
Bon nuit, Gute nacht...

have fun with ur papers, Leo!

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Bye! :wavey: It was good to see you again, if somewhat unexpected. ;)

OMG, what am I still doing up! I said I would go to bed early. :rolleyes:

LOL, I'm always a treat :D

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
:wavey: have a good class!;)

Thankies, I did. It's music, always relaxing even though I forget beforehand ;) We're playing some really cool stuff this year.

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
tomorrow is Friday, thank god! only 7 days of 11th grade and my brain is already fried!:( i have a Civilization paper do tomorrow...i better finish it...but i'll stay here for a bit! :)

I thought you were a senior! Hmm . . .

Good luck, hope you do well on the paper. And French really sounds cool, at least to me, someone who doesn't know a bit about the Romance languages. I took Spanish in high school but I sucked at it. I love Juan Carlos and I'm sure Spain is a nice place, but I hate their language. :mad:

Leo7
09-13-2002, 01:46 AM
:wavey:

glad you had fun at class!

nope, i'm still a junior in high school!

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 12:21 PM
Morning :wavey:

Wow, I think this is the quietest this thread has ever been! :eek: Don't tell me we've run out of interesting conversation topics ;)

Hope everyone's doing well--it is Friday, after all. Although as we inch closer to the weekend, I start wondering where the new installments of the story are, LOL. Even when it's my turn to write!! :o

Layla
09-13-2002, 03:55 PM
Hi everybody! :wavey:

It's only been quiet because I haven't been here all day. ;) And I'm going out soon. I have to decide which fitness club to join so I'm going to check one out tonight.

The installments :o have not been written yet due to heavy-duty labor I had to endure this week. ;) I'm still very busy but I promise I'll try to write them.

Your music class sounds like a lot of fun. By playing do you mean listening or are you in a school band? What instruments do you play? I don't play any unfortunately, which is strange for a music buff like me. :( But I borrowed a tenor saxophone from a friend once and practiced for a while. I didn't completely suck at it, although I probably should've started with the alto sax.

And I have to disagree. Spanish is such a beautiful and sexy language. :) It's my favorite right after English. And so much easier to learn than French. ;)

Layla
09-13-2002, 03:57 PM
I did some research to support my claim. ;) This is Michel (well you know all about how he looks like, but here he is just for the sake of comparison)

Layla
09-13-2002, 03:58 PM
One more (you can post better ones later ;) )

Layla
09-13-2002, 03:59 PM
And this is Christian Bale. Sadly, I couldn't find the perfect pic I was looking for to illustrate my point, so these will have to do.

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:00 PM
Lovely smile

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:00 PM
Last one

ILR
09-13-2002, 04:01 PM
Hi :wavey:

it wont be quiet anymore! :) Wow I would love to speak Spanish and me and mum said we would learn it together but that hasnt happened yet.I would also like to learn Italian and Portuguese!lol I love languages!They might come in useful 2.......;) I heard Portuguese is hard to learn tho.

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:02 PM
And if you are at all interested in seeing what his body looks like ;) check out this link http://members.fortunecity.com/christianbale/american+psycho.jpg.jpg

I didn't want to post it here cause I know you are not partial to topless pics. ;)

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:08 PM
Hi ILR! :wavey:

Yes, I believe that Portuguese is very hard indeed. We are also not as familiar with it as with other languages that we hear quite often. But it is a lovely language. I love a group called Madredeus and I listen to it quite often, but the meaning of the words eludes me. :o Italian is beautiful, but too fast for me. I don't like to talk that fast. :o

Useful ILR? ;)

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:10 PM
DiP lost :( That sucks.

Even worse, Jenya has fractured his finger! :eek: This is very worrisome, because of Davis Cup. I hope it's not too bad . . . He's in the final at Tashkent and will face Vladimir Voltchkov. Mmm, Slavic boys :drool:

ILR
09-13-2002, 04:12 PM
Yeah its not something that I hear very often,Portuguese,but I think I am going there next year so I could well hear a lot!Yeah Italians talk fast but I think that most foreign languages are fast except English!Yeah it could come in useful for travelling and holidays and........things.;) :D

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:13 PM
OMG!!!! I haven't checked out the scores yet but that's awful! :sad: :sad: :sad: Oh DiP! :sad:

Did Kafelnikov retire? That's horrible too. I wanted him to win this tournament (well, I guess I'm not the only one). Don't tell me Srichaphan will win the damn thing. :rolleyes: :mad:

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:14 PM
Oh wait, did you say Kafelnikov and Voltchkov are in the final? Yippie!!! :bounce:

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Layla
The installments :o have not been written yet due to heavy-duty labor I had to endure this week. ;) I'm still very busy but I promise I'll try to write them.

Don't worry about it, I'm just insanely curious how you're going to get out of the jam I put you in. :D Work is more important, and goodness knows I have plenty of it myself. :o

Your music class sounds like a lot of fun. By playing do you mean listening or are you in a school band? What instruments do you play? I don't play any unfortunately, which is strange for a music buff like me. :( But I borrowed a tenor saxophone from a friend once and practiced for a while. I didn't completely suck at it, although I probably should've started with the alto sax.

I play in an ensemble, yes. And honestly, you can start on any instrument, though I wouldn't advise bari sax or any sort of big bass instrument ;) Tenor sax and alto sax are actually in different keys--clarinet and tenor sax are remarkably similar in fingerings and I think they are in the same key. So learning on alto wouldn't have done much good if you really wanted to play tenor!!


And I have to disagree. Spanish is such a beautiful and sexy language. :) It's my favorite right after English. And so much easier to learn than French. ;)

I suppose my aversion to Spanish is really the fact that I was forced to take it because it was the only language offered, and it was a requirement. I would much rather learn Italian or French, which is funny because all of those languages are quite closely related!

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:20 PM
Okay, okay, I give up! Michel & Christian look alike. I just much prefer Michel :D

I can't believe how well Michel speaks English (while we're on the topic of languages). I listened to an interview from Wimbly and it was flawless, absolutely perfect! Amazing considering he's of Czech descent and has lived in Switzerland all of his life.

Tennis players are so smart :) Just makes me adore them even more :)

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Hi ILR! :wavey:

Yes, I believe that Portuguese is very hard indeed. We are also not as familiar with it as with other languages that we hear quite often. But it is a lovely language. I love a group called Madredeus and I listen to it quite often, but the meaning of the words eludes me. :o Italian is beautiful, but too fast for me. I don't like to talk that fast. :o

Useful ILR? ;)

I, too, have heard that Portuguese is difficult to learn. Isn't it sort of like a mix of French and Spanish? LOL, I could be talking out of my ass for all I know, and hitman will come and slap me :o

You want fast--how about Russian?! Those people talk SO fast.

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Did Kafelnikov retire? That's horrible too. I wanted him to win this tournament (well, I guess I'm not the only one). Don't tell me Srichaphan will win the damn thing. :rolleyes: :mad:

Even with a broken finger, Kafel wiped the court with Srichaphan--6-2, 6-4. :eek: It was truly amazing!!

But I still think the DC tie is more important than this title. Though both would be nice :) I think if he finds out he can only play one or the other, he'll ditch the final.

Which means Vladimir will win by default. Nothing wrong with that :) I still remember watching him at Wimbly when he made that run to the semis. He has a nice game.

ILR
09-13-2002, 04:24 PM
really?Ive never heard Russians speak.Germans speak really fast too!

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
really?Ive never heard Russians speak.Germans speak really fast too!

Really. I have the equivalent of 2 years of Russian (and going), so I can understand the language and parse it correctly. But whenever I try to watch Russian news or some of the things we watch in class--I can't think that fast! Not even in English, LOL :)

Layla
09-13-2002, 04:29 PM
Sorry I have to run now! I'll be back soon! :wavey:

ILR
09-13-2002, 04:30 PM
Yeah I have to go for a few hours.See u guys on here later! :wavey: Bye Layla!

ILR
09-13-2002, 04:31 PM
lol I dont really think fast either.In fact I dont really think much.I just daydream........:p

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 04:33 PM
What a coincidence, I too must leave.

LOL at us! ;)

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:00 PM
Well, I'm back but nobody's here. I checked out one fitness club which was ok but nothing special. Tomorrow I'll check out another one. Hopefully, it will take my breath away lol. :)

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

I play in an ensemble, yes. And honestly, you can start on any instrument, though I wouldn't advise bari sax or any sort of big bass instrument ;) Tenor sax and alto sax are actually in different keys--clarinet and tenor sax are remarkably similar in fingerings and I think they are in the same key. So learning on alto wouldn't have done much good if you really wanted to play tenor!!


Well, it's pretty hard to hit the lowest notes on the tenor sax. It takes a lot out of you, so what I meant was maybe I should have started with the alto because it doesn't require as much breath, just until I got used to it and increased my lung capacity.

And I didn't mention that I was completely self-taught, so it wasn't anything like serious practice. I was just fooling around while I had. I discovered everything on my own just by trying. I didn't even have a manual or a book lol. It was so much fun. It's always been a dream of mine to play a saxophone for some reason and yes tenor is my first choice. One day I will buy my own, but I'll have to move too as I live in an appartment building and apparently people could hear me on the parking lot. :o That must have been horrible for my neighbours. :p

Vera
09-13-2002, 07:13 PM
Hi Layla!

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


You want fast--how about Russian?! Those people talk SO fast.

Funny I never thought of Russian as fast. Maybe it's because it's a Slavic language like mine and the two are really quite similar.

And I don't think German is very fast either. Germans probably have the clearest pronunciation of all languages I'm familiar with so it's not that difficult to understand. Also, German words are so long and complex they can't really be pronounced fast lol.

I have a course of Spanish on CD-rom and I intend to study it dillignetly during the cold autumn/winter months. That's a promise to myself. ;)

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

Tennis players are so smart :) Just makes me adore them even more :)

Yes, I admit. I prefer my players to be intelligent too. :o That's one thing you can say for Henman (since I know none of you likes him I won't bother you with the others ;) )

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Even with a broken finger, Kafel wiped the court with Srichaphan--6-2, 6-4. :eek: It was truly amazing!!

But I still think the DC tie is more important than this title. Though both would be nice :) I think if he finds out he can only play one or the other, he'll ditch the final.

Which means Vladimir will win by default. Nothing wrong with that :) I still remember watching him at Wimbly when he made that run to the semis. He has a nice game.

Wow. Good for Zhenya! Not that he broke his finger of course :( but that he defeated Paradorn so convincingly :)

I really hope he will be alright for Davis Cup. I'll be rooting for Russia and France of course. :)

I don't know anything about Vladimir :o except that I like his name lol. :) I'll be on the lookout for him.

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:33 PM
Oh hi Vera! :wavey:

I was so busy answering posts that I didn't even see you. :o

How are you on this Friday the 13th hehehe? ;)

Vera
09-13-2002, 07:39 PM
Not too bad. I was just sitting at home waiting for the cable guy to come in and fix our connection, while watching Amelie on Video.

Layla
09-13-2002, 07:44 PM
Awwww, you're watching Amelie. I love that movie. It's so upbeat, romantic and inspirational. :) Oh to be in Paris! The music is great too.

Vera
09-13-2002, 07:49 PM
Ya? I'm only on for just 'bout 20 mins, but I already like it. Just stop because the cable guy is here so I'll wait til he get done then go back to watch it.

I've heard so much about it though. In fact, I love French movies. When I was in school, I took film classes of the French Wave in the 50s/60s, ever since, I'm in love with French movie.

Layla
09-13-2002, 08:17 PM
Oh that sounds great. I love film classes. Wish they were more readily available. I took one on Wim Wenders, my favorite director and it was taught by the best professor I ever met (that was at the university). He could make you fall in love with any movie he talked about, because he was so passionate about them and he was a romantic at heart. He opened my eyes to a lot of aspects I would never have noticed. His favorite philosopher was Delueze and he based his analysis of Wenders' films on the works of that Frenchman. Astonishing.

I don't know much about the French Wave. When films like that were played on our TV stations, I was too young to be interested and now we are flooded with either American movies (for the record, I have nothing against them at all) or really difficult European ones.

I must admit that a lot of the recent European cinematography is just too depressing or too disgusting for me. I especially detest certain awful sex scenes that make my stomach turn. There's so much negativity in European cinematography as if they were purposely trying to counter the American feel-good movies. And that doesn't make sense. The European directors should not be ashamed to admit if their vision of the world is slightly brighter than that of the average director and to celebrate life like in Amelie. And sometimes I have a feeling that there's an enormous pressure to be negative or they wouldn't be taken seriously by the very demanding European critics and movie buffs.

Vera
09-13-2002, 09:02 PM
I haven't really watch much European movie lately, because, it really isn't the same as the older one that I loved. But there's some that I loved. The Big Blue by Luc Besson, he's my recent favorite. I watched The Big Blue again and again and cry every time (man, I'm a crying baby). And The professional. And also another called Diva, which was about more than 10 years old.

The French New Wave is old time, 50s and 60s. Directors like Truffaut, Godard, Chabrol and Marker. Truffant made some very famous one like 400 Blows, Jill and Jack. Chris Market is brilliant, I loved him, his movie called Sans Soleil, it's a documentary but very philosophical. And my all time favorite La Jetee, a very short movie, about 40 mins. The whole thing is composed of still pictures, so it's not really motion picture in that sense. But the idea is great. The Bruce Willis movie "12 monkeys" was supposedly inspired by La Jetee. But IMO, nothing like it. La Jetee is far superior.

Okay, you may not be interested in those as I'm almost too in-love with that period. Ya, very different from Hollywood of course. But recently, there's great movie like Momento. I can't tell you how much I like it. Even more that my other favorite "The Matrix". But ain't too Hollywood either, these Indy are making big time splash.

Vera
09-13-2002, 09:08 PM
Oops! not Jill and Jack (which is a tv show):o
I mean Jules et Jim

Vera
09-13-2002, 09:10 PM
I've only watched one Wim Wenders film, Paris, Texas.

Layla
09-13-2002, 09:32 PM
You simply have to see Wings of Desire! It's my all time favorite movie. I usually have problems compiling top 5 lists but not in this case. It's been my favorite for over 10 years now. :) That movie is something else.

Memento was indeed a superb film. As for The Matrix, it simply blew me away. It's definitely in my top 10 list. I remember getting so energized after every viewing. Physically energized.

Maybe my favorite "genre" are American independent movies. None of the European morbidity but all of its better qualities, such as unique vision, irony, unpredictability, philosophical depth. Have you heard of Hal Hartley? He's my favorite American director. His early film called Trust is in my top 10 as well. Unfortunately his creativity seems to have withered lately. The last indie movie I saw was Being John Malkovich which also made my head spin.

Another movie I loved was Happy Texas, which doesn't strictly have the feel of an indy movie but it was so hilarious. And it starred Jeremy Northam and that always helps. ;) I think it won an award at Sundance but I'm not sure.

Vera
09-13-2002, 09:46 PM
Wings of Desire. I didn't see it. But I do like the remake so I think the original most be good. I'll check it out. I was quite bored these days, not many good new release and I've seen most of what I want to see on video. So constantly trying to find out if there's any movie interesting to see, same as books.

Being John Malkovich makes me spin too. I'm quite used to bizarre movies though. Well, David Lynch used to be one of my fave, and that said it all. The last I saw of his is Lost Highway and can't get myself to watch any more of his new one, though that Mulholland Drive was voted the best movie of the year by some.

Nowadays, not really too many films that excited me too much, besides the briliant ones like Momento or Matrix. I thought "Beautiful Mind" is good entirely deal to the performance of Russell Crowe.

Layla
09-13-2002, 10:12 PM
Oh I used to love David Lynch. I was quite a Twin Peaks fanatic at one point. When he killed everyone in the final episode and turned Agent Cooper into Bob, he completely destroyed my world. I felt lost and confused for days lol :o But now I don't consider him to be the director he once was. I think it started with Twin Peaks the movie, which was just horrible. Lost Highway had some of his old touch, but I think all that hype has gotten to his head and now he's purposely fooling the audience with whatever crap he can think of. I haven't seen Mulholland Drive yet, but I read a terrible review by someone I have great respect for and he said it's just pretentious and empty. I bet he's out there having a good (and mean) laugh over all the viewers discussing what it all means. If you don't understand any of it, it must be good. :rolleyes: I really think it's an inside joke that's gotten too far and I don't respect him for that anymore. :(

Vera
09-13-2002, 10:22 PM
Ya, Twin Peak is probably my all time fave TV series. It's so fresh, right until the end when he decided to spoil it with the ending. I don't know what he's thinking then. I supposed when it's such a hit and ppl started buying in to his out of norm kinda way that he felt the need to do something really bizarre to shock everyone. Twin Peak the movie:eek: what can I say.

How 'bout Scorcese? I like him very much. PPl do this :rolleyes: when I told them l like "Last temptation of Christ". I'm not that religious but I was really moved by the film that I sweared my faith goes up so much bcos of that movie. I wonder if those church ppl actually watch it when they said they are so offended by it.

Layla
09-13-2002, 10:35 PM
Well, what can I say about Scorcese. He's a genius! People roll their eyes at Last Temptation of Christ? :eek: Well let me roll my eyes at them. :rolleyes: It's a great movie. Just because it doesn't subscribe to the Christian dogma doesn't make it offensive. Well actually it does in their eyes but all it did was make Christ human. He did inhabit a human body after all.

Vera
09-13-2002, 10:51 PM
Exactly, it makes it all the more moving to think about we human with so much desires and Jesus has to give them all up. Okay, steer away from religion (my friend once told me not to talk about politic and religion) and you can always make friends in this world. :)

Scorcese is indeed a genius. Besides those most famous one like Ragging Bull and King of Comedy, I loved After Hours, a dard comedy. It was really humourous at that time, though it wasn't as much when I watch it again recently. But still, good memory. I don't think I will be watching his new one though, I suspect that Mr. Leo DiCappio has something to do with it. Well, I don't like Leo, another reason I wasn't too interested in Titanic.

Layla
09-13-2002, 10:57 PM
Eugh, Leonardo! http://www.tag-board.com/smilies/sick.gif Don't even mention him.

I loved After Hours too. It was funny and hectic but then I had the same experience you did. I watched it again and it just wasn't the same movie I remembered.

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Well, it's pretty hard to hit the lowest notes on the tenor sax. It takes a lot out of you, so what I meant was maybe I should have started with the alto because it doesn't require as much breath, just until I got used to it and increased my lung capacity.

And I didn't mention that I was completely self-taught, so it wasn't anything like serious practice. I was just fooling around while I had. I discovered everything on my own just by trying. I didn't even have a manual or a book lol. It was so much fun. It's always been a dream of mine to play a saxophone for some reason and yes tenor is my first choice. One day I will buy my own, but I'll have to move too as I live in an appartment building and apparently people could hear me on the parking lot. :o That must have been horrible for my neighbours. :p

LOL, I understood you were just fooling around. I was just saying, if you wanted to seriously take some lessons :)

I've been playing music for years and years so I can barely remember when I couldn't play low notes :o I play a bass instrument, actually, and it's ruined my singing voice because my ear is tuned to a lower range than I can sing, LOL!

I live in a dorm, and I can hear the dude across the hall practicing (the trumpet, and he's not very good!), but after awhile you get used to it. I mean, unless there's some specific ordinance against "noise" . . . ::shrug::

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Funny I never thought of Russian as fast. Maybe it's because it's a Slavic language like mine and the two are really quite similar.

And I don't think German is very fast either. Germans probably have the clearest pronunciation of all languages I'm familiar with so it's not that difficult to understand. Also, German words are so long and complex they can't really be pronounced fast lol.

I have a course of Spanish on CD-rom and I intend to study it dillignetly during the cold autumn/winter months. That's a promise to myself. ;)

Oh, man, native Russian speakers fly through sentences and whole speeches way faster than I can comprehend them. If you give me a text to read and translate, I can do it relatively quickly and accurately. But I could never be an interpreter or anything.

I guess it's because it takes me so long to confirm the meaning of the words and reply correctly. Really, the best language learning years are way behind me :( But I've been in love with Russia for as long as I can remember so I'm pushing myself through it.

German is really gutteral sounding to me. I don't think it's fast, really, but then I also don't know the language nor have I heard it spoken fluently at any one point.

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yes, I admit. I prefer my players to be intelligent too. :o That's one thing you can say for Henman (since I know none of you likes him I won't bother you with the others ;) )

Hey, I like Henboy! Not as much as the players I'm constantly yakking about, but enough that I wish he'd win Wimbly--and he's been playing okay on clay lately, so . . .

Sometimes it just astonishes me how intelligent the players in tennis are as compared to other sports, especially like basketball, baseball, or American football. Tennis players know multiple languages and are so culturally aware (for the most part).

But back to the interviews--I wish that when the reporters start asking the players questions in their native languages, they would NOT tape over it with translated English. They did this with Juan Carlos & Michel and it bugged the hell out of me. Both speak so nicely in their native tongues :(

Layla
09-13-2002, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I live in a dorm, and I can hear the dude across the hall practicing (the trumpet, and he's not very good!), but after awhile you get used to it. I mean, unless there's some specific ordinance against "noise" . . . ::shrug::

Well, no noise after 10 pm but I'm not that inconsiderate. ;) Besides, my father is the president of the owner's committee or something like that and he practically runs the building all by himself, so that's an advantage. ;) People have to go to him to complain about noise. :p

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't know anything about Vladimir :o except that I like his name lol. :) I'll be on the lookout for him.

He qualified for Wimbly in 99? I think it was, and made a terrific run to the semis. I remember his story was similar to Michael Russell's at RG last year--when Vladimir made it to the semis, he actually had to borrow clothes from another player (I forget who) because he didn't have a clothing sponser. (I remember Russell had to buy about 15 pairs of shoes throughout the year, and when he almost defeated Guga he was beseiged with shoe deals).

But anyway, Vladimir plays quite nicely on grass. I haven't seen him since then, but there was something about his game that struck me. I was sad when he slipped down the rankings, so far that he has to qualify for tournaments again (even Wimbly). :( But hopefully this is a track back up!

Layla
09-13-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I guess it's because it takes me so long to confirm the meaning of the words and reply correctly. Really, the best language learning years are way behind me :( But I've been in love with Russia for as long as I can remember so I'm pushing myself through it.


I don't entirely believe in perfect learning years for languages (or anything else for that matter), so I'm sure you can still achieve a degree of brilliance if you really want to. How did this love for Russia come about and what do you love about it?

TennisHack
09-13-2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Vera
How 'bout Scorcese? I like him very much. PPl do this :rolleyes: when I told them l like "Last temptation of Christ". I'm not that religious but I was really moved by the film that I sweared my faith goes up so much bcos of that movie. I wonder if those church ppl actually watch it when they said they are so offended by it.

I feel waaaay too inadequate to discuss great films with you guys, but I can add something here. Martin Scorcese is wonderful. The main people who were morbidly offended by The Last Temptation of Christ were, indeed, people who didn't see it themselves. There was a big uproar when it came out because of the title--tempting Christ is a no-no :rolleyes:

Anyway, the only Scorcese film I've seen is "Age of Innocence". It was absolutely gorgeous. I have this thing for period peices, but sometimes they are waaaay too mushy and stupid. "Age of Innocence" was too good for words. I read the original novel because I loved the movie so much, and it stayed as in line with the book as is possible. :drool:

Vera
09-13-2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


But back to the interviews--I wish that when the reporters start asking the players questions in their native languages, they would NOT tape over it with translated English. They did this with Juan Carlos & Michel and it bugged the hell out of me. Both speak so nicely in their native tongues :(

I thought so too, that it bugs me crazy not to be able to hear his voice. Though I don't know a word in spanish that he says. I did sometimes goes on to his official site, I mean JC's and listen to his video interviews. Still don't have a clue what he says but it sounds beautiful coming out from his mouth.