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ILR
01-10-2003, 10:12 PM
Hi Hackie :wavey:

Im on the mend thanks ;) :D I can also see Leo :)

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Bye RF! :wavey:

Yes, he's playing against Schuettler. Ooops, I forgot about Juanqui! :o

Congrats on beating Paradorn! That was classic! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: And they even showed the match on Eurosport but I couldn't watch it so I taped it. I'm in heaven again. :hearts: I had no idea they were covering the ATP matches in Sydney.

omg you are so lucky. i would kill to see that beating he gave Paradorn! :D

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 10:20 PM
LOL, me too Leo. I guess there's another match that's going on my wish list.

By the way, have you finished the Roma final?

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
I have not seen the first Potter movie yet, I thought the second one was pretty good, though. I like Bond movies in general, the latest one didn't strike me as being significantly better or worse than the others, they all seem rather the same! LOL

Gee, my answers are terribly vague.... but I can't recall too much about them at this stage, they both got way overshadowed in my mind by LOTR! LOL :o

definitely.. Lord of the Rings surpasses both Harry Potter and James Bond in my mind. :)

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Lee
:eek: :eek: :eek:

He does read your musical, TH!

:eek: :eek: :eek:


:D :D :D Congrats Juanqui! Go to AO with a trophy!

:D I told you he likes to keep his fans on their toes ;)

C'mon Juanqui & Kimmy!! Let's have the first of many TH Double Wins here!! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
LOL, me too Leo. I guess there's another match that's going on my wish list.

By the way, have you finished the Roma final?

yeah, i just finished watching Roma last night. one hell of a battle. Ferrero started off quite poorly (probably due to nerves in his first TMS final) but once he settled down he was magnificent. the groundstrokes were working, he was finishing off points from up at net, and he was running down EVERYTHING! :eek: Ferrero was especially serving excellently in the final set when he had two service holds at love. :D Guga was up and down throughout the match. he started off hitting winners from everywhere on the court but at certain times during the match he would strangely be overcome by unforced errors. there were so many momentum shifts throughout the 5 sets, making it all the more dramatic.

unfortunately the commentators (Luke Jensen and Bob Picozzi) were fucking idiots. they kept saying that the classic Guga-Juanqui semifinal from RG 2000 was an opening round match that year. they didn't realize until the 3rd set that it was really a semifinal match. :rolleyes: and Luke kept saying over and over that Kuerten has the edge b/c Ferrero didn't have any pop on his first serve but i think he definitely proved the asshole wrong by hitting about 8 aces (including one on match point).

the tape even included the trophy presentation after the match. :) both Ferrero and Kuerten attempted to speak in italian and i think they were pretty good. Bob Picozzi did some translations from the commentary booth during Juanqui's speech so that was nice. but i was kinda pissed b/c they cut to a commercial DURING Ferrero's speech! :eek: :fiery: but what do you expect from ESPN? :rolleyes:

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 10:42 PM
Wow, it sounds like it was quite a match!! I just watched the Moya semifinal from the Masters Cup last year, and overall I have been incredibly impressed by the 2002 Masters Cup play, from all players. The angles, the power, the mix of strategies -- wonderful.

Of course, I've had to mute the commentators :rolleyes: -- though Cliffy gained many many brownie points in my book during the Novak match when he made his bet. Geez, I can't believe Luke Jensen and this Bob Picozzi guy were so fucking daft -- a first round match?!?! No way would Ferrero & Guga have met in a first round match in 2001 or 2001! :rolleyes:

But other than that it sounds like a great match. We might have to make another deal ;)

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:45 PM
btw, i have some bad news. i was looking everywhere for that Serena/Kim match from the WTA Championships and i couldn't find it. i looked through my entire tape colection but the match was nowhere to be found. i know i never taped over it (at least not on purpose) so it has to be lying around somewhere. i'll keep looking for you, TH.

is Emma still around? :confused: :kiss:

ILR
01-10-2003, 10:50 PM
yes Im still here,leafing through these new posts and Im a little busy,but Im still around!:)

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Wow, it sounds like it was quite a match!! I just watched the Moya semifinal from the Masters Cup last year, and overall I have been incredibly impressed by the 2002 Masters Cup play, from all players. The angles, the power, the mix of strategies -- wonderful.

Of course, I've had to mute the commentators :rolleyes: -- though Cliffy gained many many brownie points in my book during the Novak match when he made his bet. Geez, I can't believe Luke Jensen and this Bob Picozzi guy were so fucking daft -- a first round match?!?! No way would Ferrero & Guga have met in a first round match in 2001 or 2001! :rolleyes:

But other than that it sounds like a great match. We might have to make another deal ;)

yes, i was tremendously impressed also by how well the guys played last year in Shanghai. all of them were on top of their games (with maybe the exception of Marat Safin), and that's extraordinary since it has been a very long season. i was very disappointed by the play in the WTA Championships b/c aso many girls were complaining about how tired they were and how long the season was (like Dokic and Henin, for example) and weren't able to play their best tennis at all.

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:52 PM
hey Emma :kiss: :kiss:

i'm leafing through posts also. not many new ones today but i still have some to read from yesterday.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
btw, i have some bad news. i was looking everywhere for that Serena/Kim match from the WTA Championships and i couldn't find it. i looked through my entire tape colection but the match was nowhere to be found. i know i never taped over it (at least not on purpose) so it has to be lying around somewhere. i'll keep looking for you, TH.

:( Thanks, Leo. I hope you can find it. If you're like me, its right under your nose and you're just missing it :rolleyes: I have to keep my tapes in a big pile so I can keep them all together and I know where everything is.

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:53 PM
here's a new article about Jen-Jen:

Capriati: I'm not model thin, just big boned
By PAUL MALONE in Sydney
10jan03

JENNIFER Capriati has rejected claims she is not fit enough to halt the dominance of the Williams sisters.
On a tour which relies on players to sell advertising, magazines and sportswear, scrutiny of the fitness of women has never been higher.

Capriati, 26, said she had been upset by a Sydney newspaper columnist's assertion last Tuesday that she had come to Australia with a "plum pudding" stomach.

The world No.3, has drifted to fourth favourite with TAB Sportsbet for an Australian Open hat-trick after her second round defeat to Russian Tatiana Panova at the adidas International in Sydney on Tuesday.

World No.1 Serena Williams is a $1.90 favourite, with sister Venus ($3) and Kim Clijsters ($8) also favoured over Capriati.

"What I would say to your colleague is he obviously doesn't know about sports and shouldn't be writing about athletes when he doesn't know," Capriati said.

"If he touched my stomach right now, it's a rock.

"If he looks at my body type, I don't think anybody would say I was overweight. I'm not model thin. I'm big boned and I'm not heavy. I'd probably look anorexic (compared) to him.

"Everyone has their own body type and it's not about how you look, it's about how you feel – are you fit? There are a lot of muscular girls and you wouldn't say they are skinny, but they are unbelievably fit."

While she strongly defended her fitness, Capriati said she didn't blame punters for being cautious about her Australian Open chances.

"It's going to be very tough and I don't expect myself to win it," she said yesterday.

"Not many people have done it. Whatever happens next week is going to happen."

Capriati may be the property of Serena Williams after five consecutive losses to her in 2002, but the dual champion says she feels ownership of the Australian Open, the only title in her possession after an otherwise barren year.

Capriati calls Melbourne her "second home".

Her inner thoughts have become more and more impenetrable as Venus and then Serena Williams wrenched control of women's tennis in the last three months of 2001.

But she spoke with warmth and openness about Melbourne and its place in her heart.

Capriati said it took a video night at her mother Denise's house in Florida a month later to realise the enormity of what she had achieved in the heat wave Australian Open final of 2002. "It was a huge redemption for myself," she said.

When the inevitable US made-for-television movie of Capriati's life is filmed, there will be a pivotal scene in which actors portraying both her and opponent Martina Hingis will be packed in ice on adjoining rub-down tables after the second set. Two wheelchairs will be parked in the tunnel to the dressing-rooms, with medical staff and intravenous drips at the ready.

The American saved four match points in the second set, after being down a set and 0-4.

"It seems like a dream. I think the true greats are put to the test and come through in their impossible situations. Look at Sampras coming back and winning the US Open," Capriati said.

"It didn't sink in until a month after when my mom had the tape and we'd sit and watch it, over and over ... I was screaming: `Wow, no way'. I'd never played a match quite like that."

Twelve months ago, she was in far more trouble with her Australian Open campaign. Father and coach Stefano admitted after the final that, at one stage, she was inclined to scrap her title defence because of a strained adductor muscle.

"It's pretty funny how it's been working out that way, losing in Sydney again. I don't know if it's a sign of good things to come," Capriati said.

"Everyone talks like my year was terrible. I could have had better, some matches I should have won and didn't win. Instead of it cracking me, it'll make me more motivated."

ILR
01-10-2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
hey Emma :kiss: :kiss:

i'm leafing through posts also. not many new ones today but i still have some to read from yesterday.

hi :kiss:

yeah Im just finished reading from the other night lol and Im on msn,so busy :eek: its scary!;) and trying to do some choolwork.lol ;)

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:( Thanks, Leo. I hope you can find it. If you're like me, its right under your nose and you're just missing it :rolleyes: I have to keep my tapes in a big pile together so I can keep them all together.

i know, the problem is that my tapes are so disorganized. and most of them are un-labeled so that makes everything more confusing. i really need to learn to label all my tapes so i don't get so confused.

Leo7
01-10-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
hi :kiss:

yeah Im just finished reading from the other night lol and Im on msn,so busy :eek: its scary!;) and trying to do some choolwork.lol ;)

lol.. sounds like you're a serious multi-tasker. ;)

Shift of Open unthinkable
Any imminent shift of the Australian Open from January to March would be "unthinkable", the tournament's chief executive Paul McNamee said on Friday.


Despite players lobbying for a change in the tennis calendar and their complaints about searing Australian midsummer heat and insufficient warm-up events for the opening grand slam of the season, McNamee insisted there would be no change in the calendar until 2007 at the very earliest.

"We are very happy where we are," he told Reuters at Melbourne Park. "That is not to say that if we started with a blank piece of paper we would not hold the tournament later in the year.

"But let's just say we are going to be in January where we are for the next few years – there's no question about that.

"It is unthinkable for a structural change (in the tennis calendar) of that scale to happen in the next few years.

"Anything we are talking about is way, way off in the future, let's be clear about that. There are massive commercial ramifications."

McNamee did agree, however, that the issue was one which needed to be examined after leading players called for a change in the calendar earlier in the week.

Players including Andre Agassi and Marat Safin led complaints that competitors were often ill-prepared for one of the most important tournaments of the year -- there are just two weeks of ATP and WTA tournaments before the Open.

Agassi said: "From an ideal standpoint, everybody would be better served if it was pushed back in the year.

"It would give us (players) more chance to relax in what you could call the off-season and it would allow for a better build up and for better tennis at the Open."

MAJOR HEADACHE

Former women's world number one Martina Navratilova believes playing the Open in on-court temperatures which can top 45 degrees Celsius is downright dangerous.

McNamee said: "I've got a certain sympathy for these comments.

"If the sport really had a will to start again with a blank piece of paper we are not going to be intransigent about it.

"But it is not just us moving... it is all the other tournaments. I want to put this in perspective."

McNamee said the Australian Open would not move unless the current warm-up events in Australia -- Adelaide, Sydney, the Gold Coast, Canberra and Hobart -- were protected.

"We are a family this four weeks of tennis in Australia -- if there is any chance of a change of dates then we are all moving together."

That alone would create a major headache for the sport's administrators.

International Tennis Federation president Francesco Ricci- Bitti said earlier in the week that his organisation was talking to the ATP, which organises the men's tour, about moving a couple of U.S. tournaments to make way for a later Australian Open.

That would suggest some U.S. hardcourt tournaments would also become viable warm-up events for the Open -- something that would hurt the Australian tournaments.

While a new-look Australian autumn of tennis would help players prepare for Melbourne Park, it would, however, wreak havoc with the city's sporting calendar.

A March date would leave the Open in danger of clashing with the Formula One Grand Prix and the lead-up to the AFL season.

McNamee added: "The Commonwealth Games are here in 2006 there's no way at all anything could happen before then."

Reuters
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Pity. Looks like we'll have to watch all the players melting in Melbourne mid-summer for a few years yet...

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:00 PM
Good morning, thread! :D :wavey:

ferrerogrrl
01-10-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
:) both Ferrero and Kuerten attempted to speak in italian and i think they were pretty good.

They speak Italian!! Wow! Can I send you some money for a copy of that tape?

ILR
01-10-2003, 11:01 PM
lol Leo ;) Im trying my best!

ferrerogrrl
01-10-2003, 11:02 PM
ILuvRogi, who's the hot guy in your avatar? :)

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:04 PM
Hi, DP! :wavey:

ILR
01-10-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
ILuvRogi, who's the hot guy in your avatar? :)

hee hee I think everyone is getting sick of this guy already(except me ;)) and he is Raul,a Real Madrid striker and you are right,very hot :D

ferrerogrrl
01-10-2003, 11:05 PM
Is Espn showing any coverage of the Lee-JCF final?

ferrerogrrl
01-10-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
hee hee I think everyone is getting sick of this guy already(except me ;)) and he is Raul,a Real Madrid striker and you are right,very hot :D

He looks a bit like the actor from that movie 'My best friend's wedding'. Dermot something?

ILR
01-10-2003, 11:10 PM
lol I can assure you its not Dermot......something :p trust me,Ive looked at it enough times ;):p

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
Capriati: I'm not model thin, just big boned
By PAUL MALONE in Sydney
10jan03

JENNIFER Capriati has rejected claims she is not fit enough to halt the dominance of the Williams sisters.
On a tour which relies on players to sell advertising, magazines and sportswear, scrutiny of the fitness of women has never been higher.

Capriati, 26, said she had been upset by a Sydney newspaper columnist's assertion last Tuesday that she had come to Australia with a "plum pudding" stomach.

You know, it really is disgusting the way that female tennis players' bodies are still so scrutinized. You don't see newpaper columnists balking at Potato man's weight (or face :D), or any other male player for that matter.

We ladies don't all look alike, and believe me when I see being tall and waifishly thin is NOT the norm. There is such a thing as 'fat and fit' and please, nobody who plays professional tennis for a living is anywhere near fat.

I haven't seen JCap lately, but I have heard she's put on a few pounds. I wouldn't be surprised if she's not as rock-hard as she was during her princess run in 2001, but there's no way she's overweight. Perhaps she needs better guidance in her fashion sense than in her eating habits, and my advice to Jenny is don't stoop to their level, just go out and do your stuff and let your tennis speak for itself.

That being said, I'm kinda glad to hear her say she doesn't think she's the surefire winner. I think that attitude has hurt her in the last season and the pressure to defeat the Williamses proved too much. She's in the toughest quarter of the draw and if she makes it to the quarters, semis, or final again its because she's going to earn it.

And I'm not even a fan of JCap. I just hate that the ladies are scrutinized for their physical appearance. But I don't want to get off on another rant about that :fiery:

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Lee
Kim and Dani definitely have a very good draw. Lindsay has a pretty tough draw, she has to pass Justine and J Cap into order to get out of her quarter. Even she can do so, it may be too much when she meet Venus.

i agree that Lindsay has a difficult draw, but i know she can get past Justine and Jcap in back-to-back matches. i'm not even worried about those two. and i'm not so sure that Venus will reach the semifinals. i think she made a mistake by not playing a single warm-up tournament this year before the AO (last year she played and won Gold Coast and i think that helped), so she will go into the Aussie Open rusty and out of form. not to mention she has a very difficult first round match against the talented Svetlana Kuznetsova. and also Hantuchova is in her quarter and we all know how determined she will be to upset Venus (especially after her 6-4 in the 3rd loss last year in Melbourne).

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:13 PM
Hi, TH! :) :wavey: How are you today?

For some strange reason I got up real early (before 5 am) earlier this morning, and I was really hungry.... but there wasn't any more instant stuff in the house; the only thing I had left in the house was raw chicken, which I had to cut up and cook properly :p . So I had it with this instant sauce I bought, it's one of a range of Indian curries I usually get.... normally I go for the normal sounding ones like Tikka Masala or Rogan Josh, but this was a bottle of 'Pineapple Goan' that I thought I'd gamble with.... sounds a bit yuck (pineapple in curry?!) but surprisingly the end product did not taste pineapply at all, and was extremely good! I'm actually going to get more of that in the future. Then after I ate, I felt sleepy again, and went back to bed... :o

LOL, this post is both inane and weird. :p

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
i know, the problem is that my tapes are so disorganized. and most of them are un-labeled so that makes everything more confusing. i really need to learn to label all my tapes so i don't get so confused.

Wow, I am so anal about my tapes -- I have to label them, and right now they are in chronological order.

I guess it more than makes up for my usually sloppy-but-organizational style :o

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
Is Espn showing any coverage of the Lee-JCF final?

unfortunately not.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
Shift of Open unthinkable

What pissed me off about this is the fact that the tournament director was such a fucking asshole. Everyone knows its going to be a total reorganization of the tennis calendar to move the Aussie Open, but to brush off serious medical complaints from the players?! :eek: What kind of fucking idiot is he?!?!

I think that if it wasn't a Grand Slam (if, say, it was a Masters Series or something) players would boycott it until it changed. But since it's a Slam and it pays out so much money it's too dangerous of a move to make simply on principle.

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Wow, I am so anal about my tapes -- I have to label them, and right now they are in chronological order.

I guess it more than makes up for my usually sloppy-but-organizational style :o

wow, i'm impressed. i wish i had your organizational skills.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:20 PM
Whoops! Somehow mananged to skip this post :o

Originally posted by Leo7
i was very disappointed by the play in the WTA Championships b/c aso many girls were complaining about how tired they were and how long the season was (like Dokic and Henin, for example) and weren't able to play their best tennis at all.

There were many things wrong with the WTA Championships this year, but the right person won and that's all that matters in the end :) Although -- LMAO at the interviews from the Hopman Cup:

Serena: "I was tired during the Championships; I was dead after my 13 tournaments!"

Kim: Well after my 25 tournaments I felt dead, too."

She's a nice girl but she knows when to be cutting :D

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
What pissed me off about this is the fact that the tournament director was such a fucking asshole. Everyone knows its going to be a total reorganization of the tennis calendar to move the Aussie Open, but to brush off serious medical complaints from the players?! :eek: What kind of fucking idiot is he?!?!

I think that if it wasn't a Grand Slam (if, say, it was a Masters Series or something) players would boycott it until it changed. But since it's a Slam and it pays out so much money it's too dangerous of a move to make simply on principle.

i think if this year's Aussie Open heat situation is as bad as last year, tournament directors will be FORCED to think about making a move/shift before 2007. they can't just avoid all these player complaints forever. maybe the players should boycott if nothing happens b/c they are playing in dangerous conditions in Melbourne and something needs to change here. boycotting a Grand Slam makes a serious statement, especially if the top players do it.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
Is Espn showing any coverage of the Lee-JCF final?

Nope, no coverage til the Aussie Open.

ILR
01-10-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Whoops! Somehow mananged to skip this post :o



There were many things wrong with the WTA Championships this year, but the right person won and that's all that matters in the end :) Although -- LMAO at the interviews from the Hopman Cup:

Serena: "I was tired during the Championships; I was dead after my 13 tournaments!"

Kim: Well after my 25 tournaments I felt dead, too."

She's a nice girl but she knows when to be cutting :D

ha ha ha!Go Kimmie :p that sounds like a sarcastic comment I would make :o

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Wow, I am so anal about my tapes -- I have to label them, and right now they are in chronological order.

I guess it more than makes up for my usually sloppy-but-organizational style :o

I am impressed too.... even my thesis work more resembles Leo's tapes.... my zip disks are a disastrous pile labelled 'Calculations', 'More Calculations', 'Even More Calculations', 'Yet More Calculations' and 'Thesis Backup', 'More Thesis Backup', 'Even More Thesis Backup' etc. etc. no other info details like dates or anything.... happened to me at least three times while I was writing up that I looked though my pile of zip disks and went, "oh SHIT, these points are missing!", spend days recalculating them, and stumbling across the now duplicated 'missing files' the following morning. :o :p

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Whoops! Somehow mananged to skip this post :o



There were many things wrong with the WTA Championships this year, but the right person won and that's all that matters in the end :) Although -- LMAO at the interviews from the Hopman Cup:

Serena: "I was tired during the Championships; I was dead after my 13 tournaments!"

Kim: Well after my 25 tournaments I felt dead, too."

She's a nice girl but she knows when to be cutting :D

lol so true. i mean, what a lame excuse from Serena. going into the WTA Championships she hadn't played a singles tournament since Leipzig (september/october). and she is obviously extremely fit so i don't think exhaustion was the problem.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
Hi, TH! :) :wavey: How are you today?

For some strange reason I got up real early (before 5 am) earlier this morning, and I was really hungry.... but there wasn't any more instant stuff in the house; the only thing I had left in the house was raw chicken, which I had to cut up and cook properly :p . So I had it with this instant sauce I bought, it's one of a range of Indian curries I usually get.... normally I go for the normal sounding ones like Tikka Masala or Rogan Josh, but this was a bottle of 'Pineapple Goan' that I thought I'd gamble with.... sounds a bit yuck (pineapple in curry?!) but surprisingly the end product did not taste pineapply at all, and was extremely good! I'm actually going to get more of that in the future. Then after I ate, I felt sleepy again, and went back to bed... :o

LOL, this post is both inane and weird. :p

I'm fine, thank you :)

LOL, I can't believe you were coherent enough to prepare a "real meal", not to mention patient enough at 5 am. I can't even pry myself out of bed that early in the morning :o

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:wavey: Wow has it been quiet here today :eek:

I too am very happy to see the TH double could come to pass :bounce::bounce: Both Kimmy & Juanqui could have tough matches but I hope it comes to pass while I can still see it! :) I am flying back to school tomorrow (so I won't be around this weekend) but I'm hoping to stay up and see both finals *please don't let it rain please don't let it rain*

Well, since nobody's around, I'll be on my way as well.

well looks like you and me will be at odds in the women's final. GO LINZI! :p ;)

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Serena: "I was tired during the Championships; I was dead after my 13 tournaments!"

Kim: Well after my 25 tournaments I felt dead, too."


This is actually the first time I've heard of this, OMG, LMFAO Kim's response is a classic! :D

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I'm fine, thank you :)

LOL, I can't believe you were coherent enough to prepare a "real meal", not to mention patient enough at 5 am. I can't even pry myself out of bed that early in the morning :o

LMAO.... I was actually cursing the fact that I had no canned soup or instant noodles left early this morning.... I don't like to do 'real cooking' (I live on my own, not really worth it in terms of time) and only do it about once a week.

Leo7
01-10-2003, 11:32 PM
well i caught up on all the posts from today and i have to go. dinner time. :lick: :wavey: goodbye everybody.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
I am impressed too.... even my thesis work more resembles Leo's tapes.... my zip disks are a disastrous pile labelled 'Calculations', 'More Calculations', 'Even More Calculations', 'Yet More Calculations' and 'Thesis Backup', 'More Thesis Backup', 'Even More Thesis Backup' etc. etc. no other info details like dates or anything.... happened to me at least three times while I was writing up that I looked though my pile of zip disks and went, "oh SHIT, these points are missing!", spend days recalculating them, and stumbling across the now duplicated 'missing files' the following morning. :o :p

That's like my worst nightmare!! :eek::eek: I have to have all of that stuff in order, its just too important.

I'm a perfectionist, I admit it, but to look at me, I'm not a neat freak. Just organized in my own way :)

ILR
01-10-2003, 11:33 PM
bye Leo :kiss: :wavey:

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
This is actually the first time I've heard of this, OMG, LMFAO Kim's response is a classic! :D

I posted all of the Hopman interviews somewhere in this thread so that one's around somewhere.

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
LMAO.... I was actually cursing the fact that I had no canned soup or instant noodles left early this morning.... I don't like to do 'real cooking' (I live on my own, not really worth it in terms of time) and only do it about once a week.

Well, you're doing better than me. I don't live on my own but when I have to fend for myself I usually just make a sandwich or something. Cooking is not my forte, though I do like to bake sometimes. I like quick and easy :o

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:38 PM
Bye, Leo :wavey: See you again for the finals, no? We will be on opposite sides for the ladies final but I might not be here to cheer Kimmy on, it all depends on how long the mens' matches are.

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:39 PM
:wavey: Leo!

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:42 PM
LOL, I find cooking easier than baking... I still have zero intuition when it comes to making cakes....and I've gotten the whole range of outcomes from very good to disastrous. Never tried to make biscuits to date....

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
LOL, I find cooking easier than baking... I still have zero intuition when it comes to making cakes....and I've gotten the whole range of outcomes from very good to disastrous. Never tried to make biscuits to date....

Just stick to the recipe, that's my only hint to improve your chances. But like I said, I like quick and easy, so I usually make cakes from a box :D I've only made biscuits once, in 8th grade home ec while in a group of 4 boys. They were good, except for these deposits of salt because they weren't mixed well enough. But that's a whole other story . . .

Unless you mean cookies -- I'm very good at making cookies :D My reverse chocolate chip cookies are to die for, I must say. I was passing them out before Christmas, too bad you weren't around :(

BTW, and if I'm overstepping a boundary you don't have to reply, but what happened to being Marly's boyfriend? The scrolling message at the bottom of peoples' signatures always catch my attention :o:o:o:o

Layla
01-10-2003, 11:49 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

Just dropping by briefly to let you know I'm still around. ;) And of course to wish Juanqui and Kimmy goodluck tonight! :bounce:

I love to cook. I only learned how to make a proper meal 2 years ago when I became a vegetarian and I had to start making my own meals. I cook only for myself, but I make enough for 3 or 4 meals, divide it into meal-size portions and freeze the rest. But I love good food so it's definitely worth it. In the last 6 months I've barely had time to cook at all though. :( I buy these great tortellini with spinach and ricotta and just slap some sauce over them. That's been my staple for a while now.

Hmmm, I can't stand pineapple in savory dishes anymore. I used to be able to stomach it, especially in Chinese dishes, but now I can't even stand pineapple on its own. Haven't got a clue why.

Layla
01-10-2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

BTW, and if I'm overstepping a boundary you don't have to reply, but what happened to being Marly's boyfriend? The scrolling message at the bottom of peoples' signatures always catch my attention :o:o:o:o

I was wondering the same thing, but I was reluctant to ask. :o

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:53 PM
Errm.... what is the difference between biscuits and cookies? I kinda thought they were one and the same? :confused: :o


Oh that... it wasn't anything serious, kinda a bit of a in-joke Marly and I had for a while. We've both just stopped, I guess! LOL (although, she got rid of her scrolling bit first! :p )

Puss-in-Boots
01-10-2003, 11:54 PM
:wavey: Layla! :)

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:54 PM
:wavey: Hi, Layla!

I envy those of you who can and like to cook. I, too, usually have a staple food. While I was in high school, I'd take the same kind of lunch for months at a time. Everyone thought I was weird, but I just thought it was easy and really, can one grow tired of peanut butter sandwiches? ;)

Layla
01-10-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Lee
:eek: :eek: :eek:

He does read your musical, TH!

:eek: :eek: :eek:


:eek::eek::eek: I know, isn't is surreal! That was EXACTLY like the story. He was practically quoting TH! :D Hmmm, what else should we make him do? I don't suppose he would ever take marrying me seriously? :angel:

TennisHack
01-10-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
Errm.... what is the difference between biscuits and cookies? I kinda thought they were one and the same? :confused: :o


Oh that... it wasn't anything serious, kinda a bit of a in-joke Marly and I had for a while. We've both just stopped, I guess! LOL (although, she got rid of her scrolling bit first! :p )

Whoops, showing my roots again :o:o Biscuits here are a flaky bread usually eaten with breafast.

And I kinda knew you and Marly weren't a serious thing ;) I was just wondering if you two had a falling out or something. Glad to know it was just lost in the transition.

ILR
01-10-2003, 11:58 PM
Hi Layla :wavey:

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Layla
:eek::eek::eek: I know, isn't is surreal! That was EXACTLY like the story. He was practically quoting TH! :D Hmmm, what else should we make him do? I don't suppose he would ever take marrying me seriously? :angel:

Hey hey hey hey!!!! Marry you? :eek: He's with me right now! :D

Perhaps if you wrote more installments he'd catch on to you, too :D;):o

Or maybe he'd tell Arnaud about it and then . . . . ;)

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
And I kinda knew you and Marly weren't a serious thing ;) I was just wondering if you two had a falling out or something. Glad to know it was just lost in the transition.

A falling out? :o No.... In fact, I'm speaking to her in the Lleyki Camel thread at the moment. :)

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:wavey: Hi, Layla!

I envy those of you who can and like to cook. I, too, usually have a staple food. While I was in high school, I'd take the same kind of lunch for months at a time. Everyone thought I was weird, but I just thought it was easy and really, can one grow tired of peanut butter sandwiches? ;)

I know what you mean. At one point (when I was at my busiest) I think I actually ate torellini every day. :o But it's not healthy at all. I need to be very careful about my nutrition, so that I can get all the nutrients I would otherwise get from meat. Have to be mindful of protein and those tortellini just don't cut it on a daily basis.

Mmmmm, peanut butter sandwiches... :drool: Peanut butter is deadly and I need to avoid it at all costs. I do like to bake with peanut butter though. I love PB and banana muffins. :lick:

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Hey hey hey hey!!!! Marry you? :eek: He's with me right now! :D

Perhaps if you wrote more installments he'd catch on to you, too :D;):o

Or maybe he'd tell Arnaud about it and then . . . . ;)

LOL, I'll tell Arnaud myself when he comes back to Ljubljana in April (I hope, I hope, I hope). He has to, he's the defending champion. ;)

But I was married to him first (still am ;) ) so if he wants to follow the story, this is where he should start. :D

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:06 AM
Emma, are you still home sick or did you go to school today?

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Mmmmm, peanut butter sandwiches... :drool: Peanut butter is deadly and I need to avoid it at all costs. I do like to bake with peanut butter though. I love PB and banana muffins. :lick:

PB is deadly?! :eek: I've only known a few vegetarians in my life but I've never heard that from them.

I've also never heard of baking with it. I bet your muffins are good :)

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LOL, I'll tell Arnaud myself when he comes back to Ljubljana in April (I hope, I hope, I hope). He has to, he's the defending champion. ;)

But I was married to him first (still am ;) ) so if he wants to follow the story, this is where he should start. :D

LMAO, well I guess so (he should start at the beginning of the story). It's your turn to write so perhaps this will give you inspriation? ;)

And that would be so cool if you got to see Arnaud :hearts: You noticed the latest pic in the story thread, didn't you? ;)

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:11 AM
I love PB sandwiches... but haven't had one in ages.... I never buy bread because I keep forgetting to eat it quickly enough and it starts growing those green spotty things, bleargh. :p

ILR
01-11-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Emma, are you still home sick or did you go to school today?

Im OK now Layla,Im on the mend thanks :) I couldnt stay off another day,too important :(

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
I love PB sandwiches... but haven't had one in ages.... I never buy bread because I keep forgetting to eat it quickly enough and it starts growing those green spotty things, bleargh. :p

LOL, you mean mold? :D

Can't you get little loaves of bread or something? It does seem to be a waste to buy bread if you can't eat it all before it goes bad :(

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
PB is deadly?! :eek: I've only known a few vegetarians in my life but I've never heard that from them.

I've also never heard of baking with it. I bet your muffins are good :)

LOL, no I meant PB is deadly to me. I can't stop eating it once I get my hands on a PB jar and then I curse myself the next day when I'm 2 pounds heavier (not kidding either). I managed to control my urges and just ate a spoonful everyday but even then I just started to balloon. Now I only eat it occasionally. I can eat chocolate though. It's safer for me as it doesn't quite have the same effects.

Baking with peanut butter is divine! :lick: You should try it. Some of my favorite muffins are made with PB, but my mom was not too crazy about them. PB and chocolate muffins! :lick::lick: Shoot, I should bake them soon. I missed them. I miss baking too. :(

ILR
01-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Peanut butter :o noy my fave thing.Maybe it was because in primary school a lad that

ILR
01-11-2003, 12:16 AM
lol post posted by itself!:eek: Ill finish it off now!:o

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:17 AM
Y'know Allan, my answer was better than yours. :p

ILR
01-11-2003, 12:18 AM
because in primary school a lad that I used to know would eat peanut butter butties and then breathe all over me :rolleyes: yuk so I hated the smell lol from then on

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
LMAO, well I guess so (he should start at the beginning of the story). It's your turn to write so perhaps this will give you inspriation? ;)

And that would be so cool if you got to see Arnaud :hearts: You noticed the latest pic in the story thread, didn't you? ;)

Hehe, I love it how you keep dropping hints that I should kick myself in the ass and write some more installments. :D I wish I could, I really do. :(

Yeah, I saw that pic but I forgot to comment. He looked gorgeous! :hearts::hearts::hearts: There aren't enough good pictures of him around. :(

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
LOL, you mean mold? :D

Can't you get little loaves of bread or something? It does seem to be a waste to buy bread if you can't eat it all before it goes bad :(

Yup, mould.... I think 'green spotty things' kinda sounds cool though.... must be the juvenile phase. Yeah, it's a waste... which is why I never buy bread.... I don't think I've seen loaves here that are smaller than normal.... Australian supermarkets tend to stock for families, not loners like myself.... buying meat is a pain... I have to plan for at least 3 meals everytime I get a packet of meat.

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Y'know Allan, my answer was better than yours. :p

LMAO, I admitted exactly that already! :p

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
LMAO, I admitted exactly that already! :p

I just wanted to make sure everyone else knew, too. :p

Btw, howdy Juanqui fans! :D

I've gone avatar mad. :o

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Layla
LOL, no I meant PB is deadly to me. I can't stop eating it once I get my hands on a PB jar and then I curse myself the next day when I'm 2 pounds heavier (not kidding either). I managed to control my urges and just ate a spoonful everyday but even then I just started to balloon. Now I only eat it occasionally. I can eat chocolate though. It's safer for me as it doesn't quite have the same effects.

How strange! Usually chocolate is the one that people try to avoid (me included, but sometimes you just get a craving for it). I've never heard of anyone having such a reaction. I eat it because I don't eat all types of meat so I need some sort of protein variety.

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Wow, I am so anal about my tapes -- I have to label them, and right now they are in chronological order.

I guess it more than makes up for my usually sloppy-but-organizational style :o

I label all my tapes too. I have a zillion things on them (I think I must have 100 tapes by now) so I'd never be able to know where anything was if I didn't write everything I tape and the appropriate date. Floppy disks are another matter though. :o I guess movies and tennis and music that I have on those tapes mean more too me. :o

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Hehe, I love it how you keep dropping hints that I should kick myself in the ass and write some more installments. :D I wish I could, I really do. :(

Yeah, I saw that pic but I forgot to comment. He looked gorgeous! :hearts::hearts::hearts: There aren't enough good pictures of him around. :(

Well basically I'm fresh out of ideas so until you come up with something the story is going to stagnate. THAT'S why I keep urging you to think up something.

And I can give the site where I got that picture, there's quite a few of him there :)

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:25 AM
So what was your explanation Marly? ;)

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:27 AM
My explanation was that our passion burned so bright, we had to hide it so it wouldn't blind people. :D :p

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:29 AM
That sucks, ILR. You don't know what you're missing -- but I can understand the aversion.


Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
Australian supermarkets tend to stock for families, not loners like myself.... buying meat is a pain... I have to plan for at least 3 meals everytime I get a packet of meat.

Ugh :rolleyes: That sucks. It's the same here in America -- is there also this stigma about overeating in Australia? When food is sold in huge quantities, I mean . . . .

and I'm confused :confused::o:o:o What did Marly say about the scrolling thing?

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
How strange! Usually chocolate is the one that people try to avoid (me included, but sometimes you just get a craving for it). I've never heard of anyone having such a reaction. I eat it because I don't eat all types of meat so I need some sort of protein variety.

Any type of meat has complete proteins. You don't have to eat different types of meat for a balanced nutrition. :confused: Only vegetarians have to worry about protein combination.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:30 AM
Oops, spoke too late.

Hehe, I like that better too :D

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Any type of meat has complete proteins. You don't have to eat different types of meat for a balanced nutrition. :confused: Only vegetarians have to worry about protein combination.

:o Damn, am not explaning myself too well tonight :o

I know all meat contains the same type of proteins, but when you only eat two types you've got to have something else that will give you the same nutrient but is different.

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:32 AM
Since I've already butted into y'all's thread, I might as well say that I'm allergic to chocolate. I do like peanut butter, though, with grape jelly. :p

ILR
01-11-2003, 12:33 AM
It just knocks me sick now Hackie ;) anyways Im off to bed now,goodnight!:wavey:

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Ugh :rolleyes: That sucks. It's the same here in America -- is there also this stigma about overeating in Australia? When food is sold in huge quantities, I mean . . . .


I'm not too sure.... I'm very thin myself, so I'm always trying to eat as much as I can and I don't really carefully follow what the media say about people trying to *lose* weight. However, I am aware that Australia IS one of the more obese countries, very close behind the US. So the stigma could quite probably exist here too.

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:35 AM
Good night, ILR :wavey:

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Well basically I'm fresh out of ideas so until you come up with something the story is going to stagnate. THAT'S why I keep urging you to think up something.

And I can give the site where I got that picture, there's quite a few of him there :)

Please, please, please!!! :bounce:

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:36 AM
Goodnight, ILR :wavey:

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:o Damn, am not explaning myself too well tonight :o

I know all meat contains the same type of proteins, but when you only eat two types you've got to have something else that will give you the same nutrient but is different.

Really? I've never heard of that. Can you explain that further?

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Since I've already butted into y'all's thread, I might as well say that I'm allergic to chocolate. I do like peanut butter, though, with grape jelly. :p

Allergic to chocolate?!? :eek: That's tragic! :sad: (I'm a chocoholic.)

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:39 AM
Obscure fact of the day: Houston is the "sweatiest" (AKA, hottest and most obese) city in America.

It is now also the city with the worst air pollution. Fun place to live, eh? :p

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:39 AM
For Layla (http://www.pbase.com/vtp/adelaide_2003) ;)

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Really? I've never heard of that. Can you explain that further?

I was just speaking of myself -- I only eat two types of meat, so I need some sort of variety. It's not a hard and fast rule or anything, just a personal preference. :)

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:41 AM
Night Emma! Sweet dreams! :wavey:

And while I'm saying goodnight to Emma, I best say goodnight to everyone else too, because it's past my bed-time. ;)

Cheer for Juanqui in my name please! I would love to see him hold that trophy and start the year with a bang! :D

VAMOS JUANQUI! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Goodnight everyone! :wavey:

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:42 AM
:wavey: Night Layla!

*cheers for Juanqui in her name*

And being allergic to chocolate isn't so bad. I make up for it by drinking three or four sodas a day. :p

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:44 AM
Goodnight, Layla :wavey: You can be sure the results will be here, good or bad -- and a trophy pic :D

I won't see you until Sunday then, so you'll have a chance to catch up to me in posts ;) Have a good weekend!

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I was just speaking of myself -- I only eat two types of meat, so I need some sort of variety. It's not a hard and fast rule or anything, just a personal preference. :)

I see. Which two types if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks for the link. :D Alright, these are new! :bounce: He looks soooo good! :hearts: I'm not sure I'll be able to stay faithful to Rivers in my dreams tonight. ;)

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:46 AM
Argh... I am nervous about my medical for my PR application... I've stopped drinking sodas and am drinking juice instead....sure it's nice and healthy, but it actually costs more :p

Layla
01-11-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Goodnight, Layla :wavey: You can be sure the results will be here, good or bad -- and a trophy pic :D

I won't see you until Sunday then, so you'll have a chance to catch up to me in posts ;) Have a good weekend!

Ah, that's right, you won't be here tomorrow. ;) See you on Sunday then! Have a great weekend as well!

:eek: You're way past me in posts! :eek: I didn't even notice. :( Congrats! ;)

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:49 AM
Good night, Layla! :) :wavey:

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I see. Which two types if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks for the link. :D Alright, these are new! :bounce: He looks soooo good! :hearts: I'm not sure I'll be able to stay faithful to Rivers in my dreams tonight. ;)

I eat chicken and beef (and sometimes fish but its not usually an option).

Yes, and I noticed she added more pictures since the last time I've been there, including a nice close up :)

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by Layla
:eek: You're way past me in posts! :eek: I didn't even notice. :( Congrats! ;)

You have two days to catch up to me, then I'll officially take the crown, okay? Or maybe after the Open, since you said you were going to have more time?

I told you I didn't want it.

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 12:55 AM
Allan--I've got Ol' Betsy with me, and your name is MUD! :fiery:

Sorry I missed your advice earlier. That would've made for a better entrance. :p

My new avatar :hearts:

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 12:57 AM
LMAO Marly.... was wondering when you'd see that post! :p

That's a very gooberish one... so gooberish that I'm surprised Angele didn't go for that pic, actually.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 12:59 AM
*lost*

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 01:00 AM
The only meat I actually buy to cook these days is chicken.... I always stuff up beef, the only thing I can make well with beef in it is Bolognaise sause.... when I eat out I normally go for the chicken/beef/pork trio.... I'll eat fish if it's put in front of me and I have to be polite, but I don't go looking for it. I do not eat any other forms of seafood at all.

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 01:01 AM
Well, I've got ATPworld open in two windows--one to talk here, and one open to Angele's Lleyki pic thread in the LLL--so I'm kind of slow on the uptake tonight. :p

I was surprised that QG didn't pick her favorite Wandering Hand pic for her avatar, but I guess since she BBB has one so similar, she decided to go a different route.

Oooh, I've just run across a funny pic to use as my avatar. :D

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 01:01 AM
Be specific about what confuses you, TH, and I'll fill you in. ;)

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 01:07 AM
My new avatar! :D :p

You have to read my new location--and probably be a Lleyki--to understand. :p

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 01:09 AM
I gather that your location is a caption for the picture, but ..... I don't get it. :o

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 01:17 AM
Pfffff Allan :p

Okay. At the 2001 Oz Open, Kim showed up with that massive diamond ring on her left ring (AKA wedding) finger. Some reporters were after her about it being an engagement ring, but she denied that, saying it was a birthday present. (Funny, as the Oz Open is in January and her birthday is in June, but that's a whole 'nother topic :p) So then the reporter asked why she was wearing it on her engagement finger if it wasn't an engagement ring. Kim replied that it was bad luck to wear a ring on her right hand.

BUT as you can see from my avatar (it's better to look at the pic full sized :p) at the '00 DC final in Spain, she was wearing a ring on her right hand. So it wasn't bad luck in DECEMBER, but it was in JANUARY? Yeah right.

So that pic has become known as the "Kim is a liar!" pic. :p

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 01:19 AM
Ah... I can barely make out a ring on her hand in the pic now... yeah.. it's so small that you'd have to know what to look for.

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 01:24 AM
QG, BBB, and Maz will know what it means. :p

Puss-in-Boots
01-11-2003, 01:25 AM
Where is Maz anyway? Haven't seen her post for a while.

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 01:40 AM
I have no clue what Mazza's got up to lately. Exams, maybe? :confused:

Leo7
01-11-2003, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Bye, Leo :wavey: See you again for the finals, no? We will be on opposite sides for the ladies final but I might not be here to cheer Kimmy on, it all depends on how long the mens' matches are.

yup, i'm back for the finals. i want to stay up for both men's and women's. did you know Kimmy was in the doubles final with Ai Sugiyama? those two are good together. :)

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
Peanut butter :o noy my fave thing.Maybe it was because in primary school a lad that

i never liked peanut butter either.

Vera
01-11-2003, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Leo7

the tape even included the trophy presentation after the match. :) both Ferrero and Kuerten attempted to speak in italian and i think they were pretty good. Bob Picozzi did some translations from the commentary booth during Juanqui's speech so that was nice. but i was kinda pissed b/c they cut to a commercial DURING Ferrero's speech! :eek: :fiery: but what do you expect from ESPN? :rolleyes:

What! So this is the tape you got from Tennis resources, that they give you ESPN coverage? I wonder if I can ask for a Eurosports coverage or sth like that. I'm pretty sure those Europeans would be nice enough to allow THE CHAMP's speech not to be interrupted.

Speaking about ESPN, just found that my TSN's coverage of AO is horrible. There aren't any coverage on Jan 19th (which is monday Aussie time). Isn't that the day usually with all the Men's QF actions :eek: :eek: :eek: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:. Damn, I want 24/7 tennis :sad:. And I wonder if there's any first week coverage of Juanqui's match. Just hope AA and AR lost in first round so they can spare some coverage to those real contender!

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:16 AM
RAFTER RETIREMENT Jan. 10, 2003

A Super Star and a Gentleman
Rafter was one of the most admired players the game has seen

For tennis fans in Australia and around the world, it was an announcement they feared would come, but hoped it would not. Pat Rafter has retired - officially.

Although speculation was strong that the two-time Grand Slam champion and former world No.1 would not return to the ATP circuit - the odds of a comeback grew proportionally with his absence from the game - loyal fans never fully gave up hope.

Rafter won back-to-back US Opens in 1997 and '98 and was a beaten Wimbledon finalist in 2000 and 2001. His 9-7 in the fifth set loss to Goran Ivanisevic in the 2001 final was one of the most dramatic ever played at the All England Club.

Rafter won 11 singles titles from 25 career finals. He won Tennis Masters Series titles in Canada and Cincinnati and was a Masters Series finalist on four other occasions. By reaching the Roland Garros semifinals in 1997 and the Australian Open semifinals in 2001, Rafter made it to the semifinal stage or better at the four Grand Slams.

But results alone do not reflect the impact Rafter had on the sport. A born-and-bred serve/volleyer, Rafter's athleticism and fast hands at the net thrilled fans in an era when serve/volley tennis had all but been abandoned by modern players.

Despite rising to world No.1, Rafter never lost his humility, remaining polite and friendly to all throughout his career. On the court, Rafter developed a trademark of saying "Sorry, mate" to his opponents whenever he caught his service toss.

He made large donations to charity and established his own Cherish the Children Foundation. He earned the ATP's Arthur Ashe Humanitarian Award and won the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award four times.

Rafter had not played since December 2001 when he defeated Sebastien Grosjean on the first day of the Australia-France Davis Cup final in Melbourne. Desperate to be part of a winning Davis Cup team, Rafter was unable to back up for the reverse singles and watched from the sidelines as France took the Cup 3-2.

Rafter, who was last year named Australian of the Year, is now enjoying life with partner Lara and their son Joshua, who is now five months old.

The third youngest of nine children, Rafter was born into a tight-knit family in the rugged outback Queensland mining town of Mt. Isa. From the most humble of beginnings, he rose to the pinnacle of his sport and left a mark that will long be remembered.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
yup, i'm back for the finals. i want to stay up for both men's and women's. did you know Kimmy was in the doubles final with Ai Sugiyama? those two are good together. :)

C'mon men's doubles final!! Let's get it over with!

Yes, I knew Kimmy was in the doubles final :) She could complete her own double as well as mine.

:rolleyes: Oh God, I'm watching this Nobel Peace Prize concert from last year, and J.Lo is performing -- and this is supposed to be a celebration of 2002 Peace Prize winner Jimmy Carter :eek:

It's quite amusing.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Speaking about ESPN, just found that my TSN's coverage of AO is horrible. There aren't any coverage on Jan 19th (which is monday Aussie time). Isn't that the day usually with all the Men's QF actions :eek: :eek: :eek: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:. Damn, I want 24/7 tennis :sad:. And I wonder if there's any first week coverage of Juanqui's match. Just hope AA and AR lost in first round so they can spare some coverage to those real contender!

ESPN's coverage is pretty shit, too, only enough time each day to show one or two matches :rolleyes: And I seriously doubt that Juan Carlos's matches will be shown unless he gets way deep into the second week, especially considering they will be showing ladies as well as men's matches :fiery:

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Marly
Since I've already butted into y'all's thread, I might as well say that I'm allergic to chocolate. I do like peanut butter, though, with grape jelly. :p

allergic to chocolate?! oh, you poor thing. how do you survive? :eek:

Murkofan
01-11-2003, 02:29 AM
I survive by drinking lots and lots of soda. :D

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Night Emma! Sweet dreams! :wavey:

And while I'm saying goodnight to Emma, I best say goodnight to everyone else too, because it's past my bed-time. ;)

Cheer for Juanqui in my name please! I would love to see him hold that trophy and start the year with a bang! :D

VAMOS JUANQUI! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Goodnight everyone! :wavey:

oh, too bad you can't stay up with to follow live scores. but don't worry, we'll cheer for you. :)

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Goodnight, Layla :wavey: You can be sure the results will be here, good or bad -- and a trophy pic :D

I won't see you until Sunday then, so you'll have a chance to catch up to me in posts ;) Have a good weekend!

oh, so you're going back to college again, huh? which classes are you taking this semester?

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I eat chicken and beef (and sometimes fish but its not usually an option).

Yes, and I noticed she added more pictures since the last time I've been there, including a nice close up :)

you can never go wrong with beef/steak :lick:

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
oh, so you're going back to college again, huh? which classes are you taking this semester?

Yep, my break is over tonight, so I hope it's a good ending! :)

More of the same, really -- and tennis lessons for the second half of the semester. Which reminds me, those of you who play tennis: do you have any particular brand of shoe you'd recommend? I'll just be playing casually on an outoor hard court. My coach just said "no running shoes" so . . . ?

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:42 AM
sorry, i have no idea about shoes, but that's cool that you're taking tennis lessons. i should start practicing again b/c i haven't picked up a racquet since i think October. :eek: and with the school season starting up again soon (early March) i need to practice.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 02:44 AM
i have midterm exams starting Tuesday, January 21! :( and i haven't studied at all yet.. but the week won't be so bad b/c i have off on Monday (Martin Luther Kimg Jr. Day) and also on Friday (unless i have to make up a an exam), which gives me more time to watch all the tennis of the Aussie Open 2nd week. :D and more time to study.. .

Vera
01-11-2003, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
ESPN's coverage is pretty shit, too, only enough time each day to show one or two matches :rolleyes: And I seriously doubt that Juan Carlos's matches will be shown unless he gets way deep into the second week, especially considering they will be showing ladies as well as men's matches :fiery:

Oh right. Share coverage, they have to make way for those bagel and stick first round ladies match :rolleyes:.

Now, Juanqui must get to the 2nd week. I can't imagine that we wait and wait and wait and got no coverage of Juanqui...(and that reminded me of US Open :fiery: )

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 03:01 AM
Oh man, don't mention the US Open to me :fiery::fiery: That tournament is so horribly scheduled and run :mad:

Vera
01-11-2003, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Yep, my break is over tonight, so I hope it's a good ending! :)

More of the same, really -- and tennis lessons for the second half of the semester. Which reminds me, those of you who play tennis: do you have any particular brand of shoe you'd recommend? I'll just be playing casually on an outoor hard court. My coach just said "no running shoes" so . . . ?

I just love the K-Swiss tennis shoes. But any tennis shoes will do. Never wear running shoes. I wore running shoes once playing tennis, almost twisted my ankle since the sides of the shoes are really soft and gives no support to the ankle. BTW, that's was a Reebok and I think Reebok's material is too soft in any case.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 03:03 AM
Aussie Open shift would mean more competition

by Jim Sarni
Posted January 10 2003

The Australian Open amid the sports madness of March.

It could happen as the ITF discusses changes to the tennis calendar in an effort to consolidate the Grand Slam season into seven months.

But for now, the Aussie Open kicks off the season. ESPN and ESPN2 are back with more hours than ever. And so is Mary Carillo.

ESPN, which begins a new, four-year deal Sunday night, will air 771/2 hours on its two channels, 12 percent more than last year. There is a record 43 live hours.

Better than the increased hours is the return of Carillo, the sport's best analyst, who made her name on ESPN when she started broadcasting in 1988.

Carillo, who also does tennis for CBS, left ESPN to do Wimbledon for HBO and then TNT. But now that ESPN has the French Open back (last year) and is expected to add Wimbledon this year, it's the place to be.

Carillo joins a loaded ESPN announcing lineup that includes Cliff Drysdale, Patrick McEnroe, Pam Shriver, Mary Joe Fernandez and Mal Washington. Chris Fowler, the host of College GameDay, will be an on-site host for the first time. :eek:

The Australian Open has always been a good January fit for ESPN with the women's and men's finals well-suited for Super Bowl weekend. It would get a lot more television competition in March.

An Aussie move, which has the support of Andre Agassi and Martina Navratilova, would affect the American tournaments, notably the Nasdaq-100 Open in Key Biscayne, which currently occupies the last two weeks of March, following Scottsdale and Indian Wells on the calendar.

In a revised calendar, Key Biscayne could become the first tournament of the season with the players moving west then across the Pacific.
~~~~~

i'm glad that Mary Carillo will be joining ESPN b/c i think she is a great commentator. i hope she will do some men's matches also, b/c PMac and Cliffy could use some help. but i don't want to see ESPN cover Wimbledon this year.. TNT was doing an excellent job with live coverage!

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 03:14 AM
No no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE SLAMS ON ESPN!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!

Wimbledon better not get swallowed up by them :eek: I can't lose Jim Courier and JohnnyMac and Ted Robinson! :eek::eek::eek::eek::sad:

Leo7
01-11-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
No no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE SLAMS ON ESPN!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!

Wimbledon better not get swallowed up by them :eek: I can't lose Jim Courier and JohnnyMac and Ted Robinson! :eek::eek::eek::eek::sad:

don't worry, all those guys commentate at the USO on USA. that won't change... ever. :D

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 04:25 AM
argh!! Juanqui is down in the second set!

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 04:26 AM
I need live scores! Where can I find live scores??

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 05:56 AM
Did everyone leave?

Okay then.

I guess the TH double was never destined to happen. :(

Lee
01-11-2003, 05:56 AM
*HUG* *HUG* *HUG*

for all my friends here. :sad: :sad:

He will be well rest for AO next week.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Did everyone leave?

Okay then.

I guess the TH double was never destined to happen. :(

no it was. it's just that Ferrero likes to fuck up his destiny of becoming a great player on all surfaces. :rolleyes:

Dissident
01-11-2003, 06:09 AM
He did well, people. Dont be so hard on him... Lets wait and see what happens in the Aussie.


As for Hackie´s question, if you meant to buy shoes, I´d definitely recommend Adidas. Preferably get the Barricade. You wont regret it. Worth every cent you spend on it. :D

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 06:10 AM
Vera and some others said they were going to cry -- I actually did, so hysterical I attracted attention :sad: I know for a fact that we as fans are more upset than Juan Carlos himself, because you know what was going through my mind? The fact that he lost to a qualifier and that this will just add ammo to the fire of ridicule for Juan Carlos. I also wonder what the hell he was thinking :mad: because he was up 3-0 in the third set and he was immediately down in the third set tiebreaker -- like he just gave up. And he won't be well rested because if Marat gets his wish Juanqui's half of the Aussie Open draw will play first. Damn Marat :fiery: I will never forgive him for not defaulting to Jarkko. And now I've calmed down but I'm so angry and disappointed and mad and sad. Sometimes I fucking hate being a fan.

Dissident
01-11-2003, 06:10 AM
Anyway, I going to bed. Talk to you guys tomorrow :wavey:

4 am! :eek:

Lee
01-11-2003, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
no it was. it's just that Ferrero likes to fuck up his destiny of becoming a great player on all surfaces. :rolleyes:

Oh Leo! Please don't get too upset. He's been doing pretty good so far and he is pretty tired by the 3rd set tie break, I believe. Lee has a much easier draw so far.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
As for Hackie´s question, if you meant to buy shoes, I´d definitely recommend Adidas. Preferably get the Barricade. You wont regret it. Worth every cent you spend on it. :D

Can these be found in stores or do they have to be ordered? I haven't worn Adidas shoes in a long time :o

Lee
01-11-2003, 06:12 AM
Good night Diss!

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Vera and some others said they were going to cry -- I actually did, so hysterical I attracted attention :sad: I know for a fact that we as fans are more upset than Juan Carlos himself, because you know what was going through my mind? The fact that he lost to a qualifier and that this will just add ammo to the fire of ridicule for Juan Carlos. I also wonder what the hell he was thinking :mad: because he was up 3-0 in the third set and he was immediately down in the third set tiebreaker -- like he just gave up. And he won't be well rested because if Marat gets his wish Juanqui's half of the Aussie Open draw will play first. Damn Marat :fiery: I will never forgive him for not defaulting to Jarkko. And now I've calmed down but I'm so angry and disappointed and mad and sad. Sometimes I fucking hate being a fan.

i hate being a fan too. why do i have to care so much? this time it wasn't so upsetting b/c Sydney is only a small tourney but what if this happens in a GS Final? :sad: :fiery:

suggestions to Ferrero, Davenport, and Henin: please see a sports psychologist to get stronger mentally. look how well it worked for Amelie Mauresmo. :)

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:17 AM
:wavey: bon nuit, Diss.

so are you girls staying up for the women's final with me?

Lee
01-11-2003, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Vera and some others said they were going to cry -- I actually did, so hysterical I attracted attention :sad: I know for a fact that we as fans are more upset than Juan Carlos himself, because you know what was going through my mind? The fact that he lost to a qualifier and that this will just add ammo to the fire of ridicule for Juan Carlos. I also wonder what the hell he was thinking :mad: because he was up 3-0 in the third set and he was immediately down in the third set tiebreaker -- like he just gave up. And he won't be well rested because if Marat gets his wish Juanqui's half of the Aussie Open draw will play first. Damn Marat :fiery: I will never forgive him for not defaulting to Jarkko. And now I've calmed down but I'm so angry and disappointed and mad and sad. Sometimes I fucking hate being a fan.

Hope you and Vera feel better after crying. :( :( :(

Damn Lee! I was so happy when Guga won and now I am so :sad:

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Vera and some others said they were going to cry -- I actually did, so hysterical I attracted attention :sad: I know for a fact that we as fans are more upset than Juan Carlos himself, because you know what was going through my mind? The fact that he lost to a qualifier and that this will just add ammo to the fire of ridicule for Juan Carlos. I also wonder what the hell he was thinking :mad: because he was up 3-0 in the third set and he was immediately down in the third set tiebreaker -- like he just gave up. And he won't be well rested because if Marat gets his wish Juanqui's half of the Aussie Open draw will play first. Damn Marat :fiery: I will never forgive him for not defaulting to Jarkko. And now I've calmed down but I'm so angry and disappointed and mad and sad. Sometimes I fucking hate being a fan.

Hackie .. .you're so right. :( sigh. I don't know what else to say. And that point about AO and Juanqui's quarter starting early .. aaa, that never occurred to me!! Drat!! And now I'm going to avoid my other tennis board because some people are such assholes about Juanqui, no matter how tight the last two sets were. They'll just call him a choker. The assholes. :fiery: I'll just wallow in here for the next few days.

I get way too emotional about Juanqui's wins and losses :( you're right. sucks to be a fan sometimes

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 06:20 AM
I have to finish packing so I'll be up for awhile. I don't know if I could handle watching another favorite lose :sad:

This was more upsetting for some reason, I don't know why. I guess BECAUSE it wasn't a big tournament (GS or Masters Cup) I expected him to have an easier time of it. He's been in this situation and WON, so I don't understand what happened. That's what upsets me the most.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 06:27 AM
Leo, will you keep this thread updated with the ladies? Thanks :)

Maly, join the club -- I always get way too emotionally involved in matches. The flip side is, when they win I'm happy for days on end :)

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:27 AM
1-0 Kim

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:32 AM
3-1 Kim

Lee
01-11-2003, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
Argh... I am nervous about my medical for my PR application... I've stopped drinking sodas and am drinking juice instead....sure it's nice and healthy, but it actually costs more :p

Drinking juice instead is not much better. Most juice has high sugar content as in soda. It's just has a bit more vitamin C, etc.

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
He's been in this situation and WON, so I don't understand what happened. That's what upsets me the most.

EXACTLY! EXACTLY! EXACTLY! O Juanqui. . how could you. . :sad: :sad:

And I was a wreck for DAYS after the French Open. . which, I guess, prepared me for the master's cup. But this final makes me feel worse than the MC final (but hands down, FO broke my heart). Juanqui, you'd better win AO to make this up to us!

:fiery: :fiery: Grr, it just kills me because I got into a fresh fight with some posters on another board about Juanqui today and got into this big ole long defense of him. . .and now they'll just throw this into my face (and juanqui's) tomorrow.

Hope Juanqui doesn't dwell on this and is absolutely killing at AO! I think my one consolation is that, if Juanqui had won, he would have gone into AO with people having more expectations of him and he would have had more pressure.

Sigh :( Do you guys think Juanqui DOES have a mental problem? I used to think he handled pressure so well. .

Vera
01-11-2003, 06:44 AM
Hi guys. Back from crying. Not much tears bcos I just pretty much felt that my spirit left my body and after a few drops, I kinda numb :(.

Every time he lost, I just can't stop worrying for him. I hope he don't feel too upset. I mean, it's a tight one.

This one reminded me of that lost to Portas, another lost to a Qualifier :mad:. Gosh, he needs to be more intimidating. And I can't bare to see what the media say tomorrow.

Right Maly, your other board sucks, just stay with us.

Lee
01-11-2003, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
EXACTLY! EXACTLY! EXACTLY! O Juanqui. . how could you. . :sad: :sad:

And I was a wreck for DAYS after the French Open. . which, I guess, prepared me for the master's cup. But this final makes me feel worse than the MC final (but hands down, FO broke my heart). Juanqui, you'd better win AO to make this up to us!

:fiery: :fiery: Grr, it just kills me because I got into a fresh fight with some posters on another board about Juanqui today and got into this big ole long defense of him. . .and now they'll just throw this into my face (and juanqui's) tomorrow.

Hope Juanqui doesn't dwell on this and is absolutely killing at AO! I think my one consolation is that, if Juanqui had won, he would have gone into AO with people having more expectations of him and he would have had more pressure.

Sigh :( Do you guys think Juanqui DOES have a mental problem? I used to think he handled pressure so well. .

I still believe it's more physical than mental problem.

Vera
01-11-2003, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I have to finish packing so I'll be up for awhile. I don't know if I could handle watching another favorite lose :sad:

This was more upsetting for some reason, I don't know why. I guess BECAUSE it wasn't a big tournament (GS or Masters Cup) I expected him to have an easier time of it. He's been in this situation and WON, so I don't understand what happened. That's what upsets me the most.

Bcos he's expected to win. Damnit!

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 06:47 AM
Sydney International

South Korean qualifier Lee Hyung-taik left the Sydney crowd stunned as he bounced back from a match point down to defeat world number four Juan Carlos Ferrero 4-6 7-6 7-6.

Lee wrapped up his first ever ATP Tour title after saving a match point in the third set against the far more experienced Spaniard.

The world number 85 produced some sublime ground strokes throughout the encounter, using the width of the court to trouble Ferrero.

Initially Ferrero looked at ease, taking just 29 minutes to seal the first set and looking on course for a straight sets victory before Lee upped the tempo of his game.

He had a chance to break Ferrero's serve in the eighth game but failed to capitalise as the set headed for a tie-break, in which he did enough to win.

Ferrero had a match point in the 12th game of the final set at 30-40 but he snapped at a forehand, sending it into the net.

The match then went into a deciding tie-break, which Lee wrapped up 7-4.

Vera
01-11-2003, 06:50 AM
I was hoping to avoid the press. But thx for the article anyway, Maly.

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 06:50 AM
hope Guga wins his final

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by Vera
I was hoping to avoid the press. But thx for the article anyway, Maly.

Sorry, Vera. I was just dying to know how they both played. But I'll stop now as I can't bear to read it anymore either. I am, in a small way, happy for Lee. I just wish he hadn't beat my absolute favorite.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:54 AM
4-3 Kim i guess it's back on serve

Lee
01-11-2003, 06:55 AM
Hopefully Lee will kick AA out in 2nd round of AO!

Vera
01-11-2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
Sorry, Vera. I was just dying to know how they both played. But I'll stop now as I can't bear to read it anymore either. I am, in a small way, happy for Lee. I just wish he hadn't beat my absolute favorite.

No worry. I would have cheer for Lee too if his victim wasn't Juanqui. But I tend to start hating a player after they beat him:o .

Vera
01-11-2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Lee
Hopefully Lee will kick AA out in 2nd round of AO!

He better! He made up for this :p .

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Hi guys. Back from crying. Not much tears bcos I just pretty much felt that my spirit left my body and after a few drops, I kinda numb :(.

Every time he lost, I just can't stop worrying for him. I hope he don't feel too upset. I mean, it's a tight one.

This one reminded me of that lost to Portas, another lost to a Qualifier :mad:. Gosh, he needs to be more intimidating. And I can't bare to see what the media say tomorrow.

Right Maly, your other board sucks, just stay with us.

I was literally hysterical for a good few minutes when I saw Lin's first declaration of the match. When I finally calmed down I was so tired -- I didn't realise how much energy I had expended in worrying and finally crying. Right now I feel very numb and I can't even cheer for Kimmy :(

I worry, too. Why has he not been able to get over the hump? :( I don't think he's as upset as we are -- but then again, we read the stuff you posted after Shanghai and it sounded like he was taking it pretty badly. I'm sure when it sinks in that he didn't make his move (for whatever reason) he will be upset that this effort won't be see for what it was -- coming straight out and winning 5 matches in the first week.

He seems like a very intense player. Hopefully Moya can console him again, perhaps in Melbourne :)

Maly, don't go back there. It might sound like that means they win, but you can't hold your own against a whole board. It's just not worth your time and energy. You are more than welcome to come join us, and your support really helped tonight. The Lee fans were very obnoxious, and that never helps :rolleyes:

My plan is just to lie low for the weekend and wait for it to blow over. No need to torture ourselves with the articles about the match :( Kinda glad myself that I won't be around until Sunday, which will technically be Monday in Australia . . .

Leo7
01-11-2003, 06:58 AM
i do too, Vera. i mean i still hate Lleyton so much for the Masters Cup final. :fiery:

well i guess this is sweet revenge for Lee. last time they played it was Ferrero who won it 3 sets, saving match points. this time the tables were turned.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 06:59 AM
Thanks for the scores, Leo :)

I hope Lee doesn't pull a Portas, but I believe he will (just disappear off the face of the earth).

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:00 AM
I really wish I have another user name tonight! :)

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:01 AM
5-4 Kim.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:02 AM
lol Lee. it's okay, we still love you the same. ;)

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
lol Lee. it's okay, we still love you the same. ;)

Thanks! Thanks for the score too!

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by Vera
No worry. I would have cheer for Lee too if his victim wasn't Juanqui. But I tend to start hating a player after they beat him:o .

LOL :D ! I do that too. heehee .. I held a grudge against the Morroccans for a long while b/c I felt like they kept beating Juanqui. It took me a while before I finally let myself admit that I really liked Hicham and Younes :)

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I was literally hysterical for a good few minutes when I saw Lin's first declaration of the match. When I finally calmed down I was so tired -- I didn't realise how much energy I had expended in worrying and finally crying. Right now I feel very numb and I can't even cheer for Kimmy :(

Me too. I'm just deflated completely. I went to finish watching my hockey match. My team lost and I don't even care.


I worry, too. Why has he not been able to get over the hump? :( I don't think he's as upset as we are -- but then again, we read the stuff you posted after Shanghai and it sounded like he was taking it pretty badly. I'm sure when it sinks in that he didn't make his move (for whatever reason) he will be upset that this effort won't be see for what it was -- coming straight out and winning 5 matches in the first week. [/B]

Well, TMC is understandable, it's a big tourney and a heart breaking lost. This one, I dunno, he got beaten by a Quali, not a easy thing to swallow. I just hope he's okay, that he still feel confident about his chance in AO.


He seems like a very intense player. Hopefully Moya can console him again, perhaps in Melbourne :)[/B]

And I can't believe he has a mental problem. He's pretty tough most of the time. Just too much lapse in the mid of the match though.


My plan is just to lie low for the weekend and wait for it to blow over. No need to torture ourselves with the articles about the match :( Kinda glad myself that I won't be around until Sunday, which will technically be Monday in Australia . . . [/B]

Good plan, I think I'll do that too.

TennisHack
01-11-2003, 07:07 AM
Goodnight, guys :wavey: Hang tough, we'll make it through :) And I'll definitely be in a better mood than I am right now when I return.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:07 AM
Well I must say.

I took this FAR better than some of you, which is surprising.

Buck up everybody.

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Thanks for the scores, Leo :)

I hope Lee doesn't pull a Portas, but I believe he will (just disappear off the face of the earth).

LOL! I totally forgot about Portas! ;) :p I held a grudge against him for a while too until I just plain forgot about him! Well, I hope Lee improves because then it wouldn't be like Juanqui just lost to some nobody. . Lee just has it in him sometimes. Remember his USO run until it got beat by Pete?

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:09 AM
they're saying Kim won the first set 6-4. this will be over soon i think.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:10 AM
To be honest I went on a nutsy rant for a while.

But I didn't think he would win the match after losing the second set, so I was ranting BEFORE it was over.

The ONLY good from this is less pressure, because he's been putting a lot on him.

However, this is BAD in another way. Being that Juan Carlos loses more finals that he wins.

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:11 AM
Bye TH! :wavey: Have a safe trip! See you Sunday!

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 07:11 AM
Thanks for your nice words to me about that other board, Hackie and Vera. :) I think I will just ignore them for a while.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:12 AM
yeah, now he's under 50% in finals. doesn't exactly do wonders for your confidence.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:13 AM
:wavey: see ya Hacks.

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:15 AM
Good morning all :wavey:

Don't get too upset, guys. JC just lost the final to guy who seems to be on a hot streak. Maybe too hot for anybody to handle, hey?

JC had a good week, brilliant win over Paradorn, got used to the surface and extreme conditions in AussieLand. He is not injured. He will do fine.

Take heart!

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:19 AM
Leo are you sure that he isn't below 500?

It's funny...

Just today i was rambling about how Ferrero was finally tapping into his potential blah blah, and I wasn't used to having a fave that won stuff *smirk*, and that I would have to find an up and comer to cheer for blah blah (I root for the vulnerable, not fulfilling their potential types) - so the timing of this was beautiful.

Well not exactly beautiful, but it caused major foot in mouth issues.

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:19 AM
And again, I had so much work to do this week and I cannot see any bright light in the weeks to come :mad:

Some day I will have a lot of reading to do in this thread :D. Just in case I won't have time to post intelligent (:D ) thoughts, I wish all the best to your fav players in these 2 weeks.

And go Kim. Win the final ;). Although a Lindsay win will just be fine for me as well!

Let's keep finger crossed. Big tennis is coming soon :bounce:

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 07:19 AM
I think the reason why I'm taking this so hard is because, and I know this is unfair of me, I think .. I think I really wanted him to be invincible this year. And I think he did too. .I guess, after losing the RG final and the MC final, I wanted him to charge through this year like some kind of tennis Superman, running off of drive from last year's losses. And his reaching the finals really raised my hopes . .oh! But I'm being stupid because this is just the first week.

Now I'm just worried because Juanqui does seem to take losses hard. I don't want this to affect him negatively going into AO. VAMOS! VAMOS!

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
To be honest I went on a nutsy rant for a while.

But I didn't think he would win the match after losing the second set, so I was ranting BEFORE it was over.

The ONLY good from this is less pressure, because he's been putting a lot on him.

However, this is BAD in another way. Being that Juan Carlos loses more finals that he wins.

I never thought he would lose until he lost. I mean, he always have those 2nd set lapse after winning the first one, some times too easy.

And geez, now you give me one more reason to worry. :(

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:20 AM
zosse, he always loses to the "guy on the hot streak" it seems, unfortunatly.

Which begs to be asked, why isn't it ever him? *sighs loudly*

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:22 AM
Sorry Vera. I hate to point it out and all, but how many times has he lost a final he was the fave in?

Losses to Portas, Lee, Novak, Costa...... you could throw in Corretja for good measure but nah.

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by zosse
JC had a good week, brilliant win over Paradorn, got used to the surface and extreme conditions in AussieLand. He is not injured. He will do fine.



Yes! Yes, Zosse! Great point. I am VERY happy that Juanqui is not among the ranks of the walking injured :bounce: :D So many people seem to be injured right now ..

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:22 AM
Oh, just saw this:

1st day:
Vodafone Arena:

3rd match: Franco Squillari (ARG) vs. Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP)[4]

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:22 AM
Ya, he seems to be in a hot streak too, until now :rolleyes:

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:22 AM
I'm glad that I could open up and share the negativity!

ferrerogrrl
01-11-2003, 07:23 AM
WHAT??? he's playing on the FIRST day?? grrr!! :(

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:24 AM
It would figure that he has to play Monday :rolleyes:

I'll save making my negative prediction - which I made after he lost the secnd set - for tomorrow.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:25 AM
Kim is making quick work of Lindsay. 6-4, 4-2.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Sorry Vera. I hate to point it out and all, but how many times has he lost a final he was the fave in?

Losses to Portas, Lee, Novak, Costa...... you could throw in Corretja for good measure but nah.

I guess I try not to look that clearly, sometimes it's good to be blurred. But I do know what you mean, those losts are... that's what I mean about losing to a Quali. No disrespect to them, but c'mon Juanqui can't beat a quali :rolleyes:

Even when he beat Moya so many times, he's not a clear favorite every time he beat moya, I guess that help.

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:27 AM
Oh Becca, Hackie was mad at Marat and said she would never forgive him if JC had to play on the 1st day. So if that would help, spill all the negativity on Marat. I think I can handle it, if it just makes you feel better ;)

Things will be fine.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Leo are you sure that he isn't below 500?

It's funny...

Just today i was rambling about how Ferrero was finally tapping into his potential blah blah, and I wasn't used to having a fave that won stuff *smirk*, and that I would have to find an up and comer to cheer for blah blah (I root for the vulnerable, not fulfilling their potential types) - so the timing of this was beautiful.

Well not exactly beautiful, but it caused major foot in mouth issues.

i said that he was below 500.

with so many players injured and out of form, this could be Ferrero's best chance to win a Slam all year long. and if he doesn't take it...

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by zosse
Good morning all :wavey:

Don't get too upset, guys. JC just lost the final to guy who seems to be on a hot streak. Maybe too hot for anybody to handle, hey?

JC had a good week, brilliant win over Paradorn, got used to the surface and extreme conditions in AussieLand. He is not injured. He will do fine.

Take heart!

Thanks for being the positive voice here, Zosse :) . You should have seen what it's like in here after TMC final.

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:28 AM
Kim won 6-4, 6-3 goodnight :wavey:

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:29 AM
Well I find it funny that EVERY time Ferrero and Moya play, Moya is considred the overwhelming fave regardless of surface.

Do people not check head to heads?

Anyhow I'm dissapoitned too, trust me. But I had a hunch he was going to lose somehow and was prepared to take it as a loss anyhow.

If I had expected him to win, Iguess I'd have felt different.

Then again, I also thought he'd lose the French Open final, and that one hurt, heh.

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
Kim won 6-4, 6-3 goodnight :wavey:

Good night Leo! :( Lindsay do it again! :(

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:30 AM
Sorry Leo, I can't read ;)

As for him winning Oz, I dont' see it. I didn't see it a week ago, I didn't see it a day ago, and I don't see it now.

But you aren't the only one to disagree with me ;)

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:31 AM
Congrats to Kim. Nite Leo. :wavey:

So it's Vodafone a TV coverage stadium? I mean, any chance he'll be on TV?

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
Kim won 6-4, 6-3 goodnight :wavey:

Well done! :bounce:

Kim seems to be in brilliant form. Maybe she could also handle Serena if they meet on their way to the final :cool:

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:32 AM
Sure Vera, under certain circumstances we might see him on TV...

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:32 AM
i'm always terrified when Juanqui plays Moya, even tho the H2H is overwhelmingly in Ferrero's favor. their last couple of matches have been very close and Moya had tons of chances to win both.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:33 AM
That is -

Once they are done throwing as much Andre at us as possible, if Ferrero is being upset, they will be sure to show it and say "as we expected, Ferrero is losing"

Otherwise, don't bet on it, and pray he makes the quarters or we'll see none of him.

*thinking positive*

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:33 AM
I think Juanqui has a loooooonnnnnnngggggggg way to catch up Lindsay's final record.... And he probably won't.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Well I find it funny that EVERY time Ferrero and Moya play, Moya is considred the overwhelming fave regardless of surface.

Do people not check head to heads?

Anyhow I'm dissapoitned too, trust me. But I had a hunch he was going to lose somehow and was prepared to take it as a loss anyhow.

If I had expected him to win, Iguess I'd have felt different.

Then again, I also thought he'd lose the French Open final, and that one hurt, heh.

That's come to the fact that ppl still don't get any faith in Juanqui. But then again, I don't blame them some times.

Winning AO will be a dream. I give him 50/50. Being that he's pretty in form and that it's not a tourney that he's supposed to win. I won't write him out. His chance is as legit as, I dunno, errrr, Hewitt (since Hewitt probably can't handle the favoring crowd).

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Thanks for being the positive voice here, Zosse :) . You should have seen what it's like in here after TMC final.

Oh, I guess it comes from my misery: minus 20C outside, Marat with crippled shoulder, too much work - just to start with :mad:

And when Marat loses, I just try not to post... to avoid get me banned or hated by other posters :o

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Lee
Good night Leo! :( Lindsay do it again! :(

nah, i'm just happy that she didn't choke that she has in her past 4 finals. this time she just got creamed, and i can live with that. :) congrats kim.. now take the doubles title with ai sugiyama! :bounce:

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:35 AM
He also has a lloooonnngg way to catch up to any of the good things that Lindsay has done, so her finals record is sort of balanced by that.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
That is -

Once they are done throwing as much Andre at us as possible, if Ferrero is being upset, they will be sure to show it and say "as we expected, Ferrero is losing"

Otherwise, don't bet on it, and pray he makes the quarters or we'll see none of him.

*thinking positive*

Maybe I shouldn't wish them showing him then. I still think that they did it on purpose in Wimby. Putting him on Centre court in round 2 with TV coverage just to jinx him.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:37 AM
Well I would say Hewitt's chances are far far far far better, because he's about 2000 times better mentally.

Though I would LOVE to be wrong. I really would be.

Difference of opinion, dont mind me.

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:38 AM
OK, throw in an old pic of Kim. This is from her semi win over Justine.

http://photo.eastday.com/epublish/gb/paper5/20030111/class000500004/image/img863645_2.jpg

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:38 AM
lol about them doing the Wimbledon bit on purpose.

The best thing about Wimbledon though ,was that no one could logically attack him for losing in round two.

Because if they did we could say - "well he lasted longer than Federer", "well he lasted as long as Andre and Pete" etc etc

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by zosse
Oh, I guess it comes from my misery: minus 20C outside, Marat with crippled shoulder, too much work - just to start with :mad:

And when Marat loses, I just try not to post... to avoid get me banned or hated by other posters :o

:) :) :) you're wise, zosse. Putting thing into perspective is never my strength :o .

Leo7
01-11-2003, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
He also has a lloooonnngg way to catch up to any of the good things that Lindsay has done, so her finals record is sort of balanced by that.

oh, but i'm impressed with how well he's taking after Lindsay in the choking department. or is she taking after him?

well i guess i'm not tired anymore cuz i'm so angry so i might as well stay up some more (and play pacman :D).

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:40 AM
And trying to lighten things up a little bit here..

Anyone know when Rafter broke his nose or it's just the angel?

http://photo.eastday.com/epublish/gb/paper5/20030110/class000500004/image/img863182_1.jpg

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:41 AM
Isn't it cute how I started this thread with "I'm taking it far better than some of you" and have done nothing but spread negativity since?

I've always had an internal feeling that Ferrero might be the next Corretja. I could elaborate, but I think it's obvious where I am going with that.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
lol about them doing the Wimbledon bit on purpose.

The best thing about Wimbledon though ,was that no one could logically attack him for losing in round two.

Because if they did we could say - "well he lasted longer than Federer", "well he lasted as long as Andre and Pete" etc etc

But with Andre and Pete's lost, they still made it a big deal that Juanqui got beaten by Jeff Morrison. That's so unfair. Under the circumstance (that he still looked completely deflated by RG), that he still sorta injured, that he's only played on faked grass, and whatever fucking reasons I can think of, I can't think that it's much of an upset.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:43 AM
Lee - I think it's the angle and lighting.

I'd never noticed that before.

vaiva
01-11-2003, 07:43 AM
Well, I have to go back to work :mad:

I just wish Eurosport would show more men matches. Many girls look great in their new outfits but I don't think I can handle all these Ladies in Red for more than 3 hours. Too much asking for my aging eyes :D

See you soon :wavey:

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:45 AM
His nose definitely looks like those hockey players who are famous with broken nose.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Isn't it cute how I started this thread with "I'm taking it far better than some of you" and have done nothing but spread negativity since?

I just swear and I feel better :). So negativity is good :D.


I've always had an internal feeling that Ferrero might be the next Corretja. I could elaborate, but I think it's obvious where I am going with that. [/B]

No no no. I refuse to believe that he's another Alex. Alex never really look feisty to me. But Juanqui does, some times.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:45 AM
Bye zosse :wavey:

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by zosse
Well, I have to go back to work :mad:

I just wish Eurosport would show more men matches. Many girls look great in their new outfits but I don't think I can handle all these Ladies in Red for more than 3 hours. Too much asking for my aging eyes :D

See you soon :wavey:

Good night, Zosse. If you ever got to watch this JC final on tv, can you tell us how he played actually? Maybe I feel better if I know he didn't throw it away. But if he did, oh well, tell us anyway.

:wavey:

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:48 AM
Bye zosse! :wavey:

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:48 AM
Vera - I'm not trying to bug you with my comments.. like I know you are dissapointed at the moment and I don't mean to sound like I'm ragging on about him.

I mean, as much as I could adore a tennis player who I don't even know, I simply adore him - like nothing I say is intended to be taking him down.

But the way I've been talking, is just how I feel. Which bothers me, because of course I would love him to prove me otherwise.

Anyhow - I'm not sure I will follow his Oz match (es) live. Quite frankly I've became way to "attached" and don't think that it's very healthy for me.

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:50 AM
Vera, this is very humiliating.

http://mirror.media.canada.com/cp/20030110/86ba0601-8b5c-47f8-bbb1-b6368b8d0bdf.jpg

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:51 AM
So what exactly will happen to Campbell anyhow?

Will he have to resign?

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Vera - I'm not trying to bug you with my comments.. like I know you are dissapointed at the moment and I don't mean to sound like I'm ragging on about him.

I mean, as much as I could adore a tennis player who I don't even know, I simply adore him - like nothing I say is intended to be taking him down.

But the way I've been talking, is just how I feel. Which bothers me, because of course I would love him to prove me otherwise.

Anyhow - I'm not sure I will follow his Oz match (es) live. Quite frankly I've became way to "attached" and don't think that it's very healthy for me.

Oh no, Becca. I don't think you are. And your comment don't bug me at all. It's more like a nice healthy discussion. I mean, I love that guy, but I can't see I have complete confident in him either. I see that he has a lot of weakness as well as strength. If I'm single-minded on anything, that would be that he's a good person no matter what happen to his tennis.

No one here who talks about Ferrero bothers me, only those ppl outside this forum bothers me when they just try to insult him without any facts. But here, we are all fans and I think it's quite good that we can talk about him in an objective way.

Lee
01-11-2003, 07:53 AM
It's just a DUI charge and I guess the rate Canadians charged with DUI, he will be fine.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:55 AM
Gosh, Campbell is a fucking idiot. Drank driving.

There's no premier in BC that can last a term without incriminating himself. What the hell is wrong with this province :mad:.

Vera
01-11-2003, 07:56 AM
But I don't want him to resign. NDP again will just drive me out of this province.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:58 AM
Is it that bad?

For a breif period I was SERIOUSLY debating shipping myself out west to work some lame job, than finish my schooling.

Chloe le Bopper
01-11-2003, 07:59 AM
Anyhow I'm tired.

I've exhausted myself to the point that I worried myself about Squillari (good lord, if he loses to Franco, we will never hear the end).

So goodnight all.

:kiss:

Lee
01-11-2003, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Vera
But I don't want him to resign. NDP again will just drive me out of this province.

I don't think NDP will be back to power soon. See, Albertans still hate Liberal since Troudeau's Liberal era..

Lee
01-11-2003, 08:03 AM
Goodnight Becca! :wavey:

Vera
01-11-2003, 08:03 AM
NDP was evil, nearly run the province down to the bottom of the ocean. You know, those stupid union had supported NDP for ages and allowed them to piss away money. Their last term, they build a boat that costs 2 or 3 billions and then they can't even run it now, sitting on the dock and costing 250 millions for maintenance. We've been joking about putting that boat on eBay.

Campbell's liberals is supposed to make it better. Well, then, they elected him and refused to let him do his job. I said it here before, that ppl wants things to be better but don't want any sacrifice. So now, they are making a major opposition force against Campbell. And now this. He's setting himself up for failure. But I still like his politic though. NDP is no way, too old-fashioned and doesn't fit the market theory. I can't see any future if NDP comes back.

But besides that, BC is great to live. If you come to look for a job, then, you are better off in the East, for sure.