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Leo7
09-05-2002, 03:21 AM
LOL @ Lindsay's comment! i just love that girl!:hearts:

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 03:58 AM
::sneaks back in::

C'mon, Max!! He's down 2 sets to 1 now. FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!!

I feel your pain, Leo, but it will immediately get better. I also understand your aversion to work when there is tennis going on. I find my mind wandering as I try to read for my classes. But what I put off today will come back to bite me tomorrow.

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 03:59 AM
BTW, we're still on page 38 in my settings . . . how many pages is the Lleyki thread by your estimation, then?!

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 01:53 PM
:wavey: Morning, everyone!

Well, Max lost to Agassi last night :mad: :rolleyes: but he put up a nice fight, 4 sets. I can't wait to see all of the match. I watched the first five games and it was really good. If I recall correctly, indeed, there were many more winners than unforced errors in that match. Always nice to hear :) But, alas, the semifinals are even worse than I could have imagined: Hewitt/Agassi and probably Gonzo/Sampras or Roddick. Yuck. :(

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 01:55 PM
Hahaha, just looking at the schedule and Gonzalez/Schalken is on Arthur Ashe after two doubles matches.

The US Open schedulers are still wankers, even without the rain.

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 02:03 PM
Match Summary-- Mirnyi vs Agassi

1st Serve %
Mirnyi 91 of 144 = 63%
Agassi 81 of 126 = 64%

Aces
Mirnyi 19
Agassi 8

Double Faults
Mirnyi 7
Agassi 5

Unforced Errors
Mirnyi 30
Agassi 28

Winning % on 1st Serve
Mirnyi 62 of 91 = 68%
Agassi 62 of 81 = 77%

Winning % on 2nd Serve
Mirnyi 26 of 53 = 49%
Agassi 26 of 45 = 58%

Winners (Including Service)
Mirnyi 67
Agassi 74

Break Point Conversions
Mirnyi 2 of 2 = 100%
Agassi 5 of 16 = 31%

Net Approaches
Mirnyi 76 of 149 = 51%
Agassi 20 of 23 = 87%

Total Points Won
Mirnyi 126
Agassi 144

Fastest Serve
Mirnyi 132 MPH
Agassi 122 MPH

Average 1st Serve Speed
Mirnyi 119 MPH
Agassi 101 MPH

Average 2nd Serve Speed
Mirnyi 97 MPH
Agassi 85 MPH

So, all in all a good match. Winners/Unforced Errors--Mirnyi had 67/30 and Agassi was 74/28. Max also broke twice, each time on the first break point. Unfortunately, he didn't take quite as good care of his own serve, being broken 5 times :( But let's look on the bright side--Max is 25, and this is only his first Grand Slam singles quarterfinal!! He has done nothing but steadily improve over the years :)

And he's still in the doubles, playing both his quarterfinal and possible semifinal matches today. :rolleyes: at another scheduler's nightmare.

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 02:05 PM
Woohoo, 1300 posts!!

Wait . . . is that good, or does it just go to show what a big dork I am? :o

Layla
09-05-2002, 02:34 PM
Morning TH! :wavey:

1300 posts :bounce: that's a good thing. ;) Of course you're not a dork (otherwise I'd be Queen Dorkette :o )

Too bad Max lost. :sad: But I'm watching the replay of their match right now and it is truly great, very enjoyable. Max put up quite a fight, I'm sure his rankings are bound to improve in the future. :)

So at least we got one highly enjoyable quarter-final match. :)

Layla
09-05-2002, 02:43 PM
Leo that sounds just horrible. :eek: We always had a pretty easy first week, slowly adjusting to classes and studying, and that's the way it should be IMO. No need to go overboard the first day. :rolleyes: Anyway, I hope you get through it without too much trouble. :) I know how much you hate oral presentation. ;)

ILR
09-05-2002, 05:01 PM
Ah I know how you feel because I have a GCSE oral English assessment coming up this week or next!Good luck luv! :kiss:
I hate stuff like that and Im already snowed under with hwk!Hey Ive just had a thought(amazing I know) Im in my last year so Ill leave school at 15.:eek:How old will be when u leave?

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Morning TH! :wavey:

1300 posts :bounce: that's a good thing. ;) Of course you're not a dork (otherwise I'd be Queen Dorkette :o )

Too bad Max lost. :sad: But I'm watching the replay of their match right now and it is truly great, very enjoyable. Max put up quite a fight, I'm sure his rankings are bound to improve in the future. :)

So at least we got one highly enjoyable quarter-final match. :)

LOL, http://www.stopstart.btinternet.co.uk/sm/notworthy.gif to the Queen, you peons!!

I'm going to get all of my tapes, probably after the DC semifinal ties, and just have a tennis watching fest. The only good thing about watching the US Open is that they tend to skip around and look in on different matches, so it won't be totally boring.

I actually had my tapes stopped during the rain delays (well, on Sunday at least) and then I hear they were showing classic matches!! Damn!! I love watching my old Wimbly tapes for just that reason. :rolleyes: at myself. Here I was, hoping to avoid the replay of all of the Sampras/Agassi matches, and instead they were showing relatively good stuff.

Oh, and Max is going to be in at least the Top 25 next week, thanks to this run. Very exiciting!!!

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Leo that sounds just horrible. :eek: We always had a pretty easy first week, slowly adjusting to classes and studying, and that's the way it should be IMO. No need to go overboard the first day. :rolleyes: Anyway, I hope you get through it without too much trouble. :) I know how much you hate oral presentation. ;)

I always felt very overwhelmed on my first day back to classes, but it usually evened out. Mostly, all that worrying for nothing. I mean, you aren't going to have a blank fill-in-the-elements test in chem, are you? That's stupid. They just want to intimidate you http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/teeth.gif

Once you get over the first hump of a paper, or a presentation, it's usually back to normal.

Layla
09-05-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


LOL, http://www.stopstart.btinternet.co.uk/sm/notworthy.gif to the Queen, you peons!!

I'm going to get all of my tapes, probably after the DC semifinal ties, and just have a tennis watching fest. The only good thing about watching the US Open is that they tend to skip around and look in on different matches, so it won't be totally boring.


LMAO! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/lol.gif

Oh, you're going to have so much fun. :) Some of the 1st and 2nd round matches were terrific. I wish I had taped them for rainy days (read the whole tennis-free September). :(

Layla
09-05-2002, 08:04 PM
Grrrrrrr. Schalken lost the first set in a tie-break and he was 5-1 up (in the tie-break that is). :eek: On the set point, Gonzo was incredibly lucky with the net cord. So unfair. :fiery:

GO SJENG!!! You're returning his monster shots so well. I know you can do this! :bounce:

Layla
09-05-2002, 08:39 PM
YES!!!! Schalken took the second set 6-3 and had breakpoints on every Gonzo's serve! :bounce:

Gonzalez's game really dropped in the last few games. I hope it stays that way, because Sjeng is still going strong.

I realize I'm talking to myself here but I don't mind. Hope the rest of you don't either. ;)

Layla
09-05-2002, 09:20 PM
And Schalken wins set number 3 as well!!! :bounce:

I really like this guy. It would be so great to see him in the semi-finals of the USO. :)

This set wasn't so spectacular though. And the wind is blowing quite hard.

Vera
09-05-2002, 09:26 PM
Hey Layla. How's it going?

It's awefully boring the days w/o JC and his tennis to talk about, don't you think?

I'm watching Sjeng too. I'm rooting for him cos I can't really forgive Gonzo for knocking JC off. But then, it makes me mad that Gonzo played so aweful, I mean, he could have play awefully when he played JC. Then, I would be watching JC right now facing Sjeng. Then ppl wonders, how come this guy beat JC, he's not even that good!! You know what I mean?

But looking ahead, I must say I do want Gonzo to win, in case Roddick beat Pete tonite, I think Gonzo has a better chance to overcome Roddick.

Then again, if Sjeng wins and went all the way to the final, man, I would love that. Cos that would be the worse nightmare for the Open and the TV. Hehehe!

Layla
09-05-2002, 09:45 PM
Hi Vera! :wavey:

It definitely isn't the same now that Juanqui is no longer around. ;) But there's still some conversation left in us, don't you think? :)

Gonzalez is has a fantastic talent and power, so it's not surprising that he can beat great players. I think people will be mentioning his name a lot in the future. But he is very inconsistent and he kinda lost himself in the middle of this match. Unfortunately, he seems to have found himself again and Schalken is in serious trouble now. If Gonzo can keep this up, he can win. :(

You're right about Sjeng ruining the Open though. LMAO! The worst nightmare for certain Americans. But all the more joy for me. :)

Vera
09-05-2002, 09:54 PM
Ya, Gonzo is just so powerful. I don't dislike him that much, just mad at him. He got broken back in the 4th, now he's lost it again, John just said. But they are on serve.

Personally, I don't mind Gonzo or Sjeng to go to final. I don't think I will be watching the final if it's all Americans. I mean, I can't keep my interest if I don't know who to root for. And I don't like any of the Americans left in the draw. But I will be watching if is Sjeng or Gonzo against Andre or Hewitt. Cos I know who I would ike to win.

Layla
09-05-2002, 10:15 PM
I'm mad at him too. :mad: Especially right now. He just won the 4th set. :fiery: Sjeng can really crumble under pressure in the deciding moments. He double faulted twice in the tie-breaker, yet he never double faulted the whole match. This is just too depressing. He was 5-4 up on his serve. If he only served out those two points, this would all be over, but he lost both points and now Gonzalez has more than a good chance to win after all. :(

Btw, I don't like any of the Americans left in the draw either. In fact, I only like James. This is strange because in some other sports my faves are often Americans. Oh well.

TennisHack
09-05-2002, 10:20 PM
Gonzo won the fourth set?! DAMMIT! I was looking for Gasquet's result (he won again :)) and saw that Sjeng was more or less in control of the match. He gave me hope that he would win the match, and now he's going to let me down. Grr.

Vera
09-05-2002, 10:22 PM
Ya, it's too bad. Sjeng has quite a bad 5-set record. I still remembered those 17-15 game lost in Wimbly in the past. He just isn't looking good at the moment.

I like James too. I think the very pro-American tennis TV is making me dislike most of the American tennis players very much. Also, most of the time when I watch a big event, I just hope all the Americans face each other and lost in the 1st round. Because that's the only chance that I got to watch other players from the other nations. In the women side though is different because the best are all Americans so it's hard to not like any of them. So I do like Monica and Lindsey.

Vera
09-05-2002, 10:28 PM
Oh, I like Chanda too. She's very skillful and tactical. Just a very smart overall player.

Layla
09-05-2002, 10:31 PM
Oh of course, in the women's section my faves are Lindsay, Monica and Kimmy, so yes. But I don't think I would've liked Roddick even if he wasn't so overhyped. He's so obnoxious.

Vera
09-05-2002, 10:42 PM
Wow, Sjeng just played a beautiful cross court winner. Hey, he's still looking good.

Vera
09-05-2002, 10:49 PM
Roddick is exceptionally bad. I can understand his overhype. Apparently, the network and everyone in USTA knows they badly needed to have a player up there to get the Americans to watch tennis. It's extremely annoying but it's understandable. But Roddick is such a spoiled brag and he's getting more and more popularity and I think he believes that he must act this way so ppl will like him. It seems that the more he's being obnoxious, the crowd is more excited. That's what I don't understand. Anyway, lately, Roddick is really pissing me off so I just can't stop venting about him. I've been telling myself to just ignore him because like it or not, he will be around, he will behave like this, for a very long time.

Vera
09-05-2002, 10:54 PM
OMG, Sjeng won!! Yahoo!!!!!

Layla
09-05-2002, 10:56 PM
Schalken won!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

OMG, I love him so much right now!!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

He won in a tie-break in the 5th set. :eek: How tight is that!

Vera
09-05-2002, 10:57 PM
That should be a great confident boost.

Layla
09-05-2002, 10:59 PM
Vera you have expressed my very thoughts about Andy. There's not much I can add to that. I have to make peace with the idea that he'll be a top 10 player even though it's hard. Andy-lovers believe we dislike him because we're jealous of his success. LMAO! How can you be jealous of such a twat. His success upsets me because I don't really want to see him around and if he keeps winning, I'm bound to. :(

Vera
09-05-2002, 11:08 PM
I can't tell why they like him. But for those don't like him, it's definitely not jealous. He's not that well accomplished. Well, unless he did what Hewitt did last year. Then I'll shut up. Hewitt was 20 yrs old last year. But can you imagine if Roddick becomes more successful! I might have to give up watching tennis or move to Europe. :rolleyes:

Vera
09-05-2002, 11:11 PM
I'm just so proud to be Ferrero fan. He's so likable. Can you imagine liking someone everyone else hate! That would be so sad.

Layla
09-05-2002, 11:15 PM
Well I can imagine it, because my other faves include Tim, Lleyton and Greg, who are definitely not universally loved to put it mildly. But it's not as hard as it may seem. ;)

Still, Ferrero by far my number one fave so that makes my life a little easier. :)

Vera
09-05-2002, 11:37 PM
What do you think about those S. American players? I admire them, they seems to be more versatile. I mean, I love the spanishs, but I wonder if it's because they are all known as successful clay-courters that they just don't believe they can be good on any other surfaces (Despite the occasional wins like Moya just did in Cincy). Or if their games are really too clay-court style to have much success in other surface? But the S. Americans are just getting so good at whatever surface, I mean, like Gonzo, Chela and Canas to say a few. Then you have Guga who has an impressive run on hard court last year. I keep wondering if it's a matter of style or beliefs. Nonetheless, I like what they did to the tennis world, proving that clay-courter is indeed all-court player.

Layla
09-05-2002, 11:54 PM
It's probably a little bit of both, but I believe these divisions will soon break down. As for the South Americans, they're really having a cracker of a year. It's great for tennis, but come to think of it, none of them is really in my group of faves. I like some of them a lot, Guga obviously and Chela and Lapentti, but some like Canas and Rios get on my nerves a bit. I have no idea why they are doing so well on both clay courts and hard courts (and grass apparently, let's not forget Wimby). I'm not an expert so someone else will have to answer that question. :o

Layla
09-05-2002, 11:56 PM
Ok I'm going to bed, happy that Schalken won. :D Congratulations once again, Sjeng.

Good night everyone. :wavey:

Vera
09-06-2002, 12:00 AM
Good night!:wavey:

Leo7
09-06-2002, 12:33 AM
Good night!:wavey:

Leo7
09-06-2002, 12:43 AM
GO SJENG! he played a spectacular match today and i'll have to cheer him on to the Finals! i thought he lost it after dropping the 4th set tiebreak 7-5, but he regrouped and won it in the final set tiebreak!:)

:bounce: SCHALKEN! :bounce:

Leo7
09-06-2002, 12:46 AM
so today's Chem quiz wasn't as difficult as i had thought. it was fill-in-the-blanks, TH, but only 36 elements were on the test!:) anyway, tomorrow i have an English test on A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, which turned out to be a decent book! the first 200 pages or so were boring as hell, but i fell in love with one of the characters!:hearts:

Leo7
09-06-2002, 12:50 AM
:kiss: to ILR! i haven't talked to you in a while!:( damn school!:fiery:

CONGRATS to Hackie on your 1300 posts!:)

hey Layla, have you gotten over Juanqui's loss yet? cheer up girl!;) :kiss:

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 01:51 AM
AAUGH!! I just saw the scoreline for Sjeng Schalken--kick ass! I'm totally on his bandwagon now, LOL :)

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Roddick is exceptionally bad. I can understand his overhype. Apparently, the network and everyone in USTA knows they badly needed to have a player up there to get the Americans to watch tennis. It's extremely annoying but it's understandable. But Roddick is such a spoiled brag and he's getting more and more popularity and I think he believes that he must act this way so ppl will like him. It seems that the more he's being obnoxious, the crowd is more excited. That's what I don't understand. Anyway, lately, Roddick is really pissing me off so I just can't stop venting about him. I've been telling myself to just ignore him because like it or not, he will be around, he will behave like this, for a very long time.

Okay, I'll admit it :o I am/was a Roddick fan. I liked him a lot last year, before he was the darling of the media's eye. I remember sitting up and watching the RG match when it was being played again at 2 am, and thinking "Wow!! Will he or won't he retire?!" It was a great match, even if it did become WAAAAAY frickin overplayed :rolleyes: You have to admit, it's amazing that he was still playing challengers at the beginning of the year, then had a breakout performance on clay, of all surfaces.

But even I'll admit that he's gotten on my nerves a lot lately, pulling the drama queen shit at TMS Canada . . . and he's attracted the worst sort of fan: the fickle, "OMG he's such a hottie!" what the hell is a forehand? teenybopper kind of fan. If anything, the fans have turned me off more than anything he's particularly done lately. The media, the fans, everyone overhypes him and he's finally bought into it after resisting for a year. It's sad, but I have moved on to bigger and better things--and I never lost sight of the truly great and wonderfully nice players, like the one whose forum I'm writing in now :)

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Layla
As for the South Americans, they're really having a cracker of a year. It's great for tennis, but come to think of it, none of them is really in my group of faves. I like some of them a lot, Guga obviously and Chela and Lapentti, but some like Canas and Rios get on my nerves a bit. I have no idea why they are doing so well on both clay courts and hard courts (and grass apparently, let's not forget Wimby). I'm not an expert so someone else will have to answer that question. :o

First of all, how could anybody hate Guga? I mean, besides the fact that he occasionally defeats Ferrero :D His game, his demeanor, his whole personality is just too sunny and easygoing to not like.

The South Americans, particularly the Argentines, are really having a banner year. There are so many good young players, and they are strong on all surfaces. I think a reason we are seeing them do well on clay and hard is because they are playing regularly on both. Obviously not so much grass, though there are a few grass courts in Argentina, but the traditional clay court game hasn't been emphasized as much, I'd think. I mean, most of the season is hard courts, so why wouldn't they play and drill regularly on hard courts?

Plus, there are so many other things going wrong in Latin America right now, I suppose people can't help but turn to their sports heros. Nalbandian was given more than a hero's welcome after his Wimbly final, for instance. With the world crumbling around them, I suppose people need something constant to hold on to, and fan support never hurts :)

Just my two cents, though.

Sorry I missed the original conversation, it would have been really interesting!

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
so today's Chem quiz wasn't as difficult as i had thought. it was fill-in-the-blanks, TH, but only 36 elements were on the test!:) anyway, tomorrow i have an English test on A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, which turned out to be a decent book! the first 200 pages or so were boring as hell, but i fell in love with one of the characters!:hearts:

See, I told you it wouldn't be as bad as you were worrying ;) I'm no science whiz, but chemistry, I got.

LOL!! You were sooo complaining about that book just a few weeks ago. All you had to do was give it a chance, and look what happens--you find :hearts: love!! :hearts:

Vera
09-06-2002, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


First of all, how could anybody hate Guga? I mean, besides the fact that he occasionally defeats Ferrero :D His game, his demeanor, his whole personality is just too sunny and easygoing to not like.

The South Americans, particularly the Argentines, are really having a banner year. There are so many good young players, and they are strong on all surfaces. I think a reason we are seeing them do well on clay and hard is because they are playing regularly on both. Obviously not so much grass, though there are a few grass courts in Argentina, but the traditional clay court game hasn't been emphasized as much, I'd think. I mean, most of the season is hard courts, so why wouldn't they play and drill regularly on hard courts?

Plus, there are so many other things going wrong in Latin America right now, I suppose people can't help but turn to their sports heros. Nalbandian was given more than a hero's welcome after his Wimbly final, for instance. With the world crumbling around them, I suppose people need something constant to hold on to, and fan support never hurts :)

Just my two cents, though.

Sorry I missed the original conversation, it would have been really interesting!

Hi Th. Just saw Pete finished off Roddick. Now I can rest easy knowing that JC will remained in the 5th place after USO.

You are right, Guga is way too nice. I wasn't even mad at him for beating JC in RG. Though I hope he won't do it again.

Well, I always believe that successful ppl deals better with adversity than normal ppl. I think that's what happen to the Argi. In a country full of turmoils, there's those extra motivation to do well outside to bring more pride to their own ppl.

I also heard the other day that someone mentioned that Chela has a flatter stroke than the usual clay-courter so he is able to do well on hard. I wonder if that's the case, then why aren't the other tries to do that. But then, when you played so much better on clay with those topspin, you really don't want to change too much to hurt your chances on your favorite surface, I suppose. Anyway, I play a little bit tennis so I really want to understand these technical stuffs sometimes.

Anyway, now that Pete got thru, I do like the chance of Sjeng. I somehow thinks he would play better against Pete than Andy. :)

Leo7
09-06-2002, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


See, I told you it wouldn't be as bad as you were worrying ;) I'm no science whiz, but chemistry, I got.

LOL!! You were sooo complaining about that book just a few weeks ago. All you had to do was give it a chance, and look what happens--you find :hearts: love!! :hearts:

i did complain alot, didn't i? but Francie, the protagonist, has a great personality and i just love her!:hearts:

why don't you check out the Schalken Cheering Thread over on the Dutch Forum?!:D

and :bounce: for Pete! he played a terrific match, getting off to a 3-0 lead and never looking back! i was so relieved when Andy lost cuz i still want Juanqui to win his first Slam before A-Rod.

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
i was so relieved when Andy lost cuz i still want Juanqui to win his first Slam before A-Rod.

Roland Garros 2003 has Juan Carlos's name written all over it, baby.

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Vera
I also heard the other day that someone mentioned that Chela has a flatter stroke than the usual clay-courter so he is able to do well on hard. I wonder if that's the case, then why aren't the other tries to do that. But then, when you played so much better on clay with those topspin, you really don't want to change too much to hurt your chances on your favorite surface, I suppose. Anyway, I play a little bit tennis so I really want to understand these technical stuffs sometimes.

LOL, I'm horrible at playing, will eventually take lessons. Sorry I didn't give you the answer you were looking for :o

Vera
09-06-2002, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


LOL, I'm horrible at playing, will eventually take lessons. Sorry I didn't give you the answer you were looking for :o

No no no. I think you bring up a good point about the problems in Latin America. :)

I'm not very good in tennis. I love to play, though haven't play for 3 years since I got my back hurt. :(

Dissident
09-06-2002, 05:00 AM
Vera, its really tough to just go from topspin to flat. :eek:
The topspin is a wonderfu tecnic. You can hit the crap out of the ball and it will still land in, and you make your opponent go back in the court and/or hit the ball out of his confort zone(shoulder level). Its a major factor on beating some players like, say, Hewitt.

Chela indeed has flatter groundies, which suits more the attacking style demanded on hard courts. On the other hand, Carlos Moya has an extreme WESTERN grip, uses spin a lot and he still can succeed on hard courts! :eek:
Its kind of simplistic from the authors to say that a player does well on hard court because their strokes are flatter. Its definitely a possible reason, but for sure its not fundamental.
:)
Geesh, sorry for rambling for so long. ;)

Dissident
09-06-2002, 05:02 AM
As for liking Greg, as Layla said its a tough call.
Now even worse when he says his main goal on his tennis is to get more arrogance. And all those words detracting Pete. :rolleyes:
As Andre said, comments from someone who lost 9 in 10 matches to Pete. :p

Vera
09-06-2002, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Vera, its really tough to just go from topspin to flat. :eek:
The topspin is a wonderfu tecnic. You can hit the crap out of the ball and it will still land in, and you make your opponent go back in the court and/or hit the ball out of his confort zone(shoulder level). Its a major factor on beating some players like, say, Hewitt.

Chela indeed has flatter groundies, which suits more the attacking style demanded on hard courts. On the other hand, Carlos Moya has an extreme WESTERN grip, uses spin a lot and he still can succeed on hard courts! :eek:
Its kind of simplistic from the authors to say that a player does well on hard court because their strokes are flatter. Its definitely a possible reason, but for sure its not fundamental.
:)
Geesh, sorry for rambling for so long. ;)

Hmmm, I see. Thanks for the info, Hitman.
Not entirely changing from topspin to flat, but you can still hit a ball flat with a western, can you? Well, don't mind me. I have a western grip because I like to hit topspin. But my skill level is not good enough to hit anything more than that. :o But I do like to learn more. Even I can't play right now, I like to know how the player do that :)

Anyway, in your opinion then, do you think spanish players have the skills to win in hard court in a consistent basis? We see Moya did that but it's really his second hard court title in his 7/8 years. Of course I'm more concern about if JC can do that. He won Dubai, but it seems that Dubai is super friendly to Spanish players so I wonder if Dubai has a slow hard court.

Vera
09-06-2002, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by hitman
As for liking Greg, as Layla said its a tough call.
Now even worse when he says his main goal on his tennis is to get more arrogance. And all those words detracting Pete. :rolleyes:
As Andre said, comments from someone who lost 9 in 10 matches to Pete. :p

Greg said that:eek: :eek: :eek:

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 01:26 PM
Greg is an ass, what can I say.

Err, besides morning, all :wavey:? :)

Thanks for the tips, hitman. I feel like such a novice :o

Layla
09-06-2002, 02:56 PM
Morning TH! :wavey:

I'm in a bit of a rotten mood today, because I've gotten myself into a stupid fight at the gotennis board. I'm so mad at myself for not being able to keep my big mouth shut, but I've been reading the thread in question for several days and the anger was just building up until I couldn't take it anymore. Stupid, stupid me. :o

But I'm sure I'll calm down soon. I was happy to hear Pete spanked Roddick last night. :D Now I will actually be able to enjoy both semi-final matches. Go Sjeng! :)

Layla
09-06-2002, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by hitman
As for liking Greg, as Layla said its a tough call.
Now even worse when he says his main goal on his tennis is to get more arrogance. And all those words detracting Pete. :rolleyes:
As Andre said, comments from someone who lost 9 in 10 matches to Pete. :p

Yes, Greg's comments were awful, no excuses for that. But I think there's a context to it. Apparently, Greg was furious at Pete's dismissive comments about him after one of their matches when Pete won. Don't ask me which one, I don't know. The commentator mentioned this during their match and that was before the press-conference occured, so I just put two and two together. It seems obvious that this was Greg's revenge, as immature as that is. :rolleyes: He appeared even more ridiculous beacuse at the moment Pete is playing great tennis. And I shudder to think what his attitude will be like when he "stops respecting" his opponents. How much less respect can he show to them? :eek:

Layla
09-06-2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


First of all, how could anybody hate Guga? I mean, besides the fact that he occasionally defeats Ferrero :D His game, his demeanor, his whole personality is just too sunny and easygoing to not like.

Plus, there are so many other things going wrong in Latin America right now, I suppose people can't help but turn to their sports heros. Nalbandian was given more than a hero's welcome after his Wimbly final, for instance. With the world crumbling around them, I suppose people need something constant to hold on to, and fan support never hurts :)


Oh Guga is a wonderful guy. He probably has the most likable personality of all players and I love him for that. :)

You're right to point out the social and economic aspect of tennis in South America. Sport becomes monumentally important in countries riddled with poverty and social problems. It's great for the players to have such fantastic support from their fans and it also gives them additional motivation to do well for thier country and thier supporters. Their background is probably one of the reasons why they are such great fighters.

Layla
09-06-2002, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
so today's Chem quiz wasn't as difficult as i had thought. it was fill-in-the-blanks, TH, but only 36 elements were on the test!:) anyway, tomorrow i have an English test on A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, which turned out to be a decent book! the first 200 pages or so were boring as hell, but i fell in love with one of the characters!:hearts:

Good to hear it wasn't that tough. And it certainly helps to fall in love with a character while struggling with a difficult book. Always works for me. ;)

Layla
09-06-2002, 03:16 PM
And now to the most important event of this day. I already bounced for her on the Hill, but here it goes again:

GOOD LUCK LINDSAY!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Dissident
09-06-2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Vera


Hmmm, I see. Thanks for the info, Hitman.
Not entirely changing from topspin to flat, but you can still hit a ball flat with a western, can you? Well, don't mind me. I have a western grip because I like to hit topspin. But my skill level is not good enough to hit anything more than that. :o But I do like to learn more. Even I can't play right now, I like to know how the player do that :)

Anyway, in your opinion then, do you think spanish players have the skills to win in hard court in a consistent basis? We see Moya did that but it's really his second hard court title in his 7/8 years. Of course I'm more concern about if JC can do that. He won Dubai, but it seems that Dubai is super friendly to Spanish players so I wonder if Dubai has a slow hard court.

Can you hit flat balls with your western grip? :eek: Beware, you wrist can crack. :p
Seriously, I guess its possible but I could never do it. To be sincere, I could never hit a ball with a western without hitting it to my toes. :p
As for the spaniards doing well on hard courts, sure, why not?
The problem is that the Armada "school" has those giant bouncing topspin shots on a regular basis. The new guys coming in, though, have much better adaptable games. Ferrero, Lopez, Robredo, they have kind of different shots, more variaty to their games and that is fundamental.
Moya did it, Corretja did it.
Ferrero is the one who, on paper, should have the most adaptable game for the hard among the spaniards. His serve is not grand, but he moves quite well and his forehand is a killer. The problem is his moving (I wrote something about it somewhere in the General Messages forum), and mainly his confidence.

Thats my opinion. :D

Dissident
09-06-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Layla
And now to the most important event of this day. I already bounced for her on the Hill, but here it goes again:

GOOD LUCK LINDSAY!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

WOOHOO! I will activate my "Williams Jinxing Special Set" today. :p

Seriously, Serena is kicking ass once again. It should be at least an interesting match. :)

GO LINDS!!!!

Layla
09-06-2002, 04:00 PM
Hehe Hitman. :D

Oh and I forgot to add, good luck to Katarina Srebotnik (Slovenia :) ) and Bob Bryan against Lisa Raymond and Mike Bryan! The two brothers fighting against each other. :eek: I'm watching the match right now on Slovene TV. :)

And of course good luck to Mad Max but I said that already in GM. :)

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 05:29 PM
Good luck, Lindsay!! Kick some Williams' ass for us :)

LOL, this is the second or third time the Bryans have met in the mixed doubles finals. I can't help but wonder, do they think about--well, one of us will have this trophy and title, and the other one will not? Not that mixed doubs is hotly-contested or anything :D

It has to be weird living with someone who's defeated you in a championship match.

Layla
09-06-2002, 06:10 PM
Well, maybe it's just a more intense version of the usual sybling rivalry. I think they must get on quite well. They're a great doubles team. :)

Sadly Katarina and Bob lost, but congrats to Mike and Lisa anyway.

Vera
09-06-2002, 06:34 PM
Hi everyone:wavey:

First thing first, good luck to Lindsey and Amelie. I'm not anti Williams, but I do like Amelie bcos her play style reminded me of my all time fave in women tennis - Gaby. Unfortunately, she's also as fragile as Gaby. Anyway, good luck to her cos I think she has a chance.

Can you hit flat balls with your western grip? Beware, you wrist can crack.

Oh, I couldn't. But I only know a little, so I thought maybe I'm not skillful enough to do that but the pro could. :o :o :o Anyway. I change from Continental to Western in order to hit topspin. So I never really try too hard to hit the ball flat. BTW, thanks for the tips. Well, it's good to know that JC has the game to do well in hard court. :) :) :)

Layla
09-06-2002, 07:24 PM
Hi Vera! :wavey:

Yahoooo!!! Max Mirnyi and Mahesh Bhupathi won!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

They are the doubles champions! Congratulations! :D

The score was 6-3 3-6 6-4.

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 09:03 PM
MAX!! http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif

and . . .

Gasquet Easily Into Junior Boys' Semifinals
by Bob Greene
Friday, September 6, 2002

Richard Gasquet is concentrating, which could be perilous to any player facing him from the other side of the net.

"I play very good," the Frenchman said Friday after advancing to the semifinals of the U.S. Open Junior Boys singles by demolishing No. 11 seed Dudi Sela of Israel 6-3, 6-2. "I have a lot of concentration."

That's what was lacking the last time the two met, on clay at Roland Garros earlier this summer, when Gasquet won in three sets.

"I was a set down and he had a point for 4-love in the second," Gasquet remembered. "Afterwards, he collapsed a bit. I really didn't want to rely on that kind of thing happening today to win, so I was in the match from the first shot."

On the hard courts of the USTA National Tennis Center, Gasquet had no problems with the hard-hitting Israeli. Although he's just 16, Gasquet is considered one of the up-and-coming stars on the men's pro circuit.

Top-seeded in the Junior Boys, Gasquet is playing on hard courts for the first time since the Australian Open in January. He has spent most of the year playing satellite and challenger events on red clay.

In June, Gasquet, then 15, became the youngest winner of the junior boys' title in French Open history. Playing in the main draw later, he forced Spain's Albert Costa to four sets before falling.

All of that came shortly after he reached the second round at Monte Carlo, where he upset Argentina's Franco Squillari to become the youngest player ever to win a match at an ATP Masters Series event. His run in that clay court tournament ended when he fell to Russia's Marat Safin.

Gasquet began this year by reaching the semifinals of the Australian Open junior boys. With the exception of the junior events at Roland Garros and the U.S. Open, he has played only professional tournaments, posting a 43-8 match record. He has won four tournaments in that stretch.

"I'm getting more into the tournament," Gasquet said Friday, "and I really want to win."

Go Richard!!

Layla
09-06-2002, 09:14 PM
Richard is doing great! :D

And Mauresmo just won the second set, so there will be a third set! :)

TennisHack
09-06-2002, 09:18 PM
C'mon, Amelie, don't make Kimmy's loss all for naught!!

Layla
09-06-2002, 10:19 PM
Well, it didn't happen.

And what is worse, Lindsay's match has not started well. She got broken in her first service game. :( Come on Lindsay!

Layla
09-06-2002, 10:43 PM
Oh no! Lindsay lost the first set 3-6 :sad: and she had zero winners in that set. :eek:

Please Lindsay, fight!

Layla
09-06-2002, 11:44 PM
I shed some tears on Henman Hill, but I still have plenty left.

Lindsay :sad: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/azcrying.gif :sad: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/azcrying.gif :sad: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/azcrying.gif

Leo7
09-06-2002, 11:56 PM
Lindsay :sad:

she lost 6-3, 7-5, after leading 5-2 in the 2nd and having 3 set points!:(

Layla
09-07-2002, 12:04 AM
I know. Watching that really broke my heart. :sad:

Poor Lindsay. I know we shouldn't expect too much from her, she's only just return to the tour to these amazing results. Now all she needs to do is beat one of the Williamses :) But apparently not today. :(

Leo7
09-07-2002, 12:07 AM
first she needs to take a SET from a Williams. she hasn't done that yet this year, despite for serving for the first set against Venus in New Haven, and then the 2nd set today against Serena. i don't know if the confidence is there yet. :(

but Mad Max won!:bounce:

Layla
09-07-2002, 12:12 AM
No I don't think her confidence is very strong when she's facing Venus or Serena. It almost seems like she doesn't think she stands a chance sometimes. At least that's how she played the first set. And the second set in New Haven after failing to win the first one. But with a few more matches she should be able to fix that. :)

Layla
09-07-2002, 12:33 AM
Good night everyone! :wavey:

I can't keep my eyes open anymore. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/dozey.gif Sweet dreams. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/sleeping.gif

Leo7
09-07-2002, 12:49 AM
good night, darling! hope you have happy dreams of Lindsay and Juanqui winning Roland Garros 2003!;)

Chloe le Bopper
09-07-2002, 12:57 AM
Allez Richard :D

And :sad: Amelie

:wavey:

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 01:01 AM
LOL, you changed the thread name!! I'm so used to "Vamos Juan Carlos at the US Open" :)

Lindsay :sad: Amelie :sad:

COME ON SJENG SCHALKEN!!!

Leo7
09-07-2002, 01:08 AM
we'll have to change the name to "Vamos Juan Carlos in Hong Kong" next week!;)

Leo7
09-07-2002, 01:11 AM
:sad: LINDSAY! :sad: AMELIE! :sad: CHANDA! :sad: MONICA! :sad:

don't worry girls, you'll get 'em next time!;) someone needs to stop this Williams Domination.

Chloe le Bopper
09-07-2002, 01:23 AM
For sure, I'll chance the title again next week ;)

You'll ahve to remind me though :angel:

There is one good thing about Williams Domination for non fans - it will eventually make everyone else better :) They will have to step up, and improve - something they wouldn't have to work at as hard without the sisters.

Layla
09-07-2002, 04:18 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

If anyone is here at all. :confused:

The first semi-final just started so without further ado...

GO SJENG !!!

Layla
09-07-2002, 05:00 PM
Well, Sjeng lost the first set in a tie-breaker. :( 6-8. He's not going down without a fight, but then Pete is not playing all that brilliantly.

And even though Sjeng is known to occasionally choke in the tie-breakers, he is extremely resiliant and will bounce back immediately instead of pondering over lost chances or poor play. Kudos. :)

Layla
09-07-2002, 05:49 PM
The second set goes to Pete in a tie-break as well. :sad: 7-4

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 06:07 PM
Hey, but at least it's tiebreaks and not blowouts or bagels.

SO GLAD I didn't tape this match . . .

Layla
09-07-2002, 06:14 PM
I like watching Sjeng serve. The way his body tilts back like a reed in the wind. He also played some gorgeous backhands.

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 06:17 PM
Just wanted to alert everyone to the fact that the story has been updated!! If you have comments, don't be shy--just post them in the thread!!

Layla
09-07-2002, 06:28 PM
Well, I'm afraid it's all over. :sad: Pete won 7-6 7-6 6-2. True, it wasn't a spanking but still... The dreaded Sampras/Agassi final is ominously close now. :(

Layla
09-07-2002, 06:30 PM
And for some comic relief, this is for TH! :D

A customer enters a pet shop.

Customer: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.

(The owner does not respond.)

C: 'Ello, Miss?
Owner: What do you mean "miss"?
C: <pause> I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
O: We're closin' for lunch.
C: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I
purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
O: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
C: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's
wrong with it!
O: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
C: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking
at one right now.
O: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian
Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
C: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
O: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!
C: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up!
(shouting at the cage)
'Ello, Mister Polly Parrot! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if
you show...(owner hits the cage)
O: There, he moved!
C: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!
O: I never!!
C: Yes, you did!
O: I never, never did anything...
C: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY!!!!!
Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!

(Takes parrot out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up
in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)

C: Now that's what I call a dead parrot.
O: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!
C: STUNNED?!?
O: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Blues
stun easily, major.
C: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this.
That parrot is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour
ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein'
tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.
O: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.
C: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why
did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?
O: The Norwegian Blue prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit,
squire? Lovely plumage!
C: Look, I took the liberty of examining that parrot when I got it home,
and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in
the first place was that it had been NAILED there.

(pause)

O: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that bird down,
it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and
VOOM! Feeweeweewee!
C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts
through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
O: No no! 'E's pining!
C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased
to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft
of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be
pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off
the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run
down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

(pause)

O: Well, I'd better replace it, then.
(he takes a quick peek behind the counter)
O: Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're
right out of parrots.
C: I see. I see, I get the picture.
O: <pause> I got a slug.

(pause)

C: (sweet as sugar) Pray, does it talk?
O: Nnnnot really.
C: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?
O: Look, if you go to my brother's pet shop in Bolton, he'll replace
the parrot for you.
C: Bolton, eh? Very well.

The customer leaves.

The customer enters the same pet shop. The owner is putting on a false
moustache.

C: This is Bolton, is it?
O: (with a fake mustache) No, it's Ipswitch.
C: (looking at the camera) That's inter-city rail for you.

The customer goes to the train station.
He addresses a man standing behind a desk marked "Complaints".

C: I wish to complain, British-Railways Person.
Attendant: I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS JOB, YOU KNOW!!!
C: I beg your pardon...?
A: I'm a qualified brain surgeon! I only do this job because I like
being my own boss!
C: Excuse me, this is irrelevant, isn't it?
A: Yeah, well it's not easy to pad these python files out to 150 lines,
you know.
C: Well, I wish to complain. I got on the Bolton train and found myself
deposited here in Ipswitch.
A: No, this is Bolton.
C: (to the camera) The pet shop man's brother was lying!!
A: Can't blame British Rail for that.
C: In that case, I shall return to the pet shop!

He does.

C: I understand this IS Bolton.
O: (still with the fake mustache) Yes?
C: You told me it was Ipswitch!
O: ...It was a pun.
C: (pause) A PUN?!?
O: No, no...not a pun...What's that thing that spells the same backwards
as forwards?
C: (Long pause) A palindrome...?
O: Yeah, that's it!
C: It's not a palindrome! The palindrome of "Bolton" would be "Notlob"!!
It don't work!!
O: Well, what do you want?
C: I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think
this is getting too silly!

Sergeant-Major: Quite agree, quite agree, too silly, far too silly...
(takes customer by the arm) Come on, you, you've got to go
do another sketch now! Come on... (he walks off stage left,
followed by the director and cameramen, leaving the owner alone
on the set)

O: (to the audience) Well! I never wanted to do this in the first place.
I wanted to be...

A LUMBERJACK!

(he takes off his white lab coat to reveal a checkered
shirt and suspenders under it)

Floating down the mighty rivers of British Columbia!
With my best girl by my side! etc. etc. etc.
( continued in LUMBERJK PYTHON )


************************ Alternative Ending: **************************

C: Pray, does it talk?
O: Nnnnot really.
C: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?
O: N-no, I guess not. (gets ashamed, looks at his feet)
C: Well.

(pause)

O: (quietly) D'you.... d'you want to come back to my place?
C: (looks around) Yeah, all right, sure.

Vera
09-07-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Well, I'm afraid it's all over. :sad: Pete won 7-6 7-6 6-2. True, it wasn't a spanking but still... The dreaded Sampras/Agassi final is ominously close now. :(

Sorry that Sjeng lost:sad: :sad: But Andre and Pete? Not so fast. Lleyton's still in charge. He'll just charge the 2 seniors right out of the court. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Oh, hi Layla, please don't divorce Juan Carlos, he's so sad. :(

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 06:44 PM
Sjeng :sad:

MONTY PYTHON!!! :D

Layla
09-07-2002, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Vera

Oh, hi Layla, please don't divorce Juan Carlos, he's so sad. :(

lol Vera! We'll see, we'll see. He HAS been living with another woman all this time, you do realize that. He can't have everything. ;)

Vera
09-07-2002, 06:59 PM
Well, okay. Maybe he shouldn't, even he's Juan Carlos.

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Layla
lol Vera! We'll see, we'll see. He HAS been living with another woman all this time, you do realize that. He can't have everything. ;)

Of his own choosing, let's not forget. LOL ;)

Layla
09-07-2002, 07:19 PM
Yes, yes TH! :rolleyes: ;)

Meanwhile Agassi won the first set. Grrrrrrrr.

Nacho
09-07-2002, 07:35 PM
OMG guys! I just can't believe what I have just read! Juanqui has lost to a player ranked #250 in the world!!! IN STRAIGHT SETS!!!

Vera
09-07-2002, 07:35 PM
Oops. I jinx Lleyton!?!!?

Okay, go Andre.

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Nacho
OMG guys! I just can't believe what I have just read! Juanqui has lost to a player ranked #250 in the world!!! IN STRAIGHT SETS!!!

WTF are you talking about?

Nacho
09-07-2002, 07:38 PM
He lost to another spaniard, Ivan Navarro (who is 20 years old) by 7-5 6-2 :eek: in a small tournament played these days in Spain.

Should we worry about this result???

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 07:40 PM
What? He played a tournament this week? But there are no other tournaments going on . . . :confused:

Nacho
09-07-2002, 07:40 PM
If you don't believe me check this link (it's in spanish though)

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,181681,00.html

Juanqui announce some days ago that he would play this tourney if he didn't get to reach the last rounds at the US Open.

Layla
09-07-2002, 07:43 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Was that on clay? Maybe he's geared up to play on hard courts, so this could be a good sign. :p

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 07:45 PM
Perhaps the most awkward translation I've ever seen between Spanish & English, but it's sufficient, I suppose:

The alicantino Navarrese Iván, in position 250 of classification ATP, gave to the surprise when winning to Juan Carlos Ferrero, series head number one, in the first semifinal of XX the edition of the Trophy the International of Tennis "City of Albacete". Navarrese one prevailed by 7-5 and 6-2 and it will dispute the end in front of to the winner of the semifinal that will face Joan Balcells and Juan Alberto Viloca. The Barcelonian tennis player Joan Balcells will be his rival in the end, when winning to the Catalan Juan Alberto Viloca by 6-4 and 6-3. Viloca, a little touched physically after the party of Friday before Rafa Nadal, could not in front of do the aggressive game shown by Balcells, that with ' break' in each Seth it had enough to take control of the victory.

But I still don't understand the classification of the tournament and what sort of bearing, if any, it has on Juan Carlo's record, ESP, or tennis ability. I don't doubt you, Nacho, am just surprised he's playing somewhere.

Nacho
09-07-2002, 07:48 PM
I'll translate the 1st paragraph:

''Ivan Navarro, born in Alicante (a spanish city) and ranked 250 in the world, surprised everyone by beating Juan Carlos Ferrero, seeded #1, in the first SF of the 'City of Albacete' tournament. Navarro won by 7-5 6-2 and will play the final against the winner of the second semifinal (Balcells or Viloca)''

Nacho
09-07-2002, 07:58 PM
There are several tournaments like this one played in Spain. They usually start in the 2nd week of Grand Slams like Wimbledon & the US Open, because it's well known that the spanish players wont probably reach the 4th round in these tourneys.

Lots of spaniards play these tourneys. Corretja, Costa, Robredo and even Juanqui played 1 of these small events during the 2nd week of Wimbledon

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 09:08 PM
For Layla, since you cheered me today.

Even though he lost in the semis, we should always remember this picture:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020905/capt.1031264467us_open_xnyf129.jpg

Although it's not as funny as the Dead Parrot sketch :D

Layla
09-07-2002, 09:16 PM
lol It's almost as funny. :D What a great pic! I love it. :hearts:

Thank you so much. :)

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 09:25 PM
I've posted lots more in Sjeng's thread, go and see for yourself. I had to wade through the ten tons of Pete pictures, but it was suddenly all worth it when I saw that picture of Sjeng. He's starting to grow on me :)

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 09:27 PM
Okay, riddle me this. WHY must there be a picture from every angle of Pete's victorious arm after ever match? Seriously! The Yahoo gallery only holds six pictures on a page, and there have been pages of Pete and his arm, or Pete smiling or whatever. Yuck.

I feel like this when I try to find pictures I want. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/pcangry.gif

It's all Venus, Serena, Pete, and Andre. :rolleyes:

Layla
09-07-2002, 09:31 PM
Hehe. He's actually quite easy to like. :) Yes I saw them, thank you. I tried hard to find any pics of him yesterday. There aren't many on the net. :(

Layla
09-07-2002, 09:34 PM
LMAO @ that smiley, but not at your irritation of course. I know exactly what you mean. :rolleyes:

Btw, this match is ridiculous. So many twists and turns in the plot it's making my head spin. :eek:

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 09:44 PM
For once, Barrie is right: The Geritol final, indeed!!

Layla
09-07-2002, 09:52 PM
Oh dear. Don't I know it. :rolleyes: That's two finals I don't have to watch now. :D

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Nacho
There are several tournaments like this one played in Spain. They usually start in the 2nd week of Grand Slams like Wimbledon & the US Open, because it's well known that the spanish players wont probably reach the 4th round in these tourneys.

Lots of spaniards play these tourneys. Corretja, Costa, Robredo and even Juanqui played 1 of these small events during the 2nd week of Wimbledon

Oops, I completely skipped over this post. Sorry, Nacho :o

That's strange, do they not have confidence in their boys? :D I wonder if it's just a Spanish thing, or if its in other countries too . . .

TennisHack
09-07-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh dear. Don't I know it. :rolleyes: That's two finals I don't have to watch now. :D

I didn't think it could be any worse than last year, and what do you know, it is.

I'm sure the US Open website is pissing itself in glee, which is a sad thing, because I still have to venture over there tomorrow to get the results of the boys' singles final.

Richard won his semi, it was pretty hotly contested against Ryan Henry, one of the next-best Aussies. I was SHOCKED when Robin Soderling lost in the other semi to some kid named Baghdatis? No clue who he is . . .

Here's hoping Richard can win a second (junior) Slam in a row!! His future is so bright :)

Layla
09-07-2002, 10:04 PM
Indeed! Go Richard!!! :D

Leo7
09-07-2002, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Oh dear. Don't I know it. :rolleyes: That's two finals I don't have to watch now. :D

not watch the Andre-Pete Final?! :eek: how can you not? i may not a big fan of either, but i know a good match when i see one. hopefully another one for the ages...

GO PETE! :bounce:

Layla
09-07-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Leo7


not watch the Andre-Pete Final?! :eek: how can you not? i may not a big fan of either, but i know a good match when i see one. hopefully another one for the ages...

GO PETE! :bounce:

Because I just don't care. Sorry. :o

Chloe le Bopper
09-07-2002, 11:12 PM
More like one for the ageless ;)

I'm looking forward to the mens final a LOT.

The womens final, I won't be home tonight so I haven't a choice there.

Leo7
09-08-2002, 01:12 AM
:wavey:

the women's final starts in 9 minutes. but who really cares? :rolleyes:

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Leo7


not watch the Andre-Pete Final?! :eek: how can you not? i may not a big fan of either, but i know a good match when i see one. hopefully another one for the ages...


Just like their other 33 meetings? Gag me :rolleyes:

The Open officially ended for me on Black Monday, and unofficially when Max and Sjeng lost in singles (YAY MAX in doubs, tho!!)

Go Richard!!!

Leo7
09-08-2002, 01:25 AM
actually the women's final starts in half an hour!

Dissident
09-08-2002, 04:00 AM
Serena won *yawn*

And slap @ you both for not wanting to see the final tomorrow! :p

As for that tournament, its a satellite or a future, or maybe an exhibition. No official tournaments are played during Grand Slam weeks.

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Serena won *yawn*

And slap @ you both for not wanting to see the final tomorrow! :p

As for that tournament, its a satellite or a future, or maybe an exhibition. No official tournaments are played during Grand Slam weeks.

I was more like, "Gag me" Why couldn't they show McEnroe vs Becker instead?

hitman, you know you love me :kiss: even if I don't want to watch Baldy and the Android play yet again.

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 04:42 AM
Oh, yes: ANOTHER INSTALLMENT added in the story thread!

Leo7
09-08-2002, 04:52 AM
Lindsay won more games off of Serena than any other player at the Open! GO LINDSAY! :)

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 05:05 AM
Yay Lindsay!

Now imagine if she was fully recouperated . . . :D

Leo7
09-08-2002, 05:24 AM
yah, in time she will become a better match player and will be able to win the big points. i think she can also be more consistent on the return like she was a couple years ago when she was winning Grand Slams. i also think her 1st serve can get more heat on it.

Good Luck on defending your titles this fall, Lindsay!;)

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 05:39 AM
Best of luck to Richard Gasquet in the boys' singles final tomorrow!!

And good luck to Elke Clijsters in girls doubles!!!

Nacho
09-08-2002, 11:05 AM
and good luck to Virginia Ruano in doubles!

Nacho
09-08-2002, 11:07 AM
I can't believe she's been the best spaniard at the Open...

Nacho
09-08-2002, 11:08 AM
Oh, look at that!

Nacho
09-08-2002, 11:09 AM
It's just my 200th post :p

(You guys post too much!)

Nacho
09-08-2002, 11:13 AM
But I'm proud to announce that 71 posts out of those 200 belong to this thread :D

Layla
09-08-2002, 03:44 PM
Hehe Nacho, congrats! :D I'm glad you decided to share your 200th post with us. ;)

Layla
09-08-2002, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
Good Luck on defending your titles this fall, Lindsay!;)

How many titles does she have to defend?

GOOD LUCK IN ALL YOUR TOURNAMENTS LINDSAY!!! :)

Layla
09-08-2002, 03:50 PM
Ok I changed my mind. I guess I will watch today's final and hopefully get to see some amazing tennis (I better...). For old times sake if nothing else. It is a fitting end to their careers even if they won't retire just yet.

And I do care who wins. I have a lot riding on this. The points from the final would move me up a spot in the prediction game, so I desperately want them. In short...

GO PETE!!! :bounce:

Leo7
09-08-2002, 04:35 PM
Lindsay has 3 titles to defend from last fall! she won in Filderstadt, Zurich, and Linz, and got to the Finals of the Sanex Championships where she had to default b/c of her knee injury!:eek: :( she went on an 18 match win-streak after losing in the USO Quarters to Serena, and was the most dominant player for a while!:)

but that's a lot of points to defend, especially when you are just coming back from injury. i'm afraid Lindsay is in big danger to fall out the Top 10!:(

Leo7
09-08-2002, 04:38 PM
Congrats to Nacho on your 200 posts!;)

Layla
09-08-2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
but that's a lot of points to defend, especially when you are just coming back from injury. i'm afraid Lindsay is in big danger to fall out the Top 10!:(

Don't worry. I'm sure that won't happen. She will be superb and will defend all those points and then some. ;)

Leo7
09-08-2002, 05:03 PM
awww, thanks darlin! i hope you're right! :)

Layla
09-08-2002, 05:47 PM
A joke for today:

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 05:56 PM
Hmm, he must be getting a big kick out of us right now.

Congrats on hitting the big 2-0-0, Nacho! :)

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 06:32 PM
http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif Richard Gasquet takes his second junior Grand Slam!! http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif http://216.40.241.68/otn/blobs/boldblue.gif

Something's gone right today!! I'm so very proud of him :)

Someone posted in the boys singles thread that this would be his last junior event--can you believe that?!

Layla
09-08-2002, 07:02 PM
Well, he's on to bigger and better things, I guess. :)

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Nacho
09-08-2002, 07:09 PM
Virginia & Paola took the doubles title! :bounce: :bounce:
Today seems to be a happy day for everyone ;)

Layla
09-08-2002, 07:09 PM
When exactly does the final begin?

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 07:10 PM
Nacho, I was watching that as Richard's match was going on--they totally blew them out of the water.

Didn't they also win the RG doubs title?

Too freaky! :eek:

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Layla
When exactly does the final begin?

It was set to start right after the ladies doubles final. So probably half an hour or so?

Layla
09-08-2002, 07:14 PM
Oh no! That means I probably won't get live coverage, only a replay. And just when I decided to watch it. Now it will be even worse because I will know the score. :rolleyes:

Layla
09-08-2002, 07:27 PM
Can anyone explain to me what was meant by "Schalken's powderpuff serve" (from the USO official website)?

Nacho
09-08-2002, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Nacho, I was watching that as Richard's match was going on--they totally blew them out of the water.

Didn't they also win the RG doubs title?

Too freaky! :eek:

Yes! They also won Rome, Toronto, Acapulco & Bogota, and were runner ups at Wimbledon (lost to the Williamses) They are the doubles team of the year :) (in fact with this victory they have just become the No.1 in doubles rankings)

Layla
09-08-2002, 09:38 PM
Great! :)

Turns out I will be able to watch the final live on TV, courtesy of the Croatian TV. Thank goodness. :) In fact, it has just started. I just wish you guys were here to watch it with me, so we could talk about it. :(

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Can anyone explain to me what was meant by "Schalken's powderpuff serve" (from the USO official website)?

Where exactly did you see that? A little context would help :)

No way am I going over there of my own free accord. Sampras won the first set and it's worse than a pissing festival over there. I had to dig to find an article on Richard, but I did eventually find it :)

Now post a pic of him with the trophy, dammit!!

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Nacho
Yes! They also won Rome, Toronto, Acapulco & Bogota, and were runner ups at Wimbledon (lost to the Williamses) They are the doubles team of the year :) (in fact with this victory they have just become the No.1 in doubles rankings)

:eek: WHOA!! Go them! :)

So someone's finally giving Stubbs/Raymond a run for their money, eh? Even better.

Congrats to Virginia & Paola on their very excellent victory today--6,1 6-2 :eek:!!

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 10:28 PM
::sigh:: Looks like Pete is never going to go away now . . .

Layla
09-08-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Where exactly did you see that? A little context would help :)

No way am I going over there of my own free accord. Sampras won the first set and it's worse than a pissing festival over there. I had to dig to find an article on Richard, but I did eventually find it :)

Now post a pic of him with the trophy, dammit!!

Hey TH! You're here! :wavey:

I thought I was alone. The link to the story is http://www.usopen.org/news/articles/200209071018181c5f1ff475fc400400256c2d004e74a3.htm l I thought it was a technical term that I wasn't familiar with or something. I don't know what the word means.

Layla
09-08-2002, 10:43 PM
Btw, this match isn't as interesting as I thought it might be. :(

And in case you didn't see my reply in the US Open forum, I'm so sorry I couldn't post some netcam pics of Richard. I was detained and couldn't follow the scores anymore, so I didn't even see your request. My apologies. I would gladly have done it.

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 10:43 PM
No, powderpuff is insulting. It means Sjeng's serve is soft and easy to attack, like a powder puff--what ladies apply their makeup with.

The term is also used when talking about girls' [american] football.

:rolleyes: at the comment. If Pete wins today the world will most definitely be thrown out of balance All this shit will come back.

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 10:44 PM
Yes, I saw your reply. Don't worry about it :) I just know you posted pics of Juanqui when he was on Court 11 :)

Nacho
09-08-2002, 10:50 PM
For those girls interested in seeing Robredo without t-shirt, go to the Spanish Armada forum. I posted there 2 pics of him taken this week at Brazil.

Layla
09-08-2002, 10:53 PM
Ok Nacho! I'll be sure to check that out. :D Thanks!

Layla
09-08-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
No, powderpuff is insulting. It means Sjeng's serve is soft and easy to attack, like a powder puff--what ladies apply their makeup with.

The term is also used when talking about girls' [american] football.

:rolleyes: at the comment. If Pete wins today the world will most definitely be thrown out of balance All this shit will come back.

Oh how rude. :fiery: Now I'm annoyed. Didn't I also read in one of the threads that Jimmy Mac said Sjeng's service action was the ugliest he's ever seen? Right. I was serious yesterday. I love watching that man serve. Maybe it's just because he doesn't bend his knees. It's very elegant. And his serve is pretty effective too.

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 11:02 PM
Yes, JohnnyMac said Sjeng's serve was ugly. But he says shit like that all the time, don't let him bother you ;)

His service motion is actually what failed to impress me. He looks stiff to me when he serves, but obviously it gets the job done. He's won titles and been deep into Slams now.

TennisHack
09-08-2002, 11:13 PM
For Nacho :D

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020908/capt.1031513259us_open_xnyf101.jpg

Layla
09-09-2002, 12:12 AM
OMG, have you seen this. A horrible mistake by a linejudge. Sampras' ball landed smack in the centre of the line and it was called out. This point would have given Sampras two break points and instead it's game Agassi. Unbelievable. He is going to freak out when he sees the tape.

Oh lord, this match cannot go into the fifth set, please. :(

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 12:15 AM
YES!!

Sorry :o Go to a fifth! Don't throw the world out of balance!

Layla
09-09-2002, 12:23 AM
lol TH, the world will not be thrown out of balance. Everything will return to normal after the open, don't you worry. ;)

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 12:35 AM
Except that Petey boy will now never go away, and I can never go to the US Open site again.

And, I'll never live this one down :o

But the world will be all right, never we fear. ONWARD TO NEXT WEEK! Michel is seeded #2 in Romania :)

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 12:37 AM
More happiness:

http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_0908_010.jpg

Layla
09-09-2002, 12:41 AM
Congratulations to Pete! Thanks for the points. ;)

Yep, on we go. :)

Of course he'll go away, don't worry. When the time comes. I don't think this changes anything.

Why would you have to live this down? :confused:

Layla
09-09-2002, 12:42 AM
Hey, you found the pic of Richard! Looking good... :D

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 12:43 AM
And another, with the finalist:

http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_0908_011.jpg

Doesn't the other guy look a little old to be playing juniors tennis? :eek:

Layla
09-09-2002, 12:45 AM
lmao he looks in his late twenties. :eek:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Of course he'll go away, don't worry. When the time comes. I don't think this changes anything.

Why would you have to live this down? :confused:

My thinking is, now he'll stick around because he can say, "See? I can still play and win majors!" and we'll have to endure even more of his early-round losses. Without Zhenya :(

Because I was one of the biggest criers of "PETE! RETIRE ALREADY!" I've never liked him and I probably never will. Plus my friend who wanted to watch the finals with me will rag on me, albeit good-naturedly.

Layla
09-09-2002, 12:49 AM
LMAO! Got it.

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 12:50 AM
Just to round things out:

Gasquet Clinches Boys' Title
by Jamie Gross
Sunday, September 8, 2002

Sixteen-year-old Richard Gasquet of France, the top seed in the boys' singles event, captured the US Open boys' singles title, defeating No. 5 Marcos Baghdatis of Cyprus, 7-5, 6-2, in the final. The victory gave the young Frenchman his second junior Grand Slam title of the year. He also won the championship at Roland Garros earlier this summer.

The violins that were playing outside of court 11 during the match served as poetic backdrop for the 2002 boys' final. In between streams of music, Gasquet and Baghdatis would serve up an impressive match, pleasing many fans who have never seen the two juniors play.

Baghdatis tried to use his strong serve and speedy footwork to pick apart Gasquet, yet true to form, the Frenchmen, with many aces up his sleeve, forced Baghdatis to make many errors.

At the start of the match Gasquet looked shaky, as he double-faulted and sent balls flying just wide and long, atypical of his stellar winners and consistency. It would take until game 10 before Gasquet would settle his service games, pulling some aces on Baghdatis.

Baghdatis saw his break at 4-3 disappear, as two double faults would bring him to 0-30. Gasquet answered with two exquisite points to break back. A dumbfounded Baghdatis, who acted as if he had won after breaking Gasquet previously, got sloppy and handed over the first set to Gasquet.

Gasquet continued to roll in the second set, winning many points off of Baghdatis' second serve. Baghdatis over-hit a forehand, sending it sailing long to crumble at 7-5, 6-2. An elated Gasquet was beaming as he accepted the junior boys' trophy for 2002.

Leo7
09-09-2002, 12:53 AM
GO RICHARD! :bounce:

and Congrats to Petey, he played a damn good match.

Leo7
09-09-2002, 01:08 AM
Nacho, you like Ruano Pascual and Suarez? my fave women's doubles team is Raymond/Stubbs and i was very disappointed that they didn't win a Slam this year. they were the #1 doubles team and defending champs at Wimby and the USO last year, but didn't have the big results in 2002!:( but i'm glad that Lisa at least won the mixed this year with Mike Bryan.

in men's doubles, i love the Bryan Brothers, and Max Mirnyi of course! i wish he would played mixed again with Anna or Serena! :)

Vera
09-09-2002, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Except that Petey boy will now never go away, and I can never go to the US Open site again.
:)

Thought so too, that Pete's never gonna go away, well, for another 2 years at least...The world might not be in inbalance, but it surely does complicate things in the Champ Race. Geez, now I have to worry that there's one more challenger for the spots.

Leo7
09-09-2002, 01:28 AM
oh no, which Grand Slam winner will get the Wildcard into the Masters Cup? i don't see Albert or Thomas doing anything for the rest of the season, so i'm thinking Pete. Albert is still #5 in the Champions' Race, but i think he will be passed up in the next few week! i hope! :)

Layla
09-09-2002, 01:32 AM
This will be a hot race, no doubt about that. I think Pete has the best chance of the three. Johansson is obviously injured and Albert will probably just be hopeless on the hard courts. As long as Ferrero stays in the mix... everything will be alright. :)

Vera
09-09-2002, 01:36 AM
Ya, as long as JC is in. But it will be good if Moya gets in too. Okay, I'll asking too much.

I actually don't really care which one of the 3 (Costa, Johansson, Sampras) got to go, as long as only 1 is going.:D

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 01:36 AM
:rolleyes: And the first imbalance is the fact that suddenly he's in the race for the Masters Cup.

I also don't see Thomas or Albert going now. How unfair :mad: And hopefully Juan Carlos will stay in the running!! I think he's back down to #7 or so in the entry system, thanks to the geritols' runs. :D

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 01:37 AM
And yes, I know the ESP has nothing to do with the Race, just wanted to note that.

Layla
09-09-2002, 02:21 AM
Hey, are we in fighting mood or what? j/k :D

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 02:32 AM
Is it totally wrong of me to not being enjoying myself??

Because I'm seriously almost on the floor over here. Fool just cracks me up.

Layla
09-09-2002, 02:34 AM
Nothing wrong with it. :D I'm having so much fun. http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/rotfl.gif

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 02:37 AM
LOL, I think we've defeated her for the night. Or him--s/he called Tommy Haas cute, so I'm not sure what gender to give Fool.

LMAO at him, though. He really did salvage my night. Here I was, all depressed over Pete's win, and BAM! God had a sense of humor after all.

Leo7
09-09-2002, 02:38 AM
i'm going to bed! *yawn* i'm exhausted from a long day!

see ya tomorrow girls! who wants another kiss? :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :D

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 02:42 AM
Bye, Leo.

ILR can have my kiss :)

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 02:42 AM
Aww, I think Fool has figured out how to use the "ignore" function on me.

What a pity.

Layla
09-09-2002, 02:45 AM
Night night Leo! :wavey:

OMG you're going to bed before me?!? :eek:

Thanks for the kiss. :)

Layla
09-09-2002, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Aww, I think Fool has figured out how to use the "ignore" function on me.

What a pity.

LMAO. You mean the "debate" is over? Pity. :(

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 02:49 AM
Well, obviously. I mean, he hasn't responded to my question yet.

I think I finally stumped him. Damn.

So much for toying with the newbies. :(

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 02:50 AM
I mean, I'm used to having to work harder to win a debate. What a disappointment!

Layla
09-09-2002, 02:53 AM
Oh what a let down. Not enough brain exercise for today then. Maybe we should start our own thread. :p

Layla
09-09-2002, 02:58 AM
I don't think I'm gonna make it to 3000. :( It's past 4 am and I really need to go to bed.

Good night, TH! Thanks for keeping me company. This was fun. :D

Sweet dreams. :wavey:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 03:01 AM
Oh, I missed it! I was wondering where you went.

15 away isn't bad, that's just gravy tomorrow morning ;)

Nighty night :wavey:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 03:09 AM
Hmm, all alone in the chat thread . . .

:(

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 04:51 AM
:wavey: See you all in the morning.

Dissident
09-09-2002, 05:15 AM
First, I think Sjeng´s serve motion is bizarre too. :o
Maybe Im now a candidate for the long argument TH is looking for. I can garantee Ill be harder to crack than TF. BEND THOSE KNEES SJENG! AND BEWARE: SPINED ARE FLEXIBLE, BUT NOT THAT MUCH! :p

Dissident
09-09-2002, 05:15 AM
On the other hand, his backhand is gorgeous. :D

Dissident
09-09-2002, 05:17 AM
As for that rude nickname they gave to his serve, I sorry they always have to try to be funny. Schalken´s second serve was really a piece of cake against Sampras, though.
You gotta give the guy a break though, since he was playing 'THE' Sampras, in the zone, on a Grand Slam semifinal. Thats HUGE!

Dissident
09-09-2002, 05:20 AM
And to finish, the Race to Masters Cup should be interesting. Everyone but Hewitt (and maybe Agassi) will have to fight HARD to clinch that spot. Sampras being in the fight is just secondary. I dont think he will be playing that much at all since the end of the year. I guess he will show for the Masters maybe. Im ecstatic about his interest in playing TMC.
Putting it at that, neither Costa or Johansson will do much more, and Pete is not exactly great in indoors either. Hmmm, DOG FIGHT! :p

Chloe le Bopper
09-09-2002, 08:11 AM
:kiss: Hitman

Leo7
09-09-2002, 11:54 AM
:wavey: hitman and becca!

i agree that Sjeng's service motion is a bit strange. he doesn't bend his knees or use his hips at all.

Leo7
09-09-2002, 11:54 AM
me wants a Mad Max Forum! :bounce:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by hitman
Maybe Im now a candidate for the long argument TH is looking for. I can garantee Ill be harder to crack than TF.

Now what would we ever fight about?

::looks at next post::

Oh, yeah. Petey boy. :rolleyes:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by hitman
As for that rude nickname they gave to his serve, I sorry they always have to try to be funny. Schalken´s second serve was really a piece of cake against Sampras, though.
You gotta give the guy a break though, since he was playing 'THE' Sampras, in the zone, on a Grand Slam semifinal. Thats HUGE!

I know, but sometimes they are so blatantly American-biased. It's the same way with trying to find pictures. Yahoo's gallery was filled with pages of Pete and his victorious arm, shot from every possible angle. One or two would suffice, no one's dying to have 20 from one match :rolleyes: :fiery:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 01:33 PM
Morning, Leo :wavey:

Still fighting for the forum, eh? I'll support you :)

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 01:37 PM
Oh, yes: a reminder to Becca to change the thread name.

To what, I have no idea . . .

Dissident
09-09-2002, 02:32 PM
Go Juan Carlos, rest now and get ready for the rest of the season.

:o Sorry, thats too lame. :p

GO GUGA!

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 05:32 PM
How about the "MAX MIRNYI FORUM, PLEASE!" for Leo?

Also the possibility of being lame. ;)

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 05:34 PM
Today has been :rolleyes: so far, but this cheered me up:

(2)M. Kratochvil (SUI) d. R. Lisnard (FRA) 6-4, 7-6(5)

He's playing in Bucharest as the #2 seed. The draw is very weak, obviously, but this would be an awesome chance to break through and win his first title! He won a lot of Challenger titles on clay, so I've been a bit disappointed in his pro-level results thus far.

But I'm still very proud! He seems to have a first round problem, like Juanqui's second round problem. He's been rather floating along this year after having a semi breakout last year.

Let's go Michel!!

Chloe le Bopper
09-09-2002, 06:08 PM
Yahoo's gallery was filled with pages of Pete and his victorious arm, shot from every possible angle. One or two would suffice, no one's dying to have 20 from one match

Whatever do you mean? I find examining exactly what portions of his scalp are balding the fastest to be facinating! I require a picture from all angles, so that I can accumulate the necessary data to compile accurate statistics on this topic :cool:


So what should we change the thread title to? :o

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Whatever do you mean? I find examining exactly what portions of his scalp are balding the fastest to be facinating! I require a picture from all angles, so that I can accumulate the necessary data to compile accurate statistics on this topic :cool:

But do you need to look at his arm to tell how fast he's balding? :eek: Because there were no good head shots . . . believe me, I saw them all.


So what should we change the thread title to? :o

I was only half serious, but perhaps a forum plea would be cool.

Or we could go back to the Courier Fan Club, LMAO :D

Chloe le Bopper
09-09-2002, 09:45 PM
I'd like to compare how fast his head is balding compared to how fast the hair is multiplying on his arm ;)

What do you mean by a forum plea? :confused:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
I'd like to compare how fast his head is balding compared to how fast the hair is multiplying on his arm ;)

LOL!

What do you mean by a forum plea? :confused:

The "MAX MIRNYI FORUM PLEASE!" for Leo Thread

Layla
09-09-2002, 10:28 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

TH, I just realized that your fave will be playing one of my guys in the second round. :( Actually, Michel is one of my faves as well, just not at the very top of my list. But Arnaud Di Pasquale holds a special place in my heart since I saw him win in my hometown. He is fighting his way back into the major tournaments and I noticed that he didn't have to qualify for this one. :D That's a huge step up since he had to qualify for that small challenger I saw. :o Can you imagine winning an Olympic bronze medal and having to qualify for a challenger? That's harsh. Damn injuries. :mad:

Anyway I will be so torn as to who I should root for. But I think I will go with Arnaud. I will be very happy for Michel if he wins though.

Leo, I support your mission to set up a forum for Mad Max as well. :) Now that he plans to concentrate on the singles more, you might eventually get your wish. ;)

Layla
09-09-2002, 10:32 PM
Don't forget to laugh today! :D

Leo7
09-09-2002, 10:33 PM
:wavey:

Layla
09-09-2002, 10:55 PM
:wavey:

How's school?

Layla
09-09-2002, 11:11 PM
http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/x2000.gif

3000!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: x1000

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Hi everyone! :wavey:

TH, I just realized that your fave will be playing one of my guys in the second round. :( Actually, Michel is one of my faves as well, just not at the very top of my list. But Arnaud Di Pasquale holds a special place in my heart since I saw him win in my hometown. He is fighting his way back into the major tournaments and I noticed that he didn't have to qualify for this one. :D That's a huge step up since he had to qualify for that small challenger I saw. :o Can you imagine winning an Olympic bronze medal and having to qualify for a challenger? That's harsh. Damn injuries. :mad:

Anyway I will be so torn as to who I should root for. But I think I will go with Arnaud. I will be very happy for Michel if he wins though.

Leo, I support your mission to set up a forum for Mad Max as well. :) Now that he plans to concentrate on the singles more, you might eventually get your wish. ;)

Finally! I was wondering where you were all day ;)

Yes, I saw that Michel is next up against the DiP. And I remembered how ecstatic you were when I made him beat Andy in the story, so I was thinking :o

I really want Michel to do well, and this is a weak draw, so he has a good chance of breaking through and winning. I hope he does, he currently has a losing record for the year :( And he has finals points to defend at the end of the year.

I always want my boys to do well. It makes me feel happy :)

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 11:17 PM
CONGRATS ON 3000!

We're not worthy, we're not worthy!! http://www.stopstart.btinternet.co.uk/sm/notworthy.gif

Layla
09-09-2002, 11:21 PM
LOL! You helped me. :) Now I can go to bed early tonight. ;) Mission accomplished.

Yes, it feels good when our boys are doing well. :) I also think that Michel has a good shot at winning. I would love to see him rise in the rankings. :)

Btw, I was working and had to fight off the urge to come here all day. But it was worth it, because I'm finished for the day. Finally. More work tomorrow though. :(

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yes, it feels good when our boys are doing well. :) I also think that Michel has a good shot at winning. I would love to see him rise in the rankings. :)

:hearts::hearts::o

Btw, I was working and had to fight off the urge to come here all day. But it was worth it, because I'm finished for the day. Finally. More work tomorrow though. :(

LOL, I feel your pain, I have tons of work to do myself. I need to update my website and leave, dammit! LOL :o:D

Layla
09-09-2002, 11:44 PM
Well, I need to go to bed. Last night I didn't fall asleep until 4:30 or something. I need to catch up.

Good night! :wavey:

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 11:44 PM
Just wanted to note that Richard is the #1 boys singles player, with a 330 pt lead over the #2--his final opponent, Marko Baghdatis.

I'm so happy :D

TennisHack
09-09-2002, 11:44 PM
Nighty night, Layla! :wavey:

Dissident
09-10-2002, 12:13 AM
Hey peeps!
We could change the forum name to "Go Guga in the Brasil Open"???
Puh-lease!!!!
:p

Leo7
09-10-2002, 02:04 AM
wait! Layla! don't go to bed without my goodnight kiss! come back darling! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

oh, i think i missed her!:(

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by hitman
Hey peeps!
We could change the forum name to "Go Guga in the Brasil Open"???
Puh-lease!!!!
:p

Hmm, "Go Guga at the Brasil Open" or "The MAX MIRNYI FORUM PLEASE! thread for Leo" . . . either way, quite counterproductive. ;) After all, this is the Juan Carlos Ferrero forum. ;)

But since hitman begged . . .

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
wait! Layla! don't go to bed without my goodnight kiss! come back darling! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

oh, i think i missed her!:(

So if I start accepting your kisses, you'll start kissing me goodnight, too?

Hmm, decisions decisions.

Leo7
09-10-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Morning, Leo :wavey:

Still fighting for the forum, eh? I'll support you :)

aww, thanks for your support! it's means a lot! :)

GO Max! win your first singles title this fall and prove to them all you deserve a forum of your own!;)

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Leo7
09-10-2002, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


So if I start accepting your kisses, you'll start kissing me goodnight, too?

Hmm, decisions decisions.

:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

:D

Leo7
09-10-2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by Layla
http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/x2000.gif

3000!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: x1000

CONGRATS on 3000! :bounce: good luck on 4000!;)

Dissident
09-10-2002, 02:29 AM
Tommy Robredo got his ass kicked in the first match already. He lost to Luis Horna is straight sets.
I hope he enjoyed the trip... :rolleyes:

TennisHack
09-10-2002, 02:33 AM
I just saw that--I can't believe it! Tommy, where was your head?!?!

Leo7
09-10-2002, 02:45 AM
:wavey:

me is going! :kiss: (to Hackie)

Tommy :(

Vera
09-10-2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


But even I'll admit that he's gotten on my nerves a lot lately, pulling the drama queen shit at TMS Canada . . . and he's attracted the worst sort of fan: the fickle, "OMG he's such a hottie!" what the hell is a forehand? teenybopper kind of fan. If anything, the fans have turned me off more than anything he's particularly done lately. The media, the fans, everyone overhypes him and he's finally bought into it after resisting for a year.

Hehehe, just can't help it. But when I see that "Davis-Cup for woman thread" posted by roddicktennisbabe, this is the first thing that come to mind. What TH said, it's so true. I'm sorry:D

Layla
09-10-2002, 10:07 AM
Morning all! :wavey:

TOMMY!!! :eek: :sad:

I saw Horna play. He lost to Di Pasquale in the Ljubljana challenger. :D Then he won the Zagreb challenger. But imo he's got nothing on Tommy! What happened??? :confused:

Layla
09-10-2002, 10:09 AM
Oh and I like the new title Rebecca. :)

Layla
09-10-2002, 10:51 AM
All my Slovene girls are playing in Brazil this week, Pisnik, Srebotnik and Matevzic. :bounce:

Well, Maja Matevzic lost in the first round to Panova in 3 sets, but Katarina Srebotnik defeated Martina Sucha :) and good luck to Tina Pisnik today!

Leo7
09-10-2002, 11:46 AM
:wavey:

i have to go to school soon...in bout 5 minutes!:(

Leo7
09-10-2002, 11:47 AM
thanks for the new thread title! :D

:bounce: