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TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Second, to all, what the hell is a turkey besides the country, since you obviously didnt get stuffed eating a federation?!?. :p

LOL!!:o A turkey is a large, domesticated bird rather like a chicken but bigger. Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey to be the national bird, but thankfully he lost out to the bald eagle (though maybe 'turkey' would have been a better description of our government . . .)

Here are some pictures for you. A turkey walking around and gobbling:

http://chestnut.acf.org/images/turkey.jpg


And here's what it looks like on the plate (yummy):

http://static.userland.com/images/meatfilter/turkey.jpg

It's a bit blander than chicken, but tastes more or less the same, I guess. It's usually served at Thanksgiving and sometimes at Christmas, depending on family traditions. One bird can feed up to ten people, that's how big they are.

Hope this helps :)

TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
I went out today to try and find the Audioslave album (Layla will know what Im talking about I guess ;)), which is not out here yet. :mad: Sometimes I HATE this city´s cd stores. If you want something SLIGHTLY different from ordinary, you just dont find. :(

Anyway, I ended buying two new cds of PJ. :p Both non-official recordings.

Hey, even *I* know what Audioslave is! :(:o

That sucks that you can't get it yet. I'm so out of touch with the music scene here that I have no idea how it's even doing in its home country. I'd be interested to hear it because as much as they say they aren't Rage Against the Machine with a new lead singer, well . . . basically they are ;) If you guys hear it first you'll have to tell me what you think of it.

Now, the review fairy wants to butt in:

(from Rolling Stone)

Audioslave -- Audioslave, 3 stars

The new-old Nirvana music is hitting stores, Pearl Jam have a new album, and the early-Nineties revival seems to be close to achieving critical mass. Enter Audioslave, a supergroup fusion of Rage Against the Machine with Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell. On first listen to this blend of rap, rock and roil, the alt-rock gene seems to have won the day. One key track is "Exploder," where stinging, whiplash riffs betray a link between Soundgarden and Rage that nobody noticed: They both thought Led Zeppelin were a funk band. If angst-shattering catharsis is what you're after, "Light My Way," which ricochets and recoils like a ball-peen-hammer party in your parents' bedroom, will do the trick. There's even something for the ladies: "I Am the Highway" is a genuine pretty power ballad -- this isn't the return of alt-rock, it's the last revenge of testicle-grabbing, limo-ridin', Gibson-guitar-hero hair metal. It's a pretty tune, but also pretty hard to take seriously after listening to such words as "I am not your autumn moon/I am the night." Elsewhere, guitarist Tom Morello's outer-space feedback histrionics threaten to steal the show -- his most astonishing effect is the satellite wail and whoop he makes on "Like a Stone." Do Audioslave rock? Sure. Is that enough? Well, no. In their past lives, the members of this band were enraged. Now, fierce as they might sound, Audioslave just seem sorta engorged.
PAT BLASHILL
(RS 910 – November 28, 2002)

And it seems most listeners think the album is better than the reviewer thinks it is -- read their 5 star reviews here! (http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=2045276&cf=2045189)

TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:23 PM
A News & Features Article from 11/5/02:

The link to the story, with extras (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=17003&cf=2045189)



Rock's Mega-Merger
How Audioslave became the first supergroup of the millennium

http://images.mp3.com/rollingstone/content/2045189/Images/00311981.jpg
Chris Cornell and a lot of Rage


Chris Cornell knows how to say no. When musicians ask him for advice, he tells them to be clear about not just what they want, but what they won't be willing to do. So when Cornell, the erstwhile lead singer of Soundgarden, met with three former members of Rage Against the Machine to discuss forming a supergroup, he laid out the deal breakers: He wouldn't write political lyrics, and he wouldn't be the new lead singer of Rage. As usual in his life, he got his way. "It's just easier to say what you want," Cornell says. Audioslave seemed as unlikely a union as Prince and the Ramones. Soundgarden and Rage were both multiplatinum rock bands in the Nineties, but Soundgarden were heavy psychedelic grunge, while Rage were rock-rap innovators, known for their left-wing politics as much as for their science-fiction guitar sounds. Cornell's vocal role model was Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin, while Zack de la Rocha's was Chuck D of Public Enemy. Their fans weren't clamoring for this merger; the idea came from producer Rick Rubin. He was right: The music brings together many of the best qualities of the two bands, showcasing both Cornell's impassioned yowling and Tom Morello's mad-scientist guitar playing.

Audioslave's music is a lot better than their name, which, frankly, is terrible -- the group's first choice, Civilian, was already taken. Cornell picked the current name, and the other members gamely claim that it has grown on them, carefully emphasizing that it's not meant to imply that they're slaves to music. "I remember days when I would come up with twenty cool names for a band when I had no band to name," says Cornell. "Once it was time to name a band, I couldn't come up with anything."

After almost two years of recording and wrangling over business issues, Audioslave have now released their CD, Audioslave, and the time has come for them to give interviews to dozens of publications, from Finland to Japan. They do this in an upscale hotel on the Santa Monica beach outside L.A., each member in his own room. This has the advantage of press-junket efficiency, but it underscores a certain degree of separation among Audioslave's members. Although they have a warm professional regard for each other, they don't really hang out together.

Bassist Tim Commerford splits his free time between his family (he has an infant son) and mountain biking; he talks with the enthusiasm of a sports fan calling the local talk station. Looking back at Rage, he says, "We went to the Super Bowl, and we won. But Zack got a contract with another team, so now I just want to beat him like all the other teams." Commerford and de la Rocha were childhood friends but haven't spoken in two years; in a more serious moment, Commerford admits, "I hope that one of us will be a big enough man just to say, 'This is bullshit. I love you.' "

Guitarist Morello, a Harvard graduate and the nephew of the first elected president of Kenya, is quick-witted and infectiously cheerful. He speaks passionately about axisofjustice.org, where he has funneled his political activism. He's also now going without his trademark baseball caps, revealing his stylishly bald head. Brad Wilk is the rock-steady drummer who's been spending his spare time reading books on Buddhism and Siddhartha.

And Chris Cornell? He's a rock star. Or at the very least, at thirty-eight he still looks the part: frosted tips in his hair, red undershirt, leather jacket and a steady flow of American Spirit cigarettes. He lights them with wooden kitchen matches that you half-expect him to strike on the soles of his motorcycle boots. He doesn't make much eye contact, and he'd clearly rather be discussing silent movies or his white German shepherd than Audioslave. ("Her pedigree was listed, with her ancestors. I think it was her grandfather who was Sir Hitler's von Schwartzbald. And another relative was called King Cocaine. And I thought, 'What's wrong with these idiots?' ") But he's genuine and acidly funny.

Cornell has been splitting his time between the Seattle area and Ojai, California; he and Susan Silver (formerly Soundgarden's manager) have been together for seventeen years, are now married and have a two-year-old daughter, Lillian Jean. "It's really difficult to imagine the relationship you'll have with a person who doesn't exist yet," Cornell says. "But it turns out she's very charismatic and strong-willed. I notice when she pays attention to adults, it would be as if you were at a party and a rock star paid attention to you."

Looking back at his former band, Cornell says, "There's no more Soundgarden worries. I like all the music, I like the fact that our integrity was always intact. And now, save us getting back together someday and destroying what we did, nothing can affect that."

Cornell was small until puberty, which he says came late for him. But he learned to fight back with "psychological warfare," which proved handy with Soundgarden, he says. "I learned a lot from Kim [Thayil, Soundgarden's guitarist] -- like how to win an argument without being right." With Audioslave, the flash point came on March 25th, 2002: Three days after the band announced it would be touring with Ozzfest, Cornell left the group and went back to Seattle. "My dog looks at me wrong, I'm outta here," Cornell says. "I pretty much live my whole life that way. The last time I walked away from my wife in an argument, she had this metal cone-shaped arrangement holding her hair together, and she threw it at me like Bruce Lee throwing a Chinese star -- and hit me from thirty feet! You have to be careful what you walk away from."

The main reason Cornell quit Audioslave was that the band's business issues were still in turmoil, primarily because he and the former Ragers had each kept their own management companies, who hated each other. The other members called him as soon as he left, to re-establish communication; Morello says, "We've made a concerted effort to learn from some of our past mistakes with both bands." About six weeks later, when the mix for Audioslave was finished, Cornell returned to the fold; everybody fired their former management companies, and they collectively hired the Firm. Similarly, Epic and Interscope resolved their claims on Audioslave by agreeing to take turns releasing their albums.

The reason the other guys were fighting so hard to keep Cornell? "We had a great vibe," Morello says. "We wrote and recorded more new music in eight months with Chris than we did in the previous eight years with Rage Against the Machine."

Their debut album is drawn from a nineteen-day jam session during which the band wrote twenty-one songs. After the first day, Cornell chose not to play guitar, feeling that it smeared the rhythms and frequencies, making the music less heavy. "I like playing guitar," Cornell says, "but if it's not needed, I don't make more work for myself than necessary." Still, whenever the band members got stuck with how to make a song work, they would thrust a guitar into Cornell's hands, who ended up writing a lot of bridges.

The former members of Rage had to learn how to play with a vocalist who sings melodies rather than cadences: Epic ballads such as "The Last Remaining Light" required more delicacy than they had previously employed. Or, as Rick Rubin told them, "You need to learn how to come soft."

Early on, Cornell noticed that some of Commerford's bass playing was clashing with his melodies. Cornell remembers his concern: "How am I going to tell this guy, who I don't know well and who has a tattoo over his whole body, that he can't play that note? Well, I'm pretty good at being assertive to anybody, so I said, 'Tim, you can't play that note.' " Cornell was expecting a confrontation, but instead found that Commerford wanted to know how his bass playing could best work with the singing. "From that moment, everything transformed," Cornell says. "Everybody felt comfortable bringing in things that they had never done with each other."

"Like a Stone" synthesizes a lot of those disparate ideas; it careens from belting Cornell vocals to acoustic passages to a great Morello squeegee solo. Although the title makes it sound like an answer song to Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone," Cornell says, "It's a song about concentrating on the afterlife you would hope for, rather than the normal monotheistic approach: You work really hard all your life to be a good person and a moral person and fair and generous . . . ," Cornell pauses, thinking about the afterlife he's made for himself, and he grins. "And then you go to hell anyway."

GAVIN EDWARDS
(November 5, 2002)

Rolling Stone

TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:27 PM
Well, I'll try to be around later tonight and catch some of you guys :wavey:

Dissident
11-30-2002, 05:30 PM
Im here, Hackie.
You left already? :wavey:

Dissident
11-30-2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


LOL!!:o A turkey is a large, domesticated bird rather like a chicken but bigger. Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey to be the national bird, but thankfully he lost out to the bald eagle (though maybe 'turkey' would have been a better description of our government . . .)

Here are some pictures for you. A turkey walking around and gobbling:

http://chestnut.acf.org/images/turkey.jpg


And here's what it looks like on the plate (yummy):

http://static.userland.com/images/meatfilter/turkey.jpg

It's a bit blander than chicken, but tastes more or less the same, I guess. It's usually served at Thanksgiving and sometimes at Christmas, depending on family traditions. One bird can feed up to ten people, that's how big they are.

Hope this helps :)

Yes, it does help. Thanks to you and Lee. :)

I wonder if this is what we call Chester here... :p

TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:34 PM
Yes, I'm still here, hitman :wavey: You just caught me :)

TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:35 PM
LOL, 'Chester'?!

TennisHack
11-30-2002, 05:42 PM
Did I just miss you? :(

Oh, well.

Dissident
11-30-2002, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


(from Rolling Stone)

Audioslave -- Audioslave, 3 stars

The new-old Nirvana music is hitting stores, Pearl Jam have a new album, and the early-Nineties revival seems to be close to achieving critical mass. Enter Audioslave, a supergroup fusion of Rage Against the Machine with Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell. On first listen to this blend of rap, rock and roil, the alt-rock gene seems to have won the day. One key track is "Exploder," where stinging, whiplash riffs betray a link between Soundgarden and Rage that nobody noticed: They both thought Led Zeppelin were a funk band. If angst-shattering catharsis is what you're after, "Light My Way," which ricochets and recoils like a ball-peen-hammer party in your parents' bedroom, will do the trick. There's even something for the ladies: "I Am the Highway" is a genuine pretty power ballad -- this isn't the return of alt-rock, it's the last revenge of testicle-grabbing, limo-ridin', Gibson-guitar-hero hair metal. It's a pretty tune, but also pretty hard to take seriously after listening to such words as "I am not your autumn moon/I am the night." Elsewhere, guitarist Tom Morello's outer-space feedback histrionics threaten to steal the show -- his most astonishing effect is the satellite wail and whoop he makes on "Like a Stone." Do Audioslave rock? Sure. Is that enough? Well, no. In their past lives, the members of this band were enraged. Now, fierce as they might sound, Audioslave just seem sorta engorged.
PAT BLASHILL
(RS 910 – November 28, 2002)

And it seems most listeners think the album is better than the reviewer thinks it is -- read their 5 star reviews here! (http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=2045276&cf=2045189)

Yeah, reviewers are always more fair then those fu**s that write for mags. ;)
Thanks for the article. Makes us think why the Seattle fever is back. I have a clear answer on the back of my head:
NO OTHER SOUND REVOLUTION has happened since "the dead early-nineties". We cant help. Pearl Jam is constantly criticized for being a shadow of their previous selves, but yet they are the best rock band out there.

Hackie, you would love listening to Jeff wipe the floor with Staple and the Creed on an interview he and Matt gave to MTV Brazil.
I couldnt help but remember that night you told me something similar on msn. ;)

Dissident
11-30-2002, 05:46 PM
Im still here. LOL!
Im reading the reviews you posted.

Does that animal make a sound similar to a "GLOO GLOO"? :p
If so, we call it PERU. :p

Dissident
11-30-2002, 05:59 PM
The second article is really good. Thanks for that.

I guess I felt like that because it wasnt a mag review, and since Im deadly allergic to mag reviews... :p

Im downloading the songs now. Ill come back with a feedback as soon as I get them ready. ;)

I watched the Singles movie today. What a great way to remember somethings... Anyone liked it? The soundtrack kicks ass. ;)

Dissident
11-30-2002, 06:03 PM
Looks like Im alone then...
Im already listening to AS´ songs. Cochise is on. ;)
:wavey: everybody!

Layla
11-30-2002, 10:15 PM
Hello gang! :wavey:

I just spent the whole day working (with some winter sports breaks ;) ) and I'm absolutely exhausted. But that's just the beginning. :eek: Tomorrow will be pretty much the same and the day after and the day after that... Hmmmmm, maybe I shouldn't think that far ahead. ;)

How is everyone? I see there hasn't been much activity in this thread in the last 2 days. :( I hope it doesn't mean we're collectively slacking. Right, let me just read the posts and get back to you.

Layla
11-30-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Dissident


:o Thanks I guess
lol
Matt and Jeff were on MTV Brazil this night, and they hit Creed when asked. :p

What did they say?

Chloe le Bopper
11-30-2002, 10:17 PM
I have exams over the next two weeks, so I'll be around.

:wavey: Layla

Layla
11-30-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Ok, now I have two questions... :p
First, Layla, you talked about a game cd that had a problem?? Im not sure I read what was going on before. Could I know which game you´re talking about? Or would I be butting in something I shouldnt? :o Im just curious. ;)


LOL of course you're not butting into anything. The story is not all that interesting but since you asked... ;) I explained before that I bought my first and only pc game. It's called The Longest Journey and was created by Xplosiv. It was supposed to contain 4 disks, but instead of disk number 2, there were 2 disks number 4. I already started the installation when I noticed this. So I interrupted it (I hate doing that), took the game back and they gave me a brand new box with all 4 cds.

The first problem was that the cow who handles complaints was a complete moron. She took each and every cd out to check if they were correct, only SHE TOOK THEM OUT WITH HER FINGERS, touching them all over, plus she had really long nails. :fiery: I couldn't even watch. So I take the game home and start the intallation process from scratch. The first two disks work fine, but when I inserted disk number 3, the computer announced an error and the installation was interrupted AGAIN. :mad:

Then I had no idea what to do. The first two cds were already installed and the folder was created for them (around 0.5 giga). I couldn't continue with the installation, I couldn't unistall the half that was installed, I obviously couldn't play the game. I couldn't do anything. I called the vendor, but he was clueless. I thought it might be a small scratch on disk number 3. Then I decided to write xplosiv's support an email asking them what to do. I was really surprised by their quick response. I wrote them in the late afternoon (their time) and they replied in less than 2 hours.

The guy instructed me to just delete the folder and then delete some keys that he specifically mentioned. I successfully removed the game from my computer (I hope) and then decided to give it another try (the installation took forever because I opted for maximum installation) and lo and behold, disk number 3 worked this time and I managed to instal the game. :bounce:

I'm not sure what exactly you wanted to know but I'm pretty sure that wasn't it. ;)

Anyway, it's an adventure game, because that's my favorite kind and they've almost become extinct as far as I can tell. I became crazy about them when I still had my old zx spectrum computer (a real dinosaur, which I still have by the way and still play some games on it). I'm not really into the violent, shooting games and I'm not much of a strategist. ;)

Do you have any games? Can you recommend some?

Layla
11-30-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
I went out today to try and find the Audioslave album (Layla will know what Im talking about I guess ;)), which is not out here yet. :mad: Sometimes I HATE this city´s cd stores. If you want something SLIGHTLY different from ordinary, you just dont find. :(

Anyway, I ended buying two new cds of PJ. :p Both non-official recordings.

Of course I know what you're talking about. ;) I just saw the Colchise video again. :) They keep showing it on MTV. I just downloaded the songs and I'll listen to them tomorrow.

Why don't you save yourself, and take it out on me!

Excellent. :cool:

And I know exactly what you mean about not being able to buy the music you want. I'm pretty sure Slovenia is even worse in that regard. :rolleyes:

Tell me more about the PJ cd! :D And please, continue to post PJ lyrics. ;) I love 'em. :hearts:

Layla
11-30-2002, 10:37 PM
Hi Becca! :wavey:

Which exams do you have?

Layla
11-30-2002, 10:46 PM
"I learned a lot from Kim [Thayil, Soundgarden's guitarist] -- like how to win an argument without being right."

Early on, Cornell noticed that some of Commerford's bass playing was clashing with his melodies. Cornell remembers his concern: "How am I going to tell this guy, who I don't know well and who has a tattoo over his whole body, that he can't play that note? Well, I'm pretty good at being assertive to anybody, so I said, 'Tim, you can't play that note.' "

You work really hard all your life to be a good person and a moral person and fair and generous . . . ," Cornell pauses, thinking about the afterlife he's made for himself, and he grins. "And then you go to hell anyway."

LMAO, I really adore this guy. :hearts: He just cracks me up. I'm not sure if I like his new hairstyle though. I want his beautiful black hair back, what on earth is he doing with blond spikes. :eek:

Thanks for posting the articles TH. :) The second one was really great.

Layla
11-30-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Dissident

I watched the Singles movie today. What a great way to remember somethings... Anyone liked it? The soundtrack kicks ass. ;)

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE Singles. :bounce: But I mentioned that before. :o Cameron Crowe is one of my fave directors, he's just brilliant and he has a deep understanding of music. I taped Singles a long time ago and still watch it from time to time. I must have seen it at least 6 times.

I love the humor of it. But apart from the Pearl Jam scenes, my favorite scenes are all tragic for some reason :p and they invariably involve Campbell Scott. My favorite scene is when his project is rejected and he comes to the office and his cubicle falls apart. Not just because it's symbolic of his world crumbling, the main reason why that scene is so vivid in my mind, is Cornell's song in the background. That guitar makes perfect sense at that moment. It just goes to show that sometimes the songs make the movie as well.

The other scene I love also involves music, it's the one where Campbell has locked himself in his room and he's listening to Coltrane's Blue Train. Unforgettable. The third scene I really love is when he calls her from the concert and he's really drunk. It's just very moving I guess.

Oh and let's not forget the scene with Eric Stoltz as the mime. :D

And of course Matt Dillon is absolutely hilarious. :D

But lol @ me, I'm rambling. :o I shouldn't be allowed to talk about things I love. :p

I remember reading Cameron Crowe's journal about making the Singles in Rolling Stone, which was also a brilliant read. I wish I could find it somewhere. I guess I should try the net. ;)

Layla
11-30-2002, 11:04 PM
Right, that concludes tonight's contribution to the thread. I almost wrote more than I translated. ;)

I'll just go to bed now. Good night to anyone who might be around or will be around later! Sweet dreams! :wavey:

http://www.jordysworld.de/emoticons/muede27.gif

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
Hackie, you would love listening to Jeff wipe the floor with Staple and the Creed on an interview he and Matt gave to MTV Brazil.
I couldnt help but remember that night you told me something similar on msn. ;)

Hahahahaha, I'm sure I would :D Anything that busts on Creed is good in my book :D I was watching PopUp Video on VH1 (I love that show) and they were commenting on the "Sacrifice" video. I didn't think Scott Stapp could be any more self-absorbed, but I was wrong. :rolleyes:

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
Im still here. LOL!
Im reading the reviews you posted.

Does that animal make a sound similar to a "GLOO GLOO"? :p
If so, we call it PERU. :p

I'm sorry I left now :( I had a boring afternoon. I miss my ethernet, which I'm getting back tomorrow! :bounce: So I'll definitely be around more often from tomorrow on :D:D:D

And I think I missed the joke :o

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I just spent the whole day working (with some winter sports breaks ;) ) and I'm absolutely exhausted. But that's just the beginning. :eek: Tomorrow will be pretty much the same and the day after and the day after that... Hmmmmm, maybe I shouldn't think that far ahead. ;)


Aww, that sucks :( The thread has been kinda dead, which has been good for me but not so great all-around :(

Anyway, I'm going to continue writing segments tonight and maybe post a new one tomorrow for the story. I don't want to push you if you aren't going to have time to contribute now, but I have no idea what to do after the tournament :eek:

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 01:54 AM
Well, I am definitely here alone :( so I will take my leave for the night. I'm going back to school tomorrow so I probably won't be around too much during the day, but like I said, starting tomorrow I'll be omnipresent once again :D

Where the hell is Leo?! He hasn't been around at all :( I hope he comes back with his school routine, too. I miss him.

Anyway, see you guys tomorrow! :wavey:

PS DAVAI RUSSIA!!!!!!!

RogiFan
12-01-2002, 03:42 AM
:) Hackie!

I forgot to tell you that I happened to catch Pandy on that Sabrina show this morning at around 10.30am! Don't quit your day job, Pandy! This must be a kids' show at that time of day!! :p

I think it's been snowing a bit here...

Yes, DAVAI!!!!!

ILR
12-01-2002, 10:08 AM
RF,indeed the Trafford Centre is in Manchester and speaking of which I will be going soon to watch the biggest match of the premiership.Liverpool v Man Utd omg this is just HUGE.Whoever loses will get hell in the morning at school,work etc.I just hope so badly we can win :bounce: Please win.I need you guys to pull it off.If anyone drops by,could you do me a favour and cheer for my boys,if its not much trouble ;) thanks:)

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:02 AM
Morning folks! :wavey: http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/tiere119.gif (I had honey for breakfast ;) )

Emma, we've already talked about this on the wtaworld, but here's another cheer for our team. ;)

GO LIVERPOOL! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


http://smilies.crowd9.com/contrib/A_smile_4u/Rebound.gif http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/contrib/A_smile_4u/Goal.gif


I have to go back to work now that the cross-country mixed relay is finished, so I won't be around much today. :(

ILR
12-01-2002, 11:03 AM
Hi Layla thankyou :) Hope it works.I have to go now.see ya later :wavey:

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:05 AM
Yeah, I have to go too. Enjoy the match! :wavey:

ILR
12-01-2002, 01:11 PM
And so the slump continues.:( damn Forlan scored 1 goal in about 18 games and goes and sticks 2 in today :mad: hope he enjoyed the early x mas prezzie from Jerzy Dudek.It was a shocker.:eek:A simple header backwards dropped right on the line for Forlan to follow up :sad: 2-1 the final score.Roll on tomorrow.....................

Chloe le Bopper
12-01-2002, 03:10 PM
Good Morning :wavey:

Misha and PH are playing right now :o

I want a five setter!

jcluvva
12-01-2002, 05:24 PM
Hi every1

I just tried to look at that ATP 2003 calendar again (the one in the photo gallery) but it just keeps saying the page is unavailable. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there any other way to look at it?:confused:

Chloe le Bopper
12-01-2002, 07:33 PM
I'm so happy Russia won, I can't wait to see the pics and read their interviews.

It will be very interesting to see how much attention little Misha will get after all this :eek:

But part of my is quite gutted for PH... I always root for France and Argentina, unless against Spain - but made special arrangements this year thanks for Kafel retiring likely and all... so I can't totally enjoy this like I would otherwise.

ILR
12-01-2002, 07:42 PM
Hi Becca :wavey:

To be honest I didnt mind who won because these guys werent some of my huge faves.But well done to Russia :) :bounce: and comiserations to France :(

Vera
12-01-2002, 07:48 PM
:D Really happy that Russia won their first ever DC. It's always soooooo exciting that a nation won their first. (Reminded me of a couple of years ago :D). Anyway, Misha finally got something going for him this year. He deserves this final glory after the tragedy he had to suffer. And even Zhenya didn't win any match, I like to think he is the leader of the team, that the Russians fought so hard to try to win it for him (just like the Aussie wants it for Pat).

I felt bad for PHM though, must be tough to swallow this lost after getting so close. But it's easy for me that he was playing instead of Seb or Nico or Arnald, I mean, it's tough to have to want these guys to lose when I normally cheer for them. The Frenchies should be proud anyway, they won last year in Australia is already a big accomplishment.

And my wish next year. SPAIN:D

Vera
12-01-2002, 07:49 PM
Hi Emma and Rebecca :wavey:

ILR
12-01-2002, 07:50 PM
Hey Vera :wavey:

Vera
12-01-2002, 07:56 PM
I didn't get to watch. But Nina is describing the ceremony and Paulo is still crying. :sad: Makes me want to cry too. I can't be really overjoy for this one, feeling happy for the Russian but sad for the French.

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 08:02 PM
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! Russia WON! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

I was completely NOT expecting this outcome, and I'm sooooooooo thrilled!!!! I saved a big space on my wall for Zhenya and his beloved Cup and I'm glad it came true :)

Going to see Becca's pics now :D

Vera
12-01-2002, 08:12 PM
I have to leave now.

:wavey: bye Emma and Hackie :wavey:

Mrs. B
12-01-2002, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca


Misha and PH are playing right now :o

I want a five setter!
And five sets it was! i've been watching marathon tennis today starting with Marat's match against Sebastien.

Really happy for Russia. Youzhny showed everyone that he can play and play he did, after being down 2 sets he crawled his way back into the match and won it in 5. Since i saw him play in Gstaad this summer i've added him to my fave players list. He's awesome! :D

Sorry for the French squad, esp. Paulo, he was so devastated he broke down and cried after the match, his colleagues tried to pacify him. Also after Guy Forget's speech he had tears in his eyes and Sebastien patted him on his back...:( Well, they've won it a few times, so it's good that finally Russia got it this year.

and hello to everyone!!!!! :wavey:

:D:D

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 08:12 PM
Bye, Vera :wavey:

ILR is around?

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 08:12 PM
Hey, Mrs. B!

ILR
12-01-2002, 08:14 PM
Hi all :wavey:

bye Vera,am going myself,back in a bit

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 08:16 PM
Wonderful pics, Becca! I don't think I see them all, but I did a quick sweep (still excited about Russia's win).

I'm back at school, with my wonderful ethernet chord, so let the omnipresence begin :D

Chloe le Bopper
12-01-2002, 08:19 PM
Tennishack - thats only about half of them.

Some of the better ones are too big atm.

Mrs. B
12-01-2002, 08:20 PM
Hey, Hackie!

I'm still happy for the Russians. Good ol' Misha Youzhny! and his brother was so concerned for him, making eye contact and prodding him on. :D

lol @ Boris Yeltsin! He looked like he could use a glass of vodka, which he's probably drinking right now... :D

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 08:26 PM
Okay, I definitely want to see this match now, if only for the outcome (my tape list just gets longer and longer . . . :o) I'm still ecstatic myself, I'm sure ol' Boris was pretty happy. He's a huge tennis fan.

I'm so glad Misha was able to bounce back after his tragedy earlier this year. I thought for sure he'd be down and out for the year if not longer, but he came back when his country needed him :) A special hug and :kiss: for him, he makes me so very proud!!

Mrs. B
12-01-2002, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

I'm so glad Misha was able to bounce back after his tragedy earlier this year. I thought for sure he'd be down and out for the year if not longer, but he came back when his country needed him :) A special hug and :kiss: for him, he makes me so very proud!!
aww, i'm proud of him too. i was a bundle of nerves watching his match cuz i really wanted him to do well. in spite of his unforced errors he showed heart and courage, and poor Paulo who was steamrolling in the first 2 sets was getting quieter in the 5th and Misha was getting stronger mentally.

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 08:47 PM
I think this is similar to the 2000 DC final, with two up and coming players just ready to show their stuff. I think Misha & Paul-Henri will both do big things in the next few years, and it's an exciting prospect.

Jessi has been posting pictures in GM, but I'm waiting for that special one of Zhenya with his trophy. There's a special spot on my wall for that picture, and I want it to be just right. Too bad he couldn't have been the hero of the tie, but he was the leader of the team and that's good enough for me. I'm so very happy he could end his year (and career) on a high note.

Mrs. B
12-01-2002, 08:57 PM
They showed footages of him carrying his daughter...she's so sweet. :)

Yeah, i just saw Jessi's pic and they're great.

I'll read the interviews tomorrow, i'm off early tonight, i've been watching tennis for almost 8 hours!!! But first i need to drink a calm tea...my husband says watching tennis on tv will be the death of me. ;)

This week is really busy for me but i'll drop in in the evenings...

Ciao, bella! :wavey:

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 09:11 PM
Aww, I always end up in a puddle over pictures of Zhenya with his daughter! :hearts:

LOL, I think tennis will be the death of me, too. I get so excited, even when I can't see it I'm still excited. Thank goodness I wasn't planning to do work tonight :o

Hope to see you around lots before you leave. Have fun! :wavey:

Lee
12-01-2002, 09:40 PM
Hi anybody here? :wavey:

I'm going thru the posts now.

Lee
12-01-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by miss mosquito
Hi every1

I just tried to look at that ATP 2003 calendar again (the one in the photo gallery) but it just keeps saying the page is unavailable. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there any other way to look at it?:confused:

I don't have the problem before but have it now. I have download the calendar already. I can send it to you thru e-mail if you wanted. You can leave your e-mail address in my pm if you wish.

Lee
12-01-2002, 09:55 PM
Another extremely quiet day here. Hopefully everthing back to normal coming Monday.

My feeling for today's result is the same as most ppl here that I'm glad Russia win but feel sad for France.

Although Kafelnikova didn't win a match, but he had every player dug deep to win their matches and that's what a leader is.

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Layla


What did they say?

hmmm, I posted the transcription somewhere in the SYNERGY Message board. Ill try to find. :wavey:

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:27 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

Yeah, seems like we're not very talkative these days. ;)

I'm actually very excited about Russia's first DC victory, even though I was cheering for my beloved Frenchies. So like you I feel both happy and sad at the same time. To tell you the truth, after Seb lost his match today :sad: I started cheering for Russia. :o They deserved this victory, and France can relish their other 9 victories. :p

Hehe, I knew TH would be over the moon. ;) And Yevgeny must be drunk with joy by now, even though he wasn't the hero. I had my doubts when Misha was picked over him. I felt that if Zhenya knew it was the decisive match, he might have produced some special magic of his own out of sheer desire, but as it turns out, it was a wise choice, because Youzhny really came up with the goods. What a heart he has, to come back like this from 2 sets down. :eek: I'm impressed.

Lee
12-01-2002, 10:29 PM
Hi Dissident & Layla! :wavey:

How's Gabi's art presentation the other day, Dissident?

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
[B]

I'll read the interviews tomorrow, i'm off early tonight, i've been watching tennis for almost 8 hours!!! But first i need to drink a calm tea...my husband says watching tennis on tv will be the death of me. ;)
B]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Lucky you! :D I wish I could've seen those matches. But I have my tapes of Shanghai that I can watch again. ;) If only I had time. :(

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Layla

Do you have any games? Can you recommend some?

Its good you solved the deal. I had a similar problem when I bought Phantasmagoria many years ago. It had 5 or 7 cds, and one was missing as the other was repeated.
But I just went to the store and they gave me a new one.

I have many games, basically sports or strategy ones.
If you like sports, Madden NFL is cool (if you like american football that is). For races, GP4 is great; for Tennis, The Roland Garros Series are good. I have the 1998 and the 2000. They both rock. ;)

I have the Star Wars game, a mix of adventure and strategy, called Galactic Battlegrounds, and its pretty cool.
And a strategy one is Civilization 3. That one is a massive problem: if you dont want to become a junkie, dont even touch it in the first place. :p

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:36 PM
Hi Lee and Dissident! :wavey: (looks like you're the only ones here)

I will go to bed soon. I just stopped working and I felt like dropping a post or two in the good old thread. ;)

Dissident, I listened to the Audioslave record today and I must say it's quite brilliant, certainly a lot better than I expected. But they don't sound much like RATM at all, Cornell's presence is too overwhelming. I had some trouble downloading the songs though, because most of them were demos and I had to work extra hard to located the ones from the cd itself. ;) Way to go Chris! You are still capable of amazing me after all these years. :kiss:

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Layla


Of course I know what you're talking about. ;) I just saw the Colchise video again. :) They keep showing it on MTV. I just downloaded the songs and I'll listen to them tomorrow.

Why don't you save yourself, and take it out on me!

Excellent. :cool:

And I know exactly what you mean about not being able to buy the music you want. I'm pretty sure Slovenia is even worse in that regard. :rolleyes:

Tell me more about the PJ cd! :D And please, continue to post PJ lyrics. ;) I love 'em. :hearts:

Hmm, I bought a cd called Mtv Unplugged, that of course is NOT the real one. :p They put five songs from that (State of Love and Trust, Alive, Even flow, Jeremy and Black) and some PLUS, like Last Kiss, Soldier of Love, Footsteps, Crazy Mary and some other cool songs. You have to put up with the bad quality of sound to have those ones. :p Or buy some singles, where they come as b-sides.
The other one is a show, God knows which one, with a good songlist:
Why Go
Deep
State of love and trust
Once
Oceans
Wash
Even flow
Alive
Jeremy
Porch (love this song!)
Rockin´in the free world.

Pretty cool. :bounce:

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:40 PM
Hi Lee! :wavey:

Hello Layla. Dont go to bed just yet!
Wait for me to find the transcript of that interview. ;)

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 10:41 PM
Hi, everyone! :wavey:

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Dissident


Its good you solved the deal. I had a similar problem when I bought Phantasmagoria many years ago. It had 5 or 7 cds, and one was missing as the other was repeated.
But I just went to the store and they gave me a new one.

I have many games, basically sports or strategy ones.
If you like sports, Madden NFL is cool (if you like american football that is). For races, GP4 is great; for Tennis, The Roland Garros Series are good. I have the 1998 and the 2000. They both rock. ;)

I have the Star Wars game, a mix of adventure and strategy, called Galactic Battlegrounds, and its pretty cool.
And a strategy one is Civilization 3. That one is a massive problem: if you dont want to become a junkie, dont even touch it in the first place. :p

Thanks for the recommendations (hope I didn't bore you with all the details :o ). I have Colin McRae's Rally which my brother gave to me and I just love racing. I've been checking out some tennis games (like Virtual Tennis) at the store, but all of those games are REALLY expensive (the price of 3 music cds and even those are expensive) and I can't afford them.

Lol, I have a friend who's obsessed with Civilization. It really can be a huge problem. ;) He's not allowed to touch it when he has any sort of work to do. But I'm not really into strategies. But Star Wars sounds really interesting. :)

What is Phantasmagoria? It sounds cool.

Lee
12-01-2002, 10:42 PM
Hi TH! :wavey:

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Layla


I LOOOOOOOOOOVE Singles. :bounce: But I mentioned that before. :o Cameron Crowe is one of my fave directors, he's just brilliant and he has a deep understanding of music. I taped Singles a long time ago and still watch it from time to time. I must have seen it at least 6 times.

I love the humor of it. But apart from the Pearl Jam scenes, my favorite scenes are all tragic for some reason :p and they invariably involve Campbell Scott. My favorite scene is when his project is rejected and he comes to the office and his cubicle falls apart. Not just because it's symbolic of his world crumbling, the main reason why that scene is so vivid in my mind, is Cornell's song in the background. That guitar makes perfect sense at that moment. It just goes to show that sometimes the songs make the movie as well.

The other scene I love also involves music, it's the one where Campbell has locked himself in his room and he's listening to Coltrane's Blue Train. Unforgettable. The third scene I really love is when he calls her from the concert and he's really drunk. It's just very moving I guess.

Oh and let's not forget the scene with Eric Stoltz as the mime. :D

And of course Matt Dillon is absolutely hilarious. :D

But lol @ me, I'm rambling. :o I shouldn't be allowed to talk about things I love. :p

I remember reading Cameron Crowe's journal about making the Singles in Rolling Stone, which was also a brilliant read. I wish I could find it somewhere. I guess I should try the net. ;)

I like both those scenes, and the one where the girl is in the disco, and State of Love and Trust plays (I LOOOVE THIS SONG!)
Yeah, the movie rocks. Wasnt Cameron who made Almost Famous as well? If so, he has two of my faves under his belt. ;)

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Hi Lee! :wavey:

Hello Layla. Dont go to bed just yet!
Wait for me to find the transcript of that interview. ;)

Ok. ;) I really want to see this. :)

Your cd has Rocking in the Free World!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Don't laugh but I'm a major Neil Young fan :o :o :o

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:46 PM
Hi TH! :wavey:

Long time no see! ;) Welcome to the parallel universe. :D

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:47 PM
Here you go
Prepare to crack up


Matt: We had a good time making the record, and writing it, and having a... come together and prepare for it
CUT
Matt: The process was something I´m coming away with as a really good memory.
Overall, there´s a specific underline meaning, but we just tried to make a really strong, strong record.

Jeff: I think we´re just starting to figure out kind of what, what it all means, and... I don´t think we´d ever got into any project thinking that it was gonna be... gonna have more action, or it was gonna be harder or softer, or we´re gonna try to sell more records or anything like that.

Matt: I guess the constant has been, you know, Ed´s vocals. It´s obviously a very recognized aspect of the group. But even in that, he changes his approach everytime, I mean, he´s evolving, I mean, the whole group is evolving.

- My sacrifice by Creed plays in the backgound as Scott Staple (or whatever his name is) sings in the clip.

Jeff: I´m not a big fan, so sometimes I, you know, when I listen to Creed I think "Oh my God, are we bad too?"

Matt: About Creed? Ok, ok...

Jeff: I think whenever you see some band that sounds exactly like another band, they don´t really have any crossed references or anything that´s kinda taking it to a new place, that´s when it´s a little but harder to take or listen to.

Go plays in the background and the question "And when Pearl Jam is coming to Brazil?" appears.

Jeff: We talk about it every new record...

Smiles

Matt: We just got to... we gotta check our schedule, and we haven´t really figured out the whole tour and.. cycle yet, but.. I just hear great things about bands who´ve come down there.

Jeff: I heard that Ramones is hidden in Brazil, so that´s... that´s good enough for me.

Matt: Brazil, you absolutely rock.

from http://forums.sonymusic.com/thread.jsp?forum=489&thread=1123476

Im Rearviewmirror there. ;)

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 10:48 PM
You guys and your games :o I really want to learn how to play Civilization, I see it at the store every time I go and it tempts me. I'm really in to strategy games and the like.

I think I'd also like to see the tennis games they have to offer, though I don't know how much fun it'd be just playing against the computer, or how good I'd be. But I get addicted to video games pretty easily, I go through phases, so perhaps that will have to be a summer project :D

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 10:50 PM
Layla, hahaha. I'm just going over to take a look at the thread and see your reaction to the Rivers Cuomo exclusive :D

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Hahahahaha, I'm sure I would :D Anything that busts on Creed is good in my book :D I was watching PopUp Video on VH1 (I love that show) and they were commenting on the "Sacrifice" video. I didn't think Scott Stapp could be any more self-absorbed, but I was wrong. :rolleyes:

I just posted the full transcript. ;)

You would also love MTV´s Celebrity Deat Match, Eddie vs Scott "Staple" :p
Its hillarious. :bounce:

PS - Of course Ed wins it! :D Nothing is better than the original. ;)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I'm sorry I left now :( I had a boring afternoon. I miss my ethernet, which I'm getting back tomorrow! :bounce: So I'll definitely be around more often from tomorrow on :D:D:D

And I think I missed the joke :o

Theres actually a bird that makes a sound similar to "gloo gloo". ]No jokes. :D

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Dissident


I like both those scenes, and the one where the girl is in the disco, and State of Love and Trust plays (I LOOOVE THIS SONG!)
Yeah, the movie rocks. Wasnt Cameron who made Almost Famous as well? If so, he has two of my faves under his belt. ;)

Yep, it's the same Cameron. :) He also made Say Anything, one of my favorite John Cusack movies and a really warm and funny teenage movie.

He used to be a rock journalist for the Rolling Stone and Almost Famous is basically his life story. No wonder. You can just feel how much emotion he's put into that movie. It's one of my favorite movies and the first time I saw it I spent a good portion of the movie crying my eyes out for some reason. I can't explain it, but the movie just felt like home to me. Everything about it had a warm, familiar smell of something that's been a huge part of your life. :)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
And so the slump continues.:( damn Forlan scored 1 goal in about 18 games and goes and sticks 2 in today :mad: hope he enjoyed the early x mas prezzie from Jerzy Dudek.It was a shocker.:eek:A simple header backwards dropped right on the line for Forlan to follow up :sad: 2-1 the final score.Roll on tomorrow.....................

:sad: Im very experienced with bad times on football. Youve all seen it.
And now one of the best players of my team died on a car crash.
A disaster after the other. :sad:

Layla
12-01-2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Layla, hahaha. I'm just going over to take a look at the thread and see your reaction to the Rivers Cuomo exclusive :D

I haven't read it yet. :o I'm actually half way through it. ;)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Lee
Hi Dissident & Layla! :wavey:

How's Gabi's art presentation the other day, Dissident?

Its on this Wednesday, Lee.
Shes excited. :D

*And me too* lol

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Dissident

And now one of the best players of my team died on a car crash.
A disaster after the other. :sad:

Oh, no! :sad:

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Hi Lee and Dissident! :wavey: (looks like you're the only ones here)

I will go to bed soon. I just stopped working and I felt like dropping a post or two in the good old thread. ;)

Dissident, I listened to the Audioslave record today and I must say it's quite brilliant, certainly a lot better than I expected. But they don't sound much like RATM at all, Cornell's presence is too overwhelming. I had some trouble downloading the songs though, because most of them were demos and I had to work extra hard to located the ones from the cd itself. ;) Way to go Chris! You are still capable of amazing me after all these years. :kiss:

Yes, I couldnt find three of the songs. :sad:

I loved what I heard. Its really interesting sound. I want the original NOW!!! :mad:

;)

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Its on this Wednesday, Lee.
Shes excited. :D

*And me too* lol

LOL!! You're so cute :)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Layla


Thanks for the recommendations (hope I didn't bore you with all the details :o ). I have Colin McRae's Rally which my brother gave to me and I just love racing. I've been checking out some tennis games (like Virtual Tennis) at the store, but all of those games are REALLY expensive (the price of 3 music cds and even those are expensive) and I can't afford them.

Lol, I have a friend who's obsessed with Civilization. It really can be a huge problem. ;) He's not allowed to touch it when he has any sort of work to do. But I'm not really into strategies. But Star Wars sounds really interesting. :)

What is Phantasmagoria? It sounds cool.

I downloaded the Star Wars game from Kazaa. Or was it i-Mesh? Im not sure.
Its big, like 400 megs. If you are patient enough, it goes home for free. ;)

Phantasmagoria is a trilogy, startegy mixed with terror. VERY interesting. And they are kinda old, so maybe you get them on some sale. ;)
You have to play at night, with everything closed and headphones with loud sound. :D lol

Lee
12-01-2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Dissident


Its on this Wednesday, Lee.
Shes excited. :D

*And me too* lol

It's on this Wed.? Now I believe you're very excited since I felt the presentation was very close the other day you talked about it. It seems you're the one can't wait.

And really sorry about the lost of your football team. Car crash is always a tragic.

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Layla


Ok. ;) I really want to see this. :)

Your cd has Rocking in the Free World!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Don't laugh but I'm a major Neil Young fan :o :o :o

The Touring band 2000 DVD has Rockin in the Free World as the closing act. ;)
And you can find Fuckin´ up with the and Neil together on a video from Kazaa. I have it. Pretty cool if you like Neil. Rocks! :D

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:02 PM
LOL, you guys are going too fast for me to keep up! :o

Nothing like a good chat to brighten up the cold night. It's so cold outside . . . and inside, for the first time all year the heater is not set on "Calcutta in July" mode.

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
You guys and your games :o I really want to learn how to play Civilization, I see it at the store every time I go and it tempts me. I'm really in to strategy games and the like.

I think I'd also like to see the tennis games they have to offer, though I don't know how much fun it'd be just playing against the computer, or how good I'd be. But I get addicted to video games pretty easily, I go through phases, so perhaps that will have to be a summer project :D

Hello Hackie! :wavey: How are you today?

You should definitely get Civ if you like startegy. BUT STAY AWAY FROM IT DURING CLASS PERIODS!!
Like, delete it for some time and "forget" the cd somewhere. ;)

RogiFan
12-01-2002, 11:04 PM
:) Hooray for the Russians!! They did it in dramatic fashion!! Congrats Misha!! You're a hero!! Good for Marat! ;)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Layla


Yep, it's the same Cameron. :) He also made Say Anything, one of my favorite John Cusack movies and a really warm and funny teenage movie.

He used to be a rock journalist for the Rolling Stone and Almost Famous is basically his life story. No wonder. You can just feel how much emotion he's put into that movie. It's one of my favorite movies and the first time I saw it I spent a good portion of the movie crying my eyes out for some reason. I can't explain it, but the movie just felt like home to me. Everything about it had a warm, familiar smell of something that's been a huge part of your life. :)

I felt the same :eek:
Sooooooo good!
Did I ever mention I have the soundtrack?? ;) lol

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Lee


It's on this Wed.? Now I believe you're very excited since I felt the presentation was very close the other day you talked about it. It seems you're the one can't wait.

And really sorry about the lost of your football team. Car crash is always a tragic.

Yeah, shes happy, so I will be happy too. And filming. :p

As for the second sentence, it was really bad. He was in his car, and it was raining. He lost control and fell in the sea that surrounds the city. (it was the same Florianopolis city where Guga was born).
He died because he was stuck in the car and couldnt breathe because of the water. :sad:
Terrible way to die. And he was very young, like 21 or so.

Lee
12-01-2002, 11:07 PM
Hi RF! Wow! The thread has never been this busy for the week.

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:09 PM
Hello RF! :wavey:


And now I can have a *HUGE BOUNCE* for Russia. :bounce:
And specially for Misha, who was brilliant. :bounce:

Congrats!

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:10 PM
And now the lyrics special, as I didnt post any for some days. ;)
Eddie had a long story to tell, so he did through three well know songs :D

PART ONE

"Son," she said, "Have I got a little story for you.
What you thought was your daddy was nothing but a...
While you were sitting home alone at age thirteen your real daddy was dying.
Sorry you didn't see him but I'm glad we talked."

Oh, I... Oh, I'm still alive.
Hey, I... Oh, I'm still alive.
Hey, I... Oh, I'm still alive.
Hey, ooh.

Oh, she walks slowly across a young man's room.
She said, "I'm ready for you."
Why I can't remember anything to this very day?
'Cept the look. The look.
Oh, you know where. Now I can't see I just stare.

I... I'm still alive.
Hey I... But, I'm still alive.
Hey I... Boy, I'm still alive.
Hey I... Oh, I'm still alive. Yeah.
Ooh yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh. Ooh.

"Is something wrong?" She said. Of course there is.
"You're still alive." She said. Oh, and do I deserve to be?
Is that the question? And if so, if so, who answers? Who answers!

Lee
12-01-2002, 11:10 PM
I really envy Mrs. B able to watch 8 hours of DC. Just wonder whether there will be a chance the matches being shown in US.

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:11 PM
PART TWO

I admit it. What's to say? Yeah.
I'll relive it without pain. Mmmm.
Back street lover on the side of the road.
I got a bomb in my temple that is gonna explode.
I got a sixteen gauge buried under my clothes. I play.

Once upon a time I could control myself.
Ooh, once upon a time I could lose myself. Yeah.

Oh, try and mimic what's insane. Ooh.
I am in it, where do I stand? (Stand, stand.)
Oh, Indian summer and I hate the heat.
I got a back street lover on the passenger seat.
I got my hand in my pocket, so determined, discreet. I pray.

Once upon a time I could control myself.
Ooh, once upon a time I could lose myself. Yeah waa.

You think I got my eyes closed but I've been looking at you the whole fucking time.

Ooh, once upon a time I could control myself. Yeah.
Once upon a time I could lose myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Once upon a time I could love myself. Yeah.
Once upon a time I could love you. Yeah, yeah.
Once... (x4)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:11 PM
PART THREE

Don't even think about reaching me. I won't be home.
Don't even think about stopping by. Don't think of me at all.

I did a what I had to do. If there was a reason, it was you.

Aaah, don't even think about getting inside. Voices in my head. Ooh, voices.
I got scratches all over my arms. One for each day since I fell apart.

I did, oh, what I had to do. If there was a reason it was you.

Footsteps in the hall... It was you, you.
Oh, pictures on my chest... It was you. It was you...

I did a what I had to do. Oh, and if there was a reason... Oh, there wasn't no reason. no.
And if there's something you'd like to do. Oh, just let me continue to blame you.

A footsteps in the hall... It was you, you.
Oh, pictures on my chest... It was you, you. Oh

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Hello Hackie! :wavey: How are you today?

You should definitely get Civ if you like startegy. BUT STAY AWAY FROM IT DURING CLASS PERIODS!!
Like, delete it for some time and "forget" the cd somewhere. ;)

Besides being cold, I'm great, thanks :)

Like I said, I think I might hold off on the games until the summer. Between my work, my website, and this place, I don't have time to play computer games! :o

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:19 PM
And he culminates with a "new song, but written a long time ago for the bastard that married my momma". Also a similar subject, and very well known. ;)

Waiting, watching the clock. It's four o'clock.
It's got to stop. Tell him. Take no more.
She practices her speech as he opens the door, she rolls over.
Pretends to sleep as he looks her over.

She lies and says she's in love with him. Can't find a better man.
She dreams in color, she dreams in red. Can't find a better man.
Can't find a better man. (x2)
Ohh...

Talking to herself, "There's no one else who needs to know," she tells herself. Oh...
Memories back when she was smooth and strong and waiting for the world to come along.
Swears she knew him now she swears he's gone.

She lies and says she's in love with him. Can't find a better man.
She dreams in color, she dreams in red. Can't find a better man.
She lies and says she still loves him. Can't find a better man.
She dreams in color, she dreams in red. Can't find a better man.
Can't find a better man. (x2)
Yeah.

She loved him, yeah. She don't want to leave this way.
She feeds him, yeah. That's why she'll be back again.
Can't find a better man.

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:19 PM
QUIET all of a sudden??

:(

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:20 PM
I think I missed the explanation for the trifecta, hitman? :o

Those are some of my favorite PJ songs, though :)

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:21 PM
Those four lyrics are connected, TH.
The first three were written as one big story.

If you have how, put those three songs in that sequence. Alive, Once and Footsteps. Youll get what I mean. ;)

Lee
12-01-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
QUIET all of a sudden??

:(

Trying to read the lyrics and I think it'll be better if I know the music. Have a very strange feeling about those but not yet able to pin point what?:(

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Dissident

As for the second sentence, it was really bad. He was in his car, and it was raining. He lost control and fell in the sea that surrounds the city. (it was the same Florianopolis city where Guga was born).
He died because he was stuck in the car and couldnt breathe because of the water. :sad:
Terrible way to die. And he was very young, like 21 or so.

:sad: :sad: :sad: I'm so sorry Hitman. This is so sad and so tragic that I don't know what to say, so I'll just offer some hugs. *warm HUGS

My condolences to his family, his teammates and his fans. :(

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Those four lyrics are connected, TH.
The first three were written as one big story.

If you have how, put those three songs in that sequence. Alive, Once and Footsteps. Youll get what I mean. ;)

Ahh, okay ;) Do I have all of those songs? I know I have Alive, but the other two?

Sorry, I feel stupid asking you :(

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Here you go
Prepare to crack up

Jeff: I´m not a big fan, so sometimes I, you know, when I listen to Creed I think "Oh my God, are we bad too?"

Im Rearviewmirror there. ;)

LMAO, LMAO and once again LMAO! :D :D :D He expressed that perfectly. I know exactly what he means. Hehehe, nasty. ;)

That's a great nickname you got. :D

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:34 PM
Hmm, if you have Alive, you probably have Once. Its song one of the TEN album.
Footsteps is a little harder to get, since it was released as a b-side to the Jeremy single.
But you always have the net to try a download. Its worth it. ;)

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:35 PM
TH, I've read the Weezer article and posted my comments. ;) Thanks again, it was a fantastic article. :D

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:36 PM
Oh, and Better Man is on Vitalogy. ;)

And dont feel stupid. Not everyone is a dork like me. :o

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by Dissident


Yes, I couldnt find three of the songs. :sad:

I loved what I heard. Its really interesting sound. I want the original NOW!!! :mad:

;)

I finally managed to collect all of them. I downloaded the ones that had 192 quality, even though it took much longer. My username is aurora, and I'll keep them for a while, so you can download the missing songs from me whenever I'm online (which is pretty much all the time except now cause I'm going to bed ;) ).

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:38 PM
And I posted a Pearl Jam thread on WtaWorld, so maybe I should keep this all there?!
:o

I felt like I wouldnt get many replies anywhere, but on wta is better than atp non-tennis, dont you agree?

I have some hillarious quotes from Eddie, but I dont know where to post.

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
And I posted a Pearl Jam thread on WtaWorld, so maybe I should keep this all there?!
:o

I felt like I wouldnt get many replies anywhere, but on wta is better than atp non-tennis, dont you agree?

I have some hillarious quotes from Eddie, but I dont know where to post.

Post them here, post them here! :bounce: Or better yet, post them in both threads. But so far, there are more fans of Pearl Jam in this thread than there are on the WTAworld. :(

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:43 PM
Ok...

"I wish I was a singer that remembered all the words"
after f'ing up "Wishlist."

LMAO!!
Hes great on spontaneous reactions, isnt him?

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:45 PM
Layla, I answered your burning questions about Rivers ;)

Thanks, hitman, I'll take a look and see if I can find Footsteps somewhere.

And to think, LOL, I was going to post another installment tonight ;) You guys have kept me on my toes!

Lee
12-01-2002, 11:45 PM
Dissident, I see no reason you shouldn't post your pj here.

Time for dinner and since I'm the one who will do the cooking, I must go now.

Bye! :wavey:

Lee
12-01-2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

And to think, LOL, I was going to post another installment tonight ;) You guys have kept me on my toes!

TH, can't wait to see it. Will I be able to see it later tonight?

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:48 PM
Just one more, as Ill post them in slow-motion.
Like the lyrics. ;)

"Hey, listen asshole! One more fucker throws a fuckin'
quarter out here and we’re outta here I’m tellin’ ya!
Fucker! What the fuck, you’re blowing it for fuckin’
everybody. Hit me with a fuckin' quarter again and
fuck it I’m outta here! We’re all outta here! Fuck
you! And if anyone sees someone throwing fucking
change right next to ‘em you have my permission to
personally beat the fucking holy shit out of ‘em thank
you very much, Fuckin' idiot! Aaahhh, that felt good
thank you."

LOL!

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:48 PM
LOL, I think Layla's fallen in love :) Hope you aren't freaking out too much over there ;)

And hitman, by all means post the quotes a few times, sometimes that's the only way to attract the desired audience :)

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Lee


TH, can't wait to see it. Will I be able to see it later tonight?

Yup, I'm still going to post it :) I wrote most of it last night and it's a long one, so it may be a few new posts in that thread ;)

Plus, I already know how I want to do the next one! So there will be lots of new stuff to see.

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:51 PM
LMAO!! at that last quote.

Gee, he wasn't pissed, was he? :eek: ;)

RogiFan
12-01-2002, 11:53 PM
:) Read this quote from Marat!

Safin described the feeling as being “better than sex”

;)

I knew he would be happy, but not THAT happy!! :D Well, I'm happy too!!

I love Marat!!! :p

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:55 PM
RF, I've seen several players mention that about some epic match (even Michel :eek: :o). Marat always has me LMAO, though. I wish I could have seen his reaction when Misha won it.

I'm sooooo jealous of Mrs. B!!!

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Dissident
Ok...

"I wish I was a singer that remembered all the words"
after f'ing up "Wishlist."

LMAO!!
Hes great on spontaneous reactions, isnt him?

LMAO! http://websmileys.bei.t-online.de/lachen76.gif

TennisHack
12-01-2002, 11:58 PM
LMAO, did we all jump ship?!

RogiFan
12-01-2002, 11:58 PM
:) Yeah, me too! I want to see those great matches -- like you, another couple for my ever-growing list of tapes... I have to check out that other tapes thread -- are there other sites I don't know about besides the UK one and the Italian one and tennistapes.com?? Gotta eat!!;)

Layla
12-01-2002, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
LOL, I think Layla's fallen in love :) Hope you aren't freaking out too much over there ;)


Yes, Layla is definitely in love - madly, truly, deeply. :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Dissident
12-01-2002, 11:59 PM
Im here :wavey:

My supply of things to say is gone though. :p
Im waiting because the Letterman reprise is coming up soon.
PJ will sing Save You, so I cant wait. :bounce:

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:01 AM
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW at Layla. LOL, someone had to do it ;)

And I see we're back. That's cool, guys, I can finally breathe again now that the chatting has died down a bit. :o

RogiFan
12-02-2002, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
RF, I've seen several players mention that about some epic match (even Michel :eek: :o). Marat always has me LMAO, though. I wish I could have seen his reaction when Misha won it.

I'm sooooo jealous of Mrs. B!!!

Michel said such a thing???!!!:p Not like him but then I don't know what he's like... does he have a GF? Never heard of one... Mrs. B. might know...

I've never heard Juanqui say such a thing but he did mention sth funny at RG01 about finding a girl to have sex with after impertinent journalists asked him if his coach allows him to have sex during a tournament... after Juanqui said oh, my GF is coming... oops!!

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by RogiFan
Michel said such a thing???!!!:p Not like him but then I don't know what he's like... does he have a GF? Never heard of one... Mrs. B. might know...

Yup, let me see if I can find that badly-translated interview . . .

Oh, damn, it's been removed from the website :( Well, we discussed it in the Other Swiss Players thread in Rogi's forum.

No, he doesn't have a girlfriend (also discussed in the interview). So I'm right on track ;)


I've never heard Juanqui say such a thing but he did mention sth funny at RG01 about finding a girl to have sex with after impertinent journalists asked him if his coach allows him to have sex during a tournament... after Juanqui said oh, my GF is coming... oops!!

LOL!! I bet he turned red, too. Sweetie. What the hell kinda question is that?! What do they mean, "allow"? It's his life, he's a big boy :D

Dissident
12-02-2002, 12:25 AM
:fiery:
They just CHANGED the fucking schedule of programs on the goddamned channel. :mad:

I sent a bitchy email just now. :angel:

If they dont answer untill tomorrow morning... *killer face* I will get my other nickname back. ;)

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:26 AM
:eek::eek::eek: Uh-oh. Please do what he wants, TV channel! No need for bloodshed so close to Christmas! ;):D

Layla
12-02-2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Dissident
:fiery:
They just CHANGED the fucking schedule of programs on the goddamned channel. :mad:

I sent a bitchy email just now. :angel:

If they dont answer untill tomorrow morning... *killer face* I will get my other nickname back. ;)

:fiery: :fiery: :fiery: After all that work, that's just not fair. Maybe they'll show it at some other time. :(

They are evil.

Oh and goodnight everyone! I'm trying to go to bed without much success lol. Sweet dreams! :wavey:

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:36 AM
Goodnight, Layla! :wavey:

Hmm, seems the thread has died down a bit. Dare I start working on the story? :eek:

Dissident
12-02-2002, 12:43 AM
:wavey: Layla

Yes, they are evil.
I see theres another reprise scheduled for tomorrow morning, 11 am. IT BETTER BE IT!! :fiery:
But still, they cant fucking change the fucking schedule, those motherfucker fucks. :fiery:

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:53 AM
..::crossing fingers for TV execs::..

I'd hate to see you on the warpath. The calm ones are the most deadly.

Dissident
12-02-2002, 12:55 AM
I usually have problems like these. And Im not afraid to open my mouth and hurt their ears. :p

Dissident
12-02-2002, 01:10 AM
Im going to bed now. :wavey:
See ya all tomorrow!

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:11 AM
:wavey: hello everybody. anyone here?

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:24 AM
Hi Leo! :wavey:

How are you feeling? Getting better from your cold?

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:30 AM
:wavey: Lee. yeah, i'm feeling MUCH better. thanks. :)

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:33 AM
arg, i have to go back to school tomorrow after a week off. i guess all good things come to an end. sadly. :(

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:35 AM
Look at the bright side! Your life is back to normal. :D :D

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:36 AM
CONGRATS RUSSIA! :bounce:

and a special congrats to Mikhail Youzhny, his nation's new hero. making history with his amazing comeback.. definitely have to buy this classic on tape. :D

and now Yevgeny can go out in style.. he got his wish.. :bounce:

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:37 AM
yeah, but normal isn't always a good thing.

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:38 AM
and i had to drop my sister off at her college. i miss her. :(

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
CONGRATS RUSSIA! :bounce:

and a special congrats to Mikhail Youzhny, his nation's new hero. making history with his amazing comeback.. definitely have to buy this classic on tape. :D

and now Yevgeny can go out in style.. he got his wish.. :bounce:

It seems he still need to think about it.

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
yeah, but normal isn't always a good thing.

After the chaotic days I have, normal is a very good thing.

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
and i had to drop my sister off at her college. i miss her. :(

Now I start missing all my siblings, mom, nephews and nieces in Calgary. :sad:

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:44 AM
i know, i wish i could see all my family and relatives again. :(

yeah, i'd rather not see Kaf go out just yet. he still needs to win a Masters Series title before he retires! :D and why not Wimby or the US Open?

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
i know, i wish i could see all my family and relatives again. :(

yeah, i'd rather not see Kaf go out just yet. he still needs to win a Masters Series title before he retires! :D and why not Wimby or the US Open?

Wimby?? That's for my fav Pete. Do you think Pete will come back in 2003? Zhenya can win all TMS titles he want but definitely not Wimby if Pete is there.

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:52 AM
wow, i never knew you loved Pete so much. i definitely think Sampras will return in 2003, but maybe not for a full schedule. unless he qualifies for the Masters Cup, i think he'll prolly end his season after his defense of the US Open. but i don't think Pete will go out at Wimby with a 2nd round loss to a lucky loser on the Graveyard Court. just not gonna happen. he'll be back at the AELTC next year and i hope he does well - just not too well. ;) hopefully Pat Rafter will be back next year too :D

Leo7
12-02-2002, 01:54 AM
i see Hackie! :wavey:

Lee
12-02-2002, 01:55 AM
Pete is the reason I become tennis fan! He is amazing! He never develop good baseline games cos in his hay days, he never need to.

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:03 AM
:wavey: Hey guys, just working on the story. Glad you like the newest installments. I don't have the final fully fleshed out just yet, but it's getting there.

LOL, this one was a bit longer than I expected :o

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:wavey: Hey guys, just working on the story. Glad you like the newest installments. I don't have the final fully fleshed out just yet, but it's getting there.

LOL, this one was a bit longer than I expected :o

TH, thanks again for the great story.

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
yeah, i'd rather not see Kaf go out just yet. he still needs to win a Masters Series title before he retires! :D and why not Wimby or the US Open?

If he wants to leave, he should leave. He has the Davis Cup, which he's been gunning for all year (even if he couldn't help his team to victory :(). I think he's pretty burned out as it is, and he should leave before he starts hating the game.

This from a bona fide Zhenya lover :eek:

Leo7
12-02-2002, 02:05 AM
a bit longer, but it's wonderful. cute ending too. thanks for writing that. :)

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:06 AM
I, too, think Pete will be back for Wimbly 2003. He might semi-retire until then, but no way is he going to keep that horrible 2RD loss on his record.

I personally think he should go the Zhenya route and end it on a good note (14th Slam win), but somehow I doubt that will happen . . .

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
a bit longer, but it's wonderful. cute ending too. thanks for writing that. :)

LMAO, my favorite was the "weird look". It took awhile to find that smiley, but I thought it was just perfect :D

Thanks for the compliments :)

Leo7
12-02-2002, 02:09 AM
ooh Hackie, new location i see. tough choice indeed. ;)

i can't wait until Andre retires, hopefully on a sour note. :p

RogiFan
12-02-2002, 02:10 AM
:) Hi Hackie, Leo7 and Vera!

Just popping in for a bit here! Still really satisfied with the DC ending... it's nice for Misha after losing his father this year... and nice for Marat too. I saw Yevy's daughter -- she is cute! What's her name??

RogiFan
12-02-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
ooh Hackie, new location i see. tough choice indeed. ;)

i can't wait until Andre retires, hopefully on a sour note. :p

:) Let's hope it's sooner rather than later! :p

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
I, too, think Pete will be back for Wimbly 2003. He might semi-retire until then, but no way is he going to keep that horrible 2RD loss on his record.

I personally think he should go the Zhenya route and end it on a good note (14th Slam win), but somehow I doubt that will happen . . .

I think it depends on the power of baby Christian. Being a father will definitely change Pete's prospects for the games but I'm not sure how big it will be.

Leo7
12-02-2002, 02:12 AM
:wavey: RF! i know, finally a nice end to the year. i was so pissed last year after Australia lost to France. poor Pat. :sad:

so how many pounds did we put on over Thanksgiving? :D

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:12 AM
RogiFan: Ayesha is Zhenya's daughter's name :)

Leo: :o LOL re: location. And I hope Agassihole completely cracks on court and is kicked out of a tourney again, so scandalous he can't return to the game :D

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
ooh Hackie, new location i see. tough choice indeed. ;)

i can't wait until Andre retires, hopefully on a sour note. :p

I guess AA won't retire until Pete does. He just hate it that Pete has his number.

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:16 AM
Awwww!! :hearts::hearts:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021201/capt.1038754426.france_russia_davis_cup_xpar107.jp g
Watching the Safin-Grosjean match

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:17 AM
YESSSS!! Here it is, the pic that's going on my wall:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20021201/i/1038779361.2550333519.jpg

Leo7
12-02-2002, 02:17 AM
awwwwwwww she's so adorable :hearts: :D

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
awwwwwwww she's so adorable :hearts: :D

Emma may get jealous! :D :D but she's adorable.

Leo7
12-02-2002, 02:21 AM
lol Lee. :D

*yawn* i'm exhausted so i'm gonna hit the sack. have to get up early tomorrow for school - too early. :(

:wavey: bye everybody!

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:22 AM
Goodnight Leo! :wavey:

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:26 AM
Bye, Leo!

:sigh: SO happy I found that pic of Zhenya. It's perfect :) ..::goes back to stare :o::..

RogiFan
12-02-2002, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
:wavey: RF! i know, finally a nice end to the year. i was so pissed last year after Australia lost to France. poor Pat. :sad:

so how many pounds did we put on over Thanksgiving? :D

:( I was disconsolate over Aussie's loss last year! I felt so badly for Wayne Arthurs and Pat Rafter... to lose 2 yrs in a row!! Too much...

I think Pat is enjoying being a dad... that's so nice!! It's good to see that he and Pete have a life outside of tennis, unlike another player whose name we shall not mention!

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:33 AM
I was disconsolate over Aussie's loss last year! I felt so badly for Wayne Arthurs and Pat Rafter... to lose 2 yrs in a row!! Too much...

I have the same feeling too. Just as I feel so sorry about Arnaud not playing the final 2 years in a roll.

I think Pat is enjoying being a dad... that's so nice!! It's good to see that he and Pete have a life outside of tennis, unlike another player whose name we shall not mention!

lol RF!

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:36 AM
Leo posted this in the Russian forum, but what the hell. It deserves a place here, too :)

Interview with the Russian Team

Q: I would like to ask to Youzhny if he's surprised of what he achieved today. How much are you surprised? Before the match, what was your feeling?

MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: You know, before this match, when I go to warm up, I didn't really know if I would play last match. But I was good. I try play my best tennis. First two sets, it was not so good, but after I play like I can play.


Q: Can you say what was your emotion at the last point of the match?

MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: No. It was no emotion. I don't understand what's happens. I just know we're winning. I was very glad after the match.


Q: Marat, how is the taste of this victory compared to the US Open?

MARAT SAFIN: It's two completely different stories. I mean, when I won the US Open, I couldn't believe that I could beat Pete Sampras in the finals. I was still too young to win that kind of tournament. I was so happy, but I didn't know how to enjoy it. Right away I had to fly to Tashkent to play another tournament.
This victory, you know, it's a team tournament. We won, we're basically the world champions this year. We have nothing, I don't have to go to any tournaments, I don't have to rush, I don't have to do anything next week, so I have to enjoy. I will enjoy, of course.

I want to congratulate all my team, all the players. They deserve it. Yevgeny, he played great. He saved so many times the Russian team. Our captain, he was great. He was perfect. He was supporting us during all the match. Thank you very much.
Of course, Mikhail for today's victory that basically nobody expect that he could win after two sets 2-Love down. He surprised I think even himself. He showed that he's a real man, he's a Russian man, he knows how to fight, he knows how to come out of such a difficult situation. Thanks a lot for the victory.
I'm so happy, I'm so glad. I cannot describe what I'm feeling right now. It's just something that is just so great, it's the best. Better than sex, you can say that (smiling).


Q: Yevgeny, you were not very supportive during Mikhail's match. Can you tell us why? We saw you speaking a lot on the phone, not paying much attention.

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: To be honest, I was paying too much attention. Maybe I talk once or twice during the time.
Believe me, when you are trying to support your fellow teammate as much as you can, sometimes you're running out of energy. (Zhenya knows what it's like to be a fan!) That's what's probably happened during my first match when Marat played. He played a tough match against Grosjean. Second match, I at least knew that we're going to be here for long, long match. That doesn't mean on my mimics that I wasn't supporting Mikhail. I was trying to do it as best as I could. Sometimes you're unable because you're sitting on the bench.


Q: Yevgeny, you say a few weeks ago if you win the Davis Cup...

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: Yeah, yeah, yeah. (LMAO!!!! Love you, Zhenya dahling!!)


Q: So?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: So the final statement will be made through next week.


Q: Next week?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: Yes. Let me explain once again. It's very enjoyable moment for me right now. I do respect what I said before. Like I told you, the final decision will be made throughout next week.


Q: You won the Davis Cup final with two very, very young players. What does it mean for the future, Youzhny and Safin, to have two players like this 20 and 20 years old?

MARAT SAFIN: 22 (laughter).

Is such a difficult question. We didn't think so far already what was going to happen in the future. We just want to enjoy the moment. I think it's great to have two young players, but still I don't think Yevgeny is still too old. 28 years old, it's just the beginning of your career (smiling).

I think he will stay for another year. He will join us on the team and bring a lot of support for the Russian tennis. He's very important for us and for tennis in Russia. I think he will make a decision to stay one more year, just enjoy the moment. Anyway, he has nothing to do because he dedicate himself during already more than 20 years for tennis. I think it's his life and his job, and he loves it. I think he will stay and welcome very much Mikhail with such great success, that he give the opportunity to whole Davis Cup.

We're looking forward for the future. Of course, you have to enjoy first of all this victory and then to think about next year, next matches of Davis Cup.


Q: Yevgeny, was it a difficult situation to give your place to Misha or not?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: It depends from which angle you're going to look at it. Probably my ego was saying that I should play, but realistically I felt like he was going to give the best effort than I could. You know, lately he was playing well, and I wasn't.
It was tough, but I did everything for the best interest of the team. You know, right now I'm proud what I have decided. It's definitely best team effort that we probably see.


Q: You're not a little bit disappointed after all your efforts for the past in Russia? You've won, but is it disappointing to have not been actually playing at the final moment of victory?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: You could say that. Like I told, you know, my ego is now somewhere probably back in Siberia. It's in the best interests of the team I did. It's in the best interests of the team. You know, that's why it's a team competition. Sometimes you've got to put your personal ambition somewhere else, where no one wants to see that. That's what happened.

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:39 AM
Russia beats France 3-2 for first Davis Cup title
By MICHAEL McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer
December 1, 2002

PARIS (AP) -- No deficit was too daunting for Russia or Mikhail Youzhny in the Davis Cup final.

Russia became the first finalist in 38 years to overcome a 2-1 deficit, beating defending champion France to claim its first title when Youzhny fought off a two-set hole in the last match Sunday.

Youzhny, a ball boy the last time Russia played in a Davis Cup final, stunned Paul-Henri Mathieu 3-6, 2-6, 6-3, 7-5, 6-4 to give Russia a 3-2 edge in the best-of-five series.

"When I was down two sets to love, I told myself: 'I have to play my game, I have to do my best,''' said Youzhny, at 20 the same age as his opponent. "I won this match because I'm in top form. And even though I'm young, I already have experience in big matches.''

Russia is just the sixth team to win a Davis Cup final after trailing 2-1. The last was Australia against the United States in 1964.

After the last point -- Mathieu hit a service return long -- the Russian team rushed onto the clay court, lifted Youzhny above their heads and began throwing him repeatedly into the air.

Each of Russia's team members then got a hug from former President Boris Yeltsin, who walked over from his seat in the stands.

"It was really a tough match,'' Russian captain Shamil Tarpishchev said. "I've never had such a tough match as the captain of the Russian team.''

Youzhny entered with a 1-4 record in Davis Cup play. But he was chosen to replace two-time Grand Slam tournament champion Yevgeny Kafelnikov, who was tired after playing singles Friday and doubles Saturday -- losing both.

Kafelnikov had said he would retire if Russia won.

That seemed unlikely at the start of Sunday, when France held the lead and hoped to continue another trend: The team winning the doubles had won the previous 24 Davis Cup finals.

But Marat Safin, the 2000 U.S. Open champion tied the final by defeating Sebastien Grosjean 6-3, 6-2, 7-6 (11) in the day's first match. Then the 32nd-ranked Youzhny came back to top Mathieu.

"Yevgeny was tired after the doubles,'' Safin said. "So we decided to put the young player. Why not?''

Youzhny picked up the last service break in the seventh game of the final set to go up 4-3, and he won the match by holding serve at love.

Russia lost Davis Cup finals in 1994 and 1995.

France was seeking its 10th Davis Cup title and first back-to-back championships since 1932. The French won last year's final in Australia.

French captain Guy Forget appeared to hold back tears as he thanked fans and players during the awards ceremony.

"I put forward the best French players, but you guys were too strong for us,'' he said, looking at the Russian players.

He then turned to his own team: "Several times we've spoken of the 'magic recipe,''' he said. "It's the unity between us that gives us strength. I guarantee, if we keep this state of mind, we will win again.''

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 02:41 AM
Russia wins Davis Cup as replacement Youzhny takes five-setter
December 1, 2002

PARIS (Ticker) -- Untested Mikhail Youzhny replaced Russia's greatest tennis player to give his country its biggest triumph.

Youzhny rallied for an unprecedented five-set triumph over rookie Paul-Henri Mathieu of France in the fifth and deciding match to lift Russia to its first Davis Cup win Sunday.

After Yevgeny Kafelnikov was trounced in Friday's singles and took part in a five-set loss in Saturday's doubles, Russian captain Shamil Tarpischev decided to replace the two-time Grand Slam champion with Youzhny, who overcame nerves to post a 3-6, 2-6, 6-3, 7-5, 6-4 victory on the clay courts of the Palais Omnisports Paris Bercy.

"When I was two sets down I decided to carry on playing my game and see what happened," said Youzhny after the four-hour, 17-minute match. "I felt no emotions at all. I simply could not understand what was happening. And then suddenly I felt pure happiness.

"I tried to do my best while being led two sets to none, I was fully fit today, that is what helped me win."

Russia kept alive its hopes of winning the Davis Cup trophy for the first time with Marat Safin's 6-3, 6-2, 7-6 (13-11) defeat of France's Sebastien Grosjean in the first of Sunday's reverse singles matches.

A team had not come back from 2-1 down to win the title since Australia defeated the United States in Cleveland in 1964.

Youzhny, 20, became the first player in the competition's 102-year history to come from down two sets to love down and win a decisive fifth rubber. Ranked 32nd in the world, he looked out of his element when he went down 0-4 in the second set.

At 0-3 in the second, Youzhny appeared close to tears as he sat with his head in his towel at the change of ends. His teammates shouted encouragement as he was being humiliated in only his second live Davis Cup rubber and sixth overall.

But Youzhny regrouped and performed far better than did Kafelnikov, a former world No. 1 who stated early in the year that his main goal was to win the Davis Cup for Russia. Throughout the season, Kafelnikov maintained that if Russia triumphed, he would end his career.

With his focus on the team competition, Kafelnikov's performance during the ATP calendar suffered. He won two events, but finished with his lowest ranking (27) since 1993. He looked slow against Grosjean on Friday and tired in Saturday's doubles.

"Before the match my ego was saying that I should play but I thought that Mikhail would be able to play better than me," Kafelnikov said. "I thought about the team's interests first. Sometimes it is good to bury your ego in Siberia and put your personal ambitions aside for the well-being of the whole team."

Kafelnikov had almost singlehandedly led Russia to the finals to 1994 and 1995 before losing to Sweden and the United States, respectively.

A ball boy at those Davis Cup encounters in his native Moscow, Youzhny began his comeback with a break of serve in the fourth game of the third set.

In the fourth, the Russian fell behind, 4-2, but won the next two games and broke serve in the 12th game. He hit an incredible running backhand winner and Mathieu hit wide to send the match to a fifth set.

Youzhny jumped to a 3-1 lead but allowed the 20-year-old Frenchman back into the set in the sixth game. He bounced back in the next game as Mathieu hits just long on break point, and took a 5-3 advantage with an ace.

With Russia four points away from victory, Youzhny quickly went ahead 40-0 before an overhit service return from Mathieu sparked celebrations from the Russian team.

Youzhny was hoisted in the air by his team, and former Russian president Boris Yeltsin stepped out of the crowd of about 15,000 - 1,500 of them Russians - to congratulate the nation's new hero.

"Even when we were led two sets to nil I still believed we could make it," Yeltsin told French television. "Youzhny has a very strong personality and a huge fighting spirit, he proved it today. France has already won while this is the first time for Russia. I was like a mascot for them."

Mathieu, who made his Davis Cup debut Friday in a respectable loss to Safin, was reduced to tears and comforted by his team.

"Paul-Henri has given all he could and he had against a guy who was also ready to give all he had," French captain Guy Forget said. "This defeat is the defeat of the whole group, there is no blame to be made on `Paulo' He was strong. I am sure he will become the key member of our team in the next two years and I am convinced we will win a lot of other Davis Cup trophies with him."

France was aiming for its second straight Davis Cup triumph and 10th overall.

However, the Russian team was jubilant. Safin proclaimed winning the cup was "better than sex."

"This victory is too great, I feel so happy that is hard to explain with words," he said. "We all played well and deserved it so much. Youzhny showed that he was a real Russian man capable of fighting when needed."

And Kafelnikov, who is undergoing surgery Monday to remove a varicose vein from his left leg to alleviate persistent foot pain, said he will rethink his decision to retire over the next few days.

Safin is hoping Kafelnikov sticks around.

"It is great to see that both myself and Mikhail are the future of Russian tennis," the third-ranked player in the world said. "But Yevgeny is only 28 and he is still young. Yevgeny has done so much for Russian tennis. It's been great having him on the team and I think he will stay another year, he is too important for our team. Tennis is shi life, he has already dedicated his past 20 years to it and I think he will decide to stay."

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:58 AM
TH, thanks for putting the articles here. I not yet able to cruise around for them.

DC is really great in a way that you win or lose not just depend on how good the players are. Both Russia and French (so as Spain and Australia) showed that you need team spirit to win DC. US team will have a long way to win the Cup again even they have their best players.

Congrat again to the Russians esp. Zhenya. Also, I think Marat is now inching his way into my fav tennis players list. His sense of humor is incredible and he matures a lot during the last 2 years. His maturity will likely help to fix his head during matches in the coming years.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:06 AM
Hi Guys :wavey:

So many pages, I need to read them. :)

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 03:07 AM
You're welcome, Lee. I think you make a great point, team spirit and comraderie do make the difference when it comes down to the live 5th rubber. The US, well, I'm not going to put them in contention until they have better players -- and can cause some damage without the egotistical Roddick. It saddens me, this change in his personality, but I think he could have been a great force for American men's tennis.

Oh, well. :(

And LOL, I used to hate Marat. Couldn't stand his on-court antics. But thanks to this board, and some amazing matches I've seen this year, I'm warmed up to him. He really is an amazing personality, always willing to be the practical joker or class clown :D I really wish him success in the coming years, and think he will get it. The tie did nothing but help, I think.

RogiFan
12-02-2002, 03:07 AM
:) Hi Lee! I have to go soon! What a day, eh??? Wow! Still over the moon about Russia!!! DA!!! Good night! :angel:

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 03:09 AM
Hey, Vera :wavey: shameless plug New installments, too! shamless plug

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 03:09 AM
RF: me, too. I think I've just gotten more excited as the night has progressed.

Sweet dreams! :wavey:

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:10 AM
It's a bit late but I just find a pic of DC double.
http://photo.eastday.com/epublish/gb/paper5/20021202/class000500004/image/img833062_1.jpg

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by RogiFan
:) Hi Lee! I have to go soon! What a day, eh??? Wow! Still over the moon about Russia!!! DA!!! Good night! :angel:

Goodnight RF and sweet dreams! You'll probably dreaming about the moon.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:12 AM
Hi Vera! :wavey:

Congrat your Canuck winning 10 in a roll. WOW! And I can't believe the Flames can lost 10 out of 11 in Nov.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Hey, Vera :wavey: shameless plug New installments, too! shamless plug

hehehe, Hackie, can't wait to read that one. What's PMac going to say this time:D . In fact, I was watching TMC JC/Moya match, the first set that I didn't get to see in my TSN coverage. PMac was still going against Juanqui, praising Carlos like crazy. I really want to kick his ass.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by Lee
Hi Vera! :wavey:

Congrat your Canuck winning 10 in a roll. WOW! And I can't believe the Flames can lost 10 out of 11 in Nov.

:o Ya, I'm so so so happy about that. This is incredible, I mean, 13 games ago, they were barely getting to 500 and the whole city were still in a panic mode, who would have thought they will win the next 12 of 13 games :D. I kinda feel like it's a dream and wish we won't wake up from it. On the other hand, felt sorry for Flames and their fans, Iginla's still slump at the bottom of the Rocky, what's going on?

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 03:23 AM
Well, the downside to being back in school is I have to go to bed early :( And I'm facing another busy week of work, but I'll be around more often than not :)

See you tomorrow! :wavey:

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by Vera


:o Ya, I'm so so so happy about that. This is incredible, I mean, 13 games ago, they were barely getting to 500 and the whole city were still in a panic mode, who would have thought they will win the next 12 of 13 games :D. I kinda feel like it's a dream and wish we won't wake up from it. On the other hand, felt sorry for Flames and their fans, Iginla's still slump at the bottom of the Rocky, what's going on?

I have no idea. I just read a report and it seems even the owner of the team don't even border to watch the game........My guess the coach, Gilbert, will be on the chopping board soon if things not turning around soon like the Sharks.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:25 AM
Good night, Hackie. :wavey:

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:29 AM
I'm still reading the past posts. Are you still around, Lee?

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:31 AM
The US, well, I'm not going to put them in contention until they have better players -- and can cause some damage without the egotistical Roddick. It saddens me, this change in his personality, but I think he could have been a great force for American men's tennis.

One good thing with James Blake coming along is it take a lot of focus and pressure out from Roddick. Hopefully, Roddick will be a bit more mature (like the progress we see in Marat) down the road. I honestly think a new coach for Roddick will do him good. Unfortunately, right now I can see any young players in US have a better potential than Andy. James is good but I can't see he will have a better future than Andy.

And LOL, I used to hate Marat. Couldn't stand his on-court antics. But thanks to this board, and some amazing matches I've seen this year, I'm warmed up to him. He really is an amazing personality, always willing to be the practical joker or class clown I really wish him success in the coming years, and think he will get it. The tie did nothing but help, I think.

I esp. like what he said about Zhenya after winning DC. He provides a gracious way for Zhenya to come back if he wants to.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:32 AM
Goodnight TH! :wavey:

Yes, Vera, I'm still around.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:38 AM
Okay, finally done (well, I skipped those articles, will come back for them later since I can only stay for another 20 so mins).

I just want to say don't forget about Marat's contribution. I mean, it's true that Misha won the last match and get the Cup. But without Marat's 2 wins, it can't be done. I really think Marat's a different person when he comes to play for his country. He played the SF and Final brilliantly eventhough he slumped some tourneys in between. Just want to say the whole Russian team deserved it, every one of them.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:41 AM
So, Lee, how's your Thanksgiving. I read that you did some major shopping. My sister said next year, she would come to Canada during Thanksgiving, she wants to line-up in front of Best Buy and get some major bargain... (but it's not up to her now, bcos my nephew said he's coming without mom but he's only 4 :)).

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by Mrs. B

i've been watching tennis for almost 8 hours!!! But first i need to drink a calm tea...my husband says watching tennis on tv will be the death of me. ;)


Geez, major envy, Mrs. B. That 8 hours didn't show up on my TV, but on my tennis purchase list.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:47 AM
Well, no way I'll line up 4am in the morning to buy something. I did lots of shopping, not just Friday but Saturday too. I had to go back Saturday bcos one of the sweater I bought for my god daughter's X'mas gift has a run. So I had to go back to the mall and end up shopping again. The mall I went is a very big one and I actually didn't finish shopping there on Friday as we were too tired.

I can understand why a 4 years old prefer going to Canada instead of going shopping with his mom after Thanksgiving. I wish I am living that close to Calgary like your sister to Vancouver so that I can just drive back anytime I want.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Dissident


:sad: Im very experienced with bad times on football. Youve all seen it.
And now one of the best players of my team died on a car crash.
A disaster after the other. :sad:

Very sorry to hear that :sad:

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Okay, finally done (well, I skipped those articles, will come back for them later since I can only stay for another 20 so mins).

I just want to say don't forget about Marat's contribution. I mean, it's true that Misha won the last match and get the Cup. But without Marat's 2 wins, it can't be done. I really think Marat's a different person when he comes to play for his country. He played the SF and Final brilliantly eventhough he slumped some tourneys in between. Just want to say the whole Russian team deserved it, every one of them.

Unfortunately, Marat is expected to win but not Misha. That's the difference. I always believe Marat will play very good in DC. One reason is his major problem is in his head. In DC, he knows he has teammate supporting him and also, the team captain can fix his head whenever neccessary.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Vera


Geez, major envy, Mrs. B. That 8 hours didn't show up on my TV, but on my tennis purchase list.

Do you think its wishful thinking that ESPN or TSN will buy the DC final and broadcast the matches?

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Lee
Well, no way I'll line up 4am in the morning to buy something. I did lots of shopping, not just Friday but Saturday too. I had to go back Saturday bcos one of the sweater I bought for my god daughter's X'mas gift has a run. So I had to go back to the mall and end up shopping again. The mall I went is a very big one and I actually didn't finish shopping there on Friday as we were too tired.

I can understand why a 4 years old prefer going to Canada instead of going shopping with his mom after Thanksgiving. I wish I am living that close to Calgary like your sister to Vancouver so that I can just drive back anytime I want.

I went a little shopping too, well, gotta do X'mas shopping sooner or later, so might as well. My nephew enjoyed the trip very much, bcos here, there's more ppl to play hockey with him. My sister complaint that she can't work after her son get home after school, bcos he kept making her and my brother-in-law played hockey with him (well, it would be baseball when baseball is in season).

Anyway, I just realized that today is December. Gosh, time really fly these days.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Lee


Do you think its wishful thinking that ESPN or TSN will buy the DC final and broadcast the matches?

ESPN is possible, but TSN, pfffffff, never in a million year that will ever happen.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:56 AM
Sounds like your 4 years old nephew is a dynamite. It will improve when he gets older and when he starts grade 1.

Vera
12-02-2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by RogiFan

I've never heard Juanqui say such a thing but he did mention sth funny at RG01 about finding a girl to have sex with after impertinent journalists asked him if his coach allows him to have sex during a tournament... after Juanqui said oh, my GF is coming... oops!!

OMG, did that happen? This is funny and I've never heard that. :D

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Vera


ESPN is possible, but TSN, pfffffff, never in a million year that will ever happen.

Well, lots of time TSN will play what's on ESPN.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:59 AM
News time here! Goodnight Vera! :wavey:

Vera
12-02-2002, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Lee


Well, lots of time TSN will play what's on ESPN.

But not during the hockey season. The broadcast Leafs game live, then replay the same game the same day on friday :rolleyes: can you believe that.

Vera
12-02-2002, 04:11 AM
Bye Lee. :wavey:

Vera
12-02-2002, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
:wavey: RF! i know, finally a nice end to the year. i was so pissed last year after Australia lost to France. poor Pat. :sad:


I was at a bookstore in the afternoon and browsing some sports books. The tennis Davis Cup 2001 book caught my eyes. When I read about last year's final, there's a picture of Pat in the presentation ceremony, standing in front of the big DC trophy, his both hands covering his whole face. I can't see his face at all, but I can imagine there's tears in his eyes. So sad.:sad:

Vera
12-02-2002, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Awwww!! :hearts::hearts:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021201/capt.1038754426.france_russia_davis_cup_xpar107.jp g
Watching the Safin-Grosjean match

Thanks for the great pic. I love seeing Zhenya and his daughter, they are both so sweet together. And thx for the trophy pic. :)

Vera
12-02-2002, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Interview with the Russian Team

Q: Yevgeny, you were not very supportive during Mikhail's match. Can you tell us why? We saw you speaking a lot on the phone, not paying much attention.

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: To be honest, I was paying too much attention. Maybe I talk once or twice during the time.
Believe me, when you are trying to support your fellow teammate as much as you can, sometimes you're running out of energy. (Zhenya knows what it's like to be a fan!) That's what's probably happened during my first match when Marat played. He played a tough match against Grosjean. Second match, I at least knew that we're going to be here for long, long match. That doesn't mean on my mimics that I wasn't supporting Mikhail. I was trying to do it as best as I could. Sometimes you're unable because you're sitting on the bench.

Can't believe they said that, accusing him of not being supportive :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: Ahhhhhhh, I'm pissed.


Q: Yevgeny, you say a few weeks ago if you win the Davis Cup...

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: Yeah, yeah, yeah. (LMAO!!!! Love you, Zhenya dahling!!)

Q: So?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: So the final statement will be made through next week.

Q: Next week?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: Yes. Let me explain once again. It's very enjoyable moment for me right now. I do respect what I said before. Like I told you, the final decision will be made throughout next week.

And what the hell does these ppl want, push him into retirement right that minute? :fiery: damn these ppl. :fiery:


Q: Yevgeny, was it a difficult situation to give your place to Misha or not?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: It depends from which angle you're going to look at it. Probably my ego was saying that I should play, but realistically I felt like he was going to give the best effort than I could. You know, lately he was playing well, and I wasn't.
It was tough, but I did everything for the best interest of the team. You know, right now I'm proud what I have decided. It's definitely best team effort that we probably see.

Q: You're not a little bit disappointed after all your efforts for the past in Russia? You've won, but is it disappointing to have not been actually playing at the final moment of victory?

YEVGENY KAFELNIKOV: You could say that. Like I told, you know, my ego is now somewhere probably back in Siberia. It's in the best interests of the team I did. It's in the best interests of the team. You know, that's why it's a team competition. Sometimes you've got to put your personal ambition somewhere else, where no one wants to see that. That's what happened. [/B]

And can you blame him for feeling a little disappointed? Damn, this interview makes me mad. :mad:

Vera
12-02-2002, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack

Safin is hoping Kafelnikov sticks around.

"It is great to see that both myself and Mikhail are the future of Russian tennis," the third-ranked player in the world said. "But Yevgeny is only 28 and he is still young. Yevgeny has done so much for Russian tennis. It's been great having him on the team and I think he will stay another year, he is too important for our team. Tennis is shi life, he has already dedicated his past 20 years to it and I think he will decide to stay."

I hope you're right, Marat. But if Zhenya decided to go, I'll be happy for him, just like for Pat. I just hope that he leaves on his own term, not because of what other said and think. I know he said he will retire, but it's not a bet nor a promise to anyone anyway. So those stupid reporters, leave him alone.:(

Vera
12-02-2002, 05:44 AM
My happy spirit got spoiled a little by these reporters. But it is really a great day that Russia won. Anyway, nothing can't be cured by a good night of sleep so off I go:)

tennisaddict
12-02-2002, 11:00 AM
:wavey:

I am going to bed now though :o

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:31 PM
Good morning, thread :wavey: It appears I'm the first one around today :)

It's very cold, still. Only supposed to be two marks above freezing, with a hellish wind chill all day. These are the days I hate, the bitterly cold wind ripping right through you :(:( Plus it's Monday and that means the beginning of the work week.

Ah, well. Only one more week of classes, then exams, and I'm home free :)

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Vera
I hope you're right, Marat. But if Zhenya decided to go, I'll be happy for him, just like for Pat. I just hope that he leaves on his own term, not because of what other said and think. I know he said he will retire, but it's not a bet nor a promise to anyone anyway. So those stupid reporters, leave him alone.:(

I would love, love, love for Zhenya to play another year. He's proven what he wants to prove and he could relax under the pressure, because he'd just be playing for himself again :) But I think he's tired. He's been playing tons of tennis for ten straight years (that workhorse schedule of his) and he should leave singles before he starts resenting it, or himself. I can't imagine that he'd leave all together, cold turkey, but maybe that's just a little part of me hoping he'll play and defend his doubles titles next year, including at Roland Garros :o;)

He's in a good moment, as he said. I think it was very smart of him not to make his decision while his state of mind was so altered. I really like Zhenya's ability to be brash but funny at the same time. Very Russian :D

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Vera
My happy spirit got spoiled a little by these reporters. But it is really a great day that Russia won. Anyway, nothing can't be cured by a good night of sleep so off I go:)

Funny, I had a different reaction to the interview. I guess I've accepted the fact that reporters are going to ask stupid questions (especially after those Masters Cup interviews), and frankly I was a little curious myself about his answer to the retirement question now :o Zhenya handled it the way he always handles things. He really has very little tact when reporters are asking these questions, and I think it's the right track sometimes. His mouth has gotten him in trouble before and I kinda find that appealing. Not afraid to say what he thinks.

Anyway, I thought the interview was funny, which is why I reposted it. Didn't mean to get you upset :( But like you said, the day was still wonderful because Russia finally won :) It hasn't quite sunk in yet for me, and I'm sooooooo pissed that ESPN didn't show the final (and I don't think they ever will), so I'm hoping a bit of that happiness will carry me through the day today :)

ILR
12-02-2002, 02:29 PM
Hi :)

I always seem to miss the damn convo's :( I see Hackie is still plugging shamelessly;) and Dissident(it feels weird callin you that! lol) Thats really sad to hear about that player from your team.:( My 2nd cousin died in a car crash a few days ago and she was only 17.Its such a tragic thing to happen and so young.Im home early from exams and I only have to be in school for 10am!:D Thats the best bit I spose.

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:45 PM
Good morning/afternoon everyone! :wavey:

Don't have much time to chat! I need to go out for a few errands. The weather is miserable today and close to freezing this morning.

ILR
12-02-2002, 02:52 PM
Hiya Lee :wavey:

The weather is sooo awful.My umberella blew inside out walking home and I was absolutely freezing!

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Vera
My happy spirit got spoiled a little by these reporters. But it is really a great day that Russia won. Anyway, nothing can't be cured by a good night of sleep so off I go:)

Vera, hope you'll feel better today. Those reporters didn't spoil Zhenya's spirit and I think he handled them splendidly.

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:56 PM
Hi Emma! :wavey:

Seems like we have miserable weather everywhere. I know the north east part of US has bad weather today and poor Leo has lots of driving to do this morning.

Lee
12-02-2002, 02:58 PM
Emma, how's your exam today?

ILR
12-02-2002, 02:59 PM
Hmmm well I had maths and bilogy today both higher papers but I think I did OK.Some of the questions I just didnt have a clue but hopefully I should be at B's at least ;) but these are not the real ones so...........

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
Hmmm well I had maths and bilogy today both higher papers but I think I did OK.Some of the questions I just didnt have a clue but hopefully I should be at B's at least ;) but these are not the real ones so...........

It's still good results anyway. Biology was the one I did excellently in mock (got an A) but flunked miserably (got a D, at least not failed) in the real one. The college I intended to go turned me down because of this but ended up I got into one that was better.

ILR
12-02-2002, 03:11 PM
thats a shame :( Id hate that if my mock results were a lot higher than the real ones.I dont know what Id do.But I also finish school an hour earlier aswell so thats cool :)

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:17 PM
When I was turned down by the first one, I was so upset and cried. But, as I said, I ended up in one that's better and this not just affected me academically, but also in other aspect of life.

ILR
12-02-2002, 03:21 PM
thats good that it worked out better:) I cant imagine being rejected by the college Im planning to go to.I dont think there is one that is within walking distance.

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:26 PM
Well, I didn't have one within walking distance but that's not a criteria since I lived in a big city and everyone hopped on a bus to work or school.:D :D

ILR
12-02-2002, 03:30 PM
yeh this is about 10 minutes walk lol.But thats not the reason why I want to go.They are biulding a brand new sports hall!:Dlol

Lee
12-02-2002, 03:34 PM
I see. Wish you luck with that. Anyway, I gotta go!

Bye! :wavey:

Mrs. B
12-02-2002, 03:34 PM
Hi Guys!!!

:wavey:

:D I'm still very happy from yesterday's match, a bit tired from all that tension, had to do errands and still have work to do, but overall, feeling ok.

Absentminded me! I went to the tennis club to get my wok and other things which i'll need for cooking on Friday, locked the place up, did my shopping, went home, and bam, remembered the wok still outside the door!!! I had to go out again to get it..:o It's one of those days. While cooking some Chinese mushrooms i poured the water out and used my hand as a sift not realizing it was still very hot so my fingers are burnt. I'm getting feeble!!! :o

Emma, sorry to hear about your team's loss yesterday... :(

ILR
12-02-2002, 03:36 PM
thanks :) bye Lee and Hi Mrs.B :wavey:

oh man lol please do not mention it!;) I still love Dudek even though he has a huge nose!:o bless him.;) Mrs.B what are you like??lol awww at least you feel OK though.:)

Mrs. B
12-02-2002, 03:46 PM
I did mention that this week was gonna be hectic, i'm catering for 20 people on Friday night, it's a Xmas party (they're early here), and i'm making a buffet of Asian food, plus the apero and desserts, and the drinks. I have 2 assistants and one will be around already on Thursday to help me prepare my stuff. Still, the shopping and driving is driving me insane. (& absentminded) ;)

ILR
12-02-2002, 03:54 PM
it is kind of early.Well the exams round x mas is driving me crazy!:mad: its so unfair.But on a lighter note we'll be putting our decorations up on Sun :)

Mrs. B
12-02-2002, 03:58 PM
i'm totally skipping decking the halls with boughs of holly ;) as we're leaving on Tuesday, guess i'll put up my Xmas decor back home in the islands...:)
i bought MORE toblerones today!!! there's still room in my duffel bag. :D also 4 packs of Haribo. :D

ILR
12-02-2002, 04:00 PM
*sigh* you and all your chocoalte!:p mmmm I love having a huge x mas dinner then hogging a big tin of Roses or something :)

Mrs. B
12-02-2002, 04:10 PM
pardon my ignorance, but what's a tin of Roses?

ILR
12-02-2002, 04:13 PM
mmm its a lovely tin of chocoaltes all mixed,cocnut,caramels,hazelnuts etc. :lick: seeing as we cant post piccies.......http://images.familyhealth.com.au/dietclub/library/cadburyroses.jpg

Mrs. B
12-02-2002, 04:23 PM
yummm, they look delicious...and i'm getting hungry again.

I should finish my work in the kitchen, i'm preparing one of my dishes for Friday and i'll bake it and cool it then put it in the freezer. It's one task done. Then i'll pop by here again later...still have to read Hackie's part of the musical.

later! :wavey:

:)

Francine
12-02-2002, 04:23 PM
:wavey:

:bounce: RUSSIA :bounce:

Wow, two great matches! I saw the first one between Marat and Grosjean, but Dutch tv stopped broadcasting after that one, and showed some stupid Belgian detective. Those people really don't understand tennis :fiery: Anywayzzzz, 4 weeks without tennis, hmmmm, that's a long time baby.....

RogiFan
12-02-2002, 04:24 PM
:) Hi I'm back!

Boy is it cold out there! No snow but just freezing!! Are we talking chocs again? They sell those Roses here, ILR! Poor Mrs. B. -- how's your hand? I know about being absentminded... I always forget where I put things since I have so much junk around the house!

I bought some Spanish turron for gifts here -- like nougat and almonds and stuff. Also bought some Cadburys gift packs too!! Yum!

Why can some people post pix and some can't??? I don't get it!

When I was in high school, we had exams in Jan. -- so that meant you couldn't really relax over Christmas... better to get them over w before then.

Just think, Mrs. B., in about a week you'll be basking in the warmth while we freeze our tushes off!

I guess I should have some lunch...

ILR
12-02-2002, 04:25 PM
Bye Mrs.B and RF :wavey: might be off myself!

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Absentminded me! I went to the tennis club to get my wok and other things which i'll need for cooking on Friday, locked the place up, did my shopping, went home, and bam, remembered the wok still outside the door!!! I had to go out again to get it..:o It's one of those days. While cooking some Chinese mushrooms i poured the water out and used my hand as a sift not realizing it was still very hot so my fingers are burnt. I'm getting feeble!!! :o

:eek: Aww, poor Mrs. B. I can see it's been one of those Mondays for you, too. I'm having a really hard time getting back into the school routine myself, I managed to be soooo relaxed during my break that it's hard to become disciplined again :o

Sounds like you're going to be busy nonstop until you leave :eek: But fun nonetheless, unlike taking exams and writing papers like I have to do :o:( And LOL at you and your chocolates!! I might have to buy some more Toblerone myself soon. It's become my new favorite comfort food :o

TennisHack
12-02-2002, 04:28 PM
Hi, Francine :wavey: At least you were able to see some of the matches. ESPN couldn't give a horse's hide, and instead they showed a reality series. A reality series about Alcatraz! On ESPN! I was sooooooo pissed. :fiery:

LOL, bye to RF, ILR, and Mrs. B :wavey: I'm going to hop around myself while I still can.

Francine
12-02-2002, 04:39 PM
Aaaaah, Alcatraz on ESPN? Guess I was lucky then :D

Well, I'm of to have dinner :wavey:

Vera
12-02-2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Funny, I had a different reaction to the interview. I guess I've accepted the fact that reporters are going to ask stupid questions (especially after those Masters Cup interviews), and frankly I was a little curious myself about his answer to the retirement question now :o Zhenya handled it the way he always handles things. He really has very little tact when reporters are asking these questions, and I think it's the right track sometimes. His mouth has gotten him in trouble before and I kinda find that appealing. Not afraid to say what he thinks.

Anyway, I thought the interview was funny, which is why I reposted it. Didn't mean to get you upset :( But like you said, the day was still wonderful because Russia finally won :) It hasn't quite sunk in yet for me, and I'm sooooooo pissed that ESPN didn't show the final (and I don't think they ever will), so I'm hoping a bit of that happiness will carry me through the day today :)

I guess I overreacted. It makes sense that the reporters are only interested in his retirement issue. But besides feeling happy for Zhenya yesterday, I also felt really sad to see him leave the game. It's like a good friend is moving away and I will never see him again that kind of feeling. Well, it's okay, the important thing is that he is happy about his decision :). I also like the way he answers question, he's blunt but he never sounds cocky, IMO. I think he's a really smart man. :)