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Leo7
10-17-2002, 08:17 PM
okay, i have to go and make up a test. i only came by to check the scores.

congrats juanqui! :bounce: is he playing Agassi next or did Lopez make the upset? oh well, i'll found out later.

:wavey: bye!

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 08:17 PM
Good to see this side of Fabrice again :)

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
hey, did someone say ESPN showed this match today? OMG, thank god i taed it! yes! i will FINALLY get to see Juan Carlos play on tv! :D

and i thought ESPN would show Agassi as usual :rolleyes:

Agassi started an hour after their coverage (2 pm) and I saw in the Rogi forum, RogiFan said she turned on the coverage expecting to see Carlos Moya and saw Juan Carlos instead!

I'm SOOOOOOO happy I taped it too!! They did something nice for once!

Layla
10-17-2002, 08:22 PM
TH, I forgot to tell you that Daniela also won her match, but only just. The score was 3-6 7-6 (4), 7-6 (6) and she did well to get though this bizarre match that swung this way and that. I didn't pay really close attention to the match as I was working but just a few quick notes. I'm sorry to say that Dani wasn't playing all that well. The match was littered by unforced errors by both players. She was really struggling but all credit to her for hanging in there while knowing she wasn't playing her best tennis. She had to save 4 match points in the 2nd set, but afterwards she played much better and finally found her rhythm. :) Elena cried when she left the court. She knew she had every opportunity to win the match but Daniela's determination to win was just too strong. And Dani is a better player after all, so she deserved to win it. :) It will give her so much confidence. She did well not to panic when made all those unforced errors and was still going for her shots.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021017/capt.1034879584swisscom_challenge_klo138.jpg

Layla
10-17-2002, 08:26 PM
Ooops, I see you've beaten me too it while I was composing my little essay (I had to do it twice cause I accidently lost it :o ). Ok, I'll just delete the second pic, seeing as it's the same one. ;)

Hey you two, don't forget to give us your reports you lucky, lucky souls. :) I want to find out what happened in the last two sets. ;)

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I'm sorry to say that Dani wasn't playing all that well. The match was littered by unforced errors by both players. She was really struggling but all credit to her for hanging in there while knowing she wasn't playing her best tennis. She had to save 4 match points in the 2nd set, but afterwards she played much better and finally found her rhythm. :) Elena cried when she left the court. She knew she had every opportunity to win the match but Daniela's determination to win was just too strong. And Dani is a better player after all, so she deserved to win it. :) It will give her so much confidence. She did well not to panic when made all those unforced errors and was still going for her shots.

That's too bad that Dani was playing badly :( I guess it was a letdown from last week. I'm surprised Kim is still playing so well :eek:

But I'm glad she won it. I think, like you said, that it will give her confidence to know she can still win even when she's not playing her best :)

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Ooops, I see you've beaten me too it while I was composing my little essay (I had to do it twice cause I accidently lost it :o ). Ok, I'll just delete the second pic, seeing as it's the same one. ;)

Hey you two, don't forget to give us your reports you lucky, lucky souls. :) I want to find out what happened in the last two sets. ;)

LOL, I beat you to it again ;)

I won't be able to see this tape for awhile, so I guess Leo (or Vera, if she watched today) will have to tell us what happened. I'm dying to know myself!

Layla
10-17-2002, 08:34 PM
Ok, as long as somebody does. I'm so curious to know what happened. :)

I forgot to add that Daniela's serve was very good today, while Elena made something like 14 double faults :eek: (or even more, I forget).

Anyway, I'm happy Daniela won too. :) Who is she playing next?

Kimmy and Lindsay play against each other again. :mad: And again in QF. Pfffffft. I want to see them in the final. ;) One of them better win tomorrow. ;) :p

Layla
10-17-2002, 08:36 PM
Wow, it's funny how nobody cares about Agassi's match in the results thread. :p They're in the second set tie-break. :eek:

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 08:36 PM
:eek::eek::eek: And Lindsay is defending this week! Will prove to be an interesting match . . .

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 08:39 PM
Well, I have to run. I'll be back later.

Hope Agassi goes down!! :fiery: Get off my scoreboard, LOL!

:wavey:

Mrs. B
10-17-2002, 08:39 PM
Hey, Hackie!

I got your pm but i couldn't respond cuz it says your mailbox is full!!!

Layla
10-17-2002, 08:41 PM
Fuck, fuck, fuck! :mad: Sorry for swearing :o The two QF matches they will show on Eurosport are Martinez - Stevenson :rolleyes: and Henin's match. No Lindsay vs. Kimmy. :sad: That really sucks big time. No Lindsay or Kimmy at all this week. I bet if they show only one semi-final, it will be the other one. :fiery:

Mrs. B
10-17-2002, 08:42 PM
Anyway, hello guys!:wavey: :wavey:

Just got in, been watching Dokic's & Stevenson's match in ZH. Alex won in 3 sets, btw.

:)

Layla
10-17-2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Well, I have to run. I'll be back later.

Hope Agassi goes down!! :fiery: Get off my scoreboard, LOL!

:wavey:

lol, Lopez just won the second set, so anything is possible. :)

Hi Mrs. B! :wavey:

Mrs. B
10-17-2002, 08:50 PM
So Juanqui won! Great news, and sorry about Alex...:(

and i did watch Dani & Dementieva's match, it was not a great match but happy to see Dani win it...

Layla
10-17-2002, 09:05 PM
Today's rivals.

http://www.tennis-masters-madrid.com/news/pictures/images/pic-17-10-02-n01-g.jpg

John.Charles
10-17-2002, 09:05 PM
OMG....i wanted to cheer on JC w/ you guys during the live match when i was @ skool but something was wrong with my account...damnit :mad:

oh well i am happy 3-6 6-0 6-1

JC served a bagel and a breadstick for lunch...it was quite filling


......i kept saying to myself all day..."I hope they show JC's match"...and low and behold when I got home rewound the tape in the VCR and played...I saw a very familiar blond face....i was like "aaallrigght!"....finally ESPN does something smart. ;) :D

so right now i'm watching it....

PEACE

Layla
10-17-2002, 09:07 PM
lol jcsting, come back to tell us all about it. :)

Vera
10-17-2002, 09:09 PM
Hi everyone :wavey:

Congrats to Juanqui and Seb :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Damn that Novak for taking out Carlos :sad: :sad: :sad: Carlos must be so very disappointed. :( I'm disappointed too, there goes my all spanish final hope. And Lopez is fighting so hard right now. What a high quality match, I supposed. None of them has lost a serve yet! But Go Feliciano, take Agassi out, then we'll have another all spanish match tomorrow.

Okay, I was just so surprised that ESPN showed JC, I thought it would be Moya. But I have to go watch the tape and I can tell you guys all about it. Well, I can give you a little bit since I did catch the last few games. JC's strokes were powerful, they both wiping the ball pretty hard. And Mal and Jimmy Arias, the commentators said JC had raised level after the first set. Played a lot more aggressive and he felt confident...He's hitting a lot more winners than Alex. Alex looked a little out of sort, but maybe JC is playing so well and forcing him to run around and swing late. They kept saying that Alex should go up to the net, serve and volley :confused: Okay, maybe he should, but he's not exactly a brilliant serve and volleyer and JC has some killer passing ability! Anyway, it looked like a good match. So I'll go watch the tape and come back with more detail report.

Later, guys:)

John.Charles
10-17-2002, 09:26 PM
quarterfinal

Ferrero VS Agassi


tomorrow 1.00 pm on ESPN! :D
(they will show it because Agassi is the only AMERICAN left ;) )


Ferrero leads series : 1 - 0 :bounce:

RogiFan
10-17-2002, 09:51 PM
:) OK, Juanqui, just DO it! Destroy AA!!! Prove you're better than he is, on a surface other than clay!

VAMOS, JUANQUI!!!!

I want to see you beat that guy!

He will want revenge BIG TIME!

[and get that 1st serve % up while you're at it -- oh, and reduce those UE!] :p

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Hey, Hackie!

I got your pm but i couldn't respond cuz it says your mailbox is full!!!

:eek: Well, we shall remedy this problem quickly!

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Vera
kept saying that Alex should go up to the net, serve and volley :confused: Okay, maybe he should, but he's not exactly a brilliant serve and volleyer and JC has some killer passing ability! Anyway, it looked like a good match. So I'll go watch the tape and come back with more detail report.

Later, guys:)

I can't wait to see the full report! :)

LOL, I guess these guys didn't see the brilliant matches Juan Carlos played against Mr. All Serve No Shots Wayne Arthurs, who has tried repeatedly to defeat our boy by serving and volleying. Whoops, didn't work :D

BTW, Mrs. B, I cleaned out my box. I wish it'd tell me when that happened.

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 10:15 PM
If ESPN is really going to show this match tomorrow (which they will since they can), someone had an epiphany and decided Spanish guys playing in Spain, people will want to see that.

I can't wait to see my tape for the whole week, because Juanqui has the ability to wipe the floor with Agassi, and he will!!

I just hope PMac & CDri are commentating for ESPN in America, that's the only reason I want to watch this weekend! I will be quite disappointed if they're gone.

Layla
10-17-2002, 10:26 PM
Lol RogiFan! :D

You guys are all so lucky. *sigh* But I was lucky in the previous weeks so it's your turn now. :) I'm glad ESPN is discovering the value of Spanish players and particularly of Ferrero. :D

I can't wait to follow tomorrow's match. Unfortunately, I will have to leave before it ends and be nervous until I get back. :(

Layla
10-17-2002, 10:28 PM
I want to know how come Yahoo has ZERO pics of Juanqui AGAIN! They did that in the previous match as well. They showed everyone (repeatedly) except him. :( I want some more pics! :p

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 11:16 PM
:rolleyes: I guess we can't win over all of the American outlets in one day.

I will be just the opposite, Layla--I will miss the first hour :eek: because of class and then I will run here and continue to follow the match. I have to say, though, Agassi struggled against Lopez and once Juanqui woke up he played brilliantly. It might be a three setter but I see Juan Carlos coming out on top ;)

LOL, I've gotten a lot of exercise this week with all this dashing back and forth. Thanks, dahling! ;):kiss:

TennisHack
10-17-2002, 11:18 PM
Agassi Sets Up Quarter-Final Clash with Ferrero
38 minutes ago
By Kevin Fylan

MADRID (Reuters) - Andre Agassi won a late night battle of wills to see off Spanish wildcard Feliciano Lopez 7-6 6-7 7-5 at the Madrid Masters Thursday and set up a quarter-final meeting with Juan Carlos Ferrero.

Agassi needed every ounce of his resolve to beat Lopez, a tricky left-hander with a gigantic serve who was roared on by a packed crowd at the Madrid Rockodrome.

Lopez saved a match point on his own serve in the second-set tiebreak before finally giving Agassi a chance in game 11 of the third, double-faulting on the first of three break points.

The American second seed, serving with a 6-5 lead, missed his second match point but eventually clinched victory in two hours 23 minutes with a punched forehand beyond Lopez's reach.

"It's disappointing that someone had to lose a match like that," Agassi said. "I was prepared for him but I just couldn't do anything with his serve."

Agassi will go on to face Ferrero in a rematch of the French Open quarter-final won by the Spaniard.

Ferrero, seeded fifth, was also taken to three sets by Alex Corretja (news) but his 3-6 6-0 6-1 victory was easy by comparison.

Corretja took advantage of some sloppy mistakes from his opponent to win the first set but Ferrero finished up playing near-perfect tennis from deep behind the baseline.

Frenchman Sebastian Grosjean, seeded seventh, moved smoothly through to the last eight with a 7-6 6-1 success against Mikhail Youzhny of Russia.

The Frenchman goes on to meet Agustin Calleri, the Argentine qualifier who overcame 15th seed Thomas Johansson of Sweden 6-4 6-4.

That was a blow to Johansson's hopes of making the Tennis Masters Cup in Shanghai at the end of the season.

Johansson, the Australian Open (news - web sites) champion, needs to move up from 14th at the start of the week to overtake Albert Costa (news), who was in eighth place, to take the last berth open to a grand slam winner ranked between eight and 20.

NOVAK CLOSING IN

Also putting his Shanghai places in jeopardy was Carlos Moya (news), who missed a match point before going down 6-7 6-4 7-5 to the dangerous Jiri Novak.

The Czech was in 11th place going into Madrid but he is now closing in on one of the top seven places in the ATP Entry System and a spot in Shanghai.

After two evenly matched sets Spaniard Moya, the number eight seed, served for the match at 5-3 only for his nerve to fail him.

Moya then missed a simple backhand for the match with Novak serving at 4-5 and paid the price as the number 11 seed roared back to break in the next and serve out for the win in two hours 17 minutes.

The two first matches of the day were both one-sided affairs.

Paradorn Srichiphan of Thailand scampered his way to a 6-4 6-2 success against Ivan Ljubicic of Croatia, while Fabrice Santoro of France was enjoying an even simpler 6-0 6-2 victory over David Nalbandian of Argentina.

Paradorn, who beat Brazil's Gustavo Kuerten (news) and British fourth seed Henman in the first two rounds, made it three classy wins out of three as he ran Ljubicic around the court.

Layla
10-17-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
:rolleyes: I guess we can't win over all of the American outlets in one day.

I will be just the opposite, Layla--I will miss the first hour :eek: because of class and then I will run here and continue to follow the match. I have to say, though, Agassi struggled against Lopez and once Juanqui woke up he played brilliantly. It might be a three setter but I see Juan Carlos coming out on top ;)

LOL, I've gotten a lot of exercise this week with all this dashing back and forth. Thanks, dahling! ;):kiss:

Awww, so we'll just miss each other. :( Well, I guess we could call it division of labor. ;)

LOL @ the exercise bit. :D The reason I'm going to miss the end of his match is that I have an aerobics class. :o

Layla
10-18-2002, 12:16 AM
I'm going to bed. I'm quite exhausted as I just finished working.

Good night! :wavey:

See you all tomorrow to celebrate another victory. ;) Sweet dreams. :)

Leo7
10-18-2002, 12:22 AM
:wavey: g'night Layla! sweet dreams darlin. :D

Leo7
10-18-2002, 12:28 AM
poor elena d! i don't like this girl and i wanted daniela to win, but she had 4 match points! if she won today, she would have had a great chance to reach the Final 16 in the Season-Ending Champs on the WTA! BIG BIG BIG opportunity missed...

davenport/chanda lost today to bovina/henin in 2 tight sets. but Lindsay still has the singles. she'll play Kim tomorrow in a rematch Quarterfinal of last week in Filderstadt (won by Kimmy in 3). will Lindsay let her younger foe beat her for a 3rd straight time? i hope not. GO LINDSAY! make this an extra special week. ;)

Leo7
10-18-2002, 12:45 AM
Juanqui could move up to #3 in the Race if he beat Andre tomorrow (he will). :D VAMOS!!!

Leo7
10-18-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by jcsting
quarterfinal

Ferrero VS Agassi


tomorrow 1.00 pm on ESPN! :D



yes! VAMOS JUANQUI! prove those damn american espn commentators wrong by beating andre ;)

Vera
10-18-2002, 01:21 AM
Okay, here comes my report. Hope you guys enjoy it!:D (I won't be going point to point but will mention those big good one)

Commentators are Malival Washington and Jimmy Arias. They opened the program with, guess what? Replaying some RG clips :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: blah blah blah... Mal asked Jim if it's bcos JC not a big match player that he didn't win RG. Jim said, he didn't think so bcos JC is the hero of Spain winning DC, that's big time...Thank God, he did win DC for Spain, or he'll forever been doomed, or be called nasty name like....

First game Alex serve. They (always mean the commentators) said Alex's game, which he's taking the ball early and hit it flatter in this indoor court. At 30 all, JC hit a beautiful cross court winner to get to break point, then Alex DF and give the game to JC.

The crowd is very quiet. JC serves, his first serve is not on. Alex on the other hand seems rushing. By 30 all second game, Alex has 5 UE, JC 1 UE. Next point, Alex has a great approach, come to net and put an overhead away, gets a BP. Another winner to open court, Alex won the break back.

1 all Alex serve. His second serve, he come to net to volley, but JC hit a cross court passing shot, winner 0/15. Then 2 errors from JC, Ace from Alex and a slow return from JC, quickly to Alex 2-1.

JC missed another first serve, 2nd serve not good, Alex hit a winner cross court, 0/15. Alex at this point, overpowering JC, flattening out his forehand and hit another FH down the line winner. He took the ball early. 0/30. Alex goes for another winner down the line, but wide, 15/30. JC seems to be pressing a bit now. hit a cross court but wide, BP. 2nd serve again but a good one, Alex put into net. 1 BP saved. Another 2nd serve combined with a good cross court FH, lots of spin, another BP saved. By now, JC's first serve percentage is only 45%. But then, he hit an Ace to get to game point. 2nd serve, cross court winner. Game 2-2.

Alex serves, but hit an error 0/15. Good serve to 15 all. Then Alex serve and volley, but hit long 15/30. JC another error 30 all. They both seems struggling on serve. Pretty sloppy so far. Alex hit an Ace to 40/30. Next point, JC gets to net, and played a drop volley to get the game to deuce. His first time to the net, and Mal started saying how he would never come to net last year...and he needs to improve the net game...blah blah blah. Alex then serves a body, S/V, JC tries to get out of the way and hit a short return, Alex volley winner. At this point, Mal and Jim both agree that Alex is the more aggressive one (bcos he serve and volley:D) Alex hold 3-2.

JC serves. Alex BH winner, cross court winner, 0/30. Then the next point, JC comes to net but Alex' lop sent him running back to the baseline and he hit a between legs, but clipping the net. Usually PMac will just start laughing at a between legs shot. But Jim was nice to say that it's not too bad, if the ball went over the net, bcos it's so low, Alex will have difficulty handling it. So good for Alex that it didn't go over the net. Alex broke at love. Mal and Jim liking Alex's aggression.

Alex serve, come to net and force JC to hit wide, then another winner 30/0. DF followed by a good serve pushing JC wide to open the court, half volley, forced an error from JC. 40/15. Then, first serve, Alex hit a short ball, JC unloaded and hit a huge FH winner. An angry forehand they said, to show his frustration, maybe he should get angry more. 40/30. Error from JC, game to Alex. 5-2.

JC serves to stay in the match. 30/15. He's only winning 50% of first serve that went in. Second serve 4 of 11. Not good serving so far. Alex won 80% of his first serve when it's in and 9 out of 19 for second. UF error, JC 5, Alex 14. Alex is the one taking more risk so far and controlling the outcome. But did get the game 5-3.

Alex serving for set. First point, Alex mishit, ball fly to the stand. 2nd point, he got JC running on defense but hit really wide again. Alex showing a little nerves 0/30. Then it's JC's turn to put in some error, 15/30. JC powerful FH, Alex scramble to return, open the court for JC to hit a winner. 15/40. Alex has a good body serve, get to the net to hit a winner, save BP. Next point, JC went for a big FH winner but got the tape. Deuce. Another JC error, Alex gets to Set point. Then, a 27 strokes rally. Both hitting the ball very hard. JC came to net, but force to hit a weak BH overhead mid court. Alex force him back to the baseline. They exchanged shot, running around, JC finally try to hit a big top spin FH but went long. Point of the match, Mal and Jim gets excited. Alex won the first set.
JC 8 W/7UE. Alex 15W/14 UE.

2nd set:
JC big first serve winner followed by DF. 15/15. His first serve won 6 of 11. Second serve won 6 of 13. Still not serving well. Next point, a big dipping passing shot from Alex, JC at the net, FH volley drop to the open court, Alex can't reach. Then JC put in a first serve winner. Another error from Alex and game JC 1-0.

Alex looks a little shaky now. Mal and Jim think he started looking shaky when he last serving for the set. But JC's *silly* errors gave the set to Alex. Alex serving. JC big cross court winner. Then followed by another big FH forcing Alex to return long. 0/30. Alex S/V, put a great approach shot down the middle deep enough to touch the baseline. But JC hit a passing shot with an amazing angle. Mal thinks Alex was surprised that the ball returned so he couldn't get there. Another Alex error. He got broke @ love.

Mal at this point, started praising JC. Said JC is one who's no matter at what point of the game, is able to hit winners anyway. . He said one can't be sure bcos JC can always come back from trailing. Then Jim joined in. Saying that JC is one who never gives up, he's not one that can be discouraged, that he'll just keep fighting.:D :D :D Okay, I like Mal and Jim.

Next game, Alex' not putting much of a fight. Lots of error, JC won this easily. Then I think they cut one game out cos after commercial, it's 4-0.

Alex is getting really sloppy. Mal and Jim think maybe he's thinking about next set. JC comes to the net and put a BH volley solidly at 30/0. Alex at net, JC try to lop but didn't past Alex, and he overheaded a winner 30/15. Mal wants JC to start serve and volley now. :rolleyes: Okay guys, one step at a time. He did come to the net 2 times this game and won both point. Alex net point is getting less successful. JC won this one. 5-0
JC UE 10 Alex UE 20.

Alex serve to stay in. First 2 point ended in errors. 15 all. Then, JC hit big, pulling alex wide and then a big cross court, too much to handle for Alex. 15/30. Jim now thinks that JC has raised his level quite a bit, Alex dropped a little but he still thinks that JC raised level is contributing to his getting control of the game. JC is clearly more agressive and hitting winners more in this set. The set ended in Alex DF. Set 2 to JC.
Alex's 1st serve won 12/20 and 2nd 15/25.

Mal thinks now Alex needs to up his 1st %, and Jim thinks he needs to S/V.

3nd set.
JC serve, error from Alex. Then 2nd point, 2nd se. JC hit a big FH, pinned Alex at the baseline and hit a beautiful drop shot. JC than Ace, and a good serve give him chance to get to net and hit CC winner. 1-0

Alex is getting beaten at baseline, Jim said. Error, Ace, Error... another BP for JC on Alex's serve. Jim continues, saying that Alex is not playing his typical style, not as much top spins. That's why he is making a lot of errors. So Jim said Alex should S/V:confused: :rolleyes: (Now it really got me. He's making a lot of errors bcos of changing his style, so let's make more drastic change...hmmm, that makes a lot of sense. Granted though, he got beaten at the baseline, so it's not much he can do there, maybe?) Crowd started making more noise, to support Alex. He needs that. It's deuce now. Great long rally. Alex hit a deep approach, come to net and JC's lop long. Alex Av. Then, he SERVES and VOLLEY! Won the point and took the game. Mal and Jim were overjoyed. Fighting to claim the credit. Jim said "See, he listened to me, S/V". Mal said, "Ya, he listened to me too, put a first serve in and up his first serve %") lol @ both of them:rolleyes: 1 all

JC DF, then Alex's error, JC then puts in another error, 15-30. Jim thinks that JC is getting a little shaky now. Maybe he's losing a little confident since Alex seems to come back to the game. At this point, Jim thinks the momentum is not on both side, they are even, he said. JC W21, UE14, Alex W18, UE 27. Then JC Ace his serve, back to 30all. Jim thinks he gained some good back from that ACE. Another good service winner, then next point, big GH to corner winner. JC 2-1.

Alex serve, a winner and an error, 15 all. Net helped Alex, 30/15. Then next point. Alex hit a really deep approach shot but JC whipped a passing shot cross court and it's a winner. It really is a good approach and Mal agreed. Jim said Alex's needs to hit a heck of an approach if he didn't want to get passed by JC. (Damn right, then stop saying he should S/V). 30 all. Alex seems now want to S/V, but he's missing his first serve. He just put 2 errors and gave the break to JC. 3-1.

JC serves. He's very aggressive, his shots are deep at the baseline and very powerful, forcing errors from Alex. 40-0. The last point, Alex released some frustration and hit the ball long. Poor Alex, seems like he had enough. JC 4-1.

Alex serve, JC a FH winner. Then another very powerful rally from JC, forcing Alex to run cross court, then he ran around his FH and hit a weird looking shot, a winner Alex can't reach. It appeared that JC hesitated, he wants to hit a drop shot, but he changed his mind at last min, hence a weird looking shot. JC couldn't help but smiled a little, probably thinking:"Wow, what a silly shot and I still got away with it.) Jim called this faked drop shot but not really, he can't really named the shot. But he said, when a player hesitated, they usually hit an error, JC hesitated and hit a winner, everything is coming to his way. 15/30. JC seeming in control at the next point, then he came into the net, Alex just hit a beautiful cross court pass winner. 30 all. Alex gave another error, he seems pressing now. BP. Then DF, Game to JC 5-1. Alex is very frustrated, he wants to throw his racquet but he didn't.

JC serving for the match. 2 sloppy errors, 15 all. Big FH from Alex, JC returned long 15/30. JC runs around for a FH down the line winner 30 all, he held the ball to last min so it made it hard for Alex to read which direction he's gonna hit. Then, Alex, another errors. JC made Alex runs corner to corner, then JC came to the net, just to see Alex hitting a running FH down the line beautiful passed him and landed inched inside the baseline. Deuce. JC, another big FH cross court forced an error from Alex. Match point. JC hit a shot low and short, close to the net, drawing Alex to come to the net and hit an error. JC won. He smiles, but not a big celebration. He just looks pleased and satisfied.

Leo7
10-18-2002, 01:43 AM
great report vera. much better and more descriptive than mine. lol! :o

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 02:27 AM
Thanks for the report, Vera. Not point by point, eh? ;) I can't wait to see this tape!!

Congrats again, Juanqui! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Leo7
10-18-2002, 02:59 AM
yah, i wasn't loving this new commentator Jimmy Arias either. and i've always hated Mal Washington b/c he has no idea what the fuck he's talking bout. can't belive i'm saying this, but i want PMac and Cliffy D back in the commentator booth on ESPN! enough with these two idiots. :rolleyes: but i think we'll have Jim and Mal for the rest of the week. PMac and Cliffy should be back for Tennis Masters Cup tho... hopefully.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 03:19 AM
WHAT?! No PMac & C.Dri?!?!

:( I'm crushed. I hope they are doing the weekend, or TMS Paris, or something before the Master's Cup.

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I want to know how come Yahoo has ZERO pics of Juanqui AGAIN! They did that in the previous match as well. They showed everyone (repeatedly) except him. :( I want some more pics! :p



YEAH!....WTF is up with that?????

THat's been my beef all week!! :fiery:

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 04:44 AM
WHAT?! :eek:

From http://www.kim-clijsters.com:

Latest on the Porsche:

Kim takes the money, not the Porsche!

Dad Lei said: "We have asked how things went and apparently we could choose: the car or the money. It was a 911 Boxster and it appeared that it is less worth than the prize money.
Lindsay Davenport however took the car last year, but then it was a Carrera, with a value higher than the prize money."
Dad Leo also asked the tournament organisators explicitly not to use the pic of Kim (who has a contract with Mitsubishi!) with the Porsche for publicity reasons. "We can't stop it as official photo of the tournament", he admits. "But it should only be used for that purpose then."

Vera
10-18-2002, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
great report vera. much better and more descriptive than mine. lol! :o

:D :D :D I tried. Glad you guys like it.
Who is this Arias guy? I'm sure he's been doing commentation before but I can't remember him. Well, it's pretty sure that we'll get Agassi and JC's match on tomorrow, I supposed. I don't think there'll be any change on commentator, though I would like to see PMac on again, just to see what he'll say when JC beat Agassi again. :D

Well, I think JC will do really well tomorrow. Playing Agassi will give him a lot of motivation. BTW, Agassi was asked who's in the New Balls that impressed him, he said Lopez, Hewitt and Federer. Okay, did he just trying to block his memory of being spanked by JC in RG? Poor man, still in denial. :p Let JC refresh his memory tomorrow.

Now, VAMOS JUAN CARLOS!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Go claim Agassi!

Oh, before I go, victorious smile.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Vera
BTW, Agassi was asked who's in the New Balls that impressive him, he said Lopez, Hewitt and Federer. Okay, did he just trying to block his memory of being spanked by JC in RG? Poor man, still in denial. :p Let JC refresh his memory tomorrow.

Agassi is such a prick :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure it's because he was taught a thing or two about the clay by Ferrero! ;)

Thanks for the picture. He's so lovely :hearts:

Leo7
10-18-2002, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Well, I think JC will do really well tomorrow. Playing Agassi will give him a lot of motivation. BTW, Agassi was asked who's in the New Balls that impressed him, he said Lopez, Hewitt and Federer. Okay, did he just trying to block his memory of being spanked by JC in RG? Poor man, still in denial. :p Let JC refresh his memory tomorrow.

how can he forget? oh well, this should give Juan Carlos even more insentive to kick some grandady ass today. :D

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Leo7
10-18-2002, 11:44 AM
Gagassi will go down! :bounce:

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 01:16 PM
oh fo shizzo Leo!! :D :bounce: :bounce:

you know what they say when you get really old....;)

besides JC's @ home....ESPania will be cheering him on...he's years younger and he leads 1-0

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 01:30 PM
Morning, everyone! :wavey:

Are we ready to cheer our boy on to victory today? :bounce::bounce: YAY!!

And Layla will be happy, Sebby won the first set against Calleri and apparently it is proceeding on serve? :) Always nice to start the day with a win.

Tis very exciting, Juan Carlos's match will be on ESPN again :D so you guys will have to tell us about it again. If he makes it to the semis and plays tomorrow, and if that's the match they show, I'll finally get to see him on TV!! For the first time since TMS Cincy :hearts:

Leo7
10-18-2002, 01:37 PM
oh but Hackie, didn't you tape his match from yesterday? if not, you should definitely set your vcr for today's quarterfinal on espn. :)

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 01:39 PM
Well, I'll do my special cheer before class, because I won't be back until the match is underway. Good luck, dahling!! :kiss: Channel that RG emotion again!!

JUAN-QUI :clap clap clap: :bounce: JUAN-QUI :clap clap clap: :bounce: JUAN-QUI :clap clap clap: :bounce:

Leo7
10-18-2002, 01:39 PM
seb is losing in the 2nd set tiebreak...

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
oh but Hackie, didn't you tape his match from yesterday? if not, you should definitely set your vcr for today's quarterfinal on espn. :)

LOL, Leo, I had it taped for me, don't worry ;) I ran down to the TV lounge yesterday to see what match they would play and the TV was gone! :eek::eek::eek:

Thank goodness I'm having this stuff taped!

Leo7
10-18-2002, 01:42 PM
yes, thank goodness. ;)

Seb won 6-3, 7-6(4)! :bounce: this is a good omen for today. Juanqui must win now. :)

okay, i have to go. class. i'll be back to cheer on Ferrero! :bounce:

Layla
10-18-2002, 01:57 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

I'm a bit late today. :o But came back just in time to see my darling Sebastien win! :D That just makes me so happy. That's a good sign for him as this hasn't been an exactly stellar year.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Thank you so much for your in-depth reports Leo and Vera! :) I haven't had a chance to read them yet as I just got here but I'm looking forward to it.

I just want to tell you how angry I am at the **** DSF channel. :mad: I knew they wouldn't be true to their promise. Of the 1-hour show, they showed 45 minutes of Agassi's match. :rolleyes: And only the last point of Juanqui's. :( I'm telling you they're ignoring him on purpose. :fiery: I bet the one time they won't show Agassi's match this week will be tomorrow. :p Argh, that's so frustrating.

I must admit that I'm not a huge fan of Lopez. I don't like the way he swings his raquet. I also felt that Agassi wasn't exactly playing his best tennis yesterday. ;) Let's hope he will still be a little rusty today. :)

VAMOS JUANQUI!!! :bounce:

Layla
10-18-2002, 04:04 PM
OMG guys! This is it!!! The match has started. :bounce:

VAMOS JUANQUI!!!!

Hehe, he got an early break to lead 1-0 in the first set. :D

Wonderful beginning.

Layla
10-18-2002, 04:11 PM
Pfffffft, he lead 40-0 and proceeded to lose that game. :eek: :(

1-1

Layla
10-18-2002, 04:28 PM
It's now 2-2 after two very long games. :)

Come on darling, go for it! :)

Layla
10-18-2002, 04:38 PM
Juanqui got broken. :(

Agassi leads 4-2.

Time for some cheering. ;)

http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pcheerleader.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pcheerleader.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pcheerleader.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pcheerleader.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pcheerleader.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/kao/pcheerleader.gif

Layla
10-18-2002, 04:49 PM
Juanqui lost the first set 6-3. :sad:

I think it's time for you guys to come back and turn this around again. ;)

VAMOS JUAN CARLOS!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Just do what you did yesterday. :)

Layla
10-18-2002, 04:59 PM
Juanqui got broken again. :sad: This isn't going well at all.

Agassi leads 2-1 in the second set.

Chloe le Bopper
10-18-2002, 05:01 PM
He's down a break, right?

pfft @ Mr Clean

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:03 PM
Will some magic help? I'm desperate here. http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/nichtani_1/magic.gif

JUANQUI! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/clapclap.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/clapclap.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/clapclap.gif JUANQUI! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/clapclap.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/clapclap.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/clapclap.gif

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:04 PM
Oh hi Becca! :wavey:

At least someone is here. Can you turn this around? ;)

Chloe le Bopper
10-18-2002, 05:04 PM
Layla - I think that Mr Clean might have poisoned Juan Carlos' food :(

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:05 PM
I'm here!

He can't lose, he just can't!! :(

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:06 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:06 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Double break down! :sad: :sad: :sad: This isn't happening, this isn't happening. :eek:

Chloe le Bopper
10-18-2002, 05:06 PM
Score?

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:07 PM
TH! :wavey:

Work your magic please, and hurry up! ;)

Score is 6-3 4-1 Agassi. :(

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:08 PM
From his interview yesterday:

Q. The fact of already being qualified for Shanghai, does that make you more comfortable? Do you really come here to win Madrid?

ANDRE AGASSI: I come here to win Madrid. For me, if I'm 2 in the world or 5 in the world, No. 8, No. 9, it doesn't matter. I need to either finish No. 1 or come here to win tournaments. That's my challenge, is to beat everybody I play.

You can't let the prick win!! :fiery:

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:09 PM
I tried to send my magic earlier to him, but now I'm too upset. NONONONONONONONONO this cannot be happening!!!

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:13 PM
5-2 Agassi to serve for the match! :sad::sad:

Right now my magic consists of watching the scoreboard and begging to please let him win this game, this set. (He did win that game, by the way.) I don't want to watch this match if he loses! No even to see what happened, why he's come completely unglued.

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:14 PM
Fight, fight, fight! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Chloe le Bopper
10-18-2002, 05:15 PM
I got my freind to tape this too :sigh:

In truth I thought Agassi was going to win :o But I thought it might be three sets.

Meh.

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:16 PM
Btw, Kimmy just lost. :sad:

Lindsay won 6-3 7-6! I'll be happy about Lindsay later, right now I'm just too distraught that my two faves are losing. :sad: :sad: :sad:

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:16 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:17 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! He lost!

Andre won 6-3 6-2! :sad: :sad: :sad:

What an embarrasing score-line. :( And here I thought I wouldn't be able to see the end of the match. :rolleyes:

Well, I gotta go now. I'll take my anger out on the stepper. ;)

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:18 PM
I can't cry too much, I've got to go to a class in half an hour :( Oh, no no no no no :sad::sad::sad:

Why do they all lose on the same day?!

RogiFan
10-18-2002, 05:18 PM
:o :eek: :confused: :mad:

Juanqui! What happened???!!! You let AA humiliate you en casa!! This is TERRIBLE!! I don't know if it's worth watching on TV today...

AA can't be in the final of another TMS!!! [if he wins, he'll make history once again... YUK!]

OK, Grosgros, just beat him!!!!

No good results today so far... it's up to Rogi now.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:19 PM
Bye, Layla :wavey: At least you can get your anger out in a healthy way . . . I guess I'm just going to simmer . . . and destroy this tape. :fiery: Because you know they are never going to let him live this down.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:21 PM
Grosjean better kick Agassi's ass. This is not fair.

No way am I ever going to watch this match. My need to know what happened is not greater than my need to protect Juan Carlos from the sneers of the commentators.

ESPN, PLEASE SHOW NOVAK-SRICHAPHAN!!!! Lost cause, I know, but I might as well try :(:sad:

Layla
10-18-2002, 05:30 PM
Please permit me to exclaim... FUCKIN' AGASSI!!! :fiery:

I can't stand to see him in another final either. But I really, really hope Sebastien can destroy him again tomorrow (he's done it before ;) ).

ALLEZ SEB!!! I'm counting on you!

Good luck to Fabrice and Roger! :)

I'm really going now. :wavey:

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 05:39 PM
Layla, those are my thoughts exactly. That would be a total nightmare :mad: Especially here, because he'd be forever fucking lauded. And he'd never go away :mad::mad:

I hope Hewitt gets his act together and starts playing again, because NO WAY do I want to see the prick end the year at #1 :fiery::fiery::fiery:

Vera
10-18-2002, 06:55 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
What can I say except that I'm heartbroken! Poor Juanqui.

I watched it til 3-2. Well, he wasn't playing all that bad at that point. Of course, I can't bear to watch anymore though, knowing that it's all going down hill afterward. I think the key is that 2nd game when he carelessly gave the game away with UEs and DF. And his serve, 1st serve is so off, I think 2 service games, he only have 1/3 good first serve. When he got a first serve in, he's in control and most of the time, ended the point with a clean winner. But his second serve almost put him into trouble immediately, putting him on defense right after he served it and Baldy was able to make him run around endlessly until he made a UE. :sad: :sad: :sad:

Now my hope is on Seb. Pls go spank Baldy bad tomorrow to avenge for my lost today.

I hate Baldy, I think I prefer to see Juanqui lost to a nobody like you know who, than to Baldy. Baldy should retire asap for the sake of men tennis. Can you image what will happen if he overtakes Hewitt to be #1 in the world, at 32? That will open the can of worms called what have the New Balls done lately? Let's bash men tennis and the New Balls all over again. :rolleyes:

*sigh*. Someone help me to get out of this blue, pls!:sad:

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 07:14 PM
aaaawwwh....i was feeling soo good during the 1st game of the match then...it just went down....JC played very poorly today...very low percentage of 1st serves....he shudda went to the net more....he didn't take the ball early....i'm very dissappointed :sad:


damnit....oh well...

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 07:17 PM
i hate agassi...never liked the guy... :mad:

he frickn w/d from Toronto this summer...he was fined :p

btw...those stupid ESPN commentators deserve a big slap or two upside their heads :mad:




....Allez Grosjean !!!!!!!!!!!!
:bounce:

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 07:27 PM
Federer / Grosjean for the finals!!! :)

Vera
10-18-2002, 07:31 PM
Seems like you were able to watch the whole match, jcsting. So he was bad, eh. 5 games that I watched and the agonizing pain mounting in the chest just gotten unbearable... I think his priority now is to beef up his second serve and makes more consistent of his first. I hope he get another chance in the near future to spank Baldy and take his revenge. Well, he humiliated Baldy in French, he should remember that he can do it again.

A very sad day indeed as Rogi also lost. The mere possibility of an Agassi Novak final is making me sick. Which is worse, Agassi winning Madrid and makes fucking history, or Novak getting 100 points and past Juanqui on his way to Shanghai, both thoughts make me want to vomit:eek:

I'm all for a French final. So there was a Spanish final in Paris, let's have a French final in Madrid. Allez Seb and Fabrice. :bounce:

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 07:38 PM
oh man Rogi lost??!!!! NNNNNNNOoooooooooooooooooh.....

you said it vera......very sad day.....thank god lindsay is keeping me alive by beating kim to finally get closer to her 1st singles title of the year....

ok....now i'm all for GROSJEAN to win the title!

Baldy has a losing streak to him....:D

John.Charles
10-18-2002, 07:41 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool:

something to cheer up Juanki
and everyone else on this board...:)


c'mon people dance w/ me ;)


aserejŤ ja de jŤ de jebe tu de jebere seibiunouva,
majavi an de bugui an de buididipi,
aserejŤ ja de jŤ de jebe tu de jebere seibiunouva,
majavi an de bugui an de buididipi

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 08:23 PM
Santoro defeated Rogi, so he's my last hope for this tournament. I think he can get past Novak and I would hope he could wipe the floor with Agassi (that is if Sebby doesn't take care of it first ;))

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 08:25 PM
Hmm . . . :(

Head to head: Fabrice Santoro vs Jiri Novak

1999: Stuttgart Outdoor--Clay (1R): Novak 7-6, 6-1
1999: US Open--Outdoor Hard (3R): Novak 6-1, 6-0, 5-1 ret.
2002: Dubai--Outdoor Hard (SF): Santoro 5-7, 6-3, 7-6

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 08:29 PM
Better :)

Head to Head: Sebastien Grosjean vs Andre Agassi

1998: US Open--Outdoor Hard (1R): Agassi 6-4, 6-1, 6-4
2001: Roland Garros--Clay (QF): Grosjean 1-6, 6-1, 6-1, 6-3 (best instance of Agassi self destructing in recent years :D)
2001: Tennis Masters Cup--Indoor Hard (RR) Grosjean 6-3, 6-4

Layla
10-18-2002, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Layla

Good luck to Fabrice and Roger! :)


Oooops, I forgot they were playing against each other. :o

WOOOHOOOOOOOO FOR FABRICE!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I knew he would do it, I even predicted him in the game. :) I apologize to all Rogi fans here :( but this just makes today a little more bearable.

I agree that the Novak - Agassi final would be a total nightmare, but I have a feeling this is a French tournament. ;) The Muskateers seem to rule in Madrid. :) Two of them in the semis. :eek:

I will be exstatic if Seb and Fab were to meet in the final. :D Even more so because that would mean that Sebastien had his way with Agassi again, which I'm hoping and dreaming he will do. :p

ALLEZ SEBASTIEN AND FABRICE!!!

Bye the way, I'm back as you see and the exercise did help to alleviate my sadness a bit. But I'm spent. My mom and I were stupid enough to miss the fact that our steppers were higher than normal (there are two levels, the higher one is way advanced) :eek: After 20 minutes I was panting like crazy and I had no idea why. I though I was just out of shape. How silly of me lol. :o After we changed it back to normal, it was so much easier it was almost funny. Boy, am I gonna feel my legs tomorrow. ;)

Layla
10-18-2002, 08:45 PM
I wouldn't worry about Fabrice's head-to-heads TH. ;) The first two matches took places years ago and this year he did win. Apparently he's playing really well in this tournament. I mean they way he served a bagel and a breadstick to David! :eek: And he took out an in-form Federer. I'm sure he can take care of Novak too. :)

On a more somber note, did you guys see the homepage of the Madrid TMS? :eek: I almost choked when I saw that huge title. I'm not gonna repeat it here, it's too painful and embarassing. But Juanqui and everyone else should never forget that he overpowered Agassi in RG and made him incredibly irritable and frustrated. :)

I'm liking Agassi less and less and I too found myself dreaming of his retirement. You're right, Vera. Can you imagine all the articles written about the old guns and the new balls? My worst nightmare. :mad: As if the US final wasn't enough for one year. :rolleyes:

Lee
10-18-2002, 08:50 PM
I watched ESPN and poor JC :sad: :sad: was just outplayed by AA. With the way AA is playing, I cannot think of anyone remaining can stop him. Anyway, I do feel like to add my little cheering to Seb:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

RogiFan
10-18-2002, 08:53 PM
:fiery: Layla, TH, Vera, jcsting:

My sentiments exactly!!!!! AA/Baldy/Machine-guyondrugs/A-hole, etc. cannot get to the finals!!!

A very dark day indeed when Juanqui and Rogi go down... but esp. Juanqui.

In case you missed it the 1st time, here's a gem (to help you vent your frustrations):

;) [note the apt title]

July 6, 2001 ESPN

The Ugly American
by Curry Kirkpatrick

LONDON -- Agassi-Hole?

Well, yeah, it was Shine Dome himself who waddled smack into another one. Or was it a ditch, a pit, a funk, a choke? Call it what you will. America's Favorite Sincerity Boy turned another winning position in a Grand Slam into a rather nasty scam, and not even the leader of the free world could save him this time. Or ex-leader.

Andredians, not to be confused with Androids although their haircuts are usually similar, will recall how their near-balding beloved, in the French Open quarterfinals, was on the brink of blowing out Sebastien Grosjean when William Jefferson Clinton stole the spotlight and cameo-ed just in time to watch Agassi fade out -- losing three sets in approximately 33 seconds. "I never saw him," said an obviously enraged Agassi.

On Friday in the men's semifinals at Wimbledon there was both a Kennedy and a Jackson in the royal box -- whom Andre undoubtedly also did not see -- but they were neither royals nor dead presidents.

It was Agassi, in fact, who turned up dead -- a 2-6, 6-3, 3-6, 6-2, 8-6 loser to Pat Rafter (the popular king of Queensland, whom Agassi was playing for the third year in a row at this stage of the Championships) in a match of splendor and struggle that was, as usual, besmirched by the defeated Las Vegan who is as sore and poor a loser as ... whom? Tyson? Nixon? The Mets? Benjamin Bratt?


Reporter: People raved about the level of tennis when you played Patrick here last year. What did you think about it today?

Agassi: I thought it sucked.

That's specifically because the Australian Open champion had the Australian beaten oh, maybe five or six or lebenty-leben times before blowing his cool, his top and then the whole kit and kaboodle. "Not too many matches that you play, something like that happens, it turns around for you," said Rafter.

It turned around once when Agassi was in control, up two sets to one and on serve in the fourth. But when Rafter's sliced crosscourt backhand was called good -- replays showed it was the correct call -- it was the second point in a row Agassi felt he'd been gypped out of. So Double A protested and then was broken for 4-2. At the next changeover he came railing at the chair umpire. "Bull---- call, bull--- call," he said. "You've got plenty of [lines] people. Get rid of him [the offending linesman]. Get another one. They're all over the place. You want me to find one for you?"

Naturally, the ump didn't. And so, serving in the next game, naturally, Agassi tank-blasted a serve so hard (122 mph, probably his fastest of the contest) and off-target, it touched down on the baseline (!) before careening into the backstop, forcing the same linesman to quickly get out of the way. Agassi saluted him by holding up his next service ball.

Reporter: Did that ball just get away from you? or were you aiming at somebody?

Agassi: Yeah, I was trying to hit the line, and it just got a little bit away from me.

Yeah, and Barbra Streisand wants another chance.

It was hardly stunning that when Pinocchio arrived at the fifth set -- precisely where Agassi lost to Rafter last July here -- he wasn't exactly in a joyful frame of mind. All the same, Agassi grasped firm control of the match again by breaking Rafter in the first game, holding and swiftly moving to 15-40 on his opponent's serve in the third game. "If I lost that game, the match was over, simple as that," said the Aussie.

But Agassi had a sitter forehand pass that Rafter guessed right on and immediately volleyed a winner. Agassi had three more break points for 3-0 and lost them. He had another point for 4-1, a double break lead again, and lost it. The thing is, he wasn't gagging. The thing is, the other guy -- one of the toughest competitors as well as nicest human beings in sport, despite that awful decision to get his wondrous flowing locks hacked into a George Michael sponge-cut that reveals a birthmark white-hair spot -- just kept digging and hustling and charging and putting Agassi under severe pressure that the American could not possibly withstand.

Still, Agassi served for the match at 5-4 and was two points from victory. But again, the resilient Rafter repelled him, whirling an approach to the baseline chalk and then volleying crosscourt to once again break serve and deadlock an encounter that would finish one minute shy of three hours. At 6-all and now ascendant in most of the long rallies, Rafter reached 40-0, but a stream of Agassi returns brought him still another break point. But the 29-year-old Aussie -- who has a chronic sore shoulder and has said he may retire at the end of the year -- did not want this to be his final match at The Big W.

He courageously drop-volleyed to save.

Having spinached his huge chances for the last hour, Agassi did it again. So, naturally, he loudly swore at somebody. Whoever it was -- Rafter, himself, the linesman, the inventor of Rogaine, surely not his current alleged squeeze, Steffi Graf -- a lineswoman named Wendy Smith heard him, marched herself to the chair and reported the oath to the umpire who gave Andre a "code violation for obscenity."

Rafter promptly held for 7-6 and just as promptly benefited from three Agassi backhand errors for 0-40, triple match point. He won the match on the third one. Obviously upset as he stalked to the net to shake hands, Agassi this time rifled a ball all the way to the opposite backstop which coincidentally came close to searing Ms. Smith's alert ears. Moreover, it was also obvious Agassi was not humming the old Beach Boys' lyric: "Wennn-dy, Wendy Left Me Alone."

"Listen, I'm sure [Andre] was very upset. He had his chances," said Rafter, letting the loser off the hook. "I thought it was a little bit unfair of that lady to report him. I guess she took the rules a little bit seriously ... I think [she] really got to him in the end ... He pretty well snapped ... He was a bit hacked off."

Reporter: Did you feel it was a little unfair?

Agassi: Yeah, big time. Big time. I blame her husband for that.

Reporter: Did you aim at her at the end with the ball?

Agassi: No, no. I meant to hit that in the net.

Yeah, and Brooke Shields can act her way out of a paper bag.

Of course, Agassi would be fined $2,000 for the "audible obscenity" -- but Wimbledon referee Alan Mills claimed he wasn't concerned about Ms. Smith. "He didn't hit her," Mills said. "She was athletic."

A while later, continuing to regenerate himself back into his younger days when he was a tacky imitation of tennis' rude punk twins -- a kind of Jimmy-John McEnConnors -- Agassi embarrassed himself some more. "It wasn't like I was losing my mind out there," he told the BBC. "[The lineswoman] to go running up there ... It was classless."

Classless? This, from a guy who has made a career out of being not just AA -- but AI? Abhorrent and Insulting? In 1996, Agassi's sewer mouth should have gotten him kicked out of the Olympics in Atlanta -- which he ended up winning. In '96 he was thrown out of the tournament in Indianapolis for profane language and in '99 he got the boot from the tournament in San Jose for the same thing.

Classless?

The real problem is that for all of Agassi's seven Grand Slams -- at 31, he's one of only five men to win all four majors -- the occasional talent and the occasional charm, the guy is constantly worming up the works with another inglorious trash show.

An interested spectator at Wimbledon on Friday -- not non-Presidents Kennedy and Jackson -- once made a movie which defined behavior humorously close to this. His name is Jack Nicholson. The movie is One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

Vera
10-18-2002, 08:57 PM
Hi Layla:wavey:

Good for you to execise. I skip my swimming this morning to watch the match.:(

I saw that headline. I just want to tell them to SHUT THE FUCK UP! :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: No respect for Juanqui, so typical of ATP.

I think Seb can do it. He won that indoor in Paris and was in the final in last year's TMC, this is definitely a surface Seb likes. If Seb wins this one, it will be a sweet ending afterall. And that can help lifting some pressure of him having to defend in Paris to maintain his ranking in ESR.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Layla
On a more somber note, did you guys see the homepage of the Madrid TMS? :eek: I almost choked when I saw that huge title. I'm not gonna repeat it here, it's too painful and embarassing. But Juanqui and everyone else should never forget that he overpowered Agassi in RG and made him incredibly irritable and frustrated. :)

LOL, the front of my TMS Madrid homepage is that they are still playing live on court :confused:

I'm not worried about Santoro's head to heads. If he gets to the final he has an excellent chance. On the other hand, as if a Novak-Agassi final wasn't bad enough, Agassi rules Novak! :rolleyes::sad: So go Frenchies.

Vera
10-18-2002, 09:04 PM
:D :D :D Oh, thank you, RogiFan. This article lightened up my day. I remembered both these matches. My 2 fave, Seb and Pat giving Baldy a spanking lesson. Ya, Baldy choked too, even if he looks so non-human. Made me laughed whenever I saw him getting jumpy on court and making his little-step walks like a Penguin...:D :D :D Well, Penguin is indeed a lot more lovely, he just looked plain stupid.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by RogiFan
In case you missed it the 1st time, here's a gem (to help you vent your frustrations):

;) [note the apt title]

July 6, 2001 ESPN

The Ugly American
by Curry Kirkpatrick



LOL, how did I miss this?! Thanks for the refresher, RF! ;)

Agassi is SUCH a prick. :fiery::fiery: And I finally saw the headline and could only :rolleyes: at it. I expected much worse considering he's the darling of the tournament.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 09:19 PM
Well, we shouldn't let our anger take us over. So, think pleasant thoughts, everyone. Puppies, kittens, rainbows . . . Help me out, here!

Vera
10-18-2002, 09:24 PM
Pleasant thoughts..............

Seb winning Madrid, JC winning TMC in Shanghai, Russia winning DC......

...........Me, winning the lotto:D :D :D

These aren't thoughts, more like pleasant dreams.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 09:30 PM
Micha in Cincinnati ;)

LOL, dreams are welcome, too :) I share at least two of them--I'd kill to see Russia win the Davis Cup this year. I really hope they do well. And of course the best possible outcome to the year is that Juanqui goes on a tear and wins the Masters Cup and becomes the best player in the world.

RogiFan
10-18-2002, 09:38 PM
:)

Seeing Juanqui play in TO, meeting Rogi in TO...

Pat winning Wimby, Alex winning RG, Rogi winning Wimby...

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 09:40 PM
Juan Carlos winning Roland Garros :hearts: I can't wait!!

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 09:41 PM
Oh, and:

Jarkko winning TMS Canada ;)

Vera
10-18-2002, 09:43 PM
Oh, I guess my biggest tennis dream is to have a TMS in my city, which I know will never happen so I'll forever be envious of you Toronto ppl. Or some tennis tourney in the big Northwest! Bill Gate should do sth, maybe buy a tourney to set it in Redmond. :D

Vera
10-18-2002, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Oh, and:

Jarkko winning TMS Canada ;)

hehehe, you mean in real?

Just joking. I'm sure he will have his chance. Like I said, he looks brilliant in the first set against Lleyton. So with more experience, I'm sure he'll get a lot more consistent.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Vera
hehehe, you mean in real?

Just joking. I'm sure he will have his chance. Like I said, he looks brilliant in the first set against Lleyton. So with more experience, I'm sure he'll get a lot more consistent.

Of course I mean in real life :) He has really grown a lot as a player, just in the past year. He's reached two finals this year, and I think he has a great chance at Stockholm next week :) Hitman said he played some brilliant points against Juan Carlos this week, so I hope he can translate that to next week!

Layla
10-18-2002, 10:00 PM
Sorry guys, I had to work so I couldn't join in the conversation. And I should go right back to it, because tomorrow I have to go to this family gathering. :rolleyes: It's somebody's 70th birthday. Which also means I won't be here for the semis. :( Or for women's semis either. I'm still hoping I get to see Lindsay's match against Juju tomorrow.

Ooooops, I suppose those are not pleasant thoughts. :o

I'll pick Juanqui winning Roland Garros next year. ;) :D Seb humiliating Agassi tomorrow would also be nice.

Speaking of Agassi, thanks for the article RogiFan! LMAO! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/rotfl.gif

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 10:03 PM
Aww, we'll miss you, Layla :( But you'll get through it ;)

If it makes you feel any better, I won't be around much either because of work :rolleyes: More than last weekend, but probably not by much.

How did Dani do? (back to the unpleasant thoughts)

Layla
10-18-2002, 10:04 PM
lol Agassi thinks the passionate Spanish crowd will be on his side tomorrow. I so hope he'll be disappointed. Come on Spaniards, support your fellow European who will avenge the defeat of the last Spanish player. ;)

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 10:05 PM
NO WAY! will the crowd support him tomorrow! I'd have to think they'd hold a grudge :D

Layla
10-18-2002, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Aww, we'll miss you, Layla :( But you'll get through it ;)

If it makes you feel any better, I won't be around much either because of work :rolleyes: More than last weekend, but probably not by much.

How did Dani do? (back to the unpleasant thoughts)

lol, looks like it's gonna be another busy weekend for the two us. :rolleyes: If everything goes right, I should be able to breathe more easily come next weekend. :) I'll look forward to that.

All I know is that Dani lost to Schnyer in 3 sets :( but her match was not on Eurosport. At least I think so. I wasn't home.

Lindsay winning this tournament is also a pleasant thought for me. :) She has a real chance now.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Layla
lol, looks like it's gonna be another busy weekend for the two us. :rolleyes: If everything goes right, I should be able to breathe more easily come next weekend. :) I'll look forward to that.

All I know is that Dani lost to Schnyer in 3 sets :( but her match was not on Eurosport. At least I think so. I wasn't home.

Lindsay winning this tournament is also a pleasant thought for me. :) She has a real chance now.


Oooooooh, does that mean you might have a sliver of time to write a new installment? Very exciting!

Not so exciting is that fact that, indeed, ALL of my players lost today. :( That sucks. I hope Lindsay takes it all.

If Dani and Kim lost in doubs I'm going to cry. They are playing the qualifying team this round.

Layla
10-18-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack



Oooooooh, does that mean you might have a sliver of time to write a new installment? Very exciting!

Not so exciting is that fact that, indeed, ALL of my players lost today. :( That sucks. I hope Lindsay takes it all.

If Dani and Kim lost in doubs I'm going to cry. They are playing the qualifying team this round.

I'll be happy if I get a day off. Like I said, I don't intend to accept any more work. I'll see what I can do about the story. I do miss the days when we were able to write it almost every day. :eek: It seems like aeons ago.

Dani and Kim are playing so late! :eek: They're level at 3-3 at the moment and it's 11:30 pm local time.

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 10:30 PM
:eek: They are just now starting to play?! :eek: Maybe they'll take some revenge for their losses today.

Scores:

L. Davenport d. K. Clijsters 6-3, 7-6
P. Schnyder d. D. Hantuchova 6-7, 6-3, 7-6

I miss those days, too, but they are not to have back, I guess :( I hope you get your much-needed vacation. A day to do nothing is soooo luxurious :sigh:

TennisHack
10-18-2002, 10:37 PM
Okay, I couldn't let this one go:

Agassi, Grosjean advance to semifinals at TMS Madrid
October 18, 2002

MADRID (Ticker) - It was one of those perfect days for Andre Agassi as the second-seeded American dispatched No. 5 Juan Carlos Ferrero, 6-3, 6-2, Friday in the quarterfinals of the $2.33 million Tennis Masters Series - Madrid.

Showing off his brilliant groundstrokes, Agassi ushered out the last remaining Spaniard in the draw in 1 hour, 14 minutes.

"There are days that go that well, you hit the ball and it falls into place. It has been a great day for me," Agassi said. "I felt I wasn't just playing well, but that everything was going my way. I expected it to be very hard and I have worked hard thinking about it."

The 32-year-old American lost their only previous meeting in the quarterfinals of the French Open in June. But that encounter came on clay, not an indoor hard court like the one at the Rockodromo.

"Maybe this is more my element than Ferrero's. It's a lot different on clay, but Ferrero should take the way I played today as a compliment," Agassi said. "Playing Ferrero in Paris meant I was much better prepared to play him here. Experience has taught me to use my disappointments to get better rather than to get discouraged."

Agassi, who is tied for the ATP lead in titles this year with four, will play seventh seed Sebastien Grosjean of France in the semifinals.

"(Grosjean) is a good counter-puncher with really good firepower," said the U.S. Open runner-up, who lost two of their three encounters. "He has a great game and is very fast, so I'll have to be aggressive and be in control."

Layla
10-18-2002, 10:54 PM
WTF?!? :eek: Condescending snotty bustard. :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

ILR
10-18-2002, 11:07 PM
hi all :wavey:

I couldnt get on here any earlier due to my brother.:rolleyes: I wont be on at all tomorrow,very very busy,then babysitting at night.Might stay for a while before my bedtime ;)

Vera
10-18-2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Okay, I couldn't let this one go:

"Maybe this is more my element than Ferrero's. It's a lot different on clay, but Ferrero should take the way I played today as a compliment," Agassi said. "Playing Ferrero in Paris meant I was much better prepared to play him here. Experience has taught me to use my disappointments to get better rather than to get discouraged."


Fuck this arrogant bastard:fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: He just lost that tiny little respect that I have left for him.

It just seems to me that the humiliation he got from that RG defeat is still weighing on him. So you think ppl's gonna remember him beating Juanqui in QF in Madrid, or Juanqui beating him in Roland Garros!!! Andre - Loser!

Layla
10-18-2002, 11:28 PM
Hi ILR and Vera! :wavey:

I'm just going to bed. Sad to hear that you won't be here tomorrow ILR. :(

Vera, I don't think Andre deserves our respect anyway. :rolleyes: He never did. This just confirms it. You know, I keep hearing how much he's changed and how he's the Buddha of the ATP now (or some such nonsense, I forget which). I don't think he changed at all. He's just the same old dirty wolf in brand new white-washed sheep's skin. He wraps his snide and derogatory remarks in cute and "respectful" wrappers, but he can't hide the fact that he is a **** (insert your favorite swear-word here ;) ).

On that note, I'll say good night and sleep well! :wavey:

ILR
10-18-2002, 11:33 PM
night Layla :) I would've come on sooner had I not been watching 10 things I hate about you.It reminded me that our prom is next year.I wish I had Heath Ledger to take me but unfortunately thats not to be. ;) *sigh* Well tomorrow I am up at 8am for my football match,going to see my grandad hes back at home now,going into town to buy a birthday present for my best friend then babysitting for my cousin.Its nice to know Ill be missed ;) :p

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 12:30 AM
Hi, again :wavey: Just stopped in to know if anyone knew the doubles score? I can't find it anywhere :(

I'm thinking I should post that article in the TMS Madrid forum. Ass.

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 12:33 AM
:eek: They've changed the article! :eek:

:rolleyes: Bastards.

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
I would've come on sooner had I not been watching 10 things I hate about you.

LOL, that's one of my favorite movies!

I identify with Kat waaaaaay too much :o;)

Well, I shall say my anons as well. Night, all! :wavey:

Leo7
10-19-2002, 02:38 AM
i've seen that movie also...i think...is that the one with Julia Stiles?

Vera
10-19-2002, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by Layla

Vera, I don't think Andre deserves our respect anyway. :rolleyes: He never did. This just confirms it. You know, I keep hearing how much he's changed and how he's the Buddha of the ATP now (or some such nonsense, I forget which). I don't think he changed at all. He's just the same old dirty wolf in brand new white-washed sheep's skin. He wraps his snide and derogatory remarks in cute and "respectful" wrappers, but he can't hide the fact that he is a **** (insert your favorite swear-word here ;) ).


I totally agreed. Andre the wolf:D In fact, he had never win my respect, I dislike him from the very beginning bcos of just what that ESPN articles pointed out. But then, since he became Steffi's hubby and the daddy of her lovely son, I decided to give him the benefit of a doubt. Then, no doubt now he's just a complete moron as I always suspected he is. :rolleyes:

Anyway, we should all ignore this wolfy person and not let him get us irritated. So we can all enjoy our lovely weekend:angel:

John.Charles
10-19-2002, 05:18 AM
a Dirty Old Dick..is what he is...literally!!..don't worry he'll fall very soon and will never get back up....;)

Layla
10-19-2002, 12:35 PM
Morning all! :wavey:

Just a quick word before I leave for the birthday lunch.

TH, Kimmy and Dani won yesterday. :) They defeated Bovina/Henin 5-7 6-3 6-4. They were still playing when I went to bed. :eek: Congrats!

The official webpage of the tournament has a live scoreboard, if you want to follow today's semis. http://www.swisscom-challenge.com/SCC2002/index-main-en.php3

Hey, Maja Matevzic made it to the semi-final in Bratislava (it might be her first, I'm not sure). She was down 1-6 1-5 :eek: :eek: :eek: and made a spectacular turn-around, winning 1-6 7-5 6-1. :D Congrats!

Moving on to men's semi-finals. I just have to scream at the top of my lungs

ALLEZ SEBASTIEN AND FABRICE!!!

http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif

I picked them to win in the prediction game because I couldn't stand to predict the other two. ;) Even if I end up losing all the points, I will never regret my decision. :p But hopefully that won't happen. :)

Come on Musketeers, make me happy! ;)

Ok, bye now! Have a good day everyone! :wavey:

John.Charles
10-19-2002, 03:45 PM
NOooooo........Grosjean lost....

4-6 6-3 4-6 ! :(

craptacular :mad:

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 03:57 PM
The nightmare final is looming large . . . Agassi through and Novak up a set . . .


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :( So we won't think about that. We'll think about . . . all the work we have to do :(

TH, Kimmy and Dani won yesterday. :) They defeated Bovina/Henin 5-7 6-3 6-4. They were still playing when I went to bed. :eek: Congrats!

Yay! :) At least there is still good news for the week :)

Good luck in the semis, girls! Wouldn't that be wild, winning a doubles title together after playing in a singles final the week before? :eek:

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:10 PM
Yesterday's interview. He's so cute :)

Q. What happened to you today with Agassi?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Nothing special. He played a great match. I was quite strong at the beginning. I was well-prepared, confident. I lost the second game. From there, it got complicated. I tried to play at my best level. He played very strong, without any unforced errors. The ball here flies very fast. Everything went quickly. I tried to play well, but he played better.

Q. Did you feel at a certain point you couldn't do anything?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: From the beginning, I realized that the first game I played well, and it was hard to win it. So I felt that it was going to be a very tough match, and I would have to play at the top level. The first game I played very well, but he won that game. I started to play with more errors. But he was very precise during the match, very focused. He made me run a lot. He had the advantage most of the time. I tried, but he had it clearly.

Q. Feliciano had a good serve yesterday, and that's why his match was long. Do you agree?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Yeah, I realized that I may have had to hit too many second serves. Of course, if I had served better, my first serve would have changed the outcome.

Q. Do you feel powerless?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, not powerless. I played with him in Roland Garros. I know if I play at my best level, I can win.

Q. He was saying in Roland Garros, that's your surface, and this is his surface.

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, here both of us ran a lot. Especially the second set, I ran more.

Q. What was your impression of the tournament?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Great impression. Not only from just me, but all the players. The standard of Masters Series, it's there. The crowds have been great. They've been supporting me through the hard moments. For me, it's been a super tournament.

Q. What did you lack in the match?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: Well, to return the ball one more time than my opponent. Here, all of us, we are very good, it's always very close. The Spanish participation has been good.

Q. Shanghai, do you see it close?

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: I was doing numbers right now, calculating my position (laughter). I think I have 450 points right now, and I'm waiting to see what Federer and Novak will do. But I think it actually depends on myself. It comes down to me, I think.

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:14 PM
Kim & Dani are playing Justine Henin & Elena Bovina in the semis today (another late match). Good luck, girls!! :bounce:

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:21 PM
Well, the nightmare final will take place :mad::sad:

Novak downed Santoro in straights :(:(:(

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

JUAN CARLOS FERRERO: I was doing numbers right now, calculating my position (laughter). I think I have 450 points right now, and I'm waiting to see what Federer and Novak will do. But I think it actually depends on myself. It comes down to me, I think.

lol. awww, how cute. he really wants this, and i know he's gonna get it. keep kicking ass, juanqui. ;)

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:26 PM
yipee for Jiri! i knew you had it in you! :bounce: now avenge Juanqui's loss in the finals ;)

boy, what a year this has been for Novak. just keeps getting better and better. :)

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Hey, Maja Matevzic made it to the semi-final in Bratislava (it might be her first, I'm not sure). She was down 1-6 1-5 :eek: :eek: :eek: and made a spectacular turn-around, winning 1-6 7-5 6-1. :D Congrats!

amazing comeback! :eek: :) who was she playing? i like this girl Maja, she seems like a real fighter. future top 20 player maybe? i don't know, cuz i've never seen her play. have you, Layla?

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:35 PM
The draw for Stockholm is out!! (http://www.stockholmopen.temp.pi.se/singles.htm)

Jarkko's draw looks pretty good. He could see Hewitt in the semis and there is the possibility for a rematch of last year's final against Schalken, too.

Leo, the only problem with the nightmare final is that NOVAK HAS NEVER BEATEN AGASSI. On any surface. If he manages to do it tomorrow, it wouldn't be so bad . . . but he would shoot up the race and could possibly knock Juanqui out of 4th place. That would also not be so good :mad:

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:39 PM
Okay, I take that back. Jiri is going to knock Juan Carlos out of 4th place. He's only 5 points behind him right now :rolleyes:

What a nightmare week this has been! :mad::fiery::mad:

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:40 PM
this tournament could be exactly what Lleyton needs. a real chance next week to solidify his #1 spot. but of course i'll be cheering for Sjeng, who has been playing tremendous tennis as of late. he has a decent draw.

GO SCHALKEN! :bounce:

and Michel too ;)

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:41 PM
oh crap! Juanqui! :fiery:

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:44 PM
Lindsay won! Lindsay won! Lindsay won! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

she disposed of Justine Henin in 2 tiebreaks earlier today and is now in the finals of Zurich for a 2nd straight year! she'll play clay-court specialist Patty Schnyder who today routed Conchita Martinez 6-3, 6-0 (similar score to the thrashing Martinez gave Capriati earlier this week :rolleyes: ).

GO LINDSAY! you've beaten the main challenge (kimmy and juju), now collect your prize. win the trophy! your first singles title of 2002! :)

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
this tournament could be exactly what Lleyton needs. a real chance next week to solidify his #1 spot. but of course i'll be cheering for Sjeng, who has been playing tremendous tennis as of late. he has a decent draw.

GO SCHALKEN! :bounce:

and Michel too ;)

LOL, you mean Jarkko? ;) Micha is playing in Basel this week.

James, Michel, & Juan Carlos are playing in Basel next week. And Mario Ancic and Richard Gasquet are going to qualify!! Well, I only see Gasquet in the qualifying draw (http://www.davidoffswissindoors.ch/out02/teq02.htm) :( Hmmm . . . .

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:45 PM
whoohooo! :bounce: today is a fabulous day (with the exception of Seb's loss) :)

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:48 PM
oh sorry, i always get mixed up with names. but i do wish Michel the best of luck. maybe we'll get to see him play Juanqui this week like he should have in Vienna?! :)

richard will qualify.

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:56 PM
pics of Lindsay from Zurich (looking fabulous)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021016/capt.1034802280.swisscom_challenge_klo153.jpg

http://www.sanexwta.com/assets/story_image/DavenportSigns101702.jpg

http://www.sanexwta.com/assets/story_image/DavenportWeb101702.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021018/capt.1034962927swisscom_challenge_klo113.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20021018/capt.1034962932swisscom_challenge_klo114.jpg

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/reuters_ids/20021018/i/2768870373.jpg

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
oh sorry, i always get mixed up with names. but i do wish Michel the best of luck. maybe we'll get to see him play Juanqui this week like he should have in Vienna?! :)

richard will qualify.

Richard has been kicking ass in the qualifying rounds :D

And it all depends on where the boys are in the draw as to whether or not they'll play each other. I hope the home crowd is inspiration for Michel, I want him to turn this slump around. You can do it, dahling! ;)

Nice pics, Leo. It'll be great to see Lindsay defend her title. But I'm gunning for Kim & Daniela in doubles! :o

Leo7
10-19-2002, 04:59 PM
http://www.sanexwta.com/assets/story_image/DavHitBalls101802.jpg
(Swisscom Challenge - Zurich, SUI)
Lindsay Davenport hits signed tennis balls into the packed stadium court after winning her quarterfinal match Friday

http://www.sanexwta.com/assets/story_image/DavenportTVct101802.jpg
(Swisscom Challenge - Zurich, SUI)
Lindsay is interviewed live on Swiss TV after her quarterfinal match Friday

Leo7
10-19-2002, 05:01 PM
she's got the best smile in tennis :)

Leo7
10-19-2002, 05:03 PM
supposedly Lindsay has an injured foot today and was barely able to complete her match. but she still fought on, coming back from two breaks down in the 2nd set to win it in the tiebreak. :) but i hope she can recover from this injury. i'm worried now. :(

Leo7
10-19-2002, 06:45 PM
hey layla! your girl Maja won her semifinal today 0-6, 6-2, 6-0 (crazy score)! :)

good luck in the finals! :bounce:

Leo7
10-19-2002, 07:07 PM
btw, she beat Grande today in the semis, and tomorrow will take on Benesova (who upset Dechy) for the title. good luck, Maja. win it for Layla. ;) :kiss:

Leo7
10-19-2002, 08:57 PM
where is everybody today? :confused:

anyway, i just wanted to say that i won't be around for a while cuz i'm leaving for school soon to check out all the Homecoming festivites. the football game should start soon as long as the rain holds off. i know you guys will cheer on Lindsay tomorrow for me. ;)

sorry to say, Hackie, that Kim/Dani lost today in doubles to Bovina/Henin. Bovina/Henin will play tomorrow in the finals against Dokic/Petrova. :(

GO LINDS! :bounce:

talk to you guys tomorrow.

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 09:10 PM
Argh :( Poor Kim & Dani. But it *is* a semifinal appearance, not half bad for their first partnering.

Have fun, Leo! I'm supposed to be working but can't quite bring myself to it yet.

Mrs. B
10-19-2002, 09:24 PM
Hi, Leo! Hi, Hackie!


Yeah, i saw that match of Lindsay today and she was struggling there in the second set, she really looked like she was in great pain, she kept rubbing something to her right shin during changeover. Luckily she pulled through, served well, and her baseline shots fh & bh were vintage Lindsay. I saw her play in ZH 2 years ago, she always seem to play well here. Her fiance was there, sitting very quitely...he's a cutie! Well, good luck to her tomorrow, playing Patty on home soil would be a challenge...

TennisHack
10-19-2002, 09:58 PM
Hmm, controversy on the ladies tour . . .

Henin accuses Davenport of faking injury
Defending champion Lindsay Davenport was accused of feigning injury to gain an advantage as she battled to a tight win over Belgium's Justine Henin and claimed a place in the final of the Swisscom Challenge in Zurich on Saturday.

Davenport now meets local favourite Patty Schnyder, who beat Spain's Conchita Martinez 6-0 6-3, in Sunday's final.

But the American, who is bidding to win her first tournament since undergoing knee surgery in January, should not have made the final according to Henin.

"She was in such a state, she was crying and limping and looked as if she could not go on," said the 20-year-old Henin. "I was sure she would retire, but she didn't. And it was very difficult to play against her like that."

Henin said that from 4-1 up in the second set, when she looked certain to press home her advantage against an injured opponent, she lost her concentration because of Davenport's antics.

"It is very hard to play against players who do all the things that she did today," she added. "For me, it was tough. Somehow, she played and she carried on. I didn't know what to expect in that part of the second set. It was not easy."

Henin made particular reference to the way in which the three-times Grand Slam winner hopped around and sought treatment during the latter stages of the second set.

With Davenport struggling with the ankle injury, Henin raced to a 4-1 lead in the second set, only for Davenport to reel of the next three games to level the scores.

Later, with Henin leading 6-5 after grabbing another service break in the 11th game, the American limped dramatically before making another near-miraculous recovery when she ran out to a 40-0 lead that included one running cross-court forehand pass that left the Belgian watching.

"I don't want to say anything that I will really regret about this," said Henin. "But if you are limping one minute, you don't usually play the next game the way she did.

"It was a very difficult experience and difficult for my concentration. I didn't know if she could play from what I saw at the other end of the court.

"But she won 7-6 7-6. That's tennis isn't it? I have to be positive. It was my first time here and there is another tournament ahead."

Mrs. B
10-19-2002, 10:07 PM
She did hop around the court there, but knowing Lindsay i could not imagine her to be faking an injury or anything like that to try to win a match.

Vera
10-19-2002, 11:08 PM
Just trying to kill some time, I aimlessly surf the net and found this. OMG, no wonder Ferrero's so not popular in the States. ABC sports has a completely different idea of what Juan Carlos looks like:eek:

http://abc.net.au/tennis/frenchopen2002/features/mens_semi.htm

Layla
10-19-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
whoohooo! :bounce: today is a fabulous day (with the exception of Seb's loss) :)

Hi everyone! :wavey:

A fabulous day? Not even the least. It's another nightmare day. :mad: The dreaded final will take place (this reminds me so much of the USO :rolleyes: ) I have decided to pretend Agassi doesn't exist. ;) Who won Madrid TMS 2002. Nobody, they had to cancel the final due to unforseen circumstances. Apparently, one of the finalists suddenly and inexplicably ceased to exist. :p It was on the front page of every magazine lol. :D

If you mean it was a fabulous day because Lindsay won, think again. :( It was so painful and agonizing to watch that match. Of course I'm elated that she won :) and has a chance of winning the first title of the year, but it killed me to see her in so much pain. It's such a shame too. She was playing so well in the first set. Well they both were, but Lindsay was particularly impressive. She was serving extremely well, which is one factor that saved her in the end. And Juju's serve was really unreliable.

Lindsay called for a trainer at the beginning of the second set and she was in real trouble out there. Henin managed to take a 4-1 (double-break) lead when Lindsay called the trainer again. From then on she really focused. She was brilliant really. She made sure she didn't have to move very much at all and her power shots was working miracles. Admittedly, Henin did let her back into the match. She completely lost her concentration. Lindsay won 4 successive games to take a 5-4 lead. Henin held to make it 5-5, but then Lindsay got broken again and my heart sank. Not Lindsay's though. She broke right back and ran to a 6-2 lead in the tie-break. The first point of the tie-break (Lindsay's serve) Lindsay hit a horrible smash into the net, but she didn't let that bring her down and she won the next 6 points. Henin saved 3 matchpoints (2 were on her serve) but Linday won the match with a service winner. :D

Ok, I'll bounce now. Woooohooo Lindsay!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Then Juju made me really angry. :mad: The way she accused Lindsay of faking the injury was in such bad taste. Just because she couldn't handle her opponent's injury doesn't mean she can turn around and accuse her of bad sportsmanship. Shame on you Juju. Lindsay really didn't deserve to hear your comments after all she's been through. In an interview Juju claimed that she could not possibly play that game at 5-6 down as brilliantly as she did had she really been injured. That is such bull and so misleading. Hello, we saw the match Justine! Lindsay ran to a 40-0 lead because she smacked brilliant return winners and didn't even HAVE to move.

Like Mrs. B said, Lindsay isn't exactly the person you would accuse of faking an injury. Like Lindsay said in an interview, there were so many things Henin could to her that she just didn't, like drop shots, running her from side to side, balls out wide. Instead, she put everything down the middle for her and made it so much easier for her. For her to be dissing Lindsay like that, I'm speechless... :eek:

I really hope Lindsay will be ok tomorrow. I think she was relieved after the second medical time-out when the trainer said she didn't think it was the bone, as that was Lindsay's main concern and that's why she played better. :)

There's an audio interview on the official site. http://www.swisscom-challenge.com/SCC2002/index-en.php3?page=news/spielplan.php?lang=e&leftsect=playplan&

GO LINDSAY!!! Win your first title of the year please!!! :D

Layla
10-19-2002, 11:34 PM
Leo, I transcribed the on-court interview right after the match. I don't know if you'll be here to see it, but here it goes.

INT: Congratulations Lindsay! The way you hit the ball was beautiful, but the way you moved well thatís different. Whatís the problem?

LD: Yeah I donít know. I injured my I think shin this morning in practice and was feeling really well until about the last point of the 1st set tie-break and you know I just went for my shots there especially as it got worse, and I think that Justine had started missing a lot of balls but I mean Iím so lucky to get through. I donít know what to say, Iíve never had something like this and you know Iím really lucky to get through and I really hope it gets better in time for tomorrow.

INT: We all hope that obviously. When you were down 4-1 in the second set they said well if I know one person who can play on one leg extremely well thatís you because I mean nobody hits the ball better out there. Itís the right leg, do you think thatís somehow connected to your right knee, cause you had the injury there.

LD: Yeah, I really have no idea and the trainer was really great. I said what I can do and she said well try and finish the set and weíll see and Iím really happy I did. I think Iím really lucky. But I donít think so. Iím gonna see the doctor now and discuss it before the match but I hope not (laughter). I donít know until later.

INT: Well it happened to you once before in Munich that you won the semi-finals and could not play the finals.

LD: (laughter) Oh come on. No, I mean last time when I hurt my knee I couldnít even walk on it, so no Iíll definitely come out here tomorrow and give it my best shot and do everything I can. Iíll definitely take the court and come out here to play and I hope like I said I will get better in time for tomorrow.

INT: Well, weíll keep our fingers crossed and get better.

LD: Thank you.

Layla
10-19-2002, 11:39 PM
Hi Vera! :wavey:

LMAO. :D Rainer Schuttler isn't bad looking either, although not in that pic. :o

Layla
10-19-2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
hey layla! your girl Maja won her semifinal today 0-6, 6-2, 6-0 (crazy score)! :)

good luck in the finals! :bounce:

Yeah, such a funny score. Again she was 6-0 2-0 down and made a comeback. She said she had trouble adjusting to the court and the opponents but when she figured out what to do she won easily. :)

Wow, she has a chance of winning her first WTA title! :eek: She won 4 ITF titles, but that's it.

Yeah, I've seen her play a few times. She's a lefty and apparently, her favorite shot is the volley. I'm not sure she's top 20 material though. We'll see. She played well againt Mauresmo in the QF until she hurt her back and then her level dropped. Still, it was a good match, so she has potential. :)

She has a great homepage that her brother set up and she writes messages to it from the tourneys. It's really cute. She likes to use smilies too. ;)

Here's the link in case you're interested. It's in English too. http://www.majamatevzic.com

Layla
10-19-2002, 11:51 PM
Tim's wife gave birth to a baby girl! :bounce: They named her Rose Elizabeth. So maybe this day doesn't completely suck. ;)

Congrats Timmy and Lucy! :D

Tim will return to the tour immediately as he has to defend Basel. I hope this doesn't distract him too much from qualifying for Shanghai.

Layla
10-19-2002, 11:58 PM
Ok, after this posting binge, I have to go to bed, so I'll take my leave again. ;)

TH, thanks for posting Juanqui's interview. I like his spirit. He's definitely not a sore loser, unlike some who have ceased to exist. ;)

Mrs. B, I agree about Lindsay's fiancee. That's exactly what I was thinking (what a hottie that is). During her interview, she said she looked at him at the 2nd set tie-break, letting him know that if she doesn't win it, she's going home, but fortunately that wasn't the case. :) I was so relieved when she won. I was at the edge of my seat the whole second set.

Alrighty, good night everyone! Sweet dreams! :wavey:

John.Charles
10-20-2002, 12:34 AM
I really hate to say it but I want Agassi to win in the final tomorrow...:(


and hopefully he'll lose every match afterwards....including the round robins @ shanghai...;)

John.Charles
10-20-2002, 12:38 AM
........then again maybe not :fiery: (about winning his 3rd Masters this year)


damn you aggassi

u smell like ASS

Vera
10-20-2002, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by jcsting
I really hate to say it but I want Agassi to win in the final tomorrow...:(

and hopefully he'll lose every match afterwards....including the round robins @ shanghai...;)

Well, I think it might be better if Baldy win his next tourney in St. Petersbury, bcos that not so much points that he will gain there, probably not enough for him to de-throne Lleyton, but the match count would be sufficient to tired his old man body out, then, maybe he'll pull out in Paris. :p Besides, that will prevent Novak from gaining too many points in St. Peters...

BTW, the outcome of tomorrow's final is gonna makes us all sick, no matter who win. So, let's focus on the bright side. It's either Novak got kept 4 points behind Juanqui, or Gagassi got his ass kick by the least possible suspect. Either way is a lot more appealing than thinking who would win. :D

And for Baldy, he himself knows that 3 TMS still not equal to 1 USO. No matter which way he counts, he is still behind Sampras by Slams count or hair count. :p :D

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 03:55 AM
Well, Jiri will still gain points tomorrow because the finals points have not been added to his race score.

I'm going the same route as Layla on this one, just pretend it didn't happen and avoid all American news outlets like the plague for about two days. Luckily, whilst using Encarta today, I discovered this wonderful, wonderful internet radio station, Radio 101 (http://www.101.ru). It's the best free Russian internet radio station out there, or so they like to call themselves. They play American, British, and Russian music, news, and features. You don't even have to understand Russian to be amused by the Russian songs because some of them are quite funny.

So, happy thoughts once again--Juan Carlos & Michel are playing in Basel :) :) I can't wait to see the draw. I hope Richard qualifies!!

John.Charles
10-20-2002, 04:04 AM
well i know for certain that he'll never win another slam...EVER!! :mad:



....hey ferrero still has Basel and Paris to win before Shanghai :)


c'mon.....do well in Paris Juanki :bounce: u know u can do eht

Lee
10-20-2002, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Layla

Mrs. B, I agree about Lindsay's fiancee. That's exactly what I was thinking (what a hottie that is). During her interview, she said she looked at him at the 2nd set tie-break, letting him know that if she doesn't win it, she's going home, but fortunately that wasn't the case. :) I was so relieved when she won. I was at the edge of my seat the whole second set.



Hi Layla and Mrs. B, is there any pictures of Lindsay's fiancee? You gals make me really want to take a look at him.

Also, I agree that Lindsay is such a classy lady to fake injury.

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 10:30 AM
Leecal, i think Leo has a pic of them together somewhere here...

Layla
10-20-2002, 11:12 AM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

I can't stay as I have work to do and then I'll watch the women's final. Eurosport will show the replay at 4:15 pm and I don't want to inadvertently find out who won before the match. ;)

GOOD LUCK LINDSAY!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Hope she's feeling better now and can finally win the title.

Y'all have a good day! I'll be back later. :wavey:

RogiFan
10-20-2002, 01:38 PM
:fiery: AAARGH! This tournament has totally deteriorated into a farce. It's worse than you could have imagined--A-hole wins title without playing--Novak withdrew with a groin injury! He gets all the luck all the time, not fair!

On the bright side, this TMS becomes a "hollow victory" because AA didn't win it fair and square, didn't really earn it. Also, Juanqui stays in 4th place in the race cos Novak didn't win! :p

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 06:02 PM
Morning, all! :wavey:

I'm having a really hard time accessing the board, so until that clears up I won't be around very much. I also have work to do :rolleyes:

RogiFan, I also can't believe it. What a dud tournament this has turned out to be!! Only by a stroke of luck did Juanqui not suffer his position in the Race.

But really, what a horrible way to end a TMS event.

Layla
10-20-2002, 06:20 PM
Hi TH and RogiFan! :wavey:

I've already moved on, Madrid is now in the past. It promised a lot and delivered very little. Still, I can't help but be happy that Juanqui reached the QF of an indoor TMS. :) Congrats darling. :kiss:

Lindsay :sad: :sad: :sad: I thought I only cried after Juanqui's matches, but I was in tears towards the end of that match. To be so close yet so far away from that elusive first title of the year was just heartbreaking. And she didn't play badly at all. Her injury probably hampered her a little, but it seems like this tournament was a meant-to-be for Schnyder, so congrats to her. :) Defeating Davenport in front of a home audience in such a tight match must have felt very special. Lindsay was such a good sport afterwards. She kissed her on both cheeks and didn't seem too miserable at all during her post-match interview. She said all you can do is come back next year and try again. She also said she feels she has a few more years in her. :) Title or no title, she should be proud of her fantastic come-back. It'll happen eventually. :)

TH, do you still have problems accessing this board? :confused: It seems to work for me. Hope it gets better for you soon. :) Not that I don't have tons of work to do still. ;)

Layla
10-20-2002, 06:24 PM
One good news have come of this terrible day and week. :D

Maja Matevzic won her first WTA title today in Bratislava! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/blob_red.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/blob_red.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/blob_red.gif

She defeated Benesova 6-0 6-1. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Congrats girl! :) I think she made it into top 50 now. :bounce:

And not only that, on the same day she also won the doubles title with Nagynova, also her first. What an unbelievable tournament for her. :D

RogiFan
10-20-2002, 06:36 PM
:) :confused: TH:

Why are you having trouble accessing this board? I think I got a virus from one of these forums the other day.

Layla:

Yeah, smart girl to move on... I'm moving on to Basel this week [and keeping one eye on Stockholm and St. Petersburg -- well, half an eye on each];)

Let's hope this week delivers...:p

John.Charles
10-20-2002, 06:46 PM
Ok....Assi won by default....that sucks but he's a cheap ass mu----fu----.....but i'm over it:D


What Novak did right there....pulling out?.....he just pissed Agassi the fuck up....b/c he wanted to win the title not just it be handed to him....so i hope you're proud baldy....novak did everyone a favor...which by the look on your face you realize now by what that means....everyone on the tour wants you to RETIRE....

You're OLD and you smell like......ASS!!! :mad: :p

John.Charles
10-20-2002, 06:55 PM
oh shit....lindsay lost to shcyneder.... :sad: :sad: ....i couldn't ask for a better weekend....I got really sick the day Juanki played Assi....and endured that painful loss....i'm still feeling feverish....and now lindsay lost...good thing they're not airing it herre.....:(

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 06:59 PM
Hello again!

No, I'm not having problems anymore. Sometimes the server here at school goes down for twenty minutes at a time for various reasons, and internet browsing can be a pain. But it's better now. :) I was just able to update my website and come here with no problems.

LOL, I saw that Maja won and was on my way over to report it! But I see you beat me to the chase ;) Congrats to her!! A bagel and a breadstick is very impressive for a title win.

I wish they would hurry up and release the draw for Basel!! I'm so curious about it. Richard Gasquet squeaked into the last round of qualifying, so it will be interesting to see if he gets to the main draw, and who he draws!

Layla, Lindsay is defending yet another title this week (wow, she was really on a roll this time last year, wasn't she?) in Linz, so maybe she'll have a better time of it. Kimmy is also defending her title in Luxembourg :) So good luck to both.

Dissident
10-20-2002, 07:02 PM
Getting back from the travel to get the ultimate shitty news. :mad:
I knew about TMS Madrid, but didnt have any news on Lindsay having lost :sad: :fiery: Was it Schyner? And sheīs one of the most hated players for me, that brat! :mad:

Anyway, I have like 20 pages to catch here. :eek:

:wavey: everyone Ill be right back.

Oh, I posted the standings for the game. I SUCKED! :p

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:24 PM
:hearts: It's hitman! :hearts:

Welcome back :wavey:

LOL, I sucked at the game this week, too. :o And, er, I'm happy Patty could take a Swiss title, so don't venture into Rogi's forum, okay? Ssh! :o:o

Vera
10-20-2002, 07:27 PM
Hi everyone.:wavey:

I'm with you, TH. I like that Patty won a title. She finally put it together. She has so much talent it's a waste to see her not putting it into use. Though, sorry that Lindsay will have to wait for another tourney to get her first in this year. :(

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:29 PM
Hiya!! :wavey:

long time no see!;) I hope I havent missed much!

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:30 PM
LOL, Vera, she's defending this week as well, so she has a shot in Linz. I've got to think that Lindsay will put it together before the championships (hasn't she qualified for those, as well? Come on, she's only been playing for less than half a year!).

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:30 PM
Hey, ILR! :wavey: No, nothing but a lot of griping ;)

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:34 PM
Hi TH :wavey:

Oh well I still feel as if I missed out on a lot of stuff.But Im back for the time being :)

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:36 PM
ILR, they miss you in Rogi's forum :( You should go reassure them that you're still alive ;)

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:36 PM
awww thats nice to hear ;) You mean you dont miss me here? :( :eek: ;)

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
You mean you dont miss me here? :( :eek: ;)

No. No we didn't miss you at all :rolleyes:

Get serious, ILR! Leo has been pining away without you :(:sad:

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:39 PM
lol having withdrawal symptoms huh?;) Well where is he now eh?

BTW Im perfectly serious all of the time ;):p

Vera
10-20-2002, 07:40 PM
Hi ILR:wavey:

I love that pic of Patty holding the trophy, she looks so happy. But I guess I shouldn't post it, since not many of you guys like her here.

Looking ahead at Basel, if Juanqui can make it to at least QF and beyond, then he can breath easier in Paris. He had pretty okay record in Paris though, a SF in 2000. So he can play in carpet, right?

Dissident
10-20-2002, 07:40 PM
Ouch, I cant stand Patty, sorry. :mad:

Congrats to Maja though. Since the beggining of the year I was keeping my eyes open for her and Eleni Daniilidou. :eek:
It looks like both had some good moments.
And her scores were like :eek:

As for TMS Madrid, yes, it sucked HUGE time.
Theres a positive way to look at it though: EVERYTHING that could go wrong did this year, so next year will probably be very good.
And maybe Paris gives us the good news back

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:41 PM
Hi Vera! :wavey: How are ya? :)

Ive seen Layla about somewhere I think,come and say hi to me I missed you aswell you know :rolleyes:

Dissident
10-20-2002, 07:41 PM
Hi TH, Vera, ILR!
:wavey:

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:42 PM
Hey Hitman :wavey:

Vera
10-20-2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
Hi Vera! :wavey: How are ya? :)


Thanks for asking. I'm fine, except for coughing my lung out at the moment. I think the flu season hit me head on. :( Maybe a little bit of English tea would help.

And Hitman is back.:wavey: Let's hope there be no more Agassi and Novak next year, they can both retire for good.

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Looking ahead at Basel, if Juanqui can make it to at least QF and beyond, then he can breath easier in Paris. He had pretty okay record in Paris though, a SF in 2000. So he can play in carpet, right?

Yes, he can play on carpet :) I think he'll make it to the QFs in Basel, last year's shocker first round loss in St. Petersburg was an abberation. :eek:

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by hitman
As for TMS Madrid, yes, it sucked HUGE time.
Theres a positive way to look at it though: EVERYTHING that could go wrong did this year, so next year will probably be very good.
And maybe Paris gives us the good news back

I like your way of thinking, hitman. I only wish I could be so positive.

A bit of Russian radio always helps, though ;)

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:46 PM
aww colds are really bad,poor you.I hate them but I get them all the time in England.I love drinking tea nice and warm :)

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by hitman
Was it Schyner? And sheīs one of the most hated players for me, that brat! :mad:




Credit to her she really hang on there, Lindsay had match point on the tie break in the second set. And Patty served well, played smart. Lindsay, not the best athlete around, could only look at some of the balls that went down the line. I think it's also good for her to win this title at home, she's been down and out and her story with that healer hasn't endeared her to the Swiss, she's still estranged from her father who has her money, but i think she's grown up, she's playing well again, she's found a new boyfriend who supports her and loves her and she's happy with her life at the moment.

Dissident
10-20-2002, 07:47 PM
Oh, I have nothing against Novak, since he is just boring.
And Agassi is not that bad either, but they playing each other is like nightmare. :rolleyes:

And to think we could have some wonderful finals like
federer vs juanqui/grosjean
santoro vs grosjean/juanqui
srichaphan as well. :fiery:

Oh shitty week. :sad:
And Lindsay :sad: :sad:

Vera
10-20-2002, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Yes, he can play on carpet :) I think he'll make it to the QFs in Basel, last year's shocker first round loss in St. Petersburg was an abberation. :eek:

Ya, but my feeling is that last year, his clay season was so good that it took a lot out of him. So the latter part of the season, he was a little inflated. This year is entirely the opposite. The the early part of the season didn't went so well. But things turned around so much lately...:D Lovely that would be, to see him and rogi in Shanghai.

Layla
10-20-2002, 07:48 PM
Hi ILR, Hitman and Vera! :wavey:

Lol, I was reading another board, all those heated debated about whether Lindsay faked her injury or not and it made me a little irate (that's an understatement). Moving on.

Yeah I missed you ILR! :( But I wasn't here yesterday either. You really didn't miss much but complaining about Madrid. ;) Hopefully there won't be any need for complaining from now on. :angel:

Did you have a good time during the weekend?

Dissident
10-20-2002, 07:50 PM
dont mind me Mrs B, I cant stand her because I dont like the way she plays, and some problems with quotes from the past. And she just beat Lindsay, so...
I will forget about her existence tomorrow though ;)

Dissident
10-20-2002, 07:52 PM
Anyway, Ill have to leave now to watch the football.
My football team is sucking so much as well! :sad:
We need a win today desperately. Ill watch it and try to help.

CMON ! :fiery:

Layla
10-20-2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by hitman

As for TMS Madrid, yes, it sucked HUGE time.
Theres a positive way to look at it though: EVERYTHING that could go wrong did this year, so next year will probably be very good.
And maybe Paris gives us the good news back

Amen to that Hitman. Let's hope you're right. :)

TH, Lindsay won't defend her title in Linz, she withdrew from the tournament today on account of her injury. :( She said she hoped she's done enough to play the championship because she really wants to play in LA. But we still have Kimmy to cheer for. :)

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:53 PM
Hi :)

Well I could complain about Madrid,but I dont want to.:) Im not really in a complaining kind of mood.:angel: Yes thanx,I did have a nice weekend,babysitting playing football(and winning again) eating lots of pizza buying birthday presents and just having fun.:)

lol @ Hackie for thinking shes like Kat(10 things I hate about you) ;) Heath is such a cutie in that film :)

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Ya, but my feeling is that last year, his clay season was so good that it took a lot out of him. So the latter part of the season, he was a little inflated. This year is entirely the opposite. The the early part of the season didn't went so well. But things turned around so much lately...:D Lovely that would be, to see him and rogi in Shanghai.

I agree, I think he'll play well for the rest of the year. So he'll be in Shangai :D

I can't believe how many people here hate Jiri Novak! :eek: He has earned his spot in the race with his ultra consistent results. I find it hard to deny him what he's earned. But I guess that's just my opinion . . .

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:53 PM
whoa your team Hitman?

Layla
10-20-2002, 07:55 PM
Good luck to your football team, Hitman! I hope they make your day. :) :wavey:

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Layla
TH, Lindsay won't defend her title in Linz, she withdrew from the tournament today on account of her injury. :( She said she hoped she's done enough to play the championship because she really wants to play in LA. But we still have Kimmy to cheer for. :)

Aww :( I'm sorry.

Yay Kimmy! I just have to wonder how many more years she's going to play here. It is a Tier III, after all. I'm happy that she keeps going back, though :) Stay true to your tourneys, I guess.

Good luck, hitman. I hope the weekend doesn't turn into a horrible nightmare. Gooooo hitman's team (LOL, I *am* a clueless American)!!!!!!

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by hitman
dont mind me Mrs B, I cant stand her because I dont like the way she plays, and some problems with quotes from the past. And she just beat Lindsay, so...
I will forget about her existence tomorrow though ;)

Don't tell the Swiss but i was rooting for Lindsay too. Aww, she missed some shots by just a hair. And she was fair. Patty served an ace that was called out and Lindsay acknowledged that it was good by walking back to her chair...

Ubrigens, HI everyone!!! :wavey:

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:57 PM
Hi Mrs.B :wavey:

ILR
10-20-2002, 07:59 PM
oh speaking of football,Liverpool are where they belong,sitting pretty on top of the premiership :D

Vera
10-20-2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I agree, I think he'll play well for the rest of the year. So he'll be in Shangai :D

I can't believe how many people here hate Jiri Novak! :eek: He has earned his spot in the race with his ultra consistent results. I find it hard to deny him what he's earned. But I guess that's just my opinion . . .

In fact, I don't hate Jiri, until this tourney. Bcos he basically kick Moya out of Shanghai. Moya's now tied with Henman at #7. But he's not as good a carpet player as Henman, besides, his back is acting up. So his chance to Shanghai is quite shaky. I just feel bad for Carlos, cos he had a great year so far and he would be so disappointed for missing Shanghai.

Vera
10-20-2002, 08:01 PM
Hi Mrs. B and Layla.

Mrs B, please do tell us all about Basel, since you are a lucky one to get to see it.

Layla
10-20-2002, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I agree, I think he'll play well for the rest of the year. So he'll be in Shangai :D

I can't believe how many people here hate Jiri Novak! :eek: He has earned his spot in the race with his ultra consistent results. I find it hard to deny him what he's earned. But I guess that's just my opinion . . .

I don't hate Novak. :eek: In fact, I quite like him, except when he's beating my faves. ;) I agree that he deserves his spot. He's just not the most exciting player on the tour, but who says he has to be. At least he's not annoying. ;) I think the animosity has come as a result of his rapid climb up the race at the finish. Many people are afraid for their faves (myself included :o ). After he won in Vienna (I think it was a semi-final match), he brought his little boy with him on court. He looked like him lol. But he was sulking and crying and didn't care if his daddy has just won a match and was about to give a delighted interview. :D

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Hi Mrs. B and Layla.

Mrs B, please do tell us all about Basel, since you are a lucky one to get to see it.

I'll do my very best, Vera! But i'll only be going for a day... :)

ILR
10-20-2002, 08:07 PM
oh and thanx Hackie for the piccie of Rogi and Nico,with his cute butt!lol @ Mrs.B ;) :drool:

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't hate Novak. :eek: In fact, I quite like him, except when he's beating my faves. ;) I agree that he deserves his spot. He's just not the most exciting player on the tour, but who says he has to be. At least he's not annoying. ;) I think the animosity has come as a result of his rapid climb up the race at the finish. Many people are afraid for their faves (myself included :o ). After he won in Vienna (I think it was a semi-final match), he brought his little boy with him on court. He looked like him lol. But he was sulking and crying and didn't care if his daddy has just won a match and was about to give a delighted interview. :D

Oh, I'm afraid that he'll usurp a place in the Race, too, but at least he earned it (unless Costa schlepping in) and could make the Cup quite interesting (also unlike Costa, who sucks on indoor hardcourts).

Aww, that's so cute!! Players are so cute with their children. I love seeing Zhenya with his daughter. She also never looks too pleased to have her daddy giving interviews after his matches.

Vera
10-20-2002, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B


I'll do my very best, Vera! But i'll only be going for a day... :)

Oh, that's okay. But you will also be getting it on TV, right? We don't have coverage in N. America.:(

Vera
10-20-2002, 08:11 PM
TH, do you know what they will show on ESPN today, since there's no final? I wonder if that's the double or maybe yesterday's SF of Seb and Andre. I don't mean watching Seb.

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 08:13 PM
Hmm, that's an interesting question--I don't know what they'll be showing. Probably the ceremony :rolleyes: and Agassi's semifinal, or maybe the other semi. I doubt they'd show doubs, they avoid doubs like the plague :rolleyes:

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Vera


Oh, that's okay. But you will also be getting it on TV, right? We don't have coverage in N. America.:(


Oh sure, Swiss tv will cover this event, and Eurosport too. :)

Sometimes we're lucky, sometimes you're lucky... ;)

ILR
10-20-2002, 08:16 PM
Mrs.B,you havent said hi to me yet :( ;) :p

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
Mrs.B,you havent said hi to me yet :( ;) :p

I said HI to everyone, ilR. and i was lookin for u at Rogi's forum. Did u see the pic of him that i posted? he's got the world on his hand...:drool:

ILR
10-20-2002, 08:25 PM
lol sorry.Yeah,I had seen it,its great where did you find it? :) Well I was there before,I go back and to.

Vera
10-20-2002, 08:34 PM
BTW, not everyone hate Jiri, but seems that everyone hate Costa? Why?

I think I'm the only one who would prefer Costa over Johansson in Shanghai. Despite the fact that he beat Juanqui in RG, I think he's a good player. And since he's a good friend of Juanqui, I just thought Juanqui will like the company in Shanghai.:)

ILR
10-20-2002, 08:37 PM
Im indifferent to Costa.I dont really have an opinion on him he doesnt bother me.Well when I say I dont have an opinion I mean,well hes just another tennis player,mean as that sounds

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 08:42 PM
No, most people would rather have Costa in Shanghai than Johansson, amazingly enough :rolleyes: I don't want Costa there because he'd be dead weight. Johansson would have a much better chance of at least winning a match against these guys than Costa, if for no other reason than the surface is better suited to him than Costa.

They say Johansson deserves the spot even less because he hasn't done anything since the Aussie Open. Well, duh, kinda hard to play when your arm, shoulder, knees are continually messed up! :sad:

Costa also just irritates me. The eyebrow thing! UGH!! LOL :o

Layla
10-20-2002, 08:47 PM
I don't mind Costa, apart from what he did to Juanqui. He was playing phenomenally well during the clay season, especially at RG. But I don't think he's a deserving candidate to be among top 8 players at the end of the year. And like TH said, he's useless indoors, as opposed to his Spanish friends. ;) I would much rather see Johansson there.

Oh and yay for Liverpool!!! :D

Layla
10-20-2002, 08:49 PM
ILR, you haven't written any horoscopes in a while. ;) Do you still have a taste for that? I'm writing them right now. General. No pressure though, if you don't feel like it. ;)

Vera
10-20-2002, 08:54 PM
So the round robin thing, is it seed odd seeds in one group and even seeds in another group?

Well, Costa is indeed useless on carpet, all the better to Juanqui's chance :D :D :D I thought Juanqui had a great chance if he didn't run into Hewitt in SF last year.

ILR
10-20-2002, 08:56 PM
lol go on then Layla,Ill have a go.Just for you :)

Layla
10-20-2002, 09:01 PM
Thanks ILR! :) Like I said, the topic is general. Anything you like. ;)

ILR
10-20-2002, 09:05 PM
OK will you be around for a long time?

Mrs. B
10-20-2002, 09:07 PM
for Layla... :)

BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (Ticker) -- Slovenian Maja Matevzic thumped Czech qualifier Iveta Benesova, 6-0, 6-1, on Sunday to win the $110,000 VUB Open indoor tennis event.

After dropping the first set of her semifinal against third seed and defending champion Rita Grande on Saturday, Matevzic wrapped up her first career WTA Tour title by losing just three games in her last four sets.

The 22-year-old Matevzic, who earned $16,000, has made great strides this season. She played in all four Grand Slam tournaments in one year for the first time and reached her first semifinal at the Porto Ladies Open in April. Two weeks ago, the lefthander appeared in her first career Tier I event quarterfinal in Moscow.

Matevzic later paired with Slovakian Henrieta Nagyova to defeat the third-seeded team of Nathalie Dechy of France and American Meilen Tu, 6-4, 6-0, for her first career doubles crown. It was the sixth time this year a player swept the singles and doubles titles at one event.

"Of course, I am very, very happy for those results today," she said. "Bratislava is my lucky city. I felt I was playing pretty well this week and I got my first WTA Tour titles. Two in one day, fantastic!"

Benesova was overwhelmed in the final but had the best week of her career. The 19-year-old Czech, who had never won two successive matches in a WTA Tour main draw event before this week, ousted eighth seed Laura Granville in the first round and the top seed, Dechy, in the semifinals.

"I am sorry for today," said Benesova, who was trying to become the third qualifier this year to win a singles title. "I tried to give my best but I could not find any weapons against Maja. She really surprised me with her good game.

"I am still very happy for this week, even if I'm disappointed about my game today. It is the end of the year -- I will have time to forget."

This was a Tier V event.

ILR
10-20-2002, 09:18 PM
Is there someone out there who hates you?Well maybe there is someone upstairs who hates you?Or so it seems.Things just arent going well this week are they?It seems like there has been a storm brewing for ages within family over something that had nothing to do with you.The best thing to do is straighten things out,sooner rather than later.If things get really tough this week all you have to do is look on the bright side and think that there is always someone else worse off than you.This cloud hanging over your head will pass.Just give it time :)

Layla
10-20-2002, 09:33 PM
Lol, I think a lot of people here will agree with your horoscope. ;) Thank you so much. :) I feel like the cloud is already passing.

ILR
10-20-2002, 09:36 PM
yeh its true I guess thats why I wrote it.Its OK you know I dont mind doing them.Anytime :)

Vera
10-20-2002, 09:43 PM
Gasquet lost in the Basel quali. TH won't like it too much.

ILR
10-20-2002, 09:48 PM
i gotta go now,mite be back soon as no school tomorrow :wavey:

Vera
10-20-2002, 09:48 PM
But then, there's only 21 main draw players, with Moya, Haas, Sampras pulled out so far. There's lots of LL spots available.

Layla
10-20-2002, 09:49 PM
Gasquet lost? Ouch. :( I suppose it's not officially next week yet, so bad news are still acceptable. Come tomorrow, there won't be any for the next month and a half. ;)

ILR, I think I forgot to congratulate you on your football vicotry. :) Your team rocks! :bounce:

Btw, it's so cold here I can't even imagine playing football outdoors. :eek:

Layla
10-20-2002, 09:51 PM
:wavey: ILR! I'll probably still be working for at least 2 hours. :(

TennisHack
10-20-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Gasquet lost in the Basel quali. TH won't like it too much.


!!!! Oh no :( I haven't even seen the last round of qualies results.

Dissident
10-20-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
whoa your team Hitman?

Internacional, a brazilian team from my home town.

And we WON!!! :D:D:D
Oh my God, Im gonna use you peopleīs help more often from now on! THANKS! :kiss: all around. :D