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Dissident
09-25-2002, 01:54 PM
lol @ the cartoon. :p
As for the weather, it sucks. It seems like it went crazy all over. We are entering spring and its almost as cold as winter. :mad: My throat is now screwed up and I have tons of things to do. :p
Anyway, lets all concentrate on better weather, then.
OHHHMMMMMM! ;)

TennisHack
09-25-2002, 04:17 PM
Well, the official word is that all matches have been postponed until tomorrow. So they will still be playing first round matches on Thursday. :rolleyes:

Can they cancel the tournament, if the players thought they would be playing to receive and defend points? Wouldn't they have to offer an alternative?

TennisHack
09-25-2002, 04:18 PM
Poor hitman and his throat :( There's something going around on my campus, too. Not good for the language classes.

TennisHack
09-25-2002, 04:23 PM
The Ferrero-Koubek match resumed briefly today, only long enough for Stefan to win a game (on his serve, presumably).

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Rain continues to plague Salem Open
September 25, 2002

HONG KONG (Ticker) - Rain continues to plague the $400,000 Salem Open.

Only one match resumed briefly on Wednesday before rain washed out play.

Rain forced three matches to be suspended on Tuesday and only the one between Austrian Stefan Koubek and Spain's Juan Carlos Ferrero resumed. However, after Koubek won one game to take a 3-2 lead in the second set, rain halted play. Ferrero, winner of the Tennis Masters Series Monte Carlo, won the first set, 6-2 on Tuesday.

Due to the rain, a total of 13 first-round singles matches are scheduled to be played on Thursday.

Only Nicolas Massu, Francisco Clavet and Hyung-Taik Lee have booked their places in the second round.

On Tuesday, Cecil Mamiit and Jonas Bjorkman were tied 3-3, while Jeff Morrison was up 6-1, 1-1 over Takao Suzuki when play was suspended.

No. 3 Carlos Moya takes on Jan-Michael Gambill for the fifth time in their careers. The Spaniard won four of his 11 ATP titles this year. He also was a finalist in Monte Carlo. Gambill reached the final in Los Angeles where he fell to countryman Andre Agassi.

Russian Marat Safin, still looking for his first title of the year, faces Lars Burgsmuller of Germany. Safin is third in the ATP Champions Race after making the final at the Australian Open and semifinals at Roland Garros and TMS Hamburg.

Safin just won two singles matches over the weekend to help Russia defeat Argentina in the Davis Cup semifinals.

American Taylor Dent takes on Paradorn Srichaphan in his debut at this tournament. Srichaphan has played well this season, including his first career title in Long Island which has proppeled him up to 31st in the ATP Champions Race. Dent won the Newport Challenger and reached the third round of successive Tennis Masters Series events in Toronto and Cincinnati.

Wild card and three-time Hong Kong winner Michael Chang is playing here for the 12th straight year. Chang, 30, meets fourth-seeded Alex Corretja who is playing in Hong Kong for the first time. Chang, who recently hinted at retirement, has won the his only two meetings with Corretja.

The Spanish player two tournaments this year at Gstaad and Kitzbuehel and was a semifinalist at the French Open and Long Island.

First prize is $51,500.

Layla
09-25-2002, 09:21 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

This rain is driving me crazy. Here's another article (from gotennis).

HONG KONG (AFP) - Tropical rains wrecked the Hong Kong Open for a second consecutive day on Wednesday with Spaniard Juan Carlos Ferrero and Austrian Stefan Koubek the only players able to get on court - and that was for just one solitary game.

Frustrated players, including world No. 3 Marat Safin and former world No. 1 Carlos Moya, were forced to watch the intermittent rain from the change rooms with tentative practice hits on wet courts their only respite.

Tournament second seed Ferrero and Koubek were forced to wait more than seven hours before getting on to center court, and managed just one game in three minutes of play, before the match was suspended because of wet weather.

Ferrero had led 6-2, 2-2 when their match was called off on Tuesday because of rain. Twenty-four hours later, the score stood at 6-2, 2-3, with Koubek holding serve, when the frustrated players were again forced to walk off.

In other matches scheduled for Wednesday that were postponed until Thursday, Moya was due to play Jan Michael-Gambill, Thailand's Paradorn Srichapan was to face American Taylor Dent, and local favorite Michael Chang was matched up against Spain's Alex Corretja.

Only three matches from the first-round of the 32-man draw have been played in three days of competition here.

But tournament director Lincoln Venancio said with the whole of the first round rescheduled to be played on Thursday, he was confident of the final being held as planned on Sunday.

Layla
09-25-2002, 09:25 PM
I've just come back from the movies. :) I saw Insomnia and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's a fascinating movie about guilt, crossing the line and finding out what you are prepared to live with. Al Pacino will always be one of my all time favorite actors and he just demonstrated why yet again. Terrific performances all round, especially from Robin Williams as a psychotic killer. It's refreshing to see him step out of his usual range of roles.

Vera
09-25-2002, 09:45 PM
There should be an article about frustrated fans waiting in front of the computer for score, and not knowing there's a rain delay until late...

Hi Layla, back from movie. I heard good about Insomnia too, haven't got a chance to see it yet. Another one Williams' film "One hour photo" is supposed to be good too. I'm planning to watch that one first since it's still in cinema right now, and it also features Michael Vartan, that hunkie French turned American guy.

Layla
09-25-2002, 09:51 PM
I know. I must've hit the refresh button at least a million times. But I'm relieved to hear that the one game Koubek won today was on his serve. That's just the kind of information I was looking for, that's why I posted the article.

Hmmm, I've never heard of that movie. They come to Slovenia with a slight delay. Be sure to let me know if it's any good. :) Who is Michael Vartan? I don't seem to remember that name at the moment, although it does sound vaguely familiar.

Vera
09-25-2002, 09:58 PM
Have you seen "Never Been Kissed", the one with Drew Barrymore? He sorta got noticed in that movie. But he's not very famous so... Here's a pic of him.

Layla
09-25-2002, 10:05 PM
Of course!!! That's why his name was familiar to me. I love this guy. He is truly adorable. He was in Allie McBeal. Too bad it was only two episodes. I didn't know he was French. No wonder I immediately took a liking to him. ;) I checked him out and noticed that he played Lancelot in The Mists of Avalon, a mini-series. I wish I could see it, but I doubt they the Slovene TV will ever buy it. :( Did you see it?

Hehe, it says he's single. :p

Vera
09-25-2002, 10:07 PM
Hey, did you know an Italian movie called "L'Ultimo Bacio" The Last Kiss? I'm going to see it this friday (well, at least that's the plan). They compared this one to "Cinema Paradiso" and "Life is Beautiful" so I have high expectation of this one.

Layla
09-25-2002, 10:12 PM
No, I haven't heard of it. But here's Michael again. :)

Vera
09-25-2002, 10:13 PM
Ya, Michael is born in France and grow up there until he moved to the States at 18 to live with his American mother. Anyway, he's been here and there, it likes you saw him and then he's gone (ie. 2 episodes in Ally) and then you thought, wow, who's that hunk? I actually noticed him but didn't know his name until he became an agent in "Alias". I'm delighted to see him becomes a major character in a popular TV show, so that I can watch him every week. But, no, I didn't see Mists of Avalon, I would if I know he's in it.

Layla
09-25-2002, 10:13 PM
One more and then I'm done (for now). ;)

Layla
09-25-2002, 10:15 PM
Oh, we've never seen Alias over here. Is it new?

Vera
09-25-2002, 10:15 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool:
I'm happy to see them keep coming but I'm also satisfied with what you got here.

Vera
09-25-2002, 10:18 PM
It is new last season. Season no. 2 coming up in a week. It really is one of the hit series this year so I'm sure you will be able to see it. Though his character gone missing (sort of, he got trapped in a room full of water, so we are supposed to wonder if his character got killed or what).

Layla
09-25-2002, 10:24 PM
Ouch, I hope his contract was renewed. ;)

I gotta go for a while. I'll be back later. :wavey:

Vera
09-25-2002, 10:26 PM
Okay, later.:wavey:

Leo7
09-25-2002, 11:18 PM
hey Vera! :wavey: you watch Alias too? i love that show. a bit confusing at times cuz there's so many plot twists, but i :hearts: Jennifer! did you know that she won the Golden Globe this year for Best Actress in a TV Show and was nominated (shoulda won) for Best Actress in a Drama at the Emmy's?!

TennisHack
09-25-2002, 11:39 PM
Hey everyone! Finally a subject I can talk about: Michael Vartan :drool: He is beautiful in "Never Been Kissed", both looks wise and character wise. The only reason (at the time) that I bought the soundtrack is because the booklet had a huge picture of the final kissing scene, where he was quite :drool:worthy. :o

I have never really watched Alias myself, but all of the previews for the second season are highlighting the love triangle between his character, the main character (Jennifer Garner) and another character that I don't know much about. I guess they're trying to attract more romantic viewers like me ;)

Thanks for the lovely pictures of him!!

Leo7
09-25-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Hey everyone! Finally a subject I can talk about: Michael Vartan :drool: He is beautiful in "Never Been Kissed", both looks wise and character wise. The only reason (at the time) that I bought the soundtrack is because the booklet had a huge picture of the final kissing scene, where he was quite :drool:worthy. :o


oh yes, i remember that movie Never Been Kissed ! Drew Barrymore was quite :drool: worthy herself! :D :drool:

TennisHack
09-25-2002, 11:42 PM
Somewhere you were talking about "Dead Poets' Society", which I also love and adore. That's the move that started my Robert Sean Leonard craze that still lasts today.

TennisHack
09-25-2002, 11:43 PM
LOL, Leo ;)

I really like Drew Barrymore and the roles she's taken in the past few years. I saw the movie for her and ended up loving it for Michael :o

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:04 AM
Did someone mention kissing? :kiss:

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:05 AM
Continued...

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:06 AM
The end...

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:17 AM
Sorry about that. I guess I'm in a romantic mood. :hearts:

It's good to know I wasn't the only one to notice this gorgeous actor. Now I will start petitioning for the Slovene TV to buy Alias. :)

Dead Poets' Society had a huge impact on my life, I must admit. It helped me find more joy in life and take more risks. And the Robert Sean Leonard obsession is perfectly understandable. ;) It's a shame that he hasn't been in that many movies since, at least not popular ones.

Vera
09-26-2002, 12:17 AM
Oh, it's hot in here...yum...

Hey Leo, I like Jennifer Garner too, she is really cool in Alias. I think she fights better then Sarah Michelle Galler. And before Alias, I seen her at Felicity and she was so nerdy then so I didn't expect that she can be so cool. And I realised that she won Golden Globe (or some award) the first time around. Well, her character in Alias really rocks.

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:37 AM
Hmmm, I didn't really like her in Felicity. Hope she's better in Alias. ;)

Speaking of TV shows, I just thought I would post my favorite TV character ever, as a gift to myself. :D

Vera
09-26-2002, 12:39 AM
Oh, don't we all love Due South!!!

Vera
09-26-2002, 12:42 AM
Mine would be Constable Fraser in Due South and Agent Cooper in Twin Peaks. They are equally refreshing.

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:42 AM
I don't know. Do we? :confused: I thought I was the only one who was crazy about that show.

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Mine would be Constable Fraser in Due South and Agent Cooper in Twin Peaks. They are equally refreshing.

So true. Those would be my picks as well, and I would add Jarod from The Pretender. Notice that all 3 have a lot in common. A different perception of the world, that is both refreshing and enlightening. And all three have very high ethical standards, which is another reason why I love them so much. :)

Vera
09-26-2002, 12:45 AM
Okay, maybe not everyone then. But because he's canadian and he played a canadian in Due South, that makes it adorable for me, and me friends.

Vera
09-26-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Layla


A different perception of the world, that is both refreshing and enlightening.

Exactly. But I didn't really watch much of Pretender.

Layla
09-26-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Okay, maybe not everyone then. But because he's canadian and he played a canadian in Due South, that makes it adorable for me, and me friends.

Oh, ok then. :) I'm so used to being laughed at for loving that show, I thought maybe you were just pulling my leg. :o

Vera
09-26-2002, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Layla


Oh, ok then. :) I'm so used to being laughed at for loving that show, I thought maybe you were just pulling my leg. :o

Hmmm, I see. I was actually studying in the States when the show came out. But my friend and I love Due South and they aren't canadian. They were obsessed with the show. So I really thought everyone likes it.

Well, some ppl just can't accept things outside the norm. Reminded me of that movie Edward scissorhead, Edward not being accepted because he's a "little" different. And same to Depp who always goes for odd characters, but I like him, I think he is a really good actor.

Vera
09-26-2002, 01:15 AM
Dinner time for me so I'm gonna go!

You are really burning your midnight oil, Layla. Well, have fun. Thanks for chatting.

And Moya's game starts in one and a half hours, I'll be back later to cheer for him and Juanqui for sure. Please no more rain.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Continued...

This is the picture from the album booklet--well, the whole picture. Mmmmmm ;)

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Dead Poets' Society had a huge impact on my life, I must admit. It helped me find more joy in life and take more risks. And the Robert Sean Leonard obsession is perfectly understandable. ;) It's a shame that he hasn't been in that many movies since, at least not popular ones.

Well, I like the fact that Robert Sean hasn't compromised his acting roots for monetary gain. He grew up on the stage and has returned there, mostly acting on Broadway in various plays. He even won a Tony Award for his role in The Invention of Love last year!! (Best Featured Actor, I believe)

And of course its the same with him as with Michel and Jarkko and the other tennis players I rarely see: it just makes his appearances even more sweet :) Of course, it doesn't hurt that he's absolutely gorgeous, even if he has gotten a little too skinny lately.

From the 2001 Tony Awards

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Hmmm, I didn't really like her in Felicity. Hope she's better in Alias. ;)


I agree, I thought Felicity and Noel should be together so of course I didn't appreciate her wedging between them ;) Another good show now off the air :(

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:27 AM
:wavey: Vera!

Enjoy your dinner. It was lovely chatting to you, especially since you enjoy Due South as well. ;)

Johnny Depp is definitely one of my favorite actors. His performance in Edward Scissorhands was outstanding. Another superb role was in Benny and June (one of the great romantic movies I forgot to mention). He has a flair for the silent-movie-type burlesque.

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Well, I like the fact that Robert Sean hasn't compromised his acting roots for monetary gain. He grew up on the stage and has returned there, mostly acting on Broadway in various plays. He even won a Tony Award for his role in The Invention of Love last year!! (Best Featured Actor, I believe)

And of course its the same with him as with Michel and Jarkko and the other tennis players I rarely see: it just makes his appearances even more sweet :) Of course, it doesn't hurt that he's absolutely gorgeous, even if he has gotten a little too skinny lately.

From the 2001 Tony Awards

Wow, I didn't know he returned to the stage. That's great. :) We don't get to hear much about Broadway in Europe. Congrats for his Tony Award. I know that's a major achievement.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Layla
Wow, I didn't know he returned to the stage. That's great. :) We don't get to hear much about Broadway in Europe. Congrats for his Tony Award. I know that's a major achievement.

I don't follow Broadway very much (I barely follow television anymore) but indeed it is very prestigious of him. He's had steady work for, I'd say, the last five years or so. And he's been in some movies as well, arthouse or things you'd never expect to see him in (Driven, the Sly Stallone flick?!). But I was ecstatic to learn he had won theater acting's biggest award. My only regret was that I didn't get to see him on TV (the Tony Awards are broadcast live every year, and I missed it :().

Oh, Robert Sean, how I love you. ::sigh::

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I agree, I thought Felicity and Noel should be together so of course I didn't appreciate her wedging between them ;) Another good show now off the air :(

You did? I suppose at the time when she showed up I was pissed off at Noel for putting Felicity through so much pain. But unlike you, I never felt they should really be together. Felicity belonged with Ben, even though he was quite often a big jerk. Still, I'm a firm believer in true love and Ben was Felicity's one and only love. She never had the same feelings for Noel and I don't think compromises work in love, even though they might guarantee you companionship. In the end, I want more than that, and so did Felicity.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by Layla
You did? I suppose at the time when she showed up I was pissed off at Noel for putting Felicity through so much pain. But unlike you, I never felt they should really be together. Felicity belonged with Ben, even though he was quite often a big jerk. Still, I'm a firm believer in true love and Ben was Felicity's one and only love. She never had the same feelings for Noel and I don't think compromises work in love, even though they might guarantee you companionship. In the end, I want more than that, and so did Felicity.

Ultimately, yes, I wanted Felicity to end up with Noel. I liked him a lot more than Ben, especially in the beginning. Ben was such a jerk! Complete rejection on all sides. :( At this point, I would have given up on it, I think--I can only handle so much pain from the guy I love before I just shelve it and say "forget it". Noel was no angel, mind you, but I rather liked the idea of his love for her when she didn't necessarily reciprocate his feelings.

Has the show ended in your country yet? I don't want to spoil it ;) It's been awhile since I've seen it, the first season especially, but I think I remember what I'm talking about . . .

At any rate, I agree with your statement at the end that compromisses don't work in love--I just wish she had given him more of a chance at the beginning. I also think she ended up compromising A LOT with Ben because she wanted to make it work (again, don't want to spoil). I don't think a relationship with Noel would have lasted, but ultimately I think it would have been less painful than what really happened.

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I don't follow Broadway very much (I barely follow television anymore) but indeed it is very prestigious of him. He's had steady work for, I'd say, the last five years or so. And he's been in some movies as well, arthouse or things you'd never expect to see him in (Driven, the Sly Stallone flick?!). But I was ecstatic to learn he had won theater acting's biggest award. My only regret was that I didn't get to see him on TV (the Tony Awards are broadcast live every year, and I missed it :().

Oh, Robert Sean, how I love you. ::sigh::

Well, maybe you will see him this year (or next year, I don't know when the Tony Awards are held).

I just checked and the last two movies I saw him in were The Age of Innocence and Swing Kids and that was in 1993! :eek: That's a real shame. I agree that rare appearances are all the more sweet but not when there aren't any for so many years. :p

I also noticed that he played in The Glass Menagerie (theater). That's my favorite play of all times. :) That was in 1997. I wonder which role he played.

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:55 AM
No, Felicity hasn't ended yet. I think there's one more season (or two?). Ben was confused about Avery, but that got resolved. I don't know when I will get to see the next season though.

There are different types of compromises. Compromises within a relationship are necessary, or two different people couldn't possibly live together. What I meant was, you can't make yourself love somebody just because he would make a more suitable partner. I agree that Noel would have been much better for Felicity, but her heart wouldn't be in it and I actually think that's worse than getting hurt by someone you really love. It's almost a betrayal of yourself. You either love someone or you don't. There's not much you can do about it. It's all a mystery. ;)

Leo7
09-26-2002, 01:56 AM
oh, Felicity was so bad after the first season! sorry, but i thought the show went downhill fast. much like Buffy and Dawson's Creek. :rolleyes:

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:56 AM
But I also agree that there's a limit to how much you can take from someone you love, before you shut the door forever. Forgiveness is a noble act, but it can also be a stupid or even dangerous one.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Layla
No, Felicity hasn't ended yet. I think there's one more season (or two?). Ben was confused about Avery, but that got resolved. I don't know when I will get to see the next season though.

There are different types of compromises. Compromises within a relationship are necessary, or two different people couldn't possibly live together. What I meant was, you can't make yourself love somebody just because he would make a more suitable partner. I agree that Noel would have been much better for Felicity, but her heart wouldn't be in it and I actually think that's worse than getting hurt by someone you really love. It's almost a betrayal of yourself. You either love someone or you don't. There's not much you can do about it. It's all a mystery. ;)

There are only 4 seasons of Felicity, so . . . I think you're seen 3.

I understood what you meant, and what I meant to say was that Felicity compromised a lot of herself to stay in this relationship with Ben. I don't know, judge for yourself: here's an episode guide (http://www.felicitypage.com) if you'd like to look ahead. Either way, she is a better person than I for sticking with him because he put her through a lot of grief that I wouldn't have stood for.

Ah, the mysteries of love :) Eternal, and always fun to debate :D

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
oh, Felicity was so bad after the first season! sorry, but i thought the show went downhill fast. much like Buffy and Dawson's Creek. :rolleyes:

That's the fate of all shows. But I didn't think Felicity and Buffy had gotten that bad. The quality was fluctuating and some seasons were better then others but I still love watching both. :)

Dawson's Creek never did anything for me.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I also noticed that he played in The Glass Menagerie (theater). That's my favorite play of all times. :) That was in 1997. I wonder which role he played.

He played Tom Wingfield in The Glass Menagerie. Here's an article from the Washington Times about it:

'Glass Menagerie': Fragile and Beautiful
By Nelson Pressley
The Washington Times
March 27 1997

When it comes to staging Tennessee Williams' plays, there is no safe middle ground. You can tell in a matter of moments whether the actors and designers have managed to get all the way inside Williams' singular lyrical world; either the show is being brought off with light poetry and firm authority or it isn't.

Director Tim Vasen's production of "The Glass Menagerie" at Baltimore's Center Stage puts you at ease right away. Tony Straiges' set, with its fire escapes, floating windows and spacious blue floor, is bathed in hazy blue-grays and faded golds by lighting designer Jeremy Stein. Mr. Stein also casts a blue glow around the edge of the entire theater, bringing the audience into the play's mists of memory.

The milieu is effective and so is the acting. As Tom Wingfield, within whose memory "The Glass Menagerie" takes place, Robert Sean Leonard speaks with the measured, weary cadences of a tired Southern poet. As the relentlessly meddling Amanda (Tom's mother), Pamela Payton-Wright fiddles and blathers with an insidious, tireless Old World graciousness that drives Tom nuts.

The play may be about Laura, Tom's mildly handicapped older sister, but the show belongs to Tom and Amanda for the first hour. Mr. Leonard and Miss Payton-Wright build the pressure expertly; Mr. Leonard's Tom slumps and broods as he fights off Amanda's unbearable scrutiny, and Miss Wright's ever-worried Amanda barely pauses for breath as she dominates every conversation without being transparently rude.

Life in the house is tense. Tom's and Laura's father fled long ago; Tom himself is ready to leave his dreary warehouse job to discover the world and find himself as a writer. Amanda wants Tom to help find someone to take care of odd, apparently helpless Laura before he goes, so Tom arranges for Jim O'Connor, a co-worker at the warehouse, to drop by for dinner one night.

This is the "gentleman caller" Amanda has long hoped for. She overdoes things, naturally (costume designer Tom Broecker puts her in a fancy, frilly old gown that makes Amanda look like a refugee from a wedding cake). Still, something happens between Laura and Jim when they are left alone; the cycle of hope and heartbreak in their long scene together is the essence not only of this play, but of much of the Williams canon.

As Jim, Jon Brent Curry has the Teflon charm of an All-American boy who refuses to believe he is going nowhere. Katie MacNichol's Laura is as fragile as the tiny glass figures she collects. Her quivers and stammerings are sometimes hard to take, but she and Mr. Curry create a palpable warmth together.

They also have a light touch with the Williams imagery (which compares the shy, misfigured Laura to a broken glass unicorn, and to blue roses). This is the strength of Mr. Vasen's production, which leaves us with one character howling angrily under a luscious full moon and a line of drying laundry - a Williams-like combination of dreamy fantasy and plain reality if ever there was one.

*** three stars

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Leo7
oh, Felicity was so bad after the first season! sorry, but i thought the show went downhill fast. much like Buffy and Dawson's Creek. :rolleyes:

Funny, I never really associated Felicity with Buffy or Dawson's Creek (the latter two, I don't like). Dawson's Creek was overrated when it debuted, so it never did anything for me.

But I liked Felicity. I guess because it came out when I was starting to seriously think about college and I really liked the romantic triangle that centered it. ::shrug::

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


There are only 4 seasons of Felicity, so . . . I think you're seen 3.

I understood what you meant, and what I meant to say was that Felicity compromised a lot of herself to stay in this relationship with Ben. I don't know, judge for yourself: here's an episode guide (http://www.felicitypage.com) if you'd like to look ahead. Either way, she is a better person than I for sticking with him because he put her through a lot of grief that I wouldn't have stood for.

Ah, the mysteries of love :) Eternal, and always fun to debate :D

I see. I didn't know made that many compromises. That's a gray area. I've know people (women especially) who couldn't be themselves in a relationship and gave up everything for their man, until they were unrecongnizable. Obviously that's not a healthy relationship. The other person consequently doesn't have to compromise at all and holds all the power.

I don't know about Felicity being a better person than you for "standing by her man". While I am a firm believer in true love, I'm not a fan of martyrdom. Like I said, there's a limit to how much you can take befor it's wise to run for your life. There's nothing noble about supporting an asshole and helping him to stay an asshole by being permissive.

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:15 AM
Thanks for the article TH! :) How I would've loved to see that.

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:18 AM
I'm back from dinner. :wavey:

Did I miss the whole Felicity talk? Oh, I've been wanting to talk about Felicity because I love the show. I just saw the finale couple of weeks ago (because I didn't have WB). I miss it already. I love the show and am very sad that it's over. But I can't stand having to be torn between Ben and Noel anymore though. Ben is a big jerk and I do want Felicity to end up with Noel. I do get what you are saying though, Layla. But I keep wonder if Felicity really loves Ben so much or just because she did some much for Ben that it's a little pity to let it go. I mean, that she just believe that she loves him that deep because he meant so much to her for so many years. Anyway, I think there's great writing for this show and characters are with some much depth it's really a great show. I won't compare it with Buffy or Dawson's.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't know about Felicity being a better person than you for "standing by her man". While I am a firm believer in true love, I'm not a fan of martyrdom. Like I said, there's a limit to how much you can take befor it's wise to run for your life. There's nothing noble about supporting an asshole and helping him to stay an asshole by being permissive.

Totally and completely agree with you on this. Of course, I think this means we're going to end up as spinsters. There aren't enough guys like Leo and hitman for us all ;)

You're welcome for the article. I would LOVE to see Robert Sean on Broadway but that's not going to happen any time soon. :( I suppose I'll have to settle for my worn copies of Swing Kings, Much Ado About Nothing, and The Age of Innocence.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Vera
I'm back from dinner. :wavey:

Did I miss the whole Felicity talk? Oh, I've been wanting to talk about Felicity because I love the show. I just saw the finale couple of weeks ago (because I didn't have WB). I miss it already. I love the show and am very sad that it's over. But I can't stand having to be torn between Ben and Noel anymore though. Ben is a big jerk and I do want Felicity to end up with Noel. I do get what you are saying though, Layla. But I keep wonder if Felicity really loves Ben so much or just because she did some much for Ben that it's a little pity to let it go. I mean, that she just believe that she loves him that deep because he meant so much to her for so many years. Anyway, I think there's great writing for this show and characters are with some much depth it's really a great show. I won't compare it with Buffy or Dawson's.

No you didn't miss it, Vera! Please talk away :) You bring up a good point--it seems she had an obsession with him in high school and now?

Very interesting.

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by Vera
I'm back from dinner. :wavey:

Did I miss the whole Felicity talk? Oh, I've been wanting to talk about Felicity because I love the show. I just saw the finale couple of weeks ago (because I didn't have WB). I miss it already. I love the show and am very sad that it's over. But I can't stand having to be torn between Ben and Noel anymore though. Ben is a big jerk and I do want Felicity to end up with Noel. I do get what you are saying though, Layla. But I keep wonder if Felicity really loves Ben so much or just because she did some much for Ben that it's a little pity to let it go. I mean, that she just believe that she loves him that deep because he meant so much to her for so many years. Anyway, I think there's great writing for this show and characters are with some much depth it's really a great show. I won't compare it with Buffy or Dawson's.

True, sometimes love disappears but you still cling on to its ghost for the very reasons you mentioned. Either way, I don't think she could ever love Noel as much. He just wasn't her true love. I supposed when you're torn between two men, the best option is the third one. :p

Leo7
09-26-2002, 02:25 AM
:wavey: i'm off to bed. i have a busy day ahead of me. talk to you girls tomorrow! ;)

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack


Totally and completely agree with you on this. Of course, I think this means we're going to end up as spinsters. There aren't enough guys like Leo and hitman for us all ;)


:eek: :eek: :eek: You might be right. ;) Well, at least that's IN these days.

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:28 AM
Good. Like I said, Felicity is a good show and I don't think it hasn't gone down in quality at all. I think JJ Abrams really did a good job because we as a viewer just swing so much between Ben and Noel like we can feel what Felicity feels.

Though Ben is Ben and he is never the sweet lovely guy like Noel. I do think Felicity is still very into that "Ben" he's been secretly in love for so long that she's overwhelmed with the wanting to be with him feeling.

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:28 AM
Good night Leo! :wavey: Sleep tight.

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:30 AM
Nite Leo.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:32 AM
Goodnight, Leo! I suppose you missed my reference to you, LOL ;)

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by Layla
I supposed when you're torn between two men, the best option is the third one. :p

If only we could be so lucky.

Layla
09-26-2002, 02:36 AM
LOL TH! :D

I'm going to bed too. It's almost 5 am and there's a lot of work to be done tomorrow. I enjoyed this Felicity talk very much. :)

I hope to hear about some action from Hong Kong tomorrow.

GOOD LUCK JUANQUI!!!

Night night! :wavey: Sweet dreams.

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:38 AM
BTW, Layla, I like Benny and June too. Another good Depp movie. I like Depp's movie because he is one guy that won't go for a bad script.

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:38 AM
Well, good night, Layla.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:39 AM
Goodnight, Layla! :wavey:

I always enjoy our discussions, especially those we are all around here at the same time for :)

Sweet dreams of Juan Carlos winning in Italy ;)

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:41 AM
Th, do you know if there's a site that actually give live score? I mean, that ATP site isn't really...

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:49 AM
No, I don't know of any live scoring sites :( Sorry . . .

Vera
09-26-2002, 02:56 AM
Oh well. Thanks anyway. I guess I'll just wait for the delayed score then.

Dissident
09-26-2002, 03:09 AM
I always miss the action! :sad:
Oh well, hi everyone... :p

Vera
09-26-2002, 03:13 AM
Hi Hitman:wavey:

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 03:22 AM
hitman, you've probably already come and gone . . .

oh, well, Hi anyway :wavey:

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 03:29 AM
A better chance to see our boys, or the same recycled "popular" players?

-----------------------------------------

ATP and Sportsbrand Announce Tennis Show Partnership
Revamped Weekly TV Magazine Debuts in 2003 - Mercedes-Benz is First Sponsor


ATP Properties, the commercial arm of the ATP, and Sportsbrand Media Group, the international sports marketing company, have reached a three-year agreement to produce and distribute on a worldwide basis a tennis magazine show to be called 'ATP Tennis'. The 26-minute weekly show commencing in January 2003 will cover highlights from ATP tournament action as well as off-court features and interviews adding color and human-interest perspectives to the glamorous and exciting world of professional tennis.

"We are extremely pleased to be partnering with the ATP for what will be an exciting and entertaining look at men's tennis. I am glad to find an opportunity to expand our involvement with tennis," said Jeff Chapman, founder of Sportsbrand and Tournament Director of the Dubai Duty Free-Dubai Open.

"Tennis is one of a select group of sports that reach premium audiences on a truly global basis. We are pleased to once again be able to provide that audience with a top of the line weekly magazine show," said Larry Scott, President of ATP Properties. He added that the ATP had already secured the first program sponsor, Mercedes-Benz.

"Having produced and distributed the TV coverage for the million-dollar Dubai Tennis Open for many years we have the experience and tennis knowledge to produce 'ATP Tennis'. The show is unique and will be highly valued by broadcasters, targeting key demographics and will also give brands a great opportunity to associate themselves with a premium product," said Anil Nair, Executive Chairman of Sportsbrand.

The official launch of the show will be at the Sportel Conference in Monte Carlo on September 30th where representatives of Sportsbrand and the ATP will be meeting with a number of potential broadcast partners.

* ATP is the governing body of the men's professional tennis circuit with 66 tournaments in 31 countries on 6 continents.

* The ATP produced its own TV Magazine show from 1990 through 2001

* Mercedes-Benz is the Official Automobile of the ATP

* Sportsbrand Media Group has offices in Melbourne, London, Dubai and Auckland. Other Sportsbrand properties include:

* Long term marketing contracts with the New Zealand Rugby Union

* Management contracts for the Dubai Tennis Open and Dubai Rugby Sevens.

* Internationally distributed magazine programs

(from ATPTennis.com)

Layla
09-26-2002, 09:15 AM
Morning! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/ylsurprise.gif :wavey:

http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/happybouncing.gif

Finally some good news. :D Juan Carlos won his match in two sets 6-2 6-4. And Moya also got his revenge, but he needed 3 sets for that. Safin, Lapentti and Chela also won so everything is alright so far. Still waiting for the results of Alex's match.

Thanks for this article TH! :) It sounds exciting. I hope this show makes it to Eurosport or any of the channels I get. It's certainly something to look forward too. :D

Layla
09-26-2002, 10:37 AM
Corretja is safely through as well. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

He defeated Chang 7-6 6-4. :)

Leo7
09-26-2002, 10:48 AM
:wavey: hello and goodbye!

Layla
09-26-2002, 10:51 AM
say hello and :wavey: goodbye ;)

Layla
09-26-2002, 11:03 AM
A slightly outdated joke. ;)

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 12:53 PM
Morning, all! :wavey:

I'm very happy that this rain delay didn't have the same effect as the one at the US Open--Juan Carlos won!! :bounce::bounce: He next plays Jeff Morrison, but apparently not until tomorrow? :confused: That's really stupid, but whatever.

Thanks for the cartoon, it's still funny :D

Mrs. B
09-26-2002, 12:56 PM
Hi, Folks!

Do you mind if i add one more, Layla?

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:03 PM
Some pictures from today's wins (of course, none of Juan Carlos :rolleyes: )

Carlos Moya:

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:03 PM
Alex Corretja (whoa, with a headband!!)

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 01:04 PM
Signing autographs:

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:14 PM
Hi TH! Hi Mrs. B! :wavey:

Of course I don't mind. LOL! That was a funny one. :D

I notice the fact that there were no pics of Juan Carlos too. :mad: Why do they keep doing this to us. :rolleyes:

Btw, Alex often wears a headband, at least these days. I guess his hair is too long. :p

Mrs. B
09-26-2002, 01:20 PM
:hearts: :hearts: :hearts: at Alex! That last one really shows off his patrician profile...que guapo!!!

Layla
09-26-2002, 01:24 PM
Patrician? What does that mean? Must be something beautiful. :hearts:

Mrs. B
09-26-2002, 02:21 PM
heehe, you pulling my leg, girl? You with the flawless English...
;)

i'll see u at the Hill tonight...any new features on stage?

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Not only did Mikhail Youzhny's father die, but there was a Russian actor who died in an avalanche that killed 100 people. I don't remember his name, but he was in "East West" which I loved.

:sad::sad::sad:

Hey, everyone, I wanted to revisit this post. My Russian/Soviet history professor passed around an article about this accident, and I finally learned his name--it's Sergei Bogdrov, Jr. He was a 30-year-old actor whose most notable appearance in a film (to the western world, at least) was in "East West" in 2000. He is missing and presumed dead in the avalanche/mudslide that killed 100 people.

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:35 PM
Here's the article from the New York Times

Rising Star Lost in Russia's Latest Disaster
By MICHAEL WINES


MOSCOW, Sept. 23--Nearly 6,000 feet up the Caucasus Mountains last Friday evening, Sergei Bodrov Jr., Russia's hottest young movie star, had wrapped up the second day of shooting on his latest film and was preparing to descend to the flatlands below.

Three cameramen and a driver, impatient for the weekend to start, were the first to leave in their minivan.

"They decided not to wait," Aleksei Ternovsky, the senior administrator for the film, said in a telephone interview today. "When they went down, the rest of the crew was already in their cars."

But the stragglers, led by the 30-year-old Mr. Bodrov, never made it to the bottom. Within minutes, an immense glacier, severed from the mountain near its 15,700-foot peak, roared through the nearby hillside village of Karmadon, burying much of it in up to 500 feet of ice and debris.

The disaster was the latest in a summer-long string of catastrophes that have all but turned Ivans into Jobs.

Rescuers have found 27 survivors and 8 bodies, few of them identified, and at least 95 people are missing.

But ordinary Russians had eyes only for Mr. Bodrov, who streaked to fame as the star of two shoot-em-ups that struck a deep chord in people made helpless by the lawlessness and chaos of the mid-1990's.

"Only a miracle could save him from the avalanche," screamed a headline on the front page of today's issue of the Moscow daily Gazeta. A color photograph of Mr. Bodrov, clad in a windbreaker, took up a quarter of the page.

Rescue workers were reported to have recovered the bodies of two other crew members by this evening, three days after the catastrophe. If Mr. Bodrov also died, as seems likely, it is unclear when his body might be found. Emergency officials were considering tonight whether to curtail or call off what has become a fruitless hunt for survivors.

Today Russian television broadcast new scenes of devastation from the landslide, which began when roughly one-third of the Maili glacier--three million tons of ice, by one estimate--split from a Caucasus peak and plowed 10 miles down a mountain gorge.

Videotape showed rescuers hacking with hand tools at huge ice blocks, and towns inundated by floods from melting ice and debris-blocked streams. An official of the federal emergencies ministry said the tongue of black mud and ice averaged 17 to 33 feet deep and 175 feet wide.

"It's a very complicated situation," the official said in an interview. "The 468 rescuers, both local and brought from Moscow, have everything necessary and are doing their utmost."

For Russia, this has been a summer to forget. About 70 people, many of them children, died in May after rebels bombed a military parade in Dagestan, also in southern Russia. Another 154 Russians--again, many of them young--died in a midair collision over Germany in July. And 119 perished last month after a grossly overloaded military helicopter crashed in Chechnya, apparently after being hit by a rebel missile.

Scientists speculated today that global warming might have set off this latest and most bizarre of the tragedies. But Russia's ceaseless conspiracy mill quickly produced speculation that Chechen militants had split the glacier apart — or that the film crew had caused the disaster by using explosives during filming.

In fact, the film was being shot thousands of feet below the glaciers. The ice and debris tumbled through a spot above the village of Karmadon where the crew had been packing equipment for transport.

If Mr. Bodrov was swept up in the landslide, Russia will have lost its most celebrated and versatile young actor, albeit not--in some critics' view--its most skillful. The son of an eminent Russian film director who now lives in the United States, Mr. Bodrov got his start on Russian television, as a talk show host, in the early 1990's.

He gained fame in 1996, starring in an antiwar film directed by his father, "Prisoner of the Caucasus" (called "Prisoner of the Mountains" when it was released in the United States the next year), which was nominated for an Academy Award.

But he became a matinee idol in 1997, when he played the lead role in "Brother," a middle-brow film about a naïve yet bloodless young man who follows a beloved older brother into the contract-killing business after fighting in Chechnya.

With its twin themes of enduring loyalty and vigilante justice, "Brother" became a sensation in a nation weary of the every-man-for-himself mantra of post-Soviet Russia. Mr. Bodrov became even more popular after the sequel, "Brother 2," in which his character mowed down American mafiosi to rescue a Chechnya war veteran in trouble.

In 2000, Mr. Bodrov played a leading role in a second Oscar-nominated film, "East-West," in which the French director, Regis Wargnier, told the story of Russian exiles who returned to the Soviet Union after World War II only to suffer Stalin's persecution.

Before embarking on his latest film, Mr. Bodrov returned to television as the host of the Russian version of the international game-show hit "Survivor."

"He's an actor who, perhaps, is not very talented, but he's quite exact in expressing the expectations of young Russia," Daniil B. Dondurei, chief editor of Moscow's Cinema Art magazine, said in an interview. "He's an ideal type. And that's more important than an actor's skill."

The newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda adapted an old Russian saying to sum up the actor's hold on the Russian psyche. "Putin is our president," the newspaper wrote, referring to President Vladimir V. Putin. "Sergei Bodrov is our brother."

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 02:39 PM
By the way, guys, you should read Nina's post about Youzhny's father in the Russian forum. It's pretty chilling. :eek:

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 04:16 PM
Safin, Ferrero advance to second round at Salem Open
September 26, 2002

HONG KONG (Ticker) - Six seeded players, led by No. 1 Marat Safin, emerged from a rain-delayed first round Thursday at the $400,000 Salem Open.

Safin, still looking for his first title of the year, routed Lars Burgsmuller of Germany, 6-2, 6-2. The 22-year-old Russian is third in the ATP Champions Race after making the final at the Australian Open and semifinals at Roland Garros and TMS Hamburg.

Last weekend, Safin won two singles matches to help his country defeat Argentina in the Davis Cup semifinals. He was a quarterfinalist the week before at Tashkent.

Second seed Juan Carlos Ferrero of Spain completed his first-round encounter with Austrian Stefan Koubek, 6-2, 6-4. Ferrero, the winner of the Tennis Masters Series Monte Carlo, made his Hong Kong debut last year and lost to Rainer Schuettler in the quarterfinals.

No. 3 Carlos Moya got past American Jan-Michael Gambill, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3. The Spaniard won four of his 11 ATP titles this year. He also was a finalist in Monte Carlo.

Wild card and three-time Hong Kong winner Michael Chang, playing here for the 12th straight year, fell to fourth seed Alex Corretja of Spain, 7-6, 6-4.

Making his debut here, Corretja has not played since a disappointing third-round exit from the U.S. Open last month. He had played well heading to the year's final Grand Slam, winning titles at Gstaad and Kitzbuehel before reaching the quarterfinals at Washington D.C. and the semifinals at Long Island.

Fifth seed Juan Ignacio Chela of Argentina defeated Magnus Norman of Sweden, 6-3, 6-4, and No. 7 Nicolas Lapentti of Ecuador topped Agustin Calleri, 7-5, 6-2, but No. 8 Paradorn Srichaphan fell to American Taylor Dent, 6-4, 0-6, 7-5.

Dent, making his first appearance at this event, won the Newporter Challenger and reached the third round of successive Tennis Masters Series events in Toronto and Cincinnati.

Other unseeded winners were Jonas Bjorkman of Sweden, American qualifier Jeff Morrison, Jerome Golmard of France, Australian Wayne Arthurs, Felipe Lopez of Spain and France's Anthony Dupuis.

Chloe le Bopper
09-26-2002, 05:39 PM
I thought of a cute April Fools joke :D

To bad it isn't April for quite some time :eek:

What would you do if you came in here on April 1th, and there was no big thread anymore ? :D

Chloe le Bopper
09-26-2002, 05:40 PM
NB - I would never actually do that :o It would be pointless and selfish.

But in theory ... its a little funny? :D

Layla
09-26-2002, 06:33 PM
Rebecca! :eek: Are you trying to give me a heartattack? :eek:

Layla
09-26-2002, 06:37 PM
TH, thank you for that article. So many catastrophes they had to endure this year. I hope their Davis Cup victory brought them some joy, even if for a brief moment. And that story about Mikhail's father is just horrendous. :eek: I hope they catch the bastard. :mad:

Layla
09-26-2002, 06:40 PM
From Eurosport:


Three times champion Michael Chang disappointed his large local following when he lost 7-6 6-4 to Alex Corretja in the opening round of the Hong Kong Open on Thursday, his final appearance at the $400,000 tournament.

"This is the last time I will be playing in Hong Kong. I have wonderful memories of this place," said Chang, 30, who has said that he will probably retire some time next year.

But it was a good day for the top four seeds with Russian Marat Safin along with Spaniards Juan Carlos Ferrero, Carlos Moya and Corretja all moving safely through to the second round on a rain-free day.

Top seed Safin, ranked fourth in the world, disposed of Germany's Lars Burgsmuller 6-2 6-2 and will meet Spain's Feliciano Lopez in the next round.

Second seeded Ferrero's match against Austrian Stefan Koubek, which had been interrupted because of rain for two days, finally ended on Thursday.

Leading 6-2 2-3, the world number six needed just 20 minutes to finish off Koubek, winning the second set 6-4.
"It has been hard sitting in the locker room for the past two days and it was a huge relief to play at last. It felt good to swing the racket again," said Ferrero, who will meet American qualifier Jeff Morrison in the next round.

Moya, seeded third, dispatched American Jan-Michael Gambill 6-4 3-6 6-3 and will face Australian Wayne Arthurs in the second round.

Thai Paradorn Srichaphan was the only seed to be ousted in the first round, the eighth seed beaten 6-4 0-6 7-5 by American Taylor Dent.

Chloe le Bopper
09-26-2002, 07:28 PM
Hey - totally unrelated stuff here, but I need to vent.

I have a pysch class that I haven't been attending. I have attended the same class, under a different section. I am caught up, have all the notes, have done the reading etc.

So I emailed my prof just to check what date the midterm was. I assumed both classes would have the same general system, but apparently not.

LOOK at the response that I received:



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I made it explicitly clear in class that one could not simply register for my class and
attend someone else's. They are not interchangible. If you are in my class, you have
apparently missed all my lectures or you would have heard me repeatedly advise
against exactly this mistake. The date of my midterm is being announced in my
class. We are NOT moving lockstep with whatever section you are attending, nor do
you have any basis to assume this. My class includes seminar sections. I assume
you have missed all of those also? If you had checked with the instructor whose
class you are attending, I'm sure he would have confirmed all of this. This university
is not configured for you to register for one course and then attend another. Please
learn from this.
Your best bet is to drop my section immediately and throw yourself on his
mercy to see if you can add his class at this late date. I would hope that you confine
blunders of this type to your first semester. I would have sworn that the department
had enough safeguards built into the system to preclude this kind of situation.
Ironically, someone should commend you - you have managed to miss all of the
markers and warnings we had in place to save you this kind of hassle and
embarrassment.
HD
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Layla
09-26-2002, 07:47 PM
Ouch, this response sounds a bit harsh and cynical. :( But I have to admit, I don't completely understand the situation. Why did you attend a different class? How different were they? Can you still take the test and pass or was that a definite no?

Chloe le Bopper
09-26-2002, 08:00 PM
Well what happened is that I've never been to his lecture period. My attendance at the other lecture period has been weak.

I get notes off a freind when I miss, and do the readings.

However I grew confused when the readings that I noted down differed from those that they were required to do. Which led to be emailing him ;)

I don't question wether or not I deserved to be told to bugger off, it was the manner in which he did it.

He doesn't know who I am. I could be some weak first year student, who is depressed, and curled up in a ball thinking her university life is over after reading that :p

I don't think they should be permitted to talk down to students in such a manner. There was no reason that he could not have just said "I dont help people who dont come to MY class". It is that simple.

No need to attempt to totally degrade a person.

But that's fine. Beleive it or not I actually replied to him.

Chloe le Bopper
09-26-2002, 08:03 PM
I get the feeling that my class only has one midterm, unlike the other class which has two.

Which would mean that my midterm isn't for a few weeks.

Regardless of when it is, not only will I pass it, I will do well on it.

Layla
09-26-2002, 08:22 PM
I agree, there was no need to respond that way. I don't respect teachers like that. But I'm sort of used to professors looking down on students and treating them like imbecils. It's an unfortunate reality, especially in a country like Slovenia, where they are not payed all that well and it adds to their frustration. If they can make someone else feel inferior, it makes them feel better about themselves. :rolleyes: :mad:

So what did you say to him? :p

Vera
09-26-2002, 08:42 PM
To cheer things up here for everyone, a lovely picture of Juanqui, with his adorable victory smile, in Salem Open.

Leo7
09-26-2002, 08:46 PM
great pic! thanks you Vera! ;)

Leo7
09-26-2002, 08:48 PM
great location, Vera! ;)

Layla
09-26-2002, 08:51 PM
Thanks for the pic, Vera! :) He's adorable. His hair is so blond. :eek: Did he die it again or is it just the light reflected in it? This might be the color he was looking for in the first place. :p I think he also cut it.

Leo7
09-26-2002, 09:01 PM
yah, i like it! :D

Layla
09-26-2002, 09:02 PM
Me too. Very much so. :D

Leo7
09-26-2002, 09:13 PM
Clijsters rolls on in Leipzig
September 26, 2002

Leipzig, Germany (Sports Network) - Defending champion Kim Clijsters breezed through her second-round match at the $585,000 Sparkassen Cup tennis event on Thursday.

The fourth-seeded Belgian, who was runner-up to the high-flying Serena Williams in last week's Princess Cup, wasted little time with Nadia Petrova, disposing of her Russian foe, 6-4, 6-2.

Clijsters defeated Magdalena Maleeva to claim last year's title.

Seventh-seeded Silvia Farina Elia of Italy was not as fortunate though, as she fell to wild card Barbara Rittner of Germany. Rittner will next play Clijsters in the quarterfinals.

Russia's Anastasia Myskina, the sixth seed, moved on with a hard-fought three- set victory over Czech Kveta Hrdlickova, 6-4, 3-6, 6-1. Next up for Myskina will be American Meghann Shaughnessy.

Slovakian Janette Husarova was also a winner, rallying to defeat American Alexandra Stevenson, 1-6, 7-6 (7-2), 7-6 (8-6). Awaiting Huarova in the quarters will be the red-hot Williams, who is seeded first at this week's event.

The 2002 Leipzig champion will pocket $93,000.

GO KIMMY! WIN IT AGAIN! :bounce:

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Layla
From Eurosport:
"It has been hard sitting in the locker room for the past two days and it was a huge relief to play at last. It felt good to swing the racket again," said Ferrero, who will meet American qualifier Jeff Morrison in the next round.


And it will be good to watch him swing a racquet, as well :)

Layla
09-26-2002, 09:17 PM
Yeah, congrats Kimmy! :bounce: I watched that match on Eurosport. :D

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Thanks for the pic, Vera! :) He's adorable. His hair is so blond. :eek: Did he die it again or is it just the light reflected in it? This might be the color he was looking for in the first place. :p I think he also cut it.

I think he dyed it again, too. He's so cute when he wins :hearts:

Where did you find this, Vera?

Leo7
09-26-2002, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Yeah, congrats Kimmy! :bounce: I watched that match on Eurosport. :D

how did Nadia Petrova play?

Vera
09-26-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I think he dyed it again, too. He's so cute when he wins :hearts:

Where did you find this, Vera?

I think he dyes his hair every week, or maybe every tournament, cos it always seems different. But I really love his hair.

I found this in Yahoo. Well, I'm used to them not posting everything in the Photo Gallery, and also impatient to flip thru them sometimes, so I usually just put a search in the gallery to see if JC's pic shows up. While, searching for photos, also found an article, seems like an interview before the beginning of this tournament. He talked about the Race. I guess we all know that he wants to go to Shanghai, it's nice though to hear from him mentioning it again, that he's really determine to make it there. And very strange that they called him Juan Ferrero...

Here you go, guys.

Spain's Juan Ferrero keen to earn berth in Masters Cup
Mon Sep 23,10:51 AM ET

HONG KONG - World No. 6 Juan Carlos Ferrero of Spain said Monday he is keen to win the U.S. $400,000 ATP Salem Hong Kong Open, as he has set his eyes on booking a berth in the lucrative Masters Cup in Shanghai in November.

Ferrero, seeded second, is currently joint-5th in the ATP Champions Race with compatriot Carlos Moya, who is also playing in Hong Kong.

He knows a good result in Hong Kong will boost his chances of winning one of the six berths left in the eight-player U.S. dlrs 3.7 million Shanghai event.

"A good result here will help me a lot. I have been training hard for Hong Kong and I feel confident. I want to win here," said the 22-year-old Ferrero.

He will play his first-round match in the Salem Open on Tuesday against Austrian Stefan Koubek.

Australian Lleyton Hewitt and American Andre Agassi are the only two players to have made certain of their places in Shanghai for the November 12-17 tournament.

Two other players in the running are Moya and Russian player Marat Safin.

World No. 4 Safin, the top seed in Hong Kong, will arrive here Tuesday after leading his country to victory over Argentina in the Davis Cup world group semifinal.

Layla
09-26-2002, 09:33 PM
She played well actually. The match was tighter than it looks on the scoreboard, especially the second set, where she had break points on several of Kimmy's service games. Unfortunately for her, she had lapses of concentration and would play a really terrible service game from time to time, just enough for Kimmy to take the lead. She served very well though. (Petrova that is). Kimmy was great though, her usual agressive self. She had lapses too but she has a lot more energy now. And another difference was quite noticeable. When Kimmy had terrible luck when Petrova's ball dropped over the net, she didn't dwell on it and played a terrific point. But when Nadia had a bad call on her service that was supposed to be an ace, she proceeded to lose the game and end it with a double fault. She let it get to her.

Hope this helps. :)

Layla
09-26-2002, 09:37 PM
Thanks for the article TH. I want him to win here too. :D

You might be right about the hair lol. :)

Leo7
09-26-2002, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Layla
She played well actually. The match was tighter than it looks on the scoreboard, especially the second set, where she had break points on several of Kimmy's service games. Unfortunately for her, she had lapses of concentration and would play a really terrible service game from time to time, just enough for Kimmy to take the lead. She served very well though. (Petrova that is). Kimmy was great though, her usual agressive self. She had lapses too but she has a lot more energy now. And another difference was quite noticeable. When Kimmy had terrible luck when Petrova's ball dropped over the net, she didn't dwell on it and played a terrific point. But when Nadia had a bad call on her service that was supposed to be an ace, she proceeded to lose the game and end it with a double fault. She let it get to her.

Hope this helps. :)

thanks for the update. Nadia is very talented. she won 3 matches earlier this year in Gold Coast, and really challenged Venus. the score was something like 7-5, 6-5 RET. for Vee. but she's been out with the damn injury ever since and i think made her comeback this week! Petrova is another one of the MANY talented Russians with great potential. :)

speaking of Russians, both Lina K and Svetlana K advanced today in Bali! :bounce:

Layla
09-26-2002, 09:48 PM
She didn't seem hampered by her injury. You really like your Russians don't you. :) ;)

Well, I'm going to bed. The clock has just struck midnight. It's pumpkin time. :p

Night night! :wavey: Sweet dreams! :)

As for myself, I hope to wake up tomorrow to some good news again, as Juanqui's match will have been finished by then. :D

Leo7
09-26-2002, 10:00 PM
:wavey: good night darling!

yes, i love my Russians! :D :hearts: Lina :hearts: Vera :hearts: Bovina :hearts: Petrova :hearts: Kuznetsova :hearts: Sharapova

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 10:14 PM
Nighty-night, Layla! I'm sure you'll wake up to good news. Jeff Morrison has nothing on Juan Carlos :D

TennisHack
09-26-2002, 10:17 PM
Becca,

I understand that he was angry with you, but that's really not the right response to give on his part. What a jerk :rolleyes: Why didn't you just register for the section you are taking?

There is a visiting prof at my school who got involved in an email battle between some students, calling them "sophomoric" and whatnot. Basically, she looked like an idiot and we wondered just how old she was to decide that we couldn't fight our own battles.

Good luck with it all.

Chloe le Bopper
09-26-2002, 11:37 PM
It is all good now Tennishack.

I actually replied to him - and this is a little odd, but I pointed out that even though I thought he had gone overboard, that I needed to hear it.

So even though I think he was being a total bastard - I mean, he doesn't know who he is talking to - that it was something that i had to hear.

I've underachieved for pretty much ever :o I'm very very lazy.

So anyhow, he replied to my reply and was a little nicer.

I don't beleive he was expecting to hear back from me, and the thankyou that I gave surely caught him off guard.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
I don't beleive he was expecting to hear back from me, and the thankyou that I gave surely caught him off guard.

LOL, I like doing that to people who are really obnoxious :o

Good to know everything's cool, tho :)

Leo7
09-27-2002, 01:54 AM
:wavey: good night!

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 02:21 AM
Goodnight, Leo! :wavey: Ya little fruitcake ;)

Dissident
09-27-2002, 02:47 AM
Jesus, that was very harsh from the guy.
Im glad you took the hit and learned something, though, Becca. :p
And congrats on hitting him on the rise. ;)

Scotso
09-27-2002, 04:59 AM
What a jerk, Becs. We should have him offed.

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 05:43 AM
lol @ hitman. All my tennis watching has taught me to take things on the rise :D hmmm.... ;)


Scott - I'm not sure offing him will help my case ;)

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:30 AM
Morning everyone! :wavey: http://216.40.241.68/contrib/A_smile_4u/Thumbs%20Up.gif

Turns out I did wake up to good news. :)

JUANQUI WON!!!! He's in the quarters now. :D One more match today and he could be in the semis.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Carlos Moya also won :) but sadly Alex, Safin and Nicolas all lost. :sad: I'm shocked at all those losses. :eek:

Rebecca, I'm glad you resolved your situation to a degree. LOL @ catching him off-guard. :) But he was still a jerk to you. :mad:

Gotta go back to work now. Talk to you later. http://216.40.241.68/contrib/A_smile_4u/Peace.gif

Leo7
09-27-2002, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Goodnight, Leo! :wavey: Ya little fruitcake ;)

i like cake :lick:

:wavey:

Leo7
09-27-2002, 10:37 AM
Juanqui :bounce: Carlos :bounce:

Alex :sad:

Layla
09-27-2002, 12:03 PM
Hi Leo! :wavey:

SEMI-FINALS, HERE WE COME!!! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif

I think a round of applause is in order. http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/applaudit.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/applaudit.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/applaudit.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/marcelpoire.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/marcelpoire.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/marcelpoire.gif

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 12:32 PM
LMAO at Leo! ;)

Juan Carlos won, two matches and into the semis :D:D:D:D I'm so very very happy.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 02:10 PM
These fans have the right idea!!

Layla
09-27-2002, 02:30 PM
LMAO! Yes they do. :D Isn't that what we've been saying all along? ;)

VAMOS JUAN CARLOS!!! :bounce:

He takes on Golmard in the semi-finals. Their head-to-head is 1-1, but both matches took place in 2000.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 02:34 PM
I think he can kick Golmard's ass. It's not a second round match :D

Head-to-head:
2000 Roland Garros, Clay, R128
Ferrero 6-4, 6-3, 6-2

2000 London, Hard, R32
Golmard 6-2, 6-2

Vamos, dahling!! Zhelayu udachi!! ;)

Layla
09-27-2002, 02:38 PM
Errr, what does udachi mean? :confused:

Do you think Juanqui is whistling in that pic? ;)

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:18 PM
Zhelayu udachi--Good luck. :)

I think he was sighing--you know, that kind of sighing where you exhale really hard. Probably thinking, "Okay, this set is in my pocket but I must be patient."

I can't believe how many people are on the board today! It's usually a ghosttown but lately there have been tons of people. Nobody posts, though. Very strange http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/confused2.gif

LET'S HEAR IT FOR MR. T!!! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/ticking.gif

ILR
09-27-2002, 04:19 PM
I hate it when people do that.Loads of people register and become members yet none of them post.There were 123 people online before :eek:

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:20 PM
By the way, it's really hard to transliterate "udachi" because it actually sounds like "oo-dach-<long e>" So forgive me if I don't write it correctly :o

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:21 PM
Hi, ILR :wavey: I still haven't caught up to you, posts-wise. I guess that's a good thing ;)

ILR
09-27-2002, 04:22 PM
hmmmm are you trying to say something? ;)

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:23 PM
Back to the subject of Juanqui--am I the only one who finds this look unattractive? I mean, his hair is sort of patchy now, and he has facial hair (not a big fan of facial hair on many guys) and, maybe it's the quality of the pcitures, but he's looking a bit washed out.

He's still attractive, but I suppose the fact that we know how hot he can be, and is for months at a time, that makes this new look seem not so great.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
hmmmm are you trying to say something? ;)

:o

Layla
09-27-2002, 04:25 PM
Lol, Mr. T! :D

You probably haven't heard that the WTAworld will be down for 48 hours. Well, actually it's only 24 now, because that announcement was yesterday. They are upgrading their server. Most of the people post in the WTA forum or in non-tennis.

It's a shame the ATPworld is such a ghosttown. :( Even though I should be happy about that because it's too addictive and it distracts me when I should be working. ;)

Btw, a baught a new keyboard today. I was fed up with the one I got with my new computer (3 months ago). It was the worst and cheapest kind and the keys were so hard. I type will 10 fingers, so it's really important for me to have a soft keyboard. I found one that was really cheap but really soft, so I'm more than happy. :D I just hope it lasts.

ILR
09-27-2002, 04:26 PM
that Im a complete addict with no life? :eek:

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:27 PM
Ahh, that explains it, then. I should go see the final score for Dani's match. She wasn't doing so great at the beginning.

Typing is like handwriting now, so I agree, it's very important to have the right kind of keyboard. Can you use those ones that are supposed to be "natural"? You know, the ones that are curved and sort of broken in half? I can't stand those. I learned how to type on a typewriter (whoa!) so I'm used to the regular kinds of keyboards.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
that Im a complete addict with no life? :eek:

Oh, you have more of a life than me. I just missed a weekend, that's all ;)

Layla
09-27-2002, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Back to the subject of Juanqui--am I the only one who finds this look unattractive? I mean, his hair is sort of patchy now, and he has facial hair (not a big fan of facial hair on many guys) and, maybe it's the quality of the pcitures, but he's looking a bit washed out.

He's still attractive, but I suppose the fact that we know how hot he can be, and is for months at a time, that makes this new look seem not so great.

I don't think he looks washed out. The quality of the pics is not great. I don't trust pics when Juanqui is concerned. I liked him in the first pic I saw, the one that Vera posted. But now it seems to me that his hair is a bit too short. Still, I think I like the color, but I would have to see more of it before I decide. Seeing him live would help. :p And I don't mind a bit of facial hair on my players, so I have no problem with that.

ILR
09-27-2002, 04:31 PM
lol how do you know that I have more of a life then you? ;)

my friend has one of those keyboards that are broken up and they really annoy me!Theyre quite hard to type on.The worst thing is the ones at school,the one I always go on has a broken space bar and I have to go back cozialwaysendupwithwordslikethis!(sorry bout that :p)

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I don't think he looks washed out. The quality of the pics is not great. I don't trust pics when Juanqui is concerned. I liked him in the first pic I saw, the one that Vera posted. But now it seems to me that his hair is a bit too short. Still, I think I like the color, but I would have to see more of it before I decide. Seeing him live would help. :p And I don't mind a bit of facial hair on my players, so I have no problem with that.

Yes, I fogot to mention the length of his hair is a bit too short. I figured most of it was my own personal likes and dislikes :o

And of course he'll look very, very attractive when he holds up the winner's trophy :D I hope he can do it, I'd really love it if he won another title.

Layla
09-27-2002, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Ahh, that explains it, then. I should go see the final score for Dani's match. She wasn't doing so great at the beginning.

Typing is like handwriting now, so I agree, it's very important to have the right kind of keyboard. Can you use those ones that are supposed to be "natural"? You know, the ones that are curved and sort of broken in half? I can't stand those. I learned how to type on a typewriter (whoa!) so I'm used to the regular kinds of keyboards.

Juju won 6-4 7-5. And I'm disappointed that the one match Eurosport is playing (they only get to show one match per day) is the Serena/Husarova match. I would much rather see Henin/Hantuchova and especially Kimmy's match that is to follow. :(

No, I can't type on those. They're hideous. I don't see why those whould be natural.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
lol how do you know that I have more of a life then you? ;)


Because YOU don't read the board between classes like I do! :o


my friend has one of those keyboards that are broken up and they really annoy me!Theyre quite hard to type on.The worst thing is the ones at school,the one I always go on has a broken space bar and I have to go back cozialwaysendupwithwordslikethis!(sorry bout that :p)

Yeah, school computers suck. There's always something wrong with them. :rolleyes: Those keyboards are really annoying--"natural" my ass. I never type like that, or had the inclination to!

ILR
09-27-2002, 04:40 PM
yeh and at school,the internet is soooooooo slow.honestly,its unbelievable.

well I am sad coz I do read the board during IT classes either because theyre boring or I have nothing to do,usually because the printer has broken or something.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Juju won 6-4 7-5. And I'm disappointed that the one match Eurosport is playing (they only get to show one match per day) is the Serena/Husarova match. I would much rather see Henin/Hantuchova and especially Kimmy's match that is to follow. :(

Dani :sad: But I'm glad she made it to the quarters, she is very consistent in tournament play :)

Pfffffffffffft at Serena :rolleyes: I wish someone would defeat her. It's like she has this stranglehold on the tour and it's rather depressing. Not even her sister can defeat her anymore! :eek:

Layla
09-27-2002, 04:52 PM
It's very depressing. And what's even more depressing is the look on her mother's face when she wins. Utter and complete boredom. I've seen it so many times now. She doesn't even crack a smile. When your own mother is bored watching you win, what does that tell you. :rolleyes:

Now let's cheer for Kimmy! GO KIMMY!!! :bounce:

Btw, Mrs. B has song her song, it's really great. You should go listen to her. :)

Layla
09-27-2002, 05:45 PM
Good news! :D

Kimmy won 6-1 6-0!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: What a scoreline! I suppose she was on fire! :D

Way to go Kimmy! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Vera
09-27-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Back to the subject of Juanqui--am I the only one who finds this look unattractive? I mean, his hair is sort of patchy now, and he has facial hair (not a big fan of facial hair on many guys) and, maybe it's the quality of the pcitures, but he's looking a bit washed out.

He's still attractive, but I suppose the fact that we know how hot he can be, and is for months at a time, that makes this new look seem not so great.

His hair looks lighter and lighter everyday, is it because HongKong is getting more and more sunny everyday? I also think his face is looking skinnier nowadays, so I do agree that he looks a little washed out. But, as long as his game looks sharp, I'm happy.

BTW, morning guys, or good afternoon and good evening to some of you.

Layla
09-27-2002, 06:11 PM
I'll take good evening thanks. ;) :wavey:

You think his face looks skinnier? That's not good. :(

Vera
09-27-2002, 06:19 PM
:wavey:

Yes. I think he looks skinny this year, more so then last year. Maybe he is losing some baby fat on the face, no? Well, or maybe just because his washed out look makes him look even more skinny then before, I don't know.

Layla
09-27-2002, 06:32 PM
Guys, check out this site.

http://jcferrero.blogspot.com

The girl who runs The Ferrero Chaser is in Hong Kong and she posted some brief observations on a temporary site. This is a pic she found in a magazine.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Good news! :D

Kimmy won 6-1 6-0!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: What a scoreline! I suppose she was on fire! :D

Way to go Kimmy! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

KIMMY KICKS ASS!! She owns this event :D

She overcame Venus earlier this year, hopefully she can overcome Serena!!

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Guys, check out this site.

http://jcferrero.blogspot.com

The girl who runs The Ferrero Chaser is in Hong Kong and she posted some brief observations on a temporary site. This is a pic she found in a magazine.

He looks like Zhenya in that picture (in the face). Scary :eek:

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Guys, check out this site.

http://jcferrero.blogspot.com

The girl who runs The Ferrero Chaser is in Hong Kong and she posted some brief observations on a temporary site. This is a pic she found in a magazine.

He looks like Zhenya in that picture (in the face). Scary :eek:

And he's hitting my favorite shot :D

Layla
09-27-2002, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


He looks like Zhenya in that picture (in the face). Scary :eek:

:eek: You think so? Perhaps you're right. He might look a little bit like him. His hair is way too short. But I like the way his t-shirt exposed his shoulder. :drool: Sorry, my hormones are kicking in again. :D

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 07:57 PM
Am I the only one who thought he was hottest at Barcelona 2000? :D

I'm not a fan of the yellow blond really, I'm with tennishack on this on.

Regardless, if he dyed it green and started painting his face like a clown, i would still be here - but it is something to talk about lol ;)

From seeing him in Montreal last year, to Toronto and the US Open this year, he doesn't look any skinnier to me.

I didn't note it at the time at least.

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:01 PM
Great news for me!!!

Eurosport will be showing one of the semi-final matches tomorrow and a replay of Sunday's final! :D I had no idea. They weren't scheduled to show anything in October. So there is hope I will see how him play (and make a more informed judgment of how he looks! :p)

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Layla
:eek: You think so? Perhaps you're right. He might look a little bit like him. His hair is way too short.

His hair, and the angle from which the picture was taken makes him look like Zhenya. I mean, I think Zhenya's adorable, but he's also way older than Juan Carlos ;) But that's the way Zhenya wears his hair.

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:11 PM
Well, that's good, maybe it's the facial hair...

I went to check out that local HK paper thing and see a disturbing headline (but can't read the detail cos not a subscriber) http://sport.scmp.com/sportnews/index.html. Anyway, I don't even know if I should bring it up here bcos it's like we unspokenly agree to not talk about that. But those stupid reporters. I just hope that he can laugh it off and not got distracted. He is in good form right now and need to focus on the game. Those stupid reporters...:fiery:

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Am I the only one who thought he was hottest at Barcelona 2000? :D

I'm not a fan of the yellow blond really, I'm with tennishack on this on.

Regardless, if he dyed it green and started painting his face like a clown, i would still be here - but it is something to talk about lol ;)

From seeing him in Montreal last year, to Toronto and the US Open this year, he doesn't look any skinnier to me.

I didn't note it at the time at least.

He was really good-looking most of 2000, especially when he won the Davis Cup :hearts:

Yellow blonde makes him look sallow. I hate to admit it, but even the glowing color he had first round USO was better than this in-between shade! But of course he looks best natural or with highlights.

See, you aren't the only one with hormones, Layla :D

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Great news for me!!!

Eurosport will be showing one of the semi-final matches tomorrow and a replay of Sunday's final! :D I had no idea. They weren't scheduled to show anything in October. So there is hope I will see how him play (and make a more informed judgment of how he looks! :p)

I am INSANELY jealous. I want a full report!!

My good news is I finally broke 1,000 hits on my website today. I'm very pleased :) especially considering it's only been up since Wimbledon.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:15 PM
Vera, I can't open your link. What did it say?!

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Great news for me!!!

Eurosport will be showing one of the semi-final matches tomorrow and a replay of Sunday's final! :D I had no idea. They weren't scheduled to show anything in October. So there is hope I will see how him play (and make a more informed judgment of how he looks! :p)

Congrats Layla!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: See, we know that you won't be seeing the last of him on TV this year after USO. Enjoy that and I hope you will see him on both matches on sat and sun. Cheer him hard for us.

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:19 PM
Here's the heading:
Ferrero has all answers on court, but confounded off it.

He might have breezed through two matches and four sets on centre court yesterday. But Juan Carlos Ferrero was stumped in the interview room at the post-match press conference when a Chinese reporter asked him how it felt to be one of the most desirable men in the world - as polled in a Taiwanese magazine for gays.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:24 PM
Oh, my God :rolleyes:

I hope he had the same reaction that I did. Or maybe shock and surprise?

Either way, I don't think it was detrimental or anything.

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack


I am INSANELY jealous. I want a full report!!

My good news is I finally broke 1,000 hits on my website today. I'm very pleased :) especially considering it's only been up since Wimbledon.

IF I get to see him, you will be getting a full report, of course. I don't want to get over-excited. It might be Moya they show (not that that would be bad either).

Wow, congrats! That is pretty impressive. See, I told you you were doing a great job! :) I love your site.

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:28 PM
Good then. He'll probably laugh it off. Just hope that he's not homophobic, then he will be quite disturbed...

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Wow, congrats! That is pretty impressive. See, I told you you were doing a great job! :) I love your site.

Thanks for visiting me so often :) I do my best.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Just hope that he's not homophobic, then he will be quite disturbed...

I would HOPE he's not homophobic!! That's a very unattractive trait. :eek:

Seriously, though, I think it probably shocked him (I mean, I can't imagine that it's something he thinks about very often) but I don't think it had any greater effect than that.

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Oh, my God :rolleyes:

I hope he had the same reaction that I did. Or maybe shock and surprise?

Either way, I don't think it was detrimental or anything.

I don't think it was detrimental either. But that was a pretty bizarre headline. Confounded off court? That sounds a bit overblown. I wonder what his reaction was. That is a pretty common question though. Almost all (male) stars get asked that question eventually. I wonder what they meant by stumped.

Anyway, if he doesn't play well tomorrow, I'll blame those reporters for distracting him :fiery: and I'll hunt them down.

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:33 PM
I hope he's not homophobic either! :eek: That would be terrible.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:45 PM
Whoa, we really need to turn this conversation around . . . what an awful topic :(

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Layla


I don't think it was detrimental either. But that was a pretty bizarre headline. Confounded off court? That sounds a bit overblown. I wonder what his reaction was. That is a pretty common question though. Almost all (male) stars get asked that question eventually. I wonder what they meant by stumped.

Anyway, if he doesn't play well tomorrow, I'll blame those reporters for distracting him :fiery: and I'll hunt them down.

Is it really that common? Well, just that I've never read interviews that player got asked question like that, but then, I don't really read other players interview that often. So...

Oh, sorry for bring that homophobic thing up. I'm sure he's not. He is always described as a very relaxed individual, I'm sure he wouldn't care too much about this kind of thing.

Anyway, I think it's true though all beautiful men got accused of being gay at times... Only if they have a poll to ask the female population have much he got adored then you realise that it's not a gay thing. But knowing the media, they just like to stink ppl by making thing sounds extreme.

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:49 PM
Yes we do. So Marcelo Rios defeated Sanchez in the 3rd set tie-break. :eek: I don't really like him, but I predicted him to win and I'm just happy for the points.

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:49 PM
Oh, sorry again for bring this up.

Vera
09-27-2002, 08:53 PM
My page is turning so very slowly. I wonder if it's a server problem or maybe my Internet connection. Do you guys have this problem, that it takes a long bit to open a page here?

Layla
09-27-2002, 08:53 PM
No don't appologize Vera. It's a legitimate topic, it's just a disturbing thought. Anyway, I meant that movie stars get asked that question, I've never heard of any tennis player being asked about his sex-appeal at a post-match press-conference. :eek:

But on a lighter note, here's another little article from the ATPsite.

TOURNAMENT TALES
IN HONG KONG JUAN CARLOS FERRERO learnt the art of Tai Chi with a sword. A Thai Chi master taught the Spanish star some basics of the art during the Salem Open, and Ferrero said: ìIt was a great cultural experience.îÖFerrero also joined his fellow countrymen ALEX CORRETJA and CARLOS MOYA at the opening ceremony of the Salem Open, during which the ATP stars painted eyes on dancing dragons for a sign of good luck.

ILR
09-27-2002, 08:55 PM
yes Vera it was taking ages but now it seems to have sorted out :)

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 08:56 PM
Vera, I am also having problems with the page. The server is getting overloaded, I guess.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 09:00 PM
Mmm, Juan Carlos with a sword :drool:

Vera
09-27-2002, 09:01 PM
JC playing Tai Chi, I bet he's as graceful as he plays tennis.

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 09:08 PM
If someone told me I was a sex symbol for anyone I think I'd be a little stumped :p

Regardless of wether or not they were the same sex as me :p

What is he supposed to say "well yes, this is expected, seeing as I'm a huge stud. Everyone I meet just faints with lust" lmao

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:08 PM
I would love to see him perform tai chi with a sword. :hearts:

Guys, I need help!!!!!! I can't write anymore. Tell me to stop chatting and go back to work!

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
If someone told me I was a sex symbol for anyone I think I'd be a little stumped :p

Regardless of wether or not they were the same sex as me :p

What is he supposed to say "well yes, this is expected, seeing as I'm a huge stud. Everyone I meet just faints with lust" lmao

LMAO! Well, it would be the truth wouldn't it. *faint*

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 09:11 PM
I wouldn't be concerned about them saying "confounded off court".

They are just saying he was a little confused and baffled ;) Not a negative thing.

At least not IMO.

Nothing controversial there :)

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 09:14 PM
Safin Loses to Lopez, Ferrero Advances to Semis
The second round and quarterfinal matches were played Friday, to make up for the two lost days due to rain.

Friday Spanish left-hander Feliciano Lopez scored one of his biggest wins when he ousted top seed Marat Safin 7-6(2), 7-5 in the second round of the Salem Open in Hong Kong.

Because of the rain earlier in he week, both the second round matches and the quarterfinals had to be played the on Friday. After his win over Safin Lopez lost to Jonas Bjorkman in the quarters. The Swede scored a 6-2, 6-2 win over No. 7 seed Nicolas Lapentti earlier on in the day.

No. 2 seed Juan Carlos Ferrero defeated American qualifier Jeff Morrison 7-6(3), 6-2 in his second round match, and to advance to the semifinals, the Spaniard scored a 6-4, 6-4 win over lucky loser Anthony Dupuis of France.

Jerome Golmard recorded two wins over seeded players. In his first match of the day, the Frenchman scored a 6-3, 2-6, 7-6(2) win over fourth seed Alex Corretja. In the quarterfinals Golmard ousted No. 5 seed Juan Ignacio Chela of Argentina 6-4, 6-4.

Third seed Carlos Moya, who is looking for his fifth title of the season, won over Australia's Wayne Arthurs in the second round and defeated countryman Francisco Clavet 6-4, 3-6, 6-1 to reach the semis.


What the Players Said

SAFIN - I felt like I couldn't move, I couldn't run, I was very slow. My body's tired and I have no power anymore. My legs were empty. I had too many hours of tennis and I had a long flight. My muscles were just not ready. Today I start to run, the first couple of games, I felt OK and then I couldn't move anymore and with the heat. He (Lopez) was serving well, playing well, he's a really talented guy.

CORRETJA - the conditions were hot for both players, but he took a lot of risks and he took his chances and he played some huge chances especially at the end. I couldn't do much, I gave 100 percent and he just played some unbelievable tennis.
I'm really tennis because I was feeling really good on the court. Right now, it's a big disappointment, I feel very bad.
In the tie-break, I had no chances. But at the beginning of the third set, I had some break points.

FERRERO - I feel a little bit tired today after playing four sets. But I feel good that I won in two sets for each match. I'm really happy about going into the rest of the tournament. I prefer playing against Chela in the semifinal because for me Golmard is such a dangerous player. :eek::eek:

BJORKMAN - I've been hitting the ball well in practice, I just need to win some more here. Once I won the first one here, which was really tough, that helped me a lot. Today I played really well both against Lapentti and Lopez. After beating Lapentti today very confidently, even though Lopez beat Safin, I felt I ad a really good chance.

(On the conditions) That helps a lot especially in this heat and humidity. We're playing late which is nice for more time to rest. I always play well here. I was in the final in 1995 and it would be nice to get in another one.

GOLMARD - I played much with my heart this week than my tennis. Itís very important to me to show what I want and my game to Francois (new coach Francois Rebeuth). I like the sun anywhere, so any time we play in very hot atmosphere, for me it helps me fight a lot.

(On being out for four months this year) Something was broken in my elbow, in the triceps and I didn't know my elbow was broken and I lost a lot of time. Right now it's much better but I have some trouble in my shoulder.

(On his orange-striped mohawk-looking hair-do): It was blonde at the beginning and I did it because my hair was very long and it's difficult to wash. I wanted to do something funny and original.

SATURDAY PREVIEW

In the semifinals Ferrero takes on France's Jerome Golmard, who boasts wins over two seeded players this week, Corretja and Chela. The two have met twice before, and the Spaniard won their most recent encounter in the opening round of Roland Garros in 2000.

In the other match Jonas Bjorkman, a runner-up in Hong Kong seven years ago, meets Carlos Moya, a winner of four singles titles in 2002. The Swede has a 4-2 record against the Spaniard and has won their past four encounters.

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:14 PM
What Ferrero had to say today.

FERRERO - I feel a little bit tired today after playing four sets. But I feel good that I won in two sets for each match. I'm really happy about going into the rest of the tournament. I prefer playing against Chela in the semifinal because for me Golmard is such a dangerous player.


Incidentally, that's not the same statement that appeared earlier in the day, in which he said it wasn't such a problem to play 2 matches as he's used to playing 5-setters in the slams. But he said he was extremely happy to win both of them in 2 sets.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 09:14 PM
Layla, stop chatting! ;) I'm about to leave again anyway, so what reason would have you to be around after that anyway? ;)LOL

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:17 PM
LMAO TH! You posted the same article at exactly the same time. :eek: :D

It's ok if he goes into this match prepared for trouble. I wouldn't want him to think it was going to be easy and then lose because of that. Golmard must be dangerous, he defeated Alex and Chela today. And I'm pretty sure Alex played well. So Juanqui will have to do his best tomorrow. :)

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 09:18 PM
RRAARRR

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Layla, stop chatting! ;) I'm about to leave again anyway, so what reason would have you to be around after that anyway? ;)LOL

You're absolutely right. ;) See ya! :wavey:

Vera
09-27-2002, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
If someone told me I was a sex symbol for anyone I think I'd be a little stumped :p

Regardless of wether or not they were the same sex as me :p

What is he supposed to say "well yes, this is expected, seeing as I'm a huge stud. Everyone I meet just faints with lust" lmao

LMAO:D

He is indeed a huge stud so I'm stumped that they need a poll to find that out. :) But more stumped that they use it as a headline instead of mentioning that he's in the semi and he played great.

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 09:25 PM
Maybe they are confusing the atp with the wta :p

Vera
09-27-2002, 09:26 PM
Anyway, to stop distracting you Layla, I'm gonna go to. The truth is, I'm getting ticked off by the slowness of the server. Anyhow, good day for everyone. Ciao.

ILR
09-27-2002, 09:28 PM
still slow? mine is OK now! :confused:

ILR
09-27-2002, 09:28 PM
ps Hi Leo! :kiss: :kiss:

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 09:31 PM
PFFTT

I'm actually here the same time as everyone, and half of you leave :rolleyes :

*slap*

:D

Leo7
09-27-2002, 09:38 PM
hey ILR! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: i've missed u so damn much!

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:40 PM
My conection is ok now too. It certainly isn't slow.

:slap: for making me feel guilty, Becca! :p

Anyone wants to write business horoscope for me? ;)

ILR
09-27-2002, 09:42 PM
awww now that is sweet!U deserve plenty of kisses! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: Hey the Tommy Haas forum is pretty quiet we can make our little love nest there!lol ;)

ILR
09-27-2002, 09:43 PM
like me Layla? ;) Can I ?

Leo7
09-27-2002, 09:46 PM
lol! well my connection is slow too! and i'n not a patient person! :fiery:

TGIF! :)

meet you over at Tommy's forum, ILR! ;) :kiss:

Leo7
09-27-2002, 09:48 PM
http://www.sanexwta.com/assets/story_image/clijstersElke092402.jpg

Leo7
09-27-2002, 09:50 PM
ooops, i forgot to say that she is Elke Clijsters, Kimmy's lil sis. i just found a pic. isn't she a cutie?

but not as cute as ILR of course! ;)

Layla
09-27-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
like me Layla? ;) Can I ?

:)

But I see you might be busy. ;)

ILR
09-27-2002, 09:53 PM
awwww :o :o :o well I could try Layla ;)

ILR
09-27-2002, 09:59 PM
things at work this week may seem a little rough and you may have to ride the storm but if you dont get too involved with other peoples problems then it should work out well.Even if you think you are doing well by trying to solve other peoples problems,they will just see you as being inqusitive and annoying.Its best to keep out.If other colleagues owe you work its best not to get on their backs as good things come to those who wait.

Leo7
09-27-2002, 10:02 PM
i better go. the slow connection is driving me nuts and i should get all my homework done tonight so i can party all Saturday and Sunday! :D

bye-bye! :wavey:

:kiss: to ILR!

ILR
09-27-2002, 10:03 PM
hmmm OK then I just said on the other thread I was going aswell soon!Bye Leo! :kiss: :wavey: :kiss:

Layla
09-27-2002, 10:05 PM
Bye Leo! :wavey:

Wow, thanks ILR! You're a darling. :) I can't thank you enough. :o

ILR
09-27-2002, 10:06 PM
Its OK I like helping people out. :) Im a nice person!I think I have a knack for this! ;)

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 10:30 PM
Elke looks different than i had imaged.

I had imagned her looking like little Hewitt :D

Chloe le Bopper
09-27-2002, 10:31 PM
lol @ my attempts to type "imagined"

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 11:09 PM
I expected her to look like Kim, and she doesn't really.

Everyone's gone :( Well, I'll be the pathetic one to sit here on a Friday night, LMAO :o

Layla
09-27-2002, 11:15 PM
No I'm the pathetic one, still trying to work at 1:30 am. :o One more horoscope to go and then I can go to bed too.

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 11:17 PM
:wavey: You're ten posts away!

Layla
09-27-2002, 11:34 PM
I'll save them for tomorrow! I finally finished the last horoscope for today (still plenty more to write tomorrow) and I'm sooo sleepy that everything is blurry. I can't even see the screen anymore.

Night night! :wavey: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/ZZZsleep.gif

Tomorrow is a big day tennis-wise. I need to get enough sleep so I can cheer! :D

TennisHack
09-27-2002, 11:40 PM
Night!

Juanqui will be wonderful, as always :):hearts:

See you anon

Leo7
09-28-2002, 12:36 AM
i think the HK Semifinals start in about 2 hours 15 minutes! i'll have to find live scores somewhere....

VAMOS Juanqui! :bounce:

Leo7
09-28-2002, 12:37 AM
hey, this thread almost has 200 pages! :eek: nice work, guys. we are posting maniacs! :D

Vera
09-28-2002, 12:52 AM
:wavey: Hi Leo,

It's only 9am in HK, semi starts at 6pm.

Leo7
09-28-2002, 01:29 AM
:wavey: Vera!

guess i was misinformed :rolleyes:

Dissident
09-28-2002, 02:13 AM
You were lucky someone warned you Leo, since you could have stayed up the whole night waiting for scores. :p ;)

As always, I arrive and everyone is gone. :sad: :p

Layla
09-28-2002, 09:54 AM
Morning! :wavey:

And I always arrive when nobody is here yet. It's noon, which means tennis time!!! :bounce:

I'm waiting for Juanqui's match to start (and Eurosport coverage of motorcycling to stop). I'm so nervous and so excited! I hope the weather holds up. I just want to see him play once again. :)

GOOD LUCK, JUAN CARLOS!!! :kiss: The title is beckoning! ;)

Layla
09-28-2002, 11:39 AM
http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/boldblue.gif

Today is a day of celebrations! Juan Carlos has made yet another final!!! The first on the hard courts this year. :) Congratulations, mi amor! :kiss:

Apart from that, I broke the 4000 mark!!! Sure, no one's here to celebrate with me, but I'm so happy right now, I don't even mind. I think this is the time to open some champagne. I don't care if it's only morning. It's Saturday after all. ;)

I hope you will join me later on, but I'll just start without you. ;)

Mrs. B
09-28-2002, 11:42 AM
CONGRATS, LAYLA!!!!

and congrats to Juanqui for being in the final...;)

Layla
09-28-2002, 11:47 AM
Here it goes:

http://www.animationlibrary.com/Animation11/Food_and_Drinks/Alcoholic_Beverages/Champaign.gif

Layla
09-28-2002, 11:48 AM
Thank you darling! :) http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies/x197.gif

So I'm not alone out here? ;)

Now good luck to Moya and let's have another all-Spanish final! :D

Mrs. B
09-28-2002, 12:00 PM
another Spanish final sounds good to me but then i won't be able to decide who to root for because both of them are in the no. 2 spot of my fave Spaniards, next to Alex...;)

But, hey, i'll grab a glass and drink to your milestone here...CHEERZ, girl. You rock!!!!

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/partytime.gif

Layla
09-28-2002, 12:19 PM
I know you wanted me to post one of my poems to mark the occasion, but I don't want to ruin this beautiful day with my dark and messed up poetry. ;) I can post something I wrote more recently. Well, I didn't actually write it. It's a collage of lines from Laurie Anderson's songs, but slightly altered and mixed with my lines. Does anyone know her? She's a huge inspiration to me. I saw her in a concert once and she was just spectacular. She was hooked up a computer with a number of wires so that every motion triggered a different sound effect. She looked like an all-powerful magician up there. So cool. :cool:

So here it goes, my song... Blame it on the champagne lol.

And what I really want to know is this:
Are we getting closer or are we drifting apart?
Can we start all over again?
I want to meet you as a stranger.
Howdy stranger, mind if I... love you?*


*it's mind if I smoke in the original.

Leo7
09-28-2002, 12:24 PM
:bounce: CONGRATS Layla! u're the best poster here! :bounce:

:bounce: JUAN CARLOS! :bounce:

Layla, you got to see his Semifinal match? i'm so jealous, we don't get any coverage here until TMS Madrid, i think! :sad: so, how did Juanqui play? what was the score?

VAMOS! take the title! ;)

Layla
09-28-2002, 12:28 PM
:wavey: Leo!

Thanks. :o

I posted my brief report in the Juanqui in Hong Kong thread. ;)

Leo7
09-28-2002, 12:32 PM
thankyou for ther great report Layla! i'm glad he won so easily today. no sets lost all week!

now i hope that Carlos Moya wins too, but 7-6 in the 3rd, so he is tired out and can't beat Juanqui in the Final! :D

Mrs. B
09-28-2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I know you wanted me to post one of my poems to mark the occasion, but I don't want to ruin this beautiful day with my dark and messed up poetry. ;) I can post something I wrote more recently. Well, I didn't actually write it. It's a collage of lines from Laurie Anderson's songs, but slightly altered and mixed with my lines. Does anyone know her? She's a huge inspiration to me. I saw her in a concert once and she was just spectacular. She was hooked up a computer with a number of wires so that every motion triggered a different sound effect. She looked like an all-powerful magician up there. So cool. :cool:

So here it goes, my song... Blame it on the champagne lol.

And what I really want to know is this:
Are we getting closer or are we drifting apart?
Can we start all over again?
I want to meet you as a stranger.
Howdy stranger, mind if I... love you?*




Yes, i've heard of her, but i don't really know her music at all, they play one of her old hits here at the radio sometimes, she talks more instead of sing, doesn't she?

But these lines are really cool. :cool: I like the alteration on the last line. It's more appropriate.

TennisHack
09-28-2002, 12:44 PM
Congrats to Juan Carlos!! Congrats to Layla!!

I'm so very happy :D