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TennisHack
02-18-2003, 11:11 PM
AHA!! Found the mysterious "injured player" thing. Unfortunately, looks like this came to pass, but hopefully Jarkko will have no trouble with Sluiter anyway.

From the Dutch ABN AMRO site:

Raemon Sluiter (Neth) - Martin Verkerk (Neth)

Second evening match, unlikely to start before 9.15 p.m.
Raemon Sluiter was cheesed off about having to play his doubles partner Martin Verker, who has a stiff shoulder as a result of yesterday’s Challenger final in Lübeck. Sluiter is supremely confident following his close shave with Roger Federer in Marseille. This will be Sluiter’s first evening match in Ahoy’. It’s unlikely that the local favourite will disappoint his home crowd.
Sluiter to win in three sets.
Head-to-head: Verkerk 3-0

Dissident
02-18-2003, 11:14 PM
Hmmm, we didnt do anything special for valentines, but because it wasnt valentines day here. :p

For us, its on June! ;)

TennisHack
02-18-2003, 11:16 PM
Valentine's Day is in June?! Do tell! I've never heard that before!!

Leo7
02-18-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
awww thats sweet :kiss::D plus I remember Lee saying your crocodile was your boyfriend so I just figured ya know ;)

and Leo wouldnt touch you if I told him not to ;)

don't worry Emma, i'll be a good boy for ya. :kiss:

Dissident
02-18-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Valentine's Day is in June?! Do tell! I've never heard that before!!

June 12, in Brasil.
We call it "Dia dos Namorados"

hehehe ;)

Dissident
02-18-2003, 11:18 PM
Anyway, Ill go now to watch Guga

Will be back later. :wavey:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
don't worry Emma, i'll be a good boy for ya. :kiss:

good good,now thats how I like you ;):kiss:

and Valentines day in June?I didnt know about that either!

TennisHack
02-18-2003, 11:20 PM
June 12th . . . I'll remember that ;)

Have fun watching Guga! See you later! :wavey:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:21 PM
:wavey: Diss

and Leo when did you add a kiss to your location?;) I only just noticed!

Leo7
02-18-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
I told you months ago Leo dear ;) but well glad you like the sound of it :p

oh you did? well i have an awful memory so..

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:26 PM
yes I did but know you know anyway ;) mind you I did tell you straight after I had it done which was in August so I guess I can forgive you :p

Leo7
02-18-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
:wavey: Diss

and Leo when did you add a kiss to your location?;) I only just noticed!

well since i took you out of my sig (should i put you back?) i added a kiss to my location. :D :kiss:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:27 PM
oh OK well you can put me back in if you really want to ;)

Leo7
02-18-2003, 11:29 PM
i just came across this horrible article. it almost made me cry. :sad: how could professional doctors make such a careless and tragic mistake?

DURHAM, N.C. (Feb. 18) - A 17-year-old girl lay near death Tuesday after mistakenly receiving a heart and lung transplant from a donor with the wrong blood type, and hospital officials held out little hope of finding a new set of organs in time.

Jesica Santillan's condition steadily deteriorated after the botched operation Feb. 7. She suffered a heart attack Feb. 10 and a seizure on Sunday, and was in critical condition with a machine keeping her heart and lungs going.

''Right now my daughter is between life and death. She could die at any moment,'' her mother, Magdalena Santillan, said in Spanish through an interpreter. ''My daughter needs a transplant of a heart and lungs to survive. It's the only hope that we have because the doctors made an error.''

A family friend said the girl has only a few days left.

The girl has type O-positive blood but was given organs from a donor with type-A blood during the operation at Duke University Hospital.

Hospital spokesman Richard Puff said he could not specify how the mistake was made. But he said that the hospital staff believed the organs were compatible and that compatibility had been confirmed.

Jesica's body was rejecting the new organs because of the different blood types. Antibodies in her blood attacked the organs as foreign objects.

Puff said the girl is a candidate for another transplant and ''we remain hopeful that will happen.'' But he said the hospital can do little to improve her odds.

''We're going through the usual system of transplant agencies. That's all we can do,'' he said.

Jesica remained on the national waiting list kept by the United Network for Organ Sharing. Spokeswoman Anne Paschke said the national organ procurement group cannot specifically search for a heart and lungs for Jesica.

''Unfortunately, there are very few organs available,'' Paschke said. The organs not only have to be the right blood type, they have to be the right size to fit into the girl's chest cavity.

Mack Mahoney, the family friend, said Jesica is small for her age - 5-foot-2 and 85 pounds - and any donated organs would probably come from a child.

''We have a good chance of saving this child's life if we find a donor in the next couple of days,'' he said.

In the meantime, he said, the life-support apparatus was hurting Jesica, raising the danger of bleeding, stroke and kidney damage.

Jesica, who is from a small town near Guadalajara, Mexico, needed the transplant because a heart deformity kept her lungs from getting oxygen into her blood. Mahoney said she would have died within six months without a transplant.

The donated organs were flown in from Boston. They were sent with paperwork correctly listing the donor's type-A blood, said Sean Fitzpatrick of the New England Organ Bank, which sent the organs.

The hospital's chief executive, Dr. William Fulkerson, said it was still investigating how the mistake happened and whether any staff members should be disciplined. He said the hospital will add new confirmation requirements to ensure organ compatibility.

''This was a tragic event and our expectation is that, with these new procedures, this will not happen again,'' said Puff, the hospital spokesman. ''We've done thousands of organ transplants and it's never happened before.''

Organ network spokesman Bob Spieldenner said he knows of two similar cases in the past decade, both at Oregon Health Sciences University, now called Oregon Health and Science University.

In 1991, the hospital put a heart with the wrong blood type into a patient, but discovered the error. It gave him another heart and he survived. Three years later, surgeons opened the chest of a 15-year-old boy for a heart transplant, but discovered the organ was the wrong blood type and closed him up. The boy died 10 days later.

Heart and lung transplants are rare for teenagers: In the first 11 months of last year, there were four nationwide for children between the ages of 11 and 17, UNOS' records show. The previous year, there were four.

The Santillans moved to North Carolina nearly three years ago from Tamazula.

Mahoney, a businessman in Louiseburg, got involved after he read news reports of the girl's ailment and her family's lack of money. He and his wife joined community efforts to raise money to pay for her medical care, and Jesica's parents gave Mahoney power of attorney for their daughter.

''I've been trying to save this girl's life,'' Mahoney said. ''It's been a fight all the way.''

AP-NY-02-18-03 1724EST

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:32 PM
:eek: thats awfully sad :sad:

TennisHack
02-18-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
The girl has type O-positive blood but was given organs from a donor with type-A blood during the operation at Duke University Hospital.

:eek::eek: Wrong way, they thought the wrong way!! O+ is often called "the universal bloodtype" because if you give it to a person during a transfusion it will work for any blood type.

Oh, this poor girl. What a horrific accident -- even moreso when its noted this isn't the hospital's first erroneous organ transplant :sad: Heart & lung transplants are among the hardest and rarest in the world, I've heard. I don't think there's much hope for her survival, especially if she needs a child's organs.

Leo7
02-18-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
oh OK well you can put me back in if you really want to ;)

done :kiss:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:39 PM
;) now thats a nice sig Leo :kiss:

TennisHack
02-18-2003, 11:46 PM
Well, I'm off to complete my homework. I'll probably be back later before bed.

See you guys later, and goodnight if I don't see you again! :wavey:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:47 PM
Bye Hackie :wavey:

Leo7
02-18-2003, 11:52 PM
i should go too. i have to watch Gilmore Girls and then finish my homework. au revoir Emma and Diss. :wavey:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:52 PM
lol bye Leo :wavey::kiss:

glad we got the chance to talk again!:)

vaiva
02-18-2003, 11:57 PM
Seems like I'm joining the trend of leavers as well. Done with my work for today.

BTW, I've found a very nice article about Guga and posted it in his forum. I'm sure Lee would love to read it. As I said there I never knew he was THAT nice a person and THAT popular in Brasil. Try to read it (it's longish). I think you'll find it interesting.

Au revoir! :wavey:

ILR
02-18-2003, 11:59 PM
lol poor me bye Vaiva!:wavey:

maybe I should just post myself some pics ;)

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:01 AM
aha a pic that goes well with earlier conversation of blood!:p This is my absoltuely favourite gorgeous Finn in the world with a cut head :(:( he had to wear a bandage for the last few games and Im ashamed to say I quite got to like it :o

ps.If you look at it closely then it does kinda look like he is bleeding form the teasrducts!:p:eek:

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 12:04 AM
:p YUK, ILR!!

You still up?? Isn't it 1am over there??

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:08 AM
awwww bless him :sad: Hes bleeding :( I just want to hug and kiss him better :p

hmm yes its 1:10am here but I dont have to get up for anything do I?;) hope you're not going to leave me!

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
awwww bless him :sad: Hes bleeding :( I just want to hug and kiss him better :p

hmm yes its 1:10am here but I dont have to get up for anything do I?;) hope you're not going to leave me!

ILR -- where is everyone else then?? You're getting to be as gross as Rebecca!! Silly! Hey, they've changed the UEFA Champions tv sched here -- instead of 2.30pm, it's on tonight at 11.30pm!! How dumb! How can I watch FC Barcelona vs. Inter Milan??? Did I hear that ManU lost?? What's w the stitches on Becks' eyebrow?? Was it Sir Alex again?? :p

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:16 AM
everyone else is uh....:confused: I have no idea!What is so gross about kissing him?:p what are you trying to say about my lovely Sami?;)Um I dunno how you can watch Inter Milan sorry!And Fergie kicked a football boot at Becks and it hit him in the face:eek: an accident apparently ;) utd lost 2-0 to Arsenal in the FA cup :D

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 12:20 AM
ILR it's not the kissing that's gross, it's all that blood...

I don't watch Inter I watch FC Barca!! VAMOS!!! GOL!!!!! ;) Maybe one day I'll go to a futbol match at Camp Nou in Barcelona... have you been to a big match?? As long as the fans don't go bezerk! I'm afraid of stampedes.

Are there a lot of matches to watch this week?

Didn't bother watching Corrie today... too boring. Maybe tomorrow.

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:24 AM
ha ha lol OK then let you off I agree I dont like blood,if I had a head injury then Id feel faint.Hes so brave *gushes* :o;)

Well I have been to Liverpool v Inter Milan a few years ago which we won 2-1 :D but I was upset as Ronaldo was injured,I would have loved to have seen him play :) the last match I went to was v Spartak Moscow,Im sure you remember we won 5-0 :D

As for stampedes well that always brings back memories of the Hillsboro disaster,which makes me cry :sad:

Corrie-well Ive lost my way a bit,Im always on here!:p

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 12:34 AM
:) Well, ILR, I have to do sth now, so I'll say bye but I may check back later!

I'll probably catch up w you tomorrow, so cheer for ROGI!! ;)

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:36 AM
well I may aswell go up to bed now,no one around!Im speed karting tomorrow remember :p But Ill cheer in spirit :) In fact I'll do it now

:bounce: :D Go Rogi :D :bounce:

Bye RF :wavey:

Vera
02-19-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
Oh gosh, I dunno about that .. . I was pretty googly when I got to be within five feet of him. I think I scared the heck out of him. It was pretty obvious I had, erm, a pretty large crush on him . .

lol. I wonder what you did, besides that Ferrero Rocher you gave him :D.

Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
Poor Juanqui. He wasn't that day because he was practicing with Jan-Michael Ken-Doll and so a mob of twenty 13-yr olds were around the court just for JMG. It was kinda obvious I was the only JCF fan

Phew, I'm glad that those 13 yrs old weren't after him. I much like it when his fans are all mature tennis fanatics like us then those teenies. ;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 01:21 AM
Am watching the hockey game and my team's in a deep hole. Well, I just can't desert them at this time, can I. Although it's very likely that they'll register their first lost in the past 10 games. Even though it sounded pretty good that they haven't lost much lately, the Avs are on our tail and they gained 6 points on us since their unbeaten streak is even longer :mad:. Oh well, fight Canucks fight!

Later :wavey:

Lee
02-19-2003, 01:40 AM
Hi Emma and vaive! :wavey:

Vaive, thanks for the article. I will read it later.

I was not feeling well when waiting for Vince to finish his class today so instead of making dinner, I went to supermarket to buy some tonight. When I was parking, my car had a little disagreement with a Jeep in next stall and mine came out the worst. There is a 6" scratch in the front bumper while nothing happened to the Jeep. :( And my car is just 6 months old.

At least when I'm home, I have the good news of Guga won his match.

My migraine now is killing me so Bye! :wavey:

Vera
02-19-2003, 02:12 AM
Migraine, hope you feel better soon Lee! On TV the other day, research shown that some other medication like those for high-blood pressure are more effective than pain-killer, have you heard about those? I think that was 20/20 or Dateline that talks about that.

Vera
02-19-2003, 02:15 AM
BTW, did anyone post it?

Juan Carlos Ferrero lives up to expectations

Although favourite Juan Carlos Ferrero faced a tough opponent during the first round of the ABN AMRO World Tennis Tournament, the Spaniard lived up to expectations. The 23-year old disposed of Australian Wayne Arthurs in straight sets. Arthurs, whose strongest weapon is arguably his service, made his comeback in Rotterdam. Both sets went to a tie-break.

The number one seed, who ranks fifth in the world, heaved a sigh of relief as he left court. Unlike last year, when he was beaten by the eventual champion Nicolas Escudé, Ferrero is through to the second round. He next plays either Jonas Björkman or Peter Wessels.

He ranks 5th :rolleyes: ?

That's the sigh of relief:

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 02:20 AM
:wavey: thread! :D

How is everyone?

TH, remember that overachiever in Elvish 101 I told you about? Today she posted a translation of a long passage from the Bible. :eek: :o Damn, I have so much catching up to do. :p

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
This is my absoltuely favourite gorgeous Finn in the world with a cut head :(:(

Ooh, I see gorgeousness is also in the water in Finland.

Poor dear. Just want to give him a great big comfort kiss, don't you? ;)

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 02:24 AM
Vera -- he's fifth in the Champions Race :rolleyes:

LOL, ILR -- guess we both want to kiss that Finnish cutie, blood or not! :D

Many **hugs** for you, Lee :( A scratch on the car AND a migrane :( At least Guga won. I feel you aren't the only one happy with that result :)

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
TH, remember that overachiever in Elvish 101 I told you about? Today she posted a translation of a long passage from the Bible. :eek: :o Damn, I have so much catching up to do. :p

Hey, DP! :wavey:

:eek: Methinks she has some problems or is too engrossed in academia. Don't even try to catch up that that :rolleyes:

How are you? Has is your translation coming, or is it?

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 02:26 AM
By the way, for Layla -- Arnaud won his first round match, having only played five games. His opponent retired with a left leg injury.

He's playing doubles tomorrow (Wednesday).

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 02:45 AM
Kafelnikov fed up with criticism from Russian media
2003-02-18 12:41:32 GMT (Reuters)
By Pritha Sarkar

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands, Feb 18 (Reuters) - Yevgeny Kafelnikov, who stormed into the second round of the World Indoor Tournament on Tuesday, says he is fed up with criticism from the Russian media.

Newspapers in Russia were extremely critical of Kafelnikov's below-par performance during the team's nailbiting 3-2 Davis Cup victory over the Czech Republic earlier this month.

Former Soviet great Alex Metreveli accused the double grand slam champion of being unprepared for the first round tie.

"No matter what I have done for the country, they are never thankful for what I do," Kafelnikov told Reuters after his first-round triumph over Spain's Feliciano Lopez.

"I don't pay much attention to Russian papers because they always find a way of criticising me even after all these years."

Kafelnikov became the first Russian to lift a grand slam crown at Roland Garros in 1996 and added a second with victory at the 1999 Australian Open.

Having achieved his goal of guiding his country to their first Davis Cup title in December, Kafelnikov feels that he has been unfairly treated when things do not go according to plan.

He denied that he had been omitted from the original Russian singles line-up by Russian captain Shamil Tarpishchev for the tie against the Czechs due to his recent poor form.

"I volunteered not to play because I felt I was physically not fit enough to play best of five set matches," he said. "Whatever decision was made, it was mine."


STRAIGHT SETS

Despite not playing on the opening day of the tie, Kafelnikov had to step in for an ailing Mikhail Youzhny on the third day and ended up losing in straight sets.

"If I feel I cannot give 100 percent, then I'll take that responsibility and step down and let someone else play," said the former world number one, who was replaced by Youzhny for the deciding clash in the final against France last December.

"Even in the final, I took that responsibility on myself not to play (the fifth rubber).

"It is a team competition and we are all in it together trying to accomplish one goal hence we will all do what is best for the team."

Kafelnikov, 29 on Tuesday, said he had also gone back on his promise to retire at the end of 2002 if Russia won the Cup because he felt rejuvenated following surgery to remove a varicose vein in his left leg last December.

"I was ready to retire but after surgery I was feeling physically strong again and reconsidered," he said. "I believe I can still win tournaments so I decided to play on."

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Hey, DP! :wavey:

:eek: Methinks she has some problems or is too engrossed in academia. Don't even try to catch up that that :rolleyes:

How are you? Has is your translation coming, or is it?

(Sorry, was away translating something)

LOL... I found an old post of hers saying that she's a teacher, and a linguist (ah, that explains a fair bit! :p )

Well.. I've started with some simpler things... remember those Elvish (Quenya) pickup lines I posted in here a while back? Well I translated them into Sindarin and posted them yesterday, but no feedback just yet. (I found out today that the tutor that assesses my exercise sheets had her computer blow up today :o so I think that may not happen till she gets a new one. :p )

I was away translating a simple riddle from 'The Hobbit'.... a, just about to post it there too...this one was really easy.. all the verbs were in 3rd person present tense...'Androcles and the Lion' is for this weekend. Hrmm... maybe I'll have a go at the entire book of Revelations next weekend. :p (j/k!!!)

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:18 AM
Hi TH & Allan! :wavey:

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Many **hugs** for you, Lee :( A scratch on the car AND a migrane :( At least Guga won. I feel you aren't the only one happy with that result :)

Thanks! My migraine is getting better now.

Guga won today and he's lucky that Rios pulled out. His game is not quite up to par so a tougher opponent may take him down.

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 03:22 AM
:wavey: Hi Lee! :D How are you?

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Migraine, hope you feel better soon Lee! On TV the other day, research shown that some other medication like those for high-blood pressure are more effective than pain-killer, have you heard about those? I think that was 20/20 or Dateline that talks about that.

It make sense that high-blood pressure drugs may work better than pain-killer for mirgraine but the side effect will be too dangerous for people with normal blood pressure I guess.

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy
:wavey: Hi Lee! :D How are you?

:( guess you never read back a few pages of posts here, then, you will know I have a very bad day but that's OK.

Vince is so good after the minor accident, he's like :angel: and my hubby is very careful when he talks to me :D

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 03:31 AM
*hug* You had an accident? :( I hope everyone's fine, and you all have a much better day tomorrow.


Sometimes I read back... sometimes I don't manage to... it's hard to keep up with both the camel thread and this one :eek:

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
aha a pic that goes well with earlier conversation of blood!:p This is my absoltuely favourite gorgeous Finn in the world with a cut head :(:( he had to wear a bandage for the last few games and Im ashamed to say I quite got to like it :o



Definitely a very yummy Finn here even I'm not a vampire. :D

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by Vera
Am watching the hockey game and my team's in a deep hole. Well, I just can't desert them at this time, can I. Although it's very likely that they'll register their first lost in the past 10 games. Even though it sounded pretty good that they haven't lost much lately, the Avs are on our tail and they gained 6 points on us since their unbeaten streak is even longer :mad:. Oh well, fight Canucks fight!

Later :wavey:

Looks like your Canuck has a very good comeback. Congrat for another OT win! :bounce:

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by Lee
Hi Emma and vaive! :wavey:

Vaive, thanks for the article. I will read it later.

I was not feeling well when waiting for Vince to finish his class today so instead of making dinner, I went to supermarket to buy some tonight. When I was parking, my car had a little disagreement with a Jeep in next stall and mine came out the worst. There is a 6" scratch in the front bumper while nothing happened to the Jeep. :( And my car is just 6 months old.

At least when I'm home, I have the good news of Guga won his match.

My migraine now is killing me so Bye! :wavey:

Allan, here's what happen!

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 03:38 AM
:sad: and your car's only 6 months old? How terrible! :mad:

Lee
02-19-2003, 03:45 AM
Yeah, we bought this car when we move down here and it costs a fortune. At least this time, its only the bumper and not the body.

Anyway, I better be off and don't aggregate my migraine anymore! Goodnight (day)! :wavey:

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 03:49 AM
All that talk about bleeding through you eye was enough to gross me out, Becca. So I guess you succeeded again

Muhahahah! All a part of my plan, all a part of my plan...

I was describing it to Hurley over MSN once and he threatened to block me if I didnt' stop :)

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 03:51 AM
Goodnight Lee! :wavey:

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by ferrerogrrl
Ah! :bounce: :wavey: Welcome to that board then! Be forewarned, Becca, some posters get really down on Juanqui there. It can be frustrating :fiery: But me, chrisx, tombeau and jenrios are usually the token supporters.

I had a feeling that you would figure out that it was me, based on the "Rebecca" and the indenticle avatar. Not to mention my brief Ferrero ramblings.

I noticed that he isn't well liked over there. I'm sure I can handle it ;) I don't mind people poking fun, as long as it's tastless. Even if it isn't, I just remind myself of how effectively I've been using the "Bashing Zone" lately, to mock out anybody from Jeff Tarango to Justin Gimelstob.

That was great btw - I started talking about what a sexy animal Jeff Tarango is and a lot of people thought that I was dead serious ;) They'll get used to me...

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 04:05 AM
Oh gosh, I dunno about that .. . I was pretty googly when I got to be within five feet of him. I think I scared the heck out of him. It was pretty obvious I had, erm, a pretty large crush on him . .
:P


Don't feel embarassed Maly :) I'm "googly" the entire time that I watch him in Canada, and that isn't even his practices. I'm yet to catch him practicing, but I hold out hope for this year! If I do, I'm sure that I will just gape stupidly, as any obsessed fan would ;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by Lee
Looks like your Canuck has a very good comeback. Congrat for another OT win! :bounce:

Thank you :kiss:. They surprised me yet again, sorry for ever doubting them when they were behind 0-3 in the 3rd period. I mean, even Lucky Luc scored a goal who has only 2 goals in like 26 games and we had to pull our #1 goalie who was the league's player of the week, I was sure that there's no way we can mount a comeback. But they did it and I was in tears when I saw the puck past Cujo in OT. Now, they better beat Columbus in this coming Sunday. What's wrong with this picture when they beat all the best teams in the league and have troubles with teams like Calgary and Columbus :rolleyes: , yeah, we lost to Columbus twice and the last time they came back when we led 4-1:o . But for now, I'm way too happy.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Vera
02-19-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Lee
It make sense that high-blood pressure drugs may work better than pain-killer for mirgraine but the side effect will be too dangerous for people with normal blood pressure I guess.

Well, they said the dosage required to kill Migraine is so small that the patient doesn't really have to worry about the side effect. But of course, one has to get advice from the doctor. And the research is on patient who has severe migraine 2 or 3 times a week. I guess the risk is worth to take for them when they have to suffer so much.

BTW, sorry about your car. Hope you aren't too upset.

Vera
02-19-2003, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Vera -- he's fifth in the Champions Race :rolleyes:


I guess they were using the Champ race and how ridiculous that is :rolleyes: . And JC is actually ranked 6th in the Race.

Vera
02-19-2003, 06:41 AM
Layla, Esther posted in the Musketeer forum that Seb has a chat session in Rotterdam at 7 pm. I'm trying to figure what's my time. And I don't really have anything that I want to ask him. But FYI in case you have.

ferrerogrrl
02-19-2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Vera
lol. I wonder what you did, besides that Ferrero Rocher you gave him :D.

ungh:rolleyes: I'm so embarrassed about the Rocher thing now. Oh Gods!

Originally posted by Vera
Phew, I'm glad that those 13 yrs old weren't after him. I much like it when his fans are all mature tennis fanatics like us then those teenies. ;)

;) Ha ha, YES! We Ferrero fans are the best! :D

ferrerogrrl
02-19-2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
I had a feeling that you would figure out that it was me, based on the "Rebecca" and the indenticle avatar. Not to mention my brief Ferrero ramblings.

I noticed that he isn't well liked over there. I'm sure I can handle it ;) I don't mind people poking fun, as long as it's tastless. Even if it isn't, I just remind myself of how effectively I've been using the "Bashing Zone" lately, to mock out anybody from Jeff Tarango to Justin Gimelstob.

That was great btw - I started talking about what a sexy animal Jeff Tarango is and a lot of people thought that I was dead serious ;) They'll get used to me...

LOLOLOL!! :D :bounce: I'm so glad you're at that board now! It'll definitely make things funner, though I can see you'll probably get into a couple of fights with the more humor-deficient posters:rolleyes: That he "isn't well-liked over there" is almost an understatement. Most just write him off or appreciate him during claycourt season and a very few people actually feel a real animosity to JCF! :mad: It's as if his success (or ambition to suceed elsewhere besides claycourts) personally offends them or something. And I just don't get it! The best answer I get is "he annoys me" or "he doesn't deserve it" or "he's a twerp". ARGH! !:fiery: I'm not a mature enough of a fan yet where I not be bothered when people write stupid things about him or I can understand why anyone could hate him :fiery: Unfortunately I let stupid things like this get to me. But I'm so glad to have another JCF fan in the ranks there! Believe me, you'll be doing a lot of defending him there

Originally posted by Rebecca
Don't feel embarassed Maly :) I'm "googly" the entire time that I watch him in Canada, and that isn't even his practices. I'm yet to catch him practicing, but I hold out hope for this year! If I do, I'm sure that I will just gape stupidly, as any obsessed fan would ;)

hehe :p well I guess, in my mind, I thought if i'd ever have the chance to meet Juanqui, I would try to be as composed and beautiful and blah blah *maly wanders off into fantasy land now*:kiss: :hearts: as I could (I think in my mind I was wearing an evening gown also .. I know, real practical). .. . and instead, I just pretty much became jello at his feet as I proceeded to hand over a melty box of chocolates to him. *sigh* :rolleyes: :D real classy and original. *embarrassment*

ferrerogrrl
02-19-2003, 07:18 AM
Lee, so sorry about your car :( That sucks ! Hope these next few days are extra good to compensate!:) :bounce:

ferrerogrrl
02-19-2003, 07:21 AM
just a preface: I don't mean to offend any Safin or Moya fans!;) Anyways, I'm a fan of both!

Just a general observation: ok, I don't frequent the general threads but sometimes I pop in. Um, is it just me or whenever there is a thread having to do with pictures, both Safin and Moya fans just flood the thread of Marat or Carlos? And do the Marat and Carlos fans just get into fights about this?

maratski
02-19-2003, 08:33 AM
Goodmorning :wavey:

As I said I was on the chat with Dominik yesterday. I asked him all kinds of questions, like what his fave tournament is, his best friend on the tour, his best victory, the importance of fashion in tennis ( I know it's silly, but just had to ask :D). He likes the tournament in Dubai and likes Roger. He liked his match against Sampras at RG 1997 (I think). Fashion is not important for him. I told him he was cute and he thanked me for the compliment. He's only playing doubles with Yevgeny on this tournament and he thinks Martina Navratilova is still a good player. He likes reading and listening to music, but he doesn't have a fave band.
It was cool and lasted like half an hour. Today there's a chat with Grosjean, but I don't know if I'll chat with him. It's at 7pm cet and that's when I finish work.

I'm sorry to hear about your car Lee.

Becca I don't think you're gross :D;. I'm one of those weird people who can handle talking about blood and vomiting, etc. I won't tell you about the day it cost me 2 hours to throw up my big mac.

Nymeria
02-19-2003, 08:43 AM
Hey Ilhame, I was in the chat too (I was the one who asked if you was Ilhame of atpworld).
I was a bit late with visiting the chat, because I had dinner at 6 p.m. But tonight I will be in the chat with Grosjean for sure, but I've to think about what I'm going to ask.
I asked Dominik a few questions, but he answered just one queston. That was if he did like lord of the rings, and he does :D :D :D I really had to ask, because we talked the whole time about lotr at school.

maratski
02-19-2003, 09:30 AM
I was wondering who asked me that question. It's nice that they do these chats once and a while. It's difficult sometimes to come up with questions, so I really asked lots of various things from best friend to fashion. I remember one guy who kept asking questions about girls.

Where are you from actually? :wavey:

maratski
02-19-2003, 09:36 AM
I was just looking at JC's pics from when he was younger and it reminded me of this tennis programme I have once seen. I don't remember everything, but it was a tournament for under 12 I think and JC and Anna won. At night there was a party and the winners had to do the 1st dance. It was really cute seeing him and Anna dance. You can see that his looks haven't really changed that much.

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 10:00 AM
Ilhame, there is a photo of the two of them dancing floating around the web somewhere. I'm too lazy to dig it up, but maybe somebody else will later ;)

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 10:07 AM
As I said I was on the chat with Dominik yesterday. I asked him all kinds of questions, like what his fave tournament is, his best friend on the tour, his best victory, the importance of fashion in tennis ( I know it's silly, but just had to ask ). He likes the tournament in Dubai and likes Roger. He liked his match against Sampras at RG 1997 (I think). Fashion is not important for him. I told him he was cute and he thanked me for the compliment. He's only playing doubles with Yevgeny on this tournament and he thinks Martina Navratilova is still a good player. He likes reading and listening to music, but he doesn't have a fave band.
It was cool and lasted like half an hour. Today there's a chat with Grosjean, but I don't know if I'll chat with him. It's at 7pm cet and that's when I finish work.

I missed where you said that you were going to be doing this. Thanks for the info - although it doesn't seem he said anything all that interesting. He could at least have commented on his love of cashews! Woohoo Go Hrbaty! Go cashews!


Becca I don't think you're gross ;. I'm one of those weird people who can handle talking about blood and vomiting, etc. I won't tell you about the day it cost me 2 hours to throw up my big mac.

If you'd like to trade vomitting stories, I'm up for it. I have some realy gems!

maratski
02-19-2003, 10:28 AM
I talked about the chat a dozen of pages ago, but there's always so much catching up to do that you can't remember everything.

We have this holiday in Holland on 30 April. It's when the Queen celebrates her birthday. There are all kinds of festivities and you never get a descent meal that day. You're out all day and eat junk food. I had french fries for lunch and some nice dutch cookies afterwards. For dinner I had a big mac menu. I went out with my younger brother cause Alice Deejay would give a mini concert in a park. When I got there my stomach wasn't feeling to well and I decided to go home. The pain was killing me. Half way there I just couldn't keep it inside anymore and part one was out. I threw up in the bushes. At home it took me half an hour to get part 2 out. Part 3 followed later. I felt so terrible that I put my finger in my mouth several times to help it go out, but it didn't really help. The next day I still felt as if some pieces were still somewhere up my troath. I haven't eaten at McDonald's for 3
weeks afterwards.

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 10:37 AM
We have this holiday in Holland on 30 April. It's when the Queen celebrates her birthday.

I celebrate my brithday on that day tooooo ;)

Alright, time for my vomit story - lets see if I can match yours. I'll skip the alcohol induced vomit stories at first, seeing as they are the grossest, and if you dont' drink then I have an unfair advantage over you ;)

Well it must have been the end of Grade Ten, I took the bus to Toronto with two of my friends and their mothers to see the performance of STOMP that was in the city for a short while.

I only got about 4 or 5 hours sleep the night before, and hadn't eaten breakfast. Wisely, I opted to have some hot chocolate from the machine (!!) in the bus station before we got on the bus. About a half hour into the trip, I began to feel very dizzy and sick to my stomache. Not long after I started what would be an hour of errupting into these small plastic baggies that were used to hold small amounts of garbage next to the seats.

Of course, it was a totally packed bus that day. Not only did I have a friend beside me, but there were girls sitting right in front of me as well. Lucky them!

The gross part is not that I barfed on the bus. The gross part is that I was SO dizzy and weak that I could not get up to walk to the bathroom to carry my little baggies back there to throw out. But hey, that's what friends are for right? Carrying hot baggies of thrown up hot coco to the bathroom - nice way to start out their mornings, no? :) They both made about 4 trips!

vaiva
02-19-2003, 10:40 AM
Good morning girls! (and boys, if any) :wavey:

I see you are having an intelligent talk :D. If you decide to switch to horror stories about burns maybe I'll join you to share some of my painful experiences. Just don't talk about cuts and blood. That's something I cannot stand. If you want to know all of my secrets (even things that I do not know myself), take me for a moment to the operating room :o.

My day began in great fashion. Watched some skiing world champs and the Norvegians had a clean sweep at 30 km classic! Alsgaard took the gold and Frode settled for bronze :bounce: I'm sure Layla will join me in my celebration ;)

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 10:42 AM
Hey Vaiva :)

My burn stories aren't nearly as thrilling as my vomitting, nose bleed, or body piercing stories!

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 10:46 AM
I found this in the Hockey Section of cnnsi, but I wanted to point it out to Vera! I'm sure you already know about this, but here it is anyhow:

Vancouver residents to vote on 2010 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/news/2003/02/18/tuesday_roundup_ap/)Olympics
Posted: Tuesday February 18, 2003 6:29 PM
Updated: Wednesday February 19, 2003 12:02 AM


VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -- Vancouver residents vote Saturday on whether they want to host the 2010 Winter Olympics.

There already is widespread support from local and provincial businesses and government leaders. About 293,000 residents are eligible for the nonbinding vote.

Also bidding for the 2010 Games are Salzburg, Austria, and Pyeongchang, South Korea. Bern, Switzerland, withdrew last year when a referendum showed most voters opposed a loan to help finance the bid. The IOC votes for the 2010 host in July.

Voters will be asked to answer "yes" or "no" to the question: "Do you support or do you oppose the city of Vancouver's participation in hosting the 2010 Olympic Winter Games and Paralympic Winter Games?"

Jack Poole, chairman of the Vancouver 2010 Bid Corp., said majority support in the vote will erase any doubt about the city's commitment.

In last year's mayoral election, winning candidate Larry Campbell -- an Olympic supporter -- promised a vote if elected.

Olympic banners dot city streets, and Vancouver Canucks defenseman Ed Jovanovksi, a member of Canada's gold medal hockey team in 2002, appears on the stadium scoreboard urging a "yes" vote.

Opponents are operating on an $800 budget, relying heavily on the Internet to spread their message.

Chris Shaw, spokesman for the No Games 2010 Coalition, thinks voters will use the Olympic issue to express anger over higher taxes and other policies of the provincial government

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Vote YES Vera ;)

maratski
02-19-2003, 10:49 AM
I don't drink but I always throw up on the 1st day of my period. I try not to eat that day. I remember one day last summer. We had rented a house at the beach for a week and were going home again. It was a 6 hour drive and my aspirines didn't do shit for me. I was in pain the entire day and I threw up twice in a bag in the car.

I also get seasick. One day when we crossed the mediterranean sea to go back to Holland the weather was really bad and I threw up on the deck. I was one of many people to throw up that day. A woman next to me threw up in her hand and threw it into the sea. After 3 hours we arrived in Spain and everybody on the boat was sleeping. They also had bags lying next to them. I feel really sorry for the peeps who had to clean up afterwards.

maratski
02-19-2003, 10:59 AM
Since we're talking about weird things today, have you read in non-tennis about the girl who asks guys what the size of their penis is? She wants to know in general so she can conclude whether her ex boyfriends were well hung or not. Nobody answered so far :D

vaiva
02-19-2003, 11:01 AM
Burn stories are not thrilling but painful as hell. I was making dinner for my crocodile one night (talk about exploitation of women :p). The process involved some hot oil and a pan, talking on the phone and guarding a piece of meat from my dog simultaneously. Suddenly, two huge bubles of hot oil exploded and burned my two fingers on the left hand. The pain was so unbearable that I did not manage to switch off the stove, just dropped the handset on the floor and rushed to the bathroom to keep my fingers under a running cold water.

My bf returned after 20 minutes. He found me crying in the bathroom, my mobile ringing in the kitchen (I was on the phone with my mom who could not understand why our conversation was interrupted so suddenly) our flat smelling with burned oil and a happy dog (who decided the meat was left for him) lying at my feet in the bathroom.

The ugly part was that next day we had a wedding to attend. Given our next-to-nothing skills of bandaging I looked pretty awful at the church. Not to mention that later (during the party) I had to endure tons of cooking tips and stories from older ladies and relatives :o

maratski
02-19-2003, 11:04 AM
I hope you won't get burned again, but putting toothpaste on it really helps. It hurts a bit, cause it gets warm, but the pain goes away quickly and so will the burnings.

Chloe le Bopper
02-19-2003, 11:06 AM
I don't drink but I always throw up on the 1st day of my period. I try not to eat that day. I remember one day last summer. We had rented a house at the beach for a week and were going home again. It was a 6 hour drive and my aspirines didn't do shit for me. I was in pain the entire day and I threw up twice in a bag in the car.


Period stories! Even better!

I used to get so sick during my period that I could miss a day or two of school every month. Thank god for birth control :o Without it I can't function.

Vaiva - thanks for the burning story! Have you any more? ;)


I have a splitting headache AGAIN. I might be off shortly.

vaiva
02-19-2003, 11:09 AM
Well my crocodile bought some spray which was quite helpful. But the burns were quite deep and I had ugly scars chaning from bright red to brown to grey-brown for about a month.

And I developed a hot oil phobia since then :D

maratski
02-19-2003, 11:14 AM
I burned my hand when my mom was ironing. I walked by waving my arms and before I knew it I had burned my hand. It didn't hurt and after a year and a half you hardly see it anymore.

vaiva
02-19-2003, 11:19 AM
Becca, enough for today :D Let's save some fun for the other days as well.

BTW, the perfect cure for the first day of period is champagne (that's the only occasion when I drink it). I got this "recipe" from my friends grandmother :o but it really works.

Pfffff, headaches. Some sleep could help maybe. Lucky me, I never have them. Maybe had one or two in my entire life.

maratski
02-19-2003, 11:27 AM
I'm really counting the minutes till Marat starts playing this afternoon.

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 11:33 AM
Hi Guys! :wavey:

LOL @ your puking stories. My most embarassing was throwing up at the side of a bank in Manila, at the entrance of their underground parking space. I couldn't hold anymore, blame it on my massive migraine attacks, i puked out there for everyone to see. The nice security guard was pretty helpful though, he poured water all over it. (probably part of his job!) :rolleyes:

Headaches! I get those frequently, and i blame it on hormonal rock and roll. Even going out without a cap in this freezing weather gives me headaches.

Becca, hope your wrist is better. re: burns. i use ripe tomatoes and rub it on the spot and it's soothing...

:D

vaiva
02-19-2003, 11:37 AM
See, you are just like those elderly ladies at the wedding party giving me tips :p j/k

Guess it's just a universal girl thing. I'm also always full of unconventional advice :D

Oh and I also cannot wait for Marat match to start ;)

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 11:46 AM
i'm still waiting for the right tip as to how to get rid of migraines. the usual tablets don't really do it for me... :(

Are you guys having coverage on Rotterdam? Lucky you. I'd love to see Roger's match tonight. And i hope Safin does well...

maratski
02-19-2003, 11:54 AM
I'm in Paris and I probably won't be having any tennis coverage till RG or TMS Monaco.

I can't help you with the migraines, cause I hardly ever have a headache, sorry.

The tournament is broadcasted by a dutch channel, but you can't receive it abroad. That really sucks.

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 11:58 AM
Well, i'm in Switzerland, so that's not really too far. Had it been braodcasted on Eurosport i might have a pretty good chance.

Paris! Lucky you. I'm saving up to go to RG in May, but it has to be on the first week on the first 3 days where you can watch matches on the sidecourts all over the place.

maratski
02-19-2003, 12:01 PM
I'm also planning to go then. I think the 1st 2 days. It depends on whether I'll get those days off from work.

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 12:03 PM
Somebody from my tennis club who always go there every year said tickets are not hard to get in those first few days...

vaiva
02-19-2003, 12:11 PM
How much are the tickets? Do you have any idea?

My problem is that even though I have pretty good income to enjoy living in my country, some tournament fees are just unimaginably high for me.

Layla
02-19-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by vaiva

My day began in great fashion. Watched some skiing world champs and the Norvegians had a clean sweep at 30 km classic! Alsgaard took the gold and Frode settled for bronze :bounce: I'm sure Layla will join me in my celebration ;)

Hello everyone! :wavey:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!! http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/boldblue.gif http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/boldblue.gif

I'm over the moon. My cross-country love, Thomas Alsgaard, won the 30 km classic and is the new world champion! :hearts::hearts::hearts:

After a horrible season, when only a week or two ago he finished 32nd at the national championships :eek: he worked hard on his form and gave it his all when it mattered the most, at world championships. :) This is his first Olympic or championship medal in the classic discipline, being considered a specialist in free-style, so all the more reason to celebrate. :bounce:

And he shares the podium with two other Norwegians, including my second fave Frode Estil. :D Today was definitely a good day sports-wise. I was screaming my head off during the last 15 km or so and thoroughly enjoyed this exciting race. It couldn't have ended any better than this.

The Norwegian king and queen were present on the day their racers had a clean sweep of the medals. Perfect timing. :p Incidently, the Norwegians are having their worst season ever, but this more than makes up for it.

Here are some pics of the new champion from today's race. :hearts:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030219/capt.1045657452nordic_ski_world_champs_val111.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030219/capt.1045653485nordic_ski_world_champs_val104.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030219/capt.1045654929nordic_ski_world_champs_val108.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030219/capt.1045654936nordic_ski_world_champs_val109.jpg

maratski
02-19-2003, 12:17 PM
On the 1st days prices vary from €23 till € 43

€ 43 is center court plus outside courts and € 23 is court 1 and the outside courts.

There are also cheaper tickets for center court, but I just mentioned the price for a good seat. The prices are on www.fft.fr under RG.

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 12:18 PM
Vaiva, where are you from? orry but I don't recognize your flag at all. If i'll find out how much they cost i'll let you know. I was in Gstaad last summer and paid around US$30 for a day ticket, but this was the early rounds. And it's not a Grand Slam tournament.

vaiva
02-19-2003, 12:22 PM
Layla! :wavey:

I felt a bit sorry for Veerpalu because he was leading at something 5 km left to ski and seemed in perfect control of the race but then came the 3 Norvegians and used great tactics to deprive him of the lead and never let a slightest space for him to challenge for the medals.

And thanks for these great pics :hearts:

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 12:22 PM
Sorry... ;)

Hi, Layla! :wavey:

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:22 PM
:wavey:

cant stay long but thought Id pop in :D

vaiva
02-19-2003, 12:26 PM
Mrs B. I'm from Lithuania, ex-Soviet republic. Our standard of living is not the same as in Western European states yet so 43 euros just for the ticket is some amount for me, although not unaffordable ;).

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:28 PM
sorry about your accident Lee :(

and everybody wants to get a piece of my Finn!:eek: :p Mine ;)

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 12:30 PM
:wavey: Emma! :D

can't stay long either, got a visitor coming and i still have to clean my kitchen, bake, then shower...

catch u later 2night guys, but it's sooo slow here esp. in the evenings. does anybody know why? Roger's forum doesn't seem to have this prob.

Tschuss! :wavey:

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:32 PM
Hi and bye then Mrs.B!:wavey:

Sometimes it does seem to be slow but then other times I can get in.I can get into Rogis no problem.

Layla
02-19-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by vaiva
Layla! :wavey:

I felt a bit sorry for Veerpalu because he was leading at something 5 km left to ski and seemed in perfect control of the race but then came the 3 Norvegians and used great tactics to deprive him of the lead and never let a slightest space for him to challenge for the medals.

And thanks for these great pics :hearts:

Yeah, I felt sorry for Veerpalu as well, but I adore my Norwegians :hearts: so I wasn't complaining. But you know how it is, a lead is never a guaranty. The lead changed so many times in this race and at one point it seemed as if Fredriksson was headed for victory (I don't feel sorry for him ;) ). I think Veerpalu broke clear too early and couldn't hold on.

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Legolas
I asked Dominik a few questions, but he answered just one queston. That was if he did like lord of the rings, and he does :D :D :D I really had to ask, because we talked the whole time about lotr at school.

LOL, Yvonne! :D ;)

maratski
02-19-2003, 12:38 PM
Bye Mrs. B :wavey:

Layla
02-19-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
:wavey: Emma! :D

can't stay long either, got a visitor coming and i still have to clean my kitchen, bake, then shower...

catch u later 2night guys, but it's sooo slow here esp. in the evenings. does anybody know why? Roger's forum doesn't seem to have this prob.

Tschuss! :wavey:

I have this problem as well. It's really difficult to get into the thread, but once you're in, it usually becomes faster. :confused: Maybe it's because the thread is sooooo long, it takes ages to load so the problem is bound to get worse. Maybe we'll have to start a new thread altogether.

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 12:44 PM
:wavey: Layla! :)

maratski
02-19-2003, 12:46 PM
Marat is about to start. I'm excited and hope he wins in straight sets.

Layla
02-19-2003, 12:47 PM
Allan, I hear you're making great progress learning a new language. :) How do you say congratulations again? I think you mentioned it but I forgot. I like to use that word as often as I can. ;)

ILR
02-19-2003, 12:47 PM
well bye again everyone!Im off with my friends now :wavey:

vaiva
02-19-2003, 12:48 PM
Marat's match started. Have to leave you guys and concentrate on the scoreboard :D

Talk later :wavey:

Layla
02-19-2003, 12:50 PM
Oh, I didn't realize Marat was playing against Malisse. :eek:

GO MARAT! Make your fans proud!

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 12:53 PM
:wavey: ILR and vaiva!

Allan, I hear you're making great progress learning a new language. :) How do you say congratulations again? I think you mentioned it but I forgot. I like to use that word as often as I can. ;)

Thanks, Layla! *blush* :) I'll have to go look it up, those phrases that I posted ages ago were actually in Quenya, whereas what I'm learning now is Sindarin...I've not had to use 'congratulations' in Sindarin yet...

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 01:02 PM
No direct translation in my dictionary for 'congratulations', but

Praise! (Imperative) - Eglerio!
Well done - Mae coren

How are you today? Is your workload still pretty heavy?

Layla
02-19-2003, 01:10 PM
Thanks for those expressions Allan. :)

I'm feeling great at the moment because as I mentioned my cross-country love won the gold medal at the championships today. :D

Other than that, not so good. My workload is surprisingly light today, because I was supposed to get another text but it's not ready yet. Of course that only means that I'll have to do it in double-quick time when I finally do get it, because the deadline is the same. :rolleyes: But I can write horoscopes for next week, so I get at least part of them out of the way, so that's what I'm doing at the moment.

I'll have to work extremely hard every day until April 1st. No breaks until then.

maratski
02-19-2003, 01:10 PM
:wavey: I'm also off to watch the scoreboard

Layla
02-19-2003, 01:10 PM
How about you? Have you started teaching yet?

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Layla
Of course that only means that I'll have to do it in double-quick time when I finally do get it, because the deadline is the same. :rolleyes:

Pff... that's not very nice of them :(... them giving you the documents late is beyond your control...


But I can write horoscopes for next week, so I get at least part of them out of the way, so that's what I'm doing at the moment.


I've been meaning to ask you this...who do you write horoscopes for? Are they hard to do?


I'll have to work extremely hard every day until April 1st. No breaks until then.

:( But wow, I'm sure you'll be really happy come April 1st! What sorts of things are you planning to do during your well-deserved break?

Me? I'm fine... procrastinating from work again..:o I shouldn't be, since I'm behind schedule.. but I'll just stay and chat for a bit while m food is in the oven...

Besides that... a bit stressed though... I have to get all sorts of things done for my permanent res. application here... I've getting the Higher Degrees people to write a letter saying that I've completed all MY requirements for my PhD. (Heck, I did everything I had to do by the end of Jan... but the committees that rubberstamp the PhDs do not meet till March 20, and my visa expires March 15... go figure :rolleyes: ) Gotta go for a medical and X-ray on Tuesday :rolleyes: ....send off various things to get my qualifications certified (yes, I still have to do this, even though I've gotten ALL my degrees in Australia :rolleyes: ) ... and organize police clearances both from here and Malaysia.....blah.

Teaching starts in about 2-3 weeks...

Layla
02-19-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Peedy

I've been meaning to ask you this...who do you write horoscopes for? Are they hard to do?

I write them for a cell-phone company which is hard to believe since every horoscope has to be around 550 characters long (with breaks). Multiply that with 12 and then with 3, because I have to write love, business and chinese horoscopes, and that's how much I have to produce every week. So yes, it's getting harder and harder, because I've been doing this a year and a half and I'm running out of ideas. I've already written aroun 2800 individual horoscopes. :eek: But otherwise they shouldn't be too difficult. They are just silly weekly horoscopes. I'm actually a very serious studen of astrology, I've studied it for over 10 years, so this stuff is really a blasphemy, but it does pay the bills. :p Of course most of it is crap, especially the chinese horoscopes, because Chinese astrology doesn't take into account the movement of planets. For western horoscopes I do try to follow the movement of the planets as much as I can, especially the moon, so I rarely write complete bullshit, but on the other hand, I can't repeat myself too much in the same week, even though the general conditions are similar for all signs. The problem is, I lack a sense of humor when I speak in Slovene, so I can't be nearly as creative as I would have been if I wrote them in English. :(

:( But wow, I'm sure you'll be really happy come April 1st! What sorts of things are you planning to do during your well-deserved break?

Well, it won't be a real break, it will only get slightly easier. Remember, I still have to produce horoscopes every week and that takes at least 3 days of work, depending on my inspiration. If I wanted a real break I have to write them in advance, meaning two sets per week instead of one, which is what I intend to do for Roland Garros. But otherwise I'm just looking forward to an opportunity to go for a nice walk in the sunshine, and by that time I'll be able to go for a bike ride as well. Go to the movies, watch some tennis, basic stuff like that. Nothing grand until I go to Ireland at the end of June. :)

Besides that... a bit stressed though... I have to get all sorts of things done for my permanent res. application here... I've getting the Higher Degrees people to write a letter saying that I've completed all MY requirements for my PhD. (Heck, I did everything I had to do by the end of Jan... but the committees that rubberstamp the PhDs do not meet till March 20, and my visa expires March 15... go figure :rolleyes: ) Gotta go for a medical and X-ray on Tuesday :rolleyes: ....send off various things to get my qualifications certified (yes, I still have to do this, even though I've gotten ALL my degrees in Australia :rolleyes: ) ... and organize police clearances both from here and Malaysia.....blah.

Teaching starts in about 2-3 weeks...

Argh, that sounds horrible! :fiery: I know about birocracy, I have foreign friends here who are having even more problems just acquiring a work permit in Slovenia. And of course my eternal dream of being able to get a green card in the States or at least a work permit. I hate the fact that these things have to be so complicated, and they are further complicted by incompetent birocrats who tend to make your life a living hell. :( But I really don't see why you should get your qualifications certified. :confused: That is just utter stupidity. I hope you manage to get all the papers in order without too much trouble. How long will your next visa last then?

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 01:51 PM
:wavey: Good morning!

I see this place was hopping last night and early today :eek: LOL, I only have time to write one post before I'm off to the salt mines ;)

First of all, I'm glad the disgusting stories time seems to have passed. It's not that I can't handle blood or other various sundry bodily fluids, but the details that some go into, with such relish, can make it hard to stomach. Rebecca, have you ever considered being an English major? ;)

LMAO at ILR -- everybody wants a piece of your Finn, eh? He is yummy, but I have my own beauty from Scandinavia so I'll withdraw my request for a kiss (though that IS how the musical started . . . .)

To everyone having problems loading the thread: indeed, it probably is the length of the thread if you're only having problems here. But for me, the whole board is moving slowly, trying to get from one forum to another. And I think we're still several thousand posts away from having to start a new thread, but if someone wants to do it, be my guest :)

Many many congrats on your Norweigian sweep, Layla & Vaiva :) It's always heartwarming when something good like that happens, in the middle of a down season. Maybe this is the turning point for them :)

*hug* Hope my fellow stressed people are hanging in there. I've got to make it through the next few weeks before my break comes (first of March), and then the REAL workload begins :rolleyes: But I did have some good news this morning -- there was hot water, so I was able to take a nice hot shower for the first time since the weekend! I don't think I've ever been so glad to be clean, LOL.

Well, I must be off now. See you guys later! :wavey:

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Layla
I have this problem as well. It's really difficult to get into the thread, but once you're in, it usually becomes faster. :confused: Maybe it's because the thread is sooooo long, it takes ages to load so the problem is bound to get worse. Maybe we'll have to start a new thread altogether.

It's up to Becca. She can do an Abracadabra II. Maybe that would help...:confused:

really going, catch u later (if i can get in easily)...

:wavey: Hackie! :), Allan (is there an Elvish translation for my name with just the initials, Mrs. B?, just curious) ... ;)

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 02:01 PM
2800 individual horoscopes x 550 characters = :eek: :eek: :eek:

But good to hear you're going to Ireland in June! :D I have friends of Irish descent who went to Ireland several years back, and the pictures they brought back were breathtaking! :D

What I'm applying for right now is kinda a bridging visa, which will last for about 6 months, but give me full working rights in the meanwhile...during this 6 month period, I must then prepare my full application for a permanent visa.

:wavey: Mrs B. :) well... I don't think there's a way I could translate 'Mrs. B'.... but there are several ways of getting an Elvish name:

1) find a 'name generator' on the web... I think www.barrowdowns.com may have one, but am not 100% sure. This is fast and easy, what they basically do is just use your name to cook up something semi-random.

2) check the following page: http://www.elvish.org/elm/names.html
They 'translate' (based on the meaning of your name) quite a few common names into Quenya.

3) explore other etymological details about your name (using www.behindthename.com ) and using that and a Sindarin / Quenya dictionary, come up with something.... but this is hard...

vaiva
02-19-2003, 02:04 PM
Ahhh, the good day continues :)

Marat's comeback was successful and he beat the mysterious X-man 7-5 6-3 ;)

Next he'll play Zhenia :mad:

Layla
02-19-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack

To everyone having problems loading the thread: indeed, it probably is the length of the thread if you're only having problems here. But for me, the whole board is moving slowly, trying to get from one forum to another. And I think we're still several thousand posts away from having to start a new thread, but if someone wants to do it, be my guest :)

Hi TH! :wavey:

Indeed, sometimes the whole board is a bit slow, but I do find it easier to get into forums with less posts than into this one. Still, you're probably right. It's not the length of the thread and a new one wouldnt've helped.

*hug* Hope my fellow stressed people are hanging in there. I've got to make it through the next few weeks before my break comes (first of March), and then the REAL workload begins :rolleyes: But I did have some good news this morning -- there was hot water, so I was able to take a nice hot shower for the first time since the weekend! I don't think I've ever been so glad to be clean, LOL.

Well, I must be off now. See you guys later! :wavey: [/B]

*hug* How long is your first break? Just hand in there, you've only got around 10 days left. :) I'm glad the hot water is back. It's a nightmare having to shower in cold water in the middle of the winter. :eek: I don't think it's absolutely necessary to shower every day and still maintain a satisfactory degree of cleanliness. I mean you can still wash all the relevant parts over the sink, such as the armpits or the feet. I even read an article maintaining that showering every day is really bad for your skin, so I wouldn't exactly consider you dirty if you skip a shower for a day or two. ;)

I think washing the hair in cold water is absolutely the worst. I tried it before and my brain nearly froze. So if it was absolutely necessary, I would boil the water first and create an acceptable mix, then have someone pour it over my head.

Anyway, have a good day! :wavey:

Layla
02-19-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by vaiva
Ahhh, the good day continues :)

Marat's comeback was successful and he beat the mysterious X-man 7-5 6-3 ;)

Next he'll play Zhenia :mad:

Yay for Marat! He sent Sleek Malisse packing! :D

Too bad he has to play Zhenya, but that way one of them will progress into QF. That might be a great match by the way. :)

Puss-in-Boots
02-19-2003, 02:42 PM
Just finished eating...now I have to be off :sad:

:wavey: everyone! I hope you all have a great day!

Layla
02-19-2003, 02:46 PM
Bye Allan! :wavey:

Have a fabulous day yourself! :)

And I must be off as well. :wavey:

Layla
02-19-2003, 02:47 PM
Just wanted to add, I'm sorry you had such an awful day Lee. :( *hugs* Hope you were able to put it behind you and that your migraine went away.

maratski
02-19-2003, 02:57 PM
That was a nice win for Marat. I'm off now :wavey:

I actually have work to do :D

Layla
02-19-2003, 03:14 PM
Came back because I realized I forgot to express how happy I am that Dissident is back with us and he managed to save most of his files. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I missed you Diss! :kiss:

But I'm really sorry you had to pay such an exorbitant amount of money. :eek: That's daylight robbery. :(

Anyway, glad you're back. :)

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Ilhame, there is a photo of the two of them dancing floating around the web somewhere. I'm too lazy to dig it up, but maybe somebody else will later ;)

Yep, I have it for you:

[blech... reading all your yukky stories...]

And, hooray for Marat!!!

Rogi, pls win! ;)

ILR
02-19-2003, 06:15 PM
:wavey:

Hi again :D its 3-2 Enqvist at this point but scoreboard has stuck for me :mad: pffft.Anyway Hackie I suppose Id let you have a kiss but like you said you have your own Scandanavian snd I have mine ;)

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Layla
*hug* How long is your first break? Just hand in there, you've only got around 10 days left. :) I'm glad the hot water is back. It's a nightmare having to shower in cold water in the middle of the winter. :eek: I don't think it's absolutely necessary to shower every day and still maintain a satisfactory degree of cleanliness. I mean you can still wash all the relevant parts over the sink, such as the armpits or the feet. I even read an article maintaining that showering every day is really bad for your skin, so I wouldn't exactly consider you dirty if you skip a shower for a day or two. ;)

I think washing the hair in cold water is absolutely the worst. I tried it before and my brain nearly froze. So if it was absolutely necessary, I would boil the water first and create an acceptable mix, then have someone pour it over my head.

Anyway, have a good day! :wavey:

My spring break is two weeks, then I come back to the last two and a half months of the semester, solid work. Hell, I have solid work from now until next weekend, and I feel my brain is about to explode :(

Indeed, it's not necessary, or even good for you, to take a shower everyday, it's just of personal relevance, I think. I feel absolutely disgusting if I can't shower everyday, but in reality I probably wasn't that dirty, especially since I did the glorified sponge bath thing for two days. But my hair is naturally oily (as is my skin, good ol' Italian genes) and it looks like a greasepit if I can't wash it everyday. That was the worst part.

In fact, I have only become super cleanly and germophobic within the last few years. As a kid I would happily play in the mud and grudgingly take a bath and would go for days without bathing. I think it's all part of being a kid, though, and when my personal neuroses developed as I developed, so did this one about showering.

ILR
02-19-2003, 07:32 PM
:wavey: Hackie

I have to wash my hair everyday otherwise I look like a greaseball and its not a pretty sight.A friend of mine can get away with not washing hers for 4 days and it still looks OK.Lifes not fair :p

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:38 PM
:wavey: ILR.

Yeah, I know, I have friends like that, too ;)

How's Roger doing?

ILR
02-19-2003, 07:41 PM
he beat Enqvist 6-3 3-6 6-4 :D made hard wrk of it though!

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 07:44 PM
Well, Enqvist makes it hard work - that's Roger's first win in 4 matches against him, and after the way that Enqvist comprehensively took him apart in Indian Wells last year it's a good job that he's finally broken his duck against him (now if only it could be the same with Nalbandian...).

Federer's now on an 8-match winning streak in singles, but he's up against Santoro next round, who out-thought him last time they played in Madrid. Another revenge please, Rogi?

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:45 PM
Wow, that was a tough match, but a good win! Enqvist is no pushover indoors.

LOL, everyone's heralding Escude's blowout of Costa as an "upset" :rolleyes: Now we KNOW journalists who write about tennis don't exactly have to knowledgable ;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Wow, that was a tough match, but a good win! Enqvist is no pushover indoors.

LOL, everyone's heralding Escude's blowout of Costa as an "upset" :rolleyes: Now we KNOW journalists who write about tennis don't exactly have to knowledgable ;)

Since Escude pulled out from his last tourney due to injury, I was worried that he might have difficulty in his first match in Rotterdam. If Escude had lost to Costa, that would have been down right embarrassing for Nico.

BTW, hi everyone :wavey:

ILR
02-19-2003, 07:50 PM
It sounds like a tough match and its good for his mental state to have won from 1 set down :)

yeah I remember watching first set off Rogi Santoro in Madrid,well at home :p before I went out and then when I came back in he had lost :( please revenge :D

So you dont need knowledge to be a journalism?:p

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 07:50 PM
Some people just look at the seedings, not the form book I guess... although it's ironic that they've now played three indoor matches and despite Escude winning them all, the first two went to three sets and proved to be tough contests. In fact, I remember reading on the ATP website that when they played in Moscow, Costa was serving at 5-3, 40-0 in the first set and Escude broke back and won the set on the tiebreak - I'm telling you, he's the King of Comebacks, especially here in Rotterdam.

ILR
02-19-2003, 07:50 PM
:wavey: Hi Vera

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:51 PM
:wavey: Vera!

Well, since Costa's the #4 seed and all . . .:rolleyes:

Heh. Sorry, not in a very talkative mood today.

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:55 PM
Pursing the picture galleries . . .

Tatiana Panova & Dinara Safina
http://www.wtatour.com/assets/story_image/PanovaSafina021803.gif

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:56 PM
For Leo ;)

Iroda Tulyaganova & Lina Krasnarutskaya
http://www.wtatour.com/assets/story_image/IrodaLina021803.gif

Vera
02-19-2003, 07:58 PM
In between those "very amusing" vomitting and burn stories Becca, Vaiva and Ilhame provided, I managed to spot that Vancouver story Becca posted. Yep, the Olympic Plebiscite will be held in this saturday. Even though there's a lot of high profile supporters, but I can't tell what's the opinion of the general public so I hope it will turn out to be desirable. But based on the history of this province, the unions and all, this is not a city that's receptive to change. So who knows. Yep, I'm a proud supporter of the Bid :).

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 07:58 PM
How's THIS for a wedding present?! From the shiek of the United Arab Emirates? :eek:

http://www.wtatour.com/assets/story_image/JustineGift021803.gif

Vera
02-19-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi

So you dont need knowledge to be a journalism?:p

No Emma, we are counting on you to revolutionalize the journalism world, to make it more respectable :) .

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 08:04 PM
I saw a clip of that on Eurosport earlier today; with inspired wit, the commentator mentioned that if Justine did well in Dubai, "that box won't be the only shiny object she'll be taking away from here." What an ingenious pun.

ILR
02-19-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Vera
No Emma, we are counting on you to revolutionalize the journalism world, to make it more respectable :) .

I hope so Vera,then that will trigger me off into presenting aswell ;) I shall be doing about journalism in my media studies college course and plan to get involved writing for the college magazine :)

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 08:07 PM
:wavey:

Sjengster, you would make a good tennis journalist (if you're not already one), you write so well and you know so much about the game and the players.

Hi, Vera! Long time no "chat". :D How are you?

ILR
02-19-2003, 08:10 PM
I was thinking if I do journalism I would go more to the football side of things because well I do know more about that and it is my first love but closely followed by the tennis ;) Of course I could write about Rogis matches ;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
:wavey:
Hi, Vera! Long time no "chat". :D How are you?

Hi Mrs. B :wavey:. Ya, been awhile, eh!

I'm fine, how bout yourself, enjoying the cold at home? So, any pics to show us the Phillippines?

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:13 PM
I'd read anything ILR or Sjengster published about tennis, and desperately try to emulate them on my site ;)

ILR, I hope you do have success in this chosen field, that you will let me crash in your swanky pad while I'm still a starving graduate student, and that you can get special press passes "behind the scenes" ;)

ILR
02-19-2003, 08:16 PM
aww thanks Hackie :)a swanky pad I wish!:o:p Sure you could crash :D you'd be very welcome too.And Id try and get you behind the scene passes to wherever you want ;)

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Sjengster, you would make a good tennis journalist (if you're not already one), you write so well and you know so much about the game and the players.

Thanks for the compliment Mrs. B, but I just listen and learn, you know... seriously though, I knew absolutely nothing about tennis outside of Wimbledon a couple of years ago (like most of the British public, I suppose :rolleyes: ) and it was only when I accidentally caught the first week of Roland Garros 2001 on Eurosport that I started to get into it.

And if you've ever heard as much "studio analysis" as I have from the presenters on Sky Sports, who cover the Masters Series, US Open and Davis Cup, then you'd probably know all the facts and figures about the players so well you could recite them off by heart! Sometimes they get stuck repeating a lot of tired cliches, but fortunately they don't focus on the British players to quite the extent that US TV seems to dwell on the American ones, if the complaints on here are anything to go by.

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Vera

I'm fine, how bout yourself, enjoying the cold at home? So, any pics to show us the Phillippines?

I'm cool (as in cold). ;) We're watching the FCB-La Coruña match and those 29,000 fans are freezing their butts off that they're all bouncing in unison to keep warm. It's -6C outside!

I'm dependent on hubby to put our pics on the net and he's pretty busy at the moment so you have to be patient, but i'll share them with u guys as soon as i have them. :)

Hackie, Iroda T. could be Iva Majoli's sister! :eek: and i've said it before, you'd make a good sports journalist yourself.

Vera
02-19-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
I'm cool (as in cold). ;) We're watching the FCB-La Coruña match and those 29,000 fans are freezing their butts off that they're all bouncing in unison to keep warm. It's -6C outside!


Wow, that's cold indeed. I'm always amazed how these players run in snow, that's quite a bit of NFL football game that I saw (on highlight reel) that they played on a snow-covered field. And I wonder how come I always slip when slow-walking on a snow day :rolleyes: .

BTW, we are so warm here and ppl now worry what if we got to hold the Winter Olympics here and there's no snow, how ironic. But in fact, the fact that we have such a warm winter this year is probably gonna affect our chance in the bid :(.

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Sjengster
but fortunately they don't focus on the British players to quite the extent that US TV seems to dwell on the American ones, if the complaints on here are anything to go by.

Several of us want to do a switch. We in the States (and Canada ;)) want to see some Eurosport coverage and you guys in Europe can see our drek ESPN coverage. I think it's the only way to truly understand the horror.

I'd gladly send anybody a tape but unfortunately it seems the North American & European systems aren't compatiable. So I guess the only thing to do is order a tennis tape that you know is from ESPN (like, for example, Roma 2001 final from Sports Resources (http://www.users.bigpond.com/tennisvideos1/)). Leo said the commentating was so horrible that he had to mute it to watch the match.

But if you really want to see ESPN, you have to get a match with PMac & Cliffy. For some reason there don't seem to be too many tapes with them floating around out there . . . .

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Hackie, Iroda T. could be Iva Majoli's sister! :eek: and i've said it before, you'd make a good sports journalist yourself.

Hmm . . .

http://www.wtatour.com/assets/personnel_image/mug225.jpghttp://www.wtatour.com/assets/personnel_image/mug129.jpg

Granted, not the best picture of Iva, but I can see some resemblence. And I'm really horrible at seeing such things. People ask me if I look more like my mother or my father, and I couldn't tell them. The only time I can pick out family resemblences is if they're very strong, like a nose or something.

And thanks for the compliment, I just try to Hack away as best I can ;)

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 08:36 PM
Yes, I have heard fragments of some US commentators on TV before - it took me by surprise because some of the things they were saying seemed a little, how can I put it, blindingly obvious to the casual viewer...

Having said that, Sky have got one American on their commentary team too, an ex-player named Leif Shiras (I'll bet he's a household name in the annals of American tennis, right?). The others all poke a little bit of fun at him, and sometimes he doesn't seem to have a clue what he's talking about, but he's always enthusiastic and knowledgeable.

Plus - and it's a pretty big plus, really - their big studio guest is Peter Fleming, ex-doubles partner to John McEnroe, who now that he's settled in Britain seems to be roped into every tennis programme around. It's quite funny, actually, as he frequently browbeats the rather moronic host into the ground whenever they're talking about matches, and he can get quite frighteningly intense at times. Still, good to know they're taking it seriously, right?

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 08:36 PM
:) Hi everyone!!

Thanks, Sjengster, for answering my query re: Rogi/Thomas h-t-h.

I find it interesting what these different tournaments present to the players, or have them do, i.e., dress up in trad costumes, which I love! It's good for them to open up their minds to the world -- helps them understand each other better. Good for public relations! [who needs politics?]

The pix of the girls in Dubai looked like a veritable harem!

As for Eurosport vs. ESPN: I had a chance to view a tiny bit of Eurosport in Spain but I would love the watch it on a regular basis -- impossible here though when there's less and less tennis coverage as there is. We used to get just the Eurosport news once or twice a week on the Telelatino channel [Spanish and Italian channel] but I imagine it got too expensive to continue... besides, if the Italians want calcio matches and scores, there are plenty of programmi that show them, not just on TLN.

What's the oop for tomorrow?? Juanqui's up I guess plus Rogi/max dbles? ;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
But if you really want to see ESPN, you have to get a match with PMac & Cliffy. For some reason there don't seem to be too many tapes with them floating around out there . . . .

Try watch a Pandy or Baldy match, then you could truly appreciated how blessed the European viewers are, and how damned we North Americans were, are and will be.

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Sjengster
Having said that, Sky have got one American on their commentary team too, an ex-player named Leif Shiras (I'll bet he's a household name in the annals of American tennis, right?). The others all poke a little bit of fun at him, and sometimes he doesn't seem to have a clue what he's talking about, but he's always enthusiastic and knowledgeable.

LOL, oh yes. Right up there with Sampras and Agassi, is Shiras.

But -- "doesn't seem to have a clue" yet is "enthusiastic & knowledgeable"? :confused:

It's quite funny, actually, as he frequently browbeats the rather moronic host into the ground whenever they're talking about matches, and he can get quite frighteningly intense at times. Still, good to know they're taking it seriously, right?

Oh, man, I bet that's funny stuff!! I wish somebody would do that to PMac. He's such a pompous windbag :fiery::rolleyes: Cliffy was starting to do that a bit last year at the Masters Cup (oh, how I fear & dread this year's Cup, on American turf . . . . ESPECIALLY if Roddick --horror of horrors -- makes it). Just need someone to cut him down to size a few times, embarrassingly and on air.

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 08:43 PM
Ah, but isn't your salvation supposed to arrive soon in the form of the Tennis Channel? I gather that was to be launched in the US at least, if not Canada, and even if it is successful then it won't arrive here in Europe for months, and then only with limited access on cable.

It sounds like a pretty good format to me - news, features, interviews, coaching tips, and apparently reruns of classic matches too.

Oh, and TennisHack - I reread what I had written and realised that I contradicted myself a bit, but I get the feeling that Shiras does have a good knowledge about the game deep down; it's just that he can get a little mixed up when he's talking about it, lol. And I wish he and all other American commentators would stop pronouncing Ljubicic as "Ljubi-chick", but I guess that's just a language thing, right? :)

Vera
02-19-2003, 08:44 PM
Does anyone notice that the ATP site has Memphis on it's headline for the past 3-4 days. Last time I checked, Rotterdam is a bigger tourney with more Top 10 players, and most of the 32 players are top 50s. Granted, they are only Europeans :rolleyes:, eventhough ATP and tennis is "supposed" to be global!

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
...(oh, how I fear & dread this year's Cup, on American turf . . . . ESPECIALLY if Roddick --horror of horrors -- makes it). Just need someone to cut him down to size a few times, embarrassingly and on air.

I share that same fear with you, Hackie!!! I can see it now! Well, we already know Baldy will be there [shudder]... I was looking at my latest French tennis mag and remarked on how gangly and awkward Pandy always looks... not just his body, but his contorted facial expressions... :rolleyes: rather amusing...:p

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:45 PM
Order of Play in Rotterdam -- Thursday February 20th 2003

Centre Court, 11.00
Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) - Jonas Björkman (SWE)
Centre Court, not before 13.00
Raemon Sluiter (NED) - Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)
Centre Court, followed by
Fabrice Santoro (FRA) - Roger Federer (SUI)
Centre Court, followed by 19.30
Nicolas Escudé (FRA) - Richard Krajicek (NED)
Centre Court, not before 21.15
Yevgeny Kafelnikov (RUS) - Marat Safin (RUS)

Court 1, 12.00 noon
Dominik Hrbaty (SVK) - Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)
Court 1, followed by
Ivan Ljublicic (CRO) - Max Mirnyi (BLR)

Centre Court of Court 1, not before 4.00 PM
Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)/Nenad Zimonjic (YUG) - Wayne Arthurs/Paul Hanley (AUS)
Centre Court of Court 1, not before 4.00 PM
Alex Corretja/Albert Costa (ESP) - Roger Federer (SUI)/Max Mirnyi (BLR)

Lee
02-19-2003, 08:47 PM
Hi everyone! :wavey:

ILR
02-19-2003, 08:48 PM
Hi Lee :wavey:

Vera
02-19-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by RogiFan
I share that same fear with you, Hackie!!! I can see it now! Well, we already know Baldy will be there [shudder]... I was looking at my latest French tennis mag and remarked on how gangly and awkward Pandy always looks... not just his body, but his contorted facial expressions... :rolleyes: rather amusing...:p

I realized the implication since Houston bought the right for TWO years. Gosh, Pandy is surely happy about that, he has 2 years to get to Houston, would be great if he couldn't make it this year. I would hate to see my limited coverage overwhelmed by Pandy and Baldy.

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 08:50 PM
LOL @ Hackie's long lost sibblings! Better than Wertheim's. ;)

We don't get Sky here in Switzerland but i'm happy with Eurosport's tennis commentators---McMillan, Mercer. These old guards are pretty objective altho they back up Tim when he's playing; still, it's not too obvious as their US counterparts when Pandy or Baldy are on...but i'd like to see an ESPN match one time just to satisfy my curiosity. When i was in the Philippines i saw the marathon Roddick-El Anayoui match on Star Sports and it was an Aussie guy (didn't get his name) and he did a good job.

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Does anyone notice that the ATP site has Memphis on it's headline for the past 3-4 days. Last time I checked, Rotterdam is a bigger tourney with more Top 10 players, and most of the 32 players are top 50s. Granted, they are only Europeans :rolleyes:, eventhough ATP and tennis is "supposed" to be global!

Very interesting observation, Vera!!

I think Escude was complaining last year about the ATP being an American mafia or words to that effect!! He may be right!

Tennis is definitely NOT global in N America... I'd like to know if it is elsewhere. Yep, frustrating, to say the least... and w AA winning tournaments, guess who will be featured on our TVs each tournament? You got it, same as last year! :mad:

Lee
02-19-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Wow, that's cold indeed. I'm always amazed how these players run in snow, that's quite a bit of NFL football game that I saw (on highlight reel) that they played on a snow-covered field. And I wonder how come I always slip when slow-walking on a snow day :rolleyes: .

BTW, we are so warm here and ppl now worry what if we got to hold the Winter Olympics here and there's no snow, how ironic. But in fact, the fact that we have such a warm winter this year is probably gonna affect our chance in the bid :(.

Vera, now I'm sure you hardly watch CFL. :D :D

The year that Calgary host the Winter Olympic, it was very warm too. There were no snow at all in the city and very windy which affect those ski jumps, luge, etc programs which were run in the Olympic Parks in the city.

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Sjengster
Ah, but isn't your salvation supposed to arrive soon in the form of the Tennis Channel? I gather that was to be launched in the US at least, if not Canada, and even if it is successful then it won't arrive here in Europe for months, and then only with limited access on cable.

Oh, PLEASE!! You don't think that's actually going to happen, do you? It would be my salvation but that would be too easy.

The Tennis Channel is only supposed to start in 38% of homes, whereas ESPN has 85% coverage. They have only inked deals with a few caple companies (not mine, of course).

And if TC takes away coverage from ESPN, it's going to fuck more people over than help them.


And I wish he and all other American commentators would stop pronouncing Ljubicic as "Ljubi-chick", but I guess that's just a language thing, right? :)

It's a language thing. That's the normal English way to pronounce a "cic" syllable. But if he knows -- if someone's told him that it's "chich", not "chick" -- then that's just stupidity. Also an overwhelmingly American trait :rolleyes:

ILR
02-19-2003, 08:58 PM
I might head off for a bit forum is very slow for me and a few things to do.Might check back later :) :wavey:

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 08:59 PM
Hmm, I guess people still reckon tennis is too much of an elitist, specialist sport to get mainstream coverage. After all, all the Sky Sports coverage I mentioned is only available on a digital channel that you have to pay extra for, and the BBC basically covers just Queens, Wimbledon and the Davis Cup (only GB ties of course - anything else would be unthinkable, wouldn't it?).

TennisHack
02-19-2003, 08:59 PM
The board is moving horribly slow for me, so I'll come back to answer the rest of you guys' posts later :( :rolleyes:

See you, as I'm off to dinner! :wavey:

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Vera
I realized the implication since Houston bought the right for TWO years. Gosh, Pandy is surely happy about that, he has 2 years to get to Houston, would be great if he couldn't make it this year. I would hate to see my limited coverage overwhelmed by Pandy and Baldy.

What a thought, Vera! :eek: Should I book my vacation for that week now?

Hackie, that doubles match tomorrow: Rogi/Max vs. Alex/Albert!!! Ay ay ay!! Who to cheer for? :p

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 09:02 PM
Schalken won over Rochus! 7-5 6-2

Well done Sjeng!

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 09:07 PM
Excellent result! The Sjengster completes a Rochus double, and he's finally put up a decent showing in Rotterdam in front of his home fans. Now if he plays Santoro in the quarters, I know exactly who to support - and if it's Roger, well, I think I might hope for a Schalken revenge after the Davis Cup, which was after all also in Holland...

Vera
02-19-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Lee
Vera, now I'm sure you hardly watch CFL. :D :D

The year that Calgary host the Winter Olympic, it was very warm too. There were no snow at all in the city and very windy which affect those ski jumps, luge, etc programs which were run in the Olympic Parks in the city.

Oh yeah, were you there when Calgary hosted? So what did they do, they just compete on faked one?

It actually is great if there's no snow in Vancouver, bcos the city only hosted indoors like Hockey :D and stuffs. And snow day in Vancouver is nothing but headache. Yep, believe it or not, we're not use to it, and considering our pathetically small snow plow budget, it's a blessing when the weather is warm, and sunny :D.

More importantly is whether there's enough snow in Whistler where all the skiing competitions hold. I haven't check the condition in Whistler but I think they barely managed to get enough this year. Though, Blackcomb were ranked #1 a few years back and has good snow condition most of the time, and that it's a gorgeous ski town.

Lee
02-19-2003, 09:09 PM
Hi Mrs. B! Finally we are both here :D :D

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:09 PM
hooray for Sjeng! the Rochus brothers were no match for him in the first two rounds. :bounce:

am i the only one worried about Jonas Bjorkman tomorrow? Juanqui is in for a real battle methinks.

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:11 PM
:wavey: Mrs. B!! it's been so long since we last talked. :eek:

Vera
02-19-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by RogiFan
What a thought, Vera! :eek: Should I book my vacation for that week now?


That's an idea! Definitely be more fun than watching Baldy and Pandy, don't you think? Hey, you should just fly into a spanish city and get ready for the Davis Cup final :D .

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Lee
Hi Mrs. B! Finally we are both here :D :D

Hi, Lee! :wavey:

How are you?

Hi, Leo! :wavey: any more snow to shovel? ;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
hooray for Sjeng! the Rochus brothers were no match for him in the first two rounds. :bounce:

am i the only one worried about Jonas Bjorkman tomorrow? Juanqui is in for a real battle methinks.

Me too. Bjorkman played so well in the last couple of weeks and he's always dangerous. I hope Juanqui can get pass him. Just hoping that Bjorkman may be a little tired with so much plays so far.

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:15 PM
look at this funny pic :D

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/ARE103021812_1024x768.jpg

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 09:16 PM
:) Hey, Lee!

Sorry to hear about your car... just what you need, eh? Terrible!

Blackcomb... I've been there -- stayed overnight at a friend's chalet -- Whistler is for those w money! In the summer, it's all luxury golf clubs!

Wow, Schalken through already??

As for Juanqui vs. Bjorkman: I think he shouldn't have too much trouble beating him. It's Rogi/Santoro that will be a tricky match... for Rogi, that is! I want Max to beat Ivan the terrible and Safin to beat Yev. Sluiter/Nieminen??? Don't know... I prefer Escude over Krajicek and Grosgros/Dominik??? Can't say.

Better go and make din... let's see, pasta tonight. :p

Sjengster
02-19-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Leo7
am i the only one worried about Jonas Bjorkman tomorrow? Juanqui is in for a real battle methinks.

Yep, Bjorkman definitely means business here. Wessels said that he suffered a rib strain in practice and that it affected him physically today, knowing he couldn't win the match after he lost the first set, and Bjorkman made a rather arrogant declaration in his post-match interview that "even if Peter had been 100%, it would have been difficult to beat me today, the way I was playing", or words to that effect.

He did graciously concede that Ferrero was probably the toughest Spaniard for him to face on any court, but indoors is certainly his surface more than JC's and he said he's looking forward to the challenge.

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Hi, Lee! :wavey:

How are you?

Hi, Leo! :wavey: any more snow to shovel? ;)

no, we finished shoveling today. thank god. :)

Lee
02-19-2003, 09:18 PM
Talk about ticket price :fiery: I checked the Franklin Templeton in Scottsdale which is a small tourny and just parking cost US$8. There is no info on the web site how much for single day tickets in the first few days. They only show those packages which including staying in the resort which is over $1000 per person. :rolleyes:

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 09:19 PM
LOL @ the harem girls! Martina looks like the Mama-san! :D :D

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Vera
That's an idea! Definitely be more fun than watching Baldy and Pandy, don't you think? Hey, you should just fly into a spanish city and get ready for the Davis Cup final :D .

Great idea, Vera! [oops, better get meself a "job" or I won't even make it to Montreal!]

Yeah, that "harem" pic -- Jen-Jen looks like a bellydancer and Mon looks quite nice w the paraphernalia!! Love it! ;) They s dance for the male players, just for fun!! And what can the male players do...? Play polo on camels?? or just lie around on big poofy cushions and eat dates... :p

Vera
02-19-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Lee
Talk about ticket price :fiery: I checked the Franklin Templeton in Scottsdale which is a small tourny and just parking cost US$8. There is no info on the web site how much for single day tickets in the first few days. They only show those packages which including staying in the resort which is over $1000 per person. :rolleyes:

$8 per hour? or per day? Per day's not so bad :p. So, you think you'll go? Would be fun. I dreamt about trying to buy ticket for a tourney last nite, how interesting. And all the ticket were sold out :(. So my dream of going to a tourney, even it's in my dream, was denied, how sad.

Lee
02-19-2003, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
Hi, Lee! :wavey:

How are you?


Other than the little accident with my car, I am fine so far!

Hubby and I met our accountant this morning so he can start working on our tax return for both US and Canada which are the worst nightmare one can encounter in this world.

Also, need to calm down my mom cause when she hear all those news about war, she pretty freak out.

Other than these, life is good so far :D

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. B
LOL @ the harem girls! Martina looks like the Mama-san! :D :D

lol again Mrs. B.!! Martina and her geishas, eh?

Actually, the guys can bellydance too... [don't know if they bellydance in UAE].;)

Speaking of bellies, must feed mine [big enough to be a bellydancer, me! I have taken classes -- it's a lot of fun!].;)

Vera
02-19-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by RogiFan
And what can the male players do...?

Here's a clue:

RogiFan
02-19-2003, 09:31 PM
:) Vera!

Beautiful! :D

Now I really must go!!

Back later!

Tennis is for the elite w big purses... I noticed the ticket prices are more expensive in Montreal than in TO -- better facilities. ;)

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Vera
I dreamt about trying to buy ticket for a tourney last nite, how interesting. And all the ticket were sold out :(. So my dream of going to a tourney, even it's in my dream, was denied, how sad.
Don't fret, Vera. Some ppl say that what occurs in your dream is the exact opposite when you're awake. So you still might get your ticket! ;)

Lee
02-19-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Vera
$8 per hour? or per day? Per day's not so bad :p. So, you think you'll go? Would be fun. I dreamt about trying to buy ticket for a tourney last nite, how interesting. And all the ticket were sold out :(. So my dream of going to a tourney, even it's in my dream, was denied, how sad.

$8 per day but in Scottsdale, everyone have to drive around so most of the places, you don't have to pay for parking even I go downtown.

The week of the tourny is pretty busy for me so I doubt I will go. Usually, the day start at 11am but usually I need to be home around 2:30pm to either pick up Vince for various activities or wait for him at home and then drive him to various activities.

I also need to test for orange belt in TKD that week too, so......

Lee
02-19-2003, 09:44 PM
Emma, I will leave your Finn alone :D don't worry!

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
For Leo ;)

Iroda Tulyaganova & Lina Krasnarutskaya
http://www.wtatour.com/assets/story_image/IrodaLina021803.gif

awww, thanks for the cute pics of Lina and Dinara. unfortunately Dinara is out but Lina Kraz is won today over Patty Schnyder 6-1 ret. and she will face Amelie Mauresmo in the next round. if Amelie plays her best then she will win but she BARELY got past her opponent today in a 3rd set breaker and isn't in great form at the moment. hopefully Lina can take advantage of that and get another win over a top tenner. :D Good Luck, Krasnoroutskaya! :bounce:

Lee
02-19-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Oh yeah, were you there when Calgary hosted? So what did they do, they just compete on faked one?

It actually is great if there's no snow in Vancouver, bcos the city only hosted indoors like Hockey :D and stuffs. And snow day in Vancouver is nothing but headache. Yep, believe it or not, we're not use to it, and considering our pathetically small snow plow budget, it's a blessing when the weather is warm, and sunny :D.

More importantly is whether there's enough snow in Whistler where all the skiing competitions hold. I haven't check the condition in Whistler but I think they barely managed to get enough this year. Though, Blackcomb were ranked #1 a few years back and has good snow condition most of the time, and that it's a gorgeous ski town.

I officially landed as an immigrant that year in Calgary during the Winter Olympics. Most of the skiing competition was in the mountains in K-country where there were snow. The ski jumping, luge, stuff were in Olympic Park at the edge of the City where there were real snow and artificial snow but because of the Chinook, it was very windy most of the time, thus, really affect the competition.

Calgary Olympic is the first time the medal awarding ceremony was taken place in downtown Calgary instead of in the ski hills so many people could catch a look at the Olympians and enjoy the festive atmosphere. Now, this is a "must" for most Winter Olympics.

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
Several of us want to do a switch. We in the States (and Canada ;)) want to see some Eurosport coverage and you guys in Europe can see our drek ESPN coverage. I think it's the only way to truly understand the horror.

I'd gladly send anybody a tape but unfortunately it seems the North American & European systems aren't compatiable. So I guess the only thing to do is order a tennis tape that you know is from ESPN (like, for example, Roma 2001 final from Sports Resources (http://www.users.bigpond.com/tennisvideos1/)). Leo said the commentating was so horrible that he had to mute it to watch the match.

But if you really want to see ESPN, you have to get a match with PMac & Cliffy. For some reason there don't seem to be too many tapes with them floating around out there . . . .

yup, but that Roma 2001 match i ordered from sports resources isn't commented by Cliffy and PMac. instead it's those assholes Luke Jensen and Bob Picozzi.

ILR
02-19-2003, 09:59 PM
:wavey:

I got bored :o Im back,cant stay away too long can I?:p

Leo7
02-19-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by TennisHack
LOL, oh yes. Right up there with Sampras and Agassi, is Shiras.

But -- "doesn't seem to have a clue" yet is "enthusiastic & knowledgeable"? :confused:


oh yeah, i remember Leif Shiras from his commentating duties last year in TMS Madrid. he even did Juanqui's match against Alex. i remember he was constantly telling the players to serve and volley at the worst times. :rolleyes:

Lee
02-19-2003, 10:02 PM
Emma, how's your karting today?

Leo7
02-19-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Sjengster
Ah, but isn't your salvation supposed to arrive soon in the form of the Tennis Channel? I gather that was to be launched in the US at least, if not Canada, and even if it is successful then it won't arrive here in Europe for months, and then only with limited access on cable.

i'm almost 100% sure that my shitty cable provider (Cablevision) won't pick up the Tennis Channel. :fiery: :sad: :fiery:

ILR
02-19-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Lee
Emma, I will leave your Finn alone :D don't worry!

;) thats a good girl I want him all to myself :D yum yum :hearts:

ILR
02-19-2003, 10:05 PM
Lee karting was good today :) I was a little cautious to begin with but then well!and then we had a walk round town and had something to eat and just had a good time basically :)

Leo7
02-19-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Vera
Does anyone notice that the ATP site has Memphis on it's headline for the past 3-4 days. Last time I checked, Rotterdam is a bigger tourney with more Top 10 players, and most of the 32 players are top 50s. Granted, they are only Europeans :rolleyes:, eventhough ATP and tennis is "supposed" to be global!

yeah, but atptennis.com wants to make public the fact that they have their own website for the Memphis tourney w/ live scores. :rolleyes:

Leo7
02-19-2003, 10:12 PM
well i'm off to dinner :wavey: bye everybody

ILR
02-19-2003, 10:13 PM
bye Leo :wavey: :kiss:

Vera
02-19-2003, 10:14 PM
Bye Leo, I'm off a bit too. Bye guys :wavey:

ILR
02-19-2003, 10:17 PM
awwww :sad: is it because I came back?:p see ya later Vera!:wavey:

Lee
02-19-2003, 10:17 PM
Bye Leo & Vera! :wavey:

Lee
02-19-2003, 10:34 PM
Emma, just read your poem from yesterday. Great!

ILR
02-19-2003, 10:37 PM
the one about Rotterdam?thanks :) Im working on a Sami Hyypia one :D

Lee
02-19-2003, 10:46 PM
Hope you get it done before I have to go!

Lee
02-19-2003, 10:52 PM
It seems one of your fav, Lapentti is in quite a slump right now.

ILR
02-19-2003, 10:53 PM
Im on last two lines!:D why what is Nicos score?:sad:

Lee
02-19-2003, 10:56 PM
He lost in straight set 6-3 6-4 to Luis Horna, from Peru in second round AT&T Cup today.

ILR
02-19-2003, 11:01 PM
:eek::o:sad:Oh Nico I wonder whats wrong.

Lee,Ive finished my poem!:D

Lee
02-19-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by IluvRogi
:eek::o:sad:Oh Nico I wonder whats wrong.


It seems his younger bro is playing better than he does these days.

Lee
02-19-2003, 11:10 PM
Bye Emma! :wavey:

TKD classes are waiting :p

ILR
02-19-2003, 11:12 PM
bye Lee :wavey:

poor Nico being outshone by Giovanni!:p :sad:

Mrs. B
02-19-2003, 11:17 PM
sorry i disappeared there guys, hubby used the pc. now it's late and i have to go to bed, so night night and see u tomorrow. :wavey:

ILR
02-19-2003, 11:30 PM
I disappeared also Mrs.B goodnight :wavey:

Chloe le Bopper
02-20-2003, 12:21 AM
Tennis is for the elite w big purses... I noticed the ticket prices are more expensive in Montreal than in TO -- better facilities.

The Montreal tickets are a little more expensive, but not *that* much more. It's about 5 more bucks for the earliest sessions, and then as the week goes on it's maybe 15 bucks more. The only thing that I don't like is that qualies now costs 12 bucks! So I think that I will go Saturday through till Wednesday. I figured out that I can go for 5 days for 100 bucks (cheap seats of course). Take that people who pay 1000 bucks for a week! Granted 2 of the 5 days is for qualies, but there are always good qualie fields for the Masters Series, and I definately won't be dissapointed!

ALso, once Toronto gets up their new facilities in 2004 - if all goes according to plan - you better believe that ticket prices are going to go up there too! My step family had to revoke the seats that they have been getting for 20 years and buy something a little less cushy, because the prices went up so much for packages.

Chloe le Bopper
02-20-2003, 12:24 AM
Hackie - English isn't my subject of choice. I like to read for leisure, but school manages to kill scores of perfectly decent books! 1984, Brave New World, To Kill a Mocking Bird, Lord of the Flies, anything Shakespeare... the list goes on! Perfectly decentt literature that I will never be able to look at the same way!

Furthermore, my writing skills are pretty poor. I have the unfortunate habit of writing exactly how I speak, which often makes for incoherent messages.

TennisHack
02-20-2003, 12:34 AM
So we've all started posting in the other thread. We'll always have our memories, but some of us need speed ;)

Puss-in-Boots
02-20-2003, 12:59 AM
Navaer, old thread! :wavey: :kiss:

Vera
02-20-2003, 05:46 AM
I'm all for Part Deux, easier to remember the page I last visit.

:kiss: good bye thread :wavey: