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What is he thinking???

DeuX.cl
12-05-2006, 09:36 PM
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

There are 5 tournaments prior to the AU, and Gonzo isn't in any of them... so, basically, the very first tournament he will play in the begining of the 2007 season will be the AU.

Is there any sense in any of this? I mean, just fresh from his vacation and his off-season training and he goes into the AU not having played a single competition match. :confused: :confused:


i got this from El Mercurio (chilean newspaper), and it gooes like this:

Lo que sigue siendo un misterio es cómo iniciará la campaña 2007, ya que no se inscribió en ninguno de los cinco torneos previos al Abierto de Australia y aunque se ha dicho varias veces que se presentará la exhibición de Kooyong (Melbourne), tanto en los medios isleños como en la página web del evento se anuncia que los ocho participantes del mismo serán Roger Federer, Ivan Ljubicic, Andy Roddick, David Nalbandian, Thomas Haas, Marat Safin, Radek Stepanek y Andry Murray. González no aparece por ninguna parte.


PS: This is the first thread I create and English is not my native language, so please, be patient. :angel:

zine56
12-05-2006, 10:07 PM
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

There are 5 tournaments prior to the AU, and Gonzo isn't in any of them... so, basically, the very first tournament he will play in the begining of the 2007 season will be the AU.

Is there any sense in any of this? I mean, just fresh from his vacation and his off-season training and he goes into the AU not having played a single competition match. :confused: :confused:



i don't find this inusual at all :shrug: , for most of the top 20 players, the year starts with the AO (or Kooyong) and most of the players who starts early (read adelaide/doha/chennai, auckland/sydney) didn't played 3 finals in a row like Gonzo did in the end of 2006.

(except for Davydenko, he is a Robot...:lol:)

¿it could be better to have some matches to make sure you'll be ok for the AO? sure! but IF he feels like he can do it without extra tournaments... good for him!! (but he's gonna get some critics if he doesn't pull that one off...:o )

-Note:- the calendar before the AO is just 2 weeks, 3 tournaments played in the SAME week 2/1/2006 and 2 of them played in the SAME week 9/1/2006, so is not like he is missing half of the year, just 2 weeks...:cool:

olimpo
12-05-2006, 10:43 PM
i don't find this inusual at all :shrug: , for most of the top 20 players, the year starts with the AO (or Kooyong) and most of the players who starts early (read adelaide/doha/chennai, auckland/sydney) didn't played 3 finals in a row like Gonzo did in the end of 2006.

(except for Davydenko, he is a Robot...:lol:)

¿it could be better to have some matches to make sure you'll be ok for the AO? sure! but IF he feels like he can do it without extra tournaments... good for him!! (but he's gonna get some critics if he doesn't pull that one off...:o )

-Note:- the calendar before the AO is just 2 weeks, 3 tournaments played in the SAME week 2/1/2006 and 2 of them played in the SAME week 9/1/2006, so is not like he is missing half of the year, just 2 weeks...:cool:

:yeah: I second all you said Zine including the Davydenko comment :lol:

And to play no real tournament before the AO shouldn’t be a problem for Fernando since we should not forget that he made these 3 finals in a row right after a break of 5 weeks between the USO and Vienna. ;)

NicoFan
12-05-2006, 11:13 PM
I'm with DeuX.cl - what is he thinking????

I'll have to check the entry lists, but I think almost all the players are playing at least one tournament before the Oz Open.

This is just :eek:

This "strategy" of his of only playing now and again will work in the short-term...but not in long term. He'll never ever break the Top Five doing things like this...unless everyone above him completely falls apart. And considering some of the players above him that could happen. But that's not the way a player should want to get to the Top 5.

And Ricardo - if he's not rested from last year by now...something's wrong...

zine56
12-05-2006, 11:52 PM
I'm with DeuX.cl - what is he thinking????

I'll have to check the entry lists, but I think almost all the players are playing at least one tournament before the Oz Open.

This is just :eek:

This "strategy" of his of only playing now and again will work in the short-term...but not in long term. He'll never ever break the Top Five doing things like this...unless everyone above him completely falls apart. And considering some of the players above him that could happen. But that's not the way a player should want to get to the Top 5.

And Ricardo - if he's not rested from last year by now...something's wrong...

""chillax"" feña will be fine :kiss: (besides i bet he is the only one of the Top Ten who lost on the first round of the AO last year and has zero points to defend this year... damn u Bogomolov!! :mad: )

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 12:15 AM
""chillax"" feña will be fine :kiss: (besides i bet he is the only one of the Top Ten who lost on the first round of the AO last year and has zero points to defend this year... damn u Bogomolov!! :mad: )

I'm not concerned about Fernando (well I am but not in this case :lol: ) - I'm concerned about the game as a whole.

I can't say what I think. :lol: Cuz I'll go off on a rant. I'll leave it with this - not going to tournaments by all the guys pisses me off.

Give me a guy like Dale Junior who said after the last race this year: I can take it (the offseason) or leave it. I kind of enjoy this racing thing.

Hell will freeze over before a tennis player ever says anything like that. :rolleyes:

zine56
12-06-2006, 12:27 AM
I'm not concerned about Fernando (well I am but not in this case :lol: ) - I'm concerned about the game as a whole.

I can't say what I think. :lol: Cuz I'll go off on a rant. I'll leave it with this - not going to tournaments by all the guys pisses me off.

Give me a guy like Dale Junior who said after the last race this year: I can take it (the offseason) or leave it. I kind of enjoy this racing thing.

Hell will freeze over before a tennis player ever says anything like that. :rolleyes:

i seriously doubt a Nascar-driver has the same physical exigence during the whole year of a Top Ten player, if he does, he should be on vacations. :angel:

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 12:40 AM
i seriously doubt a Nascar-driver has the same physical exigence during the whole year of a Top Ten player, if he does, he should be on vacations. :angel:

Unfortunately shows you don't know anything about racing. :lol:

Well not arguing the point anymore.

I'll just leave it with that I'm very disappointed in Fernando right now.

And too bad Davydenko has no hair. ;) :lol: Because I like his work ethic. I watched him a lot this summer, and I have nothing but respect for him. There's a guy that deserves to be in the Top 5. :yeah:

zine56
12-06-2006, 12:45 AM
I'll just leave it with that I'm very disappointed in Fernando right now.

yes Fernando and us are deeply worried about that :lol:

Fergie
12-06-2006, 12:50 AM
Feña should play at least a couple of matchs before the AO :rolleyes:

DeuX.cl
12-06-2006, 01:18 AM
Actually, he should be rested right about now, since he's training in Baires.

I really hope i'm wrong, but i can't see this as a good sign. If he thinks he can pull off a really good first week in the AU, that's cool. Let's hope that his three finals in a row wasnt a fluke. I'm hoping to see Gonzo at least in the Quarterfinals of the AU

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 01:33 AM
Actually, he should be rested right about now, since he's training in Baires.

I really hope i'm wrong, but i can't see this as a good sign. If he thinks he can pull off a really good first week in the AU, that's cool. Let's hope that his three finals in a row wasnt a fluke. I'm hoping to see Gonzo at least in the Quarterfinals of the AU

I didn't know he was training in BA.

Is Stefanki there?

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 01:42 AM
I just checked the entry lists. Not only are all of the top players playing the week before the Oz Open (obviously - I've never heard of any one going into a Slam without having at least one tournament beforehand...at least not anyone that thinks they have a chance to go far), but most are playing the week before that (which makes me wonder what the hell Nico is thinking too not playing in a tournament before Auckland).

Amazing... :shrug:

Whatever...not worth the effort to even wonder about it.

ChinoRios4Ever
12-06-2006, 01:46 AM
training in baires????? or having fun with Gisela????? :lol: :angel:

i think Gonzo will travel to San Diego to reunite with Larry and start the second part of the preseaon.... i hope so...

let's hope the love cant disturb the feña's preseason....

ChinoRios4Ever
12-06-2006, 01:48 AM
I just checked the entry lists. Not only are all of the top players playing the week before the Oz Open (obviously - I've never heard of any one going into a Slam without having at least one tournament beforehand...at least not anyone that thinks they have a chance to go far), but most are playing the week before that (which makes me wonder what the hell Nico is thinking too not playing in a tournament before Auckland).

Amazing... :shrug:

Whatever...not worth the effort to even wonder about it.

everybody has his own plans before the aussie open, like feña will not play a tournament, nico will play only auckland or rafa for example will play chennai and sydney, roger will play an exhibition....

Alx
12-06-2006, 08:25 AM
I'd prefer that Fernando play a tournament before AO too. How can you hope having good results if you don't play before a GS ? Training is not like playing matches.

olimpo
12-06-2006, 11:10 AM
i seriously doubt a Nascar-driver has the same physical exigence during the whole year of a Top Ten player, if he does, he should be on vacations. :angel:

:yeah: ;)

olimpo
12-06-2006, 11:12 AM
yes Fernando and us are deeply worried about that :lol:

;) :haha:

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 11:39 AM
I'd prefer that Fernando play a tournament before AO too. How can you hope having good results if you don't play before a GS ? Training is not like playing matches.

Indeed Alx, indeed.

People that are applauding Fernando for this decision think they are doing so because they are great "fans" of his. I don't think that supporting a player's decision even if they are wrong makes someone a great "fan".

I want Fernando to do well - he's got what it takes to get into the Top 5...and stay there. But he has to have a balanced schedule - not just show up at a Slam unprepared. As Alx said, practice is not the same as match play.

Things like this are hurting the sport too - we need the guys to show up at tournaments. Don't you see how guys skipping and backing out of smaller tournaments (as well as the larger ones) are killing this sport????

And about NASCAR - you just show your ignorance about a sport when you say that they don't use the same amount of energy as a tennis player. Guys that race have to be in good shape - it takes a lot of physical as well as mental strength to race for 4 sometimes 5 hours at a time. And if they make a mistake...they could die. They come out of the car physically and emotionallly drained. At the same time, I've seen tennis players wipe a guy off the court in an hour and barely break a sweat.

Enough said...

zine56
12-06-2006, 12:36 PM
well well weeelll.. looks like someone always wants to have the control and have the last word in discussions huh?


I can't say what I think. Cuz I'll go off on a rant. I'll leave it with this - not going to tournaments by all the guys pisses me off.



Well not arguing the point anymore.

I'll just leave it with that I'm very disappointed in Fernando right now.



Whatever...not worth the effort to even wonder about it.



Enough said...


guess what, this is a free forum so i can keep arguing all i want :kiss:, if u don't wanna stay in this discussion , why don't u go and write about it in your blog-without-feedback where no one can have a different opinion of yours like in these forums? (because that's the real reason of having a blog-without-feedback and for saying : "huh i don't like these forums snif snif :crying2:") :hug:



people that are applauding Fernando for this decision think they are doing so because they are great "fans" of his. I don't think that supporting a player's decision even if they are wrong makes someone a great "fan".


oh i'm sorry i forgot how many years of playing and coaching professional tennis makes you and me the perfect person to give an opinion like you just did :shrug: i'm not applauding anything , all i said is (quoting myself here) "if he thinks he can pull this off good for him!, but if he doesnt he's gonna get some critics :o"



I want Fernando to do well - he's got what it takes to get into the Top 5...and stay there. But he has to have a balanced schedule - not just show up at a Slam unprepared. As Alx said, practice is not the same as match play.


oh yeah ? that's why you are dissapointed of him and said "look at davydenko, THERE'S A GUY WHO DESERVES TO BE TOP 5", i don't think any of us has the autority to say if a guy deserves to be on the top 5 or not, especially when we speak they're already training for the next year and Gonzo made a big effort last year , bringing Stefanski in and making huge changes of attitude and his game.

if u wanna talk about a guy "deserving" to be in the top 5 look at fat dave :shrug: he was 3-4 of the world last year with the points of the TMC and 2 GS SF, the rest of the year was rally,BBQ, and fishing for him...:lol:



And about NASCAR - you just show your ignorance about a sport when you say that they don't use the same amount of energy as a tennis player. Guys that race have to be in good shape - it takes a lot of physical as well as mental strength to race for 4 sometimes 5 hours at a time. And if they make a mistake...they could die. They come out of the car physically and emotionallly drained. At the same time, I've seen tennis players wipe a guy off the court in an hour and barely break a sweat.


is a bigger ignorance trying to compare 2 totally different sports, like the retards of the General Messages, trying to compare golf and Tennis :retard:

and i didn't say nothing about energy , i said physical exigence, a tennis player trains 2-3 hours a day every week for 10 months to test himself against the world elite every single day of the tennis-calendar.

have a good life :kiss:

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 12:56 PM
:rolleyes:

Wow...slight overreaction Ricardo.

Nothing in my comments warranted this response. And I don't mind debating - but when this is what it turns into on MTF, it isn't worth it.

I just want what's best for Fernando and the sport.

You have a nice life too Ricardo... :kiss:

zine56
12-06-2006, 12:59 PM
You have a nice life too Ricardo... :kiss:


bye bye now :kiss:


:wavey:

zine56
12-06-2006, 02:00 PM
Private Message


12-06-2006 What is your problem???? 10:59 AM NicoFan


Ricardo,

I disagreed with what you said, you go off on me, and when I respond, you further go off on me.

What is your problem?

Just trying to have a discussion about what Fernando could possibly be thinking, and act as if I'm attacking him and saying back things about him.

Most guys want to go to at least one pre-tournament before a Slam. This is a rare decision to say the least.

Lynn


if u want to discuss , do it on this forum, i am not into the PM thingy :kiss:

NicoFan
12-06-2006, 02:10 PM
Ricardo - you and I have known each other a long time.

I don't know what I've done to you to deserve this attack against me just because I disagree with you.

We've never had a problem before.

:shrug:

zine56
12-06-2006, 02:13 PM
Ricardo - you and I have known each other a long time.

I don't know what I've done to you to deserve this attack against me just because I disagree with you.

We've never had a problem before.

:shrug:

yeah, play the victim instead of the autority, now like i said a few posts ago:

"bye bye now :kiss:"

Fergie
12-06-2006, 03:42 PM
Enough for now Ricardo and Lynn, ok?

And Ricardo, isn't good made public a PM then the next time reply or ignore them but don't post the message here