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Davis Cup final

Kiank
11-26-2006, 03:11 PM
It's never too early to start a new thread. The victory is going to be huge for Argentina, and for David especially.
The team (Mancini, David, Canas, Calleri, Chela, Acasuso) is now training in Cologny, Switzerland and will arrive in Moscow in a few days. According to russian newspapers, Diego Maradona will join the team in Moscow.

sophia_c
11-26-2006, 05:56 PM
Its true Maradona said he will be there!!!...chief cheerleader!!!....I just hope they begin well and take it to the Russians...they have to start in a positive frame of mind.....which I think they will....David is very different when he plays Davis Cup......

Viken01
11-26-2006, 07:42 PM
Vamos David !

marti_228
11-26-2006, 08:12 PM
Its true Maradona said he will be there!!!...chief cheerleader!!!....I just hope they begin well and take it to the Russians...they have to start in a positive frame of mind.....which I think they will....David is very different when he plays Davis Cup......

Yes,he will be there and he will travel with other Argentinean famous people apart from other Argentines. Also, there will be a lot of Argentines that live in Europe.:)

sophia_c
11-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Yes,he will be there and he will travel with other Argentinean famous people apart from other Argentines. Also, there will be a lot of Argentines that live in Europe.:)


Sure!!!!..I can't wait for the final....it will be good..you guys will have to be up early to watch it all!!!!...but I am sure it will be worth it!!!!;)


VAMOS ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!!!

gravity
11-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Ahhh its in Moscow ;) I've seen flyers for the Davis Cup posted around Buenos Aires so I guessed the tie was being played here and wanted to buy a ticket on the black market. One day I will learn total Spanish! I wonder what they've been advertising. Surely it can't just be they are happy and celebrating Maradona is flying to Moscow to cheer for the Argentine team. But you never know, he is a god here........

sophia_c
11-26-2006, 10:22 PM
Ahhh its in Moscow ;) I've seen flyers for the Davis Cup posted around Buenos Aires so I guessed the tie was being played here and wanted to buy a ticket on the black market. One day I will learn total Spanish! I wonder what they've been advertising. Surely it can't just be they are happy and celebrating Maradona is flying to Moscow to cheer for the Argentine team. But you never know, he is a god here........


Oh Dear God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

babes..how are you????????????

i hope you are ok!!!!...are you still In BS AS????...and its getting warm again!!!!

get in touch!!!!...please!!!!!!!!

gravity
11-26-2006, 10:48 PM
Oh Dear God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

babes..how are you????????????

i hope you are ok!!!!...are you still In BS AS????...and its getting warm again!!!!

get in touch!!!!...please!!!!!!!!

Darling darling darling!!!! :lol: How the hell are you???

Well I'm back in Bs As yeah. The weather is pissing me off though, it's gorgeous and sunny during the week when I'm stuck working in our office. Then when the weekend comes, it's starts blowing up a gale and the temps drop down. I hope it improves, I'm going to the beach in Mar del Plata in less than 2 weeks....

I'm having a blast! I went to see Shakira on Friday night. I love her so much, the hips don't lie and she's such a sweetheart - even if she is engaged to a horrible son of the former president. (poor Shaki blinded by love) Anyway the show was crazy I had to go in my pink Diesel top because it's totally gay for a guy to love singing and dancing to Shakira right? ;) But I had fun!!!!!! I've also seen the Black Eyed Peas and went to the Buenos Aires Creamfields a couple weeks ago (70,000 mad people there) and had a blast.

I'm also getting weird text messages from an unknown admirer. I don't speak much Spanish but I think the last one said the person is single and wants me. :lol:

The one lowlight is I think Jazzi doesn't want to meet for a drink ever again. I think I had bad body odour or something. I'm totally crushed!!!!!!! I'm always rejected by the nice girls ;)

Vamos Argentina en el copa de Davis!!!!!!!!!!!! (or words to that effect)

wenty
11-26-2006, 11:38 PM
Good luck to David!!!!

Kiank
11-27-2006, 05:07 AM
The team is in Moscow. In the short airport interview, Mancini says the Russians are the favorites, but the players have been training hard in the last week, and are going to play a great tennis. Nalbandian and others refuse to answer any questions en route to Marriott Royal Aurora hotel.

lau
11-27-2006, 08:37 AM
Ahhh its in Moscow ;) I've seen flyers for the Davis Cup posted around Buenos Aires so I guessed the tie was being played here and wanted to buy a ticket on the black market. One day I will learn total Spanish! I wonder what they've been advertising. Surely it can't just be they are happy and celebrating Maradona is flying to Moscow to cheer for the Argentine team. But you never know, he is a god here........

:haha: :haha:
:secret: I think that´s TyC Sports advertising that they are broadcasting the final ;) And yes, I have no idea why Maradona is in some of the flyers... :rolleyes:

Joyce_23
11-27-2006, 09:07 AM
Good luck to David and the team! I'm so hoping they will beat the odds and win the final. Vamos!

sophia_c
11-27-2006, 09:07 AM
Darling darling darling!!!! :lol: How the hell are you???

Well I'm back in Bs As yeah. The weather is pissing me off though, it's gorgeous and sunny during the week when I'm stuck working in our office. Then when the weekend comes, it's starts blowing up a gale and the temps drop down. I hope it improves, I'm going to the beach in Mar del Plata in less than 2 weeks....

I'm having a blast! I went to see Shakira on Friday night. I love her so much, the hips don't lie and she's such a sweetheart - even if she is engaged to a horrible son of the former president. (poor Shaki blinded by love) Anyway the show was crazy I had to go in my pink Diesel top because it's totally gay for a guy to love singing and dancing to Shakira right? ;) But I had fun!!!!!! I've also seen the Black Eyed Peas and went to the Buenos Aires Creamfields a couple weeks ago (70,000 mad people there) and had a blast.

I'm also getting weird text messages from an unknown admirer. I don't speak much Spanish but I think the last one said the person is single and wants me. :lol:

The one lowlight is I think Jazzi doesn't want to meet for a drink ever again. I think I had bad body odour or something. I'm totally crushed!!!!!!! I'm always rejected by the nice girls ;)

Vamos Argentina en el copa de Davis!!!!!!!!!!!! (or words to that effect)



Darling!!!!!!!!...babes!!!!!!!!!!...every nice name to you!!!!...I'm so happy you are having a great time there!!!...and the Shakira gig....:lol: i just wish i had been there with you!!!!....we could have had pink diesel t shirts each!!!!!

yeah I am sure I will be there in the city again!!!...and the next time...we will have proper drinks!!!!! ;)

I did hear the weather stinks on the weekends!!!...you know I have my sources!!! :lol:

You should be speaking Spanish like a portena by now...you do know that :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: ..you know I would be ;) ....ok..I'll be in touch!!!...a lot!!!...and I have news for you too!!!!


Vamos Argentina!!!!!!!

krystlel
11-28-2006, 10:54 AM
I'm starting to get excited about this tie. Hopefully the Argies can pull off the upset.

I've got 5 hours highlights on the first and third days and 2 1/2 hours on the second. I think I'm going to follow it on Davis Cup radio and then watch it the next morning since it's having everything within a fixed timeslot is a major spoiler.

gravity
11-28-2006, 09:37 PM
Hey I want to hear your news!!!!!!!! :lol: You can write me in private if you like.

You definitely gotta comeback to BA.......... you can arrange to meet Jazzi for a girlie chat... secretly invite me along.... and we can all have a drink together! I can give you my metrosexual opinion on anything :p It's a plan. (don't worry, jazzita only reads the picture threads in here)

I'm really lazy with the Spanish. I always end up hanging around with people who are fluent in English. Which sucks, because I do miss on meeting interesting people who are not lucky enough to speak the most important language of love and business!!!! (actually some guy nearly kicked my ass today when I jokingly pronounced in my broken spanish... Spanish is stupid... English is only important... I'm always getting in trouble with the little I can say in the local language)

As I'd say in my gayest voice: I want to hear your news girl (jumping up and down, shaking my hands in the air...) If it's really juicy gossip, private message me and I promise I'll only reveal it to anyone else if they pay me $20 pesos.

Well I'm going home now, been a long day at work (started at 1pm, it's now 19:30)

Hugssssssssssss!!!!!

Darling!!!!!!!!...babes!!!!!!!!!!...every nice name to you!!!!...I'm so happy you are having a great time there!!!...and the Shakira gig....:lol: i just wish i had been there with you!!!!....we could have had pink diesel t shirts each!!!!!

yeah I am sure I will be there in the city again!!!...and the next time...we will have proper drinks!!!!! ;)

I did hear the weather stinks on the weekends!!!...you know I have my sources!!! :lol:

You should be speaking Spanish like a portena by now...you do know that :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: ..you know I would be ;) ....ok..I'll be in touch!!!...a lot!!!...and I have news for you too!!!!

Vamos Argentina!!!!!!!

sophia_c
11-28-2006, 09:43 PM
Hey I want to hear your news!!!!!!!! :lol: You can write me in private if you like.

You definitely gotta comeback to BA.......... you can arrange to meet Jazzi for a girlie chat... secretly invite me along.... and we can all have a drink together! I can give you my metrosexual opinion on anything :p It's a plan. (don't worry, jazzita only reads the picture threads in here)

I'm really lazy with the Spanish. I always end up hanging around with people who are fluent in English. Which sucks, because I do miss on meeting interesting people who are not lucky enough to speak the most important language of love and business!!!! (actually some guy nearly kicked my ass today when I jokingly pronounced in my broken spanish... Spanish is stupid... English is only important... I'm always getting in trouble with the little I can say in the local language)

As I'd say in my gayest voice: I want to hear your news girl (jumping up and down, shaking my hands in the air...) If it's really juicy gossip, private message me and I promise I'll only reveal it to anyone else if they pay me $20 pesos.

Well I'm going home now, been a long day at work (started at 1pm, it's now 19:30)

Hugssssssssssss!!!!!




Only $20 pesos :eek: :eek: ...but we know we can but at least some drinks for that!!! ;) ....

I'll pm you ;)
Chau y besos para vos (see..i am not even in BSAS and I keep up with the Spanish!!!)
:wavey:

Kiank
11-29-2006, 01:06 AM
There's an article in Russian Sport-Express about the team's very first training in Moscow. Nalbandian, Acasuso and Canas tried the court at 11 am, Calleri and Chela one hour later. The surface was found satisfactory. At least, no broken rackets this time, says the article, reminding of Andy Roddick's recent problems here last month.
The article describes how Nalbandian has lost his temper at one moment, throwing away his tennis equipment (?). The correspondent was unable to find out what caused the irritation, as David had left the court immediately after the training. Mancini (37, but looking slightly older than 37), had to discuss the problems of the day with Acasuso.
I noticed, the reporter says, that Acasuso looked much more confident than David during this first workout. His shots were deep and precise, while David's backhands weren't working at all. However, David was serving pretty well from the very beginning. (??)
While Enrike Morea, 82, the living legend of south american tennis, was trying to comprehend what he just saw, Mancini approached the large group of argie reporters to answer their questions. I also approached Alberto and asked him couple of questions. He said that he slept well last night, that the surface was slower than last week in Switzerland (good news for his team), and that the bounce of the ball was strangely different every time (bad news for his team).
Then came the Russians. Davydenko, who got married couple of days ago, showed up with his wife, Irena. I didn't see his wedding ring.

wenty
11-29-2006, 01:37 AM
^^ thanks for that Kiank...i wonder what made Nalby so irrirtated

Galathea
11-29-2006, 03:22 AM
Don't know exactly what moment that articule talks about.
Nalby did say that he found the surface "incredibly slow", probably the slower from the indoor circuit and that he didn't like it too much, he preffers fasters courts but for the team was better this way.

Also, today there was a discussion/fight with Mancini, at little agravated by the media. According to a friend of mine who's there, a member of the press, David came back and started trainning lighter. Aclaration, seems that Mancini lets the players regulate their rates freely, except he wants something. So, David didn't get any direction and proceeded to play more lightly.
On the other hand, Mancini seemed to want the two sngle players train strong, so he putted Chela vs Nalbo. He didn't say that to Nalbandian, who was more interested in testing some shots or bounces than in play seriously (checking or testing the court).
Mancini, when nalbo was losing 0-4, stopped the match and talked to David, kinda recriminating the lack of effort.... And David didn't shut up exactly:rolleyes:
His answer was like "dude, If you lets us decide the intensity of the trainning except some order and I do that, WTF are you saying to me? I can't read your mind!!" kinda... And Mancini dropped the bomb about Chela as the second single (at least the first day), wich surprised Nalbo and he preffered Calleri (who was doing great trainnings, better than Chela).

They were talking about 50 minutes with different intensity, and some tense moments. And the press was there (some pictures of David's face are priceless).
And the press started to talk: That Nalby got pissed off because he was being outplayed by Chela and couldn't take an order from Mancinin (exact quote) ... when David was not really playing, just testing some things... to "Nalbandian and Mancini doesn't agree about Chela and fight about it" in big letters... (the major posture)

The thing ended, with Nalby AND Chela leaving first (they always left the stadium in two parts) and talking friendly (so nothing bad between them) but David in a very bad mood and Mancini too.

Both were wrong, and lately both talked about it and with the rest of the team too....
Even Mancini said to the press that he always talks with David and asks things. That it wasn't as serious as some people was saying (like a war or something) and that both were edgy and tense... Translation: we were both idiots and we fought for nothing.
He even was surprised about the repercution of this.

What is true is Nalbo sees better Calleri as the second single, based in waht he saw in trainning. And he told Mancini that. According to my friend, the big problem was Nalbandian reacting badly to Mancini's recriminations about not putting effort, not too much about Chela.. He took it in a wrong way Mancini's words, who also was pissed because a player didn't guess what he was thinking (if you see something you don't want, stop the practice since the beggining and tell the player to not do it lightly... not at the 4th game to recriminate). And Mancini didn't chose the best place to tell an already annoyed Nalbandian about the team. So that makes them more pissed off.
But, later they talked in his room, with the rest of the team and they're ok...

But that was today, not the first day. The first day was all easy.
Don't know what the press is saying now, only a very few talked about what really happened and gave the real dimension the fight had. A lot of the press made their day with that.

Kiank
11-29-2006, 07:04 AM
What a kindergarten.

wenty
11-29-2006, 09:24 AM
far out...how r they gonna win DC when they act like this among themselves?

paschan
11-29-2006, 09:40 AM
I hope they will win, but I honestly think that Canas would the only one besides David that could win a singles match. Just on pure inspirartion and history. He will not get the chance though...

jazz_girl
11-29-2006, 12:49 PM
(don't worry, jazzita only reads the picture threads in here)



Wrong :p

jazz_girl
11-29-2006, 12:55 PM
Ok, the journalists who were there are saying that things blow out of proportion. No one could hear what happened exactly so no on really knows what was the argument about. Apparently they say it was about some aspects of David's game, and he got mad about it. But it was in good terms. In fact, of the journalists just said that after that incident she went to the players's hotel to see if it was that bad (she was there during the argument, however didn't think it was that bad, but when the press in argentina started saying that it was a terrible fight, she thought it was about something which happened afterwards) she saw Luli and David playing cards together. So I believe it wasn't something too serious...

Joyce_23
11-29-2006, 05:25 PM
I don't really care if they had a fight or not to be honest. Even if they did, so what? People fight, so do tennis players and coaches. *shrug* I'm sure neither Nalby or Luli are still thinking about this incident right now so why should I?
I'm sure bringing home the Davis Cup would erase any bad feelings still lingering between them...;) So I hope Dave's backhands will work better in his matches. I'm sure he will raise his level in the matches, training never seems like something David takes very seriously. If the training I once saw was any indication that is.

chabela
11-29-2006, 06:46 PM
Yesterday, Mancini talked with "la nación" and denied the existence of the problem.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=863108 (sorry , it's in Spanish, I didn't find it in English).

But in other article David said he is not well,he is going through a difficult personal time. ("Estoy pasando por un momento personal no ideal").

Fuerza David!!!, we are confidence of you!!!

:wavey:

Joyce_23
11-29-2006, 07:43 PM
But in other article David said he is not well,he is going through a difficult personal time. ("Estoy pasando por un momento personal no ideal").


In all this Davis Cup built-up and stress you almost forget that this guy is still mourning. Does anyone know if David had the time to fly home before he went to Moscow? I assumed he didn't since he went to Geneve and then to Barcelona but I'm not really sure. All that tragedy back home and not being able to do anything about it must take a lot out of someone. I can imagine him having a hard time being his regular self in these circumstances.

chabela
11-29-2006, 08:31 PM
In all this Davis Cup built-up and stress you almost forget that this guy is still mourning. Does anyone know if David had the time to fly home before he went to Moscow? I assumed he didn't since he went to Geneve and then to Barcelona but I'm not really sure. All that tragedy back home and not being able to do anything about it must take a lot out of someone. I can imagine him having a hard time being his regular self in these circumstances.

No Joyce, DAVID didn't come to Argentina. As you'v said, DAVID went to Geneva from Barcelona. I whish he can play as good as he knows. It will be very important to him

:wavey:

Joyce_23
11-30-2006, 08:45 AM
No Joyce, DAVID didn't come to Argentina. As you'v said, DAVID went to Geneva from Barcelona. I whish he can play as good as he knows. It will be very important to him

:wavey:


Thanks for clearing that up, I was almost certain he did't make it back home but you erased any doubts I still had.
I'm sure a very motivated David will stand on that court Friday, this is probably the most important thing he's ever done in his career (from his perspective, Nalby has always put Davis Cup in front of his own career) so I expect him to be ready for the challenge. It's gonna be hard though, Russia has a very strong team.

Kiank
11-30-2006, 08:36 PM
Another article from the same source. I am sorry for the translation!

The day starts from the visitor team's training. Chela and Acasuso have just left the court. David Nalbandian is now working in kind of relaxed fashion.
Alexander Volkov is carefully watching Nalbandian.
- Is he dangerous? - I asked him.
- Of course he is! Everybody is dangerous here! Argentina is a very balanced team.
- You are only 2 years older than Alberto Mancini. Did you ever face him on the court?
- Yeah. In Bastad semis, 1991. I bageled him in the firt set, and was a break up in the second, but still lost that match: 6:0, 3:6, 2:6.
Volkov is now calling somewhere on his cell phone, meanwhile Nalbandian is still working out on the court. He's aiming the serve square angles, but today is not his day: all the ball boxes used as targets are remained intact.
Nalbandian is disappointed. The Argentine reporters try to approach him, but South America's #1 leaves the court from the other side.
Here come our people. Safin, and Igor Andreev. Volkov joins them.
Now I ask few questions to Tarpishev.
- Do you remember your 2002 victory in France? You were welcomed here like national heroes...
- Well, winning at home can create even more jubilation. As an example, Just compare the Tursunov's wins over Roddick here and over Gasquet in France. Both victories were equally decisive, but people reacted in different way. If we manage to beat the Argies here, expect something great, a real flight of tennis popularity in Russia.
- Are you nervous?
- Not yet, too early.
- Whom do you especially count on? Davydenko and Safin?
- Yes, of course. I wouldn't put Tursunov yet, he's not as experienced, and not perfect mentally. Yes, he committed a miracle against the Americans, but playing in the final would be different.
- Will this surface benefit us?
- I hope so, but not too much.
- Who do you think is stronger, Roddick on clay or Nalbandian on this surface?
- Nalbandian, without any doubt. He is very balanced, and he doesn't care what surface he plays on. Safin will have to be very aggressive against him, even if he makes a lot of unforced errors. There's no other way to beat Nalbandian.
- Argentine reporters say that Chela will be the second one to play on Friday...
- Maybe they're trying to mislead us. But I don't exclude that. He is 5-0 in H2H against Davydenko. However, Nikolay is very confident right now, and if he has to face Chela, he won't care about these stats.
- Did his recent marriage affect him in a positive way?
- Sure, he became kind of calm. The wedding party was great, and helped all the players to forget about tennis for a while, and become more relaxed.
- He played 96 matches this season, more than any other ATP player.
- Well, if freshness was the key factor, I would pick Korolev or Andreev. But that's the end of season, and no one is really fresh.
- What about Safin? He didn't play a lot, did he?
- Unfortunately, Safin is not extremely confident right now. He is not stable in entire match, that can turn lethal when facing dangerous players such as Nalbandian. All of our players need to be more relaxed today. I wish we had another wedding (smiling).
- Who is the next candidate?
- Maybe, Tursunov? (laughing)
- Right now, I'm looking at Tursunov - he is kind of tired, isn't he.
- That's what I'm telling you: it would be dangerous to put him on the first day. His calendar was so intense lately, and also he's still digesting his fame and general attention and admiration after his win over Roddick.

gooner88
11-30-2006, 09:06 PM
No need to worry Kiank, the translation is fine. :yeah:
Thanks for the article.

Kyla
11-30-2006, 09:29 PM
Mucha Suerte Argentina!

Go get that cup!

Argentine girl
12-01-2006, 03:25 AM
Argentina Still on Track After a Bumpy Year
By CHRISTOPHER CLAREY
Published: November 29, 2006

MOSCOW, Nov. 29 — For an Argentine speaking his language, the literal translation of roller coaster is "Russian mountain." How appropriate then that a roller coaster of a year for Argentine tennis is ending here in the country of Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky and Marat Safin.

In individual terms, 2006 has been a disappointment by Argentina's now-elevated standards, with Gastón Gaudio fading from prominence; Guillermo Coria plummeting from prominence and only one Argentine man now left in the top 25.

In legal terms, 2006 has been a deeply qualified success with Guillermo Cañas and Mariano Puerta, the latest Argentine luminaries to be sanctioned for doping, getting their suspensions reduced, if not their reputations rehabilitated, after appeals to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

It is only in collective terms that the Argentines have thrived. On paper, their Davis Cup team is weaker than some that have preceded it, with the injury-prone David Nalbandian the only genuine star.

Yet despite all the skeletons, old and new, rattling around Argentine lockers, Nalbandian and his teammates have worked their way through a tricky draw and put themselves within one victory of the trophy that Argentines have been chasing without success since they joined tennis' premier team competition in 1921.

The only time they came this close was in 1981, when Guillermo Vilas and another robust baseliner, Jose Luis Clerc, were beaten 3-1 by John McEnroe and the United States in the final on a quick indoor court in CincinnatiÖ.

It has taken the Argentines 25 years to get a second chance, and it begins Friday with the two opening singles matches against Russia and with one of those in the stands expected to be Diego Maradona, the Argentine soccer icon who knows about roller coaster rides.

"I think Davis Cup is one of the big unresolved things in our country in terms of sport," Argentine captain Alberto Mancini said in an interview Wednesday in Moscow's Olympic Stadium. "For many years, we've had very strong generations of players, but for one reason or another, we've never managed to do it. It's a dream for everyone, and I think now that our tennis has become more solid than ever, the Argentine public has even more expectations.

"I remember watching the 1981 final on television at my house when I was a boy of 12," Mancini said. "The memories are a little fuzzy, but my family always followed Davis Cup, and that was a big moment and, in the end, a big disappointment."

More of the same is hardly out of the question. Once again, the Argentines, playing on the road and indoors, are not the favorites. Russia has the world's No. 3 player Nikolay Davydenko, a newlywed who has been in rare form indoors in recent weeks. Russia also has Safin, a former world No. 1, and Dmitry Tursunov, a fine fast-court player who proved he has the nerve for Davis Cup by beating Andy Roddick of the United States in an ultra-marathon of a fifth set in the decisive match of the semifinal.

"They have a very solid team," Mancini said. "Safin is not at his best, but he is coming back and has had a good second half of the year. Davydenko is at his peak. It's certainly a bit difficult. We know we are the underdogs, but we also know that we have a legitimate chance."

The key is Nalbandian, the sweaty, moody man from Cordoba who is his country's finest all-court player since Vilas. While most Argentines grow up on clay, Nalbandian had a hard court near his childhood home, and his compact strokes and returns are well designed for any surface, even the rubberized carpet in use here in Moscow.

He reached the final at Wimbledon on grass in 2002 and has now reached the semifinals of the other three Grand Slam tournaments, including the Australian Open and French Open this year. But both tournaments turned out to be demoralizing, as he lost his grip against the inexperienced Marcos Baghdatis in Australia in January and then injured himself after a torrid start against Roger Federer in Paris in June.

Nalbandian, whose ranking has slipped from No. 3 to No. 8, has not been quite the same since, and he has been on edge this week, well aware of the historic opportunity at hand.

"There were moments when Argentina has been very far from the Davis Cup, and lately we've always been close, playing semifinals and losing by little," Nalbandian said in an interview earlier this month. "We have to take advantage of these years, while we've got this competitive team, to win the Cup."

On Tuesday, he and Mancini were involved in an animated, sometimes heated court-side discussion in plain view of a coterie of Argentine journalists. It was perceived and reported as a disagreement over who would be the team's second singles player with Nalbandian reportedly favoring Agustin Calleri over Juan Ignacio Chela, who is expected to be Mancini's choice when lineups are announced Thursday.

But Mancini rejected any suggestion of a rift Wednesday. "We cleared that up today with everyone," Mancini said. "The journalists were speaking without knowing what we were saying. The only thing this does is create doubts and hurt the team. But nothing bad was going on. We are a unified team."

They will need to be, and even if Nalbandian produces enough for an upset, Argentina's victory will be greeted with ambivalence in the tennis world. Too many of their players have tested positive over the years, including Chela, who was suspended for three months in 2001. Canas is also in Moscow as a hitting partner after returning from his reduced suspension in September. Puerta, who is practicing again, is eligible to return next year after having his sanction reduced from eight years to two.

"I don't think this negative idea and image should exist, at least that's what I think," Mancini said. "The way I see it is that what happened was accidental. I believe in the innocence of the guys."

justClaudia
12-01-2006, 01:12 PM
VAMOS DAVID!!!!!!!!!!!

he really really has to win this one .... otherwise. :unsure:

RogiFan88
12-01-2006, 02:32 PM
Vamos, David! up 64 64 on Maratski! only one set to go!! VAMOS!!!!!!!!

Kiank
12-01-2006, 03:15 PM
David won 6-4, 6-4, 6-4!

krystlel
12-01-2006, 03:16 PM
:worship: David won, and in straight sets. I could not have expected any better. From what I have heard on DC radio, sounds like it was an amazing performance. Also, he served out the match to love. :D

I can't wait to watch the match delayed on TV.

RogiFan88
12-01-2006, 03:23 PM
Felicitaciones, David!! WOW, a straight-sets win over Maratski in DC F away fr home... que bien!! ;)

Galathea
12-01-2006, 03:46 PM
:worship: David won, and in straight sets. I could not have expected any better. From what I have heard on DC radio, sounds like it was an amazing performance. Also, he served out the match to love. :D

I can't wait to watch the match delayed on TV.


You don't have any idea of the level David showed today. Not exageration...
Safin was overplayed and looked impotent, not because he was playing bad, but because Nalby's quality.
If he shows this quality regulary, I see more than one Grand Slam for him.

No mental lapsus, not ups and downs... nothing. Do you remember RG semis against Federer when Roger looked impotent? Well, today was better and during the whole match

David: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

sophia_c
12-01-2006, 03:50 PM
:worship: David won, and in straight sets. I could not have expected any better. From what I have heard on DC radio, sounds like it was an amazing performance. Also, he served out the match to love. :D

I can't wait to watch the match delayed on TV.

He played perfect tennis...Vamos for the doubles tomorrow!!!!

lau
12-01-2006, 03:52 PM
David :yeah: :worship:

Seneca
12-01-2006, 04:10 PM
Well... when you've seen Nalbandian win a match with a 2nd service ace then I guess you've seen pretty much everything.

One of his greatest matches in recent memory. Smart, consistent and creative.

Doubles will be the decider tomorrow with Nalby/Calleri having a distinct advantage in that department. Go get your cup, big man.

Argentine girl
12-01-2006, 04:18 PM
Watching him play, it was so exicted as usual.
Today he gives me beyond my expectation.
I hope he will do the mission impossible for the country.

Best of luck to Argentina.

joyk
12-01-2006, 04:25 PM
David was great,he looked totally focused and calm.After the first game(which lasted over 10 minutes) I thought this is going to be a tight match,but Nalby totally ruled from the begininng to the end.He broke Safin in the first game and kept focused even if he had two(short) weaker moments in the 2nd and 3rd sets.He made a couple of stupid mistakes and had some trouble with his first serve but no more than usual and he only made one DF.
Safin was overplayed and looked impotent, not because he was playing bad, but because Nalby's quality.
Marat played like crap,he`s the one who looked under pressure not Nalby.David played well but if Safin would have gotten his act together we could have seen a longer match.

BTW David almost injured himself when he tripped on his left leg.

justClaudia
12-01-2006, 04:25 PM
:banana:


good luck for the doubles tomorow!

blueskye
12-01-2006, 04:25 PM
Nice win by David although I am a fan of Safin's as well ;) ! It can't be easy winning infront of a russian crowd when playing finals! If anyone recorded or is planning to record the match on rerunn, could that person please post the match here as many people without acess to whatever channel it was played on, would love to see it..?:wavey:
It would be greatly appreciated..:angel:

Joyce_23
12-01-2006, 04:31 PM
Great match by our man today!!! I enjoyed watching that....:) He looked confident and served out the match at love. He really surprised me today. :lol: Good luck in the doubles tomorrow, Dave!!! I hope you and Calleri can pull it off.

GinaB
12-01-2006, 04:50 PM
The match against Safin was beautiful. It's true that the Russian was not at his best but a good match from David non the less. He took a few tumbles (and my heart stopped each time) but so did Safin.
I hope he can keep his good form throughout the final.
I am close to cancelling all my weekend plans in order to watch all the matches undisturbed :devil:
Vamos David!!!

Derek1206
12-01-2006, 05:39 PM
Great job David! :clap2:

I'm very excited for Kolya vs. David! :D

sonatinca
12-01-2006, 06:45 PM
OMG! I just came from Olimpiisky :D
I had so much fun!!!!!! Sorry for Flaco but it was obviouse that Kolia was much betterbut I'm glad Chela fought that much in 3d and 4th sets.
But David, he was beyond comparison, and I think he could rise his level any moment. He played so focused! In second set I was afraid that he would start to irritate, but he's got enough strength not to lose control!!!
And he was almost dancing when he won! He went to his fans sectors and thanked them! It was so sweet!
I shuld say everyone told that russians has advantage with their public, but argentinian fans did their best! My friend told that she doesnt feel like she's at home)))) Unfortunatelly in my sector I'm the only one to support agries, so I miss some company, but any way I enjoyed so much!
Hope they will do their best tomorow!
Vamos!

Joyce_23
12-01-2006, 07:14 PM
OMG! I just came from Olimpiisky :D
I had so much fun!!!!!! Sorry for Flaco but it was obviouse that Kolia was much betterbut I'm glad Chela fought that much in 3d and 4th sets.
But David, he was beyond comparison, and I think he could rise his level any moment. He played so focused! In second set I was afraid that he would start to irritate, but he's got enough strength not to lose control!!!
And he was almost dancing when he won! He went to his fans sectors and thanked them! It was so sweet!
I shuld say everyone told that russians has advantage with their public, but argentinian fans did their best! My friend told that she doesnt feel like she's at home)))) Unfortunatelly in my sector I'm the only one to support agries, so I miss some company, but any way I enjoyed so much!
Hope they will do their best tomorow!
Vamos!

Sounds like you had a great time! I hope you're also going tomorrow and have an even better time. :wavey:

sonatinca
12-01-2006, 07:41 PM
Yes, I'm going!
Hope to meet Crystal there ;)

justClaudia
12-01-2006, 10:00 PM
Have a great time tomorow Sona!! And thanks for the report. :hug:

Kiank
12-01-2006, 10:21 PM
Here's the translation of Safin's interview:

- That was your third match against Nalbandian lately. Do you feel something has changed in his game?
- No, nothing really has changed in his or in my game. Simply it's an ideal surface for his game. I have never seen him play that well. On the other hand, I could hardly move. It was tough. I couldn't find my game. In matches of this level you need to feel the court well. Otherwise, it's difficult to win.
- It's not your surface, does it mean you won't play on Sunday?
- No, the thing is, I had some chances today... but again, it's hard for me to play on this surface. But David is very comfortable on such court, and it's simply unreal to beat him here. At the same time, Chela is not feeling comfortable either. Anyway, the score will be 2:1 by Sunday. I hope Kolya then beats Nalbandian, and everything will be over. If I had to play the last match, I'll fight until the very last point.
- So you think it's real to beat Nalbandian?
- Well, if he plays like he did today, Kolya will have some hard time on Sunday. But don't forget, he's in great form as well. He finished Chela pretty easily today. That's why I am expecting an extremely tough match on Sunday, anyone can win.
- Tarpishev said that this surface was carefully selected for our players. Now you are saying it's more convenient for the Argentines. I don't get it.
- I don't want to offend or accuse anyone, but this is the fact. It's a terrible surface for me. It's very different from what we trained on for two last weeks.
During the match I had a negative discussion with Tarpishev, and I'd like to apologize before him. He is older than me and much more experienced. But you have to understand me. I was playing in front of my home crowd, and I wanted to win the match badly, but I was robbed this opportunity because of this surface. I feel really bad right now.
- But how well did Nalbandian play today?
- He played pretty solid, but again, this surface is ideal for him. In addition, he was so lucky several times today, while for me it was one of those bad days. For example, when he literally was helped by the net at 5:4. I wouldn't estimate Nalbandian's game as fantastic, simply I was feeling very unconfortable on this court.
- What kind of discussion did you have with Tarpishev?
- It's between me and him. I don't want to talk about that. But I regret he didn't understand me correctly. Let's say we just had a different vision of things. But I respect him and I'd like to apologize.
- Your former coach Peter Lungren was here today. What did he tell you after the match?
- Nothing surprising that he was here to support me. We worked together for such a long time. We just discussed the match, that's it.
- What about the incredible support of the Argentine fans?
- I was really impressed, they deserve great respect... They were only two hundred people or so, but were supporting their team in such a frenzy way during both matches.
- Were they bothering you?
- No, I was just really surprised.

gravity
12-01-2006, 10:43 PM
South American fans are absolutely the best! :p I was in the Aerelineas Airlines ticket office today trying to get my flight to the beach booked. It took ages, plenty of people were walking to and from televisions, crowding around, it reminded me a little of the world cup when I was here. (Must emphasise A LITTLE, because nothing grips Argentina like the Football World Cup) But I did get to see some of the tennis while I waited, I was surprised and happy to see David win that match. Argentina has a great chance with Safin mentally all over the place again.

If Argentina wins, I wonder if we'll see posters of the actual team, or Maradona celebrating plasted across the city...... :lol:

lau
12-02-2006, 12:25 AM
Here's the translation of Safin's interview:

Thank you very much for the translation :yeah:
Would you post the source for me? :)

Viken01
12-02-2006, 01:16 AM
i saw some points and david was just amazing... i wish i could get the whole match. good luck for the doubles and VAMOS DAVID !

RogiFan88
12-02-2006, 03:24 AM
:) Viva Argentina!! VAMOS DAVID y AGUSTIN!!! http://1000smilies.com/flag/argentina.gif

novanora
12-02-2006, 07:23 AM
Ok, here's my pm to Chabela, but since i have little time to use the internet, i paster here as a very short report to u all:

I am in Russia now!! yesterday's match is GREAT!!! i mean the atmosphere! i never experience such atmosphere in a tennis match! :p somewhat like a soccer match! YES, I saw Maradona and his big cheering team, and other Argentinian fans! WOW!!! And the most important, David played great!!! He looked so happy after his winning!! and Chela didn't play bad either, but Davydenko is too strong...

Here the internet access is not so convenient in my hotel, so i can only talk a little, but will give the report when i came back!!

Byeeeee!

paschan
12-02-2006, 09:55 AM
I hope they will win today but I dont understand why they play Calleri. They should have included Chucho for doubles. Hes better. I hope they dont play chela sunday..

Come on Nalby, take home three points

jazz_girl
12-02-2006, 10:11 AM
Just a quick translation before I have to leave:
http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=01320306&fecha=20061202

PETER LUNDGREN:
I'm here in Moscow as a fan of the DC final, but I'm helping Marat a bit without getting in the middle of the team. I have great respect for David, I think he's one of the best players there are today and against Safin he played one of the best matches in his life. Yes, similar to what he did when I coached Roger Federer and he always beated us, haha.

I really like nalbandian, he's a good guy and they put a carpet just like the one in Basel, where he won twice. So, instead of feeling unconfortable, he likes it.. Argentina's standing strong after the first day.
Would you train David?
It would be great, but for now I have a contract with the British Tennis asociation to be the DC captain. First we have to beat Holland, go up to the World Group and then, maybe in the future we might have to play against you (argentina).

Joyce_23
12-02-2006, 10:15 AM
Decent guy that Lundgren...:lol: Although the part about beating Holland was less decent...:) We want to get back in the worldgroup too to face Argentina!
As for today....Vamos David and Augustin!!!

gravity
12-02-2006, 05:48 PM
Russia won the third rubber 6-2 6-3 6-3. Sounds like from the reports I saw David and Agustin both had a useless day. (while I was sleeping recovering from the night before) Makes it very difficult to see Argentina winning now, but hopefully David will take care of Davydenko, then Safin has another bad day and continues his bitching with the choice of surface.

As for Lungren, he's taken on an impossible job coaching the one-man British team. But he's probably on a very lucrative contract and wont be leaving until he's seen that out. (or he's fired)

Well it's bright and sunny here today so I'm going to a famous Argentine Asado pool party. :yeah:

Kiank
12-02-2006, 05:49 PM
Thank you very much for the translation :yeah:
Would you post the source for me? :)

You're welcome Lau. Here's the source: http://sport.gazeta.ru/sport/2006/12/a_1109574.shtml

sonatinca
12-02-2006, 07:59 PM
paschan
Maybe they choose Agustin to keep Chucho fresh for deciding point.

Well, I should say David was very nervous and clamped, I think the presure on him is too much. Hope he will manage it tomorow, it's the only chance for him. Agustin was playing better, but he also had some problems with the serve.
Dont know who will play deciding point, but tomorow will be rally hard day.
Vamos Argentina!

Galathea
12-02-2006, 08:31 PM
As I said at the general forum, and based in the comments that an argentine journalist heard from David to Mancini, seems that David was okay, but the problem was he couldn't feel the ball impact on his raquet.
It's not a *chronical* problem or a *defect*, is more a casualty that happens sometimes in dobles (never heard of it on singles, don't know if some of you do), mostly because the rhythm and the players positions.

It's a really strange feeling. And unpleasent as hell.
It happened to me twice: one at trainning and one in a match (doubles always). The worst is you are doing the things right, technically right. I mean, at least what i saw when I wached the video of that play (because you can't believe what's happening so I checked after to see it), what I wanted to do was correct and the body posture was okay.... The problem, for some reason (nobody could explain it to me and from my coach's comments and things other people told me, nobody knows why sometimes that happens exactly) you see the ball comming, you prepare the "hit" but.... you can't feel the impact of the ball so you don't know really how the ball is comming (in term of speed, effect, etc).. It's like you have some anestesic in your hand and raquet (it sounds weird and crazy but you feel throught the raquet, don't know how to explain it on English). Like when you use algispray? that body part doesn't exist? Well, it's like that.

And you can't fix it, you don't have time, at least in doubles. What can save you is a really good partner (Nalbandian tried to pass the post to Calleri to comand and Agustin tried but he wasn't doing it well either) or a really bad rival... well in this case the russian were really good. And in my case that didn't happen either :sad:

I didn't find David nervous, he looked okay. More, he looked surprised by his lack of response. He didn't look frustrated or angry like against Federer with his bad serve.. he just looked like couldn't believe it. That just confirmed that what the journalist was saying was true..
And it's a shocking moment, trust me. You simply don't know what you're doing wrong. That "lack of feeling" causes a nule precision. Not even bad aim, it's like every hit is wrong, and the ball ends short (mostly at the bottom of the net) or long (out).

The good news? It's something casual, from that moment. It affects you but it's more the surprise than a real worry because, as I said first there's not time (the match ends quickly on those cases) and second you're way too much surprised... I remember having to play the single after that double, an hour later... I won it 6-1;6-2 against a better ranked girl. And after that, I had no more problem in doubles, never could explain it. I was not nervous or tense or anything...

It's horrible, and I can't even think what David and the rest of the team must be feeling (specially him that knows he was the reason) at this level of competition. it's a pity because, he played soo good yesterday and it could look like more of his irregular play or even choking, when is not related.

Anybody heard who will play against who tomorrow? Because all the version I'm reading/hearing are incredible: Marat not playing, Davydenko playing, Davydenko not playing... any one heard something reliable?

Kiank
12-02-2006, 10:56 PM
It's like you have some anestesic in your hand and raquet (it sounds weird and crazy but you feel throught the raquet, don't know how to explain it on English). Like when you use algispray? that body part doesn't exist? Well, it's like that.




In my opinion, this kind of "anestesic" always happens in one's head, not in one's hand or racket. Here's his interview from the same source.

David Nalbandian: No night clubs tonight

David Nalbandian admitted that Argentina didn't have a single chance to win the doubles match, while Agustin Calleri says that Safin and Tursunov won mainly because of their solid return game.
- Yesteray you played a fantastic match against Safin. What happened today?
- I didn't feel as well. I didn't have the same spirit like yesterday. It's not the end of the world, anything happens in tennis.
- How often did you play with Calleri?
- Very often, including the Davis Cup matches. I don't even know how many times.
- So how do you explain that Russians were able to win in such a convincing way?
- They served pretty well, and we couldn't return well. Both Safin and Tursunov were returning very well. They were very confident from the very beginning and dominated the entire match.
- Did you have any chances to break them?
- Not a single chance.
- What can you say about Safin's game?
- He played very well. Great serve, and he was a real leader of their team. That was very important.
- Only once in the Davis Cup history a team could win the final tie and claim the title after losing the doubles match. That was 4 years ago at "Bercy". After losing that match, Safin spent the night at a night club. Do you plan something like that tonight?
- No, I am getting ready for tomorrow's match in a different way.

Galathea
12-02-2006, 11:43 PM
In my opinion, this kind of "anestesic" always happens in one's head, not in one's hand or racket. Here's his interview from the same source.


Of course it happens in the head of the player. It's the feeling you get that I was describing. Not that actually you have algispray or anesthesia in your hand or raquet :rolleyes: I'm not talking about cramps or anything... your body is fine and you're okay.
What I meant is, sometimes you feel more nervous, sometimes you don't feel comfortable on the court because the surface, or when you have a problem with one hit in particular you know is a technic problem, a momentary one, but you know what it is and maybe why.

In my case, what happened TO ME, is that you don't find an explanation for that. I wasn't tense or nervous, the surface was fast and I was more than okay with that. I felt that my posture in every hit was correct (and I corroborated later by checking the video).. I just didn't know why I didn't feel the ball. When you're having problems in some hits you feel you're doing something wrong physically, maybe by millimeters. Maybe you can't identify what it is in that moment, but you know, you feel you're doing something different.

What I'm talking about is a "eh?" feeling everytime the ball ends short or out. It's a totally weird feeling, because as I said you feel your idea, your plan is correct, the way you're going to make the hit is correct, but for some reason, that of course it's mental ( everything is mental.. the physical incorrections are mental), you don't feel the impact, and goodbye!. Why does it happens? Why you mind plays YOU that way? In my case I didn't know, and never knew. As I said, I played less than an hour after that double, with more pressure if you want having to win or the tie was lost and I was perfect.
I could have better moments than others, but I'm not exactly the type of froze or scare. Not in tennis, I liked a lot playing doubles and less in hockey. (didn't end playing at the seleccion for nothing).
It's not even playing bad, or at least when I played bad I knew what I was doing wrong. In that match? :confused: Never knew why.
Just saying, that for some reason, that happens. Even when you're used to play doubles without problems and maybe under more difficult situations than what that happens...

RogiFan88
12-03-2006, 03:06 AM
VAMOS, DAVID!!!!

Sunday is do or die day...

novanora
12-03-2006, 07:04 AM
Yes, I'm going!
Hope to meet Crystal there ;)

HI Aliona!!! we did meet finally!!!! :lol: it's really nice to meet u and cheer together with the Arg fans!! i mean we were almost crazy!!!! :p It's a pity Argentina lost the doubles, but it's not over yet!! give them the trust, just like we said yesterday, they are Argentinians, they can win the whole match even against a lot of match points!!

:woohoo: VAMOS ARGENTINA VAMOS DAVEE!!

Joyce_23
12-03-2006, 09:54 AM
HI Aliona!!! we did meet finally!!!! :lol: it's really nice to meet u and cheer together with the Arg fans!! i mean we were almost crazy!!!! :p It's a pity Argentina lost the doubles, but it's not over yet!! give them the trust, just like we said yesterday, they are Argentinians, they can win the whole match even against a lot of match points!!

:woohoo: VAMOS ARGENTINA VAMOS DAVEE!!

I hope your support will get them through it...:) Cheer your longs out for them, they need it! Vamos Dave and Argentina!!!!!!!!!

Derek1206
12-03-2006, 01:20 PM
Wow, great job David. :D

gravity
12-03-2006, 02:15 PM
Well done David you sexy animal!!! :smooch:

Don't think Chucho will overcome Safin though. But I'm going to a bar, if I don't watch maybe some miracle will happen........ :sad:

Joyce_23
12-03-2006, 02:48 PM
Don't think Chucho will overcome Safin though. But I'm going to a bar, if I don't watch maybe some miracle will happen........ :sad:

I like your way of thinking...;) I David ever reaches a Slam final again I'm going to a bar and hope that me getting really drunk will help him. :lol: Hmm...You'd think he would have won more by now if that was the case.:D

joyk
12-03-2006, 04:04 PM
Beautiful performance today from David,and I`m not just talking about the tennis but also about the fact that he took the defeat really well and dignified,congratulating the Russians and comforting Acasuso when he was crying.I actually expected David to cry a little considering he put so much effort and heart into this,but I guess he`s not the crying type.

RogiFan88
12-03-2006, 04:14 PM
:wavey: Good effort ARG! David sums it up here... ;)

Galathea
12-03-2006, 04:15 PM
Beautiful performance today from David,and I`m not just talking about the tennis but also about the fact that he took the defeat really well and dignified,congratulating the Russians and comforting Acasuso when he was crying.I actually expected David to cry a little considering he put so much effort and heart into this,but I guess he`s not the crying type.

He cried when he lost against Safin in his debut as single player at the DC. Was in 2002, and he played in gaudio's place (because he lost his single in a painfull and really shameful way) so David has to try to be the hero against Safin in his best in the 3 point with Russia 2-1 (after winning the double match in a heroic way). It was like today with Acasuso, an exceptional performance. So he knows what Chucho was feeling and also now, he can value what he did at that time... It's incredible that David and Chucho have the same age... He looked like the older brother there. that's an example of how he is as a person.

GinaB
12-03-2006, 04:28 PM
They lost :bigcry:
I'm so disappointed :sad:
I don't think Chucho was a bad choice for the decider and he played well. Too bad he couldn't do more. Safin was really determined.

Eventhough I was sad, I enjoyed the time when the two teams greeted each other after the last match. It showed sportsmanship from both sides and was nice to see them congratulate each other.
Also, the support the Argies showed Chucho in the end was great. It wasn't his fault and they stood by him. He isn't one of my favourites but I was sorry to see him in tears like that.

Despite the result I think they did a good job!

gooner88
12-03-2006, 04:41 PM
Well done Russia.
Nalbo should be proud of his efforts over the weekend. To win 2 singles matches away from home against quality opposition is a great achievement. Just a shame Argentina couldn't find that third point.

Kiank
12-03-2006, 04:50 PM
Well, a disappointing loss for Argentina, but a positive end of year for David. He played great in both singles matches and was a real leader of his team. Best of luck to him in 2007. Careful preparation, mental training, total focus, serious maturation, no rallies, some fishing is allowed, no doubles matches, no injuries, more intense schedule, consider moving away from Argentina for a while, possibly new coach, totally new attitude, couple of Grand Slams.

gooner88
12-03-2006, 05:19 PM
Well, a disappointing loss for Argentina, but a positive end of year for David. He played great in both singles matches and was a real leader of his team. Best of luck to him in 2007. Careful preparation, mental training, total focus, serious maturation, no rallies, some fishing is allowed, no doubles matches, no injuries, more intense schedule, consider moving away from Argentina for a while, possibly new coach, totally new attitude, couple of Grand Slams.

:haha: I hope he does most of what is on your list but I doubt it, especially the part about no rallies. ;)

sophia_c
12-03-2006, 05:28 PM
Well done Russia.
Nalbo should be proud of his efforts over the weekend. To win 2 singles matches away from home against quality opposition is a great achievement. Just a shame Argentina couldn't find that third point.



I agree..he played out of his skin and I hope 2007 is his year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julio1974
12-03-2006, 11:35 PM
I think David is ending the year with the sensation he came back to his level, after a dissapointing second half of the year. Let's see if he is willing to make the effort next year to win a GS.

wenty
12-04-2006, 12:27 AM
Congratulations to Russia...
All credit to Nalby for doing great in his singles matches, and hats off to Jose for taking Safin to 4 sets.

Ah well, theres always next year...

krystlel
12-04-2006, 02:06 AM
I think everyone's summed it up nicely. I was proud of David and the efforts of the rest of the Argentinean team. I was very impressed with Acasuso for his performance, but Russia were too good in the end. The tie ended on a high note and the whole weekend was an excellent example of the magic of Davis Cup and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and listening on radio.

Kiank
12-04-2006, 05:08 AM
:haha: I hope he does most of what is on your list but I doubt it, especially the part about no rallies. ;)
Alas you're right!:)

Argentine girl
12-04-2006, 02:51 PM
http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2006-12-02/118.php

December 2nd, 2006

Davis Cup Final Going Down to the Wire; Just No TV, No Canas

by Sean Randall

This weekend marks the finals of the Davis Cup between Russia and Argentina. Of course you wouldn’t know it if you live in the U.S. and don’t have the Tennis Channel, because the tie isn’t on. Imagine that.

But since it’s the holidays I won’t go into my lack-of-tennis-on-tv-in-the-U.S. rant. I’ll save that for later.

Quite an incredible day one, really. After an expected Davydenko blow out over Chela, Nalbandian came through huge for the Argies but putting a straight set beat down on Safin. Marat wasn’t happy after taking shots at the selection of the medium-paced synthetic court, which he said suited David just fine.

But give credit to Nalbandian for playing some pretty sound tennis. When he’s on Nalbandian’s clearly one of the best ball strikers in the game and I’d put his two-hander up against anyone’s.

I know he gets a lot of heat for not being as razor-thin as say his countryman Chela, but the guy can grind. Plus ya got to feel for him after losing his 9-year-old godson in an elevator accident just last month.

As for tomorrow, with Russia now up 2-1 following their doubles win this afternoon, decisions will need to be made. Assuming Nalbandian takes care of Davydenko – which is very possible given David’s won three straight - in the first match, Argentina is going to need someone to beat Safin and win it, and it isn’t Chela. The last time Chela won a big match was somewhere around never (I can’t think of one, can you?).

Too bad Canas is riding the bench. I would play him. As a practice partner I don’t think he can play. And as a doper he would have surely gotten into Safin’s head, plus he’s beaten the Russian twice before. So I guess Argentina could and should go with Acasuso, who’s a perfect 3-0 in D-Cup singles play this year including a five set win over Hewitt, and if that’s not enough he sports a 2-1 head-to-head edge over Marat. Heck I would play fat Maradona over Chela.

In the Russian camp I can’t see Shamil taking out the World No. 3, Davydenko, in favor of the flaky Tursunov. I know Dmitry won a big one against the U.S. over Roddick but you probably have to go with your top guy, and right now that’s Nikolay.

Either way, it should be fun. Just which I could watch it all go down.

gravity
12-04-2006, 06:26 PM
We're going into another year filled with optimism. :lol: I haven't forgotten my time in Melbourne in January (after the YEC last year). We all believed David was going to get to the final, then he blew up in that match with Baghdatis and everything fell apart. He has so much natural ability he should be competing with Federer and Nadal for every major title. It's so frustrating to see.

sonatinca
12-05-2006, 08:17 PM
HI Aliona!!! we did meet finally!!!! :lol: it's really nice to meet u and cheer together with the Arg fans!! i mean we were almost crazy!!!! :p It's a pity Argentina lost the doubles, but it's not over yet!! give them the trust, just like we said yesterday, they are Argentinians, they can win the whole match even against a lot of match points!!

:woohoo: VAMOS ARGENTINA VAMOS DAVEE!!
Hi, Crystal!
I finally found your message)))
It was great on sunday!!!!
Hope you're gonna have nice trip back home ;)
Vamos, vamos Argentina!

gooner88
12-06-2006, 11:05 PM
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/12/6/sports/16233817&sec=sports

Nalbandian earns respect for his Davis Cup performance

MOSCOW: David Nalbandian has finally earned the respect he deserves.

Despite winning last year’s Masters Cup and reaching the 2002 Wimbledon final, the Argentine has long been in the shadow of the game’s biggest stars.

But Nalbandian’s spectacular performance in the Davis Cup final against Russia over the weekend suggests that he is ready to challenge the tennis elite.

While Argentina were left disappointed after losing the final to Russia 3-2, Nalbandian’s superb tennis won many accolades from fellow players and both captains.

“I can’t say enough about David’s performance,” Argentina captain Alberto Mancini told reporters on Sunday.

“I’m proud of every member of the team because they left everything on the court, but David deserves special praise.

“He was unbelievable, just super all three days, he kept us in the tie until the last match,” said Mancini.

Nalbandian won both of his singles matches, first crushing former world number one Marat Safin in straight sets on Friday, then overwhelming world number three Nikolay Davydenko in Sunday’s opener to level the three-day tie at 2-2.

After losing his match 6-2, 6-2, 4-6, 6-4, Davydenko conceded he was simply outplayed by the Argentine number one.

“To be honest, I was ready to lose in three sets,” the Russian number one said.”He dominated the whole match and even after winning the third set I didn’t think I had much of a chance. Even if I won the fourth, I don’t think I could have lasted much longer.”

The only blemish on the otherwise perfect weekend for Nalbandian was losing Saturday’s doubles with teammate Agustin Calleri to Safin and Dmitry Tursunov.

Mancini said that defeat had decided the final outcome.

“The doubles match was the key to the tie,” he said. “If we had won on Saturday, coupled with David’s great form, it would have given us an almost 80% chance of winning the tie. It was a big, big point for them.”

Russia’s Davis Cup captain Shamil Tarpishchev was equally lavish in his praise of Nalbandian, singling him out for his work ethic and consistency.

“Nalbandian has turned into a complete player,” said Tarpishchev, who led Russia to their second Davis Cup title.

“He showed that he could play on any surface. Even before the tie, I knew he was their biggest threat and he proved just that. He may lack the star appeal of some of the game’s biggest names, like (Roger) Federer, (Rafael) Nadal, (Andy) Roddick or Safin, but his game is up there with the best.”

Roddick lost both of his singles matches in a 3-2 Davis Cup semi-final defeat by Russia on Moscow clay in September, first going down to Safin, then losing a five-set battle to Tursunov that sealed the tie.

“He (Nalbandian) is better than Roddick, certainly more versatile than the American,” Tarpishchev said. “I have feared him more than anyone else. We were just lucky to win the doubles on Saturday, otherwise we would have been in big trouble.” – Reuters

chabela
12-07-2006, 03:42 PM
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/12/6/sports/16233817&sec=sports

Nalbandian earns respect for his Davis Cup performance



Thank you gooner, this article is the first non-argentines that talks about Nalby. :yeah:

:wavey:

Kiank
12-07-2006, 06:55 PM
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/12/6/sports/16233817&sec=sports

Nalbandian earns respect for his Davis Cup performance

MOSCOW: David Nalbandian has finally earned the respect he deserves.

Despite winning last year’s Masters Cup and reaching the 2002 Wimbledon final, the Argentine has long been in the shadow of the game’s biggest stars.

But Nalbandian’s spectacular performance in the Davis Cup final against Russia over the weekend suggests that he is ready to challenge the tennis elite.

While Argentina were left disappointed after losing the final to Russia 3-2, Nalbandian’s superb tennis won many accolades from fellow players and both captains.

“I can’t say enough about David’s performance,” Argentina captain Alberto Mancini told reporters on Sunday.

“I’m proud of every member of the team because they left everything on the court, but David deserves special praise.

“He was unbelievable, just super all three days, he kept us in the tie until the last match,” said Mancini.

Nalbandian won both of his singles matches, first crushing former world number one Marat Safin in straight sets on Friday, then overwhelming world number three Nikolay Davydenko in Sunday’s opener to level the three-day tie at 2-2.

After losing his match 6-2, 6-2, 4-6, 6-4, Davydenko conceded he was simply outplayed by the Argentine number one.

“To be honest, I was ready to lose in three sets,” the Russian number one said.”He dominated the whole match and even after winning the third set I didn’t think I had much of a chance. Even if I won the fourth, I don’t think I could have lasted much longer.”

The only blemish on the otherwise perfect weekend for Nalbandian was losing Saturday’s doubles with teammate Agustin Calleri to Safin and Dmitry Tursunov.

Mancini said that defeat had decided the final outcome.

“The doubles match was the key to the tie,” he said. “If we had won on Saturday, coupled with David’s great form, it would have given us an almost 80% chance of winning the tie. It was a big, big point for them.”

Russia’s Davis Cup captain Shamil Tarpishchev was equally lavish in his praise of Nalbandian, singling him out for his work ethic and consistency.

“Nalbandian has turned into a complete player,” said Tarpishchev, who led Russia to their second Davis Cup title.

“He showed that he could play on any surface. Even before the tie, I knew he was their biggest threat and he proved just that. He may lack the star appeal of some of the game’s biggest names, like (Roger) Federer, (Rafael) Nadal, (Andy) Roddick or Safin, but his game is up there with the best.”

Roddick lost both of his singles matches in a 3-2 Davis Cup semi-final defeat by Russia on Moscow clay in September, first going down to Safin, then losing a five-set battle to Tursunov that sealed the tie.

“He (Nalbandian) is better than Roddick, certainly more versatile than the American,” Tarpishchev said. “I have feared him more than anyone else. We were just lucky to win the doubles on Saturday, otherwise we would have been in big trouble.” – Reuters

Thanks for the article, Gooner. David indeed performed brilliantly in both singles matches and deserved the respect of the tennis world. Unfortunately, -I wish he could listen to me, as I repeated that ten thousand times - he keeps playing doubles, which is not his thing. Any other combination would have played at the same level than Calleri-Nalbandian: Acasuso-Chela, Del-Potro-Canas, or whoever with whoever. Next year, David needs to keep his focus exclusively on singles.

Hola Mr. SK
12-10-2006, 02:32 PM
well played, David! Keep up and get a slam title next year.

chabela
12-14-2006, 10:10 PM
I found this articles in Peter Bodo's blogs (they are in ESPN).

I like Peter, but he write very long articles. I hope you enjoy them

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Safin still has passion

by: Kamakshi Tandon, TENNIS.com
posted: Wednesday, December 6, 2006

If there's anything you can count on during Davis Cup action, it's those spontaneous, affirming, "I love this game" moments.
In last weekend's final between Russia and Argentina, that moment duly arrived late in the fourth set between Russia's Marat Safin and Argentina's Jose Acasuso -- an extraordinary point featuring a risky between-the-legs lob thrown up by Acasuso, a desperate backhand lunge from Safin and, finally, a deft winner from Acasuso at net.

I love this game.

How could these two keep ratcheting up the level of play as they went deeper and deeper into the match, with the stakes so high and the pressure so immense?

The crowds, as always, were electric. Each side also had a national icon in the stands -- former leader and tennis fanatic Boris Yeltsin urged Russia on, while superstar soccer player Diego Maradona chanted, cheered and clapped along with a small but demonstrative group of compatriots.

Tension and tennis rose in tandem till the fourth set reached a tiebreak and Acasuso finally sent a petrified forehand into the net, giving Russia its first Davis Cup championship on home soil.

While Safin was quickly surrounded by his teammates and hoisted into the air, Acasuso trudged back to his chair and wept. His face was still tear-stained afterwards. "I'm sad for having lost. I'm sad because I gave it a 100 percent," he said. "I feel sad because we did everything, we were so close to it."

We. We were so close to it.

It's the word that makes Davis Cup pressure unique. Normally, players seek greatness for themselves, by themselves, and in situations of their own making. But in Davis Cup, a player can be suddenly plucked from the sidelines and thrust into a situation that demands greatness -- from the player, but for the nation.

That's the situation Acasuso found himself in on Sunday afternoon in Moscow, having sat out the first two days of the tie before being called into duty for the fifth and final match. He watched from the bench as the teams split Friday's singles, Russia won the doubles on Saturday, and Argentina rebounded to even the score by taking the first singles on Sunday. That sent the tie into one of the most spine-tingling occasions in tennis -- a live fifth rubber.

Fail to win, and Acasuso wouldn't just be letting himself down -- he would be letting down teammate David Nalbandian, who had brilliantly and belligerently led Argentina into the final and then played through a recent family tragedy to win two superb matches against the Russians. He would be letting down Argentina, which was trying to win tennis' biggest team competition for the first time and shake off a reputation for being weak when playing away from home. And of course, he would be letting down Maradona.

Hence the tears. Inexperienced Davis Cup players who have lost a live fifth rubber in the final bear the scars for years -- think of talented youngster Paul-Henri Mathieu or the late-blooming, big-serving Wayne Arthurs. Even those who win, like Mikhail Youzhny, can struggle under the resulting burden of expectation.

This time around, it's Safin's turn to bear that burden of expectation. For the two-time Grand Slam winner, it's not about whether he can compete with the best in the game (he defeated Roger Federer on his way to his second Slam title), but about whether he can consistently do justice to his almost peerless talent.

Last month, playing his last regular tournament of the season, Safin sounded disconsolate. "It has been a terrible year for me … disappointments following disappointments," said the world No. 26. When reminded about Davis Cup success, he responded, "Yeah, but who cares?"

On Sunday, his contented face said otherwise. "It motivates you well to stay in tennis and to continue your career," he reflected afterwards. "The victory in the Davis Cup is about one of the best events in one's career."

He also joked that shaking Maradona's hand on Saturday had given him luck. Their brief encounter led to Safin coming up with tennis' one-liner of the year. "It was a great honor for me to shake the hand with which he scored the goal." The soccer player is infamous for scoring a goal using his hand during the 1986 World Cup and then denying it by saying that the only hand involved had been the "hand of God."

Will the team's victory be a launching pad for individual success from Safin next season? Not even he knows. Injuries continue to hamper the big Russian, and the mental prospects still bearish. But on one thing, at least, his colleagues should be forewarned: Safin loves this game again.
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Tarpischev didn't over-coach

by: Peter Bodo, TENNIS.com
posted: Monday, December 4, 2006

It's official -- they blew the final whistle on tennis for 2006 in Moscow on Sunday, and it couldn't have come much later. Russia and Argentina (the Boston Red Sox of Davis Cup: 52 years played, zero final-round wins) went down to the wire, with Marat Safin rescuing a dodgy year with a four-set win over Jose "Chucho" Acasuso in the fifth and deciding rubber.
The outcome was a tribute to the unique, compelling nature of Davis Cup in a couple of ways. Playing with your nation's name on the scoreboard (instead of your own), with a bench full of hopeful teammates and a coach looking on, and a sometimes frenzied crowd hanging on your every forehand -- in either a good way (win one for us who adore you!) or a bad one (take that stinkin' crapola back to Argentina, you Pompous Paramour of the Pampas!) -- fills Davis Cup with elements you won't find on Court 11 at the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center (USTABJKNTC for short), which is the customary habitat of some Davis Cup heroes, or even on Centre Court at Wimbledon.

In Davis Cup, you don't need to win three or four or six matches to emerge as a national hero, the way you might with a good run at a tournament, even a Grand Slam event. All you need to do is play out of your gourd at one critical moment and, in almost every nation, with the possible exception of the U.S., you're an overnight rock star. Just ask Mikhail Youzhny, who in 2002 made Russia only the 10th nation to win the Cup with a gut-wrenching five-set win over Paul-Henri Mathieu of France in the fifth and final match.

Or ask Chucho, who sat on the Argentine bench, clutching his head with both hands, while the Russian squad lofted Safin on its shoulders and paraded him around the Olympic Stadium for the faithful Muscovites.

It was probably a mistake that Argentina chose to play a guy who was making just his third singles start in Davis Cup. Sure, Acasuso was 2-0 going in, ranked No. 27 (one measly notch below Safin), and armed with a 2-1 head-to-head against Safin. Sure, Juan Ignacio Chela got waxed, but good, by Nikolay Davydenko in the first match of this tie. Sure, Acasuso is a flashy ball striker who (unlike Chela) may be more confident and dangerous on faster, hard and indoor-carpet surfaces. But throwing Acasuso into the critical match seemed a desperation move, with Tora! Tora! Tora! written all over it.

Granted, Chela struggled in that first match with Kolya the Obscure. But he had the redemption motive going, along with a feeling for the court and a few hours of match play to purge his nerves. Acasuso was a curveball to throw at Safin. But you're in trouble when the basis of your game plan is trying to throw off your opponent; it's reactive and, in this case, it puts a load of pressure on your guy, who goes in feeling like a lab rat.

By contrast, Russian captain Shamil Tarpischev played it straight, and his thought process could have gone something like this: OK, Safin has struggled this year. He stunk the joint out even worse than that guy Chela in his first match. (Safin lost to David Nalbandian in three listless sets on the first day of competition.) I could get cute, and go with, oh, Dmitry Tursunov, who had such a hot hand in our last tie …

But, as he explained later: "What spoke in favor of Marat was the expertise he had in such matches. He went through all the trials and tribulations in his career. He had more expertise. It was clear to me that he could be playing a bit worse or a bit better, but he can't just fail in such kind of match."

In this, Tarpischev was observing Rule No. 1 of coaching: don't over-coach. As a result, Russia won its second Davis Cup in four final rounds since 1994. How do you say "Vince Lombardi" in Russian?
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Mili
12-15-2006, 08:35 PM
Thanks a lot for the article!!!