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ATP extend Shanghai deal...

jayjay
11-16-2006, 07:27 PM
to 2008, with an option for 2009.

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=502293

LaTenista
11-16-2006, 07:57 PM
This is crazy, why should Shanghai host TMC for 5 years straight?

Before this, Houston had it for 2 years, Lisbon and Sydney only 1 each.

Jimnik
11-16-2006, 07:59 PM
I thought the current deal already lasted until 2008.

jayjay
11-16-2006, 08:02 PM
I thought the current deal already lasted until 2008.

The ATP spokesman quoted said the deal was only for 3 years. 2005-2007. Shanghai have to let ATP know by beginning of next year if they want to pick up the 2009 option.

Jimnik
11-16-2006, 08:11 PM
The ATP want it to return to Europe for 2009, no?

jazar
11-16-2006, 08:16 PM
i thought they wanted it to return to europe before 2009 cos they were talking about having it in london

jayjay
11-16-2006, 08:31 PM
The ATP want it to return to Europe for 2009, no?

That's what they said I believe, but hasn't worked out like that. Unless of course Shanghai choose not to take up their option. Given the success of the tournament so far this year - after last year's withdrawals chaos - I would think they will take that option up.

smucav
11-16-2006, 08:39 PM
I thought the current deal already lasted until 2008.Correct. The one-year extention to the original deal for 2005-2007 was announced on March 14, 2006:

http://www.masters-cup.com/2/news/shanghai_extension.asp

Geniey2g
11-16-2006, 08:53 PM
That's what they said I believe, but hasn't worked out like that. Unless of course Shanghai choose not to take up their option. Given the success of the tournament so far this year - after last year's withdrawals chaos - I would think they will take that option up.
*cries*
I wanted it to come to London :(

I have to give those Chinese fans their props, though; they're very supportive toward every player. Dedicated fans.

By the way: who is that in ur avatar? And may I have a copy?? :D

Jlee
11-16-2006, 09:28 PM
Boo, the time change kills me. :lol:

Agassi Aces
11-16-2006, 09:44 PM
Well, hopefully it will come to London from 2010??? I hope so!!

bluefork
11-16-2006, 09:52 PM
Boo, the time change kills me. :lol:

Me too, but at least it's not at a time when I have to go to class or work.

Jlee
11-16-2006, 09:55 PM
Me too, but at least it's not at a time when I have to go to class or work.

Nope, only the time when I'd like to be sleeping :p

Pfloyd
11-16-2006, 10:01 PM
It's quite amazing.

The best countries in the world for tennis players are: USA, Spain, France, Australia and of course, Argentina, Brasil and Chile.

They have important events all over the world but not one single Master Series or Grandslam in the latin countries.

It makes the ATP look bad IMO. The Masters Cup should head to the southern americas....

nobama
11-16-2006, 11:22 PM
It's quite amazing.

The best countries in the world for tennis players are: USA, Spain, France, Australia and of course, Argentina, Brasil and Chile.

They have important events all over the world but not one single Master Series or Grandslam in the latin countries.

It makes the ATP look bad IMO. The Masters Cup should head to the southern americas....Follow the money....

jayjay
11-16-2006, 11:59 PM
By the way: who is that in ur avatar? And may I have a copy?? :D

It's Victoria Vanucci. She did a tennis themed playboy shoot. You can see the pics here, all very tasteful of course.

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=283999&IdxSeccion=600795

Fedex
11-17-2006, 12:38 AM
I like how the the event is run over there in Shanghai. The tournement directors are doing a great job. :yeah:The fans really show there support too; they always have large crowds. But that being said, I think the tournement should move around abit more. We had it in Houston for two years, and Shanghai for atleast 3. I also remember this event being played in Germany for a number of years in the 1990's.

haas'luv
11-17-2006, 03:52 AM
:devil: kool buuuuuut i want it come to toronto next yr coz i'll be there for ma study soon;) (well i know i cant be 2 *selfish* tho)

mangoes
11-17-2006, 05:19 AM
Rediculous..........that the ATP is keeping this tournament in Shanghai for an extended period of time. This is turning into a Shanghai tournament instead of a year end event that is moved to different venues.

R.Federer
11-17-2006, 05:24 AM
Interesting. Well, maybe it's with the bigger picture of securing big deals down the line in an enormous market (with huge TV broadcast potential), that is driving the ATP. I know that they were trying their best to capitalize with Mirza's success (is there any success recently?) in India, also an enormous market.

CmonAussie
11-17-2006, 05:28 AM
I like how the the event is run over there in Shanghai. The tournement directors are doing a great job. :yeah:The fans really show there support too; they always have large crowds. But that being said, I think the tournement should move around abit more. We had it in Houston for two years, and Shanghai for atleast 3. I also remember this event being played in Germany for a number of years in the 1990's.
:wavey:
The ATP has to make a choice!!

Either keep the TMC in Shanghai or give China an AMS tourney instead:confused:
>>>
It seems that none of the current AMS tourneys want to give up their prestigious place on the calendar~~>> therefore the ATP Tour will probably keep the TMC in Shanghai until one of the AMS tourneys goes bankrupt:eek: .. Then China will get an AMS [i prefer Shanghai but Beijing might get it] & the TMC will probably move to London:p

This could all take up to 5-years, because as we`ve seen in the past nothing happens in a hurry & if it does then it usually ruffles too many feathers:sad:

Asmus
11-17-2006, 05:28 AM
I went to the Shanghai tournament last year and was very impressed with the stadium--which was built just for this event by the way--as well as how well-promoted it was in the city and how organized the tournament was.

Experimentee
11-17-2006, 02:07 PM
I think its great its staying in Shanghai. The venue is excellent, built specifically for the event, the crowd is always fair and there is a great atmosphere, and the organisation is fantastic. The TMC events in Shanghai have been much better than the ones in Houston.

Geniey2g
11-17-2006, 03:29 PM
It's Victoria Vanucci. She did a tennis themed playboy shoot. You can see the pics here, all very tasteful of course.

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=283999&IdxSeccion=600795
Oh, it's a girl?? I thought it was more X-rated F-Lo pics :o

Monteque
11-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Follow the money....

It's a lot of things. Money is one of the main reason. Beside that, you cant deny the enthusiastic of those fans, who really outstanding. Shine supporters while the players was playing and of course the tv broadcast for the market potential 1 more billion Chinese ppl. But it's money thing at the end.

Experimentee
11-17-2006, 03:54 PM
I've enjoyed watching the Shanghai TMC's because the crowd were always fair, and not biased at all because there were no Chinese players playing. If it was South America or USA the crowd would definitely not be fair to all players. In an important event like the TMC, there should be no crowd advantage possible.

TheBoiledEgg
11-17-2006, 04:21 PM
I've enjoyed watching the Shanghai TMC's because the crowd were always fair, and not biased at all because there were no Chinese players playing. If it was South America or USA the crowd would definitely not be fair to all players. In an important event like the TMC, there should be no crowd advantage possible.

except 80% of the crowd goes home after 1st match :o

bring the TMC back to Europe so we can have it in our peak time :)

monicain
11-17-2006, 05:27 PM
I'm by any mean no pro-China at all, but how selfish can people sound. How many AMS are currently held in Europe and/or America combined? How awful and biased the event was in Houston? and London? I heard there is one Grand Slam held there, no?

Why not suggest Paris so there'll be Gaz de France, Roland Garros, AMS Bercy, and TMC altogether. Sounds fair enough...

In the end Shanghai proved to be a perfect venue for the TMC, and it will has the last laugh. Who cares if some people have to wake up in hte middle of the night to catch the matches. I've done that with the US Open for decades...

Let think less about yourself.

jayjay
11-17-2006, 06:30 PM
Oh, it's a girl?? I thought it was more X-rated F-Lo pics :o

:lol: Sorry to disappoint you. :)

*Ljubica*
11-17-2006, 06:54 PM
I'm by any mean no pro-China at all, but how selfish can people sound. How many AMS are currently held in Europe and/or America combined? How awful and biased the event was in Houston? and London? I heard there is one Grand Slam held there, no?

Why not suggest Paris so there'll be Gaz de France, Roland Garros, AMS Bercy, and TMC altogether. Sounds fair enough...

In the end Shanghai proved to be a perfect venue for the TMC, and it will has the last laugh. Who cares if some people have to wake up in hte middle of the night to catch the matches. I've done that with the US Open for decades...

Let think less about yourself.

If it was getting up in the middle of the night then it wouldnt be a problem occasionally for a specific match. I think most people in Europe get p***** off because singles' play in Shanghai starts at midday our time (11.00am in UK), and finishes at about 4.00pm (3.00pm in UK), so unless we take annual holiday from work, which isn't always possible, people here just never see any of it live at all :shrug: It's lost entirely to us while we're out at work, school or college. And we have to stay up (or get up) to watch US Open night matches too - but at least we get to see their day sessions during our evenings after work - with the time difference in Shanghai we see none of it at all :sad: If they alternated it - then everyone would get a chance at least every other year to watch it live.

+alonso
11-17-2006, 06:59 PM
Here in Chile, starts in the early morning and ends before 12 or 1 o'clock I think

I'm totally lost about Shanghai

Anyway, Good for the chinese people, They deserve more attention so ;)

lordmanji
11-17-2006, 07:42 PM
pros for shanghai: fair crowd. so far away from players home it feels more of like a vacation. excellent facilities.
cons for shanghai: bad for us television (3am over here.) crowd keeps getting up between games that arent changeovers. far away from player's homes and doesn't follow indoor calendar geographically.

id like to see shanghai become a masters series event in the asian swing. i dont think there are any right now. or maybe around the aussie open. also, the events should follow the surface of the slam/big event. then we could have the calendar run like this:

Rebound Ace/Australian Open/Asia.
Clay/French Open/Europe/South America.
Grass/Wimbledon/England(way too short imo). needs at least two more events to justify even training for the grass of wimbledon. the more time goes on, the less relevance wimbledon will have as less and less players gain experience on grass.
Hard Court/US Open/North America.
Carpet/Indoor/TMC/Europe.

All the events should follow the calendar so players dont have to go to a continent twice the same season.

DrJules
11-17-2006, 07:48 PM
pros for shanghai: fair crowd.

New York and Madrid could learn a lot.

DrJules
11-17-2006, 07:49 PM
If they want tennis to spread globally then they need to play all over the world; including larger events in China and India etc.

Naranoc
11-17-2006, 07:51 PM
Cons for Shanghai : Some of the most ridiculous journalist questions at press conferences ever :o .

njorker
11-18-2006, 07:30 AM
Cons for Shanghai : Some of the most ridiculous journalist questions at press conferences ever :o .

Like what?

Action Jackson
11-18-2006, 07:36 AM
Last time I remembered that tennis was a global sport, but hey lets just concentrate all the big events in North America and Europe and have that joke Slam at the start of the year.

Footnote: It's not hard to guess which parts of the above post are serious and what's not.

Boris Franz Ecker
11-18-2006, 12:12 PM
tournament should be in Europe.
Otherwise player would continue to skip Paris masters.
And it should be in a city where it could be sold out.
Think about Frankfurt, every day was sold out in early 90ies.

Geniey2g
11-18-2006, 10:00 PM
Cons for Shanghai : Some of the most ridiculous journalist questions at press conferences ever :o .
I just got this from from Tennis-X.com:

Something that's really funny but quite embarrassing is the way the Chinese media handles itself in pressers. They take pictures with cell phones, ask for autographs, and ask questions like this one, to Rafael Nadal:
Q: I was talking with my friends about your perfect muscles. Has anyone told you that you have muscles that look like popcorn?

A: ?????? Sí, okay. What answer you want? I fell normal like always, I don't like to look in the mirror."

lmao @ those crazy journos :lol: