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Nalbadian Roasts the Duck 6-2 7-6(4): moves on If Roger def Ljubo in 2 or 3.

El Legenda
11-16-2006, 11:45 AM
Nalbandian chokes a little but pulls it out.
also Roddick sucks.

Roger is in, hopefully he will relax and let Ivan beat him :lol:

I said the other day, David is in pretty good shape for being 0-2. better than Ivan and Roddick at 1-1.

so Ivan needs to beat Roger to move on.

:wavey:

Roddick is out :rolls:

beantown jim
11-16-2006, 11:47 AM
NICE DUCK :rolleyes: :lol: :rolls: :cuckoo:

adee-gee
11-16-2006, 11:47 AM
Gutted :sad:

Fergie
11-16-2006, 11:47 AM
Andy :rolleyes:

Good luck Ivan :)

Rogiman
11-16-2006, 11:47 AM
Roasting is kept for pigs, hunting is used for ducks...

If you want to watch some roasting wait patiently for tomorrow :devil:

marcelwks
11-16-2006, 11:48 AM
tb = RodKilla

Regenbogen
11-16-2006, 11:48 AM
Roddick :retard:

I hope Nalbandian gets to the semis!

shotgun
11-16-2006, 11:48 AM
congrats Nalbandian, he probably got fired up with what happened yesterday.

scoobs
11-16-2006, 11:49 AM
Who the fuck was that on court today? It wasn't the Andy Roddick who earned 3 match points against Federer, anyway.

I can only assume he has a slightly retarded identical twin brother and he took to the court today.

Absolute drivel from Roddick, truly abysmal -he has nothing to feel happy at all about there. When Nalbandian did him a favour and completely choked, Andy looked up, said "no, no, allow me" and then proceeded to outchoke him and lose in 2 sets anyway.

Awful - truly diabolical.

Credit to David for stabilising and getting it done in the end and for a pretty good match up until then, but Andy Roddick - I'd pretend the Federer match was the last of the season if I were you, and put that one out of your mind completely - within the hour if you can.

El Legenda
11-16-2006, 11:49 AM
Gutted :sad:

you're doing what with my wife? porno flick :mad: :boxing: :p

bluefork
11-16-2006, 11:49 AM
Congradulations David :bigclap:
Good for you. Go on and win your next match too.

TheBoiledEgg
11-16-2006, 11:49 AM
great shooting Nalby :banana:

he fired blanks for a game but he reloaded to kill !!!!!!!!!!!

JustmeUK
11-16-2006, 11:50 AM
andy looked flat today. nalbandian was up for the match and didn't have to do too much. mostly he played solid tennis and on the opportunities he gave andy, he was lucky and got away with it.

Apemant
11-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Never underestimate David.

nanoman
11-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Awesome play by FatDave:worship:
Roddick out:wavey:

Roddick is so pathetic. Once Fatty can get his rackets behind his serve, Roddick is being embarrassed. Almost feel sorry for him.

Voo de Mar
11-16-2006, 11:50 AM
tb = RodKilla

Andy lost 10 of the last 13 tie-breaks he played.
He had 77% of first serve against fat Davy and lost his serve 3 times in two sets :shrug:

nobama
11-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Perhaps Connors now realises it's not just about Roger Federer. They may have a strategy worked out for beating Fed, but what about the rest of the tour?

nobama
11-16-2006, 11:51 AM
And another DF in the TB. :cuckoo: Andy please get help. :o

oz_boz
11-16-2006, 11:52 AM
:woohoo:

And straight sets too, almost too good to be true. Now I only hope Fed won't tank to shut out Nalby from the SF :(

abhinav_shaan
11-16-2006, 11:53 AM
rod that really sucked...

interestingly, federer can now(although he wont) eliminate nalby
and also avoid facing nadal in semis by throwing the ljubo match

scarecrows
11-16-2006, 11:53 AM
:rolls:

if Davy wins tomorrow there would be the dreamy semis for me

Julio1974
11-16-2006, 11:53 AM
Well done David !!!!!!!! The difference between both palyers was abysmal in the rallies. Roddick survived in the 2nd set thanks to his amazing service and David helped him when serving for match as usual...
But I think the better player on court today won.

partygirl
11-16-2006, 11:56 AM
you're doing what with my wife? porno flick :mad: :boxing: :p
its not porno.


oh Andy:bigcry:

garylanders
11-16-2006, 11:56 AM
Who the fuck was that on court today? It wasn't the Andy Roddick who earned 3 match points against Federer, anyway.

I can only assume he has a slightly retarded identical twin brother and he took to the court today.

Absolute drivel from Roddick, truly abysmal -he has nothing to feel happy at all about there. When Nalbandian did him a favour and completely choked, Andy looked up, said "no, no, allow me" and then proceeded to outchoke him and lose in 2 sets anyway.

Awful - truly diabolical.

Credit to David for stabilising and getting it done in the end and for a pretty good match up until then, but Andy Roddick - I'd pretend the Federer match was the last of the season if I were you, and put that one out of your mind completely - within the hour if you can.


He didnt play as well as he did against Federer that´s for sure but what was the difference ? His serve! Without the serve in the second set this match would´ve ended 6-1, 6-1. When I saw the first match between Ljubo and Roddick (even though he won) I thought; If he plays like this against Nalby he´ll be tost.

/GL

User id 7816
11-16-2006, 11:57 AM
I thought maybe David wont be up for it but he seems to have found strength. Thank you David, hope this will make for intersting semis.

freeandlonely
11-16-2006, 11:57 AM
happy Nalbandian win in straight
hope Federer win as well

The HAAS Admirer
11-16-2006, 11:58 AM
Well David hit over 30 winners in the match, he was too good today, and Andy looked flat.
Its a good win for David especially after what his family has been trough.
I just hope he qualifies now.
I don't think Ivan has much of a chance.

nanoman
11-16-2006, 11:58 AM
Oh, and some people should tape this match and shove it into faces of Jmac and/or other tennisfossils. Charging the net is suicide in this day of tennis when players like Nalbandian are around.

MrJ
11-16-2006, 11:59 AM
Roddick still has no clue what to do when his serves are returned!! He only won points with aces or service winners. He needs more improvements if he wants to win a slam again. :)

sawan66278
11-16-2006, 11:59 AM
Shocking win for Fat Dave:eek: :eek: I woke up to go online to watch the match, and it was over. I cannot believe that when all is said and done, Fat Dave is going to make it to the semis!!!!! You know Roger never tanks, so it is over...why? Because I have as much confidence in Ivan as I do in Hewitt beating Roger at this point...

Again, this shows that Andy is a player with a limited game...on an indoor court in which he thrives, he cannot take a set off of Fat Dave...

Just imagine how good Fat Dave might be if actually trained and played with the inspiration he played with today...

mangoes
11-16-2006, 12:03 PM
Congrats Nalbandian.

Andy.......I'm really disappointed in Andy's performance today. He spends too much time thinking about beating Roger and forgets the other players. With all due respect to Nalbandian, Andy should have put his focus on beating Nalbandian.....that was a match he should have won. He played at such a high level against Roger that this drop in his performance, in his following match, was slightly expected :(

TheBoiledEgg
11-16-2006, 12:03 PM
Oh, and some people should tape this match and shove it into faces of Jmac and/or other tennisfossils. Charging the net is suicide in this day of tennis when players like Nalbandian are around.

thats cos most of the players these days are hopeless around net :o :help:

last good S & V was Rafter
and the last great one before was Edberg.

asotgod
11-16-2006, 12:03 PM
Roddick did not play badly IMO. Nalby is just that better at returning serves than Roger, than anyone in fact. He just has a serious head problem. Look at what Nalby has done to big servers when his mind is there be it Ljubo, Karlovic, Ancic, whoever.

Nalby just got up for this match and made Roddick look mediocre at the baseline and virtually everywhere. Take out the # of aces Roddick was serving at the beginning of the second and this could have been a wipeout. In fact, despite that, had Nalby not choked when serving for the match, it still would have been a wipeout.

Nalby really needs to get his head fixed. He is as good as anybody gamewise. He just does not have it upstairs.

franklibby
11-16-2006, 12:06 PM
Congrats to Fat Dave for humbling Fat Andy.

MilMilCho
11-16-2006, 12:08 PM
Great win for Nalbandian,
Roddick's new style of play worked out against Federer, that's for sure.
But it didn't work out against Nalbandian, even Roddick's first serve percetage is higher than 70.

bad gambler
11-16-2006, 12:10 PM
congrats bandy

BATES
11-16-2006, 12:11 PM
Waaaay to go David!!!
It's up to you Roger!

nanoman
11-16-2006, 12:18 PM
thats cos most of the players these days are hopeless around net :o :help:

last good S & V was Rafter
and the last great one before was Edberg.

Hardly anybody ever is great at S&V, the passing shots back then were just crap.

mickymouse
11-16-2006, 12:29 PM
This isn't the first time Roddick does this to his fans....playing well for a stretch and raising his fans' hopes, only to plunge them back into depression again.

oz_boz
11-16-2006, 12:34 PM
thats cos most of the players these days are hopeless around net :o :help:

...or that the return game of the 90's was crap compared to today.

DrJules
11-16-2006, 12:44 PM
Who the fuck was that on court today? It wasn't the Andy Roddick who earned 3 match points against Federer, anyway.

I can only assume he has a slightly retarded identical twin brother and he took to the court today.

Absolute drivel from Roddick, truly abysmal -he has nothing to feel happy at all about there. When Nalbandian did him a favour and completely choked, Andy looked up, said "no, no, allow me" and then proceeded to outchoke him and lose in 2 sets anyway.

Awful - truly diabolical.

Credit to David for stabilising and getting it done in the end and for a pretty good match up until then, but Andy Roddick - I'd pretend the Federer match was the last of the season if I were you, and put that one out of your mind completely - within the hour if you can.

Perhaps Connors now realises it's not just about Roger Federer. They may have a strategy worked out for beating Fed, but what about the rest of the tour?

Andy Roddick may benefit against Federer from serve and volley. However, serve and volley is a disaster tactic against Nalbandian and Hewitt. It is the reason Nalbandian and Hewitt have such good records against Tim Henman. It is noticable that Federer became more successful against Hewitt and Nalbandian when he used serve and volley less.

DrJules
11-16-2006, 12:45 PM
congrats bandy

Well picked about the effect of tragedy on Nalbandian in another thread.

Melekhin
11-16-2006, 12:48 PM
Great Nalby!!!

You save this group with 2 service mens

Just hope Federer will not stop and will beat Ivan

euroka1
11-16-2006, 12:53 PM
Andy Roddick may benefit against Federer from serve and volley. However, serve and volley is a disaster tactic against Nalbandian and Hewitt. It is the reason Nalbandian and Hewitt have such good records against Tim Henman. It is noticable that Federer became more successful against Hewitt and Nalbandian when he used serve and volley less.

Andy has to remember that Fed is a good learner and is quite capable of changing his game accordingly.

DrJules
11-16-2006, 12:54 PM
Gutted :sad:

However, your main man, Rafael Nadal, is still well placed.

Denaon
11-16-2006, 12:54 PM
I haven't watched the match :mad: (I could not wake up :o ) but I just wanted to say that I'm soooooo proud of David....and happy for him....:smooch:

DrJules
11-16-2006, 01:01 PM
Actually a few numbers for Roddick are very impressive:

1st serve 75%
Aces 18.

However, except for the serve where Nalbandian is much worse he is a better player.

jayjay
11-16-2006, 01:08 PM
They may have a strategy worked out for beating Fed

Do they? 1-10 pre-Connors, 0-2 post Connors, would suggest not.

:lol:

Giggles
11-16-2006, 01:27 PM
Andy might be more distracted than Nalby by his nephew's tragedy -- how awful it is:sad: , btw. Andy is very nice and might be hesitant for beating Nalby today.

I hope Nalby goes to SF. He may be able to get his devastated mind off a bit during serious matches.

Galathea
11-16-2006, 01:28 PM
I'm not a fan of Roddick game and today he didn't have a good day, while Nalby, played exceptional points (specially return) and with a lot of intelligence. Wich it's what I think it's Roddick's problem.
But, I have to say that, besides any mental problem that Roddick could have because he looked nervous since the beggining, it's not easy play against someone in Nalby's situation.
I'm not talking about the Andy getting emotional because in court, it doesn't matter if you're against your brother, gay couple, injured player or someone who suffered a terrible lost the day before: you take advantade of whatever you can use.
The point is, it's not easy play against someone that will not be affected if he does and ace of 10 df. Nalby played really well, but his mood was not going to be affected by any mistake he could made. It's not easy, because Roddick is someone that takes advantage of the weak moments of his opponents. What weak moment could have Nalby today when the reason he was still there is because he didn't reach his country in time for a funeral?.

So, while it was a very intelligent game from Nalby, was difficult for Andy to play against someone like that
Now, I don't think Andy was being "nice", he was outplayed by a better mind and because he was nervous. The nerve in some matchs is a weak point of Andy too... DC last match was one example.
One thing is what you said, wich clearly was not what happened, just watching the game is a prove enough. But another the fact that the Nalby was not going to get frustrated, pissed off, etc by anything

Kip
11-16-2006, 01:31 PM
So very impressed by david's performance.
Yes, he did choke a bit but I was very pleased
that he was able to keep it together and pull out
the win.

Heart goes out to him as well
dealing with his personal life trama.

Apemant
11-16-2006, 01:45 PM
When I saw the first match between Ljubo and Roddick (even though he won) I thought; If he plays like this against Nalby he´ll be tost.


Precisely what I thought as well. Not even 75% 1st serve saved him this time. But its not just Andy's fault. I keep telling people not to underestimate David; once the ball is in play (no service winners, please) an in-form David will win most points no matter who's on the other side.

Rogiman
11-16-2006, 01:48 PM
However, except for the serve where Nalbandian is much worse he is a better player.And that has never been clearer!
Whenever the ball was in play Nalbandian just took Roddick to school.

2nd set's close score is misleading.

nobama
11-16-2006, 01:51 PM
Roddick did not play badly IMO. Nalby is just that better at returning serves than Roger, than anyone in fact. He just has a serious head problem. Look at what Nalby has done to big servers when his mind is there be it Ljubo, Karlovic, Ancic, whoever.

Nalby just got up for this match and made Roddick look mediocre at the baseline and virtually everywhere. Take out the # of aces Roddick was serving at the beginning of the second and this could have been a wipeout. In fact, despite that, had Nalby not choked when serving for the match, it still would have been a wipeout.

Nalby really needs to get his head fixed. He is as good as anybody gamewise. He just does not have it upstairs.Sorry I don't think he returns Roddick's serve better than Fed. Roddick played no where near the level he did against Fed. And Nalbandian played a solid, clean match. Roddick put all his energy into beating Roger.

Apemant
11-16-2006, 01:55 PM
Sorry I don't think he returns Roddick's serve better than Fed. Roddick played no where near the level he did against Fed. And Nalbandian played a solid, clean match. Roddick put all his energy into beating Roger.

What level is needed when you serve 75% 1sr serve bombs? Against a no-returner like Ivan, he would've win by the virtue of serve alone.

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 01:59 PM
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! I was out and just checked scores.

Poor Andy :( but congrats to David..... he did it for his cousin :sad:

Andy... from heroic stuff the other night, to this? :sad:

Godiva
11-16-2006, 02:00 PM
I think that this shows more than anything else that Roger is still stuck firmly in Roddick's head. Andy only has eyes for Roger. The thing is he tries so hard, he takes months and months to retool his game, just for Roger and he forgets that there are other dangerous players out there that he needs to beat.

My advice to Andy is forget about Roger, its a lost cause.;)

Blake -Nalbandian is going to be very interesting, seeing that they've never played each other before.:cool:

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 02:02 PM
Andy Roddick may benefit against Federer from serve and volley. However, serve and volley is a disaster tactic against Nalbandian and Hewitt. It is the reason Nalbandian and Hewitt have such good records against Tim Henman.

Eh? Fed has a fabulous record against Tim too.

RickDaStick
11-16-2006, 02:09 PM
Duckman cracked like an egg when the TMC semis came calling.

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Ridiculous Roddick, ridiculous!

That's why RR sucks. The worst player in the last matches qualified.

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 02:24 PM
Sorry I don't think he returns Roddick's serve better than Fed. Roddick played no where near the level he did against Fed. And Nalbandian played a solid, clean match. Roddick put all his energy into beating Roger.

I haven't watched the match yet, but I have heard others comment on it saying David played breathtaking beautiful shots (clean) today.

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 02:26 PM
That's why RR sucks. The worst player in the last matches qualified.
How was he worst?
He was 1-2, just like Rod and Ivan. He had a loss to Roger just like Rod and Ivan. Furthre more, he did it with much more pressure (0-2) going into this match.

Rogiman
11-16-2006, 02:29 PM
I haven't watched the match yet, but I have heard others comment on it saying David played breathtaking beautiful shots (clean) today.He did, in a way, but many players are made to look better than they really are against Roddick.

Federer ususally hits more aces and winners and less UE's when he plays Roddick than he does vs. any other player, simply because Roddick's defense sucks.

Nalbandian was good, but it was really only about getting the serve back in play, from the backcourt Roddick has never been a match to him, and the occasional big serve was the only thing to keep him in the match.

David's 1st serve % on the other hand :help:

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:29 PM
How was he worst?
He was 1-2, just like Rod and Ivan. He had a loss to Roger just like Rod and Ivan. Furthre more, he did it with much more pressure (0-2) going into this match.

Lost to a sick Ljubicic (if he's limited when playing good... well... no need to talk about it) and took two breadsticks from Fed.
Furthermore, Roddick played much better both other matches and now is out.

Denaon
11-16-2006, 02:30 PM
Ridiculous Roddick, ridiculous!

That's why RR sucks. The worst player in the last matches qualified.

:rolleyes: In RR there will always be players that have lost at least one match, it's impossible to have all semifinalists undefeated...that is ridiculous...if you don't like the format, just ignore the tourney...it's just a few days ;)
And btw, how come Nalbandian is the worst player?? He had indeed the best W/L record among the three of them...am I right?

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:31 PM
:rolleyes: In RR there will always be players that have lost at least one match, it's impossible to have all semifinalists undefeated...that is ridiculous...if you don't like the format, just ignore the tourney...it's just a few days ;)

Losing to a sick Ljubicic should automatically disqualify a player.

Denaon
11-16-2006, 02:32 PM
Losing to a sick Ljubicic should automatically disqualify a player.

I'm confused by your flag.....:confused:
Are you a croat?
:rolls:

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 02:34 PM
I'm confused by your flag.....:confused:
Are you a croat?
:rolls:

I believe that's a Brazilian flag... not completely sure.

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:34 PM
I'm confused by your flag.....:confused:
Are you a croat?
:rolls:

Of course not.

What I'm saying is that Ljubo was playing so badly that losing to him should disqualify anyone.

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:35 PM
I believe that's a Brazilian flag... not completely sure.

:rolleyes:
You got it right big boy! :worship:

Denaon
11-16-2006, 02:37 PM
Of course not.

What I'm saying is that Ljubo was playing so badly that losing to him should disqualify anyone.

It's not always a matter of talent or performance but luck too....I believe Ivan was luckier than David that day...

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:38 PM
It's not always a matter of talent or performance but luck too....I believe Ivan was luckier than David that day...

Roddick sucked. Is this concept too hard to understand?

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 02:38 PM
He had indeed the best W/L record among the three of them...am I right?
No, he is 1-2 as well in w/l of the **series** (if that's what you meant).

David's luck in this situation comes from the fact that there was a 3-way tie. Ordinarily, he would be eliminated because of the losing h2h against andy as well as Ivan.
The intricacies of the rulebook mean that because three were tied, they now go to some other gauge to see who advances.

In this case, they go to percent of sets won. By beating andy in straights and having Roger beat Ivan in straights,
David's 4/8 > Ivan's 3/8 and also > andy's 3/8

jazar
11-16-2006, 02:40 PM
congratulations to david on qualifying after being 0 for 2 and with the adversity of what has happened back in argentina

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:41 PM
No, he is 1-2 as well in w/l of the **series** (if that's what you meant).

David's luck in this situation comes from the fact that there was a 3-way tie. Ordinarily, he would be eliminated because of the losing h2h against andy as well as Ivan.
The intricacies of the rulebook mean that because three were tied, they now go to some other gauge to see who advances.

In this case, they go to percent of sets won. By beating andy in straights and having Roger beat Ivan in straights,
David's 4/8 > Ivan's 3/8 and also > andy's 3/8

Prepare yourself for a lot of this :bs: thanks to mr. Bozo De Villiers.

lau
11-16-2006, 02:41 PM
Losing to a sick Ljubicic should automatically disqualify a player.
Brilliant idea!!
You should talk to Mr. Disney. :p

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:42 PM
Brilliant idea!!
You should talk to Mr. Disney. :p

Thanks! :D

R.Federer
11-16-2006, 02:43 PM
Prepare yourself for a lot of this :bs: thanks to mr. Bozo De Villiers.

Yep...unfortunately, this is what will happen. Everyone will get start hoping for their favorite player to "not win in straights" and even "lose in straights" to prevent their hated player from advancing.

Denaon
11-16-2006, 02:43 PM
Roddick sucked. Is this concept too hard to understand?

Of course not...why do you say that?
Then again how come David was the worst player when it was Roddick who sucked? Then it's all about you appreciation about David being the worst player in the group....
I don't agree with that either
:rolls:

In this case, they go to percent of sets won. By beating andy in straights and having Roger beat Ivan in straights,
David's 4/8 > Ivan's 3/8 and also > andy's 3/8
That's what I meant ;)

controlfreak
11-16-2006, 02:44 PM
good win David :cool:

lame, Andy :o

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:46 PM
Of course not...why do you say that?
Then again how come David was the worst player when it was Roddick who sucked? Then it's all about you appreciation about David being the worst player in the group....
I don't agree with that either
:rolls:


Roddick had mps against Federer. That says enough. Meanwhile fat Dave just barely could prevent a bagel in his third set against Fed.

Denaon
11-16-2006, 02:49 PM
Roddick had mps against Federer. That says enough. Meanwhile fat Dave just barely could prevent a bagel in his third set against Fed.

How many times has Roddick defeated Federer?
If having match points against an opponent means sthg, well, David had some against Ljubicic....does that change anything? :rolleyes: I think not.

lau
11-16-2006, 02:51 PM
Roddick had mps against Federer. That says enough. Meanwhile fat Dave just barely could prevent a bagel in his third set against Fed.

Tennis is about match-ups, not mathematics.
EDIT: And it is played in sets. MPs don´t count...., yet.... you could talk about it with Mr. Disney too :lol:

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:51 PM
How many times has Roddick defeated Federer?
If having match points against an opponent means sthg, well, David had some against Ljubicic....does that change anything? :rolleyes: I think not.

Ljubicic is no Federer.

I'm analysing this tournament, not the whole history of their H2H.

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:52 PM
Tennis is about match-ups, not mathematics.

But points should be.

NYCtennisfan
11-16-2006, 02:53 PM
Roddick didn't play well at all other than a few good serves and Nalbandian played rather well.

jayjay
11-16-2006, 02:57 PM
Glenn Mirnyi in bashing Nalbandian shocker (or just any Argentines he can think of). <yawn>

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 02:58 PM
Glenn Mirnyi in bashing Nalbandian shocker (or just any Argentines he can think of). <yawn>

Thanks for adding something useful in this discussion. :rolleyes:

Julio1974
11-16-2006, 03:01 PM
Ljubicic is no Federer.

I'm analysing this tournament, not the whole history of their H2H.

Your bitter posts are so predictable ...

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 03:04 PM
Your bitter posts are so predictable ...

And yours are what? Labadze material? :rolleyes:

bluesky_rachel
11-16-2006, 03:08 PM
wow..I cant believe this.I just got home from a baseball game and then got online.I cant believe david is in semi now.Please keep the good work ,David!!!I am so proud of you!:banana:

RickDaStick
11-16-2006, 03:09 PM
wow..I cant believe this.I just got home from a baseball game and then got online.I cant believe david is in semi now.Please keep the good work ,David!!!I am so proud of you!:banana:


baseball game?

Sutti
11-16-2006, 03:12 PM
Mature your mother...:mad:

Saturday on t.v:
Nalbandian v.s Blake/Nadal/Davydenko :devil:

Glen mirny---> saturday on t.v:
Soccer on the beach :eek:

:wavey: Que feliz sooooooy jojojojo!!:cool:

Julio1974
11-16-2006, 03:16 PM
Mature your mother...:mad:

Saturday on t.v:
Nalbandian v.s Blake/Nadal/Davydenko :devil:

Glen mirny---> saturday on t.v:
Soccer on the beach :eek:

:wavey: Que feliz sooooooy jojojojo!!:cool:

The more he writes, the better.... We can see how furious and bitter he is about David's victory...
:angel:

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 03:17 PM
Mature your mother...:mad:

Saturday on t.v:
Nalbandian v.s Blake/Nadal/Davydenko :devil:

Glen mirny---> saturday on t.v:
Soccer on the beach :eek:

:wavey: Que feliz sooooooy jojojojo!!:cool:

You are really clever too. Can't even copy a name or anything.

Learn something to discuss first, then come here. And learn some geography too.

GlennMirnyi
11-16-2006, 03:18 PM
The more he writes, the better.... We can see how furious and bitter he is about David's victory...
:angel:

He will lose anyway. No crutches for Fed this year.

He who laughs last laughs best. :lol:

jayjay
11-16-2006, 03:20 PM
Chicos argentinos..disfruten esta victoria y dejen que este brazuca choto sangre por la herida...

Well done David.( My asignature Corazon + talento)

P.D: (Thanks Roger:p)

:worship:

bluesky_rachel
11-16-2006, 03:22 PM
baseball game?

I was there watching Holland VS Australia.And Holland won 4-3.I had much fun.Theres a competition holding in my country now.I hope you understand with my poor english.:p

Sutti
11-16-2006, 03:30 PM
:worship:

Te hago la misma reverencia pero por la foto de Victoria Vanucci en la cancha de tenis :eek:

Porque no se dedico al tenis, porqueeeee :baby: ???
( En "polvo" seguro ganaba todo)

avocadoe
11-16-2006, 03:36 PM
I was there watching Holland VS Australia.And Holland won 4-3.I had much fun.Theres a competition holding in my country now.I hope you understand with my poor english.:p

I understand you :) :wavey:
David played a fine match today. Andy's confidance blew when his serve wasn't up to par to start, and David was making him look bad on the baseline and catching him with passing shots when he came to net. I think losing to Roger in the way he did, being so close, having those chances, took its toll on him. Andy is trying to take on Jimmy's point of view, and be tougher in his view of himself, ie in the interview, standing all the way up for his performance, even slightly over inflating it. That's a tricky identification, as Andy isn't really feeling it all the wy into his boots. Yes he played great against Roger, and yes he might well have won in straights, but he didn't exactly outplay him, one bad game from Roger when he dropped serve, and a couple of flakey misses from Roger off the forehand, looks neck and neck to me, not outplayed him. Anyway, David had a tough part to play today, obviously grieving (I was so glad to see his Mom and girlfriend, who is a beaut!!! were both there) and did a masterful job. He almost blew at 5-4, lost the game, but battled on. Happy for him he won. Hoping Andy can do what the poster said, forget about that match, though I don't think he will.

Julio1974
11-16-2006, 03:37 PM
He will lose anyway. No crutches for Fed this year.

He who laughs last laughs best. :lol:

Of course he'll eventually lose. But I don't care. I'm already happy that he reached the SF again and showed his detractors how well he can play.

guille&tati4life
11-16-2006, 03:38 PM
:banana: Vamos David! Defend your title :unsure: :rocker2:

nobama
11-16-2006, 03:44 PM
Video of Andy's presser:
http://sports.sina.com.cn/t/bn/2006-11-16/22232571412.shtml

ChinoRios4Ever
11-16-2006, 03:50 PM
well done nalbi :yeah:

Sunset of Age
11-16-2006, 03:56 PM
Excellent job, Dave, well done - especially when taking into account the dreadful circumstances! :worship: :worship:

Poor Andy, though... :sad:

jayjay
11-16-2006, 03:59 PM
Video of Andy's presser:
http://sports.sina.com.cn/t/bn/2006-11-16/22232571412.shtml

:lol:

Viken01
11-16-2006, 05:53 PM
congrat david :)

lorenz
11-16-2006, 06:27 PM
Come On Fat Nalby !!!!!

Thanks Roger !!!

I'm very happy ...

:):):):):):):):):):):):):)

cris1085
11-16-2006, 07:26 PM
Roddick is a fluke. He can only play well in USA. When he's away he wants to come back asap in USA. When he hired Connors I thought he could play better but after another defeat with Federer he didn't fight against Nalby. So the best American is Blake for this year.

Gonzalo81
11-16-2006, 07:51 PM
Well Done David!

A_Rod
11-16-2006, 07:58 PM
Nalbandian not deserve to be on Semifinals... he s0x.

A-Rod had to be there.

Jlee
11-16-2006, 08:11 PM
Roddick is a fluke. He can only play well in USA. When he's away he wants to come back asap in USA. When he hired Connors I thought he could play better but after another defeat with Federer he didn't fight against Nalby. So the best American is Blake for this year.

*cough* two straight Wimbledon finals *cough*

Congrats to David. :)

Bremen
11-16-2006, 08:16 PM
I have a question not really related to this match but anyway how do they determine who plays who in the semis? Why is Blake playing nalbandian? Why isn't he playing Federer? Thanks.

Joyce_23
11-16-2006, 08:30 PM
Well done, David.:worship: Considering the circumstances you did so well! And Nalby plays Blake because he (Nal) ended second in the red group and therefore has the play the first in the gold group, which is Blake.

darnyelb
11-16-2006, 10:24 PM
Wow, Roddick and second set tiebreakers :(

Bremen
11-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Well done, David.:worship: Considering the circumstances you did so well! And Nalby plays Blake because he (Nal) ended second in the red group and therefore has the play the first in the gold group, which is Blake.

Oh Ok. Thanks. I thought it was whoever had the best record in each group played eachother in the semis.

Monteque
11-16-2006, 11:01 PM
It's very sad to see Roddick in the 3rd place. He more deserves to qualify than Nalby. His 2 previous matches was tighter than Nalby had done.

The regulations sucks, it should be aim to H2H records between the player. And RR sucks too.:devil:

Fedex
11-16-2006, 11:05 PM
Roasting is kept for pigs, hunting is used for ducks...

If you want to watch some roasting wait patiently for tomorrow :devil:

Woulden't you rather see Roger roast the Pig in the semis, instead of Davydenko tomorrow. :confused: I know I would, which is why I will be rooting for Nadal tomorrow.

jayjay
11-16-2006, 11:07 PM
[QUOTE=Hearts;4463666]It's very sad to see Roddick in the 3rd place. He more deserves to qualify than Nalby. His 2 previous matches was tighter than Nalby had done.

No, he doesn't.

The regulations sucks, it should be aim to H2H records between the player.

In which case, Nalbandian beat Roddick in straight sets, so what are you moaning about? :lol:

nobama
11-16-2006, 11:09 PM
It's very sad to see Roddick in the 3rd place. He more deserves to qualify than Nalby. His 2 previous matches was tighter than Nalby had done.

The regulations sucks, it should be aim to H2H records between the player. And RR sucks too.:devil:Why? Nalbandian beat Roddick in straights. If he was the better player he should've beaten Dave.

Fedex
11-16-2006, 11:09 PM
Congrats to David. :) I know this is a very difficult time for him, but he was able to come out and played a superb match. He really made Roddick pay for those second serves, and he made him look like an average volleyer at best.

Kalliopeia
11-16-2006, 11:17 PM
I haven't watched the match yet, but I have heard others comment on it saying David played breathtaking beautiful shots (clean) today.


He really did, I was impressed. His serve though...:eek: It's amazing to me that he could put in that many second serves and Andy Roddick could do NOTHING with them.

Really really glad to see Nalby advance. Your turn, Rafa!

Giggles
11-16-2006, 11:42 PM
I have a question not really related to this match but anyway how do they determine who plays who in the semis? Why is Blake playing nalbandian? Why isn't he playing Federer? Thanks.

The first and second place players for each group move to semis. The first place player of one group will play against the second place player of another. Nalby took the second place of Red Group. And no matter what happens to the rest of Gold Group match, Blake has already secured the first spot in Gold Group. The reason is

1. Robredo will not surpass Blake for sure. Even if Robredo will beat Blake,

Robredo 1 win 2 loss
Blake 2 win 1 loss

2. The winner of Nadal-Davydenko will end up with 2 win - 1 loss record and go to semis with Blake. If Blake will lose to Robredo, his record will also be 2 win -1 loss record. (I am not totally sure but I think) the tie-breaking rule this case is the result of the match between the tied players. Blake has already beaten both Nadal and Davydenko. Therefore he has already secured the first place in Gold Group.

Hope this helps :wavey:

Fedex
11-16-2006, 11:46 PM
Perhaps Connors now realises it's not just about Roger Federer. They may have a strategy worked out for beating Fed, but what about the rest of the tour?
How can you say they have a strategy for beating Federer? The match was very competitive, but Roddick didn't even win the match.
And it doesn't really suprise me that this strategy didn't work against Nalbandian. Nalbandian's biggest strength's are his return and his passing shots. He can pass the very best volleyers consistantly, so its no suprise that Nalbandian made Roddick look like an amatuer at the net.

Fedex
11-16-2006, 11:51 PM
Andy Roddick may benefit against Federer from serve and volley. However, serve and volley is a disaster tactic against Nalbandian and Hewitt. It is the reason Nalbandian and Hewitt have such good records against Tim Henman. It is noticable that Federer became more successful against Hewitt and Nalbandian when he used serve and volley less.
Excellent point :worship:

Corswandt
11-17-2006, 12:20 AM
Who the fuck was that on court today? It wasn't the Andy Roddick who earned 3 match points against Federer, anyway.

I can only assume he has a slightly retarded identical twin brother and he took to the court today.

Absolute drivel from Roddick, truly abysmal -he has nothing to feel happy at all about there. When Nalbandian did him a favour and completely choked, Andy looked up, said "no, no, allow me" and then proceeded to outchoke him and lose in 2 sets anyway.

Awful - truly diabolical.

Credit to David for stabilising and getting it done in the end and for a pretty good match up until then, but Andy Roddick - I'd pretend the Federer match was the last of the season if I were you, and put that one out of your mind completely - within the hour if you can.

I don't think Roddick played much worse than the usual. Playing from the baseline, he's barely top 50. Not because he's inconsistent, but because he can't force a decision and has to wait for his opponent's errors. All Fat Dave had to do was to get his racquet on a few of Roddick's first serves and play solid in the rallies. How many of those did Roddick win? 1 in 20? 1 in 30? It was the same vs Fed - only difference was that Fed was having more trouble than the usual in returning Roddick's serve.

That Fat Dave managed to beat Roddick without a serve says everything.

Action Jackson
11-17-2006, 12:31 AM
Nalle schooled Roddick and the funny thing is that his 2nd serve was so much better than Roddick's. It was Roddick's serve that kept him in the 2nd set and serve/volleying to Nalbandian, he must have been loving that.

Under the particular circumstances it was an outstanding performance from Nalbandian and was clearly the better player.

Hokit
11-17-2006, 12:33 AM
...or that the return game of the 90's was crap compared to today.

All to do with the racquet technology, my friend ;)

Goes to show there's almost no logic in tennis. Duck man had match points against Federer while Fat Dave was wiped out in the last two sets with bagels :help: You'd expect Nalbandian to come out as the loser here, but instead he's yanked all the feathers from Roddick's ass in straight sets :tape:

jazz_girl
11-17-2006, 12:46 AM
Quotes:
http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=286888&IdxSeccion=100884
Federer: "At the end, the only thing I cared about was my pass to semifinals and not who was coming with me. But it's been a surprise, of course, that Nalbandian is in the next round"
"I think he deserves it because he should have beaten Ljubicic and beat Roddick easily"
Ljubicic:
"He beat Andy (Roddick) in two sets and he's through. Playing the way he did it, I think he deserves to be in the semifinals"
Nalbandian:
About Lautaro:
"There's nothing I can do for him, and that's life" said, giving himself time to release a nervous sigh.

"A news like this is very difficult, not just for the match, but for the general moment of what you're doing"
"The truth is, there's nothing I can do, I talked to the people I had to talk to and I believed that coming back to Argentina and withdraw from the Masters wasn't really necessary, because of the time, because I wasn't gonna be on time to do anything"
"During the match, as an outsider you don't notice it, but from inside you have lots of ups and downs, you think too many things. There was a sign in a moment and I asked to be removed because I couldn't play, it was very hard" "I even felt a fear situation"
The sign said "David, fight for little Lautaro"

"The sign was made with the best intentions, obviously, to give me strength, to support me, to be there with me, that's why I thanked to the people the way I did it and throwing the wristband"
"I asked for it to be removed because in the moment of the match it reminds you everytime about it, it didn't let me concentrate in the match"
"Sadly, those are things that happen, they're not the best and you have to face it and go on anyway"
"I tried to concentrate, to do the best thing in that hour and half or two hours that lasted the match, and then went on thinking"
Nalbandian intentó concentrarse y "tratar de hacer lo mejor en esa hora y media o dos horas que duró el partido, y después seguir pensando".
"I had to win in two sets to have any chances to qualify, and that's why I got nervous and made two or three double faults in a row"

kiro
11-17-2006, 12:52 AM
:hug: David!

Lee
11-17-2006, 12:56 AM
Bravo Nalby!

Fedex
11-17-2006, 12:59 AM
Nalle schooled Roddick and the funny thing is that his 2nd serve was so much better than Roddick's. It was Roddick's serve that kept him in the 2nd set and serve/volleying to Nalbandian, he must have been loving that.

Under the particular circumstances it was an outstanding performance from Nalbandian and was clearly the better player.
George, I think the 2nd serve points has more to do with Nalbandian's superior returning, and Roddick's poor returning. You just cannot give Nalbandian any 2nd serve oppurtunites or he is going to eat you alive. That gave Nalbandian a chance to get into baseline rallys and when that happens there is only one winner. :lol: @ Roddick trying to serve-volley against Nalbandian.

NATAS81
11-17-2006, 01:05 AM
That says a lot about Nalbandian's ground game when Roddick can hit 18 aces and lose in straight sets.

Roddick was really eaten up on second serve points in that second set.

Action Jackson
11-17-2006, 01:08 AM
George, I think the 2nd serve points has more to do with Nalbandian's superior returning, and Roddick's poor returning. You just cannot give Nalbandian any 2nd serve oppurtunites or he is going to eat you alive. That gave Nalbandian a chance to get into baseline rallys and when that happens there is only one winner. :lol: @ Roddick trying to serve-volley against Nalbandian.

Well Roddick hasn't been a great returner, but Roddick had a very good percentage of 1st serves in for the match I think mid 70s for memory. He was the chess master and Roddick was the pawn and when he brought him in and lob volleyed the winner summed up the match for me.

Diced duck I believe.

Merton
11-17-2006, 01:09 AM
Congrats David, he was clearly the better player from the baseline. It is somewhat surprising that Andy was so passive today following his performance against Roger.

R.Federer
11-17-2006, 01:25 AM
It is difficult to even root against him in a match. One definitely feels so bad for him. Quotes:
[url]http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=28Nalbandian:
About Lautaro:
The sign said "David, fight for little Lautaro"

"The sign was made with the best intentions, obviously, to give me strength, to support me, to be there with me, that's why I thanked to the people the way I did it and throwing the wristband"
"I asked for it to be removed because in the moment of the match it reminds you everytime about it, it didn't let me concentrate in the match"
"Sadly, those are things that happen, they're not the best and you have to face it and go on anyway"
"I tried to concentrate, to do the best thing in that hour and half or two hours that lasted the match, and then went on thinking"
Nalbandian intentó concentrarse y "tratar de hacer lo mejor en esa hora y media o dos horas que duró el partido, y después seguir pensando".
"I had to win in two sets to have any chances to qualify, and that's why I got nervous and made two or three double faults in a row"

Kalliopeia
11-17-2006, 02:46 AM
I noticed that sign and posted about it somewhere in some other thread! And then I didn't see it again, I actually had a feeling he might have asked for it to be removed. I understand the sentiment behind it, I guess, but I can't imagine why anyone would think it was a good idea.

justClaudia
11-17-2006, 02:54 AM
Quotes:
http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?Idx=286888&IdxSeccion=100884
Federer: "At the end, the only thing I cared about was my pass to semifinals and not who was coming with me. But it's been a surprise, of course, that Nalbandian is in the next round"
"I think he deserves it because he should have beaten Ljubicic and beat Roddick easily"
Ljubicic:
"He beat Andy (Roddick) in two sets and he's through. Playing the way he did it, I think he deserves to be in the semifinals"
Nalbandian:
About Lautaro:
"There's nothing I can do for him, and that's life" said, giving himself time to release a nervous sigh.

"A news like this is very difficult, not just for the match, but for the general moment of what you're doing"
"The truth is, there's nothing I can do, I talked to the people I had to talk to and I believed that coming back to Argentina and withdraw from the Masters wasn't really necessary, because of the time, because I wasn't gonna be on time to do anything"
"During the match, as an outsider you don't notice it, but from inside you have lots of ups and downs, you think too many things. There was a sign in a moment and I asked to be removed because I couldn't play, it was very hard" "I even felt a fear situation"
The sign said "David, fight for little Lautaro"

"The sign was made with the best intentions, obviously, to give me strength, to support me, to be there with me, that's why I thanked to the people the way I did it and throwing the wristband"
"I asked for it to be removed because in the moment of the match it reminds you everytime about it, it didn't let me concentrate in the match"
"Sadly, those are things that happen, they're not the best and you have to face it and go on anyway"
"I tried to concentrate, to do the best thing in that hour and half or two hours that lasted the match, and then went on thinking"
Nalbandian intentó concentrarse y "tratar de hacer lo mejor en esa hora y media o dos horas que duró el partido, y después seguir pensando".
"I had to win in two sets to have any chances to qualify, and that's why I got nervous and made two or three double faults in a row"

David. :hug:

Thanks Jime.

Derek1206
11-17-2006, 02:54 AM
:sad:

Monteque
11-17-2006, 03:23 PM
it's just ridiculous thing, you collect the 8 top players of the year. What for?? They have proved themself through the year and still, they looking for the best for those players. I think it's useless. We still know Fed is the no.1 and Nadal the real no.2.

And it's unfair to other players, so maybe it's better to make Shanghai to be the 10th TMS and put the TMC to the ass because RR is sucks and how come they divide the piled up money 3.5 M dollars more, just for 8 players :rolleyes:.

GermanBoy
11-17-2006, 03:59 PM
What was wrong with Andy? :confused: :sad: