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Robredo: Why he deserves your respect

L.J.
11-15-2006, 06:05 PM
I don't understand why so many people are so mean to Tommy Robredo.

1. He ISN'T as good as most players, but that is why he has to work so much harder to be in the top 15 then most of the other players.

2. He is a great underdog, why shouldn't we respect him? He is smaller than the opposition, he doesn't have such big shots, and yet he fights with all his heart and battles to a ranking of No.6 and a Masters Series title - what a great story of someone achieveing things against the odds.

3. He is a lovely guy with beautiful looks - I think he brings a lot to the tour with his positive attitude and his film star good looks.

4. He is a great defensive player - like Chang, like Muster, like Sanchez-Vicario - some people find this boring but don't we need a diverse range of players? There would be no great rallies if everyone just hit winners constantly.

I think he is a great story - can anyone on here really say they are better than him? He has worked hard to get the most out of the game - surely this is an admirable thing?

I doubt I've changed anyone's opinion but if I have then it was worth posting.

El Legenda
11-15-2006, 06:14 PM
I doubt I've changed anyone's opinion but if I have then it was worth posting.

definitely not worth posting :wavey:

jasmin
11-15-2006, 06:15 PM
Not a fan but I respect him. He's out there trying.

scarecrows
11-15-2006, 06:16 PM
not mine for sure

Lleytonisthebest
11-15-2006, 06:17 PM
i saw him at RG this year and his FH was far the most impressive I saw, it's less effective that many on the tour but it's the most beautiful the most technical a jewel!

DrJules
11-15-2006, 06:18 PM
I
1. He ISN'T as good as most players, but that is why he has to work so much harder to be in the top 15 then most of the other players.


On what basis do you determine him to have less talent than Davydeno, Ljubicic, Roddick etc

revolution
11-15-2006, 06:23 PM
An underdog that beats the top guys gets respect, but an underdog that can't beat the top guys won't.

Horatio Caine
11-15-2006, 06:35 PM
An underdog that beats the top guys gets respect, but an underdog that can't beat the top guys won't.

:worship:

Boris Franz Ecker
11-15-2006, 06:40 PM
Robredo is a fighter.
And of course, his return is not the best. But he gets the racket on the ball in nearly every situation.
I'm sure most players don't score many aces against him.

DrJules
11-15-2006, 07:00 PM
A lot the limitations of Robredo I think are technical rather than talent. I think technical flaws also undermine Nadal. A number of players who learn tennis in Spain seem to have racket grips and strokes that prevent them from fully developing their talents.

Fumus
11-15-2006, 07:03 PM
He's impressed me the last couple weeks, he playing above where he should be ranked...

jazar
11-15-2006, 07:26 PM
i'm not a fan but i do respect his ability. its just i would rather have a player like fernando gonzalez playing in shanghai cos i felt gonzalez had a better year than robredoa and would also be a more entertaining player

alfonsojose
11-15-2006, 07:26 PM
definitely not worth posting :wavey:

:haha: :haha:

Deboogle!.
11-15-2006, 07:29 PM
I don't understand why so many people are so mean to Tommy Robredo.Welcome to MTF :) Probably wasn't worth your effort, but nice try anyway.

*Ljubica*
11-15-2006, 07:43 PM
Great post L.J. and I agree with most of what you say. Tommy is a fighter, - he doesn't tank matches, he tries his hardest all the time ,and makes the best of his ability. He works really hard on court, in practice and in his off-court training, and he thoroughly deserved his place in TMC this year.

He is also a really nice, genuine guy. He treats all his fans with respect and he is great with kids. One thing that always sticks in my mind about Tommy - after he won Hamburg this year, about the first thing he did was give thanks and credit to Mariano Monachesi, his long term coach whom he had split from shortly before. They had parted ways because Tommy wanted to try things on his own for a while, but unlike a lot of player/coach splits there was no animosity and he stayed on good terms with Mariano, and was the first to say that he couldn't have won Hamburg without his hard work.

And don't worry if you don't change opinions L.J. "Boredo" as they love to call him here, is the kind of "flavour of the month" to dislike on GM at the moment :rolleyes: I woud take it as a compiiment - they usually only turn on players that are high ranked and successful enough to gain ther attention ;)

Thanks for your post.

marcRD
11-15-2006, 08:11 PM
Davydenko deserves respect, so damn underrated and can really beat any one on his day. Robredo is just here because of that mickey mouse cup in Hamburg.

Frooty_Bazooty
11-15-2006, 08:13 PM
look the fact of the matter is that there is a gap in the top 10 right now while some players are out or injured and he's the one who has taken advatage of that and beaten everyone else who could have reached top 10. so as far as im concerned, he deserves it completely

boromir8
11-15-2006, 08:16 PM
Robredo's presence again proves the weakness of this era. Despite being in woeful form, Nadal still brushed him aside after a slow start.

CooCooCachoo
11-15-2006, 08:35 PM
Great post L.J. and I agree with most of what you say. Tommy is a fighter, - he doesn't tank matches, he tries his hardest all the time ,and makes the best of his ability. He works really hard on court, in practice and in his off-court training, and he thoroughly deserved his place in TMC this year.

He is also a really nice, genuine guy. He treats all his fans with respect and he is great with kids. One thing that always sticks in my mind about Tommy - after he won Hamburg this year, about the first thing he did was give thanks and credit to Mariano Monachesi, his long term coach whom he had split from shortly before. They had parted ways because Tommy wanted to try things on his own for a while, but unlike a lot of player/coach splits there was no animosity and he stayed on good terms with Mariano, and was the first to say that he couldn't have won Hamburg without his hard work.

And don't worry if you don't change opinions L.J. "Boredo" as they love to call him here, is the kind of "flavour of the month" to dislike on GM at the moment :rolleyes: I woud take it as a compiiment - they usually only turn on players that are high ranked and successful enough to gain ther attention ;)

Thanks for your post.

Ditto :wavey:

Sommarsverige
11-15-2006, 09:33 PM
Great post L.J. and I agree with most of what you say. Tommy is a fighter, - he doesn't tank matches, he tries his hardest all the time ,and makes the best of his ability. He works really hard on court, in practice and in his off-court training, and he thoroughly deserved his place in TMC this year.

He is also a really nice, genuine guy. He treats all his fans with respect and he is great with kids. One thing that always sticks in my mind about Tommy - after he won Hamburg this year, about the first thing he did was give thanks and credit to Mariano Monachesi, his long term coach whom he had split from shortly before. They had parted ways because Tommy wanted to try things on his own for a while, but unlike a lot of player/coach splits there was no animosity and he stayed on good terms with Mariano, and was the first to say that he couldn't have won Hamburg without his hard work.

And don't worry if you don't change opinions L.J. "Boredo" as they love to call him here, is the kind of "flavour of the month" to dislike on GM at the moment :rolleyes: I woud take it as a compiiment - they usually only turn on players that are high ranked and successful enough to gain ther attention ;)

Thanks for your post.

Couldn´t agree more :yeah: :hug:

GlennMirnyi
11-15-2006, 09:36 PM
Not worth posting.

Eden
11-15-2006, 09:59 PM
There were always players at the TMC who would probably be called "clowns" nowadays. I really doubt that Berasategui in 1994, Rusedski and Kucera in 1998, Nicolas Lapentti in 1999,Sebastian Grosjean in 2001 and Jiri Novak in 2002 were better players than Robredo. I still wonder how they could qualify for the TMC whilst competeting with the players who are now mentioned as the stronger generation :angel:

All players have the same chances to qualify for the TMC. It isn't Robredos fault when some players failed to collect the needed points throughout the year.

hammett
11-15-2006, 10:14 PM
For now the only jokes are those players who were supposly to make it (to some here ;) ) to the TMC instead of Robredo AND dindn't AND won't because some of them are highly overrated.
In case you ask who, well Murray, Bagda, Joke and others.

:wavey:

itjusthadtobeyou
11-15-2006, 10:22 PM
Robredo is a good player. I believe he is underrated. Granted he lost today, but he held up pretty well in the first set against Nadal. He's got my respect. He's always had it. He's done nothing to prove to me that he doesn't deserve it.

adee-gee
11-15-2006, 10:44 PM
And don't worry if you don't change opinions L.J. "Boredo" as they love to call him here, is the kind of "flavour of the month" to dislike on GM at the moment :rolleyes: I woud take it as a compiiment - they usually only turn on players that are high ranked and successful enough to gain ther attention ;)
Exactly, look how much stick Xristos takes on here :p

Deivid23
11-15-2006, 10:48 PM
A number of players who learn tennis in Spain seem to have racket grips and strokes that prevent them from fully developing their talents.

Bullshit. Murray anyone?

CooCooCachoo
11-15-2006, 10:48 PM
There were always players at the TMC who would probably be called "clowns" nowadays. I really doubt that Berasategui in 1994, Rusedski and Kucera in 1998, Nicolas Lapentti in 1999,Sebastian Grosjean in 2001 and Jiri Novak in 2002 were better players than Robredo. I still wonder how they could qualify for the TMC whilst competeting with the players who are now mentioned as the stronger generation :angel:

All players have the same chances to qualify for the TMC. It isn't Robredos fault when some players failed to collect the needed points throughout the year.

Hmm, I don't think you are appreciating Kucera's year enough. He was at his top and a very crafty, intelligent, brilliant player ;) He was not out of place there. Rusedski was, though. But even at that surface, he was dangerous.

JustmeUK
11-15-2006, 10:51 PM
he's 5'11'' and doesn't have the biggest serve nor a huge weapon in his forehand. his backhand has always been his better shot in my book and like a good wine it's improving with time. he's not got the game to volley. for all that, he brings it to the court more often than not. he will run and run all day and has a tremendous engine. he reminds me of Chang and if the gods are kind, one day in the future he will win the French Open. after all Muster did it and I can't see how Tommy has any less desire and work ethic than Thomas.

adee-gee
11-15-2006, 10:52 PM
Bullshit. Murray anyone?
Murray learnt everything he needs to know on the many clay courts in Scotland :p

Deivid23
11-15-2006, 10:56 PM
Murray learnt everything he needs to know on the many clay courts in Scotland :p

:p

On a serious note, as weird as it sounds I think Robredo is a worse player nowadays than for example in 2003 where he was ranked like 20-30th in the world. And no, I´m not a Robredo hater, I´m indifferent to him

Eden
11-15-2006, 10:57 PM
Hmm, I don't think you are appreciating Kucera's year enough. He was at his top and a very crafty, intelligent, brilliant player ;) He was not out of place there. Rusedski was, though. But even at that surface, he was dangerous.

My words weren't meant disrespectful towards the mentioned players. Sorry, if I sounded wrong ;)

Deivid23
11-15-2006, 10:58 PM
his backhand has always been his better shot in my book and like a good wine it's improving with time.

Please tell me you´re sarcastic here

JustmeUK
11-15-2006, 11:08 PM
Please tell me you´re sarcastic here

not at all I'm being serious here. his shots have never been classically beautiful but he gets lots of topspin of that side and finds some great angles too. certainly it has more variety than his forehand (and more penetration too)

Deivid23
11-15-2006, 11:09 PM
not at all I'm being serious here. his shots have never been classically beautiful but he gets lots of topspin of that side and finds some great angles too. certainly it has more variety than his forehand (and more penetration too)

That bh is not bad when it´s on but it can really be a shameful shot in many ocassions. His fh is much more reliable

JustmeUK
11-15-2006, 11:23 PM
yes but to be fair this year it's been more on than off compared to last year. in fact that's the shot that has impressed me most this year from him hence my remark about improving with time.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
11-15-2006, 11:34 PM
yes but to be fair this year it's been more on than off compared to last year. in fact that's the shot that has impressed me most this year from him hence my remark about improving with time.

Shouldn't have made the Masters. Problem is that Roger hoovers up all the points and the clay runner-up points, Rafa hoovers up all the clay points, so the rest are left to fight over scraps.

So when Robredo won the Mickey Mouse Hamburg tournament (top 3 clay players Rafa, Fed, Nalb all out, Coria unable to serve, Gaudio playing hopeless) it was worth a lot more points than the scraps normally available. That's how he got in. Next year he will prob be down to about 20 in the world where he belongs.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
11-15-2006, 11:36 PM
Bullshit. Murray anyone?

Murray's grips became fixed before he went over to Spain.

The Spaniards (and the Argentines apart from Nalbandian) learn how to hit western forehands and run around 10 feet behind the baseline. Helps them on clay, hinders them everywhere else.

vahep
11-16-2006, 01:18 AM
Hey, don't blame MTF on this one. Goran got the ball rolling for this avalanche. Funny too, because I think Robredo would have killed Goran prime vs prime (on the court not in an alley...in an alley I give the edge to Goran).

martinatreue
11-16-2006, 04:16 AM
Goran Ivanisevic is the same guy who made hateful, homophobic remarks. He is a bigtime assehole. Robredo has a very nice game and beautiful backhand and great mobility. He earned his place in the Masters Cup. Incredibly rude comments by former players don't take away his accomplishments.

ROCK ON TOMMY!

zicofirol
11-16-2006, 05:54 AM
4. He is a great defensive player - like Chang, like Muster, like Sanchez-Vicario - some people find this boring but don't we need a diverse range of players? There would be no great rallies if everyone just hit winners constantly.



He is an underdog that never beats anyone when he is an underdog, terrible against top players.


And how can you compare him with GS winner, ridiculous post...

mickymouse
11-16-2006, 06:42 AM
The TMC was a great opportunity for him to gain our respect but he didn't do himself any favor by being the first to be eleiminated.

scarecrows
11-16-2006, 06:49 AM
The TMC was a great opportunity for him to gain our respect but he didn't do himself any favor by being the first to be eleiminated.

well, he won a set

that was way above our considerations

Seneca
11-16-2006, 07:33 AM
Though I find his game one of the more... umm, unstimulating ones on the tour, I do give credit for Robredo for his achievements. A couple of years ago (I'm thinking of Roland Garros 2003), his forehand a fearsome shot especially on clay. Now he has a more complete game. He plays well within his limits but lacks that certain killer shot, mean streak or cutting edge to juice me up watching his matches actively.

Peter Bodo coined a term 'the human litmus test' describing Davydenko's standing in the game. A lot of flashy players - Berdych for example - have horrendous records against him and have publicly claimed Coca-Kolya to be their toughest opponent on tour. In a way, Tommy occupies the same niche on clay, if on a somewhat lower level. But if you do beat him, chances are you've played really well for long stretches of the match:

Furthermore, the HLT is a player who won't beat himself, and one who demands that an opponent bring a high measure of technical, strategic and emotional maturity to the party. The HLT will give you nothing, and he'll beat anyone who lays back expecting a handout. By the same token, if you're bold and confident and inventive enough, you can nose him right off the bowl of chow and you'll barely get a growl of protest out of him.

Robredo never had a shot at progressing even from the more pedestrian Gold Group but his ranking is exactly where it should be. I have tremendous amount of respect for these guys who see their chance of the year when the Big Guns are out of a major tournament and then actually proceed and make the most of that chance. It's not like Robredo ever was or will be a stable fixture in the clay MS finals but the one time he had a realistic shot at a big title, he took it.

In the shadow of today's two tennis giants, that is as heroic an effort as there can be.

Fed-Express
11-16-2006, 10:37 AM
Get used to it, this is flaming-hating-MTF after all. He might be the 6th best player in the world in a popular and competitive sport, but that is tennis' problem as an individual sport. Everything gets personal and single players are hated and attacked relentlessly.
If he was the 6th best soccer player he would be the star of his team and worth 50 million €, everybody would love him. But this is tennis, and people think they have the right to judge the world's no. 1 without even thinking a minute about how riciculous their posts are...whatever :rolleyes:

mashamaniac
11-16-2006, 04:23 PM
i really love his style of play...a sigle handed backhand,though lots of players like richie,blake,haas,etc are playin' with single handed backhands but i personally would pick him and haas' backhands after roger's! so i definitely respect him!

propi
11-16-2006, 06:19 PM
It's really funny to see some of the signatures of these bragging out about how bad Tommy is, they're plenty of players who have not reached as much as him so it's ironic for me and I hope sarcasm or envy from them :lol:
Tommy got his chance and won fair and simple in Hamburg, if he managed to get to top 5 is because only 4 more players did better than him in 12 months.
For me Tommy is a pleasure to watch because of his tennis, his forehand is very underrated and his backhand is very elegant... he has everything that a top player needs but nothing that is more notable, he's a fine balaced player, plus his personality just makes press don't focus on him too much (Spanish press just talk about him when losing, that's sad being a top 10), and I think that he prefers it that way to make his life go on so that he can control it.
Vamos Tommy :worship: let's hope 2007 is even better :worship:

Hokit
11-17-2006, 03:04 AM
I respect a person who's done the hard work to get the results more than a person who has the talent but can't be bothered to make good use of it.

Robredo's been playing week in and week out, so I can't see why anyone's surprised he qualified for the Championships. O.K., Ancic and others may have done as much work, but they didn't win the important titles or made it far enough at certain tournaments.

Besides, the "Race" is based on points from the start of the season only. Really, what else can players do to shut up all those complaints about who deserves to qualify or not? :confused:

ChinoRios4Ever
11-17-2006, 03:11 AM
robredo is a great player, a true fighter, great fh and defense game
he's one of most underrated players in the ATP right now, see Bercy, making the SF to qualify to Shanghai, also he won a AMS in Hamburg, he deserved to be top 10 :yeah:

Ferrero Forever
11-17-2006, 05:26 AM
I don't understand why so many people are so mean to Tommy Robredo.

1. He ISN'T as good as most players, but that is why he has to work so much harder to be in the top 15 then most of the other players.

2. He is a great underdog, why shouldn't we respect him? He is smaller than the opposition, he doesn't have such big shots, and yet he fights with all his heart and battles to a ranking of No.6 and a Masters Series title - what a great story of someone achieveing things against the odds.

3. He is a lovely guy with beautiful looks - I think he brings a lot to the tour with his positive attitude and his film star good looks.

4. He is a great defensive player - like Chang, like Muster, like Sanchez-Vicario - some people find this boring but don't we need a diverse range of players? There would be no great rallies if everyone just hit winners constantly.

I think he is a great story - can anyone on here really say they are better than him? He has worked hard to get the most out of the game - surely this is an admirable thing?

I doubt I've changed anyone's opinion but if I have then it was worth posting.
Yeah you didn't need to post this. I already think he's awesome (though I agree with everything you said)

BlakeorHenman
11-17-2006, 06:02 PM
Uhh... I think it's because he's just really, really. really, incredibly boring on and off the court. In fact, I think I care less about Robredo one way or another than even guys out of the top 200 that I've never heard of.

Just Cause
01-02-2007, 07:24 AM
Uhh... I think it's because he's just really, really. really, incredibly boring on and off the court. In fact, I think I care less about Robredo one way or another than even guys out of the top 200 that I've never heard of.

With a look like he does, he can be boring and girls can keep on coming..lol..

Action Jackson
01-02-2007, 07:25 AM
He is excellent at cooking barbeque prawns.

Yvy
01-21-2007, 09:50 AM
Well, first of all, I do not use to post there, nevertheless I have been reading some of your comments about Tommy Robredo and if he deserves or not to be in the top ten. I think these people (they will recognize themselves) must be more humble, because who are them in order to judge if he deserves or not? Robredo has achieve good results as everybody knows: MS Hamburg (without Nadal or Federer? ok, but they were more than 30 other players who could have won), Bastad (defeating 6/2 6/1 Davydenko) 2 other semifinals in MS, and a good tournament in Shangai for instance... As a result, the counts are good, Tommy is in the place he deserve on the top ten... nobody has give him his ranking for present. Be a little more respectuous, please. I understand all the people can not like his game, but calling him 'Boredo' for instance show how this people is... and it makes me :confused:
I do not like at all Nadal's game for instance, and I do not pass my time critizicising him...
And finally, for the Australian Open, Roger is fave to win next match, but I am sure Tommy will do his best as he does every time he is on court:yeah:
Go Tommy!!:worship:

buzz
01-21-2007, 10:03 AM
I'm one who really likes his game. Nice FH nice BH good footwork. Very smooth actually :worship: No big weaknesses IMO

richie21
01-21-2007, 10:03 AM
in contrary,he has still everything to prove......
any decent player would have beaten Gasquet today

Jevel
01-21-2007, 10:11 AM
He's very good and he's quite speedy. It's been a good tournament for him.

Peoples
01-21-2007, 10:15 AM
It's normal that people question him because he has such poor records against the top 10. Negative record with 9 out of 10 top players. People questioned Davydenko also but by sustaining his place he has proven himself. Why this topic title? Every player has everything to prove, by defending their points every week.

juanqui.ferrero
01-21-2007, 10:16 AM
in contrary,he has still everything to prove......
any decent player would have beaten Gasquet today
Of course, of course... Then if he had lost today, I can't imagine how much you would all have bashed him... And Richard would have been a hero of course... Pfff...

richie21
01-21-2007, 10:29 AM
Of course, of course... Then if he had lost today, I can't imagine how much you would all have bashed him... And Richard would have been a hero of course... Pfff...

it depends on how well he would have played :o
note that before this match,i was saying that Richard was playing badly in this tournament and that if he didn t lift his game,Robredo would beat him in straight sets.........that's almost what happened :o

tennis2tennis
01-21-2007, 10:49 AM
any player who hasn't won a grandslam has a 'thing to prove'

bad gambler
01-21-2007, 10:52 AM
What is his best slam result to date?

And you say he has nothing to prove?

Allstar
01-21-2007, 10:54 AM
Robredo is a success story and gives hope to players like Mathieu. Was so mentally fragile before last year and would choke from all positions. Always been a fighter but now proven he can win from ahead. Very strong mentally

*Ljubica*
01-21-2007, 11:02 AM
Sadly some of the haters here on MTF will never respect Robredo because they see him as a "clay court specialist", a "moonballer", or whatever other disparaging comment they wish to throw at him. Frankly I don't care what they think! As a Tommy fan I am proud that he's in the Top 10 and has reached the Masters Cup, and as far as I'm concerned let the haters stew in their own bitterness and ignore them :angel:

adee-gee
01-21-2007, 11:06 AM
If Robredo beats Federer, he will have some new found respect and a new fan :)

juanqui.ferrero
01-21-2007, 11:08 AM
I think the person who began that thread meant that Tommy has nothing to prove to his haters, because I sadly think they won't change their mind whatever the results he does. As much as Marat is loved, I think they need someone to bash, that's all. That's a great mentality.

Anyway, he has things to prove as a player, and I'm sure he will.

Rosie, I wish I could ignore the comments of his haters as you do, but I'm so astonished to read how mean some people can be that it affects me. Surely bitterness has something to do with it, as they can't stand our "Boredo" beating their great and talented fave players... :rolleyes:

richie21
01-21-2007, 11:14 AM
Sadly some of the haters here on MTF will never respect Robredo because they see him as a "clay court specialist", a "moonballer", or whatever other disparaging comment they wish to throw at him. Frankly I don't care what they think! As a Tommy fan I am proud that he's in the Top 10 and has reached the Masters Cup, and as far as I'm concerned let the haters stew in their own bitterness and ignore them :angel:


well ,he has won all titles on clay and he's had his best GS results at the FO.
adding to the fact he is spanish, you can understand why he is labelled as a clay court specialist....:o

juanqui.ferrero
01-21-2007, 11:17 AM
Well, actually, from today on, his best GS results are quarters both in RG and the AO ;)

Besides, he went to the semis in Cincinnati and Paris... Pretty good for a claycourt specialist :p

MrJ
01-21-2007, 11:21 AM
I congratulate him on reaching a quarter of a hard court Slam, its a great start to the year. :) I think he should be praised for getting the most out of his game, the likes of Safin should take note.

vincayou
01-21-2007, 11:27 AM
in contrary,he has still everything to prove......
any decent player would have beaten Gasquet today

What are looking for? The prize of the most annoying Richie fan? You already have it, no competition so cut the crap!!!

You are either a fanboy ("richie will win the next 5 slams and beats the crap out of Fed") or always exagerratly critisizing him ("he has no serve, no return, no mental, no physic, no backhand, etc...).

But the worst, really, the worst, is that you can't stop talking about him in every frigging thread, even when the subject is not about him at all (like here).

To sum up, you are deeply annoying. :o (your favourite smiley)

fran70
01-21-2007, 11:36 AM
He may be probably not one of the most interesting players to watch but he is definitely an effective player. Although he is a clay court specialist he has good performances on hard courts too and every year that goes by he plays even better in that surface.

richie21
01-21-2007, 11:52 AM
What are looking for? The prize of the most annoying Richie fan? You already have it, no competition so cut the crap!!!

You are either a fanboy ("richie will win the next 5 slams and beats the crap out of Fed") or always exagerratly critisizing him ("he has no serve, no return, no mental, no physic, no backhand, etc...).

But the worst, really, the worst, is that you can't stop talking about him in every frigging thread, even when the subject is not about him at all (like here).

To sum up, you are deeply annoying. :o (your favourite smiley)

that perhaps simply shows that i'm truly a fan of him ;)
oki i'm perhaps overreacting a bit but at least people can clearly see i'm disappointed and sad by this loss which is not something we can necessarly say about all Richie's fans(i'm not talking about you).....

safinaferrero
01-21-2007, 12:23 PM
Well Ivy your thread reminded me a thread i've started a long time ago about JCF i was a bit :( about what was said about him calling him a muppet *pathetic* anyway i agree what was u've said that reflect my mind but no matter what we say, what title Robredo wins, MTF haters will still find smth to call him *Boredo* and so on so there is no point . He deserves to be in the top 10 if there are others tp that should be there TOO they just have to work as much as he did .

What is his best slam result to date?

And you say he has nothing to prove

I honestly believe that Tommy can WIN Roland Garros, make good results in Wimbledon, and who knows about USO&AO he's a mutli surface tennis player, what do u call entertainning game? Coz if u guys think he doesn't have an entertainning game how wuld u call Davydenko game ?? i have nothing against him but then why ppl dt call him Davyborenko??

Sadly some of the haters here on MTF will never respect Robredo because they see him as a "clay court specialist", a "moonballer", or whatever other disparaging comment they wish to throw at him. Frankly I don't care what they think! As a Tommy fan I am proud that he's in the Top 10 and has reached the Masters Cup, and as far as I'm concerned let the haters stew in their own bitterness and ignore them :worship: :worship:

Me too, proud to see what he achieved and it's always a pleasure to watch him play live, or on the tv :)
and as u've said i don't care about MTF haters ;) ( calling him Boredo or whatever) and i'm sure Tommy doesn't give a sh** to them too :lol: so if they enjoy being :devil:&:mad: well we are in democracy :angel:

****The end****

Joyce_23
01-21-2007, 12:24 PM
;) MORE OIL:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZ53c4xrI

I hadn't seen that one yet...:lol: :haha: Man, does he like his oil. It's cute that he actually knows how to cook though. I wouldn't even mind all the oil if it meant I got invited to his home for one of those ehm...cooking parties. ;) :lol:

juanqui.ferrero
01-21-2007, 12:34 PM
Well Ivy your thread reminded me a thread i've started a long time ago about JCF i was a bit :( about what was said about him calling him a muppet *pathetic* anyway i agree what was u've said that reflect my mind but no matter what we say, what title Robredo wins, MTF haters will still find smth to call him *Boredo* and so on so there is no point . He deserves to be in the top 10 if there are others tp that should be there TOO they just have to work as much as he did.

I honestly believe that Tommy can WIN Roland Garros, make good results in Wimbledon, and who knows about USO&AO he's a mutli surface tennis player, what do u call entertainning game? Coz if u guys think he doesn't have an entertainning game how wuld u call Davydenko game ?? i have nothing against him but then why ppl dt call him Davyborenko??

:worship: :worship:

Me too, proud to see what he achieved and it's always a pleasure to watch him play live, or on the tv :)
and as u've said i don't care about MTF haters ;) ( calling him Boredo or whatever) and i'm sure Tommy doesn't give a sh** to them too :lol: so if they enjoy being :devil:&:mad: well we are in democracy :angel:

****The end****
Ditto :worship:

vincayou
01-21-2007, 01:02 PM
:p

On a serious note, as weird as it sounds I think Robredo is a worse player nowadays than for example in 2003 where he was ranked like 20-30th in the world. And no, I´m not a Robredo hater, I´m indifferent to him

He's worse but has a much better ranking. That sounds weird indeed. :lol:

B.B.
01-21-2007, 01:06 PM
I'm joining the proud fan parade and I'm more than happy to read you positive post guys. I agree whole heartily. Glad to see there are some who have sense when it come to Tommy. He indeed has nothing to prove to any one of us. :rolleyes:
He will continue the battle because you can tell his heart is in it 100% every time he steps foot on a court and that's why he will be around for long time to come and he will keep doing very well in the process.

Peoples
01-21-2007, 03:17 PM
He's worse but has a much better ranking. That sounds weird indeed. :lol:

Well, weird opinion coming from a weird person :yawn:

GlennMirnyi
01-21-2007, 03:25 PM
Joke top 10.

Snowwy
01-21-2007, 04:52 PM
My question to all the people who dont think Robredo is any good..why is he ranked so highly then?

Rogiman
01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
Being top 10 doesn't mean you have to appear in Slam finals and win dozens of MS titles, it means you perform better than the rest other than the other 9, and consistently so.

Robredo is a nowadays a fixture in at least the fourth round of Grand Slams, and the QF at TMS tourneys, and that makes him a legitimate top 10 player.
Also, he may not have the best record (to say the least) against fellow top 10 players, but he does very well against the players he is supposed to beat, most of them at least.

Respect to him for making the most of his game and talent.

mickymouse
01-21-2007, 05:08 PM
The reason he's ranked so high is because of his consistency. He doesn't lose to players he shouldn't be losing to and when he gets a good draw, he takes advantage of it. To me, he's like Nieminen. Decent in all areas but nothing spectacular.

GlennMirnyi
01-21-2007, 05:13 PM
My question to all the people who dont think Robredo is any good..why is he ranked so highly then?

Maybe because he can't defeat a top 10 to save his life?

zicofirol
01-21-2007, 06:04 PM
Joke top 10.

yup, and thats all that needs to be said, the guy just waste a QF spot, because we all know once he gets there he has no chance of winning, everyone would rather see gasquet Federer than see robredo get rolled over by another top 10...

for all those turning to the ranking to justify him being good, i just have one word for you Safin... much better than many ahead of him yet the ranking does not indicate it.

DrJules
01-21-2007, 06:19 PM
His serve has shown a major improvement (he has lost serve only 4 times in 4 matches and served 41 aces), but he should have addressed this major flaw in his game years ago and not leave until he is 24. He still needs to address the weaknesses in his volley game.

I feel with serious work and application he could be a lot better than he is.

Metis
01-21-2007, 07:42 PM
;) MORE OIL:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZ53c4xrI


I guess that answers my question what BBQ prawns are. :lol:

Tommy! He knows how to cook too! :hearts:
The woman who was doing the show obviously had someone in mind when she suggested Tommy should get an Australian girlfriend. :devil:

Raquel
01-21-2007, 07:55 PM
Tommy's great :) Having watched him for many years since he won Hopman Cup with Arantxa back in 2002, it's brilliant to see him keep improving in the 5 years since and moving up the rankings.