Ljubicic vs. Federer,who will win?

he he he lets see how this one comes out....
:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :devil: :)

you need a poll :)

i voted just like i did before the nalbandian match :angel:

There is a lot of pressure on each of the remaining Red Group matches. This will come down (a little bit) to who handles the pressure best!

Ljubicic wins if he serves in the range of 40 aces.

Which match will be played first? If Roddick/Nalby is played first and Andy wins (which seems likely) Roger will tank the match for his good friend Ivan. ;)

Ljubo in 3. Of course, if he'll be fit, and with good serve. :D

Which match will be played first? If Roddick/Nalby is played first and Andy wins (which seems likely) Roger will tank the match for his good friend Ivan. ;)

Oh good point Rofe. To add to the various scenarios, there is now the match timing issue as well.

Enough drama to make me momentarily forget there is a gold group somewhere...

Maybe Ivan! :angel:

Which match will be played first? If Roddick/Nalby is played first and Andy wins (which seems likely) Roger will tank the match for his good friend Ivan. ;)

Wait...if Roddick beats Nalbandian, Roddick is guaranteed to move on, right?

Which match will be played first? If Roddick/Nalby is played first and Andy wins (which seems likely) Roger will tank the match for his good friend Ivan. ;)

yeah I can see now 4 more possibilities in the group :

1)Federer will accidentally fall over a ball kid and surrender the match
2)choke on banana to make it more ironic
3)tumble over upire's chair and squishing 2 flies with one blow ( surrendering the match and break umpire's legs so he can know how to judge in the finals )
4)Federer casually kicking the boll in his face and surrenderering right after thus proving he can get away with anything :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :devil: :devil: :devil:


PS : please dont kill me :angel:

The only chance Ljubo has is if Roger tanks the match.

Ljubicic in 2.

federer - by retirement:angel:

Fedo in 2.

If Ivan plays like he did in a part of second and the third set agains Nalbandian I think he might win a set,but Roger in 2

Ivan doesn't believe he can win...whereas Andy did. Still I voted for Ivan because I am still on crack.

Federer>2

Which match will be played first? If Roddick/Nalby is played first and Andy wins (which seems likely) Roger will tank the match for his good friend Ivan. ;)
:lol:
Well if Blake and Nadal win tomorrow, Blake will likely end up No1 in his group and Nadal possibly No2. It will be really hard for Roger to decide what to do on Thursday. If he wins he could be facing Rafa in the semis. So, he might tank for his own sake... :devil: :D

Federer in 2.

Fed in 3. He want to get the full prize (winning without defeat), so he won't lose this one.

LLuboho.

Federer will tank so he doesn't have to play Nadal in the semis.

Ivan doesn't believe he can win...whereas Andy did. Still I voted for Ivan because I am still on crack.

I didnt know you could get into the mind of these players, thats amazing!!

nadal making the semi that's a joke lol........

nadal making the semi that's a joke lol........

indeed it will be Blake und Davy who will advance

LLuboho.

Federer will tank so he doesn't have to play Nadal in the semis.

The problem with this possibility is that if Federer loses to Ljubicic, there's a good chance he wouldn't even make the semifinals.

Ivan doesn't believe he can win...whereas Andy did. Still I voted for Ivan because I am still on crack.

yeah if that was the case, why did andy shit his pants in the tb today :wavey:

i've said federer would win in straight sets for the past two matches, then when i started watching the matches i changed my mind both times to 3 sets, but this time federer will definitely win in 2. he's already been kind enough to nalbandian and roddick this week letting them have a set each. how generous!

heh this means that almost 40% of MTF think that Ljubicic has strong chance
for semis and more than 20% think that he can win against Roger :D
If this odds were true it would be great for Ljubicic but i think that odds are
a bit more agents him :mad:

I say Federer in 3 .....with some luck...Nalbandian will win in 3 and Lubo goes to semis :)

heh this means that almost 40% of MTF think that Ljubicic has strong chance
for semis and more than 20% think that he can win against Roger :D
If this odds were true it would be great for Ljubicic but i think that odds are
a bit more agents him :mad:

I say Federer in 3 .....with some luck...Nalbandian will win in 3 and Lubo goes to semis :)

I will have to correct my earlier post - if Nalbandian wins, I expect Fed to tank. :)

I thought that for Federer matches there were only 2 choices; Fed in 2 or Fed in 3. I mean, it was true yesterday. Roddick GOT KILLED by Federer. IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE.

At this point... I don't know!!!
Honestly, Federer today, except for saving the match points and the definition moments was not exactly playing his best (of course his not so best, is enough to dance anyone..)

Ljubicic, who the other day looked like a comatose person, today was waaaay better and worst, at the second set, suddenly, he started running like a teen full of hormones.

I want Nalbandian for the second round. And the logic will say that after this day, Ljubo will be tired, so I go with :

Federer on 2

But I wouldn't be surprised if Ljubo wins... Hey, I won't be surprised if Ancic ends in the final actually :lol: I don't think this could became more bizarre

Federer in 2

Has to be Rogi in 2 :)

Federer is fit and Ljubicic is coming back from being wickedly sick.

Next question.

I say Federer in 3 .....with some luck...Nalbandian will win in 3 and Lubo goes to semis :)

Oh there has to be extreme luck for Ljubo to lose in 3 sets and still make it to the semifinals...giving he chance that roger > ljubo 2-1 and nalbandian>roddick 2-1 then the SF participants are decided based on games..and there something really extraordinary has to happen...
please refer to this post for details http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4453066&postcount=32

In short terms: Ljubo has to gain as many games by losing which is theoretically +4 games (in a loss with a result of 6-0 6-7 6-7)...even with that odd result Ljubo would still need Nalbandian to beat Roddick by 2 sets to 1 and with at least 6 games but no more than 7 games of surplus.

That is kind of an impossible combination.

Ljubo has to win in 2 sets or he's out (there is a combination that Ljubo wins in 3 sets but has to manage at least 7 games of surplus like a result 6-2 6-7 6-2 to go to SF).

That's why I voted Ljubo in 2 :p

Roger in 2. Loobs might pay a few sercurity guards a couple of dollars to throw some balls on to court soOo :rolleyes: , you never know.

Roger in 3

Roger in 2. Loobs might pay a few sercurity guards a couple of dollars to throw some balls on to court soOo :rolleyes: , you never know.

that's what we were waiting for :D
But isn't a more plausible explanation that uncle Toni actually paid the security guard so that Roger is eliminated before the semis and Nadal has a clear path to the title?

Roger in 2. Loobs might pay a few sercurity guards a couple of dollars to throw some balls on to court soOo :rolleyes: , you never know.

:lol: :lol:

One question was a security guard or a ballboy? ESPN said a ballboy.. Because the only people that actually can touch the balls are the ballboys.

Plus, whoever it was, Nalbo probably killed him by now in a very violent way... Better to start to looking for another ;)

Federer 6-4, 6-4

Federer in 3

Ljubicic will never beat Fed.


ever.

In short terms: Ljubo has to gain as many games by losing which is theoretically +4 games (in a loss with a result of 6-0 6-7 6-7)...even with that odd result Ljubo would still need Nalbandian to beat Roddick by 2 sets to 1 and with at least 6 games but no more than 7 games of surplus.

That is kind of an impossible combination.


Yeah, a window of just 2 different 3-set outcomes and even that ONLY with the best possible loss in 3 to Fed. Just 2 games worse defeat and the window shrinks completely and then its all between David and Andy.
It's safe to conclude that there is no way Ljubo advances unless he beats Fed. And comparing their games and weapons I just don't see Ljubo winning, except if Fed tanks or gets ill or something like that.
So, chances are that David and Andy will decide who goes to SF between themselves.

I will have to correct my earlier post - if Nalbandian wins, I expect Fed to tank. :)

:yeah: Amen.

However it seems most likely that Roddick wins -maybe even in straights - so Fed will have to win at least one set, and even that won't guarantee he'll make it to the SF. He'd better play to win.

Ljubicic will never beat Fed.


ever.

I think he's like 3-10 against Federer but I know there is a player who has won only 1 match in 13 meetings.

Ljubicic wins if he serves in the range of 40 aces.

Ljubicic wins if Federer has to play with one leg ;)

Ljubicic will never beat Fed.


ever.

Ljubicic beat him 3 times already :wavey:
And what about RoDICK?
1 in 13? :lol: and blowing 3 MP's yesterday :haha:

Federer in 3. Not really for any reason though except for that nearly everything is going three :lol: