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Verd
11-13-2006, 03:50 PM
  

marcRD
11-13-2006, 03:52 PM
Davy wokeup in the 3rd and showed Robredo for what he is.

JustJames
11-13-2006, 03:54 PM
Good start for Kolya.. :yeah:

Actually surprised that Robredo managed to win a set...

~EMiLiTA~
11-13-2006, 03:55 PM
wtf happened in the 3rd? kolya just stepped it up?

MrJ
11-13-2006, 03:55 PM
So is it Davy Blake next? :confused:

revolution
11-13-2006, 03:55 PM
PMK sucked bad in the second set.. UEs all over the shop.

Still if Boredo was going to win a set against any player in the whole TMC, PMK was always the most likely victim.

Metis
11-13-2006, 03:55 PM
Robredo should have won it in 2. And what was he doing in that game at 1*-2 in the third set? Two unbelievable misses at the net. It was all downhill after that...

Tommy :smash:

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 03:57 PM
What does it matter that he won a set? Who won? All right then.

Go PMK!

nobama
11-13-2006, 04:02 PM
How did this Top Ten clown Boredo even win a set? He's such a joke of a player, with no real weapons to speak of. :rolleyes:

(Did I miss anything? :p)Goran just recently said that there's something wrong with men's tennis when Robredo makes TMC. Apparently the guys on the seniors tour think the regular tour is a joke. :rolleyes:

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 04:03 PM
Goran just recently said that there's something wrong with men's tennis when Robredo makes TMC. Apparently the guys on the seniors tour think the regular tour is a joke. :rolleyes:

Goran's just great. Yeah, there are a lot of wrong things in mens' tennis nowadays.

Jimnik
11-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Not a good start from Kolya. I don't think he's adapted to the surface yet but at least he kept it together. :)

Robredo was the better player in the first set but he just couldn't hold his nerve. He looked a bit tired in the 3rd set.

helen phillips
11-13-2006, 04:06 PM
Davydenko was down throughout the 1st set and just kept pulling through. Solid third set after a shaky 2nd (though only 1 break in the 2nd).

The transparent jealousy of the Robredo haters is pitiful. Don't hate Tommy because he's beautiful, he can't help it.

Metis
11-13-2006, 04:06 PM
Goran just recently said that there's something wrong with men's tennis when Robredo makes TMC. Apparently the guys on the seniors tour think the regular tour is a joke. :rolleyes:
It is not surprising at all. It happens in every aspect in life. Older generations always think that the younger ones have it easier than they did. Times were harder, blah, blah, etc.... therefore the achievements of the younger generations are not as worthy as their own.

(Not everyone things like that of course, but that's the general feeling)

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 04:11 PM
It is not surprising at all. It happens in every aspect in life. Older generations always think that the younger ones have it easier than they did. Times were harder, blah, blah, etc.... therefore the achievements of the younger generations are not as worthy as their own.

(Not everyone things like that of course, but that's the general feeling)

Oh yeah, it's so much difficult to play against Ljubicic, Roddick and Robredo than against Sampras, Krajicek and Agassi. :rolleyes:

scoobs
11-13-2006, 04:13 PM
Ivanisevic ought to try and recall that the old ATP Tour World Championships in the 90s featured in its top 8 such luminaries as Nicolas Lapentti, Karol Kucera, Alberto Berasetegui, Emilio Sanchez and Karol Novacek

In short you do get players in the from time to time who haven't scaled any major heights.

helen phillips
11-13-2006, 04:14 PM
Goran just recently said that there's something wrong with men's tennis when Robredo makes TMC. Apparently the guys on the seniors tour think the regular tour is a joke. :rolleyes:

Goran finds Tommy pretty and, unable to accept his desire, is lashing out at Tommy. Poor guy, the ability to appreciate male beauty doesn't make you a mo Goran. Love the guy but everday is a tightrope walk, from a mental health perspective.

Sunset of Age
11-13-2006, 04:15 PM
... Too sexy for this tourney?

He's most definitely a looker! And that's about his only role in this tournament. Well, duh. ;)

NadalMachine
11-13-2006, 04:15 PM
How did this Top Ten clown Boredo even win a set? He's such a joke of a player, with no real weapons to speak of. :rolleyes:

(Did I miss anything? :p)

Why does a spanish person hate a good spanish player so much?:eek: :eek: :eek:

Sofonda Cox
11-13-2006, 04:17 PM
... Too sexy for this tourney?
:drool:

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 04:19 PM
Why does a spanish person hate a good spanish player so much?:eek: :eek: :eek:

It's sarcasm, my friend.

helen phillips
11-13-2006, 04:35 PM
Oh, you mean he's moved on from making homophobic comments now? :tape:

Anyway, I seriously don't get why Tommy is constantly used as an example of the tour's alleged suck factor. Wasn't it just a few weeks/months ago that people were still calling Davydenko a joke Top Ten player? As some have already pointed out, Tommy was at several times just a point away from winning the first set (and by extension, the match in straight sets). Is the gulf in class between the two of them so great now that educated MTF opinions have suddenly changed? :tape:

If Goran thinks Tommy doesn't deserve to be present, then who does? Fatdave, whom most everyone agrees has more talent than Tommy but whom everyone blasted yesterday for not working hard enough to get where he is?

Anyway, I'm sure if everyone just serve-bombed their way to a grand slam title no one would be complaining about the state of mens' tennis. :zzz:


Let's just face the facts that many of the posters couldn't fill the back of a postage stamp (anybody remember those?) with what they know about playing tennis. If your not pounding winners you aren't any good. Hence their really isn't much difference between Robredo and Davydenko and they are both boring because they out manouver and out last opponents rather than hit through them. It's a tale as old as time - and just as original.

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 04:40 PM
Let's just face the facts that many of the posters couldn't fill the back of a postage stamp (anybody remember those?) with what they know about playing tennis. If your not pounding winners you aren't any good. Hence their really isn't much difference between Robredo and Davydenko and they are both boring because they out manouver and out last opponents rather than hit through them. It's a tale as old as time - and just as original.

Bad misconception.

Metis
11-13-2006, 05:07 PM
Oh yeah, it's so much difficult to play against Ljubicic, Roddick and Robredo than against Sampras, Krajicek and Agassi. :rolleyes:
This sentence doesn't make much sense as a response to my post. First of all you don't seem to understand that I was talking in general not just about tennis. Secondly your response doesn't make any sense because you mention Sampras and Agassi on one hand and then you omit Federer and Nadal on the other.

Not surprising though since your posts tend to be biased and not supported by well-contructed arguments. Don't worry though. You are still young. Hopefully you can get better. :p

DDrago2
11-13-2006, 05:12 PM
The transparent jealousy of the Robredo haters is pitiful. Don't hate Tommy because he's beautiful, he can't help it.



:retard:

LK_22
11-13-2006, 05:33 PM
A poor quality game for a TMC, until Davydenko showed his class in the third. Davydenko really struggled today though, and Robredo should have won in straight sets, if he could really hurt Davydenko in any way :o

And on the Goran issue, I think he's a bit sore that Robredo got in instead of Ancic. If Ancic hadn't had got injured though, it would be almost certain he would have made it in

Nando_L
11-13-2006, 05:35 PM
Kolya :D

revolution
11-13-2006, 06:07 PM
Goran's forehand was superb, you aren't telling me he was serve-only are you come on?

revolution
11-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Let's just face the facts that many of the posters couldn't fill the back of a postage stamp (anybody remember those?) with what they know about playing tennis. If your not pounding winners you aren't any good. Hence their really isn't much difference between Robredo and Davydenko and they are both boring because they out manouver and out last opponents rather than hit through them. It's a tale as old as time - and just as original.

Murray and Djokovic have more potential and talent than those two and they don't pound winners.

juanqui.ferrero
11-13-2006, 06:11 PM
The transparent jealousy of the Robredo haters is pitiful. Don't hate Tommy because he's beautiful, he can't help it.
:worship:
Ditto.

:worship:

selyoink
11-13-2006, 06:14 PM
Good job on the win Davydenko.

Jagermeister
11-13-2006, 06:18 PM
Kolya...woo!

RonE
11-13-2006, 06:25 PM
Kolya :yeah:

So important to keep the momentum from his Paris victory going by winning his first match. Good start!

Voo de Mar
11-13-2006, 06:47 PM
I thought that Tommy will win in two sets. He was so near to do this - he had three set points in the first set. For him it is third similar defeat this autumn in Asia:
Mumbai - Tursunov 6-7 6-3 1-6
Tokyo - Hyung-Taik 6-7 6-4 1-6
Shanghai - Davydenko 6-7 6-3 1-6

rrfnpump
11-13-2006, 06:58 PM
Tommy :sobbing: :sad:

CooCooCachoo
11-13-2006, 07:06 PM
How did this Top Ten clown Boredo even win a set? He's such a joke of a player, with no real weapons to speak of. :rolleyes:

(Did I miss anything? :p)

:yeah: :)

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 07:28 PM
This sentence doesn't make much sense as a response to my post. First of all you don't seem to understand that I was talking in general not just about tennis. Secondly your response doesn't make any sense because you mention Sampras and Agassi on one hand and then you omit Federer and Nadal on the other.

Not surprising though since your posts tend to be biased and not supported by well-contructed arguments. Don't worry though. You are still young. Hopefully you can get better. :p

What I'm saying, clever boy, is that Goran can say that, because his top 10 fellows were much better than today's Davydenkos, Robredo, Roddicks, Ljubicic, Nadals, Blakes and things like that. Only Federer can be compared to the the greats of Goran's days.

Got it now? I bet it was difficult before, but now if you don't... well... leave it alone.

Scotso
11-13-2006, 07:55 PM
Nikolay :banana:

(Tommy :sad: )

Metis
11-13-2006, 07:55 PM
What I'm saying, clever boy, is that Goran can say that, because his top 10 fellows were much better than today's Davydenkos, Robredo, Roddicks, Ljubicic, Nadals, Blakes and things like that. Only Federer can be compared to the the greats of Goran's days.

Got it now? I bet it was difficult before, but now if you don't... well... leave it alone.
:haha: That's not what you said. Your choice of 3 names from each generation of players was calculated to show an advantage from the older generation. You chose the best from the old (including such legends as Sampras and Agassi) and the worst from the new, conveniently omitting some names. That my friend is not an objective and complete argument and that was my point. Do YOU get it now?

Goran's statement fits nicely with what other retired players have said about the new generation, which follows an all familiar pattern (old times were the good times). You agree with his statement, others don't.

Oh, and another thing you were wrong about. I am a girl (you were right about the clever part though!) :D

GlennMirnyi
11-13-2006, 08:03 PM
I was extremely sarcastic, yes, milady. ;)

TheBoiledEgg
11-13-2006, 08:04 PM
Kolya was so awful in start :help:

still a win....... now to clean up big butt on Wed.

Katastrophe
11-13-2006, 11:24 PM
Nice win Kolya! :yeah:

Five
11-14-2006, 09:46 AM
:woohoo:
he scared the hell outta me in the 2nd set :fiery: ;)

UDACHi
11-15-2006, 02:08 AM
DAVAI KOLYA! :rocker2:

shotgun
11-15-2006, 02:20 AM
Boredo deserves some credit, people here treating him as the laughing stock of the TMC and he already took a set off the bandwagon player of the month.