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Is Sampras is trying to mess with The King to protect his record? (article from ESPN)

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 07:37 PM
This article really caught my attention. I am curious about what you think about what this writer says....

by: James Martin, TENNIS.com
posted: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 | Feedback | Print Entry
filed under: Tennis

You know you've had an amazing season when your biggest stumbling block was a bed. We speak of The King -- Roger Federer. Blogging from Tokyo in October, Rog wrote about how he woke up in the middle of the night "screaming in a state of shock" and proceeded to bang his leg on the sharp wood frame. That didn't stop him from winning the tournament, of course. Or the one after that, in Madrid. Or the one after that, in Basel.

The guy is devouring tournaments like Pac Man with a serious case of the munchies.

As Federer heads into the season-ending Masters Cup next week, which pits the top eight players in round-robin competition, he won't be playing for the No. 1 ranking -- he locked that up months ago. And though Rafa and Roddick will be gunning for him, Federer's stiffest competition is against the player he's most compared to, one of his childhood heroes, Pete Sampras.

Forget Federer and Nadal. The most important rivalry in tennis is between Federer and Sampras. There certainly isn't another topic that stirs the hearts and minds of fans more than the question, Who's better?

The head-to-head record provides virtually no insight. The two played once, in the quarterfinals of Wimbledon in 2001, which Federer won. And you can break down all of their strokes, one by one, but that's subjective (other than the fact, which has nothing to do with their greatness, that Federer is exciting to watch, while Pete induced yawns big enough to be named hurricanes).

Then there are the individual accomplishments. Although Sampras leads in virtually all departments, Federer is quickly closing in. At 25 years old, he already has 44 singles titles to Sampras' 64, and Fed cares more about proving himself week in, week out, than Sampras ever did. In other words: Kiss that record goodbye.

In 2006, Federer put together a masterpiece of a season that overshadows anything Sampras did in a calendar year. He became the first male player since Rod Laver in 1961-62 to reach six consecutive major finals and the first player ever to win both Wimbledon and the U.S. Open three straight times. Most impressively, Federer came up one match short of the game's most celebrated accomplishment, the Grand Slam, which hasn't been done since Laver in 1969.

But you can throw all of that out. It doesn't matter. There's just one stat that counts when you're talking about Roger and Pete: Who'll end up with the most Grand Slam titles. Sampras has the all-time record with 14; Federer has 9. But short of the Swiss star having another mishap with a bed, that record will fall. The debate will be over.

And Pete knows it.

After Federer won this year's U.S. Open, he received a text message, out of the blue. Sampras wrote to congratulate him. He called Federer three days later to see if he got the text. (Apparently, the world's No. 1 is quick to return tennis balls, not messages.) "Pete said that I dominate the sport more than he used to," Federer told TENNIS Magazine. "It showed me that Sampras is pretty relaxed now. Records are there to be broken."

Perhaps Pete is chill. Or perhaps he's trying to get into Federer's headspace. You know how it goes: If someone is schooling you on a tennis court, one well-known tactic is to gush praise over them in the hopes that he'll relax, lose focus, and ultimately lose the match. It might be reading too much into a man who spends most of his time playing golf and poker. But it's fun to think Sampras is trying to mess with The King to protect his record.

One thing is certain: Federer will continue his march to becoming the best player of all time, and his hero will be watching.

Pfloyd
11-10-2006, 07:39 PM
This article is non-sensical. The very fact that at the end the author is saying "It's fun to think that Sampras is trying to mess with The King..." shows a bit of a childish attitude IMO.

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 07:44 PM
This article is non-sensical. The very fact that at the end the author is saying "It's fun to think that Sampras is trying to mess with The King..." shows a bit of a childish attitude IMO.

That makes perfect sense to me. I wasn't sure if I was reading it right or not. Doesn't seem like something Sampras would do- obviously he would like his record to stand up, but couldn't the congrats text message be legit?

Deboogle!.
11-10-2006, 07:45 PM
I agree with you guys. That's just not the kind of guy Pete seems to be. that "article" strikes me as a whole load of drama-seeking :bs:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2006, 07:52 PM
I get the impression the author's just being a Drama Queen.
Nothing new, so to say.

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 07:53 PM
Here is more from the source-

Right now, Federer's record lacks in just one area, and it's the major reason he sometimes gets short shrift in the GOAT debate. He hasn't won any of those epic matches that convince the public that he's a warrior in the Jimmy Connors, Bjorn Borg or Sampras mold. He needs a Corretja moment, a crazy go-to-Moscow-and-win-the-Davis-Cup-single-handedly event, a Grand-Slam-title-in-the-last-match-of-his-career kind of thing. And it doesn't help him that there isn't a sufficiently "red" player around anymore to bring out the best in him; he's surrounded by fawning minions disguised as rivals (with a few striking exceptions like Rafael Nadal), and that's a pity.

shruti
11-10-2006, 07:57 PM
It might be reading too much into a man who spends most of his time playing golf and poker.


U think? :rolleyes:
The conclusion he's drawn about the whole thing is silly.

Sunset of Age
11-10-2006, 08:00 PM
Hmm. Has it ever occured to the author of this tripe that Rogi perhaps doesn't often HAVE to play 'epic matches', as he's *that* good? (apart from the fact that he DOES - I guess the author has yet forgotten the Miami, Rome and Dubai finals, for instance).
And for his rivals being solely 'fawning minions'... doesn't show much respect towards the other players either. :rolleyes:

Author should find himself a different job than writing about tennis. :mad:

alfonsojose
11-10-2006, 08:05 PM
Sampras sending text messages to Federer. Roger licking Woods' ass any time he can. Did i miss something :shrug: ?

PamV
11-10-2006, 08:06 PM
I like the way the author recognizes how astounding Roger's 2006 has been and everything else he says. As far as Pete trying to get in Roger's.....I am not sure why he'd wait this long to try if that was his objective. On the other hand if he wanted to be friends then why wait this long?

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 08:09 PM
Hmm. Has it ever occured to the author of this tripe that Rogi perhaps doesn't often HAVE to play 'epic matches', as he's *that* good? (apart from the fact that he DOES - I guess the author has yet forgotten the Miami, Rome and Dubai finals, for instance).
And for his rivals being solely 'fawning minions'... doesn't show much respect towards the other players either. :rolleyes:

Author should find himself a different job than writing about tennis. :mad:

That quote stung the most. I know that Fed is controlling most of the H2H's, but he's basically closing the door on the rest of the field. Here is another gem from this guy-

"By contrast, Prada-clad, overly fashion-conscious Federer has emerged as an international icon of the newly Euro-centric game (insert favorite John Kerry/France joke here)."

tangerine_dream
11-10-2006, 08:59 PM
This article is non-sensical. The very fact that at the end the author is saying "It's fun to think that Sampras is trying to mess with The King..." shows a bit of a childish attitude IMO.
I agree. This article was obviously written by a Fedtard. :lol:

Lee
11-10-2006, 09:08 PM
I like the way the author recognizes how astounding Roger's 2006 has been and everything else he says. As far as Pete trying to get in Roger's.....I am not sure why he'd wait this long to try if that was his objective. On the other hand if he wanted to be friends then why wait this long?

Will you stop trying to paint Sampras a bad guy?

Pete totally shut himself out from tennis since 2002. He only pick up his racket less than a year ago playing exhibitions. So it's absolutely normal and reasonable he only contacts Roger after his victory in USO this year.

Skyward
11-10-2006, 09:25 PM
Will you stop trying to paint Sampras a bad guy?

Pete totally shut himself out from tennis since 2002. He only pick up his racket less than a year ago playing exhibitions. So it's absolutely normal and reasonable he only contacts Roger after his victory in USO this year.

:confused: How does the lack of contacts with Fed make him a bad guy?

Lee
11-10-2006, 09:30 PM
:confused: How does the lack of contacts with Fed make him a bad guy?

What does this sound like to you?

On the other hand if he wanted to be friends then why wait this long?

PamV says all those praises to Federer and then use "On the other hand", "why wait this long".

Skyward
11-10-2006, 09:41 PM
What does this sound like to you?



:shrug: Contacts with Fed/the lack of them don't make him a good/bad guy. You're overreacting a little bit.

RonE
11-10-2006, 09:43 PM
Just another "arsonist" trying to ignite some imaginary war :yawn:

R.Federer
11-10-2006, 09:48 PM
The real newsworthy part is that Pete called Roger-- how nice of him. I think they have a healthy respect for each other. I hope Roger wins the calendar slam and leaves the total haul record safe for Pete.

disturb3d
11-10-2006, 09:52 PM
Yeah, very Pete-like move there.
I remember this one time in 1996, when he punched me in the face. Not surprisingly, I took it like a man.

MisterQ
11-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Sampras sending text messages to Federer.

Rog U 1! 2 good! lol 4 petes sake stop!

Boris Franz Ecker
11-10-2006, 10:15 PM
No debate is over if Federer gets 14 Grand Slam titles.

Some guys still debate without real success that Sampras is the actual GOAT.
Same will happen with Federer and his 14 Grand Slam titles.

Federer has the chance to break _all_ records by far.
That's his mission.

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2006, 10:18 PM
Sampras is the king... Federer's on the way but not up there yet.

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 10:30 PM
Well, I think when I look at Roger, I mean, I'm a fan. I mean, I'm a fan of how he plays, what he's about, just the fact that I think he's a class—I don't know him personally, but seems like he's a class guy on and off the court. He's fun to watch. Just his athletic ability, what he's able to do on the run. I think he can and will break every tennis record out there.- Pete Sampras on Roger Federer

Doesn't sound like someone who would deliberately try to mess with Federer like the author suggested.

Nice quote I found about Federer and Sampras both from Ivan Ljubicic :) -

I am so proud to have him around. It is very pity that I am not able to play with Pete Sampras, but it's OK, I can see Federer on the tour. I could tell my grandson someday that I have competed against the greatest player on the planet.- Ivan Ljubicic on Roger Federer

NYCtennisfan
11-11-2006, 05:12 AM
If that is the entire article, then it doesn't paint anybody in a negative light and seems purely tongue-in-cheek.

nobama
11-11-2006, 07:24 AM
I agree. This article was obviously written by a Fedtard. :lol:
Can you ever post a thought that doesn't include the word "fedtard". :rolleyes:

nobama
11-11-2006, 07:25 AM
Stupid article. But no worse than Peter Bozo's first blog for ESPN.

World Beater
11-11-2006, 08:29 AM
Will you stop trying to paint Sampras a bad guy?

Pete totally shut himself out from tennis since 2002. He only pick up his racket less than a year ago playing exhibitions. So it's absolutely normal and reasonable he only contacts Roger after his victory in USO this year.

:haha:

says the person who calls other posters "tenacious" for defending their fav players honor

anserq
11-11-2006, 03:03 PM
FEDERER RULESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

Dancing Hero
11-11-2006, 04:08 PM
Bit of a wise-guy article, disrespecting Pete a touch. Records are there to be broken, sport doesn't stand still. If Sampras got in touch with Roger to congratulate him, I'd take that at face value and say Pete was generous in seeing another great player and wanted to tell Federer that.

NYCtennisfan
11-11-2006, 07:13 PM
Rog U 1! 2 good! lol 4 petes sake stop!

:haha:

silverwhite
11-11-2006, 07:17 PM
Worthless the second :cuckoo: