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TMC RR: Nadal vs. Blake - who will win?

shotgun
11-10-2006, 12:42 PM
Will Nadal finally get his first win over Blake, a player whom he holds a 0-2 record against?

How will Blake deal mentally with his TMC debut?

FluffyYellowBall
11-10-2006, 12:45 PM
i have a feeling nadal will win this match.blakes playing well but not his and might underestimate him because hes injured and lost a lot this year.

Blue Heart24
11-10-2006, 12:46 PM
Blake in 2.

Frooty_Bazooty
11-10-2006, 12:50 PM
for me, its just a case of who's less injured/hurt!

BlueSwan
11-10-2006, 12:51 PM
I think Nadal will make the finals of TMC (if he can avoid Fed in the semi) so I pick him.

Dancing Hero
11-10-2006, 12:54 PM
I have a feeling Nadal will notch up his first win over Blake.

~EMiLiTA~
11-10-2006, 12:54 PM
hard to say because not sure how both these players are at the moment

i will say nadal in 3 but i really don't know

PoderShileno
11-10-2006, 12:58 PM
nadal in 3
vamosss rafa¡¡¡¡

mtw
11-10-2006, 01:00 PM
I prefer Blake.

Horatio Caine
11-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Yeah I think Nadal has a better chance this time around.

Adler
11-10-2006, 01:07 PM
I have no idea, really. Blake seems to be good indoors this year, but he's got problems in bigger events. Nevertheless, he's won all matches against Rafa. Rafa on the other hand had a long break and won only one non-claycourt tournament this year. But it's still Rafa
Maybe Blake in 3

Byrd
11-10-2006, 01:10 PM
hmmm 50/50, but blake knows how to play him and has confidence coming in seeing that he has a winning record over nadal.

shotgun
11-10-2006, 01:16 PM
for me, its just a case of who's less injured/hurt!

You might as well vote for the fifth option then. :lol:

FluffyYellowBall
11-10-2006, 01:19 PM
The two times nadal played blake were in america so thats to be considered

neme6
11-10-2006, 01:26 PM
blake cuz his shots are very strong, and that's allways been the weakness of Nadal!

ChinoRios4Ever
11-10-2006, 03:37 PM
rafa will win in 3
get revenge

Fergie
11-10-2006, 04:39 PM
James in 2 :rocker2:

marcRD
11-10-2006, 04:59 PM
I think it is about time for Nadal to turn the table here. I would go for Nadal, I want to see a Nadal-Federer final in Shangai.

Sunset of Age
11-10-2006, 05:33 PM
Time for Rafa to find his revenge.

GlennMirnyi
11-10-2006, 05:37 PM
Blake = Nadal killa.

stebs
11-10-2006, 06:02 PM
I'm backing Nadal to turn the tables on his 'killa' in three sets.

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Provided Rafa is feeling okay, he wins in three.

t0x
11-10-2006, 06:12 PM
You never know with Blake...

If he's hitting the ball well, he'll win in 2.

But this is out of the states, he could get down on himself and then Rafa will win in 2.

So in conclusion, I don't know! But it's all on Blake...

selyoink
11-10-2006, 06:21 PM
Blake will continue his mastery over Nadal in straight sets.

rmb6687
11-10-2006, 06:23 PM
If Blake doesn't freak out with the pressure of it being the TMC...

hopefully his confidence and the fact that he has beaten Nadal in both their previous meeting will propel him to victory. And when Blake is on, he can play some really great shots. I can't wait!

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 06:25 PM
If Blake doesn't freak out with the pressure of it being the TMC...

hopefully his confidence and the fact that he has beaten Nadal in both their previous meeting will propel him to victory. And when Blake is on, he can play some really great shots. I can't wait!

That's the critical point. Whatever the outcome, it's always a better match when both players show up and stay positive.

Fumus
11-10-2006, 06:32 PM
Blake has this one to lose.

Pfloyd
11-10-2006, 06:36 PM
I've been wrong recently predicting Nadals results. But I am sure that Nadal will sooner or later (I believe sooner rather than later) break this bad-streak his having against tough HC players.

Rafa in 3.

Naranoc
11-10-2006, 06:38 PM
Both aren't playing their best tennis at all this moment, so it's difficult to say, even with Blake's favourable h2h. Both his victories over Nadal were in the States, and he does tend to choke on big occasions, though his style of play (if he's at his best) will always cause Nadal problems.

Blake in 3/ Nadal in 3/No idea!

DrJules
11-10-2006, 06:39 PM
Nadal will finally solve the Blake problem and beat him.

Katastrophe
11-10-2006, 06:42 PM
Both aren't playing their best tennis at all this moment, so it's difficult to say, even with Blake's favourable h2h. Both his victories over Nadal were in the States, and he does tend to choke on big occasions, though his style of play (if he's at his best) will always cause Nadal problems.

Blake in 3/ Nadal in 3/No idea!

This is what I should have said all along! :p

Deboogle!.
11-10-2006, 06:44 PM
I think a couple of factors might be important. First, this: If Blake doesn't freak out with the pressure of it being the TMC...

and second, Rafa just simply seems to be taking it a bit more seriously. he arrived in Shanghai a couple days before James apparently, and has been practicing really hard. James seemed a bit aloof about it all last month when his qualifying was up in the air, so I think that might make a difference. We'll see! :)

Fumus
11-10-2006, 07:02 PM
I think a couple of factors might be important. First, this:

and second, Rafa just simply seems to be taking it a bit more seriously. he arrived in Shanghai a couple days before James apparently, and has been practicing really hard. James seemed a bit aloof about it all last month when his qualifying was up in the air, so I think that might make a difference. We'll see! :)

Oh yea, so aloof that he won a tournement playing some of the best tennis I have ever seen him play.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2006, 07:03 PM
Oh yea, so aloof that he won a tournement playing some of the best tennis I have ever seen him play.Read what he said around Madrid or so, the proof is in his words :shrug:

Fumus
11-10-2006, 07:04 PM
Read what he said around Madrid or so, the proof is in his words :shrug:

He could call himself the worse player on the tour, it wouldn't make it so. He played well at the open and he played great tennis to beat Ivan down in that final, someone that I may add...he had never beaten before.

mangoes
11-10-2006, 07:05 PM
I think Nadal will win this match-up.

Deboogle!.
11-10-2006, 07:06 PM
He could call himself the worse player on the tour, it wouldn't make it so. He played well at the open and he played great tennis to beat Ivan down in that final, someone that I may add...he had never beaten before.Great, that has zero relevance whatsoever to how seriously he's taking TMC or how badly he wants to do well :shrug:

jazar
11-10-2006, 08:47 PM
i think it has 3 sets written all over it. blake has H2H advantage and nadal has not been in great form on the hard courts, but it is the TMC so nadal will have extra motivation. i think the score will be 6-4, 5-7, 7-6 but i cannot say to whom

guga2120
11-10-2006, 08:49 PM
i voted Blake in 3, its hard to call this, not sure about Rafa's health, and Blake has not been playing that well.

JustJames
11-10-2006, 08:54 PM
I have opted for Rafa in three...

Rafa seems able to pull out big performances on the biggest stages..I suppose that's why I've gone for him...

If my choice were to be based on carpet (or whatever the god damn surface is :rolleyes: ) court tennis ability alone then I would have to choose Blakey..

tangerine_dream
11-10-2006, 09:00 PM
I take my vote back. I think James will lose a set but still win. James in 3.

Vamos Rafa and James :banana:

RonE
11-10-2006, 09:31 PM
I'm not sure. I'll have to consult with this fella: ;)

http://www.thebbqshack.com/images/alpert_pig.jpg

doris_hdz
11-10-2006, 09:37 PM
Blake in 3

MrJ
11-10-2006, 09:43 PM
Nadal will finally solve the Blake problem and beat him.

He has had plenty of opportunities to solve the problem of the power hitters, but each time he has failed especially since Wimbly. Adding to the fact he is coming from injury, he will only win if James head goes missing. :wavey:

zimzim
11-10-2006, 09:51 PM
I have a feeling Nadal will notch up his first win over Blake.me too

Dancing Hero
11-10-2006, 09:54 PM
me too

Great minds think alike!:) :wavey:

DrJules
11-10-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm not sure. I'll have to consult with this fella: ;)

http://www.thebbqshack.com/images/alpert_pig.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

But I expect Nadal to win this contest. I think Nadal will use a different stratergy to beat Blake.

Anyway in a few days we will who was correct in their assessment.

mrserenawilliams
11-10-2006, 10:21 PM
Blake, they've both been cold late, but Blake can handle Nadal

Voo de Mar
11-10-2006, 10:23 PM
Blake in three tight sets :devil:

BlakeJamitis
11-10-2006, 10:25 PM
Sad that this is the first match for both of them. This is a marquee matchup - I wish each would have had atleast 1 "warm-up". That should help Nadal. This is his chance to try to win. We'll see.

Go Blake

Pfloyd
11-10-2006, 10:55 PM
I'm so looking forward to this match. It's been quite a while since I've seen a tennis match (thanks to the US ESPN of course).

Metis
11-10-2006, 11:14 PM
I think Nadal will prevail this time, probably in 3 sets. Besides James will not have the J-block cheering for him. (Unless he has arranged for them to fly all the way to Shanghai) :p

guga2120
11-10-2006, 11:54 PM
I'm not sure. I'll have to consult with this fella: ;)

http://www.thebbqshack.com/images/alpert_pig.jpg

i do think Blake will proably win in 3, considering Nadal's health, but if Nadal does make it to the final and plays Federer, i don't think you will be putting that up,:)

henree
11-10-2006, 11:55 PM
Nadal easily in straights. You have to remember that this is a fast surface, and who wins is determined by who holds service the easiest. Blake is very inconsistent on his service games at times. So all Nadal has to do is hold serve and he will win comfortably.And I heard that Nadal has been working like the devil on improing his serve the last few monthes.

Skyward
11-11-2006, 12:10 AM
.And I heard that Nadal has been working like the devil on improing his serve the last few monthes.

With his abdominal injury?

Kalliopeia
11-11-2006, 12:40 AM
With his abdominal injury?

Well he hasn't had the injury for months, just since about a week or so before Paris. And he's been saying it's perfectly fine now. Some people think the work he's been doing on his serve is what caused the injury in the first place.

I'm going with Nadal, in three.

Pfloyd
11-11-2006, 01:19 AM
Nadal easily in straights. You have to remember that this is a fast surface, and who wins is determined by who holds service the easiest. Blake is very inconsistent on his service games at times. So all Nadal has to do is hold serve and he will win comfortably.And I heard that Nadal has been working like the devil on improing his serve the last few monthes.

Although I am a big Nadal fan, I do not think he will beat Blake easily. I wish he could breeze past him, but I don't think so, especially if Blake plays his best. However, I think Nadal will win in three.

NYCtennisfan
11-11-2006, 01:40 AM
Blake if he is really on, but I don't think he will be unfortunately. Nadal gets his first win over Blake.

yomike
11-11-2006, 04:14 AM
Nadal coudnt beat Blake last year when he was on top of his game. I don't think Nadal's level right now is even close, Blake wil pawn him.

Flibbertigibbet
11-11-2006, 05:52 AM
Tennis wins! I hope it's a three set match, though, it'll be interesting with the surface. Also, both of Blake's wins against Nadal have been in the USA, so it'll be a different environment and that might affect Nadal positively.

landoud
11-11-2006, 06:36 AM
James in 3

FluffyYellowBall
11-11-2006, 08:06 AM
With his abdominal injury?


yea hes been traning with his abdominal injury thats now "satisfactory" according to his doctor.

I dont know if thats a ver smart idea. He arrived in shanghai at 5pm, started training at 7 and finished at 10, went to play pool and then left. Its too much

cobalt60
11-11-2006, 07:00 PM
I'm not sure. I'll have to consult with this fella: ;)

http://www.thebbqshack.com/images/alpert_pig.jpg

:eek: That is enough to give one nightmares.

Hoping James in 3. I am not putting any stock in what he said. Can only hope that the James who plays well shows up and rises to the occasion. So whether he wins this match or not; hope he plays his best and gives it his all as most likely Nadal will.

Gulliver
11-11-2006, 09:53 PM
This is amateur psychology but I feel that Blake is "just" happy and relieved to be there, and with not being on his home turf could be overawed by the occasion. Nadal will be really up for it and able to take advantage of any lack of force on Blake's part.

Bad Religion
11-12-2006, 07:37 AM
This match will be played out of USA , so Blake will lose .


I say Rafa in two sets .



Blake , GO HOME

NATAS81
11-12-2006, 07:37 AM
Blake played pretty well in Stockholm.

Oh wait, I guess a title doesn't count for much.

Bad Religion
11-12-2006, 07:45 AM
Blake played pretty well in Stockholm.

Oh wait, I guess a title doesn't count for much.

Exactly .

You're right .

NATAS81
11-12-2006, 07:46 AM
Lolz. Crazy.

connectolove
11-12-2006, 09:12 AM
My believe is that Nadal is a little bit out of it.

silver7
11-12-2006, 09:50 AM
Nadal in 3.
Vamoos

Horatio Caine
11-12-2006, 10:00 AM
Blake played pretty well in Stockholm.

Oh wait, I guess a title doesn't count for much.

That was indoor hard. ;)

This is indoor carpet...the ball will skid through more and stay lower I think :scratch: In which case Nadal's shots won't sit up as much for a clubbing

Plus...this is a huge event and Blake normally gets stage fright

josemanuel
11-12-2006, 10:12 AM
Blake in 3

MrJ
11-12-2006, 10:21 AM
Plus...this is a huge event and Blake normally gets stage fright

Didn´t Blake beat Nadal in a Grand Slam :wavey:

Horatio Caine
11-12-2006, 10:32 AM
Didn´t Blake beat Nadal in a Grand Slam :wavey:

Yeah but that was in the USA...this is far from home where he doesn't have a fan base for starters. Blake grew up on US hardcourts...Nadal struggles to play on them. Also, Blake's record in big events outside the USA... :help:

:wavey:

silverarrows
11-12-2006, 10:35 AM
Blake in 2 straight tight sets.

A_Skywalker
11-12-2006, 10:45 AM
I want Rafa to win ...

Bilbo
11-12-2006, 11:07 AM
I expect Nadal to win in 3 sets. We all know that Blake can't handle the pressure in big tournaments.

MrJ
11-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Yeah but that was in the USA...this is far from home where he doesn't have a fan base for starters. Blake grew up on US hardcourts...Nadal struggles to play on them. Also, Blake's record in big events outside the USA... :help:

:wavey:

:confused: So he beat Nadal because it was in the US, nothing to do with his style of play or the courts. Interesting, I guess we shall see tomorrow!! :wavey:

Horatio Caine
11-12-2006, 11:38 AM
:confused: So he beat Nadal because it was in the US, nothing to do with his style of play or the courts. Interesting, I guess we shall see tomorrow!! :wavey:

I'm not necessarily saying that...what I am saying is that Blake finds an extra gear when he plays in the US...maybe he is more relaxed / pumped :shrug: Outside of the US he struggles somewhat...this is probably more to do with his mental side.

Sure, Blake's game is not a nice match for Nadal...but the Spaniard is still improving and he will find a way to beat Blake eventually...look at Roger with Bandy and Henman for instance.

I would have said Nadal will win tomorrow...but I'm not so sure now in light of the news of his injury.

:wavey:

Bilbo
11-12-2006, 11:39 AM
Timeout is right. Another important point is that Blake beat him twice in the US. Outside the US Blake is not that good.

Xavidbz
11-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Rafa in 2.

MrJ
11-12-2006, 11:50 AM
I'm not necessarily saying that...what I am saying is that Blake finds an extra gear when he plays in the US...maybe he is more relaxed / pumped :shrug: Outside of the US he struggles somewhat...this is probably more to do with his mental side.

Sure, Blake's game is not a nice match for Nadal...but the Spaniard is still improving and he will find a way to beat Blake eventually...look at Roger with Bandy and Henman for instance.

I would have said Nadal will win tomorrow...but I'm not so sure now in light of the news of his injury.

:wavey:

Thanks, that explains it much better. :)
I feel Blake likes to be the underdog and thats when he plays his best. All the pressure will be on Nadal and thats why I have a lot of confidence in this match besides the head 2 head. He also just scrapped through into the cup and will feel he has nothing to lose.

Nadals injury will likely to effect his serve first and foremost and that also will play into James´hand. :cool:

MrJ
11-12-2006, 11:52 AM
Timeout is right. Another important point is that Blake beat him twice in the US. Outside the US Blake is not that good.

I know you dont like Blake :rolleyes:

He has won 4 tornaments outside of the US :cool:

Horatio Caine
11-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Thanks, that explains it much better. :)
I feel Blake likes to be the underdog and thats when he plays his best. All the pressure will be on Nadal and thats why I have a lot of confidence in this match besides the head 2 head. He also just scrapped through into the cup and will feel he has nothing to lose.

Nadals injury will likely to effect his serve first and foremost and that also will play into James´hand. :cool:

No problem ;)

I agree - Blake performs very well as the underdog...whilst there will be a lot of pressure on Nadal, Blake won't go unnoticed as this is the showcase, and he has NEVER lost to Nadal...so there is a little pressure on him to maintain that record as a loss will pile the pressure on his remaining 2 matches. Whilst I also agree that he has nothing to lose, you could also say that because he is playing all top players this week, he has something to prove in managing to beat them.

Nadal's injury is a real problem...without it I'd go with Nadal. But yes, his serve will be hampered, and it is critical he holds serve 80-90% of the time..particularly as Blake will hammer any serve with nothing on it, which will make ir difficult for Nadal to impose his game from the off in the rallies.

gogogirl
11-12-2006, 04:27 PM
Hey All,

I guess any excuse will do when some say Blake only plays good in the US because of the fans. LOL! The man has won four titles outside of the US. This is such a big occasion - so he'll tighten up. Please! Blake has a 50-50 chance of winning this match even though - he's won their previous two meetings.

This is a new day and tourney - so I don't think James is going to freeze up when playing Rafa. On the contrary - he will most likely play aggressive and try to keep the pressure on. They did go to three sets this year - so both can turn it up when it's their turn to. I don't know who'll win - but I wouldn't attribute some of the excuses used here before the first ball is struck and as it pertains to whomever will ultimately be on the losing end of the match and the reasons why.

On any given day a player wins or loses - so Rafa can win and improve their head to head if he is more on than James.

"COME ON JAMES" "SHOW 'EM WHAT YOU CAN DO" "YOU CAN DO IT"

Pammy
11-12-2006, 04:39 PM
Go James, you can do it!:yeah:

Xristos
11-12-2006, 04:43 PM
A Vamoooooooooos!

Kalliopeia
11-12-2006, 06:51 PM
I would have said Nadal will win tomorrow...but I'm not so sure now in light of the news of his injury.

He says that he's completely fine now though. Of course he could just be saying that in order to avoid giving the others a mental edge, but I can't imagine he'd risk worsening an injury like that at this point.

Unless there's a new injury that I don't know about, in which case...:eek:

Daniel
11-13-2006, 12:55 AM
James in 2

Merton
11-13-2006, 12:57 AM
This is a very awkward matchup for Rafa, especially since James seems to actually think what he is doing when they play each other. I will say James in 3, but there are questions about his form and how he will respond to the occasion.

oz_boz
11-13-2006, 09:50 AM
Nadal third time lucky, Blake with lots of UE.

henree
11-13-2006, 09:57 AM
Blake has no chance this time. Nadal will have his revenge.:wavey:

bad gambler
11-13-2006, 09:58 AM
Blake

silverarrows
11-13-2006, 11:07 AM
Blake in three.

mandynyuna
11-13-2006, 12:14 PM
Blake is playing well....Nadal looks a bit off there.

silverarrows
11-13-2006, 12:17 PM
Blake is looking good at the moment. He just won the first set.

shotgun
11-13-2006, 01:28 PM
Congrats to everyone who got it right:

BORO77, coreyschucky, Daniel, Eliza, Filipo, Fumus, George Costanza, giorgos77, GlennMirnyi, loctus, lordmanji, mimi, MrJ, NewlandM, peteroger, radics, RonE, selyoink, sylacauga, tae04, tangerine_dream, TeamID, tennisfancroatia, user_name, wynncj

Except tangy cause she changed her vote afterwards. :lol: