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How Far Would Sampras Go Now At Wimbledon?

lordmanji
11-09-2006, 11:51 PM
if he practiced and prepared from now up til Wimbledon, how far would he get assuming he meets federer in the final?

World Beater
11-09-2006, 11:55 PM
not far at all...the guy lost to corretja and bastl on GRASS...that should be enough. forget about playing nadal who is 5 times better than alex.

missbungle
11-10-2006, 12:12 AM
If Jonas Bjorkman can make the semis, why not Pete?

Johnny Groove
11-10-2006, 12:14 AM
If his draw consists of Bogdanevic, Kendrick, Agassi, Labadze, Nieminen, and Baghdatis, I dont see why not :rolleyes:

DDrago2
11-10-2006, 12:22 AM
Blaze-2004, missbungle - you are so damn right. Nadal in finals and Bjorkman in semi-finals of Wimbledon - just so false

Roger The Great
11-10-2006, 12:25 AM
If his draw consists of Bogdanevic, Kendrick, Agassi, Labadze, Nieminen, and Baghdatis, I dont see why not :rolleyes:

Serve and volleyers need to be quite quick and nimble. At 35, Pete would be neither of those. That being said, if he could pick a draw to go up against, this would probably be it (No shot at Nadal intended, btw). I still would give him a 50/50 chance of even getting out of the first round.

Roger The Great
11-10-2006, 12:26 AM
Blaze-2004, missbungle - you are so damn right. Nadal in finals and Bjorkman in semi-finals of Wimbledon - just so false

Pretty sure Blaze was being sarcastic.

World Beater
11-10-2006, 12:29 AM
jonas is in much better shape than pete was.

it could happen given the right draw.

Jlee
11-10-2006, 12:31 AM
You mean a current Pete Sampras or the in-his-prime Pete Sampras?

In his prime: semis/final/win
Now? Maybe 3rd round

Johnny Groove
11-10-2006, 12:38 AM
Pretty sure Blaze was being sarcastic.

I was hoping the huge rafatadism of myself along with the :rolleyes: smiley would be enough to deduce my sarcasm :)

Roger The Great
11-10-2006, 01:11 AM
I was hoping the huge rafatadism of myself along with the :rolleyes: smiley would be enough to deduce my sarcasm :)

Blatant sarcasm seems easy for many to miss around here. :)

disturb3d
11-10-2006, 01:14 AM
He might be able to crack the top 10 in Seniors' Tour.

Jimnik
11-10-2006, 01:20 AM
This year, if he was in Rafa's quarter, he would have made the final.

DDrago2
11-10-2006, 01:27 AM
I was hoping the huge rafatadism of myself along with the :rolleyes: smiley would be enough to deduce my sarcasm :)

Don't pretend it was sarcasm, you know it was for real

You posted it to prevent someone else to post it for real

Lee
11-10-2006, 02:05 AM
:lol: Less than 20 posts before this thread turns to Nadal thread.

PamV
11-10-2006, 03:20 AM
If his draw consists of Bogdanevic, Kendrick, Agassi, Labadze, Nieminen, and Baghdatis, I dont see why not :rolleyes:

That's true, the draw would make a big difference. I watched Pete beating Roddick recently in their charity tennis event in Irvine, CA. It was a servathon and Pete won both sets. Of course that was just exhibition but both guys wanted to win. Pete's serve was still great but he wasn't running that well side to side. He needs to serve and volley almost every point.


That was hard court. From what everyone says the grass at Wimby no longer plays fast like it used to in Pete's day.

guga2120
11-10-2006, 04:34 AM
This year, if he was in Rafa's quarter, he would have made the final.


if he came back he would be a wildcard, and if he played Rafa,now, he would lose in 3 sets. It would all depend on the draw.

jazar
11-10-2006, 06:49 AM
if he practised hard and played some warm out tournies, he could easily, depending on his draw, get to at least the quarter finals. i agree with the other people who said if he had nadal's draw he would have done well, cos looking back on it, he did have a pretty easy time, especially compared to some of federer's matches, several of which were potential banana skins.

BlueSwan
11-10-2006, 07:31 AM
If he practised hard just for this event and they sped up the surface/balls so it plays as fast as in the 90's, then he could go very far. Potentially even get to the final (although he's get trounced by Federer). Remember, Sampras was virtually impossible to break on superfast surfaces. Even though he's not young anymore, there's no reason to believe that his serve wouldn't be about as good as it was, even if his movement isn't.

lordmanji
11-10-2006, 07:40 AM
If he practised hard just for this event and they sped up the surface/balls so it plays as fast as in the 90's, then he could go very far. Potentially even get to the final (although he's get trounced by Federer). Remember, Sampras was virtually impossible to break on superfast surfaces. Even though he's not young anymore, there's no reason to believe that his serve wouldn't be about as good as it was, even if his movement isn't.

he did come close to beating ginepri at an exhibition in houston earlier this year and also i hear he beat roddick (who had just made it to the uso finals) two sets a bit after that. he'll also be getting more match play thanks to wtt. look at hingis' comeback. while younger, her game is more taxing since she cant win cheap points on serve than sampras. so if she could do it, sampras prob could for maybe one more year and still be in top fifteen in my opinion.

disturb3d
11-10-2006, 10:15 AM
After seeing this thread, it's more obvious than ever how clueless the average MTF visiter is.

Dancing Hero
11-10-2006, 11:49 AM
Not very far imo, I voted third round. Players who wouldn't have been fit to lace his boots in his prime would beat Pete now.

wimbledonfan
11-10-2006, 01:10 PM
WorldBeater is such a Pete hater .

How can you say Pete wouldn't go far if Jonas Bjorkman can make it to the semis .

Pete mentioned in an interview recently that if he trianed for next years wimbledon , he thinks he'd be able to make a good run and that he would have beaten Nadal on that surface .

markiiii
11-10-2006, 01:26 PM
You mean a current Pete Sampras or the in-his-prime Pete Sampras?

In his prime: semis/final/win
Now? Maybe 3rd round

are you crazy???
3rd round..pistol pete...legend of game...7 time wimbledon champ...lost in 3rd round..
if he play bad he can lose besouse someone will get chock...
semis or final or title

mr_burns
11-10-2006, 01:32 PM
Sampras would be perform like Becker in 99 , against a Top 3ß player he will see no daylight, don't care if it's ferrer or whoever

TennisOz
11-10-2006, 02:26 PM
If Jonas Bjorkman can make the semis, why not Pete?

One of the best (few) volleyers in the game, why does this surprise you that Bjorkman made the semis? A player with a decent serve and volley and a good draw can do well at Wimbers, just as someone who is not very good on grass or hardcourt can do well at RG. 'Horses for courses' and Wimbledon is Bjorkman's best track. I would bet on Bjorkman beating Sampras (now, no matter how much he trains).

TennisOz :)

lordmanji
11-10-2006, 03:36 PM
One of the best (few) volleyers in the game, why does this surprise you that Bjorkman made the semis? A player with a decent serve and volley and a good draw can do well at Wimbers, just as someone who is not very good on grass or hardcourt can do well at RG. 'Horses for courses' and Wimbledon is Bjorkman's best track. I would bet on Bjorkman beating Sampras (now, no matter how much he trains).

TennisOz :)

lol delusional, my friend. bjorkman making it to the semi's was an anamoly. he has no weapons other than his experience and consistency and made it far on a fast surface that rewards guys with big weapons. he went out in the semi like he shouldve gone out in the second round. if you look at his run, you'd see that he fought tooth and nail for every round against largely other no name players. all the more credit to him that he could win against higher ranked players albeit none ranked higher than 13.

then look after wimbledon who he loses to first round: henman at canada, waske, spadea at the uso, almalgro at paris, grosjean at madrid. his current rank of 50 will plummet soon as it should.

stebs
11-10-2006, 03:39 PM
1st round with a bad draw. 2nd round with a good draw. 3rd round with a great draw.

ExpectedWinner
11-10-2006, 03:44 PM
are you crazy???
3rd round..pistol pete...legend of game...7 time wimbledon champ...lost in 3rd round..
if he play bad he can lose besouse someone will get chock...
semis or final or title

:haha:

mtw
11-13-2006, 12:28 PM
First round.

TennisOz
11-13-2006, 01:07 PM
lol delusional, my friend. bjorkman making it to the semi's was an anamoly. he has no weapons other than his experience and consistency and made it far on a fast surface that rewards guys with big weapons. he went out in the semi like he shouldve gone out in the second round. if you look at his run, you'd see that he fought tooth and nail for every round against largely other no name players. all the more credit to him that he could win against higher ranked players albeit none ranked higher than 13.

then look after wimbledon who he loses to first round: henman at canada, waske, spadea at the uso, almalgro at paris, grosjean at madrid. his current rank of 50 will plummet soon as it should.

As I said, horses for courses. Bjorkman did well on his best surface. To suggest he has no weapons is patently absurd, you would probably suggest his #1 ranking in doubles and GS's in doubles are purely down to his choice of partner?

Just in case you don't remember, a lot of people have, it was called Lawn Tennis and 3 of the GS's used to be on that surface, so don't begrudge one tournament on the surface and say he might only be good on a fast surface. If memory serves me correctly Bjorkman made it to #4 in the world at singles which you can't do without weapons or only one surface. He was also well into his thirties when he made the semi's, no matter how kind the draw or how tough his matches were, he got there, a commendable achievement.

TennisOz:)

Macbrother
11-13-2006, 01:32 PM
Bjorkman also no doubt has far less true wear and tear on his body than Sampras, who played top of the line tennis for over 10 years. As has been said, to succeed at serve and volley you need excellent movement to begin with, Sampras does not have that. As for his serve, how many times was he broken by Bastl Round 2, 2002? This is all not to mention Wimbledon overall (balls, courts) is playing slower than when he played, and people are returning much better. Sampras in his prime would certainly be a force to be reckoned with, I don't see him getting past round 3 now, at best.

oz_boz
11-13-2006, 02:16 PM
Taking into account today's slower courts, better returners and Sampras age it's hard to see him beyond R3.

Eden
11-13-2006, 03:22 PM
Why should such a legend like Pete compete in Wimbledon again? He had the fairy tale ending to his career and better enjoys this exit of a champion instead of trying to give a short lasting comeback :)

canbera
11-13-2006, 03:35 PM
jonas is in much better shape than pete was.


Very good point there. Jonas keeps himself fit by playing both singles and doubles. As limited as he is considering his movement around the court, he's doing some great work at the net, and that helped him reach the Semi's of Wimbledon. and he totally deserved reaching that.