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Fortune Telling Thread - some questions about 2008

Nathaliia
11-05-2006, 01:19 PM
Ah, I haven't started a thread in General Messages for few months ( *indimidated* ). But let's try.

1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

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My brill answers:

1. AO - Safin, RG - Del Potro, Wimby - Wayne Arthurs, USO - PimPim

2. Gulbis, Gabashvili, Cilic, Canas, Clemens (and I hope Santi Giraldo as well!)

3. Schuettler :tape: and Portas :shrug:

4. Not quite sure but maybe Gulbis :)

5. Flavio "The Magic Clown" Saretta at Wimbledon :worship:

scarecrows
11-05-2006, 01:24 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Federer, Berdych :eek:

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Bolelli

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Arthurs, Sanguinetti

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

del Potro

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

Volandri QF at RG :rocker2:

Andre♥
11-05-2006, 01:46 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Federer (AO/Wimbledon/USO) and a surprise player (RG)

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Sam Querrey, Marin Cilic, Mihail Zverev and Robert Kendrick

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Lleyton Hewitt, Carlos Moya, Juan Carlos Ferrero

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

Nicolas Almagro

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam?

Jan Hajek in Roland Garros/Frank Dancevic in Wimbledon

Five
11-05-2006, 01:48 PM
Davydenko will win a slam in 2007 ;)

JMG
11-05-2006, 01:58 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?
Federer, Nadal, Federer, Federer :retard:
Wroclaw: Vik

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
Kubot, Bogdanovic :spit:

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
Björkman :angel:

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
Young

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)
Bolelli (RG)
Petzschner (Wimbledon)

Nathaliia
11-05-2006, 02:01 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Wroclaw: Vik

I know, the question is will he beat Tabara, Dlouhy, Ulihrach or I. Minar in the final :(!

Horatio Caine
11-05-2006, 03:07 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007? - Federer x 4

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player? - Querrey (consistent 70-90s)

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year? - Rusedski

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007? - Del Potro

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year) - Pless maybe? :shrug:

Difficult questions Nathi! :lol:

revolution
11-05-2006, 03:10 PM
1. Roger, well hopefully he'll win RG but I'd like the other three to go to different players :p

2 Querrey, Cilic, Gulbis, Bogdanovic

3 Rusedski

4 Gulbis

5 Montcourt at RG :p

Johnny Groove
11-05-2006, 03:11 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

AO: Nadal, FO: Nadal, Wimbly: Federer, USO: Nadal :rocker2:

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Donald Young :devil:

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Henman, Rusedki, Sanguinetti

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

Sam Querrey

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam?

Monfils at Wimbly :rocker2:

Nathaliia
11-05-2006, 03:24 PM
Difficult questions Nathi! :lol:

I wanted to add

6. Who will win Casachallenger and who will win Bercy Slammification?

Voo de Mar
11-05-2006, 03:28 PM
1. AO - Blake, RG - Davydenko, WIM - Federer, UO - Nalbandian

2. Q-bot (I hope :)), Hartfield

3. Pavel, Philippoussis

Xristos
11-05-2006, 03:31 PM
4. Christopher Spiropoulos.

Fed-Express
11-05-2006, 03:45 PM
That's not so much fortune telling based on hints or facts but more wishful thinking ;)

revolution
11-05-2006, 03:55 PM
4. Christopher Spiropoulos.

not Stoikoudis?

Fergie
11-05-2006, 04:05 PM
1. Federer

2. Cilic

3. ---

4. Del Potro

5. ---

*Ljubica*
11-05-2006, 04:07 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007? - Federer for RG and Wimby, possibly Davydenko winning AO and Roddick winning his 2nd US Open.

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player? - Guillermo Cañas

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year? - Rusedski, Henman and Moya

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007? - Cilic

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year) - well he's not mediocre but I think del Potro could do surprisingly well at Wimbledon 2007 :)

Nathaliia
11-05-2006, 04:31 PM
Rosie's answers about Slams might be true, actually :eek:

As about bandwagon and JMDP to take 2007 award, well I think he isn't without chances for 2006 already and before this year's beginning there was a thread "Jump on Del Potro's bandwagon before it's not too late" :p

*Ljubica*
11-05-2006, 04:44 PM
Rosie's answers about Slams might be true, actually :eek:

As about bandwagon and JMDP to take 2007 award, well I think he isn't without chances for 2006 already and before this year's beginning there was a thread "Jump on Del Potro's bandwagon before it's not too late" :p

That's why I didn't put him in my answers - he will be far beyond BandWagon status by 2007! Btw Nathii - did you know they are planning to take him to Moscow for the DC? Not as part of the Team but as a sparring/practice partner and to give him the experience - proves how highly he is thought of already )

Nathaliia
11-05-2006, 04:49 PM
That's why I didn't put him in my answers - he will be far beyond BandWagon status by 2007! Btw Nathii - did you know they are planning to take him to Moscow for the DC? Not as part of the Team but as a sparring/practice partner and to give him the experience - proves how highly he is thought of already )

Thanks for the news :D It will be fine for him to feel the spirit and something tells me he will play in DC next year.

*Ljubica*
11-05-2006, 04:50 PM
Thanks for the news :D It will be fine for him to feel the spirit and something tells me he will play in DC next year.

Something tells me you are right ;)

Deivid23
11-05-2006, 11:35 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

AO: Nadal, RG: Nadal W: Federer US: Federer

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Korolev, Cañas, Gabashvili, Bolelli, Zverev, Cilic, J.Johansson maybe Gulbis also

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Pavel, Arthurs, Carlsen and maybe Coria

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

Herr Korolev

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

LaLo in Wimbledon maybe

ExcaliburII
11-06-2006, 12:16 AM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Nalby and Federer (two each of them)

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Cañas, Roitman, Korolev, Coria, Giraldo and J.Johansson

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
Arthurs, Bjorkman and Portas

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
Korolev

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

Sergio Roitman

aussie_fan
11-06-2006, 03:54 AM
1. AO- Nadal, RG- Federer, Wimbledon- Federer, USO- Roddick

2. Chris Guccione, Sam Querrey

3. Wayne Arthurs

4. Del Porto

5. Chris Guccione at Wimbledon

Xristos
11-06-2006, 04:33 AM
not Stoikoudis?

At the moment its Stoikoudis, thats changing soon.

R.Federer
11-06-2006, 04:46 AM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Federer, Nadal and Roddick (I think Roddick will get one next year, probably U.S.O).

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
del-P, maybe (I mean, he has just entered top 100 and will likely stay inside it)

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
Younes if he hasn't already

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)
Dima, maybe USO

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
Same person as answer to [5]

bad gambler
11-06-2006, 11:02 AM
1. Federer-Federer-Federer-Federer
2. JJ
3. Wayno
4. Philippoussis
5. Safin

deliveryman
11-06-2006, 11:38 AM
1. AO- Nadal, RG- Federer, Wimbledon- Federer, USO- Roddick

2. Chris Guccione, Sam Querrey

3. Wayne Arthurs

4. Del Porto

5. Chris Guccione at Wimbledon

I also think this.

bokehlicious
11-06-2006, 11:53 AM
1. Federer

2. Cilic

3. ---

4. Del Potro

5. ---


Ditto :cool: :wavey:

Kinetix
11-06-2006, 12:10 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

AO: Federer, RG: Nadal, W: Federer, US: Federer

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Cañas, J.Johansson, Gulbis, Korolev, Novak and Hartfield

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Arthurs, Rusedski

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

Gulbis

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

I hope Leo Mayer in Wimbly :)

shotgun
11-06-2006, 12:55 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?
Federer.

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
Canas, J. Johansson, Querrey, Cilic, Gulbis, Dolgopolov Jr.

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
Arthurs, Rusedski, Henman, Bjorkman.

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
Korolev.

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)
Jan Hernych in Wimbledon.

Nathaliia
11-06-2006, 04:11 PM
1. Federer-Federer-Federer-Federer
2. JJ
3. Wayno
4. Philippoussis
5. Safin

I want to live till the day Philippoussis wins bandwagon award :)

federerfan7465
12-16-2006, 03:02 AM
OK everybody- predictions for the coming year of tennis

Each Grand Slam

Various masters Series

Top Ten

Storylines, Comebacks, Retirements, etc.


for me:

AO- Fed
RG- Fed
W- Fed
US- Maybe Blake, but hopefully Roger.

I doubt Roger will defend his Indian Wells and Miami back to back MS shields, but I expect both he and Nadal to win 3 or so.

Nadal will I think fall to number 4 or 5 by Year's end, and I think Gasquet will have some major breakthrough someitme next year.

idolwatcher1
12-16-2006, 04:12 AM
I've always been curious why people want to predict a year in sports :scratch: even if just for fun... Some will end up "predicting" what they want to see happen, others may do just the opposite (to perhaps prepare themselves for "the worst") or some will just predict things that they've already seen happen in previous years! :)

How many people predicted ToJo would get hit in the eye with a tennis ball during practice, forcing him to take months off?...that Kiefer would make his first semis at a slam, only to be injured later and hardly play the rest of the year? I don't remember anyone here predicting that Baghdatis would make the finals of the AO before it started... Most people listed the usual suspects (including Safin and Nadal...both of whom never ended up playing there). And who predicted that Nadal would make the Wimby finals months before it happened? Stand up for your bragging rights! :lol: :p

Jlee
12-16-2006, 04:17 AM
Just for fun...:)...

AO: Roddick or Safin
RG: Federer
W: Federer
USO: Federer

Top Ten at the end of the year:
1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Nadal
4. Blake
5. Gasquet
6. Murray
7. Berdych
8. Baghdatis
9. Nalbandian
10. Safin

yana
12-16-2006, 09:09 AM
Just for fun...:)...

AO: Roddick or Safin
RG: Federer
W: Federer
USO: Federer

Top Ten at the end of the year:
1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Nadal
4. Blake
5. Gasquet
6. Murray
7. Berdych
8. Baghdatis
9. Nalbandian
10. Safin

Federer wining all GS (your first prediction has slim chances) won't be fun, it will be boring...:zzz:

deliveryman
12-16-2006, 09:29 AM
Australian Open: Federer
Roland Garros: Federer (Nadal will lose before the finals)
Wimbledon: Roddick
US Open: Nadal

Top 10:
1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Roddick
4. Blake
5. Nalbandian
6. Davydenko
7. Baghdatis
8. Safin
9. Ljubicic
10. Gasquet

Just outside the top 10: Murray, Berdych, Haas, Hewitt

Deathless Mortal
12-16-2006, 09:32 AM
AO: Berdych
RG: Nadal :sad:
W: Federer
USO: Ljubicic or Ancic :D

1.Federer
2.Nadal
3.Ljubicic
4.Roddick
5.Ancic
6.Kolya
7.Berdych
8.Baghdatis
9.Djokovic
10.Safin

NeverSayDie
12-16-2006, 10:19 AM
AO: Gasquet!!!!!!!!
RG: Nadal :banana:
W: Federer
USO: Federer

1.Federer
2.Nadal
3.Safin
4.Roddick
5.Ancic
6.Gasquet
7.Berdych
8.Ljubicic
9.Nalbandian
10.Murray :D

This is more of wish list for me though :lol:

jayjay
12-16-2006, 10:22 AM
AO - Nalbandian
FO - An Argentine, I hope
Wimbledon - Federer, who else?
US Open - Roitman

More importantly, I want to see Bye finally live up to the hype this year.

Burrow
12-16-2006, 10:24 AM
australia- Federer
french - federer
wimbledon- federer
us - federer

1.Federer
2.Nadal
3.Berdych
4.Blake
5.Ljubicic
6.Roddick
7.Baghdatis
8.Youzhny
9.Gonzalez
10.Davydenko

Burrow
12-16-2006, 10:25 AM
AO - Nalbandian
FO - An Argentine, I hope
Wimbledon - Federer, who else?
US Open - Roitman

More importantly, I want to see Bye finally live up to the hype this year.

bye? wtf

Deathless Mortal
12-16-2006, 10:37 AM
Yeah, but Bye is not playing GSs, so forget it.
Safinator, you didn't see Bye? He's playing Miami, Indian Wells, and some 48, 56 draw tournaments. Unfortunately, they won't let him play 2nd rounds, so he loses in 1st round every time... :sad:

KaxMisha
12-16-2006, 10:42 AM
Yeah, but Bye is not playing GSs, so forget it.
Safinator, you didn't see Bye? He's playing Miami, Indian Wells, and some 48, 56 draw tournaments. Unfortunately, they won't let him play 2nd rounds, so he loses in 1st round every time... :sad:

Not true. He did pretty well in Paris, remember? :devil:

Hola Mr. SK
12-16-2006, 10:46 AM
AO: Nalby
RG: Fed
W: Rafa
US: Berdych
TMC: ARod
:)

KaxMisha
12-16-2006, 10:49 AM
AO: Nalby
RG: Fed
W: Rafa
US: Berdych
TMC: ARod
:)

The probability of this is less than 1 PPM.

deekaye
12-16-2006, 10:57 AM
Just for fun...:)...

AO: Roddick or Safin
RG: Federer
W: Federer
USO: Federer

Top Ten at the end of the year:
1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Nadal
4. Blake
5. Gasquet
6. Murray
7. Berdych
8. Baghdatis
9. Nalbandian
10. Safin

"Jlee"

What? No Lubicic in top 10 disqualifies you straightaway as a forecaster.

Deekaye

richie21
12-16-2006, 11:15 AM
AO: Federer
RG: Nadal
W: Federer
USO: Gasquet(let's be crazy!)

Top Ten at the end of the year:
1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Roddick
4. Davydenko
5. Gasquet
6. Nalbandian
7. Berdych
8. Baghdatis
9. Murray
10. Safin

jazar
12-16-2006, 11:33 AM
AO Fed
FO Fed
Wimbledon Fed
USO Fed

federer will defend all his TMS titles, and will win one of the clay court ones. davydenko will win 2 and nadal 1 on the clay, probably monte carlo.
joachim johannson back in the top 10, robredo out of the top 10.
greg rusedski to retire after a bitterly disappointing defeat to the netherlands in the davis cup

Hola Mr. SK
12-16-2006, 11:39 AM
The probability of this is less than 1 PPM.
right,how about Fed winnin' all the slams :zzz:
:secret: These guys I listed will be next year's runner-up in that tourney.

KaxMisha
12-16-2006, 12:19 PM
Here are your picks:
AO: Nalby
RG: Fed
W: Rafa
US: Berdych
TMC: ARod
:)

Here's what you said:
right,how about Fed winnin' all the slams :zzz:
:secret: These guys I listed will be next year's runner-up in that tourney.

Let's review:
Odds on Nalbandian winning the Australian Open: 29.00 (link (http://www.coral.co.uk/sbuk.go?page=supergrouppage&sportid=11&supergroup=c+Australian+Open+2007))
Odds on Nadal winning Wimbledon: 9.00 (link (http://www.coral.co.uk/sbuk.go?page=grouppage&groupid=121049&lang=20&sid=20&ms=MS&type=0))
Combined odds of these two events: 29.00*9.00=261
I couldn't find outright odds on the US Open and Roland Garros, but this will do.
Odds on Federer winning the Grand Slam: 4.50 (link (https://www.bwin.com/betsnew.aspx?SportID=5) - click on "Specials")
So... Odds on Federer winning the Grand Slam are 261/2.5=58 times lower than your picks for just TWO of the four slams. Hence, people who think Federer will win the Grand Slam are far more rational than you are. :wavey: Comparing what you said to that is a joke.

P.S. Note that I haven't said I think Federer will win the Grand Slam...

Blue Heart24
12-16-2006, 12:50 PM
AO: Ljubicic :D
RG: Fed
W:Fed
USO: Ljubicic :D

1.Federer
2.Ljubicic
3.Blake
4.Davydenko
5.Robredo
6.Roddick
7.Nalbandian
8.GOnzalez
9.Berdych
10.Karlovic :D

*Ljubica*
12-16-2006, 01:46 PM
AO: Safin
French: Federer
Wimbledon: Federer
US: Roddick

More wishful thinking but I'd love to see some new Masters' Series champions. About time Ljubicic won one I think, and Ferrer and Blake.

Top Ten

Federer
Roddick
Nadal
Ljubicic
Davydenko
Blake
Safin
Berdych
Robredo
Tursunov :)

Retirements: Rusedski, Henman

Black Adam
12-16-2006, 01:50 PM
Ljubicic isn't Grand Slam material and Fed isn't even gonna make FO final next year.

qw19
12-16-2006, 01:57 PM
AO: RAFA
RG: RAFA
W: RAFA
US: RAFA

top 10:

1. Rafa baby
2. Fed
3. Mario Ančić
4. dick
5. Ivan Ljubičić
6. Blake
7. Davidenko
8. Nalbandian
9. Baghdatis
10. Safin

krakenzero
12-16-2006, 02:09 PM
AO: Federer
RG: Nadal
W: Federer
USO: Xristos will show up at the end of the year... if not, Bagho (or Super Mario)

1) Federer
2) Nadal
3) Davydenko
4) Baghdatis
5) Berdych
6) Nalbandian
7) Ancic
8) Roddick
9) Gonzalez
10) Djokovic

yana
12-16-2006, 02:55 PM
AO: Federer :(
RG: Nadal
W: Nadal
USO: Roddick

1) Federer
2) Nadal
3) Roddick
4) Nalbandian
5) Davydenko
6) Baghdatis
7) Ancic
8) Blake
9) Lopez:o
10) Verdasco :o

Jlee
12-16-2006, 04:08 PM
"Jlee"

What? No Lubicic in top 10 disqualifies you straightaway as a forecaster.

Deekaye

Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that we were rating the predictions of others. Thanks for that. :wavey:

I happen to think that there's a chance that the younger generation will surge to the top, knocking out someone I would consider to be older and declining. But nobody can predict sports.

Federer wining all GS (your first prediction has slim chances) won't be fun, it will be boring...:zzz:

Federer winning the GS would not be boring, it would be fun. :)

And I honestly believe that Roddick has a decent shot at a slam next year. Possibly the AO or the USO. Shoot me. :)

yana
12-16-2006, 06:04 PM
Federer winning the GS would not be boring, it would be fun. :)

Why? :confused:

BlakeorHenman
12-16-2006, 06:11 PM
I'll try for the Slams...

AO - Roddick
RG - Federer
WIM - Federer
USO - Safin

And by the way, don't expect Henman to retire for another couple of years at least, barring another injury to his back.

He has stated countless times that he thinks he still has a few years left in him before he will retire.

Jlee
12-16-2006, 06:25 PM
Why? :confused:

Well, I happen to enjoy watching Federer play. I feel like he can win Roland Garros next year. If he doesn't win the Slam at some point in his career it would be kind of sick because he's good enough to do it. I'm hoping that Roddick can pick it up and steal one from him, but we'll see. Having Roger win them all would be entertainment for me. Just because it wouldn't be for you doesn't mean you have to be all over my selections or preferences :p Why do you care so much? It's not like I'm predicting something stupid and impossible :lol:

yana
12-16-2006, 06:50 PM
Well, I happen to enjoy watching Federer play. I feel like he can win Roland Garros next year. If he doesn't win the Slam at some point in his career it would be kind of sick because he's good enough to do it. I'm hoping that Roddick can pick it up and steal one from him, but we'll see. Having Roger win them all would be entertainment for me. Just because it wouldn't be for you doesn't mean you have to be all over my selections or preferences :p Why do you care so much? It's not like I'm predicting something stupid and impossible :lol:


I'm only curious why someone would enjoy Fed's dominance, that's all. I'm sick and tired of him wining all and he's not even fun to watch. I don't care about your preferences I only wanted to know what do you found so funny about him wining all GS? :rolleyes:

KaxMisha
12-16-2006, 08:11 PM
I'm only curious why someone would enjoy Fed's dominance, that's all. I'm sick and tired of him wining all and he's not even fun to watch. I don't care about your preferences I only wanted to know what do you found so funny about him wining all GS? :rolleyes:

How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?

BlakeorHenman
12-16-2006, 08:28 PM
How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?

Some people are attracted to the excitement of being surprised by a winner. Others like to see a variety of GS winners because they like to see more than one or two big stories in a tennis season. Some people are bored by Federer because they think he has the personality of a cardboard box. Need any other examples?

Jlee
12-17-2006, 03:22 AM
I'm only curious why someone would enjoy Fed's dominance, that's all. I'm sick and tired of him wining all and he's not even fun to watch. I don't care about your preferences I only wanted to know what do you found so funny about him wining all GS? :rolleyes:

Well I would point out that I didn't even have him winning all the GS originally. And I guess it's just personal preference, but Roger's game is amazing. I understand the desire to have someone go up against him and beat him, which is why I chose someone besides him to win the AO (and possibly the USO). But my predictions are fairly realistic, and would have been even more so if I'd predicted him to win the Australian. :shrug: I thought we were predicting, not saying what we wanted to have happen :scratch:

How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?

I would say it's less of enjoying his dominance than enjoying his game. Even true Federer fans, a group I'm a part of, should desire to see him be forced to produce his best tennis by someone. Though he would still likely dominate, it would make things less predictable.

Some people are attracted to the excitement of being surprised by a winner. Others like to see a variety of GS winners because they like to see more than one or two big stories in a tennis season. Some people are bored by Federer because they think he has the personality of a cardboard box. Need any other examples?

And some people enjoy watching someone with an insane amount of talent play the sport. I see your point too, I just think that having him win 2 or more slams could be interesting depending on the matches leading up to those wins.

BlakeorHenman
12-17-2006, 04:38 AM
How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?

This is the quote to which I was responding.

I stand by my post - certainly I can see why Fed's dominance could be entertaining, but certainly YOU could see how it would be boring (even though his game is impeccable).

Jlee
12-17-2006, 05:07 AM
This is the quote to which I was responding.

I stand by my post - certainly I can see why Fed's dominance could be entertaining, but certainly YOU could see how it would be boring (even though his game is impeccable).

Right. So we agree then I suppose ;) :lol:

Sorry if I misunderstood...

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 06:14 AM
Some people are attracted to the excitement of being surprised by a winner. Others like to see a variety of GS winners because they like to see more than one or two big stories in a tennis season. Some people are bored by Federer because they think he has the personality of a cardboard box. Need any other examples?

I didn't need any examples to begin with. What I said was that if (a big "if", it seems) someone is interested in watching good tennis (and not in being surprised, in which case they can play the lottery), I cannot see how they can be bored by Federer.

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 06:17 AM
I would say it's less of enjoying his dominance than enjoying his game. Even true Federer fans, a group I'm a part of, should desire to see him be forced to produce his best tennis by someone. Though he would still likely dominate, it would make things less predictable.

This I agree with. What I meant is that if we are to see the level of Federer's tennis, we have to accept the dominance, because it is highly unlikely someone else will play at the same level any time soon, so if one wants to do away with the dominance, one is prepaired to lower the quality of the tennis we get to watch.

BlakeorHenman
12-17-2006, 06:23 AM
I didn't need any examples to begin with. What I said was that if (a big "if", it seems) someone is interested in watching good tennis (and not in being surprised, in which case they can play the lottery), I cannot see how they can be bored by Federer.

Oh... I see what happened. My apologies to Jlee. I made a dumb mistake of thinking you were Kaxmisha. I didn't look at who made the post for some reason. Sorry.

In actuality, KaxMisha was the guy being judgemental about someone who watches tennis for the personal stories of the players.

So you think I'm less of a tennis fan for not being satisfied by only Fed's dominance? Simply because he has a great game that is fun to watch is not enough to fully invest me in the sport. That doesn't make me less intelligent or less of a fan of tennis than you. That's clearly judgemental.

I like my great tennis players to have at least a little personality. That's all.

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 06:30 AM
:) Oh... I see what happened. My apologies to Jlee. I made a dumb mistake of thinking you were Kaxmisha. I didn't look at who made the post for some reason. Sorry.

In actuality, KaxMisha was the guy being judgemental about someone who watches tennis for the personal stories of the players.

So you think I'm less of a tennis fan for not being satisfied by only Fed's dominance? Simply because he has a great game that is fun to watch is not enough to fully invest me in the sport. That doesn't make me less intelligent or less of a fan of tennis than you. That's clearly judgemental.

I like my great tennis players to have at least a little personality. That's all.

It is judgemental - I never denied it! :) I still stand 100 % behind it, though. If the tennis is not all one cares about, clearly, one is not as much of a tennis fan. That's simple deductive logics.

BlakeorHenman
12-17-2006, 06:50 AM
ok... whatever. You win, dude.

yana
12-17-2006, 10:23 AM
How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?



Well, I asure you that I like tennis and I watch all the players, not only my favourite ones, but the only matches that I can find interesting are Federer's. For exemple, the Shanghai final. What do you find interesting in wining 6-0, 6-3, 6-4 against an adversar that did not exist in the match? This is not good tennis, a match without any tension.

yana
12-17-2006, 10:25 AM
How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?



Well, I asure you that I like tennis and I watch all the players, not only my favourite ones, but the only matches that I can't find interesting are Federer's. For exemple, the Shanghai final. What do you find interesting in wining 6-0, 6-3, 6-4 against an adversar that did not exist in the match? This is not good tennis, a match without any tension.

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 12:08 PM
Well, I asure you that I like tennis and I watch all the players, not only my favourite ones, but the only matches that I can't find interesting are Federer's. For exemple, the Shanghai final. What do you find interesting in wining 6-0, 6-3, 6-4 against an adversar that did not exist in the match? This is not good tennis, a match without any tension.

Tension? Play Russian Roulette if you want tension! I cannot understand how people can say they didn't enjoy the match you brought up and yet call themselves fans of tennis! Did you see the shots Federer hit? Did you see how well he played? Did you bother to look at the tennis at all, or was the lack of tension the only thing on your mind?

Castafiore
12-17-2006, 12:46 PM
^ Can't you come up with better examples than the lottery and Russian Roulette? Those are games where "luck" plays a major role.

The element of surprise and tension in a sport is about much more than "luck".

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 12:49 PM
^ Can't you come up with better examples than the lottery and Russian Roulette? Those are games where "luck" plays a major role.

The element of surprise and tension in a sport is about much more than "luck".

Easy. Watch poker. Satisfied?

Kalliopeia
12-17-2006, 03:31 PM
Tension? Play Russian Roulette if you want tension! I cannot understand how people can say they didn't enjoy the match you brought up and yet call themselves fans of tennis! Did you see the shots Federer hit? Did you see how well he played? Did you bother to look at the tennis at all, or was the lack of tension the only thing on your mind?

It was very pretty, yes. But not very interesting. Tennis is a sport, before anything else. And sport without competition is dull.

Hiromiku
12-17-2006, 03:39 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?
Grosjean, Henman, Murray and Olivier Rochus.

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
Me.

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
Greg Rusedski.

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
Andy Murray

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam?
Xavier Malisse in Wimbledon.

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 05:40 PM
It was very pretty, yes. But not very interesting. Tennis is a sport, before anything else. And sport without competition is dull.

What can I say? I'm a purist. I wouldn't mind watching a triple bagel match if the points were good.

shruti
12-17-2006, 06:08 PM
It was very pretty, yes. But not very interesting. Tennis is a sport, before anything else. And sport without competition is dull.

Thank You.

Slams:

AO:Safin
RG,W:Federer
USO:Roddick

Top 10:
Federer
Nadal
Roddick
Davydenko
Ljubicic
Blake
Nalbandian
Gonzalez
Berdych
Baghdatis

Maya_4
12-17-2006, 06:33 PM
AO:SAFIN
RG:NADAL
W:FEDERER OR NADAL
USO:RODDICK

1.Federer:rolleyes:

2.Nadal:clap2:

3.Roddick
4.Ljubicic

5.Djokovic:bounce: :yippee: :rocker2:

6.Baghdatis:D

7.Davydenko
8.Murray
9Gasquet:)

10.Safin:clap2: :rocker2:

Sunset of Age
12-17-2006, 08:38 PM
I like my great tennis players to have at least a little personality. That's all.

And what is it that defines 'having a personality' to you? Or do you actually mean 'showmanship'? That's something entirely different.

And remember the way a person comes across in public appearances -orchestrated by PR and marketing managers - can be very different than the way that person actually IS.

JCF
12-17-2006, 10:36 PM
How can someone who likes to watch GOOD TENNIS and who is interested in that and not in fanboyism NOT enjoy Federer's dominance?

That is such a short-sighted view. I watch tennis because its a sport, and sport is supposed to be about competition. Not right now, which is why its kinda dull. I've been watching tennis for years, and have never been more bored than I am now, with both mens and womens tennis.

KaxMisha
12-17-2006, 10:44 PM
That is such a short-sighted view. I watch tennis because its a sport, and sport is supposed to be about competition. Not right now, which is why its kinda dull. I've been watching tennis for years, and have never been more bored than I am now, with both mens and womens tennis.

"Short-sighted"? Ellaborate, please! (Or better yet - admit you are just BS-ing and wrote that just to write something - might save us both some time ;)).

oz_boz
12-18-2006, 09:34 AM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Roddick, Nadal, Federer, Berdych

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Canas and Pim Pim should be able to get back.

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Björkman, Arthurs

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

Berdych, beating Nadal once and winning the USO will do

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

Robredo will make the SF of RG and get crushed by Nadal

BlakeorHenman
12-19-2006, 03:03 AM
...said "BlakeorHenman." :scratch:

Players I like should have never come into this thread at all and I'm sorry for even antagonizing that douche KaxMisha in the first place.

My bad, and please return to on-topic threads so all these dumb arguments will just be over.

Fedex
12-20-2006, 12:42 AM
AO: Safin
French: Federer
Wimbledon: Federer
US: Roddick

More wishful thinking but I'd love to see some new Masters' Series champions. About time Ljubicic won one I think, and Ferrer and Blake.

Top Ten

Roddick winning the USO? :eek: God, I should hope not. I have no problems with the other 3 predictions, however. :yeah:

KaxMisha
12-20-2006, 06:40 AM
Players I like should have never come into this thread at all and I'm sorry for even antagonizing that douche KaxMisha in the first place.

My bad, and please return to on-topic threads so all these dumb arguments will just be over.

Oh, I see what you're doing here. After losing an argument, you move on to personal attacks for no reason whatsoever. Good for you! How clever! :worship:

BlakeorHenman
04-05-2007, 12:53 AM
Oh, I see what you're doing here. After losing an argument, you move on to personal attacks for no reason whatsoever. Good for you! How clever! :worship:

just saw this after a few weeks.

Yeah, I engaged in a personal attack because I don't like you, n ot because I lost the argument.

shotgun
04-05-2007, 02:39 AM
just saw this after a few weeks.


:lol: You mean after four months and a half. ;)

Fed-Express
04-05-2007, 02:48 AM
Well, this fella seems to be gone, good riddance.

Burrow
04-05-2007, 11:37 AM
Not true. He did pretty well in Paris, remember? :devil:

what are you on about stevie wonder??

The_Nadal_effect
04-05-2007, 02:53 PM
RG=Rafzilla
WIM=Fedex
USO=I dont know

Player into top 100: From the little I know outside of top thirty, I'd say ...Robert Kendrick...Sanguinetti...

BlakeorHenman
04-05-2007, 07:46 PM
:lol: You mean after four months and a half. ;)

ok so i guess it was a little longer than i thought.

Adler
11-25-2007, 02:02 PM
* BUMP *

Let's play the same thing once more, this time for 2008, but without the 1st question (as a similar thread has already been started):

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (QF minimum)

Let me get us started:
2. Isner, Malisse, Ginepri maybe
3. Moya, Santoro
4. Gulbis
5. Tipsarevic

guille&tati4life
11-25-2007, 04:23 PM
* BUMP *

Let's play the same thing once more, this time for 2008, but without the 1st question (as a similar thread has already been started):

2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (QF minimum)

Let me get us started:
2. Isner, Malisse, Ginepri maybe
3. Moya, Santoro
4. Gulbis
5. Tipsarevic

2) Lapentti, Navarro, Hrbaty
3) Gaudio, Gimestob, Pavel, Sanguinetti
4) Andreev
5) Dancevic

If I can incorporate a new number 6...
6) Who outside of top 200 will become a consistent top 200 player?

6) Haider-Maurer, Evans, Fischer, Dolgopolov

Adler
11-25-2007, 06:48 PM
If I can incorporate a new number 6...
6) Who outside of top 200 will become a consistent top 200 player?

6) Haider-Maurer, Evans, Fischer, Dolgopolov
Good idea, unforetunately not many people here (including me) don't have big knowledge about what's going on there

Nathaliia
12-17-2007, 12:26 PM
Paul would never waste a chance to promote his cutie Haider-Maurer :lol:

I also suppose that Dancevic can make a QF somewhere. The USO most likely.

bokehlicious
12-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Again LOL at the Rafatards whining about the lack of "tension" in some of Fed's matches... Surpisingly I never hear them bitch about beatdowns that Rafa spread on dirt! :angel: :D

Lee
12-17-2007, 04:46 PM
2) Lapentti, Navarro, Hrbaty
3) Gaudio, Gimestob, Pavel, Sanguinetti
4) Andreev
5) Dancevic

If I can incorporate a new number 6...
6) Who outside of top 200 will become a consistent top 200 player?

6) Haider-Maurer, Evans, Fischer, Dolgopolov

I guess you mean Gimelstob here. Isn't he retired at the end of 2007 already?

drf716
12-18-2007, 07:11 AM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?
AO= Safin
FO= Korolev
Wimbledon= Tursunov
USO= Safin
2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?
Korolev
3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?
Federer
4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?
Federer
5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)
Mamiit

jaybee
12-18-2007, 08:07 AM
Again LOL at the Rafatards whining about the lack of "tension" in some of Fed's matches... Surpisingly I never hear them bitch about beatdowns that Rafa spread on dirt! :angel: :D

Tell me, do you hate that Rafa dominated the clay season in 07 or that Roger didn't win RG?

Eden
12-20-2007, 01:39 PM
Tell me, do you hate that Rafa dominated the clay season in 07 or that Roger didn't win RG?

He was just refering to the double standards that are used on MTF :) For some people Rafa's dominance on clay is exciting whilst they are bored when Roger wins on other surfaces. Besides this I doubt that JM really cares whether Roger will win RG as he doesn't like that tournament at all ;)

blueskye
12-21-2007, 11:07 AM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?

Federer x 3 and Djokovic x 1


2. Who outside of top 100 will become a consistent top 100 player?

Ivo Minar

3. Who will retire from tour during/after the next year?

Rusedski and Philopposus (spelling??)

4. Who will win the Bandwagon Award in 2007?

Tsonga

5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

Gasquet!

Rogiman
12-21-2007, 09:01 PM
1. Who will win the slams in 2007?
AO= Safin
FO= Korolev
Wimbledon= Tursunov
USO= Safin
:haha:

Safin will retire midway through this year.

scarecrows
12-21-2007, 09:32 PM
5. Which player considered as mediocre will make his deep run in a slam? (maybe something like Vassallo Arguello at RG this year)

Gasquet!

:lol: this was coming from a Gasquet fan

Johnny Groove
12-22-2007, 02:16 PM
Again LOL at the Rafatards whining about the lack of "tension" in some of Fed's matches... Surpisingly I never hear them bitch about beatdowns that Rafa spread on dirt! :angel: :D

Its due to the fact that Nadal dominating also means that Federer is NOT dominating. Just a change in who is winning is enough to make it exciting. Also watching DivaRoger come out for 3 months a year is always fun as he struggles to win on clay