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Back in Shanghai. David: It's time to defend your title !!

Julio1974
11-04-2006, 05:39 PM
The field is complete now: Federer, Nadal, Davydenko, Ljubicic, Roddick, Robredo, Nalbandian and Blake.

What do you think we can expect from him? Considering how he has been playing lately, I think SF would be great. I don't expect more than that.

Viken01
11-04-2006, 06:22 PM
well, last year he shouldn't have played 'cause he was not qualified, didn't trained at all and eventually won the master.

So what can we expect from DAVID ? i don't really now, it depends on the draw i guess, it would be nice to see a david-nadal match, we've been waiting for this one for a long time ;)

If he falls in a draw with ljubo and fed i don't know, but if he plays nadal, blake, this kind of player, then i guess he has his chance of making it to the final.

Mili
11-05-2006, 11:11 AM
Well...I think with David...we always have to be prepared to be surprised! But we wish him all the best! Good luck!!!

joyk
11-05-2006, 04:55 PM
I`m expecting anything from David,from not winning a single match to winning the title.

chabela
11-06-2006, 04:12 PM
If all the clasificated play, David will have to play Fedex,Davydenko and Roddick. I think he can def Davy and Andy. It's true Davydenko is very sure after he won Paris, but we have to remember that Davy didn't play with any difficult player (Mario and Robredo perhaps, but I'm not sure).

I think David will play semis.

:wavey:

Mili
11-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Yeah I also hope David will play the semis! But Roddick and Davydenko are not ti "underestimate"...

Sakura 0101
11-06-2006, 11:37 PM
I want to see David beating Roddick !! :D

mtw
11-07-2006, 12:08 PM
Good luck for David in Shanghai.

krystlel
11-08-2006, 12:23 PM
Well the draw has come out. Unfortunately no match against Nadal. :sad:

I was really disappointed since the draw didn't resemble the draw I wanted at all, but now I'm ok with it. I would have preferred a group with Nadal, Davydenko and Roddick, as those were the matches I would have liked to watch.

Red group: Federer, Ljubicic, Roddick, Nalbandian
Gold group: Nadal, Davydenko, Robredo, Blake

It's almost the same as last year's group except it has Roddick instead of Coria. Tough group obviously. I didn't want to see Ljubicic in the same group after beating David twice this year. I'm looking forward to the match against Roddick though. They haven't played since 2003.

I really have no idea who will be getting through to the SFs in the red group apart from Federer.

Again, David will be up against Federer first on Sunday like last year. I was really hoping he would play on Monday since TV coverage here will be delayed 8 hours whereas it will be delayed 3 hours on other days.

gooner88
11-08-2006, 12:52 PM
Well Nalbo has been in tough groups everytime he's played the Masters, so no surprise there. Just looking forward to some great tennis. :)

Julio1974
11-08-2006, 12:54 PM
Well the draw has come out. Unfortunately no match against Nadal. :sad:

I was really disappointed since the draw didn't resemble the draw I wanted at all, but now I'm ok with it. I would have preferred a group with Nadal, Davydenko and Roddick, as those were the matches I wanted to see.

Red group: Federer, Ljubicic, Roddick, Nalbandian
Gold group: Nadal, Davydenko, Robredo, Blake

It's almost the same as last year's group except it has Roddick instead of Coria. Tough group obviously. I didn't want to see Ljubicic in the same group after beating David twice this year. I'm looking forward to the match against Roddick though. They haven't played since 2003.

I really have no idea who will be getting through to the SFs in the red group apart from Federer.

Again, David will be up against Federer first on Sunday like last year. I was really hoping he would play on Monday since TV coverage here will be delayed 8 hours whereas it will be delayed 3 hours on other days.


The draw is not good at all. David will suffer with Roddick and Ljubicic's services. But if he manages to go through, he won't be facing Federer in the SF which is good.

chabela
11-08-2006, 02:38 PM
the first match will be Federer-DAVID. :(

DAVID left for Shangai yesterday. He looked so optimist. I wish he wasn't so relaxed.

:wavey:

novanora
11-08-2006, 03:39 PM
haven't seen him yet here, but Federer, Roddick and Ljubo all arrived yet, Federer and Ljubo even have started the training.

Viken01
11-08-2006, 05:08 PM
tough draw :( vamos david !! good luck against fed !!!

Eugenia
11-08-2006, 06:33 PM
:bounce: :clap2: VAMOS DAVID!!! :clap2: :bounce:

justClaudia
11-08-2006, 09:52 PM
haven't seen him yet here, but Federer, Roddick and Ljubo all arrived yet, Federer and Ljubo even have started the training.

Hi Crys! have fun at the masters girl. :hug:


It's not going to be easy for David, though draw. But then again i think he prefers that way, he likes a big challenge. I don't have my expectations to high this time, i'm very happy he is there, and all i want is too see some good matches. the rest, if it comes, it's a plus. Good luck, David, give your best.

chabela
11-09-2006, 03:07 PM
DAVID has arrived to Shangai today in the morning. He began to train.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=857192


DALE DAVID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:

:wavey:

joyk
11-10-2006, 10:29 AM
the first match will be Federer-DAVID.
I hope that will also be the last match.Vamos David!

Hola Mr. SK
11-11-2006, 12:42 PM
Hi Crys! have fun at the masters girl. :hug:


It's not going to be easy for David, though draw. But then again i think he prefers that way, he likes a big challenge. I don't have my expectations to high this time, i'm very happy he is there, and all i want is too see some good matches. the rest, if it comes, it's a plus. Good luck, David, give your best.

Challenges all around...
-H2H: 6-7 Federer,1-3 Roddick, 2-3 Ljubicic... David is a big dog in group RED.:eek:
-He's the defending champ. :eek:
-The surface has changed, so David no longer gets the great advantage. :eek:
ummm...I'd rather preffer to have the games on clay :devil:
-David is not in good shape as of late. :eek:

and yes, he likes to challenge. Hope he will be intrigued and at least grab a win. Maybe a win is enough for him to get through to semis? I just don't see Andy or Ljubo pull off 2 wins :eek:

At the same time...I think I should be prepared to accept triple painful losses. :rain: :yawn: just don't get injured:)

Vamos Dave :shout::clap2:

Johnny Groove
11-11-2006, 02:42 PM
-The surface has changed, so David no longer gets the great advantage. :eek:
ummm...I'd rather preffer to have the games on clay :devil:

i know a couple players that would second that notion :devil:

justClaudia
11-11-2006, 04:29 PM
Challenges all around...
-H2H: 6-7 Federer,1-3 Roddick, 2-3 Ljubicic... David is a big dog in group RED.:eek:
-He's the defending champ. :eek:
-The surface has changed, so David no longer gets the great advantage. :eek:
ummm...I'd rather preffer to have the games on clay :devil:
-David is not in good shape as of late. :eek:

and yes, he likes to challenge. Hope he will be intrigued and at least grab a win. Maybe a win is enough for him to get through to semis? I just don't see Andy or Ljubo pull off 2 wins :eek:

At the same time...I think I should be prepared to accept triple painful losses. :rain: :yawn: just don't get injured:)

Vamos Dave :shout::clap2:


He has to be ready for anything. as you said his shape hasn't been the best lately, but then again he had time to prepare this masters and to be fit, so....i'm hoping for a win at least. And no injuries, please!

marti_228
11-11-2006, 07:07 PM
Challenges all around...
-H2H: 6-7 Federer,1-3 Roddick, 2-3 Ljubicic... David is a big dog in group RED.:eek:
-He's the defending champ. :eek:
-The surface has changed, so David no longer gets the great advantage. :eek:
ummm...I'd rather preffer to have the games on clay :devil:
-David is not in good shape as of late. :eek:

and yes, he likes to challenge. Hope he will be intrigued and at least grab a win. Maybe a win is enough for him to get through to semis? I just don't see Andy or Ljubo pull off 2 wins :eek:

At the same time...I think I should be prepared to accept triple painful losses. :rain: :yawn: just don't get injured:)

Vamos Dave :shout::clap2:

how optimistic you are!:rolleyes:

Vamos David!

gooner88
11-12-2006, 06:55 AM
Fed bt Nalbo 3-6 6-1 6-1

If he plays like he did in the first set he can definitely make the semi's.
If he plays like he did in the final 2 sets again its back to the rally cars.

Schu
11-12-2006, 07:37 AM
Fed bt Nalbo 3-6 6-1 6-1

If he plays like he did in the first set he can definitely make the semi's.
If he plays like he did in the final 2 sets again its back to the rally cars.

HOw right you are. It all depends on which David shows up to play or more importantly if the "good" David can last for two sets. What HAPPENED to HIS BRAIN!! He went from almost perfect and controlling the points to stupid drop shots and double faults. Seems to be a pattern here... gets tentative and starts with the dumb shots. DId it look to anyone like a physical problem? I couldn't detect any problem other than another major brain cramp. :banghead: :banghead:

gooner88
11-12-2006, 08:57 AM
HOw right you are. It all depends on which David shows up to play or more importantly if the "good" David can last for two sets. What HAPPENED to HIS BRAIN!! He went from almost perfect and controlling the points to stupid drop shots and double faults. Seems to be a pattern here... gets tentative and starts with the dumb shots. DId it look to anyone like a physical problem? I couldn't detect any problem other than another major brain cramp. :banghead: :banghead:

It looked like just another brain cramp to me. :shrug:
The thing is Fed didin't really play great today and if only Nalbo kept that level of play he'd have probably won.

Kiank
11-12-2006, 09:07 AM
Business as usual. Very much like French Open semis - David melting down mentally when Fed starts to raise his level. Disappointing, but nothing really surprising. Unfortunately, David doesn't belong to the same class as Fed anymore. He's #7 on paper, but his objective level is somewhere between 10-20 right now. Talent keeps him on top, but mentally he's like a high school player.
David needs a serious mental training more than anything else. He is quickly degrading. I don't exclude that he can still make it to the semis - anything is possible - but who cares now if he became so meek against Roger?

tennis2tennis
11-12-2006, 10:43 AM
It looked like just another brain cramp to me. :shrug:
The thing is Fed didin't really play great today and if only Nalbo kept that level of play he'd have probably won.

Federer didn't need to play great he found another gear david didn't! The headlines for this match read roger outfoxeses nalbandian
because roger showed problem solving skills, he changed tactics after the first set making david come near the net. you'd think david would have changed his approach in the third set, but he didn't, a 'brain cramp' gooner is a sign of technical inferiority!

Blue Heart24
11-12-2006, 04:54 PM
Hi to all.I'm coming in peace.I don't want to argue.I'm not a David Nalbandian fan.I just wanted to asko you,Nalby fans,what do you think about Tuesday's match beetwen Nlabandian and Ljubicic.What do you think?Who has a better shot? I think it's absolutely Nalbo.Ljubo is not in shape,i mean he's not fit.And I'm sure David will beat Roddick.That's sure,I think.And what do you realisticly think?Who will pass the gorup?Nalbandian or Ljubicic? Roddick won't :p

:)

krystlel
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
We have no idea who will win in the Nalbandian/Ljubicic match especially considering today's match. :lol:

I definitely think it was a brain cramp. I was surprised that he never got himself back into the match. Gosh, it's really frustrating when he starts hitting those stupid dropshots and ends up being tentative. :rolleyes: I do think, in part, it is to do with the lack of convincing wins he's had recently. Had he had more impressive wins (or even straight set victories), he might have believed more in himself. I don't think Federer changed his tactics much.

Viken01
11-12-2006, 06:37 PM
Hi to all.I'm coming in peace.I don't want to argue.I'm not a David Nalbandian fan.I just wanted to asko you,Nalby fans,what do you think about Tuesday's match beetwen Nlabandian and Ljubicic.What do you think?Who has a better shot? I think it's absolutely Nalbo.Ljubo is not in shape,i mean he's not fit.And I'm sure David will beat Roddick.That's sure,I think.And what do you realisticly think?Who will pass the gorup?Nalbandian or Ljubicic? Roddick won't :p

:)

actually you think ljubo has more chance than roddick to reach the SF ? but both ljubo and david lost today.

If your predictions are true- assuming fed will beat ljubo and roddick- roddick has more chance than david and ljubo to qualify so the deciding match will be roddick-nalbandian, IF nalby win against ljubicic.

It seems ljubo is not in good shape as you said, but david is not really fit too so it's not easy to predict. As a david fan, i hope he will play more like the first set than the last two sets of today's match ;)

VAMOSSSS DAVIIIDDDD !!!

bovenbuuf
11-12-2006, 10:58 PM
well sorry to see he couldn't win his match against Roger. But well do hope he makes it to the next round. But well still he can go and make it.

Nova its so nice to see you here again. enjou tennis over there :)

novanora
11-13-2006, 12:29 AM
well sorry to see he couldn't win his match against Roger. But well do hope he makes it to the next round. But well still he can go and make it.

Nova its so nice to see you here again. enjou tennis over there :)

Thanks bov :hug: well, I have the chance to attend the opening ceremony again and see him in the interview. He is quite happy and confident from my view. When asked how he will copy with the first match against Roger again, he laughed and said:"but this time i will try to win him", seems very relaxed and enjoyed the atmosphere.

I do think he got the full preparation for the opening match against Roger. He played very well with precise baseline and amazing returning at the beginning of the match except his 1st serve, which totally disrupt Roger's match rythm. But from the second set, Roger got the key to attack his second serve, and he played quite a few stupid volleys which from my view were definitely not the good time to approach the net. He is quite in mess when he found his original strategy didn't work well. Anyway, he is not in bad shape, so we still can expect the match against Ljubo on Tuesday considering Ljubo didn't get in quite well today.

Besides, I asked him about his car team in Cordoba about the trouble lately, he said it's ok nothing serious, and won't influence much on TMC & DC final (hope it's true..). His mother and Vicky haven't come this time, but hope he still can move more steps even without the family back supporting.

I took a few pics for the opening ceremony and the later interview, will post them all on the pic thread. And if Sophia told you already, you know i will also go to Moscow to watch DC final. So I will leave to Russia after TMC and spend some time there.

Hug you and Clau :hug:

Blue Heart24
11-13-2006, 06:12 AM
actually you think ljubo has more chance than roddick to reach the SF ? but both ljubo and david lost today.

If your predictions are true- assuming fed will beat ljubo and roddick- roddick has more chance than david and ljubo to qualify so the deciding match will be roddick-nalbandian, IF nalby win against ljubicic.

It seems ljubo is not in good shape as you said, but david is not really fit too so it's not easy to predict. As a david fan, i hope he will play more like the first set than the last two sets of today's match ;)

VAMOSSSS DAVIIIDDDD !!!

I think that Ljubicic or Nalbandian will pass the group.Roddick will lose to Federer and Nalbandian,the all depends on Ljubicic-Nalbandian. Ljubicic has to win in 2 sets.Only chance he's got.And,Nalbandian,he just has to win.Because he'll beat Roddick.

bovenbuuf
11-13-2006, 01:59 PM
Wow Nova a lot has happened. Good to hear everything is ok. For me its all far to busy at the moment. But tomorrow I am done! I can't wait

Thanks for the info about David. Hope he can play well.

chabela
11-13-2006, 02:13 PM
Hello, I watched the match, I don't know what to think about last two sets. I don't know if David thrown the match to save energy when he saw he couldn't win, or if really he play his best to win. Iván is out of form because he was ill, he couldn't practice, I'm optimist about tomorrow match.


David said:

"Me llevo una sensación medio rara, porque no saqué para nada bien, pero de fondo sí jugué muy bien. En eso me voy con una impresión muy buena, pero tengo que trabajar un poco más con el saque para los próximos partidos. Por ahí tuve un mal día y eso le puede pasar a cualquiera. Tal vez en el próximo saque mejor. Tengo todo un día para ajustar eso y pensar en qué hice mal hoy. Todavía estoy en la pelea. No pasó nada. Sé que si juego bien puedo ganar los dos partidos que me faltan".

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=858227

He is worried about his server, but he is happy with his return. He think he has to work with his server.He will see his errors and he will try to improve.
He is optimist, he thinks he can play weel, we will be able to win the next two match.

:wavey:

Viken01
11-13-2006, 05:10 PM
Hello, I watched the match, I don't know what to think about last two sets. I don't know if David thrown the match to save energy when he saw he couldn't win, or if really he play his best to win. Iván is out of form because he was ill, he couldn't practice, I'm optimist about tomorrow match.

You think he tanked the match because he saw he was not going to win easily so he threw the match to save energy ? maybe, but i am also optimistic for tomorrow's match ;)

:wavey: VAMOS DAVID

justClaudia
11-13-2006, 07:25 PM
It looked like just another brain cramp to me. :shrug:
The thing is Fed didin't really play great today and if only Nalbo kept that level of play he'd have probably won.

brain fart, you mean. :lol: Oh david.....what happened there?

justClaudia
11-13-2006, 07:28 PM
Thanks bov :hug: well, I have the chance to attend the opening ceremony again and see him in the interview. He is quite happy and confident from my view. When asked how he will copy with the first match against Roger again, he laughed and said:"but this time i will try to win him", seems very relaxed and enjoyed the atmosphere.

I do think he got the full preparation for the opening match against Roger. He played very well with precise baseline and amazing returning at the beginning of the match except his 1st serve, which totally disrupt Roger's match rythm. But from the second set, Roger got the key to attack his second serve, and he played quite a few stupid volleys which from my view were definitely not the good time to approach the net. He is quite in mess when he found his original strategy didn't work well. Anyway, he is not in bad shape, so we still can expect the match against Ljubo on Tuesday considering Ljubo didn't get in quite well today.

Besides, I asked him about his car team in Cordoba about the trouble lately, he said it's ok nothing serious, and won't influence much on TMC & DC final (hope it's true..). His mother and Vicky haven't come this time, but hope he still can move more steps even without the family back supporting.

I took a few pics for the opening ceremony and the later interview, will post them all on the pic thread. And if Sophia told you already, you know i will also go to Moscow to watch DC final. So I will leave to Russia after TMC and spend some time there.

Hug you and Clau :hug:
Thanks for the report, very nice. :hug: Have a great time there, and in Moscow as well! how exciting is that? I am a bit jealous, i must say. :lol:

Galathea
11-13-2006, 08:44 PM
Hi, Guys. First time poster here. Forgive me for my english. Tarzan speaks better than me :)

I think it's pretty much obvious what happened.
His first serve stopped working. Not maybe in quantity but quality.
He was having problems since the begging, but at least could serve in a way that caused damage to Federer. David controlled the game until the serve stopped working in the way he needed.
At one point, he screamed to his team, in spanish, "No puedo meter 1, bolu...." something like "I can serve one ball" followed by a cursing. And that was at the first set.
After that, everytime he tried to do what he was doing with the second serve, he made a double fault.
It was not a brain freeze or anything. It was nothing like in Vienna.
He found himself with a great base game and a serve, a horrible serve, that a 5 year old could return. And it was against Federer. When he could dominate it and have control of the game with an agressive first serve (or at least second one) he ruled the match. The moment he couldn't do it anymore, Roger took the stand and didn't forgive.
And also, not having serve it affects your confidence and you became frustrated. He tried new things but didn't work at all , because what it worked was what it was based in his serve. After that it's a vicious circle. You lose confidence and starts to make unforced errors trying to make winners.
You could see his torn face when he was going to serve. It was obviously something that took him by surprise...

With another player, that was a victory for David, maybe in 3 sets or 7-5 in the second, because he searched for some variation... With Federer, it doesn't work that way.

Hey, even Frana, who is no exactly a fan of Nalby, said his base game was perfect but his problem was the serve and that makes lose confidence, not only David, but any player... And even a none fan of David, as Frana is, admitted that his frustation and almost desperation with the serve is understandable.
And it's logic... if what it doesn't work is your drive, backhand, smash, etc.. you avoid using it... How do you avoid serve?
And with Federer, can anybody tell me that only putting the ball on court is enough?. Even when Roger's stronger point is not the return like it is with David (hit that worked really good, by the way), you can go against Federer with a "souffle" .. for argentines "tirandole una masita" ;).
You're dead. Period.

Also, with all due respect to the poster talking about RG semifinals: didn't you get the memo about WHEN David got injured???!!! David kicked Roger's butt for the first set and part of the second, until his third game of serve. In THAT moment he felt the pain. The TV can corroborate what I'm saying, he makes the gesture towards his trainer in that moment. He tried to follow more than what he should have...
When he was in the 3rd set he was running and reaching the ball, but with an abdominal injury of that type you can move that zone, so you can hit the ball. It was not one of those David's moment, was clearly an injury. Lession that still is affecting him, because it's chronical.

I do think he got the full preparation for the opening match against Roger. He played very well with precise baseline and amazing returning at the beginning of the match except his 1st serve, which totally disrupt Roger's match rythm. But from the second set, Roger got the key to attack his second serve, and he played quite a few stupid volleys which from my view were definitely not the good time to approach the net. He is quite in mess when he found his original strategy didn't work well. Anyway, he is not in bad shape, so we still can expect the match against Ljubo on Tuesday considering Ljubo didn't get in quite well today.

Totally agree. I think in that first set David showed the difference between a player who can have luck one day and defeat Roger or almost doing it, like in Basel semis with the thailand player; and a player who knows HOW to play against Roger to win. The problem was, in Madrid case, that David couldn't touch the ball because Roger made Aces and winner all the time, and here when his first serve didn't work and his strategy went to hell. He tried things (the volleys :rolleyes: ) that I bet he knew they were not right because he's one of the most intelligent players to know how to defeat your opponent (physicall problems aside, talking about strategy here).

I have hope in him tomorrow.
And while I'm sad about losing the match (and hoping that he won't became obssesed with the serve thing), was the logic one to lose.
Tomorrow he can't lose because he is out. I think we'll see the good David back. He's better when he's under pressure.

Blue Heart24
11-13-2006, 09:20 PM
My own hope is killing me :sad: ,if Nalby beats Ljubo,good luck to him in last match i don't want to see the duck in semis.

chabela
11-13-2006, 09:37 PM
Besides, I asked him about his car team in Cordoba about the trouble lately, he said it's ok nothing serious, and won't influence much on TMC & DC final (hope it's true..). His mother and Vicky haven't come this time, but hope he still can move more steps even without the family back supporting.



Novarona, I read in ESPN that Alda (his mother ) traveled for Shangai with him.

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=500536

"Este torneo es súper importante, aquí estamos los mejores, es un placer y un orgullo participar, y además una semana después voy a la final de la Copa Davis, y me viene bien porque seguiré jugando en 'indoor', cosa que en Argentina no podía hacer", dijo Nalbandian, que ha viajado a China con su madre, quien también le acompañará a Moscú después. "


About Rally's trouble, I think is more important than David said, it's something more complex to explain.

:wavey:

gooner88
11-13-2006, 10:18 PM
Nice to see you here Galathea. :wavey:
Your English is fine and its better than alot of fellow Brits I know. ;)

sophia_c
11-13-2006, 11:07 PM
Hi, Guys. First time poster here. Forgive me for my english. Tarzan speaks better than me :)

I think it's pretty much obvious what happened.
His first serve stopped working. Not maybe in quantity but quality.
He was having problems since the begging, but at least could serve in a way that caused damage to Federer. David controlled the game until the serve stopped working in the way he needed.
At one point, he screamed to his team, in spanish, "No puedo meter 1, bolu...." something like "I can serve one ball" followed by a cursing. And that was at the first set.
After that, everytime he tried to do what he was doing with the second serve, he made a double fault.
It was not a brain freeze or anything. It was nothing like in Vienna.
He found himself with a great base game and a serve, a horrible serve, that a 5 year old could return. And it was against Federer. When he could dominate it and have control of the game with an agressive first serve (or at least second one) he ruled the match. The moment he couldn't do it anymore, Roger took the stand and didn't forgive.
And also, not having serve it affects your confidence and you became frustrated. He tried new things but didn't work at all , because what it worked was what it was based in his serve. After that it's a vicious circle. You lose confidence and starts to make unforced errors trying to make winners.
You could see his torn face when he was going to serve. It was obviously something that took him by surprise...

With another player, that was a victory for David, maybe in 3 sets or 7-5 in the second, because he searched for some variation... With Federer, it doesn't work that way.

Hey, even Frana, who is no exactly a fan of Nalby, said his base game was perfect but his problem was the serve and that makes lose confidence, not only David, but any player... And even a none fan of David, as Frana is, admitted that his frustation and almost desperation with the serve is understandable.
And it's logic... if what it doesn't work is your drive, backhand, smash, etc.. you avoid using it... How do you avoid serve?
And with Federer, can anybody tell me that only putting the ball on court is enough?. Even when Roger's stronger point is not the return like it is with David (hit that worked really good, by the way), you can go against Federer with a "souffle" .. for argentines "tirandole una masita" ;).
You're dead. Period.

Also, with all due respect to the poster talking about RG semifinals: didn't you get the memo about WHEN David got injured???!!! David kicked Roger's butt for the first set and part of the second, until his third game of serve. In THAT moment he felt the pain. The TV can corroborate what I'm saying, he makes the gesture towards his trainer in that moment. He tried to follow more than what he should have...
When he was in the 3rd set he was running and reaching the ball, but with an abdominal injury of that type you can move that zone, so you can hit the ball. It was not one of those David's moment, was clearly an injury. Lession that still is affecting him, because it's chronical.



Totally agree. I think in that first set David showed the difference between a player who can have luck one day and defeat Roger or almost doing it, like in Basel semis with the thailand player; and a player who knows HOW to play against Roger to win. The problem was, in Madrid case, that David couldn't touch the ball because Roger made Aces and winner all the time, and here when his first serve didn't work and his strategy went to hell. He tried things (the volleys :rolleyes: ) that I bet he knew they were not right because he's one of the most intelligent players to know how to defeat your opponent (physicall problems aside, talking about strategy here).

I have hope in him tomorrow.
And while I'm sad about losing the match (and hoping that he won't became obssesed with the serve thing), was the logic one to lose.
Tomorrow he can't lose because he is out. I think we'll see the good David back. He's better when he's under pressure.


I agree with Gooner..your English is better than most!!!...so no worries there!!!!...post more!!!

justClaudia
11-14-2006, 04:02 AM
Welcome Galathea. Your english is fine, no worries. You just have to post more now!

:hug:

sophia_c
11-14-2006, 10:28 AM
Lets see how he can do today against Ljubicic!!!.....

chabela
11-14-2006, 02:45 PM
DAVID WON FIRST SET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7-5 OHHHHHH

:bigclap: :bigclap::bigclap::bigclap:

Jill
11-14-2006, 02:56 PM
And is up a break in the 2nd set !!

chabela
11-14-2006, 03:02 PM
I hope DAVID can hold the level

sophia_c
11-14-2006, 03:06 PM
He is doing well...hope he keeps it up now...Vamos!!!!

chabela
11-14-2006, 03:58 PM
I can't believe!!!, he was serving for the match and lost the second set!!!!:eek: :eek: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

sophia_c
11-14-2006, 04:16 PM
He loves to make life difficult!!!!

chabela
11-14-2006, 04:45 PM
HE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7-5 6-7 5-7

:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

ja_som1
11-14-2006, 04:45 PM
One think is sure. David will not defend his title. He won't have chance to do it, because he will finish on the last place in his group. Today's match was good and he had the chance to win it. I am sad, very sad. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Blue Heart24
11-14-2006, 04:50 PM
David :worship: :worship:,I admire him that he didnt give up in third!He fighted till the end but Ljubo was better!Hope he can beat Roddick.

gooner88
11-14-2006, 05:05 PM
I wasn't able to watch the match but it sounds like a heartbreaking loss.
Little chance of making the semis now. Very disappointing.

chabela
11-14-2006, 05:07 PM
One think is sure. David will not defend his title. He won't have chance to do it, because he will finish on the last place in his group. Today's match was good and he had the chance to win it. I am sad, very sad. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Somebody said that if David def Andy in two set and Roger def Ljubo in 2 sets too, David can clasificate . It's very hard, I think :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

:wavey:

ja_som1
11-14-2006, 05:12 PM
Somebody said that if David def Andy in two set and Roger def Ljubo in 2 sets too, David can clasificate . It's very hard, I think :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

:wavey:

I think that David is down after these lost matches (we know ous man) and he cannot def Andy. Andy plays very good and Roger lost one set in both his matches so I think he is not on his top now.
So the end of David's season is very very close. :sad: :sad: :sad:

chabela
11-14-2006, 05:18 PM
I think that David is down after these lost matches (we know ous man) and he cannot def Andy. Andy plays very good and Roger lost one set in both his matches so I think he is not on his top now.
So the end of David's season is very very close. :sad: :sad: :sad:

NOOOOOOO, He has to play DAVIS CUP FINAL!!!!!!!!. We need him!!!!!

:wavey:

sophia_c
11-14-2006, 05:19 PM
I wasn't able to watch the match but it sounds like a heartbreaking loss.
Little chance of making the semis now. Very disappointing.


Gooner..he had bad luck at the wrong times..like in the final game after the first point..he broke a string...it summed it all up!!!.....

sophia_c
11-14-2006, 05:22 PM
NOOOOOOO, He has to play DAVIS CUP FINAL!!!!!!!!. We need him!!!!!

:wavey:


He better move his ass for the final..my friend is travelling from BS AS for that.....he cannot be disappointed!!!!

paschan
11-14-2006, 05:43 PM
it was disappointing, but its not over yet. If Federer beats Ljubicic (which he probably does) and David wins in straight sets he will advance. He also advances if he wins in three sets and Federer wins in straights.

Lets hope just a little bit...:)

gooner88
11-14-2006, 05:53 PM
Gooner..he had bad luck at the wrong times..like in the final game after the first point..he broke a string...it summed it all up!!!.....

I understand your point but how many times has he lost and we all say it was bad luck. IMO sometimes you make your own luck. As I said I haven't watched the match so I can't make a definitive judgement, but to lose a match when you were serving for it looks bad. Credit to Ljubicic for fighting all the way.

Julio1974
11-14-2006, 06:23 PM
I understand your point but how many times has he lost and we all say it was bad luck. IMO sometimes you make your own luck. As I said I haven't watched the match so I can't make a definitive judgement, but to lose a match when you were serving for it looks bad. Credit to Ljubicic for fighting all the way.

Especially when it's not the first time that this happens. He should have won this match in 2 sets. Anyway, after watching Roddick today, I think David will be out rather sooner than later.

sophia_c
11-14-2006, 08:20 PM
I agree...in fact..in order not to annoy anyone on here..I am sick to death of him losing matches like this....its easy to blame other things....he had bad luck.....but I guess you make your own luck......I wish he would move his butt and begin to play the way we know he can...maybe he should concentrate on tennis for a few years and leave everything elese alone.....or at least concentrate during his playing season.....and he also doesn't look fit...sorry to offend anyone.....

chabela
11-14-2006, 08:52 PM
I agree...in fact..in order not to annoy anyone on here..I am sick to death of him losing matches like this....its easy to blame other things....he had bad luck.....but I guess you make your own luck......I wish he would move his butt and begin to play the way we know he can...maybe he should concentrate on tennis for a few years and leave everything elese alone.....or at least concentrate during his playing season.....and he also doesn't look fit...sorry to offend anyone.....

Sophia, you don't offend me. I love DAVID as he is. I don't want he changes his way of life. I think he is very talented but he needs to do other things. I'd like he played always as he knows and becames 2 (I think he is better than Nadal) , but he is not as regular as he must. I'm not a conformist, I criticize him, but I'm his fan.

:wavey:

Kiank
11-14-2006, 11:16 PM
Sophia, you don't offend me. I love DAVID as he is. I don't want he changes his way of life. I think he is very talented but he needs to do other things. I'd like he played always as he knows and becames 2 (I think he is better than Nadal) , but he is not as regular as he must. I'm not a conformist, I criticize him, but I'm his fan.

:wavey:

Hey good people, being a fun of David doesn't mean you can't criticize him! I really think what David needs to hear now is truth, and not empty admiration and consolation words - especially when he doesn't deserve them...
David, let me tell you, you really suck! As a personality and as a blogger. You waste your great talent. You have to radically change your approach to tennis!
Again, everything is possible, (though highly unlikely) that he will beat Andy in straight sets, and Lubo will lose in straights, etc. etc., but nothing will change from that alone. More likely is Roddick winning the first set, and then David retiring in the second.

krystlel
11-14-2006, 11:17 PM
I'm getting pretty frustrated with these kinds of losses. David made a number of loose errors especially off the forehand and missed a dropshot in the late stages of the 2nd set on his own serve. I think he only had a couple of unforced errors in the 2nd set and only started making errors after he got the break. I don't think that broken string would have made much difference with the way Ljubicic served in the 3rd set anyway. Ljubicic was very inconsistent today and his body language was terrible until when he noticed David was getting tight serving for the match and stopped going for so much on his shots. After he won the 2nd set, Ljubicic's quality of play and movement were so much better. Ljubicic, like in his match against Roddick kept fighting the whole match when he so easily could have conceded that he was not in the best shape to win this match.

I'm reading the Red Group scenarios thread and David can still get 2nd place even if he wins in 3 sets and Federer wins in 2 sets. That's interesting because that pretty much means that the loss against Ljubicic barely had any impact on the standings. If it is true, it seems they use different rules to the WTA where they would have used the sets won/lost ratio if three players are tied on match wins and losses.

sophia_c
11-15-2006, 01:04 AM
Its all true..I am just p***** at him because he lost and he should have won.....and as he is my favourite......I can say all this...but he really needs to think..the Dc final will come soon....he has to have the strenght to play well there...

mtw
11-15-2006, 10:41 AM
But he can win in Davis Cup. Good luck David.

sonatinca
11-15-2006, 10:56 AM
Found David's press conference after loss to Fed.
I say, very strange one :shrug:

TENNIS MASTERS CUP
November 12, 2006
David Nalbandian
SHANGHAI, CHINA

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. What happened out there?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, it start when you play against a guy and you couldn't make a lot of first serves. I couldn't serve good in the beginning. Without that I couldn't fight. I was playing okay.
But then in the second set and the third, I fall down a little bit. Without the help in the first serve, it's quite tough.

Q. David, when you got him into the rally, did you feel that you were often dominating the exchanges?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, yeah. I feel so, yeah.
But when he made the first serve, I didn't return a lot of serves. When he served the second one, I take the chance of almost all the points, and that's make me feel good. But then he start serving better, and he start playing better as well.

Q. Did you feel that fourth game in the second set when you almost broke back was absolutely crucial?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, I think so, when I was at that breakpoint and I miss easy return, I think that was very important point.

Q. What is it that you think makes him the player that he is? Is it just his game or his attitude? I mean, what makes him as brilliant as he seems to be?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, everything. Everything. The attitude. He have all the shots. I mean, he can make any shots from anywhere. So almost everything.

Q. Did you have a good feeling coming back on to the court here?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I feel it's strange. It's strange because I served very bad. Then from the baseline I played very good in the beginning, no? So it's a little bit strange.

Q. It's a whole...
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Of course.

Q. This now sets you up like last year. You lost the first match.
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, I'm still in the fight. Nothing happen yet, so I have to win the next two ones. I know if I play good, I can beat them, so I have to work a little bit tomorrow.

Q. As you know, in Chinese we call Federer as the eagle's eagle. You are the first one to have this eagle in this Masters Cup.
DAVID NALBANDIAN: I lose, so that's most important thing. I don't mind other things.

Q. We give a nickname to Federer. We call him an eagle. You are the first one to be glad to be beaten by him. How do you feel?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: I already answer. I don't mind that things. I mean, it's just part of the game.

Q. You slipped three times in the first set and the beginning of the second set. So what happened?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: I don't know. I slip a few times. Looks like the court sometimes dirty, so maybe it's that.

Q. Yesterday we heard you talking about your strategy at the opening ceremony. You planned to serve the ball to his backhand area. Were you satisfied with the result of your strategy today?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: I say exactly the opposite yesterday. The strategy was exactly the opposite. I mean, try to hit more in the backhand, not in the forehand.

Q. That's the question. You tried to serve the ball to the backhand area. What's your comment on the result of your strategy today?
DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, today that doesn't work very good. I mean, you can see in the results.

chabela
11-15-2006, 02:13 PM
Found David's press conference after loss to Fed.
I say, very strange one :shrug:

TENNIS MASTERS CUP
November 12, 2006
David Nalbandian
SHANGHAI, CHINA



. Where did you find?, I looked for the transcrips in the oficial page, but didn't find it. Could you give me the address please?

thank you

:wavey:

Blue Heart24
11-15-2006, 09:25 PM
Cmon David!Win tommorow! Even if Ljubo doesn't make it,i would rather see you than Roddick in semis!

Galathea
11-15-2006, 10:10 PM
I think any chance of David in SF are out now.
Well, you know about his 9 years old cousing and godson dying today in a horrible accident (crushed by an elevator). :sad:
David seems to be shocked and according to the press is recluded in his hotel, in not a very good state.
And to make it worst, being so far he couldn't make it to the funeral even if he wanted to.
There were some speculations about David not even playing tomorrow. Either way, he's destroyed.
And this dead happens almost at the same date that his fathers two years death (december 2004). At that time he said he could barely sleep or play.

Sad to see this ending this way.
Not even mentioning the tragedy itself.

RogiFan88
11-15-2006, 10:14 PM
. Where did you find?, I looked for the transcrips in the oficial page, but didn't find it. Could you give me the address please?

thank you

:wavey:

Here it is:

2006 TENNIS MASTERS CUP
SHANGHAI, CHINA
November 12, 2006
R. FEDERER/D. Nalbandian
3-6, 6-1, 6-1

DAVID NALBANDIAN

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. What happened out there?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, it start when you play against a guy and you couldn't make a lot of first serves. I couldn't serve good in the beginning. Without that I couldn't fight. I was playing okay.

But then in the second set and the third, I fall down a little bit. Without the help in the first serve, it's quite tough.

Q. David, when you got him into the rally, did you feel that you were often dominating the exchanges?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, yeah. I feel so, yeah.

But when he made the first serve, I didn't return a lot of serves. When he served the second one, I take the chance of almost all the points, and that's make me feel good. But then he start serving better, and he start playing better as well.

Q. Did you feel that fourth game in the second set when you almost broke back was absolutely crucial?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, I think so, when I was at that breakpoint and I miss easy return, I think that was very important point.

Q. What is it that you think makes him the player that he is? Is it just his game or his attitude? I mean, what makes him as brilliant as he seems to be?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, everything. Everything. The attitude. He have all the shots. I mean, he can make any shots from anywhere. So almost everything.

Q. Did you have a good feeling coming back on to the court here?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I feel it's strange. It's strange because I served very bad. Then from the baseline I played very good in the beginning, no? So it's a little bit strange.

Q. It's a whole...

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Of course.

Q. This now sets you up like last year. You lost the first match.

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, I'm still in the fight. Nothing happen yet, so I have to win the next two ones. I know if I play good, I can beat them, so I have to work a little bit tomorrow.

Q. As you know, in Chinese we call Federer as the eagle's eagle. You are the first one to have this eagle in this Masters Cup.

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I lose, so that's most important thing. I don't mind other things.

Q. We give a nickname to Federer. We call him an eagle. You are the first one to be glad to be beaten by him. How do you feel?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I already answer. I don't mind that things. I mean, it's just part of the game.

Q. You slipped three times in the first set and the beginning of the second set. So what happened?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I don't know. I slip a few times. Looks like the court sometimes dirty, so maybe it's that.

Q. Yesterday we heard you talking about your strategy at the opening ceremony. You planned to serve the ball to his backhand area. Were you satisfied with the result of your strategy today?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I say exactly the opposite yesterday. The strategy was exactly the opposite. I mean, try to hit more in the backhand, not in the forehand.

Q. That's the question. You tried to serve the ball to the backhand area. What's your comment on the result of your strategy today?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, today that doesn't work very good. I mean, you can see in the results.

End of FastScripts

I think David should do what he feels is right; if that means not playing, that's good, to show he's in mourning. :sad:

gooner88
11-15-2006, 11:13 PM
Well I'm not expecting anything from Nalbo tomorrow. Whether he plays or not, I'll respect whatever decision he makes.

chabela
11-15-2006, 11:32 PM
Here it is:

2006 TENNIS MASTERS CUP

I think David should do what he feels is right; if that means not playing, that's good, to show he's in mourning. :sad:


Thank you RogiFan, I wanted the address, but I found it. I don's sure DAVID will play tomorrow. Fortunately he is with his mother , brother and girlfriend, he is not alone.
------------------------------------------------------------
David's press conference after loss to Ljubo

2006 TENNIS MASTERS CUP
SHANGHAI, CHINA


November 14, 2006

I. LJUBICIC/D. Nalbandian
5-7, 7-6, 7-5


DAVID NALBANDIAN


THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.


Q. So sorry you lost today. Your next match will be against Andy Roddick. The only way to step forward to the semis is to win. Do you have confidence in your chances the day after tomorrow?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, I think so. I will try my best to win and to qualify, of course.


Q. We had four Argentinian players last year here in Shanghai. This year we only have you. Obviously, you had another great year in 2006. Do you think it's a down year for Argentina tennis?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I think so, yes. We're in the Davis Cup final, so that's great for us.


Q. (Through translation.) I want to know what posed the most difficulty to you besides the three aces he had. What was the most challenging problem you had from this match besides his three aces?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: No, I think was only the serve. I mean, after, when was playing rallies, most of the point, I win it. So his big weapon was the serve today.



Q. You seemed to be in control for the most part of the first two sets. What went wrong in that moment for you in your game?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I do few mistakes in 5-4 second set, and I missed two easy shots from the deuce. And then the breakpoint I miss a forehand.

And then on the tiebreak I was down all the time, and save the -- the first set point that I save was very good point. Made a passing shot.

And then I do easy mistakes with his second serve and I couldn't make it. I couldn't close the match.


Q. Your last meeting with Andy was in 2003 including a loss in the semifinals in US Open. So do you think if you got chance to win the match in U.S. not wasting so much more matchpoints, so you would have a better success in your career?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I beat him after that semifinal, so I believe that I still have a chance to win it.


Q. In the opening ceremony interview you said the draw here is almost the same as last year, but last year you went into the final and won the final. Now you are in a very dangerous position in your group. So if the draw is the same, what is different?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Last year I win, and this year I lose.


Q. Someone said you catch the trophy last year because you are a tough man. Do you think this year's players are stronger than last year?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, in the Masters all the time are tough matches. I mean, doesn't matter the ranking. If the No. 6 didn't come, would come No. 8, No. 9, so is not big difference. Always when you play these kind of tournaments, you have a lot of tough matches in the group. So is difficult.

------------------------------------------------------------------

DALE DAVID, NO AFLOJÉS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wavey:

novanora
11-16-2006, 12:06 AM
It's so shocked to see the tragedy news :sad: I just met him after the training yesterday (maybe today for some of you), he is very very sad and down, almost near to cry (i thought he cried because of his red and swelling eyes). It's very mourning expression on his face that I never saw before. Of course I didn't know this news at that moment, I just thought maybe he was very disappointed with yesterday and felt a lot pressure for today's match.

To Chabela, :wavey: yes, his mother, Vicky both have come. I didn't see them in the first match against Roger, so I thought they didn't come this time. But they appeared in the 2nd match against Ljubo. I think Alda and Vicky also didn't know the tragedy until today, because they looked quite relaxed during that match.

ok, guys. I will cheer SUPER LOUDLY today for him no matter he will win it or lose. Any one can suggest any espanol cheering words that we can roar today?

gooner88
11-16-2006, 12:32 AM
It's so shocked to see the tragedy news :sad: I just met him after the training yesterday (maybe today for some of you), he is very very sad and down, almost near to cry (i thought he cried because of his red and swelling eyes). It's very mourning expression on his face that I never saw before. Of course I didn't know this news at that moment, I just thought maybe he was very disappointed with yesterday and felt a lot pressure for today's match.

To Chabela, :wavey: yes, his mother, Vicky both have come. I didn't see them in the first match against Roger, so I thought they didn't come this time. But they appeared in the 2nd match against Ljubo. I think Alda and Vicky also didn't know the tragedy until today, because they looked quite relaxed during that match.

ok, guys. I will cheer SUPER LOUDLY today for him no matter he will win it or lose. Any one can suggest any espanol cheering words that we can roar today?

How about VAMOS! :p
Seriously thanks for the news Crys. Good to see you here again. :)

novanora
11-16-2006, 01:01 AM
How about VAMOS! :p
Seriously thanks for the news Crys. Good to see you here again. :)
me too gooner ;) it's always nice to see some old friends here :p

so far, I didn't get any news here that he will withdraw the last match or not, but I will not be surprised if he does this decision. I think if anything happen, it will be announced this morning, but as I will go to the court very soon, so it will be faster for you guys to get the final news before I tell u.

well, i usually cheer "VAMOS DAVID", but I think it's a little monotonous, so would like to ask for more interesting suggestion. :p

gooner88
11-16-2006, 01:17 AM
me too gooner ;) it's always nice to see some old friends here :p

so far, I didn't get any news here that he will withdraw the last match or not, but I will not be surprised if he does this decision. I think if anything happen, it will be announced this morning, but as I will go to the court very soon, so it will be faster for you guys to get the final news before I tell u.

well, i usually cheer "VAMOS DAVID", but I think it's a little monotonous, so would like to ask for more interesting suggestion. :p

:lol: I'm the wrong person to ask since I chose to study French, not Spanish at school. ;)
Enjoy the tennis. BTW the stadium there is fantastic; just a shame its hardly ever full judging from what I've seen on TV.

Galathea
11-16-2006, 02:57 AM
A good thing for say or write, and that left not doubt about what the fans are talking about is

ESTAMOS CON VOS, DAVID!

Because a "Fuerza, David" "Vamos, David" is not that clear and could be interpreted like simple cheering (specially the second one). I think "Estamos con vos" (We're with you, David) is short and clear about what the fans are talking about.
Plus, you'll be using an argentinian way of speaking. We change the Tú spanish for Vos. It shows you really care.

It's so shocked to see the tragedy news I just met him after the training yesterday (maybe today for some of you), he is very very sad and down, almost near to cry (i thought he cried because of his red and swelling eyes). It's very mourning expression on his face that I never saw before. Of course I didn't know this news at that moment, I just thought maybe he was very disappointed with yesterday and felt a lot pressure for today's match.

According to the ATP people he knew it after or during that trainning... The boy died after the match. (argentina is -12 hours give or take with Shangai). Here' the accident was in the afternoon of the Nov, 14. We knew the kid so close to David this morning (always speaking in Argentine time..)

sonatinca
11-16-2006, 09:30 AM
Thank you RogiFan, I wanted the address, but I found it. I don's sure DAVID will play tomorrow. Fortunately he is with his mother , brother and girlfriend, he is not alone.
:wavey:
Oh, i'm late. But i'm glad you've found it ;)

sonatinca
11-16-2006, 09:39 AM
Galathea thanx for advise, i'll use it on Davis Cup

gooner88
11-16-2006, 12:59 PM
He won 6-2 7-6. :)
Fantastic win for him under the circumstances. As usual he lost serve when he served for the match at 5-4, but it was his day today.

Julio1974
11-16-2006, 12:59 PM
He won in 2 sets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe it !!!!!!

sonatinca
11-16-2006, 01:22 PM
I admire his courage!
This win is not only good for this tournament, but it also helps him to reach his goal - to play good at Davis Cup. I wish him to stay at least for semi here, it will be good practice before Moscow.

sophia_c
11-16-2006, 02:28 PM
He did well although Roddick was very flat and served really bad. However it was good to see him play well..he used the court very well and his net play was impressive....he looked relieved at the end...and now we just have to wait for Roger to win...then its a semi against Blake!!!....

jayjay
11-16-2006, 02:32 PM
Excellent performance from El Rey. :worship: And that's not even taking into account the circumstances surrounding the match. He showed he is a very strong willed young man, and his detractors can choke on this for today.

He is going to the final at the very least. :)

sonatinca
11-16-2006, 02:38 PM
Ljubo lost in two sets, so tell me, does it mean David is in semies?

gooner88
11-16-2006, 02:40 PM
Ljubo lost in two sets, so tell me, does it mean David is in semies?

Yes he's in the semis. :)

gooner88
11-16-2006, 02:42 PM
Excellent performance from El Rey. :worship: And that's not even taking into account the circumstances surrounding the match. He showed he is a very strong willed young man, and his detractors can choke on this for today.

He is going to the final at the very least. :)

Including Sky TV. :rolleyes:
They hardly gave any credit for his win and even think that Ljubicic should be in the semis instead of Nalbo.

Blue Heart24
11-16-2006, 02:44 PM
Including Sky TV. :rolleyes:
They hardly gave any credit for his win and even think that Ljubicic should be in the semis instead of Nalbo.

Dave is so damn lucky.He didn't deserve to be in semis.As you said,Ivan did.But anyway congrats to him.

sonatinca
11-16-2006, 02:48 PM
Yes, they wrote it on atptennis.com, David is in semifinal :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:
tomorow we'll see his rival

Seneca
11-16-2006, 02:49 PM
There's an easy way, there's a hard way and then there's the Nalbandian way. :)

Great effort getting through to the semis. He has all the chances in the world against Blake.

gooner88
11-16-2006, 02:53 PM
Dave is so damn lucky.He didn't deserve to be in semis.As you said,Ivan did.But anyway congrats to him.

That's life. Ljubicic should be proud of his play this week though.
Ljubicic also got lucky when Nalbo decided to have a mental meltdown when he served for the match. ;)

sophia_c
11-16-2006, 02:58 PM
That's life. Ljubicic should be proud of his play this week though.
Ljubicic also got lucky when Nalbo decided to have a mental meltdown when he served for the match. ;)


Gooner you are right..David did have a meltdown..so he should never have been in this position....of wait and see....but we know now its a semi against Blake...so lets hope he can keep himself together and at least make the final....he did well!!! :worship:

jayjay
11-16-2006, 03:35 PM
Dave is so damn lucky.He didn't deserve to be in semis.As you said,Ivan did.But anyway congrats to him.

Er.........and why did Ljubicic deserve to be in the Semis? And please don't say it's because he's Croatian and you like him.

chabela
11-16-2006, 03:47 PM
DAVID deserves to be in semis, because he won his match in straight sets , Andy and Ljubo won in tree sets.
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I watched the match. I got into a panic when Andy broke his server in second set, I thought , o no again!!!, but DAVID could do it. I'm really happy.

Next Saturday, Blake

DALE DAVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:

RogiFan88
11-16-2006, 03:51 PM
Wow, well done, David!! How did he look at the end of the match? We haven't seen it yet. He must have been so emotional. ;)

RogiFan88
11-16-2006, 03:52 PM
David is 1-2 4-4
Ivan and Pandy are 1-2 3-5 each

Kiank
11-16-2006, 04:01 PM
Great win at the right moment. Sometimes difficult or tragic life circumstances serve as turning points, and I really hope Davide will pick up the momentum to shock Blake for another vs Fed chance! Vamos, finally!

Blue Heart24
11-16-2006, 04:20 PM
Er.........and why did Ljubicic deserve to be in the Semis? And please don't say it's because he's Croatian and you like him.

Because Ljubicic beat him,and would beat Roddick,but he wasn't fit then.Actually no need to argue about this.It's not that big deal! Only,David has a chance to win other match,Ljubo doesn't that's it.What's the difference? They both earn the same number of points and $$$$$$. Only difference is that David will lose 3 matches,not 2. ;) :lol:
:wavey:

Galathea
11-16-2006, 04:55 PM
Wow, well done, David!! How did he look at the end of the match? We haven't seen it yet. He must have been so emotional. ;)

Well, he tried to keep the same straigh face during the whole game. Between games, when the tv made a closer take of his face, it really broke your heart, in some moments. He didn't celebrate or fought some points using the system (I think at least two balls were for challenge). He only made a very little sign with his fist at the match point, but very soft. He didn't mutering to himself... It was sad.

At the end, Nalby made the "cross sign" (sorry don't know if that the term in English) and looked up and talked a little. But he didn't put a show or anything.
Plus Roddick was very warm with him at the end holding his hand and showing him affec.

Now, when he had to sign "David" at the camera..:sad: The really close take showed a Nalby I never saw.

jayjay
11-16-2006, 05:01 PM
Because Ljubicic beat him,and would beat Roddick,but he wasn't fit then.Actually no need to argue about this.It's not that big deal! Only,David has a chance to win other match,Ljubo doesn't that's it.What's the difference? They both earn the same number of points and $$$$$$. Only difference is that David will lose 3 matches,not 2. ;) :lol:
:wavey:

Oh right, Ljubicic wasn't fit so it's unfair. Ok. :wavey:

16681
11-16-2006, 05:03 PM
There's an easy way, there's a hard way and then there's the Nalbandian way. :)

Great effort getting through to the semis. He has all the chances in the world against Blake.
:lol: I agree, but the Nalbandian way can be very hard on all of us that are fans :eek: But Congrats to David for making it to the Semi-Finals during a very difficult time for him I'm sure.

mel7777777
11-16-2006, 05:09 PM
Congrats to David Nalbandian. It's very hard what happened to him,and to go on and win a match like this shows a great heart. A great champion. Vamos David

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-16-2006, 05:13 PM
I'm a Ivan fan but since now he is out,I only hope David to win. :)

RogiFan88
11-16-2006, 05:47 PM
Well, he tried to keep the same straigh face during the whole game. Between games, when the tv made a closer take of his face, it really broke your heart, in some moments. He didn't celebrate or fought some points using the system (I think at least two balls were for challenge). He only made a very little sign with his fist at the match point, but very soft. He didn't mutering to himself... It was sad.

At the end, Nalby made the "cross sign" (sorry don't know if that the term in English) and looked up and talked a little. But he didn't put a show or anything.
Plus Roddick was very warm with him at the end holding his hand and showing him affec.

Now, when he had to sign "David" at the camera..:sad: The really close take showed a Nalby I never saw.

gracias, galathea!

-- it's the sign of the cross --

we'll probably see this match at 3.00pm

Joyce_23
11-16-2006, 05:58 PM
You showed heart today, David! I watched the match and he was...well, it broke my heart to see him like that. Numb is the only word to describe it, really sad. He played some great tennis though and deserved his win a 100%. I hope he'll do great in the rest of the tournament but even if he loses his semi-final it won't matter. His performance today showed the champion that he really is. Vamos David.

miraina
11-16-2006, 06:56 PM
Nalby did his job despite the loss of his godson... But his match was incredible! Very strong in the baseline, but i was sad to see him very concentrated but affected...
(sorry for my english, i try to improve it ;) )

VAMOS NAL!!! You deserve to win again!!!

crigazzio
11-16-2006, 07:14 PM
I`m expecting anything from David,from not winning a single match to winning the title.

I´m totally agree with you.....

sophia_c
11-16-2006, 07:25 PM
Wow, well done, David!! How did he look at the end of the match? We haven't seen it yet. He must have been so emotional. ;)

He concentrated a lot!!..at the end..he made the sign of the cross and looked upwards..it was moving!!!..he did well....

Schu
11-16-2006, 07:51 PM
You showed heart today, David! I watched the match and he was...well, it broke my heart to see him like that. Numb is the only word to describe it, really sad. He played some great tennis though and deserved his win a 100%. I hope he'll do great in the rest of the tournament but even if he loses his semi-final it won't matter. His performance today showed the champion that he really is. Vamos David.

Couldn't have said it better... I take back all the times I've been down on David for being mentally too fragile to close out the big matches. Today he showed the heart and courage of a true champion. And as someone else said, how sad it was at the end when he signed the camera - a David I've never seen.

Glad his family was in Shanghai. They look like a close family that will be able to help each other through this.

Vamos for the rest of the tournament but what ever happens, David you are a graceful champion.

Joyce_23
11-16-2006, 09:46 PM
Couldn't have said it better... I take back all the times I've been down on David for being mentally too fragile to close out the big matches. Today he showed the heart and courage of a true champion..

I agree, there have been times when David drove me insane because I couldn't figure out why he would lose a match. *cough* AO against Marcos *cough* Today he proved me wrong though, he came out there and played some of his best tennis under pressure. And I'm not talking about the pressure of winning this match. It is never easy to mourn anyone, especially a child, but David had to do that today while the world watched and he came out a winner. That took guts and it shows that he is much stronger then we give him credit for.

Nalbandian!!!
11-17-2006, 12:08 AM
I agree, there have been times when David drove me insane because I couldn't figure out why he would lose a match. *cough* AO against Marcos *cough* Today he proved me wrong though, he came out there and played some of his best tennis under pressure. And I'm not talking about the pressure of winning this match. It is never easy to mourn anyone, especially a child, but David had to do that today while the world watched and he came out a winner. That took guts and it shows that he is much stronger then we give him credit for.

now many people will understand he was deservedly the 3 player of the world tennis ranking in 2006 season.

Be strong David ! Argentina is with you in these sad days !:sad:

novanora
11-17-2006, 12:47 AM
A good thing for say or write, and that left not doubt about what the fans are talking about is

ESTAMOS CON VOS, DAVID!

Because a "Fuerza, David" "Vamos, David" is not that clear and could be interpreted like simple cheering (specially the second one). I think "Estamos con vos" (We're with you, David) is short and clear about what the fans are talking about.
Plus, you'll be using an argentinian way of speaking. We change the Tú spanish for Vos. It shows you really care.



According to the ATP people he knew it after or during that trainning... The boy died after the match. (argentina is -12 hours give or take with Shangai). Here' the accident was in the afternoon of the Nov, 14. We knew the kid so close to David this morning (always speaking in Argentine time..)
Thanks Galathea!!! :D "Estamos con vos" , really good suggestion :yeah: Let's see if i can make a banner of this. And also thanks Chabela for the PM :wavey: Thanks both!! i will use them in his semi-final, coz I just saw both of your information now :p

This is such an exciting match because of the special situation, and we are really proud of him!!! I didn't expect anything because he could lose the match very easily since he is in very down mood and Roddick is absolutely in his form. David threw his wristband to us after winning the match for the thanks of supporting, and upright his thumb when he passed the Argentina flag. But the winning can not change his sadness. He refused the the on-court interview for the winner and left the court directly after the match. I am so happy for him, even if he may not make the defending, this winning is definitely enough for all his fans. David :yeah:

novanora
11-17-2006, 01:10 AM
Galathea thanx for advise, i'll use it on Davis Cup

Hi Sonatinca, I will also go to Moscow to watch the DC final (and for travelling, business....as well). Hope to see u in the Olympic Stadium :p :wavey:

novanora
11-17-2006, 01:12 AM
He won 6-2 7-6. :)
Fantastic win for him under the circumstances. As usual he lost serve when he served for the match at 5-4, but it was his day today.

YES gooner!!!! HE REALLY DID IT!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: you see, like always, do not expect anything from him, and he will give you the big amazing :p ;) :bounce:

jazz_girl
11-17-2006, 01:27 AM
I think Crys and other will like to read this ;)

About Lautaro:
"There's nothing I can do for him, and that's life" said, giving himself time to release a nervous sigh.

"A news like this is very difficult, not just for the match, but for the general moment of what you're doing"
"The truth is, there's nothing I can do, I talked to the people I had to talk to and I believed that coming back to Argentina and withdraw from the Masters wasn't really necessary, because of the time, because I wasn't gonna be on time to do anything"
"During the match, as an outsider you don't notice it, but from inside you have lots of ups and downs, you think too many things. There was a sign in a moment and I asked to be removed because I couldn't play, it was very hard" "I even felt a fear situation"
The sign said "David, fight for little Lautaro"

"The sign was made with the best intentions, obviously, to give me strength, to support me, to be there with me, that's why I thanked to the people the way I did it and throwing the wristband"
"I asked for it to be removed because in the moment of the match it reminds you everytime about it, it didn't let me concentrate in the match"
"Sadly, those are things that happen, they're not the best and you have to face it and go on anyway"
"I tried to concentrate, to do the best thing in that hour and half or two hours that lasted the match, and then went on thinking"
Nalbandian intentó concentrarse y "tratar de hacer lo mejor en esa hora y media o dos horas que duró el partido, y después seguir pensando".
"I had to win in two sets to have any chances to qualify, and that's why I got nervous and made two or three double faults in a row"

lilianspring
11-17-2006, 02:58 AM
jazz_girl
hi,do you remember me?
And if you are online now,could I talk to you on msn?
There's something I need to comfirm.
lilianspring@hotmail.com

RogiFan88
11-17-2006, 04:19 AM
He concentrated a lot!!..at the end..he made the sign of the cross and looked upwards..it was moving!!!..he did well....

I taped the match but haven't watched it yet.

Fedex
11-17-2006, 04:22 AM
Good Luck David :) I hope he can defeat Blake so he atleast will atleast have the chance to defend his title.

Joyce_23
11-17-2006, 07:35 AM
now many people will understand he was deservedly the 3 player of the world tennis ranking in 2006 season.


Indeed, tenniswise David deserved to be the number three and talentwise I think he should even be above Nadal. The man is a terrific player and when he's out there and focusing he can beat anybody. Right now him winning or losing is not really on my mind though, he just seemed so sad in his last match that I really don't think any title would help him.:sad:

mtw
11-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Good luck to David. He can win in Shanghai.

Jill
11-17-2006, 01:27 PM
When I first heard what group david was in I though "crap" he always draws Roger. But I think it has now turned out good and I am happy he is playing Blake. He is in with a good chance to defend his title and not have to play Roger until final if Roger wins !!!

I think David will win in 2.

chabela
11-17-2006, 03:58 PM
2006 TENNIS MASTERS CUP SHANGHAI, CHINA
November 16, 2006

D. NALBANDIAN/A. Roddick 6-2, 7-6
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Q. Was it as easy as it looked?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, in the beginning I play very good. I did have control of the match. Then when I break 3-All in the second, then I play very nervous when I was serving for the match. And then he play good that game as well. I mean, he push a little bit hard. He put me pressure. I play good the tiebreak, as well. The tiebreak looks more for him in the beginning with a mini break, and then I play good again. But it wasn't that easy.


Q. How do you explain you started so fast and so well?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I hit very good shots in the beginning and I think it looks like I give Andy not really wake up like in the second set, and that's why I take advantage fast. And he didn't serve very good in the beginning or I return more first serves. I think that was the key. That's why I go away very fast in the first set.


Q. You must feel good that you've given yourself a shot now to get into the semifinals?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, I still have to wait, so let's see what's happen. But I play good.


Q. In the end of the second set, all the fans supported Andy. What do you think then?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: No, that's okay. I mean, he's really popular in U.S. or in the world. That's normal.


Q. What did you think at that time?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I have to win.


Q. Your nephew passed away yesterday. Was it hard to play?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, it was terrible. I mean, I couldn't enjoy the match that way I would like it. Life is like this. I can do nothing from here. I try to push as hard as I can on the court.


Q. Actually, you needed to win the match. You made six double-faults in the match, especially on the game when you were serving for the match. What do you think right now, that you give a double-fault and give Andy a quick point to coming back a little bit?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I say before, I get a little bit nervous when I was serving for the match. He play good, as well. But he made his first double-fault in a very important point in the tiebreak as well. I don't think is normal doing six double-fault, but I play very good and that's important.


Q. If you qualify for the semifinal, do you have the feeling a new tournament is beginning or this is a new thing when you arrive in a semifinal?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, of course. This a very tough group. Is very tough to qualify here. If I qualify here, I be ready for semis.


Q. You broke Roddick his first service game. Ljubicic broke Federer out there in his first serve game. What do you think about that? Is it possible Ljubicic will defeat Federer and make you out?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Anything can happen, so let's see what happen in the match. From here I can do nothing.


Q. If you do go through, do you have a feeling some luck and momentum will be on your side for the semifinals?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, in this group, it's tough to win just one match. You don't know what's going to happen on the group. So maybe I qualify or maybe I not today. But I'm sure if I do it, I be ready for semis. Two player has to qualify. We are four, and just two spot. So it's not luck here. All we're good players. The best will be there. Sometimes is not the best, but the guy who play better in the week. Sometimes you need a little of lucky sometimes.


Q. Andy is well-known for his big serve. How did you return so well? Andy is learning to serve and volley. Do you think it's easy to make some pass shot?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, he's a great server, and everybody knows. Today I return good. When he comes to the net, I hit a very good passing shot. But maybe next time not.

So he's put very pressure when he do that. I think I make it because I play very good shots today.
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chabela
11-17-2006, 04:20 PM
From Federer's interview:

Q. After the first match you said you didn't feel too much about revenge because David could come back and defeat you again in the semis or finals. Now the only possibilities you meet again, that's the final. Do you expect a repeat of the last final, I mean the last year in TMC?


ROGER FEDERER: I think it's possible, you know. He's playing Blake, right, I assume? So, I mean, I guess he's going into that match a bit maybe as a favorite after playing so well here last year and surviving kind of our group. And he played an excellent match today, you know. So I would put him a bit as the favorite, even though Blake is playing well.

For myself, you know, that's all I can look at really. I hope I will be in the finals, and then if it's Blake or Nalbandian, it doesn't really matter too much. ( :haha: :haha: :haha: come on Fedex!!! )

But it will be quite interesting to see that happening again, you know, I think. And then hopefully will be the other way around.
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From Ljubicic's interview:

Q. Do you think it's fair that you should be going home when you've beaten David? He goes through, you go home, you have the same record.

IVAN LJUBICIC: Well, it's hard to say. I mean, it is weird that you see the guy who you beat and he's in the semifinal. But he deserved it. He beat Andy in two sets and he's through.
You know, I'm happy. I mean, I cannot say that I'm frustrated. I would love to be in the semifinal. I think I played great tennis this week. But, you know, I'm also happy for him because he had a rough, rough year, a lot of injuries. And, you know, playing the way he was playing today, I think he deserved the semifinal. :yeah:
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:wavey:

chabela
11-17-2006, 04:27 PM
Thanks Galathea!!! :D "Estamos con vos" , really good suggestion :yeah: Let's see if i can make a banner of this. And also thanks Chabela for the PM :wavey: Thanks both!! i will use them in his semi-final, coz I just saw both of your information now :p

This is such an exciting match because of the special situation, and we are really proud of him!!! I didn't expect anything because he could lose the match very easily since he is in very down mood and Roddick is absolutely in his form. David threw his wristband to us after winning the match for the thanks of supporting, and upright his thumb when he passed the Argentina flag. But the winning can not change his sadness. He refused the the on-court interview for the winner and left the court directly after the match. I am so happy for him, even if he may not make the defending, this winning is definitely enough for all his fans. David :yeah:

Thank you Novanora, I'm sure you will enjoy the matches tomorrow. Rafa-Fedex DAVID-Blake (he lost the last match !!!!)

and you will go to Russia too, I wish I could go to

:wavey:

RogiFan88
11-17-2006, 05:00 PM
Indeed, tenniswise David deserved to be the number three and talentwise I think he should even be above Nadal. The man is a terrific player and when he's out there and focusing he can beat anybody. Right now him winning or losing is not really on my mind though, he just seemed so sad in his last match that I really don't think any title would help him.:sad:

Well David IS talented enough to be No 2 but he's smarter than that... why kill yourself as No 2 to try to be No 1, when you can be a comfy No 3?

I think David will beat James in the SF -- he's been there before and won it last year whereas James has never been in a big SF -- their first meeting -- s be muy interesante -- two talented guys! ;)

bluesky_rachel
11-17-2006, 06:03 PM
Thanks for the interview.Good luck,David!!!

Joyce_23
11-17-2006, 11:03 PM
Well David IS talented enough to be No 2 but he's smarter than that... why kill yourself as No 2 to try to be No 1, when you can be a comfy No 3?

That's a pretty good summary of David's outlook on tennis in general...:lol:
I hope he does well tomorrow! Vamos David.

wenty
11-18-2006, 04:05 AM
good luck David...my prayers r wit u =D =D

novanora
11-18-2006, 05:10 AM
I think Crys and other will like to read this ;)



Hi Jazz, the sign was made by my friend Lilian who I thought you also know her (she tried to get contact with you yesterday about this but didn't succeed). Yes, it is asked to be removed by an ATP official during the match coz he said it will make David feel even more painful.

novanora
11-18-2006, 05:14 AM
Thank you Novanora, I'm sure you will enjoy the matches tomorrow. Rafa-Fedex DAVID-Blake (he lost the last match !!!!)

and you will go to Russia too, I wish I could go to

:wavey:

Yep, the two semi-finals will be great matches, coz all of the four play very well at the moment. I hope Rafa's leg is ok coz he did a medical call during the match against Davydenko yesterday.

Where are you live? :wavey: you can go to Russia with your country people together coz I checked the thread in MTF Davis Cup forum and know quite a few argentinians will go to Moscow at that time.

Have to go to the court now~ :wavey:

see u all tomorrow

maqk
11-18-2006, 08:24 AM
c'mon david its time to win,

maqk
11-18-2006, 08:24 AM
& u know what

blake is a pice of cake [hehehe just kidding]

joyk
11-18-2006, 08:30 AM
Why is David ranked 8th in the race now!?

Björki
11-18-2006, 10:00 AM
Good luck to David today

Joyce_23
11-18-2006, 02:15 PM
I'm getting slightly nervous now...Vamos David!

sophia_c
11-18-2006, 02:39 PM
he is doing well....got broken and broke back...Vamos!!!

sophia_c
11-18-2006, 03:28 PM
Blake through to the final. David played really bad in the end..it seemed that he was in a different place in the second set. Now he needs to pick himself up and get ready for the DC final....

Mili
11-18-2006, 03:37 PM
David lost 4:6 1:6

Bye bye Shanghai :cry:

gooner88
11-18-2006, 05:24 PM
Blake totally deserved to win. The longer that 5-4 game on Nalbo's serve went, the more decisive it was going to be. If he had kept it tight, I was always hoping his greater experience would see him through. But Blake won that game, and carried the momentum through brilliantly.
After all he's been through, to make the SF was a great achievement and all the best for the DC final.

Joyce_23
11-18-2006, 05:24 PM
Well, that was...eh...not much of a contest to be honest. Blake was just better today and Nalby didn't have the form he had against Roddick. I don't really mind though, like I said before, his tennis this week didn't really matter anymore after what happenend. I hope he is able to find some peace with what happened and I wish him strenght in the following time.
Next up: The Davis Cup...Again, vamos David!

bailarina
11-18-2006, 11:20 PM
Well said Joyce_23.

It was wonderful to watch David's match against Roddick. Too bad he didn't seem to have the same focus in the match against Blake.

krystlel
11-19-2006, 12:10 AM
Why is David ranked 8th in the race now!?
It seems there aren't any points rewarded for getting into the SFs, only on how many RR matches won. Really strange I think.
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=63742

Galathea
11-19-2006, 12:36 AM
Well said Joyce_23.

It was wonderful to watch David's match against Roddick. Too bad he didn't seem to have the same focus in the match against Blake.

He admitted today that he wasn't concentrated enough. And also that Blake played very well the second set. David's aim was not working at well today and thing that James hitted, ball that was in. Half the those, normally are out. David tried to push harder, thinking with logic that in some moment he was going to lose the aim. Not today. That guy looked like a snipper.

But he was the only player, besides Federer that passed the RR of the four from last year. So, in three times that he played this tournament, he won one and was semifinalist in another, with a terrible tragedy in the middle of the tournament. Nothing bad.

I think sometimes, when someone dies in that way the first day you're hurt and torn apart, but also shocked. It's common to feel worst after a few days. Or being able to do things the day after than a couple of days later you don't.. it's like the shock pass and stays the depression and hurt only.

And, I didn't know this... I've just read that the ATP made him to go out yesterday to make a visit tour to four VIP sites from the sponsors, like with the other players... all that after being recluded in his hotel to only go out to eat and train!!!!... I know the have the money, but a little more understanding? His newphew and godson was crushed by an elevator, couldn't you just let him alone? I bet dressing up and go to visit several places for pictures was the last thing he wanted to do... Not matter what contract/regulation the ATP has!


A lot of the second set was Blake's merits only. Blake doesn't hit that way all the time and David didn't find the way. He tried things and commited UE trying to find some space. Nalby, except in some points like when he saved the set point that made the stadium gave him an ovation, didn't have a good hand today.

A normal JAmes, vs a normal David has another result. Or even this if it was at 5 sets.. I mean, how much time could have been James hitting the ball that way?! Ball that he touched, ball that ended in the line.. At the second set, Blake was a machine, a perfect aim, I have to say.

krystlel
11-19-2006, 03:43 AM
I'm not too disappointed with the loss. Blake was amazing. I couldn't believe some of the shots he hit from defensive positions (frequently ruining David's well-constructed points to his frustration) and the returns he made off serves that weren't that bad. With the amount of risk he took on his shots, had he been a bit off, he would have been criticised for going for ridiculous, low percentage shots. David was put under too much pressure in the second set and couldn't seem to get himself to play his normal game to keep it more tight, though that was understandable especially since they haven't played against each other before as David seemed completely shocked.

16681
11-19-2006, 05:07 AM
David :sad: But his play had seemed to slide a little downhill toward the end of the year. And then with that awful death in his family. I don't know how he managed to even keep playing.

Kiank
11-19-2006, 07:06 AM
That was a winnable match. The last game of the first set was crucial. Unfortunately, David was not able to hold, and then gradually melted down... I wish it was a best of 5 match. His serving in the second set was really weak, and Blake was punishing.
Best of luck to David in the DC final.

maqk
11-19-2006, 08:23 AM
Nalbi u lost, NO

but he had a great match i think, in fact, the whole match was s great SPECTACULAR one, & it was not only because of BLAKE, Nalbi had some terrific points,

don't know what pumped the NEW YORKER who then really out played Nalbi, :sad: whereas Nalbi always played gr8 shots but Balke shot making was a bit GREATER

good luck in the DC Finals Nalbi, u r no doubt a very very quality player & definitely one of my favs...

Joyce_23
11-19-2006, 11:56 AM
Well said Joyce_23.

It was wonderful to watch David's match against Roddick. Too bad he didn't seem to have the same focus in the match against Blake.

Thank you, it's always nice to see that people argree with my logic...;) :lol: That was a joke...I'm still kinda new here I should probably keep my terrific sense of humor (:rolleyes: ) a secret somewhat longer...

Anyway, I think David took out all of his hurt and anger on Roddick the next day, playing in a numb state of mind. That state lifted though, it always does after a couple of days and what's left is the hurt. Combine that with an James that played extremely well and you have a match he is bound to lose. In his aftermatch interview he spoke about the Davis Cup and how he wanted to win that for his nephew, Argentina and his team. I wish you all the luck in the world, David!

Julio1974
11-20-2006, 12:13 AM
I couldn't watch the match but I can imagine how he played. Anyway, let's wait for the miracle now.

chabela
11-20-2006, 11:08 PM
David's interview:

2006 TENNIS MASTERS CUP SHANGHAI, CHINA ,November 18, 2006

J. BLAKE/D. Nalbandian 6-4, 6-1


DAVID NALBANDIAN

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.



Q. David, I guess that was a pretty tough match for you out there today. Can you just run through your thoughts on that match.

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, it was pretty tough. I mean, he played very solid, very good. Uhm, I couldn't play deep as I wish during all the match, and he played really good.
He hit very good shots. I always was playing on defense. He play very good.


Q. I mean, how disappointed are you not to be able to defend your title?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Well, I was in a very tough group, so I play very -- three tough matches, and today was the fourth. Sometime you win, sometime you lose. I mean, it's simple here.
He played better than me today, so that's why he beat me. But of course I would wish to play the finals tomorrow, but unfortunately it's not like this.


Q. What are you looking for in your Davis Cup match? Are you looking forward to it?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, of course. I mean, I'm going to practice in Europe next week with the team, and we'll be ready.


Q. Just on that, David, you've played a lot of tennis. Do you still feel fresh and ready to go for that Davis Cup final? Obviously, you're motivated. But fitness-wise, are you feeling up to it?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: No, feeling good. I mean, we have almost two weeks from now, so enough time to practice, enough time to prepare. Like I said before, we would met the team in Europe on Thursday -- no, Wednesday. We should be ready.


Q. Is there anything differently that you would have done at the match today?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, try to win.



Q. But strategy-wise?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Try to play deep, but I didn't make it. I tried, but I hit very long sometimes, sometimes very short. He take the chances.


Q. What do you think about the surface after the several matches you played? Different from last year?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, yeah, much difference. Bounce is higher and slower.


Q. What do you prefer?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: I prefer the other one.
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:wavey:

novanora
11-21-2006, 04:03 AM
David has left Shanghai yesterday evening to Moscow

Joyce_23
11-21-2006, 10:55 AM
David's interview:
Q. Is there anything differently that you would have done at the match today?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, try to win.



:haha: :haha:

You can always rely on David to answer a stupid question in the most simple way possible...:lol:

justClaudia
11-21-2006, 04:59 PM
David has left Shanghai yesterday evening to Moscow

:toothy: VAMOS!

chabela
11-21-2006, 05:14 PM
Sorry, but David is in Geneva, where Arg Davis Cup team will train . They will go to Moscow next Sunday.

:wavey:

Galathea
11-21-2006, 07:09 PM
Sorry, but David is in Geneva, where Arg Davis Cup team will train . They will go to Moscow next Sunday.

:wavey:

Let's hope the best. If the surface is the same they used in 2002, as they say it is, it's similar to Shangai's past year one. That's what Nalbandian said in some interviews for our press. So he knows what to expect and can help with that.
Today Safin and Davydenko were confirmed for the singles.

Galathea
11-21-2006, 07:11 PM
Q. Is there anything differently that you would have done at the match today?

DAVID NALBANDIAN: Yeah, try to win.

:haha: :haha:

You always always rely on David to answer a stupid question in the most simple way possible...:lol:


I can see his face answering that.

I don't know what was worst. This or the "how did it work the strategy you have planned for today?" (match against Federer).. Answer: obviously, looking at the score, very bad" (or something similar)

RogiFan88
11-21-2006, 07:31 PM
Sorry, but David is in Geneva, where Arg Davis Cup team will train . They will go to Moscow next Sunday.

:wavey:

:cool:

VIVA, ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!

novanora
11-22-2006, 02:36 AM
Sorry, but David is in Geneva, where Arg Davis Cup team will train . They will go to Moscow next Sunday.

:wavey:

Thanks Chabela :hug: I just know he left Shanghai on this Monday to Europe. I thought it should be Moscow, don't know they will train in another European city first :p