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BNP Paribas TMS final: N. Davydenko vs. D. Hrbaty

RonE
11-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Davydenko leads Hrbaty 3-1 but his only loss came to the Slovak in 2002 on clay.

In their last meeting Davydenko came back from 2 sets to love down to beat Hrbaty at this year's Australian Open.

Who will win this coveted title? Thoughts, opinions and reasons please.

Adler
11-04-2006, 05:37 PM
I hope Davydenko in 3, cause I don't think it will be a brilliant match. Tough - maybe, but it's not the same

Leo
11-04-2006, 05:38 PM
Davydenko, it's time to win your first TMS title!

shotgun
11-04-2006, 05:38 PM
What a TMS final.

RonE
11-04-2006, 05:41 PM
What a TMS final.

Can't be much worse than Robredo-Stepanek :)

RonE
11-04-2006, 05:44 PM
To answer the question: I would go for Kolya in 4 sets.

I think technically he is the superior of the two players- Hrbaty's serve can get a little dodgy when he is under pressure due to that exaggerated ball toss. And I think this surface would favour Kolya's game more who can attack and put more 'oompf' on his shots.

In the mental department- Davydenko sometimes does have lapses as was evident today in his match against Robredo. I think such a lapse will occur in either the 2nd or 3rd set causing the match to go to four sets. I do think, however, that Davydenko will ultimately prevail and he has proven himself a strong player in big matches as evidenced by his very potent grand slam results.

Ernham
11-04-2006, 05:50 PM
It all depends on how many chickens Hrbaty sacrifices tonight.

Horatio Caine
11-04-2006, 05:52 PM
I haven't looked into the h2h beyond RonE's explanation...but I think Dom has a reasonable shot tbh.

DrJules
11-04-2006, 05:52 PM
Can't be much worse than Robredo-Stepanek :)

Paris for the last few years have been very unlucky with the withdrawl of so many of the best players.

Jimnik
11-04-2006, 05:54 PM
I hope Davydenko wins it. And I think he will, in straight sets.

RonE
11-04-2006, 05:58 PM
I haven't looked into the h2h beyond RonE's explanation...but I think Dom has a reasonable shot tbh.

http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=Davydenko%2C+Nikolay&player2=hrbaty

ys
11-04-2006, 05:59 PM
I hope Davydenko wins it. And I think he will, in straight sets.

I hope so too.. But my money are on Hrbaty.. Kolya had a tougher semis while Hrbaty generally has an incredible stamina. If it goes beoynd three sets, Kolya is cooked.

If Davydenko wins it, I'd say he would be a very worthy contender for #3 ( it would be 5 titles, one of them TMS, 3 Slam qurters, 1 Slam semis and Davis Cup final, a heck of an year ) , which should be between him and Andy.

*Ljubica*
11-04-2006, 06:09 PM
I can honestly say I'm really looking forward to this match - and I will be happy whoever wins. They ae both nice guys and very underrated players - who work incredibly hard and deserve a TMS trophy. If Davydenko plays as well as he did in the first set against Robredo, and isn't eaten up with nerves, - I think he may just win in 4 tight sets - but good luck to them both :)

Jimnik
11-04-2006, 06:12 PM
I hope so too.. But my money are on Hrbaty.. Kolya had a tougher semis while Hrbaty generally has an incredible stamina. If it goes beoynd three sets, Kolya is cooked.

If Davydenko wins it, I'd say he would be a very worthy contender for #3 ( it would be 5 titles, one of them TMS, 3 Slam qurters, 1 Slam semis and Davis Cup final, a heck of an year ) , which should be between him and Andy.
Well I think Kolya's stamina is better than Hrbaty's, isn't it?

He's the one who won their 5-set meeting at the AO. In fact, he's won 3 out of 4 5-set matches this year, losing only to Falla at Wimbledon (and I think that was more due to the surface than stamina).

As for the match-up, Hrbaty might be a bit too predictable for Davydenko. I don't see anything Hrbaty can throw that Kolya can't handle.

Ernham
11-04-2006, 06:16 PM
Man, I should get a wad of vcash for picking davy to win it before it even started, while the entirety of MTF prdicted Safin/Blake/Gasquet/Berdych winning it, claiming my pick was "stupid". :D Who's stupid now?

DrJules
11-04-2006, 06:20 PM
Can't be much worse than Robredo-Stepanek :)

I think the 2 best master cup finals this year were in Monte Carlo and by far the best in Rome. The others have except the 3 set Toronto final been won in straight sets.

MarieS
11-04-2006, 06:24 PM
:yawn:
I hope Kolya wins though. :banana:

jole
11-04-2006, 06:53 PM
Davydenko is in good shape, but I think you have to give the physical edge to the guy who doesn't get injured and never retires because of breathing problems/fatigue, etc.

ChinoRios4Ever
11-04-2006, 07:15 PM
Davydenko in 3 or 4 sets

DrJules
11-04-2006, 07:17 PM
Expect Davydenko to win the battle of the male models.:lol: :lol: :lol:

Katastrophe
11-04-2006, 07:21 PM
Expect Davydenko to win the battle of the male models.:lol: :lol: :lol:

A little bit of my coffee just came through my nose. LOL, too funny...:lol:

Iván
11-04-2006, 07:24 PM
My mate who is in Paris overheard Hrbaty saying to a reporter from Slovakia that he is still seething from his defeat to Davy at the australian open this year. **Hrbaty was cruising two sets up and davy came back to win*****


I think he can do it because its indoor and its capet-his strongest surface.

Plus i feel davy has won too much. He is not federer and his 2nd set wobble vs robredo has convinced me that hrbatys career might actually start to be worth something

Jimnik
11-04-2006, 07:26 PM
You heard it here first. ;)

Voo de Mar
11-04-2006, 07:27 PM
I think Kolya will win 3-1.

Iván
11-04-2006, 07:29 PM
Well if dominik plays the way he did in the 1st two sets in australia this year he can beat davy.

I dont normally like dominiks style of play but i have noticed on carpet he can be a handful with some great groundstrokes.

jole
11-04-2006, 07:31 PM
My mate who is in Paris overheard Hrbaty saying to a reporter from Slovakia that he is still seething from his defeat to Davy at the australian open this year.


I think he can do it because its indoor and its capet-his strongest surface

I like the word choice of "seething".

Iván
11-04-2006, 07:34 PM
I know that word has convinced me that we will have a good game tommorow.

Not like radek stephenek who was absoloutely awful against robredo in hamburg.

ys
11-04-2006, 07:35 PM
Well I think Kolya's stamina is better than Hrbaty's, isn't it?


No, it is not.


He's the one who won their 5-set meeting at the AO. In fact, he's won 3 out of 4 5-set matches this year, losing only to Falla at Wimbledon (and I think that was more due to the surface than stamina).

Kolya easily admits that he is not a good best-of-five player, that he hates it. But on few occasions he was really lucky in GrandSlam best-of-fives matches playing opponents who had to play exremely tough exhausting fivesetters ( some of them even more than one ) just before plaing Kolya ( Robredo at RG2005, Hrbaty at AO 2006, Haas at USO-2006 ) - he definitely benefited from that..

Voo de Mar
11-04-2006, 07:42 PM
Ropey final for me :(
Hrbaty's second Masters Series final...

Naranoc
11-04-2006, 07:45 PM
Man, I should get a wad of vcash for picking davy to win it before it even started, while the entirety of MTF prdicted Safin/Blake/Gasquet/Berdych winning it, claiming my pick was "stupid". :D Who's stupid now?

:lol: He hasn't won yet! Come back to gloat tomorrow :cool:

Flibbertigibbet
11-04-2006, 08:14 PM
Davydenko in five close, exciting, well-played sets would be nice.

ReturnWinner
11-04-2006, 08:17 PM
hrbaty has chances to win ,at least this match will be more excitant and funny than madrid final:o i am sure

Dancing Hero
11-04-2006, 08:32 PM
Davydenko in 4 sets is my guess.

Deathless Mortal
11-04-2006, 08:55 PM
I think Davydenko in 4 because he's in great form, he's playing very well in Bercy, in first three matches he lost only 10 games, and Hrbaty was good, but my opinion is that Kolya will win.

enqvistfan
11-04-2006, 08:57 PM
I hope Davydenko.

Blue Heart24
11-04-2006, 09:27 PM
Dominator in 5,please.

LK_22
11-04-2006, 10:37 PM
It's Davydenko's time this week. Hrbaty's exceeded all expectations just by reaching the final

tangerine_dream
11-04-2006, 10:45 PM
This has to be the most unglamorous final of the year. :lol:

Scotso
11-04-2006, 11:17 PM
This is a good way to end Dominik's otherwise poor season, even if he doesn't win the title.

But I think and hope that Nikolay will win.

Fergie
11-04-2006, 11:47 PM
Please Nikolay win this one :rolleyes:

musefanatic
11-05-2006, 12:16 AM
I think it has to be Koyla, Hrbaty'll get blown away by him cos he's just so good at the moment and Dom isn't really, not up to his standards anyway.

linus
11-05-2006, 12:22 AM
If Davy forgot the 2nd set in semi... he will win :aplot:

selyoink
11-05-2006, 06:50 AM
Davydenko should win in 4 sets but for some reason I think he might lose it.

refero*fervens
11-05-2006, 07:06 AM
If Davydenko wins he'll be on par with Blake and Nadal for five titles this year. Good luck!

Experimentee
11-05-2006, 07:24 AM
Well I think Kolya's stamina is better than Hrbaty's, isn't it?

He's the one who won their 5-set meeting at the AO. In fact, he's won 3 out of 4 5-set matches this year, losing only to Falla at Wimbledon (and I think that was more due to the surface than stamina).

As for the match-up, Hrbaty might be a bit too predictable for Davydenko. I don't see anything Hrbaty can throw that Kolya can't handle.

Hrbaty has better stamina than anyone on tour, including Davydenko. The reason he ran out of gas in their AO match is that he'd already played 4 five setters in a row prior to that and spent about 5 hours on court each match.

I've seen Davydenko retire because of heat at the AO in similar conditions to what Hrbaty endured for 5 matches.

Anyway Davydenko seems to be in great form, but Dominik's had a lot of good wins when he was the underdog. I think Dominik will finish what he should have done at the AO if he can just keep his head together and not choke.

Action Jackson
11-05-2006, 07:51 AM
Well I think Kolya's stamina is better than Hrbaty's, isn't it?

He's the one who won their 5-set meeting at the AO. In fact, he's won 3 out of 4 5-set matches this year, losing only to Falla at Wimbledon (and I think that was more due to the surface than stamina).

As for the match-up, Hrbaty might be a bit too predictable for Davydenko. I don't see anything Hrbaty can throw that Kolya can't handle.

Hrbaty is easily the fittest guy on tour. Unlike the last match at the AO the cumulative effect of playing 3 5-setters in a row isn't going to be a factor here and Hrbaty has a better overall 5 set record as well.

PMK hits the ball the same way all the time and Hrbaty is the same, it's just who will do it better.

Xavidbz
11-05-2006, 09:23 AM
Davydenko in 3 straight sets.