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The Boris Pashanski Files Thread (His racist comments, arguments etc)

Ivanatis
11-03-2006, 11:40 PM
http://www.tenisnews.com.br/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6438

unfortunately I don't speak any portuguese, so I asked a guy from Brazil
he told me that Pashanski somehow related Blacks to Monkeys (though his English is not that good)

difficult topic, anybody able to translate?

Foosimoo
11-03-2006, 11:58 PM
One thing he is saying is that black people can take the heat better, while white people are more intelligent....:shrug:

Sjengster
11-04-2006, 01:24 AM
Forgive me if I'm making a generalisation based on incorrect data, but didn't his compatriot Tipsarevic cause a minor kerfuffle a few years back when he called Mauresmo a pervert, and said he lost respect for Agassi when he married Graf, or something similarly bizarre? Tolerance for minorities is something a few Serbian players would do well to brush up on, evidently.

Ernham
11-04-2006, 01:28 AM
"he lost respect for Agassi when he married Graf, or something similarly bizarre? "

I'm guessing it was the other way around.

shotgun
11-04-2006, 03:27 AM
Ok, just making a clearer translation:

First he says "black people have better physical conditions to stand high temperatures, but white people are more intelligent."

Then about Julio Silva, a black Brazilian tennis player:

"He looks like a monkey." Then Julio made an error: "He not only looks like a monkey, but he also thinks like a monkey."

"Everyone in the tour know him as 'monkey', it's his nickname. Do you know the Lacoste symbol (alligator)? His clothes should have a monkey symbol instead."

"I say what I think."

---

Pashanski is not exactly known for his class (he already had problems in the past with other players like Del Potro, Gonzalez, Patience), but this was kinda shocking to say the least.

ezekiel
11-04-2006, 03:51 AM
Those comments appear to be very unoriginally racist and the whole article seems like an editorial , maybe the author is just bitter about something such as his guy losing

shotgun
11-04-2006, 04:01 AM
Those comments appear to be very unoriginally racist and the whole article seems like an editorial , maybe the author is just bitter about something such as his guy losing

No, I don't think so. This site is usually very reliable when it comes to info on Brazilian tennis. And who would 'his guy' be?

ezekiel
11-04-2006, 04:18 AM
No, I don't think so. This site is usually very reliable when it comes to info on Brazilian tennis. And who would 'his guy' be?


I don't know this site of course but the author suggest giving suspension as if he has a say in it when he should just report the story and context . It just seems like a bitter editorial

shotgun
11-04-2006, 04:26 AM
I don't know this site of course but the author suggest giving suspension as if he has a say in it when he should just report the story and context . It just seems like a bitter editorial

We'll see how far this goes... if the author has recorded anything then Pashanski should be really worried now.

If he hasn't, one would expect Pashanski to get some lawyers into this case and ask for an indemnification? If he doesn't do anything, then it's pretty obvious it's all true.

I mean I actually tend to believe the author, this site is very independent and trustworthy at the same time, while Pashanski doesn't exactly have a clean sheet.

ezekiel
11-04-2006, 04:44 AM
Forgive me if I'm making a generalisation based on incorrect data, but didn't his compatriot Tipsarevic cause a minor kerfuffle a few years back when he called Mauresmo a pervert, and said he lost respect for Agassi when he married Graf, or something similarly bizarre?

There is nothing wrong with those statements , many people including American president think that gays are perverts, I don't but that's a difference of opinion and as for Agassi/Graf marriage I can see his point but I don't know why he would comment on it or the context of that statement.



Tolerance for minorities is something a few Serbian players would do well to brush up on, evidently.

I wonder if you make such sweeping statements about every nationality and your own :rolleyes:
Oh and I forgive you for being ignorant :)

ezekiel
11-04-2006, 04:54 AM
We'll see how far this goes... if the author has recorded anything then Pashanski should be really worried now.

If he hasn't, one would expect Pashanski to get some lawyers into this case and ask for an indemnification? If he doesn't do anything, then it's pretty obvious it's all true.

I mean I actually tend to believe the author, this site is very independent and trustworthy at the same time, while Pashanski doesn't exactly have a clean sheet.

I don't know what to think about this, the comments are not original at all and there is little context involved. I doubt he reads that site or it will affect him much at all financially or otherwise

El Legenda
11-04-2006, 06:47 AM
thats Serbs for you

LocoPorElTenis
11-04-2006, 07:12 AM
There is nothing wrong with those statements , many people including American president think that gays are perverts

Since when the fact that the American president believes something makes that something true??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: .

Dubya is a bigot just like Pashanki (they may choose different targets for their bigotry) in case you hadn't noticed.

Action Jackson
11-04-2006, 07:13 AM
As for what Pashanski said well it doesn't surprise me at all. In every workplace there are going to be people with racist views and tennis is no different in this case.

At least he is honest about it and people can take it or leave it. As for Serbs being intolerant well some are and others aren't, but that can be found anywhere.

World Beater
11-04-2006, 07:44 AM
why can you make generally true comments about a particular race's physicality and not the mentality? just as you have different genes you also have different cultures emphasizing certain aspects over others. for example, asians are short and smart. you look at the stats in the u.s. and will find it's generally true. but when it's "blacks are tall and not as smart," theres an uproar?

:lol:

if you actually knew the geography of asia, you would realize that some of the tallest people in the world actually come from northern china/mongolia. Northern India also typically has individuals who are tall in comparison to the south, and no these are not exceptions. Your view is just a convenient stereotype perpetuated by one race or ethnicity.

i'm no more interested in pashanski's statements than rafa=fedkilla's chauvanistic tendencies.

Action Jackson
11-04-2006, 09:05 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=88289

Experimentee
11-04-2006, 12:10 PM
:rolleyes: at Pashanski. What a bigot :o

ezekiel
11-04-2006, 01:20 PM
Since when the fact that the American president believes something makes that something true??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: .


It's a difference of opinion, not wrong or right by itself

Dubya is a bigot just like Pashanki (they may choose different targets for their bigotry) in case you hadn't noticed.


If those comments are true than that's a good point

Andre♥
11-04-2006, 01:45 PM
I don't know what are the tennis rules about this matter, but if they are similar to the soccer ones, he's going to be suspended for a quite long time.

federated
11-04-2006, 02:47 PM
:yawn: racists.

Luka Matic
11-04-2006, 03:02 PM
Well he just said that the guy is known as MONKEY...It's not his fault...

amierin
11-04-2006, 03:34 PM
It's also stated that this Pashanski person has had run ins with other players from South America, Del Potro, Gonzalez and with Olivier Patience who is from France. It seems he's been raised on very old concepts that when they see the light of day in this century truly shock people because it seems as if the world has moved on when in some places it hasn't.

The comments made by a countryman of Pashanski about Agassi and Graf boggle the mind.

I'm not Eastern European so I can't comment on why this person has these attitudes and feels secure enough in them to state them in public without fearing any repercussion. I hope that the tour, while occupied with redoing the schedule of events has time to deal with this crap.

CooCooCachoo
11-04-2006, 03:38 PM
Ok, just making a clearer translation:

First he says "black people have better physical conditions to stand high temperatures, but white people are more intelligent."

Then about Julio Silva, a black Brazilian tennis player:

"He looks like a monkey." Then Julio made an error: "He not only looks like a monkey, but he also thinks like a monkey."

"Everyone in the tour know him as 'monkey', it's his nickname. Do you know the Lacoste symbol (alligator)? His clothes should have a monkey symbol instead."

"I say what I think."

---

Pashanski is not exactly known for his class (he already had problems in the past with other players like Del Potro, Gonzalez, Patience), but this was kinda shocking to say the least.

Hmm ,what problems were there?

Funny how Silva translates to 'Hisses'.

And I already had little respect for Boris. What I had, is gone now. Absolutely horrible and this is worthy of a suspension.

uglyamerican
11-04-2006, 03:40 PM
I don't really like the idea of suspending athletes for the things they say. I understand the rationale is that they are representatives of a business, but if you're going to stick microphones in peoples faces at every available opportunity you're going to have people saying things that are foolish.

Punishing speech leads to Nadal-like athletes who parrot the same three sports cliches over and over again.

It's unfortunate that Pashanski should say something like this (if indeed he did), which only stirs up anti-Serbia rhetoric, and compels Serbians to defending something that's (at least) distasteful.

As someone who is interested in Serbia, it's disappointing to read a story like this, because it only leads to bad feelings for everybody.

Ernham
11-04-2006, 04:01 PM
I think the comments really depend on context and whether or not the guy really is known as "the monkey" or whatever. My coach used to call me "bunny" because of several hop-like steps I'd always did when stopping before running into the net. If he really is called "the monkey" and he really did something dumb and/or monkey like(not sure what you could do like a monkey on a tennis court execpt maybe climb up the umpire's chair), then not a big deal.

Peoples
11-04-2006, 04:10 PM
Why don't you rename the thread to Pashanski:"Blacks are Monkeys!" or something similar? This is MTF after all.

Jelena
11-04-2006, 04:27 PM
I just read the Brazilian source, as I understand Portuguese, and I must say (as a Serbian), that I feel ashamed about what Pašanski says. My reaction reading it was: "Are you crazy?" I am really :o :speakles: about it. He should be happy that I haven't been in the vip-tent there in Brazil.

Godiva
11-04-2006, 07:25 PM
Pashanski and others of his ilk are woefully underexposed. Pity really.

marti_228
11-04-2006, 07:52 PM
Not all Americans are idiots. Some of us are actually Black Americans too. I cringe when I see the "piggy" or "monkey boy" references to Rafa knowing the mentality of the people who say these things. The mapping of the human genome shows that all humanity began on what is now the continent of Africa and that we are truly all related. The concept of race is an economic ploy to make it easier to justify the wholesale **** of continents and their natural resources. Oh wait, this is a tennis board. My bad.
Some people calling themselves Americans are as ignorant as the player who made the statements.

Yes, I agree with your point.
I think Pashansky should be fined. If a player that doesn't give a press conference after a match, is fined; I can't see how this seems to be irrelevant.

DrJules
11-04-2006, 08:17 PM
I cringe when I see the "piggy" or "monkey boy" references to Rafa knowing the mentality of the people who say these things.

Most of the "piggy" comments are of a light hearted nature and often illustrated by humorous cartoons by RonE.

However, the "monkey boy" do tend to come from individuals of a far darker nature such as Prima Donna and probably are of a more racist nature.

DDrago2
11-04-2006, 08:33 PM
I find calling somebody a pig worse than caling him a monkey
Buy the way, Charles Darwin looked like a monkey too :lol: That's how he came up with his evolution theory maybe - kids were teasing him, "monkey! monkey!" and he responded "you are all monkeys!"

As for Pasanski, he is a bit crazy and simple guy it seems. Some people here in Serbia are racist but I didn't expect this from a tennis player

GlennMirnyi
11-04-2006, 08:41 PM
I've called Nadal many things but monkey is something completely over the line, in my opinion.

Pashanski could be arrested here. It's a crime to say something like that in Brazil and if there are enough people around to prove it, he can't pay a fine to leave the jail.

zicofirol
11-04-2006, 11:07 PM
Forgive me if I'm making a generalisation based on incorrect data, but didn't his compatriot Tipsarevic cause a minor kerfuffle a few years back when he called Mauresmo a pervert, and said he lost respect for Agassi when he married Graf, or something similarly bizarre? Tolerance for minorities is something a few Serbian players would do well to brush up on, evidently.

haha, I wonder why they killed eachother for 10 years, they are all such tolerant people...

I played soccer with some Croatians who either hated blacks or treated them like shit, they would not let them play and when they played they woudl make monkey noises to make fun of them or call them stupid etc.

I was shocked, they also had a very short fuse and woudl go off on anyone...

shotgun
11-04-2006, 11:20 PM
I don't mean to make generalizations or anything - it's actually the other way around - but from personal observation I can say that racism against black people is more tolerated in countries with a low percentage of black people. Of course there are racists (and idiots) everywhere, but the main difference is that racist people from those countries are more open and honest about it, while racist people from countries that present a diverse ethnicity practice it in a more veiled way. So what I mean is, there aren't countries with a bigger contingent of racists than others - it's just manifested in different ways.

revolution
11-04-2006, 11:28 PM
Eastern Europeans often tend to look upon blacks as an inferior race, so this is no surprise.

DDrago2
11-05-2006, 07:19 AM
Don't you think it's funny that Pasanski's simple minded comments started the most "intelectual" thread on MTF in a long time? All that should have been said is that he should be banned for a period of time and thaught a few things about life in general

I find it strange that someone who travels and plays tennis throughout the world has such savage-like outlooks on the world

Tennis Fool
11-05-2006, 07:46 AM
I find it strange that someone who travels and plays tennis throughout the world has such savage-like outlooks on the world

Why? Have you read any of the player blogs? Someone as witty as Dima even says that all he does is spend 1/2 of his life in Duty Free shops at the airport and the other half on some tennis court. Not much time for getting to know the places they visit--forget even the people.

Grofica
11-05-2006, 11:07 AM
As Serb I am not here to defend Pasanski, I think his statment is stupid and reckless!! Also, I think that on this planet is more than 6 billion people and more than 85% are racist, so whole this thing about his statment is blown out of porpotion, and further more even if he gets to be punished he won't stop thinking what he thinks he will just stop saying it in public!! So you tell me what is right way to fight agains racism? because punishing is certanly not.
About Tipsarevics statment of the guys, a lot of people are homophobic, and his statment for Agassi is not understatable even for me !

LocoPorElTenis
11-05-2006, 12:21 PM
As Serb I am not here to defend Pasanski, I think his statment is stupid and reckless!! Also, I think that on this planet is more than 6 billion people and more than 85% are racist, so whole this thing about his statment is blown out of porpotion, and further more even if he gets to be punished he won't stop thinking what he thinks he will just stop saying it in public!! So you tell me what is right way to fight agains racism? because punishing is certanly not.
About Tipsarevics statment of the guys, a lot of people are homophobic, and his statment for Agassi is not understatable even for me !

Although I agree that punishment won't solve the problem of racism, IMO it's the least you can do. If pashanski says what he said in public and no actions are taken, it sends a message that being racist is ok and tolerated. So I don't think a suspension would solve anything, but the lack of a suspension would make things worse.

Just because "a lot" or "85%" of people are racist or homophobic, that doesn't make it right. And thankfully there are many people who are neither and actually welcome and embrace those different from us :hug:

Kristen
11-05-2006, 02:12 PM
In this article is he referring to everyone who is black? Or just Silva? Does he actually look like a monkey? There are some cultures that look a bit rougher than others... This means that caucasians look like albino monkeys?

Growing up I always thought Asians were superior mentally, but now...I work with some and they aren't the brightest stars in the sky.

Magenta
11-05-2006, 02:24 PM
Wonderful. Congratulations moron, you really couldn't ask for a better ambassador.
As a Serb I find his comment disgusting.

LocoPorElTenis
11-05-2006, 03:00 PM
In this article is he referring to everyone who is black? Or just Silva? Does he actually look like a monkey? There are some cultures that look a bit rougher than others... This means that caucasians look like albino monkeys?.

Why do people try to justify the unjustifiable? The article says

Pashanski, em voz alta, sem esconder nada, falou e confirmou ao repórter que estava comigo, que os tenistas negros têm capacidade física melhor de aguentar o calor, mas que as pessoas brancas são mais inteligentes.

Literal translation:

Pashanski, in a loud voice, without hiding anything, spoke and confirmed to the journalist who was with me that black tennis players have a better physical capacity to withstand the heat, but white people are more intelligent.

So yes, his comments referred to all black people and not just Silva. But even if he spoke only about Silva, his comments would have been utterly racist all the same.

Stop defending the indefensible. If you look down to black people as less intelligent, at least say it openly like Pashanski. A closeted racist is the worst kind of racist.

LocoPorElTenis
11-05-2006, 03:02 PM
Wonderful. Congratulations moron, you really couldn't ask for a better ambassador.
As a Serb I find his comment disgusting.

I hope most people realize that Pashanski is just an individual and as such his (disgusting) opinions don't represent his country but only himself :wavey: :hug:

zicofirol
11-05-2006, 03:11 PM
Eastern Europeans often tend to look upon blacks as an inferior race, so this is no surprise.

yeah, unlike the british, all they did was treat them as second class citizens...

Action Jackson
11-06-2006, 09:08 AM
yeah, unlike the british, all they did was treat them as second class citizens...

Come on! is that true?

NATAS81
11-06-2006, 09:24 AM
Oh Snap! I think I hear Lee mumbling somewhere!

scoobs
11-06-2006, 09:43 AM
yeah, unlike the british, all they did was treat them as second class citizens...

Some of us are not proud of our colonial past but there's not a lot we can do to change it, unfortunately.

Action Jackson
11-07-2006, 06:16 AM
I think they should nominate Boris for the Humanitarian Award for all his wonderful work he does with African children.

uglyamerican
11-07-2006, 06:59 AM
I added more to my post.

Action Jackson
11-07-2006, 07:40 AM
So I would say that individuals who don't interact with people of another race have more racial predjudices. This is why insular minortiy communities are more hated than non-insular minorities.

That depends as well. Not all communities are the same and there is a definite difference between hostility and curiousity. In most places it's curiousity though there will be a certain amount of negativity especially if all they know are stereotypes and aren't prepared to judge for themselves.

Just cause some places are more multicultural doesn't necessarily mean they will be better, not all circumstances are the same. I got a friend of mine who got more racial crap when he was in the major cities, than he did in the smaller communities.

uglyamerican
11-07-2006, 08:54 AM
.

Just cause some places are more multicultural doesn't necessarily mean they will be better, not all circumstances are the same.

Now we are in agreement.:yeah:

Kristen
11-07-2006, 01:54 PM
Why do people try to justify the unjustifiable?

So yes, his comments referred to all black people and not just Silva. But even if he spoke only about Silva, his comments would have been utterly racist all the same.

Stop defending the indefensible. If you look down to black people as less intelligent, at least say it openly like Pashanski. A closeted racist is the worst kind of racist.
When you assume, you make an ass out of u + me.
I am not trying to justify anything Boris has said.

Thanks for answering my question though. I can only read English, and due to the late time I viewed this thread, I was skimming over the posts. I don't need to explain myself to you, but I don't need you or others thinking I am a 'closet racist'.

I welcome accusations of any kind, but you need to take a chill pill. Racism is a shitty thing and there's NO NEED for you to accuse me of looking down on 'black' people. I look down on idiots, assholes and some politicians. What colour, shape, size, gender someone is makes no difference to me. Understood?

I'm not a closet racist. I hate all of mankind as a species.

LocoPorElTenis
11-07-2006, 03:57 PM
When you assume, you make an ass out of u + me.
I am not trying to justify anything Boris has said.

Thanks for answering my question though. I can only read English, and due to the late time I viewed this thread, I was skimming over the posts. I don't need to explain myself to you, but I don't need you or others thinking I am a 'closet racist'.

I welcome accusations of any kind, but you need to take a chill pill. Racism is a shitty thing and there's NO NEED for you to accuse me of looking down on 'black' people. I look down on idiots, assholes and some politicians. What colour, shape, size, gender someone is makes no difference to me. Understood?

I'm not a closet racist. I hate all of mankind as a species.

I'm sorry if I offended you. My comments weren't directed specifically at you, but at the many posters who instead of condemning Pashanski's comments as the shit they are tried to come up with (wrong) ways to make it sound as if it wasn't a big deal. I apologize in that I should have made it clear that my anger was prompted by, but not directed to, your specific post.

Your post does sound like an attempt at justifying what Pashanski said. But it's true that sometimes we don't express ourselves clearly enough, and also there can be misunderstandings. I take it that this was one of these misunderstandings and I won't consider you a racist, either closeted or otherwise.

:wavey:

hablovah19
11-07-2006, 07:07 PM
What a racist :rolleyes::ignore:
I still can't believe that some people think like this, in our times :help:

ezekiel
11-07-2006, 07:17 PM
What a racist :rolleyes::ignore:
I still can't believe that some people think like this, in our times :help:


why not ?
A bunch of people on this forum call Nadal a "Pig"

Jim Jones
11-07-2006, 07:21 PM
why not ?
A bunch of people on this forum call Nadal a "Pig"

But I think the people who said that were white. I think that whites can call whites anything and blacks can call blacks anything such as n word and monkey.

hablovah19
11-07-2006, 07:38 PM
why not ?
A bunch of people on this forum call Nadal a "Pig"

I never did get why Nadal is called a pig, but that doesn't change the fact taht this Pashanski guy is racist :shrug:

And shame on you for even defending him, Ezekiel :o

FrogBurger
11-07-2006, 08:45 PM
Sounds like a sellout - SELLOUT!

NyGeL
11-07-2006, 08:54 PM
I saw him playing today against Belic and he played awful.

DrJules
11-07-2006, 08:56 PM
why not ?
A bunch of people on this forum call Nadal a "Pig"

Context is a key element that has to be considered. The use of "Pig" is mostly light hearted and humourously used on this site. I assume you are referring to this thread:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=40700

Now how about a piggy roasting thread.

shotgun
11-07-2006, 09:09 PM
Well 'pig' has never been used against any specific kind of race as far as I know. Whilst 'monkey' is a common racist insult for black people in many parts of the world.

Also, I've never seen anyone saying 'Nadal not only looks like a pig, but also thinks like a pig'.

Frooty_Bazooty
11-07-2006, 09:16 PM
Forgive me if I'm making a generalisation based on incorrect data, but didn't his compatriot Tipsarevic cause a minor kerfuffle a few years back when he called Mauresmo a pervert, and said he lost respect for Agassi when he married Graf, or something similarly bizarre? Tolerance for minorities is something a few Serbian players would do well to brush up on, evidently.

Hey sjengster, do you a have source for this. I'll be really dissapointed if its true, i used to really like Janko :sad:

ezekiel
11-07-2006, 09:47 PM
Well 'pig' has never been used against any specific kind of race as far as I know. Whilst 'monkey' is a common racist insult for black people in many parts of the world.

Pig has been used very often as a demeaning insult and I might say it's far dirtier and less inteligent than a monkey . Monkey has a negative connotation only as far as the noise it makes and how it moves around . Pig was used by Nazis to describe their victims as well by Islamic bombers who see Jews as sons of both pigs and monkeys


Also, I've never seen anyone saying 'Nadal not only looks like a pig, but also thinks like a pig'.


Well I have never seen one of them however ligthly describe someone with pale skin and blue eyes as a pig

ezekiel
11-07-2006, 10:04 PM
I never did get why Nadal is called a pig, but that doesn't change the fact taht this Pashanski guy is racist :shrug:

So you are not bothered that a top player gets called a pig regularly but you are ready to castigate a challenger player few have even heard of for pretty much the same thing if not less

And shame on you for even defending him, Ezekiel :o

I condemned him for at least being rude and ignorant , I am just not ready to go any further before knowing the context

bonkers186
11-07-2006, 10:21 PM
I'm amazed that some try to defend this guy, using all kinds of scientific gibberish. What a wonderful world we live in :help:.

Grofica
11-07-2006, 10:31 PM
In Serbia lives a lot of diferent nations and Serbia is not ethinc clean!! Half are Serbs and other half are Hungarians, Montenegers, Croats, Bulgarians, Macedonians, people from Romania, from Bosnia,Serbians Muslims............etc, there are people who don't see them as Serbs but are serbian citizen, so it is very ignorat to say that in Serbia live only Serbs!!

As for Boris last name I don't know where it comes from, but you have Serbs from all parts of Balkan with different last names which are not ending on ic, I am a Serb but my last name doesn't finish on ic :shrug:and I know why is that, so I assume Boris knows origin of his last name, too.

I don't aprove of Boris act at all but I am very dissapointed bacuse a lot of people generalize it on all Serbs and say stupidity about Serbia, and most of them don't even know where Serbia acctualy is.

Sjengster
11-07-2006, 10:57 PM
Hey sjengster, do you a have source for this. I'll be really dissapointed if its true, i used to really like Janko :sad:

Before you get your hopes down, so to speak, I have to admit my source is an old thread I remember reading about three years ago on WTAWorld.... I think it was in the ATP forum they had over there? Or maybe it was another board entirely.... I should try and find it. But I do remember there being a minor stir over it, which led some people to imaginatively rename him "Snotso" Tipsarevic.

BTW, to ezekiel: you'll notice I specifically said "some Serbian players", so as to avoid making a sweeping statement about the mindset of all Serbs. Grofica just confirmed what I thought, that there are many different ethnicities and cultures within the Balkans (which in part helps to explain the repeated wars, I suppose); ergo, if people were more racist in that region it would hardly be due to a lack of exposure to other races/peoples, which is what was suggested in this thread.

Frooty_Bazooty
11-07-2006, 11:26 PM
Awwww well I consider you reliable so even if you dont remember the details exactly, there's no smoke without fire :sad: . That really disappoints me about him, he's gone down in my books :banghead:

Sjengster
11-07-2006, 11:31 PM
Awwww well I consider you reliable so even if you dont remember the details exactly, there's no smoke without fire :sad: . That really disappoints me about him, he's gone down in my books :banghead:

http://rebecca.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=atp2&action=display&thread=1058929612

Of course there's no actual source for the comments, but I'd take this poster at her word too: http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=5569068&postcount=255

OK, I think I tried a little too hard here to dredge up comments that are over three years old. Now I come to think of it, the Tipsy One is also the man with the rose tattoo bearing the Dostoyevsky quote "Beauty will save the world" - an odd mixture of qualities, that's for sure.

Frooty_Bazooty
11-08-2006, 12:37 AM
thanks for the link sjeng.

'I know there are some homosexual male players, but I try not to have any contact with them'

maybe if he named names, i might forgive him :p

guille&tati4life
11-13-2006, 01:48 PM
http://rebecca.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=atp2&action=display&thread=1058929612

Of course there's no actual source for the comments, but I'd take this poster at her word too: http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=5569068&postcount=255

OK, I think I tried a little too hard here to dredge up comments that are over three years old. Now I come to think of it, the Tipsy One is also the man with the rose tattoo bearing the Dostoyevsky quote "Beauty will save the world" - an odd mixture of qualities, that's for sure.

I agree with your last statement, I don't think that Janko seems at all racist, things like that tattoo would make me think he is anything but. Maybe these statements are true, but there was no source given and i don't think it fits in with everything else i know about Janko. So, I'm not believing it.

As for Pashasnki, :retard:

shotgun
11-13-2006, 01:52 PM
The story was that Tipsarevic said those statements when he wasn't even 18 years old then. No big deal.

guille&tati4life
11-13-2006, 01:58 PM
I guess not, either he is reformed :angel: or never said them. :D
thanks shotgun, i didn't know when they were supposed to have been said

Raquel
11-13-2006, 04:05 PM
Ok, just making a clearer translation:

First he says "black people have better physical conditions to stand high temperatures, but white people are more intelligent."
:rolleyes:

The nicest thing you can say is he is uninformed.

I'm not surprised to see Boris's fellow Serbs in this thread coming out and saying his comments were wrong but it's interesting to see people say Serbia is very un-PC compared to some Western European countries. I remember reading an interview with Serb player Jelena Jankovic on WTAWorld and some of the questions she was asked were a bit of a shock. I know it's a tabloid but even the British tabloids wouldn't ask some of these questions - http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=265658.

MissPovaFan
02-17-2007, 11:18 PM
After his apalling behaviour in today´s qualifying match where he threw water all over kids, kept hitting balls off court, started fishing with his opponent with serves, he finally snapped, smashed the ball high into the sky on MP, left the court before some guy about 3 rows behind me decided to aim a full pepsi bottle at him from the top of the stand! It came within inches of hitting him and would have definitely knocked him out cold! I just wonder what would have happened if he had hit Pashanski! Is this sort of thing needed in tennis?

TheBoiledEgg
02-17-2007, 11:20 PM
it probably would have knocked some sense into the racist idiot.

but this sort of behaviour is unexceptable.

Carito_90
02-17-2007, 11:53 PM
You have to admit it was funny. :p

*Viva Chile*
02-18-2007, 12:01 AM
he is the worst prick I've ever seen playing, is annoying when he starts with his antics, even Däni Köllerer is a lovely guy next to him. I don't want to congratulate the person who (nearly) hit Pashanski, but I saw him in Viña treating as cheater to Vasallo Arguello in the middle of the match and making the same stupid things you related, I really want to punch him at the moment :mad:

amierin
02-18-2007, 12:45 AM
Where is he trying to qualify? Not to condone the behavior but it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

gusman890
02-18-2007, 12:48 AM
wow..what a tool.

savesthedizzle
02-18-2007, 01:01 AM
Too bad they missed. :sad:

casabe
02-18-2007, 01:06 AM
I was there (he trew me water). Just behind his chair. I can tell you what happened, I think is funny. I like the guy, I saw him last year in Bs As when he losts against Volandri. Me and a friend were cheering for him. After a good point, I told him "we love you boris" but in spanish. All the people start to laught. He doesnt understand the language. Then when he was sitting in his chair we started to say "Booooooooooo-ris" (but again we were cheering for him). Then all the kids started to bother and he got completely mad. But I think he is a little crazy.

The guy that tried to hit him....firstly I thougth he was some kind of director that was talking to him very angry. In the MP, im pretty sure he wanted to him some people with the ball.

ASP0315
02-18-2007, 02:00 AM
Pashanaki the new badboy of Tennis. :lol: I wish he could have been hit so hard. What a joke this guy is.

Sjengster
02-18-2007, 02:03 AM
The only time I've seen Pashanski's temper on display (well, I haven't seen him in action too many times) was when he lost 2 and 2 to Volandri in the first round of Hamburg last year; he was already down 4-0 in the second set, then moments after he held his serve to make it 4-1, he slammed the spare ball violently away with his racquet and started berating himself as he had been doing for the whole match. And I presume everyone remembers the alleged "monkey" epithet from last year?

Carito_90
02-18-2007, 02:06 AM
Where is he trying to qualify? Not to condone the behavior but it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Buenos Aires, Copa Telmex. :)

Corey Feldman
02-18-2007, 02:16 AM
You have to admit it was funny. :pYes, it sounds funny :p
its a pity the bottle missed his head :p

Shabazza
02-18-2007, 03:00 AM
Too bad they missed. :sad:

You're joking right? Ever being hit in the head by a hard thrown full can? Guess not!
No on-court antics justify something like this.

ExcaliburII
02-18-2007, 03:42 AM
Hey I was there man, Pashanski threw me water in the change of side I think it was 1-4 in the second.
HE did several things:
I remember this:
GRabbing his (dick?) when referee talking to him
Insulting ball boys
Insulting lineman from one part of the court to the other.
Throwing water to people watching the match (I was just behind his seat)
Throwing bottles to some kids when the match ended.
Throwing the ball to the sky on the match point.
Making signs that the umpire sucked dick with his racket (jajaj)
Insulting people watching the match


That are the only ones I remember

ExcaliburII
02-18-2007, 03:43 AM
I was there (he trew me water). Just behind his chair. I can tell you what happened, I think is funny. I like the guy, I saw him last year in Bs As when he losts against Volandri. Me and a friend were cheering for him. After a good point, I told him "we love you boris" but in spanish. All the people start to laught. He doesnt understand the language. Then when he was sitting in his chair we started to say "Booooooooooo-ris" (but again we were cheering for him). Then all the kids started to bother and he got completely mad. But I think he is a little crazy.

The guy that tried to hit him....firstly I thougth he was some kind of director that was talking to him very angry. In the MP, im pretty sure he wanted to him some people with the ball.

Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

sondraj06
02-18-2007, 03:57 AM
Hey I was there man, Pashanski threw me water in the change of side I think it was 1-4 in the second.
HE did several things:
I remember this:
GRabbing his (dick?) when referee talking to him
Insulting ball boys
Insulting lineman from one part of the court to the other.
Throwing water to people watching the match (I was just behind his seat)
Throwing bottles to some kids when the match ended.
Throwing the ball to the sky on the match point.
Making signs that the umpire sucked dick with his racket (jajaj)
Insulting people watching the match


That are the only ones I remember

Yeah if that was any other sport the fans would have jumped the stands and rushed him.

Carito_90
02-18-2007, 04:11 AM
Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Allez-Alejo
02-18-2007, 04:13 AM
If he actually was doing those things, then way did the umpire not assess point/game penalties or disqualify him. If he did not, then he is also to blame. Yes he may be an idiot and offensive on the court, but throwing an object with the intent to injure is assault. Booing/cursing him is fine, but trying to injure a player is just uncalled for and dumb.

ExcaliburII
02-18-2007, 04:22 AM
If he actually was doing those things, then way did the umpire not assess point/game penalties or disqualify him. If he did not, then he is also to blame. Yes he may be an idiot and offensive on the court, but throwing an object with the intent to injure is assault. Booing/cursing him is fine, but trying to injure a player is just uncalled for and dumb.

I thought the same during the match.
For example when Boris threw the water at the crowd the umpire clamed the crowd and did not say anything to Pashanski.
His microphone did not function correctly and couldnt calm down the crowd (which wasn`t out of place until Pashanski started insulting), and yes he didnt put any type of warning to Boris.

zicofirol
02-18-2007, 04:39 AM
Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

lmao!!! you should do an MTF get together, have your sign and everything, lmao...

ps. did he throw alot of water, I cant believe no one threw water back, or jumped him, if he would of thrown water, I would of bought a coke and thrown it at him , so it gets all sticky, lmao...

ExcaliburII
02-18-2007, 04:43 AM
it was a little bit he turned back and pressed the bottle throwing some water, about 50cm3

brent-o
02-18-2007, 05:15 AM
Hey I was there man, Pashanski threw me water in the change of side I think it was 1-4 in the second.
HE did several things:
I remember this:
GRabbing his (dick?) when referee talking to him
Insulting ball boys
Insulting lineman from one part of the court to the other.
Throwing water to people watching the match (I was just behind his seat)
Throwing bottles to some kids when the match ended.
Throwing the ball to the sky on the match point.
Making signs that the umpire sucked dick with his racket (jajaj)
Insulting people watching the match


That are the only ones I remember

Wow, how did the umpire not disqualify him and hand his opponent the match?

Action Jackson
02-18-2007, 06:45 AM
Please next year have Pashanski play a Croat at the Aussie Open and let him try these antics.

This is not surprising that Boris was up to these shenanigans.

R.Federer
02-18-2007, 06:47 AM
Well the umpire really has the authority to control and if he doesn't disqualify players like this he should also be held accountable.

If the Pepsi guy hadn't got Boris on court, someone would have found him later and done the same thing. But that doesn't excuse it, because it could have been a knife and not pepsi.

jazar
02-18-2007, 09:16 AM
it sounds funny, but it would have been an international incident had it hit him

its.like.that
02-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Nice thread :retard:

What sort of response are you looking for exactly? :scratch:

its.like.that
02-18-2007, 02:24 PM
Hey I was there man, Pashanski threw me water in the change of side I think it was 1-4 in the second.
HE did several things:
I remember this:
GRabbing his (dick?) when referee talking to him
Insulting ball boys
Insulting lineman from one part of the court to the other.
Throwing water to people watching the match (I was just behind his seat)
Throwing bottles to some kids when the match ended.
Throwing the ball to the sky on the match point.
Making signs that the umpire sucked dick with his racket (jajaj)
Insulting people watching the match


That are the only ones I remember

:haha::haha::haha:

Well done Boris. :yeah:

belco
02-18-2007, 02:26 PM
Too bad they missed. :sad:

:lol: :hug:

victor_gospo
02-18-2007, 02:38 PM
To let things get so out of hand is the umpire's fault and the organizers

Mateya
02-18-2007, 03:10 PM
Grabbing his dick when referee talking to him


:lol: I can imagine that...lol :rolls:

MissPovaFan
02-18-2007, 05:31 PM
I was there (he trew me water). Just behind his chair. I can tell you what happened, I think is funny. I like the guy, I saw him last year in Bs As when he losts against Volandri. Me and a friend were cheering for him. After a good point, I told him "we love you boris" but in spanish. All the people start to laught. He doesnt understand the language. Then when he was sitting in his chair we started to say "Booooooooooo-ris" (but again we were cheering for him). Then all the kids started to bother and he got completely mad. But I think he is a little crazy.

The guy that tried to hit him....firstly I thougth he was some kind of director that was talking to him very angry. In the MP, im pretty sure he wanted to him some people with the ball.

hmmm did we see the same bottle throwing incident? The one Caro and I saw was on the opposite stand to where his chair was - some guy about 5 rows from the back in the corner threw the pepsi bottle at him from between the gap of the stand - he had already left the court though and was walking through the gap on his way to the locker room.

I really don´t understand his antics as he surely had the capability to win that match if he put his mind to it.

+alonso
02-18-2007, 06:24 PM
:rolleyes: What an annoying guy! I've seen him behave like an idiot more than once!

:lol: @ the guy who tried to shout him with the bottle :p

joeb_uk
02-18-2007, 08:16 PM
"he threw water all over kids"


Damn, and there was me thinking (from the title) Pashanski got a deserved beating! A shame he didn't get KOed by the bottle :( It is definately needed when you have assholes like this guy, the only way he is going to stop is if some guy chins the bastard.

+alonso
02-18-2007, 08:33 PM
Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

:haha: :haha: :haha:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Sjengster
02-18-2007, 09:22 PM
You wouldn't care to translate for the ignorant among us, would you?

Neely
02-18-2007, 09:40 PM
Is this sort of thing needed in tennis?
Pashanski could smash 1000 balls and throw hundreds of liter of water over people, it would not even a little bit justify throwing bottles at him at any time. I hope it was <only> a full plastic bottle, and not a glass bottle - or I would not even want to imagine what could have happened if you hit somebody from far distance at the head. Like such asshole in football stadiums who throw hard pieces at the players kicking the corner or at the goalkeeper :retard: I hope I understood the incident right, but this sounds like worst spectator behaviour.

nicole_s
02-18-2007, 09:47 PM
After his apalling behaviour in today´s qualifying match where he threw water all over kids, kept hitting balls off court, started fishing with his opponent with serves, he finally snapped, smashed the ball high into the sky on MP, left the court

:lol: this is kind of funny, but his behavior is unacceptable. Why didn`t umpire do something??

Hendu
02-19-2007, 03:25 AM
Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

for those who don't understand:

are you the "boludo" who shouted "Boo rissss" the whole match behind me?


small world...

fco253
02-19-2007, 10:29 AM
Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

I was at the match thinking the same thing... who could be cheering for him? when he was behaving like that and playing against Edu, a likeable local player.

I saw the incident more like Paul, the thrown plastic bottle was not even close, he had passed that spot with margin...

Throwing a bottle was out of order, no matter the circumstances, but he deserved some Coke spilled back on him as he was leaving...

He should be suspended by ATP for throwing water to the espectators ... he can start a riot in a country like Argentina for doing that sort of thing... gladly the tennis people are not the most aggressive crowd... oh, and the umpire should be suspended also, no authority at all...

MissPovaFan
02-19-2007, 01:55 PM
Pashanski could smash 1000 balls and throw hundreds of liter of water over people, it would not even a little bit justify throwing bottles at him at any time. I hope it was <only> a full plastic bottle, and not a glass bottle - or I would not even want to imagine what could have happened if you hit somebody from far distance at the head. Like such asshole in football stadiums who throw hard pieces at the players kicking the corner or at the goalkeeper :retard: I hope I understood the incident right, but this sounds like worst spectator behaviour.

I didnt see the plastic bottle incident but did see the pepsi one - that was very close to him. It wasnt a glass bottle it was plastic and half full but it was thrown from the top of the stand and I think would have caused him an injury if it had struck his head. I doubt very much anyone in authority saw the incident though to be honest.

:lol: this is kind of funny, but his behavior is unacceptable. Why didn`t umpire do something??

Like said above the umpires mic wasnt working so he had no control at all.

I was at the match thinking the same thing... who could be cheering for him? when he was behaving like that and playing against Edu, a likeable local player.

I saw the incident more like Paul, the thrown plastic bottle was not even close, he had passed that spot with margin...

Throwing a bottle was out of order, no matter the circumstances, but he deserved some Coke spilled back on him as he was leaving...

He should be suspended by ATP for throwing water to the espectators ... he can start a riot in a country like Argentina for doing that sort of thing... gladly the tennis people are not the most aggressive crowd... oh, and the umpire should be suspended also, no authority at all...

They definitely werent an aggressive crowd - he was just getting wound up by kids - it was his fault and he started the problems.

casabe
02-19-2007, 03:34 PM
Vos sos el boludo que grito todo el partido Boo rissss atras mio?

not the one who started it, but sometimes yes...

casabe
02-19-2007, 03:42 PM
hmmm did we see the same bottle throwing incident? The one Caro and I saw was on the opposite stand to where his chair was - some guy about 5 rows from the back in the corner threw the pepsi bottle at him from between the gap of the stand - he had already left the court though and was walking through the gap on his way to the locker room.

I really don´t understand his antics as he surely had the capability to win that match if he put his mind to it.

No I havent see that, when he was lefting the court I was trying that Schwank signed the cap of my friend´s brother.

I agree he has much more tennis that Schwank, if he can controle his mind.

joeb_uk
02-19-2007, 03:48 PM
Pashanski could smash 1000 balls and throw hundreds of liter of water over people, it would not even a little bit justify throwing bottles at him at any time. I hope it was <only> a full plastic bottle, and not a glass bottle - or I would not even want to imagine what could have happened if you hit somebody from far distance at the head. Like such asshole in football stadiums who throw hard pieces at the players kicking the corner or at the goalkeeper :retard: I hope I understood the incident right, but this sounds like worst spectator behaviour.

Yes, but you can't compare those situations (because it is not often you have some asshole who is abusing the crowd, and also children in the crowd). 99% of the time at football matches, it is just some pyscho fan who is pissed off by his team and it isn't deserved.

I can assure you though (even if you think its wrong for someone to throw a bottle at him), if the pashanki asshole had been hit he would seriously consider his behavior and probably try to control himself next time. I have see n things happen like that many times, either a beatdown or some violent act and the sportsman will question his behavior far more than slapping a fine or ban on him, would do nothing. Maybe not needed, and not the most appropiate behavior of course within sport, but it's far more effective.

alfonsojose
02-19-2007, 04:13 PM
WTF was wrong with the umpire :mad: ? It seems there's a disturbing trend to let tennis be like football. Sooner or later, somebody will pay a huge prize for such a mistake

Mistaflava
02-19-2007, 05:52 PM
Hey I was there man, Pashanski threw me water in the change of side I think it was 1-4 in the second.
HE did several things:
I remember this:
GRabbing his (dick?) when referee talking to him
Insulting ball boys
Insulting lineman from one part of the court to the other.
Throwing water to people watching the match (I was just behind his seat)
Throwing bottles to some kids when the match ended.
Throwing the ball to the sky on the match point.
Making signs that the umpire sucked dick with his racket (jajaj)
Insulting people watching the match


That are the only ones I remember




:haha:


That's amazing...finally some life in this sport. :worship:

*Ljubica*
02-19-2007, 06:43 PM
WTF was wrong with the umpire :mad: ? It seems there's a disturbing trend to let tennis be like football. Sooner or later, somebody will pay a huge prize for such a mistake

I agree. I don't care what Pashanski did, or didn't do, or where the incident took place, crowd behaviour like this is unacceptable in my opinion. If incidents like this occur too often, they will start to need those cages :rolleyes: they have at football matches. It's inexcusable and not a laughing matter at all in my opinion.

shotgun
02-21-2007, 12:03 AM
As much as Julio Silva really looks like a monkey (and not at all because of his skin color), the one who seems to think like a monkey is Pashanski.

GlennMirnyi
02-21-2007, 01:07 AM
WTF was wrong with the umpire :mad: ? It seems there's a disturbing trend to let tennis be like football. Sooner or later, somebody will pay a huge prize for such a mistake

I agree with you there. Time for the referees to be harder against players.

El Legenda
02-21-2007, 01:13 AM
Please next year have Pashanski play a Croat at the Aussie Open and let him try these antics.

This is not surprising that Boris was up to these shenanigans.

or let him play in Zargeb next year or Umag this year. :lol:

Nathaliia
07-26-2008, 09:15 PM
Tough few hours for Serbian players, Djokovic loses, Troicki loses, Bozoljac loses and then Pashanski gets cheated by an umpire (btw it's the same one who didn't shake hands with Ivanovic at AO) :sad:. I let myself quote smth from my website based on what spectators told me about this match.

It's never good when the umpire steals the tennis show, and especially it's not good when the same umpire would be described on this site yet again. Let's not focus on the name then. Björn Phau from Germany beat Boris Pashanski from Serbia 6-4 7-6. The Serbian player after a bad beginning (0-3) started to catch up, when he got really mad for the first time. He asked an umpire to check one ball, and she, instead of doing it just for the sake of it, said she's sure where the ball had landed and didn't move from the chair. Pashanski argued and shouted. The similar story repeated a few times in different match moments, until the supervisor was called. Pashanski encouraged him, "If the ball was in, you can call me an idiot until I die!" He also fell in disbelief and claimed the score was irrelevant to him as beating umpire's wrong decisions was beyond his abilities. Serbian player asked rhetorical questions to the umpire, such as, "What's wrong with youuuuuuuu?" The crowd at the beginning kept booing him down, until they realized there was something really wrong going on, and eventually took Pashanski's side. One elder man cheered him with "Beat the German," against half-Indonesian Phau. At the end of the match Pashanski invited the umpire to the court with words, "Now you play tennis and I umpire." Invitation was denied.

Alonsofz
07-26-2008, 09:22 PM
The umpire :worship:
No-one should give a fuck to that racist.

finishingmove
07-26-2008, 09:25 PM
disgrace

shawshank
07-26-2008, 09:45 PM
Actualy, I was an line umpire durring this match and I can tell you that there was no mistake from chair umpire. I agree that this decision was controversial, but the umpire made a good decision. Anyone can tell you that what was Pashanski doing was more than stupid and rude. He got two codes, and should have received more. And the public was more on Phau side anyway. How can you be on somebody's side if he shouts to public: "shut up". C'mon! It is really not easy to be an umpire on Pashanki's matches. Anyway, the match was cool, with all the drama we would like to see.

Neely
07-26-2008, 10:00 PM
btw it's the same one who didn't shake hands with Ivanovic at AO
Do I remember the wrong match, or wasn't it that Ivanovic refused to shake the umpire's hand?

scoobs
07-26-2008, 10:02 PM
So who was the umpire?

Nathaliia
07-26-2008, 10:04 PM
Do I remember the wrong match, or wasn't it that Ivanovic refused to shake the umpire's hand?
Yes, I wrote it in an awkward way. Refusing handshakes is not what happens to top players often.

Like the previous poster wrote, Pashanski is a very problematic player, we all know this, but this umpire is unfortunately also very problematic. I say unfortunately, because as a person she is incredibly nice and friendly, and she has a great contact with everyone except players on court.

Anyway, I don't want to judge an umpire or Pashanski, just posting for everyone to read what happened today :).

Tomek.
07-26-2008, 10:07 PM
was is Gabi Załoga Nathii?

amierin
07-26-2008, 10:43 PM
Pashanski is a racist. I don't care what happens as long as he loses.

Ilovetheblues_86
07-27-2008, 01:46 AM
Poor Pashanski, the most bashed player ever...

Snoo Foo
07-27-2008, 01:55 AM
what did pashanski do to make everyone so angry?

finishingmove
07-27-2008, 02:13 AM
better close this thread cuz its a magnet for bashers

Fabio83
07-27-2008, 03:05 AM
Pfff...another Pashanski thread ending the same way as all others? Please talk about tennis, the other stuff was 3 years ago.

Pasha :worship: , only second to Crazy Dani

Ivanatis
07-27-2008, 03:56 AM
what did pashanski do to make everyone so angry?

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=89790

VolandriFan
07-27-2008, 04:36 AM
I could never go against Boris. :D

Snoo Foo
07-27-2008, 04:40 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=89790

Ah. I see. Thanks.

Henry Chinaski
07-27-2008, 05:19 AM
I'm just about the most liberal, pc, commie, pinko-homo-sympathising terrorist-loving freedom-hating scumbag that ever lived but there's something about the whole "Pashanski is a racist asshole" thing that really rubs me up the wrong way.

fast_clay
07-27-2008, 05:24 AM
I'm about just about the most liberal, pc, commie, pinko-homo-sympathising terrorist-loving freedom-hating scumbag that ever lived but there's something about the whole "Pashanski is a racist asshole" thing that really rubs me up the wrong way.

did you just get home too mate...?

i am hearin ya... thats all :yeah:

classic 14th century witch hunt...

Henry Chinaski
07-27-2008, 05:27 AM
haha. yup just arrived after a serious session. well spotted. you've been in Ireland too long man.

*snowflake*
07-27-2008, 08:21 AM
If it was someone else maybe i'd give a damn but Pashanski? Please, i'm yet to see that man keep his mouth shut.

Sebby
07-27-2008, 08:40 AM
Who is Pashanski and what is a challenger ? :umbrella:

VolandriFan
07-27-2008, 09:11 AM
Who is challenger and what is a Pashanski?

finishingmove
07-27-2008, 09:17 AM
pashanski... sounds like some kind of a fish

Mateya
07-27-2008, 09:40 AM
:rolls:

CooCooCachoo
07-27-2008, 12:25 PM
Poor Pashanski, the most bashed player ever...

Nothing poor about it other than his behaviour.

fast_clay
07-27-2008, 01:14 PM
the game needs characters like pashanski... no one has stirred so much negative emotion from the people since jeff tarango... certainly, pashanski has large shoes to fill here, but admirably, he is showing he is well up to the task...

even despite him playing mostly challengers, the ATP have made a massive miscalculation by not making boris a poster boy for the new and improved ATP world tour...

Action Jackson
08-09-2008, 08:01 PM
Too bad this wasn't loaded onto youtube.

Rafalover15
08-09-2008, 08:17 PM
No youtube link ???

Burrow
08-09-2008, 08:23 PM
After I always see this idiot saying "pointless bump" etc etc he is doing it himself, more than once in the last couple of days.

Pot kettle black.

Snowwy
08-09-2008, 08:28 PM
After I always see this idiot saying "pointless bump" etc etc he is doing it himself, more than once in the last couple of days.

Pot kettle black.

He always does it, hes one of the most disrespectful posters on the board but always gets away with it..Ill probably be the one that doesnt ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-09-2008, 08:32 PM
Did you forget that most mtf members are offensive bigots?

True and most are Fedtards as well.

No one deserves to be physically hurt for just insulting a few clowns.

MagicMilan
08-09-2008, 09:08 PM
moron :retard:

Lurker011
08-09-2008, 09:28 PM
there's no need for racism anywhere,whatever treatment that racist gets,it's well deserved!

groundstroke
08-09-2008, 10:36 PM
Shame he didn't get hit.

but-it's-ok
08-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Pashanski was shameful,the Umpire was shameful,the spectator was shameful. All involved in this blot on tennis should be severely punished. But then its ATP,nothing will be done:rolleyes:

Misterman
08-10-2008, 12:26 AM
Too bad they missed. :sad:

Hey physically attacking players at this tournament is awful.
Save that shit for Davis Cup ! ;)

Black Adam
08-10-2008, 12:55 AM
Why does this always happen to the nice guys? :shrug: :lol: Seriously this anti-tennis deserves to be taught a lesson in public.

MILOS
08-12-2008, 02:08 PM
Well,at least its always interesting to watch his matches

Vida
08-12-2008, 02:27 PM
wow, I had no idea he's such a jerk.

BalkanBoy
08-12-2008, 06:37 PM
They should do him a favor and suspend him for a time. It's in his life's interest!

Machiavelli
05-14-2009, 10:54 AM
Amazing stuff from this Ch legend in Zagreb yesterday. During his 2nd round match against ''all-serve'' german giant Daniel Brands, Pashanski started an arguemnt with a spectator during the match, and it continued afterwards, it might have ended up in a fight if their hadn't been tournament staff;

The story goes like this:

Their were few people in the stands, it was a 2nd round match, no cratian players involved, played during the day, only gamblers attend such matches, and a few tennis fanatics; the gamblers out there were all on Brands(good run in Munich last week), trying to mess up Pashanki from the start as he is well known for his bad temper; The match starts, Brands hits a risky 2nd serve, Pashanski returns the ball, Brands hits a lucky net winner and Boris starts to argue with the ref that the ball was wide''; the ref says:'' Sorry Boris but you should have stopped earlier; then Boris answers ''you know shit man''; at that point the fans started to nerve Boris, he noticed this guy in the stands who was constantly chearing for Brands and drinking beer and smoking like a mad man, after a bad UE he turns to this guy and says ''go smoke some serious shit you jerk'', then he goes to the ref and says ''this guy is up there smoking, the smoke is disturbing me he might be a druggie, remove him please.'' The ref asks everybody to calm down, then the guy stands up and says:'' i will stop smoking Boris, just for you my man'' and he gets a big applause from the crowd; Boris saves two 2bp later on and takes the 1st set and says to the guy:''eat this shit you moron'', the guy stays calm and says to Pashanski:'' i have nothing against you Boris, i like Brands better, he is better then you, you know my money is on him''; then they calmed down and Boris won teh match cause BRands has a worse bh the Karlovic and Pashanski just pushed the ball to his bh side all the time and won in the end; story continues when Pashanski while leaving the court shouts to the same guy:''go home dude and lose some more money please'', the guy gets fired up and replies: ''wait a minute Boris, are you saying that I am not allowed to chear for Brands(or any of your opponents)? What was that on court behaviour from you man? If you can not handle the pressure then don't play; Pashanski goes totally mad ans says:'' you come here, drink beer, you smoke, you bet against me, if i see you next time i will call the supervisor and tell him you gamble and ask him to remove you from the stands''; the guy answered ''what about you Boris? You didn't gamble when you retired in a tie breaker when it was 0:6 for your opponent? How many matches have you sold?'' Boris starts to act like Rambo, the other guy was prepared for a fight and then they split them up, amazing scenes...... :worship:

One more thing, just so that this does not turn into cro vs. serbia argument, Bozoljac plays here too, and he has a lot of fans, even during his match against Dodig(croatian) the crowd was neutral, chearing for both players; it is all about Pashanki a known racist, and jerk on court....

Byrd
05-14-2009, 10:58 AM
I take it you was on brands then :lol:

Mishka Logvi
05-14-2009, 11:00 AM
Good stuff Boris :lol: I seen hin in Donetsk in 2007 oone match and Pashanski was quiet
I don't know that this guy so crazy
i bet on Boris yesterday :)

Machiavelli
05-14-2009, 11:02 AM
I take it you was on brands then :lol:

I was on Brands too(better odds), but small stake, just for fun while watching this two clowns; the guy in the stands was a bit over the line, but Boris acted like a crazy man on some heavy shit...

Action Jackson
05-14-2009, 11:04 AM
Mad Boris, funny enough he has played doubles with Koellerer, too bad no footage of this exists.

Machiavelli
05-14-2009, 11:08 AM
Mad Boris, funny enough he has played doubles with Koellerer, too bad no footage of this exists.

I didn't have my camera with me, and my cell phone isn't the best for taking photos; some guys captured the rumble in the end, hope it comes out somewhere...

Pashanski wil have a rough time against a mediocre Hocevar on Friday, that is a fact....

finishingmove
05-14-2009, 11:09 AM
helluva fun when boris is around

Action Jackson
05-14-2009, 11:10 AM
There was the monkey comments about Julio Silva. The one in Buenos Aires, where the crowd got interaction and threw a drink at him. This Pashanski has some interesting encounters.

petar_pan
05-14-2009, 11:17 AM
Amazing stuff from this Ch legend in Zagreb yesterday. During his 2nd round match against ''all-serve'' german giant Daniel Brands, Pashanski started an arguemnt with a spectator during the match, and it continued afterwards, it might have ended up in a fight if their hadn't been tournament staff;

The story goes like this:

Their were few people in the stands, it was a 2nd round match, no cratian players involved, played during the day, only gamblers attend such matches, and a few tennis fanatics; the gamblers out there were all on Brands(good run in Munich last week), trying to mess up Pashanki from the start as he is well known for his bad temper; The match starts, Brands hits a risky 2nd serve, Pashanski returns the ball, Brands hits a lucky net winner and Boris starts to argue with the ref that the ball was wide''; the ref says:'' Sorry Boris but you should have stopped earlier; then Boris answers ''you know shit man''; at that point the fans started to nerve Boris, he noticed this guy in the stands who was constantly chearing for Brands and drinking beer and smoking like a mad man, after a bad UE he turns to this guy and says ''go smoke some serious shit you jerk'', then he goes to the ref and says ''this guy is up there smoking, the smoke is disturbing me he might be a druggie, remove him please.'' The ref asks everybody to calm down, then the guy stands up and says:'' i will stop smoking Boris, just for you my man'' and he gets a big applause from the crowd; Boris saves two 2bp later on and takes the 1st set and says to the guy:''eat this shit you moron'', the guy stays calm and says to Pashanski:'' i have nothing against you Boris, i like Brands better, he is better then you, you know my money is on him''; then they calmed down and Boris won teh match cause BRands has a worse bh the Karlovic and Pashanski just pushed the ball to his bh side all the time and won in the end; story continues when Pashanski while leaving the court shouts to the same guy:''go home dude and lose some more money please'', the guy gets fired up and replies: ''wait a minute Boris, are you saying that I am not allowed to chear for Brands(or any of your opponents)? What was that on court behaviour from you man? If you can not handle the pressure then don't play; Pashanski goes totally mad ans says:'' you come here, drink beer, you smoke, you bet against me, if i see you next time i will call the supervisor and tell him you gamble and ask him to remove you from the stands''; the guy answered ''what about you Boris? You didn't gamble when you retired in a tie breaker when it was 0:6 for your opponent? How many matches have you sold?'' Boris starts to act like Rambo, the other guy was prepred for a fight and then they split them up, amazing scenes...... :worship:

One more thing, just so that this does not turn into cro vs. serbia argument, Bozoljac plays here too, and he has a lot of fans, even during his match against Dodig(croatian) the crowd was neutral, chearing for both players; it is all about Pashanki a known racist, and jerk on court....

hahahaha.i can't fucking believe.

betowiec
05-14-2009, 11:53 AM
great
boris is the best

Horatio Caine
05-14-2009, 12:20 PM
:haha: You really couldn't make it up!! :eek:

Funnily enough I saw Pashanski at a challenger event some 4-5 years back and he was a quiet, fairly controlled character (also off the court). I guess that either I didn't see that other side to him on that particular day, or maybe since then he was gradually turning into the idiot that he is these days. Perhaps he was to spend too much time in the company of crazy Dani. :spit:

BaselineSmash
05-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Excellent courtside report. Hilarious stuff. :D

It's a shame that Pashanski is such a bigot, otherwise we could laugh with him instead of at him.

I wouldn't be against having more of this kind of stuff between fans and players. At the USO '01, when Rafter was down two-sets-to-love, an Aussie shouted out, "Do you wanna go home??" Rafter took it in good spirit, laughed, took the third set, and played well at the end even though he lost.

its.like.that
05-14-2009, 03:44 PM
I like this Boris.

Much more entertaining than daisies like Djokovic and Murray.

Time Violation
05-14-2009, 03:55 PM
Pašanski is an embarrassment.

miura
05-14-2009, 03:57 PM
Haha sounds like an interesting turn of events :lol:

fast_clay
05-14-2009, 04:03 PM
The quicker pashanski makes the top 20, the quicker the ATP goes about recouping some serious sponsorship $$$...

the guy is a potential mint...

CooCooCachoo
05-14-2009, 04:11 PM
He is an embarrassment, but unfortunately he has chosen all his peak moments when I was not there. Whenever I saw him, he has been bland, restrained and boring :(

Certinfy
05-14-2009, 04:13 PM
This is the guy that can beat Nadal on clay. FACT

Nathaliia
05-14-2009, 07:33 PM
damn fantastic :worship: I'd pay to watch it.

w78dexon_y
05-14-2009, 07:39 PM
damn fantastic :worship: I'd pay to watch it.

:haha:

Sapeod
05-14-2009, 07:51 PM
Pashanski doing what he does best :rocker2:

maxxo
05-14-2009, 08:01 PM
had a couple of pints with that guy from the stands day before this happened, great guy.
we will all be there again tommorow, should be interesting

GlennMirnyi
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
Awesome stuff!

scarecrows
05-14-2009, 08:34 PM
had a couple of pints with that guy from the stands day before this happened, great guy.
we will all be there again tommorow, should be interesting

a report will be appreciated :wavey:

Henry Chinaski
05-14-2009, 11:41 PM
this event sounds fucking awesome. like gamblers lounge in real life.

pashanski is cool. might have to put him back in my avvie.

Har-Tru
05-14-2009, 11:47 PM
did they speak in that tongue Serbians and Croats share?

RIboy
05-14-2009, 11:52 PM
did they speak in that tongue Serbians and Croats share?

yes

B.Bojan
05-15-2009, 02:47 AM
:lol: Can you imagine him commenting on the matches on tv... :lol: Omg, that would be awesome :lol:

Machiavelli
05-15-2009, 10:25 AM
11.45 ŠRC Mladost (Zagreb): R.Hocevar vs. B.Pashanski

Heading there to watch the match of the year, if Boris survives the crowd today, then he is ready to challenge the one and only Rafa Nadal...

All in on Hocevar as the wiseman say....

shotgun
05-15-2009, 01:45 PM
Hocevar should get some support from the Slovenian community in Zagreb. :p

Smasher
05-15-2009, 02:01 PM
Hocevar def. Pashanski 6-3 4-6 7-6 (6) :lol:
It must have been an intense tiebreak, can't wait to hear Machievelli's comments :rolls:

Labamba
05-15-2009, 02:12 PM
:lol:

expecting some good stuff today as well

petar_pan
05-15-2009, 02:51 PM
come on Machievelli.we need you

VolandriFan
05-15-2009, 04:43 PM
Boris is a legend. :hearts:

Ivanatis
05-15-2009, 05:40 PM
Pashanski is a disgrace to the tour.

Mario000
05-15-2009, 05:56 PM
I came in the middle of the 3rd set, I think it was 3-2 for hocevar, and Boris was really quiet till the end of the match. Correct me if I'm wrong

rhinooooo
05-15-2009, 06:16 PM
Mach and his buddies are probably burying the body right now...

vidanhv
05-15-2009, 07:28 PM
had a couple of pints with that guy from the stands day before this happened, great guy.
we will all be there again tommorow, should be interesting
Any news from today? Took some pics? LOL

Action Jackson
06-30-2009, 01:01 PM
Hope someone who was the Zagreb challenger, gets the train or drives down to Rijeka and see if there is a repeat of any Pashanski antics against some gamblers.

Machiavelli
06-30-2009, 01:08 PM
Gamblers are the only ones, plus a few tennis mohicanos, who come to watch teh first couple of rounds at this kind of events; inside info says that there will be some spread some Pashanski ''love'' in Rijeka today for sure

Julio
06-30-2009, 01:25 PM
I like this Boris.

Much more entertaining than daisies like Djokovic and Murray.

:lol:

Action Jackson
09-13-2012, 12:30 PM
All of Boris antics are here in the one thread, except the match threads where he retired match points down.

Here are the racist comments, the fights with the crowd, someone throwing a drink at him. Definitely worth the read.

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