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Verd
11-03-2006, 02:58 PM
  

Andre♥
11-03-2006, 03:00 PM
Jarkko needs to make his physical condition better.

He always gets exhausted in the final set.

Rogiman
11-03-2006, 03:00 PM
Thanks god this horrible match is over, can't believe I watched it :o

Now my girlfriend won't let me watch the good ones, just because these two chokers had to play their rubbish for 3 hours :rolleyes:

Labamba
11-03-2006, 03:01 PM
Jarkko won the points 124-119, but couldn't win the most important ones. :sad:

Congrats Tommy :hatoff:

croat123
11-03-2006, 03:03 PM
winners/ues (total points won)
jarkko 32/35 (124)
tommy 47/62 (119)

terrible match from both :o they seriously kept pushing the ball back and forth for 3 hours

Labamba
11-03-2006, 03:04 PM
Jarkko needs to make his physical condition better.

He always gets exhausted in the final set.

Jarkko was injured last week and couldn't train well before this. He's usually one of the fittest guys on tour, nothing wrong with his physical condition, more to do with mental tiredness imo.

vincayou
11-03-2006, 03:04 PM
:woohoo: What a long match. I woke up expecting it to be well over, but they'd just started the third set. :lol:


That's strange, me too, I often wake up and Robredo is on TV. Usually it's just a little 30mn nap.

ljubicic_
11-03-2006, 03:05 PM
winners/ues (total points won)
jarkko 32/35 (124)
tommy 47/62 (119)

terrible match from both :o they seriously kept pushing the ball back and forth for 3 hours


it doesn't matter if Ancic wins today than he is also qualified for Shanghai

Exodus
11-03-2006, 03:05 PM
jarkoo led 2-0 in the second set but got broken back right away...robredo is gonna get his butt kicked very hard against davy

Andre♥
11-03-2006, 03:08 PM
Jarkko was injured last week and couldn't train well before this. He's usually one of the fittest guys on tour, nothing wrong with his physical condition, more to do with mental tiredness imo.

Well, he leads Nadal 6:4 4:1 and loses the match.

He leads Robredo 4:2 in the final set in Bastad and loses 4:6.

He leads Robredo today 7:6 *3:2 and loses the match.

Sometimes, he looks patient. Sometimes, he doesn't even let the ball hit the floor.

He has the game, he is smart, he is fit but there's something missing.

Labamba
11-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Well, he leads Nadal 6:4 4:1 and loses the match.

He leads Robredo 4:2 in the final set in Bastad and loses 4:6.

He leads Robredo today 7:6 *3:2 and loses the match.

Sometimes, he looks patient. Sometimes, he doesn't even let the ball hit the floor.

He has the game, he is smart, he is fit but there's something missing.

He's missing the confidence to beat these top guys, he needs a breakthrough win over one of them and things might be different after that.

Voo de Mar
11-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Well, he leads Nadal 6:4 4:1 and loses the match.
He leads Robredo 4:2 in the final set in Bastad and loses 4:6.
He leads Robredo today 7:6 *3:2 and loses the match.
Sometimes, he looks patient. Sometimes, he doesn't even let the ball hit the floor.
He has the game, he is smart, he is fit but there's something missing.

After all I think that Jarkko is one of the strongest mental player on ATP circuit. Pretty good match...

Deboogle!.
11-03-2006, 03:20 PM
He's missing the confidence to beat these top guys, he needs a breakthrough win over one of them and things might be different after that.I think you're right. Today I woke up late in the 2nd set and I just got the feeling Jarkko did not have the real feeling deep down that he could win. It just looked like he didn't think he could win.

shotgun
11-03-2006, 03:24 PM
Credit to Boredo for making a TMS SF on indoor carpet.

white&blue
11-03-2006, 03:24 PM
winners/ues (total points won)
jarkko 32/35 (124)
tommy 47/62 (119)

terrible match from both :o they seriously kept pushing the ball back and forth for 3 hours

You can't look those statistics seriously when there are 2 baseliners on court..
I think it was a good and entertaining match. Shame that Jarkko couldn't win..But great fight from Robredo :hatoff:

revolution
11-03-2006, 03:25 PM
This match was horrible to watch, two guys just hitting it back and forth and long and painful to watch.

Hoped jarkko would win though :(

Voo de Mar
11-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Credit to Boredo for making a TMS SF on indoor carpet.

Winner Hamburg (clay), semifinal Cincinnati (hard), at least semifinal Paris (carpet)... he deserves to play in Shanghai.

el güero
11-03-2006, 03:38 PM
Jarkko needs to make his physical condition better.

He always gets exhausted in the final set.

I agree. Jarkko was clearly tired in the 3rd and that affected his serve. Tommy was able to attack Jarkko's weak 2nd serves and Jarkko got really down on himself.

ShimSham
11-03-2006, 03:52 PM
What a shame, I really wanted Jarkko to win.:sad:

Rest up and get ready for next year Jarkko! :hug:

Deivid23
11-03-2006, 04:01 PM
Now my girlfriend won't let me watch the good ones, just because these two chokers had to play their rubbish for 3 hours :rolleyes:

It´s not Robredo and Nieminen´s fault that you´re a puppet :lol:

scarecrows
11-03-2006, 04:03 PM
Robredo :woohoo:

Fergie
11-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Well done Tommy!!! :yeah:

thiaela
11-03-2006, 04:10 PM
Yeah He wonnnnnnnnn

zicofirol
11-03-2006, 04:29 PM
I called it, he only had to beat chokers. How pathetic is the atp tour when fucking boredo is in semifinal of a carpet TMC, pathetic, its a good thing they will have fewer TMS next year, enough with clowns like robredo reaching carpet sf or winning a tms.

CooCooCachoo
11-03-2006, 04:30 PM
Tommy :bowdown:

Regenbogen
11-03-2006, 04:40 PM
Whoah Robredo made the semis :lol:

:yippee:

L.J.
11-03-2006, 04:42 PM
You know, I must be unique. Because I loved the match, I hate it when players hit winners, I love it when they just rally for ages. I like defensive players that hit shot after shot in nice long matches. I get bored by power players.

My favourite women's matches where always Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario v. Conchita Martinez in big long moonball sessions - I love to watch constructed rallies! Thanks Tommy and Jarkko for an absolutely brilliant match - I hope you guys play heaps more.

Sommarsverige
11-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Congrats Tommy :yeah:

cobalt60
11-03-2006, 05:12 PM
Not the greatest match to watch but give Robredo credit on changing his serving strategy for the last 2 sets; coming up with winners and smart tactics on the important points. I can't believe though how many unforced errors he had :tape: But the drop shots and some of the volleys made up for it;)

ReservoirCat
11-03-2006, 05:36 PM
Tommy just had that little bit extra when it counted. Well done to him.:hatoff:

el güero
11-03-2006, 05:40 PM
You know, I must be unique. Because I loved the match, I hate it when players hit winners, I love it when they just rally for ages. I like defensive players that hit shot after shot in nice long matches. I get bored by power players.

Thanks Tommy and Jarkko for an absolutely brilliant match - I hope you guys play heaps more.

A great point of view imo :yeah:

Both of these players know how to construct points and they played tactically very well today. It didn't look smooth or effortless and there were few spectacular shots because they both so effectively eliminated their opponent's chances to hit winners. All credit to Robredo, though, he really simplified his game and turned it a lot more straightforwardly aggressive on the key points.

*Ljubica*
11-03-2006, 05:54 PM
You know, I must be unique. Because I loved the match, I hate it when players hit winners, I love it when they just rally for ages. I like defensive players that hit shot after shot in nice long matches. I get bored by power players.

My favourite women's matches where always Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario v. Conchita Martinez in big long moonball sessions - I love to watch constructed rallies! Thanks Tommy and Jarkko for an absolutely brilliant match - I hope you guys play heaps more.

You're not that unique - I hate power players too :) And I would much prefer to have a nice, long, well-constructed rally rather than some robot serving machine hammering down aces that very few people can even get their racquet to :yawn: Sadly I couldn't watch the match because I was at work - but well done Tommy :banana:

DrJules
11-03-2006, 06:05 PM
You know, I must be unique. Because I loved the match, I hate it when players hit winners, I love it when they just rally for ages. I like defensive players that hit shot after shot in nice long matches. I get bored by power players.

My favourite women's matches where always Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario v. Conchita Martinez in big long moonball sessions - I love to watch constructed rallies! Thanks Tommy and Jarkko for an absolutely brilliant match - I hope you guys play heaps more.

Most enjoy watching ralleys but strongly prefer points to end on winners. A winner feels like a positive end to a point while an error always feels like a negative end. Rallys with winners tend to happen when players like Federer, Nalbandian or Safin play each other. They tend to structure points to win them rather than waiting for the opponents error.

juanqui.ferrero
11-03-2006, 06:24 PM
The match was great ! He should have won the tie-break, he was very angry at himself because he missed a lot of easy shots, but in the end he won, the public was encouraging him very much so that was great ;)

bad gambler
11-03-2006, 09:07 PM
Terrible match and shame Nieminen couldn't capitalise on the break advantage in the second set

enqvistfan
11-03-2006, 10:23 PM
Good comeback from Tommy in that match. Even if Tommy delayed the arrival of the greatest match of the day (Haas/Safin), I'm happy for him :)

Buena suerte mañana, I'll be there :yeah:

Jogy
11-03-2006, 11:02 PM
Very good, Tommy R! :banana:
I'm happy, I hope he now make the way to Masters!

another good tournament by Robredo! :)

Jogy
11-03-2006, 11:04 PM
It´s not Robredo and Nieminen´s fault that you´re a puppet :lol:
:haha: :yeah:

Jogy
11-03-2006, 11:07 PM
I called it, he only had to beat chokers. How pathetic is the atp tour when fucking boredo is in semifinal of a carpet TMC, pathetic, its a good thing they will have fewer TMS next year, enough with clowns like robredo reaching carpet sf or winning a tms.
yes ATP tour is pathetic since 2003 if a asshole and undertalented player like Federer can win 9 of 10 tournaments he is playing :lol:

musefanatic
11-03-2006, 11:33 PM
Oh Jarkko :sad: :sad: Valiant effort though :) Well done Tommy :)

leng jai
11-03-2006, 11:36 PM
The point is that a lot of moonballers/defensive players are not actually constructing a point. They just continually return the ball as deep as they can until the offensive player with less margin for error misses.