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Thanks to useless Grosjean Robredo going to shanghai!!

zicofirol
11-01-2006, 07:23 PM
Holy shit, I cant fucking stand robredo and his lame ass game, he is the most undeserving top ten, he has the worst record against the top 10 form everyone going to shanghai, from the looks of the match thread many others are pissed off abotu seeing his sorry ass in shangahi. FUck...

Off course mathieu will choke tomorrow also and then robredo has fucking Niemenen in QF so robredo will probably be in SF and get is ass handed to him by Davydenko, Gonzalez, Tursunov or Ancic, although all 4 of thse are also known chokers so we might actually see robredo in the final, what a fucking joke of a TMC...

henree
11-01-2006, 07:27 PM
Yeah I know it sucks. But it isn't over yet. Mathieu is a bit of a choker as well. But I have confidence that he will finish off Boredo, and eliminate him from Shanghai contention.

DrJules
11-01-2006, 07:28 PM
The top players will have an excellent opportunity to show how mediocre Robredo is and that he really is out of his depth in the top 10. If he proves me wrong and wins matches at the the year end masters contratulations to him, but sadly I think the former is more likely to happen.

TMJordan
11-01-2006, 07:29 PM
:fiery:

Naranoc
11-01-2006, 07:32 PM
Its too early to say Robredo will be in the final just because he was let off the hook once - I'll start to get worried if PHM really does choke against him (who knows, he still might surprise us all :shrug:)

frenchie
11-01-2006, 07:32 PM
Can you please show any respect to Robredo....

Lee
11-01-2006, 07:35 PM
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/yes.gif All those ATP points of Robredo earned or will earn are because his opponents are chokers.

DrJules
11-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Can you please show any respect to Robredo....

I will if he starts to beat top 8 players. You have to earn respect and Robredo has continually failed to show the mental fortitude to beat top players.

Andre♥
11-01-2006, 07:36 PM
Can you please show any respect to Robredo....

I respect him. But I have to tell the truth. His game is boring and I don't want to see him in the Masters Cup.

Mathieu will beat him. He has to. And he's going to. Mathieu is a choker but he is confident right now. And he was incredible today in the decisive points against Djokovic.

And he's yet to choke without his cap! :p

DrJules
11-01-2006, 07:36 PM
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/yes.gif All those ATP points of Robredo earned or will earn are because his opponents are chokers.

He is very good at beating lower ranked players, but continually fails to perform against the best.

zicofirol
11-01-2006, 07:38 PM
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/yes.gif All those ATP points of Robredo earned or will earn are because his opponents are chokers.

or because 5 top players are out of the tournament, remember how he won hamburg...

Lee
11-01-2006, 07:39 PM
He is very good at beating lower ranked players, but continually fails to perform against the best.


So he's not a choker and failed to defeat players better than him. That's a sin. http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/yes.gif

alfonsojose
11-01-2006, 07:40 PM
Maybe he's mad 'coz Gonzo is banging Dulko now :tape:

TMJordan
11-01-2006, 07:40 PM
He is a complete joke

Lee
11-01-2006, 07:41 PM
or because 5 top players are out of the tournament, remember how he won hamburg...

There are still 63 players mostly top 100 players played in that tournament, right?

So it's a sin to grab your opportunity and make the best of it. http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/yes.gif

DrJules
11-01-2006, 07:43 PM
So he's not a choker and failed to defeat players better than him. That's a sin. http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/yes.gif

No it is not a sin, but not a a good sign going to an event with the top 8 players.

CooCooCachoo
11-01-2006, 07:44 PM
Can you please show any respect to Robredo....

:yeah:

Andre♥
11-01-2006, 07:45 PM
The last time Robredo beated a Top 10 player in indoors was... NEVER!!!

revolution
11-01-2006, 07:46 PM
Please, he cannot qualify for the Masters Cup. He is an average clockwork player with the ability to grind and run.

He has earned his points, but look at the lack of competition.

Murray is on his way to the top 10. Gasquet is on his way back. Nole will also make it. When these things happen, clowns like Boredo won't be where they are now.

And as for Davydenko I actually think he has some talent and the ability to hit flash winners. He is a top 10 player, imho.

Jlee
11-01-2006, 07:47 PM
Nothing against Robredo, but I too would prefer to see someone who might actually have a chance against the other players in Shanghai...

Lee
11-01-2006, 07:48 PM
No it is not a sin, but not a a good sign going to an event with the top 8 players.

There's always a player considered to be a weak link in TMC. :shrug: And it's not any of those players fault that they are consistent enough for the WHOLE year to earn the spot in TMC.

It's OK to comment about his game, his lack of record against player higher in ranking than him. But I found it funny to attack him simply because he EARNS his points.

Andre♥
11-01-2006, 07:48 PM
Can you please show any respect to Robredo....

I do respect him. Telling that he sucks in indoors and that his game is boring isn't disrespecting him. It's telling the truth.

Now if somebody said that he sucks in clay, now that would be disrespecting him, since he's a good claycourter.

revolution
11-01-2006, 07:51 PM
And anyway even if Ancic/Gonzo push him out of the 8th spot I see one of the top guys pulling out as some are doubtful, so he is almost certain to be there.

*Ljubica*
11-01-2006, 07:58 PM
My oh my - what bitterness :rolleyes: If Robredo gets to Shanghai it will be because over the past year he has earned enough points to put him in the Top 8 in the world and qualify. Therefore - he has as much right to be there as anyone else in previous years that reached the Top 8 in the world. OK - so you don't like him - that's your prerogative - same as I don't like Roddick or Ljubicic for example - but if they're in the Top 8 they've earned their right to go too - so no point in bitching about it. Robredo has achieved more in his short lifetime already (in terms of money/fame/success) than most people here will ever achieve - and he works damn hard for it - so please give the guy a break.

Ernham
11-01-2006, 08:01 PM
Why not blame the other players that could have taken his spot? It's not his fault he might earn more points than them.

zicofirol
11-01-2006, 08:05 PM
Why not blame the other players that could have taken his spot? It's not his fault he might earn more points than them.

no one is blaming him for anything, im just saying he sucks against top 10 players and no one wants to see him in shanghai.

*Ljubica*
11-01-2006, 08:07 PM
Why not blame the other players that could have taken his spot? It's not his fault he might earn more points than them.

Absolutely. But people here are only seeing what they want to see - they don't like "Boredo" as they call him, so suddenly his going to the TMC is the worse thing that happened to tennis :rolleyes:

Ernham
11-01-2006, 08:28 PM
no one is blaming him for anything, im just saying he sucks against top 10 players and no one wants to see him in shanghai.

Generally players that get in the 6th-8th spots "suck against the top 10", which is the precise reason they qualified in the 6th-8th spots as opposed to the 1st-5th spots. I think we will need to blame this one mostly on math.

DrJules
11-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Generally players that get in the 6th-8th spots "suck against the top 10", which is the precise reason they qualified in the 6th-8th spots as opposed to the 1st-5th spots. I think we will need to blame this one mostly on math.

Except somebody like David Nalbandian is more likely to actually try to challenge the 1-4 players and beat them. I can image giant smiles across the faces of Federer, Roddick and Ljubicic if Nalbandian fails to qualify. They would all far rather see Robredo in Shanghai.

It is all very good working hard to reach these events, but PLEASE remember to actually perform at the event. The masters cup could seriously do without another semi-final like last year.

zicofirol
11-01-2006, 08:48 PM
Generally players that get in the 6th-8th spots "suck against the top 10", which is the precise reason they qualified in the 6th-8th spots as opposed to the 1st-5th spots. I think we will need to blame this one mostly on math.

Baghdatis was up there at one time, is he not good against top ten? how about Gonzalez? or Ancic? or Blake?

jcempire
11-01-2006, 09:13 PM
Thanks to useless Grosjean Robredo going to shanghai!!

Thanks a lot!

Jimnik
11-01-2006, 09:19 PM
I think everyone here is pissed off because Berdych can't qualify anymore. Unless one of the top players gets injured, there's still a good chance he won't qualify. Blake and Gonzalez are better indoor players and should be able to qualify.

I have to admit, I'm not pleased to see Robredo in Shanghai either, but he's not the one we should be angry with. Hewitt, Ferrero, Safin and many others have played like shit throughout the year. Baghdatis couldn't even be bothered to try hard during this indoor season.

markom
11-02-2006, 12:09 AM
Thanks to useless Grosjean Robredo going to shanghai!!

Thanks a lot!

well, if boredo and blake lost next rounds and there was finale ancic-haas they both could be out :) or just one if mario made sf.

sawan66278
11-02-2006, 12:30 AM
I, like most here on the board, cannot believe/accept the fact that Tommy Freakin' Robredo is going to be at the year end championships!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...EXPLAIN!!!!!!!!

How can a player...who did not even make a single Slam QF and who has lost 26 times!!!!! make it...

This is the ultimate travestiy...:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I don't wish injuries on people, but please, Tommy, withdraw for the integrity of the game!!

njnetswill
11-02-2006, 12:32 AM
Besides the masters win, where did he get all his points? :confused:

I need to do some research...

Scotso
11-02-2006, 12:36 AM
:yawn:

Horatio Caine
11-02-2006, 12:38 AM
:haha: :haha: This is too funny...

A_Rod
11-02-2006, 12:43 AM
I add new an undesirable one to my list... Tommy Robredo.

I prefer Ancic on Shanghai.

jole
11-02-2006, 12:44 AM
Holy shit, I cant fucking stand robredo and his lame ass game, he is the most undeserving top ten, he has the worst record against the top 10 form everyone going to shanghai, from the looks of the match thread many others are pissed off abotu seeing his sorry ass in shangahi. FUck...

Off course mathieu will choke tomorrow also and then robredo has fucking Niemenen in QF so robredo will probably be in SF and get is ass handed to him by Davydenko, Gonzalez, Tursunov or Ancic, although all 4 of thse are also known chokers so we might actually see robredo in the final, what a fucking joke of a TMC...

Tell us how you really feel.

Ernham
11-02-2006, 01:04 AM
well, it would have been nice if Haas, Berdych, and Blake filled the remaining 3 slots, but it just wasn't meant to be.

RickDaStick
11-02-2006, 02:47 AM
:( another clay court specialist in Shanghai

TMJordan
11-02-2006, 02:49 AM
He wont even win one set in Shanghai

TMJordan
11-02-2006, 03:02 AM
What do Wayne Arthurs, Gred Rusedski, Paul Capdeville, and Vladimir Voltchkov have in common?

TMJordan
11-02-2006, 03:07 AM
Hey Ivo indoors would beat Tommy 10 out of 10 so thats why I didnt mention it.

Losing to Gred Rusedski who is 8-22 on CLAY since 2000.

How does he lose on clay at a TMS to Greg?

This guy should not be at Shanghai, no way no how.

hanabishi
11-02-2006, 03:16 AM
A lot of people criticize Tommy for being in the Top Ten with such results, but frankly, the people who are ranked behind him in the Race have had worse results, which is why they're - gasp - behind him! :p There are plenty of players who, as some people on MTF claim, "should" be above Robredo, such as Safin, Hewitt, Ancic, Gasquet, et cetera, but it's the players' job to earn enough points to be ranked above Tommy. Criticize them instead - especially if they are so talented that for Robredo to be ranked above them is a blasphemy.

So what if other players are better and "should" be ranked above him? Frankly I think it's more admirable to make the most out of what talent you have than to be remembered as a really talented person who didn't have the mental fortitude to make the most of his gifts.


Couldn't have said it better myself. Great post, J'torian! :yeah:

Metis
11-02-2006, 03:40 AM
Great posts J'torian! Shut them up. Shhhhhhhh :) :p

TMJordan
11-02-2006, 03:42 AM
valid points, but comon Rusedski on clay...8-22

connectolove
11-02-2006, 06:31 AM
Holy shit, I cant fucking stand robredo and his lame ass game, he is the most undeserving top ten, he has the worst record against the top 10 form everyone going to shanghai, from the looks of the match thread many others are pissed off abotu seeing his sorry ass in shangahi. FUck...

Off course mathieu will choke tomorrow also and then robredo has fucking Niemenen in QF so robredo will probably be in SF and get is ass handed to him by Davydenko, Gonzalez, Tursunov or Ancic, although all 4 of thse are also known chokers so we might actually see robredo in the final, what a fucking joke of a TMC...


I can't believe this hate estatement! Robredo is a fighter and a great tennis player. A little bit on the robotic side, but, he is nice to look at... he deserves to be where he is. In tennis everybody deserves to be where they are.

DrJules
11-02-2006, 06:33 AM
Yes, he has an abysmal record against Federer, Nadal, and Roddick, but name me any player ranked in the lower rungs of the Top Ten and below who have respectable records against the Top Five AND have performed well this season. (I'm not including Ljubicic and Davydenko in this discussion because Tommy's beaten the both of them for the first time this year, even though they're ranked above him.)

So what if other players are better and "should" be ranked above him? Frankly I think it's more admirable to make the most out of what talent you have than to be remembered as a really talented person who didn't have the mental fortitude to make the most of his gifts. As Lee pointed out, yes, he hardly ever beats players ranked above him, but he also hardly ever loses to players he "shouldn't" - which signifies that he's fairly strong mentally and usually loses by being outplayed, not by choking/tanking/etc. :shrug:

And I'm highly amused by the person who said that Davydenko, unlike Robredo, can pull off some flashy shots. Of course Nikolay can, but to say that Tommy can't in comparison is ridiculous. Watch his match against Blake at the AO this year, his matches in Hamburg this year, or his final against Nikolay in Båstad. The most recent example I remember is a particularly nice point against Marat in Toronto where Tommy hit three beautiful backhands in succession three different ways, winning the point with the third. :hearts:

Berdych.
3-1 vs. Nadal (2-0 this year).
1-0 vs. Roddick (1-0 this year).
1-2 vs. Ljubicic (none this year, by won Paris masters against Ljubicic last year)
1-4 vs. Federer (0-3 this year)

That is Berdych is 6-7 against the current top 4.:eek:

Action Jackson
11-02-2006, 06:39 AM
Well well he is going to be there now and every year the Masters has a gimp, and this is no different, Gaudio, Berasategui are past examples of the TMC gimp and Boredo isn't any different.

He got the points to make there and took advantage of his opportunities unlike some players and good luck to him for that, but he should enjoy his time in Shanghai and have his flight booked for the end of Day 3 or morning of Day 4.

Jack Sparrow
11-02-2006, 06:42 AM
i can' t believe it...i am sure that gonzalez should have superate robredo,but dirty benneteau eliminated him....grosjean instead gave the match to robredo as a present....
now only ancic can be go to master in place of robredo....but this is very difficult!robredo isn't a player able to play in a master cup........he can't give any problems to other players,because he is inferior...
i hope in mario ancic!:wavey:

~EMiLiTA~
11-02-2006, 06:45 AM
well i think some comments on here are a little bit harsh towards Tommy.. I agree that he is perhaps not the ideal candidate for a TMC and that he has probably overachieved in terms of his ranking but the fact is that he is in the top 8 at the moment and has been for quite a few months now. Looking at the broader picture of this season, he has been one of the more consistent players so i guess he deserves to go.

Also, in all the years I have known him, I can certainly vouch for the fact that he works extremely hard...harder than a lot of other players..and takes his tennis very seriously so I think he deserves some credit for that.

DrJules
11-02-2006, 06:45 AM
Well well he is going to be there now and every year the Masters has a gimp, and this is no different, Gaudio, Berasategui are past examples of the TMC gimp and Boredo isn't any different.

He got the points to make there and took advantage of his opportunities unlike some players and good luck to him for that, but he should enjoy his time in Shanghai and have his flight booked for the end of Day 3 or morning of Day 4.

:scratch: If losing 3 matches in a row is enjoyable.

Action Jackson
11-02-2006, 06:50 AM
:scratch: If losing 3 matches in a row is enjoyable.

Awwwwwwwwww, as much as I don't like Boredo, he is not going go out there and not try in matches.

He has made a TMC, something many players won't do and that is an achievement whether he wins a match or doesn't. It's not like he is expected to get past the group stages, so what is he going to do. "Oh no! I am a carpet cretin and I should just give my place up"

Sommarsverige
11-02-2006, 06:59 AM
A quick refresher:

- title, AMS Hamburg
- title, Båstad
- final, Barcelona
- semis, AMS Cincinnati
- semis, Bombay/Mumbai
- QF, AMS Monte Carlo
- QF, Toukyou
- round of 16 in three out of four slams this year

:wavey: (Also, someone mentioned that Robredo's never made the QF of a Slam, but he has at Roland Garros twice.)

A lot of people criticize Tommy for being in the Top Ten with such results, but frankly, the people who are ranked behind him in the Race have had worse results, which is why they're - gasp - behind him! :p There are plenty of players who, as some people on MTF claim, "should" be above Robredo, such as Safin, Hewitt, Ancic, Gasquet, et cetera, but it's the players' job to earn enough points to be ranked above Tommy. Criticize them instead - especially if they are so talented that for Robredo to be ranked above them is a blasphemy.



:tape: I love how this is brought up every time Robredo is mentioned.

Yes, he has an abysmal record against Federer, Nadal, and Roddick, but name me any player ranked in the lower rungs of the Top Ten and below who have respectable records against the Top Five AND have performed well this season. (I'm not including Ljubicic and Davydenko in this discussion because Tommy's beaten the both of them for the first time this year, even though they're ranked above him.)

So what if other players are better and "should" be ranked above him? Frankly I think it's more admirable to make the most out of what talent you have than to be remembered as a really talented person who didn't have the mental fortitude to make the most of his gifts. As Lee pointed out, yes, he hardly ever beats players ranked above him, but he also hardly ever loses to players he "shouldn't" - which signifies that he's fairly strong mentally and usually loses by being outplayed, not by choking/tanking/etc. :shrug:

And I'm highly amused by the person who said that Davydenko, unlike Robredo, can pull off some flashy shots. Of course Nikolay can, but to say that Tommy can't in comparison is ridiculous. Watch his match against Blake at the AO this year, his matches in Hamburg this year, or his final against Nikolay in Båstad. The most recent example I remember is a particularly nice point against Marat in Toronto where Tommy hit three beautiful backhands in succession three different ways, winning the point with the third. :hearts:

:yeah: :yeah:

silverwhite
11-02-2006, 07:02 AM
It's not his fault that Grosjean decided to pull off the typical French choke. :shrug:

MariaV
11-02-2006, 07:26 AM
A quick refresher:

- title, AMS Hamburg
- title, Båstad
- final, Barcelona
- semis, AMS Cincinnati
- semis, Bombay/Mumbai
- QF, AMS Monte Carlo
- QF, Toukyou
- round of 16 in three out of four slams this year

:wavey: (Also, someone mentioned that Robredo's never made the QF of a Slam, but he has at Roland Garros twice.)

A lot of people criticize Tommy for being in the Top Ten with such results, but frankly, the people who are ranked behind him in the Race have had worse results, which is why they're - gasp - behind him! :p There are plenty of players who, as some people on MTF claim, "should" be above Robredo, such as Safin, Hewitt, Ancic, Gasquet, et cetera, but it's the players' job to earn enough points to be ranked above Tommy. Criticize them instead - especially if they are so talented that for Robredo to be ranked above them is a blasphemy.



:tape: I love how this is brought up every time Robredo is mentioned.

Yes, he has an abysmal record against Federer, Nadal, and Roddick, but name me any player ranked in the lower rungs of the Top Ten and below who have respectable records against the Top Five AND have performed well this season. (I'm not including Ljubicic and Davydenko in this discussion because Tommy's beaten the both of them for the first time this year, even though they're ranked above him.)

So what if other players are better and "should" be ranked above him? Frankly I think it's more admirable to make the most out of what talent you have than to be remembered as a really talented person who didn't have the mental fortitude to make the most of his gifts. As Lee pointed out, yes, he hardly ever beats players ranked above him, but he also hardly ever loses to players he "shouldn't" - which signifies that he's fairly strong mentally and usually loses by being outplayed, not by choking/tanking/etc. :shrug:

And I'm highly amused by the person who said that Davydenko, unlike Robredo, can pull off some flashy shots. Of course Nikolay can, but to say that Tommy can't in comparison is ridiculous. Watch his match against Blake at the AO this year, his matches in Hamburg this year, or his final against Nikolay in Båstad. The most recent example I remember is a particularly nice point against Marat in Toronto where Tommy hit three beautiful backhands in succession three different ways, winning the point with the third. :hearts:


WTG J'torian! You show 'em! :yeah:

The Pro
11-02-2006, 09:39 AM
Who is this Robredo that people are talking about?:p

ginnylegend
11-02-2006, 11:22 AM
He'll get his ass owned in straights whoever he plays.

connectolove
11-02-2006, 11:49 AM
Good!!!!!!!!!!!!! Robredo Is Going To Shangai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I♥PsY@Mus!c
11-02-2006, 11:50 AM
Holy shit, I cant fucking stand robredo and his lame ass game, he is the most undeserving top ten, he has the worst record against the top 10 form everyone going to shanghai, from the looks of the match thread many others are pissed off abotu seeing his sorry ass in shangahi. FUck...

Off course mathieu will choke tomorrow also and then robredo has fucking Niemenen in QF so robredo will probably be in SF and get is ass handed to him by Davydenko, Gonzalez, Tursunov or Ancic, although all 4 of thse are also known chokers so we might actually see robredo in the final, what a fucking joke of a TMC...

I know what you feel. :sad:

juanqui.ferrero
11-03-2006, 06:09 PM
Holy shit, I cant fucking stand robredo and his lame ass game, he is the most undeserving top ten, he has the worst record against the top 10 form everyone going to shanghai, from the looks of the match thread many others are pissed off abotu seeing his sorry ass in shangahi. FUck...

Off course mathieu will choke tomorrow also and then robredo has fucking Niemenen in QF so robredo will probably be in SF and get is ass handed to him by Davydenko, Gonzalez, Tursunov or Ancic, although all 4 of thse are also known chokers so we might actually see robredo in the final, what a fucking joke of a TMC...
Could you fucking stop fucking saying fuckin ???????? This is really annoying !
And stop being so hateful. Just dont watch the game if you can't stand the player you sore loser ! Who do you think you are ? Get your racket up and go beat him then come back and talk shit about him, alright ?
Thanx, oh, and don't go have a heart attack getting so excited about someone you don't even know.

enqvistfan
11-03-2006, 10:31 PM
Holy shit, I cant fucking stand robredo and his lame ass game, he is the most undeserving top ten, he has the worst record against the top 10 form everyone going to shanghai, from the looks of the match thread many others are pissed off abotu seeing his sorry ass in shangahi. FUck...

Off course mathieu will choke tomorrow also and then robredo has fucking Niemenen in QF so robredo will probably be in SF and get is ass handed to him by Davydenko, Gonzalez, Tursunov or Ancic, although all 4 of thse are also known chokers so we might actually see robredo in the final, what a fucking joke of a TMC...

As you mentionned, Robredo is in the SF, so Shanghai is deserved. Watch his results this year, many victories, good results. Show more respect to this player and to the people who support him.

Jogy
11-03-2006, 11:25 PM
Well well he is going to be there now and every year the Masters has a gimp, and this is no different, Gaudio, Berasategui are past examples of the TMC gimp and Boredo isn't any different.
With difference that Robredo can play on hardcourt and indoor and has bigger achievement as a hard-fastcourt joke like Gaudio who looses 6/0 6/0 to people and who fails to make anything on hardcourt even in a good season.

GlennMirnyi
11-04-2006, 04:00 AM
Grosjean messed up huge... Robredo should never be in the TMC. At least there we know he's going to be annihilated.

Action Jackson
11-04-2006, 06:06 AM
With difference that Robredo can play on hardcourt and indoor and has bigger achievement as a hard-fastcourt joke like Gaudio who looses 6/0 6/0 to people and who fails to make anything on hardcourt even in a good season.

This means what exactly? This isn't about Gaudio, it's about Robredo and the only context Gaudio was used in was that he was the whipping boy in 2004 and there have been others as well like Berasategui, Coria ( though his was more injury related in this case) and Robredo will be no different in this case. It's not a question of who the better player and never has been.

Experimentee
11-04-2006, 11:20 AM
Grosjean should have finished him off when he could :rolleyes:

Hokit
11-04-2006, 12:09 PM
Grosjean's a defensive player so it's no surprise he lost to baseline Robredo :shrug:

Who I'm really pissed at is Mario. Of all times to lose to Davydenko, it's at the tournament before the big one :fiery: Even though there's been injury reports from Nadal and that other Croatian guy, I think Mario would have to wait next year for another shot :mad: