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How do professional tennis players survive?

r2473
10-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Here is a list of prize money won to date:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/en/media/rankings/Current_Prize.pdf

Thomas Johansson (100) has earned $227,690 so far this year. What do you imagine his expenses (travel, coach, trainer, etc.) have to be for a year? How much of this (after taxes) does he retain?

Perhaps ToJo was a bad example (because he is well known and probably makes money on endorsements as well). But what about other players ranked close to him in prize money (say Marcos Daniel at 113)? I can't imagine he makes much (if anything) on endorsements. How does a guy like this make it out there?

Does anyone have insight into the life of a lower ranked / lesser known professional tennis player? Are they independently wealthy? Do they have wealthy relatives? How can they make it?

Thanks,

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 11:44 PM
prize money is chump change compared to all the money players make from sponsorships, appearance fees, under-the-table bargaining, and just showing up on entry lists before pulling out.

Just Cause
10-18-2006, 11:46 PM
yup, sponsorship is important.

Lee
10-18-2006, 11:46 PM
prize money is chump change compared to all the money players make from sponsorships, appearance fees, under-the-table bargaining, and just showing up on entry lists before pulling out.

But these only apply to top players.

Most knowledgeable tennis fans understand players out of top 100 don't have an easy life.

r2473
10-18-2006, 11:51 PM
prize money is chump change compared to all the money players make from sponsorships, appearance fees, under-the-table bargaining, and just showing up on entry lists before pulling out.

Does this apply to Marcos Daniel?

Johnny Groove
10-19-2006, 12:01 AM
Does this apply to Marcos Daniel?

true, it doesnt. I was referring to topish players. as Lee said, its tough if you have no funding. Sometimes a young gun will pop up and get support from some company or even the national federation (Donald Young for example)

Whistleway
10-19-2006, 12:22 AM
Your comprehension amazes me, Blaze-2004. Great way to divert the thread.

Tennis outside say top 200, is really difficult. Anyone saw that movie about the Journey men? These guys outside top 200 or so, just play it for the passion of the sport. *Salute to them*

Found it. It is "The Journey Man" movie.
http://www.thetennischannel.com/programs/net_film_detail.aspx?name=The%20Journeymen

CmonAussie
10-19-2006, 03:39 AM
prize money is chump change compared to all the money players make from sponsorships, appearance fees, under-the-table bargaining, and just showing up on entry lists before pulling out.
:wavey:
For World #5 Davydenko prize money is everything;) ~~ that`s because despite his high ranking, strong perfomance in Slams & 4-titles in 2006 the poor balding Russian still can`t find a clothing sponsor:p :sad:

margaret_gn
10-19-2006, 08:44 AM
tojo is now #100?!?! :eek: :eek: :sad:

Truc
10-19-2006, 09:09 AM
tojo is now #100?!?! :eek: :eek: :sad:In the prize money ranking. He's #55 in the entry ranking.

Thanks for the link, r2473, I didn't know that list and I had no idea a guy like Bjorkman earns so much prize money (#9, better than Nalbandian)!

margaret_gn
10-19-2006, 09:17 AM
In the prize money ranking. He's #55 in the entry ranking.

Thanks for the link, r2473, I didn't know that list and I had no idea a guy like Bjorkman earns so much prize money (#9, better than Nalbandian)!

oh ok thanks! phew! i knew he hasn't played well in a while but i still got a shock seeing the number 100 next to him...

bellascarlett
10-19-2006, 10:17 AM
roger's numbers are sickening. :lol: and you know that's not even half of what he earns or has earned.

and yeah bjorkman is rich. pretty surprising to see him in top ten but obviously his doubles play helps a lot. good for him. :)

tiptop
10-19-2006, 10:40 AM
I don't know who it was (I think Taylor Dent). But this guy said you need around 100.000 $ to survive (including travelling etc.; not sure if the coach was included).

Truc
10-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Are the lists of the last years available too on the ATP website?
I was for example wondering about a guy like Llodra who decided to split with Santoro to focus on his single career. How much did he earn last year when he was playing with Santoro?

(2006:
19 Santoro, Fabrice $699,790
...
119 Llodra, Michael $173,280)

Vass
10-19-2006, 12:20 PM
Are the lists of the last years available too on the ATP website?
I was for example wondering about a guy like Llodra who decided to split with Santoro to focus on his single career. How much did he earn last year when he was playing with Santoro?

(2006:
19 Santoro, Fabrice $699,790
...
119 Llodra, Michael $173,280)

yeah, seems that Llodra made a mistake.

Chris Seahorse
10-19-2006, 01:01 PM
Your comprehension amazes me, Blaze-2004. Great way to divert the thread.

Tennis outside say top 200, is really difficult. Anyone saw that movie about the Journey men? These guys outside top 200 or so, just play it for the passion of the sport. *Salute to them*

Found it. It is "The Journey Man" movie.
http://www.thetennischannel.com/programs/net_film_detail.aspx?name=The%20Journeymen

Well put. A guy like Dick Norman who still has the enthusiasm and love of the game to still be out there mostly on the challenger tour at 35 years old (and even achieve a ranking around his career high) is amazing and inspiring. These guys not in the top 75 or so still have huge coaching and traveling expenses and when you start looking at the players out of the top 200 for them breaking even is tough and most need some kind of benefactor to help them out.

Via
10-19-2006, 02:00 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

i don't know if i should be overjoyed or what... but officially, i earn more than most of the 'names' on that list !!!!!!!!! (the median is like, $800 ???)

i do hope anyone making less than $30k has a second job!

That tennis kid
10-19-2006, 02:14 PM
In the prize money ranking. He's #55 in the entry ranking.

Thanks for the link, r2473, I didn't know that list and I had no idea a guy like Bjorkman earns so much prize money (#9, better than Nalbandian)!

Bjorkman has had a good year. Wimbledon semi-final and a final in Nottingham made for a fairly profitable grass court season. Also winning 7 doubles titles including 3 Master Series and Roland Garros as well as reaching the final at the US Open with Mirnyi brings in a fair bit of money.