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Why do all these retarded people hate Ljubicic so much?

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Just tell my one REASONABLE reason......Ivan is a great tennis player and a man....He is not arrogant or something! Tell my why do most people hate him?What have he done to you?WHAT!!I'm just so angry...YOU *************** A INSULTING HIM FOR NO REASON!!!!!! GO TO HELL.......THE MODERATORS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!

disturb3d
10-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Not only that. But he has no support outside of Croatia.

boingboing
10-17-2006, 10:42 PM
angry much?!

Deboogle!.
10-17-2006, 10:43 PM
Right, the mods are probably gonna do something, but not about people disliking Ljubicic. :lol:

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:44 PM
yes

Jaap
10-17-2006, 10:44 PM
Because he is a bald, boring bitch who always chokes at the majors and in the any other era, would have struggled to get into the top 20.

I hope Murray rips the bald Croat a new one tommorrow.

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:44 PM
Right, the mods are probably gonna do something, but not about people disliking Ljubicic. :lol:

tell me why?

superhoops
10-17-2006, 10:45 PM
I just don't like him because of his style of game (boring), his emotion on court and his ranking even though he isn't as good as it suggests but i don't make threads calling him names or anything. Hopefully Muzza will take care of him tomorrow.

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:45 PM
Because he is a bald, boring bitch who always chokes at the majors and in the any other era, would have struggled to get into the top 20.

I hope Murray rips the bald Croat Bastard a new one tommorrow.

Yeah,only he's no.3 and a winner of 6 atp titles!:wavey: And i forgot,THE BEST INDOOR PLAYER!KING :worship:

disturb3d
10-17-2006, 10:46 PM
tennisfancroatia.

If you weren't from Croatia, you too would be one of these 'retarted' people.

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:47 PM
I just don't like him because of his style of game (boring), his emotion on court and his ranking even though he isn't as good as it suggests but i don't make threads calling him names or anything. Hopefully Muzza will take care of him tomorrow.

It's not forbiden to dislike him,but many people are INSULTING him!

Jaap
10-17-2006, 10:47 PM
Pray tell me, what has Ljububitch ever done at a major? :confused:

superhoops
10-17-2006, 10:47 PM
Which of his 6 ATP Title was hard to win for a 'great' player and of any importance?

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:48 PM
tennisfancroatia.

If you weren't from Croatia, you too would be one of these 'retarted' people.

NO!!i would not!!!bet i am for croatia

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:50 PM
Pray tell me, what has Ljububitch ever done at a major? :confused:

In the past nothing.But,you have to know,he started to play GREAT TENNIS at age 26,and that brought him to NO.3!THis year(Last year indoor,this year are those years) SF RG,QF AO........:wavey:

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 10:53 PM
SCREW THE HATERS! :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: Ivan will shut the haters mouth with his results in Madrid,Bercy and Shanghai!

Deboogle!.
10-17-2006, 10:53 PM
tell me why?Because much of the language you used in your first post of this thread is against MTF's new rules for respect towards other posters.

People are allowed to dislike Ljubicic, you just have to get a thicker skin. If/when people go too far, use inappropriate language, or attack individual posters, then the moderators will deal with it, but until then, talk to a Roddick or a Hewitt fan about their favorite being torn to shreds unfairly and relentlessly here before you complain about it further. Moreover, some of Ljubicic's biggest fans on this board are brutal towards they players they don't like, so it would be pretty hypocritical to ask people to stop saying stuff about Ljubicic when many of Ljubicic's fans here say stuff about many other players all the time :wavey:

Can someone get those violin smileys? I think we need them here.

Pepper LaRue
10-17-2006, 10:56 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/CAPSOFF.jpg

Thankles.

rofe
10-17-2006, 10:56 PM
Why do you care so much what MTF thinks about Ivan? :scratch: Just enjoy Ivan's tennis.

chicky841
10-17-2006, 10:57 PM
Er dont worry about it so much. Everyone has haters, such is life. You just need to ignore it. Like Deb said go talk to a Roddick or Hewitt fan.

rofe
10-17-2006, 10:58 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/CAPSOFF.jpg

Thankles.

:lol:

supersexynadal
10-17-2006, 11:04 PM
Ill tell u y...

First of all my definition of retarted is saying a player sucks so forget about these people.
To tell u the truth, i dont like ljubicic but i just happen to not like his game. As for his personality, he appears cold but who am i to talk??? Thats just how some players like to act on court and that may not be his real personlity. He said some offensive comments before but so have my favorite players.. Were all human. Everyone had their preferences and most of the time theyre not based on anything

bluefork
10-17-2006, 11:08 PM
I think he might not be as hated if his fans weren't as...how should I say it...demonstrative? They tend to be more insulting than necessary to other players and their fans. And they talk about Ljubicic like he's a great player. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like Ljubicic, but he isn't really a GREAT player. He's achieved a lot more than he probably should have, which I can actually respect. But when his fans try to make him out to be better than he is, and when they are so antagonistic to everyone else, it reflects poorly on Ljubicic himself.

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 11:10 PM
Er dont worry about it so much. Everyone has haters, such is life. You just need to ignore it. Like Deb said go talk to a Roddick or Hewitt fan.

:worship:

Blue Heart24
10-17-2006, 11:12 PM
I think he might not be as hated if his fans weren't as...how should I say it...demonstrative? They tend to be more insulting than necessary to other players and their fans. And they talk about Ljubicic like he's a great player. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like Ljubicic, but he isn't really a GREAT player. He's achieved a lot more than he probably should have, which I can actually respect. But when his fans try to make him out to be better than he is, and when they are so antagonistic to everyone else, it reflects poorly on Ljubicic himself.

He is a great player! He won 6 titles,he was 3 times in AMS final,he has 60-17 this year,he has 11-0 in DC in a row,he is NUMBER 3.in the world! and many more fantastic matches!INDOOR KING! Forgot to mention,2 times in a row in TMC

Carito_90
10-17-2006, 11:25 PM
Ah, the times where I wanted to change everyone's mind and make them believe what I did. :lol:

Do you know why I stopped trying? Becuase it is friggin impossible. If people think Ljubicic is crap, they will keep on thinking that, dispite what you say. He's not Federer, where it would be ilogical to think he's a crappy player given the titles and success he has achieved.

Ivan hasn't won a major tournament, hasn't won any GS, hasn't even achieved the finals and he lost his two finals against Nadal in the TMS of both Madrid and Paris. People have room to talk about his lack of success, whether you like it or not.

The bashing Ljubicic and his fans have to go through has nothing on the one Roddick and Hewitt's fan have to go through. It hasn't been quite that bad lately but it used to be. A lot worse.

All in all, you can't call a person a 'retarded' just because they don't agree with what you say. The world's not always going to be rainbows and butterflies. You're going to have people that disagree with you and you'll be able to do nothing about it. You'll have to do things you dislike and you wont be able to do anything about it. Deal with and get over it. Geez. :rolleyes:

KaxMisha
10-17-2006, 11:26 PM
tennisfancroatia.

If you weren't from Croatia, you too would be one of these 'retarted' people.

I disagree. I like Ljubicic. Unlike Roddick or other serve machines, he has a baseline game that is quite attractive and "un-jerky", so to speak. His backhand is a thing of beauty and he is also quite good at the net. Obviously, he isn't that great a mover, but with his height, that is understandable. I too belong to the category of people who don't understand why others would dislike him so much. I mean, tennis-wise, Roddick is a million times more one-dimensional and boring.

Deboogle!.
10-17-2006, 11:32 PM
I disagree. I like Ljubicic. Unlike Roddick or other serve machines, he has a baseline game that is quite attractive and "un-jerky", so to speak. His backhand is a thing of beauty and he is also quite good at the net. Obviously, he isn't that great a mover, but with his height, that is understandable. I too belong to the category of people who don't understand why others would dislike him so much. I mean, tennis-wise, Roddick is a million times more one-dimensional and boring.This isn't even relevant at all. Federer is probably the most talented person to ever pick up a racquet and I still don't like him. The point isn't that Ljubicic is talented or a good player, the point is that people can dislike him if they want, as long as they don't cross the line, and calling those who don't like him "retarded" and a "son of a bitch" is a little much and just a little bit excessive and over the top, no? :)

TMJordan
10-17-2006, 11:33 PM
Ahhh good times I remember heckling him this summer and chearing when he netted :D

But the umpire yelled at me infront of everyone :sad:

TMJordan
10-17-2006, 11:34 PM
Oh and I really do hate him

DrJules
10-17-2006, 11:39 PM
Are you being serious.

MTF is not a patch on WTF. The viciousness and vitriolic nastiness of Williams' fans towards JHH, which extends to joking and making fun of injuries and illness that she suffers, makes all the comments on MTF about Ivan appear trivial and humourous in comparison.

KaxMisha
10-17-2006, 11:41 PM
This isn't even relevant at all. Federer is probably the most talented person to ever pick up a racquet and I still don't like him. The point isn't that Ljubicic is talented or a good player, the point is that people can dislike him if they want, as long as they don't cross the line, and calling those who don't like him "retarded" and a "son of a bitch" is a little much and just a little bit excessive and over the top, no? :)

It's stupid do dislike players whose tennis you like or to like players whose tennis you don't like. To you, me and most other people. they are tennis players, period. Letting how they are off court, how nice they are or other, in this context irrelevant, crap influence how much you like them is illogical and well... plain stupid. Also, most of the people who hate Ljubicic say they do because he is boring. Now I've never been out clubbing with this guy, and neither have those who say he's boring, so whether he's boring as a person is irrelevant, and when it comes to his tennis, I don't find it that boring. Actually, I've never seen a less boring player with a serve like that. No Karlovic... THAT'S boring!

General Suburbia
10-17-2006, 11:43 PM
Just tell my one REASONABLE reason......Ivan is a great tennis player and a man....He is not arrogant or something! Tell my why do most people hate him?What have he done to you?WHAT!!I'm just so angry...YOU SON OF A BITCHES A INSULTING HIM FOR NO REASON!!!!!! GO TO HELL.......THE MODERATORS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!
I don't hate Ljubicic. It's his fans here on MTF that are retarted. Like you

Deboogle!.
10-17-2006, 11:44 PM
It's stupid do dislike players whose tennis you like or to like players whose tennis you don't like. To you, me and most other people. they are tennis players, period. Letting how they are off court, how nice they are or other, in this context irrelevant, crap influence how much you like them is illogical and well... plain stupid. Also, most of the people who hate Ljubicic say they do because he is boring. Now I've never been out clubbing with this guy, and neither have those who say he's boring, so whether he's boring as a person is irrelevant, and when it comes to his tennis, I don't find it that boring. Actually, I've never seen a less boring player with a serve like that. No Karlovic... THAT'S boring!Right, but don't those who choose to dislike him for WHATEVER Reason still have that right? Yes they do, and per the rules of MTF they have the right to express such dislike unless and until they do break the rules. In fact, tennisfancroatia's first post in this thread comes much closer to arguably breaking the MTF rules than anything anyone posts in dislike of Ljubicic.

Maybe people dislike players for silly or senseless reasons, but so what? I can guarantee you this thread is not gonna influence anyone to say any less about Ljubicic :haha: In fact, it may end up having the opposite of the intended effect :lol: I mean, what was the point of this thread? It was to whine and complain about, and insult, those who don't like Ljubicic. well WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHHH they need to get over it :) And maybe tennisfancroatia should talk to some of his or her fellow Ljubicic fans and tell them that no one's gonna stop insulting him merely b/c it upsets them, considering, again, how crass and rude some vocal Ljubicic fans can be.

Horatio Caine
10-17-2006, 11:46 PM
:haha: :haha: Top 5 best thread of 2006 :cool:

No follow up words needed :angel:

Tytta!.
10-17-2006, 11:56 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/CAPSOFF.jpg

Thankles.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

adee-gee
10-18-2006, 12:00 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: classic.

Although can we amend the title to : WHY DO ALL THESE RETARDED PEOPLE LIKE LJUBICIC SO MUCH?

tennisfancroatia, Jerry Seinfeld, Ivan Ljubicic, s.m.....need I go on. In fact, I'm yet to read 1 decent post by a Ljubicic fan.

As for hating him, he's an overrated, bald, ugly, untalented, boring, whining big gimp who has somehow reached #3 despite not winning anything of note, who is going to get his ass handed to him on a plate by the vastly superior Murray.

DrJules
10-18-2006, 12:00 AM
I think actually that there are more hostile posts about Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal than any other players. It seems the more successful a player the more hostility.

blosson
10-18-2006, 12:05 AM
The thread title and your first post say it all. Why should you expect people to stop hating the player if you equally attack them? :shrug:

KaxMisha
10-18-2006, 12:09 AM
Right, but don't those who choose to dislike him for WHATEVER Reason still have that right? Yes they do, and per the rules of MTF they have the right to express such dislike unless and until they do break the rules. In fact, tennisfancroatia's first post in this thread comes much closer to arguably breaking the MTF rules than anything anyone posts in dislike of Ljubicic.

Maybe people dislike players for silly or senseless reasons, but so what? I can guarantee you this thread is not gonna influence anyone to say any less about Ljubicic :haha: In fact, it may end up having the opposite of the intended effect :lol: I mean, what was the point of this thread? It was to whine and complain about, and insult, those who don't like Ljubicic. well WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHHH they need to get over it :) And maybe tennisfancroatia should talk to some of his or her fellow Ljubicic fans and tell them that no one's gonna stop insulting him merely b/c it upsets them, considering, again, how crass and rude some vocal Ljubicic fans can be.

Yes, they definitely do have the right to dislike him for whatever reason. All I'm saying is that their reasons are stupid and illogical in most cases. As for the other part of your post - I agree with you that this thread is unnecessary and furthermore, I think all "fanboy-ish" behavior, be it by fans of Federer, Nadal or Ljubicic is stupid. I was just saying I don't understand why so many dislike Ljubicic, as his game is actually quite nice to watch.

User id 7816
10-18-2006, 12:14 AM
I think he might not be as hated if his fans weren't as...how should I say it...demonstrative? They tend to be more insulting than necessary to other players and their fans. And they talk about Ljubicic like he's a great player. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like Ljubicic, but he isn't really a GREAT player. He's achieved a lot more than he probably should have, which I can actually respect. But when his fans try to make him out to be better than he is, and when they are so antagonistic to everyone else, it reflects poorly on Ljubicic himself.

spot on.
I can surely understand the croats being very proud of croat getting to No.3 in the world. But there is something wrong when all you do is come here and praise praise praise someone, who may be winning and is number 3, and is a good player but certainly not truly great. Of course, if by great you mean the number of aces maybe he is. I thought Disturb3d had explained perfectly in the Madrid draw thread about Ljubicic's weaknesses technically and those are the reasons why I dont like and enjoy his game. He doesnt give you much to get on with his oncourt personality either.
So yes I dont like him but I dont hate him. I just think he, much like Roddick is achieving it all 80% on the basis of his serve - without having enough of the rest. The difference is Ljubo has a great backhand dtl.
I also think the Ljubicic and Roddick fans or tards need to get on a group therapy or something. Boohoo. :D

gusman890
10-18-2006, 12:34 AM
Ivan doesnt know when to STFU.

he complains about everything.

he chokes

he got to no.3 by not winning a TMS or GS. Got his ass owned by federer more last year then any other player alive.

lost to freaken Feli in the first round of the USO (no disrespect feli fans :))

but still, sure he can serve, thats all he is. Vienna is a joke if he cant be broken that long, its totally a mickey mouse tournament if no one can break him there.

He also lost to blake pretty badly who he owned over a lifetime, you can aruge that he was injured, but blakes on a hot streak right now and he doesnt seem to show signs of slowing down.

Clara Bow
10-18-2006, 12:35 AM
I think actually that there are more hostile posts about Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal than any other players. It seems the more successful a player the more hostility.

I agree with you there. :) Rafa has taken over the mantle of the "most hated player" on MTF in my opinion from Roddick and Hewitt and maybe Coria. All four of them have had really nasty stuff said about them since I joined up. And Roger is prone to having insults thrown at him here - as are others of course. I do agree that there are a number of folks who don't like Luby- but he can find plenty of other players in his boat.


But what I find funny is that some folks who get offended when posters insult their favorite player can inturn be prone themselves to say viscous and nasty things about other players. But us humans as a species are prone to hypocrisy – myself included.

Truth be told, I think that MTF can be too mean spirited at times and the hatred and vitriol thrown towards some players can really decrease my enjoyment of the boards. We don't have to all like the same players- but boy- sometimes it can get nutty. Sometimes it seems more about the hating than any actual discussion. And it does seem that over the past year and a half a lot of the posts in GM are becoming more about saying negative things over and over again without wanting to actually engage in a virtual discussion about tennis where there is actual discourse about aspects of the sport. [/gets off lil’ soapbox]

Tennis Fool
10-18-2006, 12:44 AM
This is off topic, but the number of misspelled words in this thread made me forget what was being talked about :scratch:

Merton
10-18-2006, 01:59 AM
The title is a little confusing, it is not obvious which way causality goes. Is it the case that retarded people are more likely to hate Ljubicic than non-retarded people? Or is it that people that hate Ljubicic are retarded? In either case, it is highly ironic that the post complains about insults against Ljubicic but then accuses those as being retarded.

Action Jackson
10-18-2006, 02:01 AM
Why is the wheel round?

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 02:05 AM
SCREW THE HATERS! :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: Ivan will shut the haters mouth with his results in Madrid,Bercy and Shanghai!

because of posts like this, and what how sensitive the Ljubotards are about people calling their God and savior a crybaby and pisspoor sportsman. GROW UP.

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:07 AM
well champ, you got the answer in the title...because they are retarted :wavey:

RickDaStick
10-18-2006, 02:07 AM
because of posts like this, and what how sensitive the Ljubotards are about people calling their God and savior a crybaby and pisspoor sportsman. GROW UP.


you're telling people to grow up:?:haha:

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 02:08 AM
you're telling people to grow up:?:haha:

when TFC actually REPORTS ME TO THE MODS for calling Ljubo Ljubishit, that is pure immaturity. Age is irrelevent

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:08 AM
you're telling people to grow up:?:haha:

:rolls: :haha:

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:09 AM
when TFC actually REPORTS ME TO THE MODS for calling Ljubo Ljubishit, that is pure immaturity. Age is irrelevent

he's not talking about age :lol:

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 02:11 AM
he's not talking about age :lol:

Ok, it doesnt matter what you said. Ljubotards are an absolute disgrace with regards to maturity. all your nicks too

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 02:11 AM
and the cardinals are gonna lose :p

RickDaStick
10-18-2006, 02:11 AM
when TFC actually REPORTS ME TO THE MODS for calling Ljubo Ljubishit, that is pure immaturity. Age is irrelevent

I have no idea how old you are but you post so much garbage and then tell others to grow up.

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:11 AM
Ok, it doesnt matter what you said. Ljubotards are an absolute disgrace with regards to maturity. all your nicks too

i rest my case

:wavey:

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 02:12 AM
you post so much garbage

what an ironic post :rolleyes:

RickDaStick
10-18-2006, 02:15 AM
what an ironic post :rolleyes:

I beat you in the arse clown contest so i dont have much to say but you of all people to tell someone to grow up is just :haha:

alfonsojose
10-18-2006, 02:15 AM
No problem with him, but a lot of his fans are annoying :shrug:

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 02:19 AM
I beat you in the arse clown contest so i dont have much to say but you of all people to tell someone to grow up is just :haha:

why is it so funny? you havent justified your response, youve just sat there laughing like an idiot. :shrug: You said it yourself, you beat me in the arse-clown contest

RickDaStick
10-18-2006, 02:22 AM
why is it so funny? you havent justified your response, youve just sat there laughing like an idiot. :shrug: You said it yourself, you beat me in the arse-clown contest

I know no problem with you, most of your garbage is funny, its just that you of all people should not be telling anyone to grow up and i dont need to give you my reasons because anyone who's a regular on MTF knows why.

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:23 AM
why is it so funny? you havent justified your response, youve just sat there laughing like an idiot. :shrug: You said it yourself, you beat me in the arse-clown contest

i think you justified it for him with pretty much 85% of your posts

Jimnik
10-18-2006, 02:27 AM
Personally, I don't understand why anyone would hate any of my favourite players either. But all of it is explained in threads like this:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=67986

Regenbogen
10-18-2006, 02:30 AM
I don't like Ljubicic and some of his fans on here get annoying, but I don't hate him. Hating tennis players is a waste of time and brainpower :lol:

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:36 AM
I don't like Ljubicic and some of his fans on here get annoying, but I don't hate him. Hating tennis players is a waste of time and brainpower :lol:

getting annoyed by people on a forum is a waste of time :wavey:

how can anyone get annoyed by a username :lol:

partygirl
10-18-2006, 02:42 AM
i don't hate him anymore he's just my least favorite.

Ljubicic sucks!:p

General Suburbia
10-18-2006, 03:18 AM
The whole fourth page of the thread is one of the dumbest things I've come across in a while. Thank you, Ljubo, for creating more retard fans to bicker with.

Carito_90
10-18-2006, 03:20 AM
The whole fourth page of the thread is one of the dumbest things I've come across in a while. Thank you, Ljubo, for creating more retard fans to bicker with.

Word.

Mimi
10-18-2006, 04:53 AM
i think there are more hates on nadal than Ivan ;)

Veronique
10-18-2006, 05:30 AM
I dislike Ljubo for his lack of sportsmanship. The only time I root for Federer is when he's playing Ljubo. That's how much I dislike the guy. What he said about Andy at the USO 2003 was uncalled for. He re-enforced my dislike by badmouthing Rafa this year at RG.

¿esquímaux?
10-18-2006, 09:01 AM
Maybe because he isn't h@wt?

Blue Heart24
10-18-2006, 09:44 AM
Ivan doesnt know when to STFU.

he complains about everything.

he chokes

he got to no.3 by not winning a TMS or GS. Got his ass owned by federer more last year then any other player alive.

lost to freaken Feli in the first round of the USO (no disrespect feli fans :))

but still, sure he can serve, thats all he is. Vienna is a joke if he cant be broken that long, its totally a mickey mouse tournament if no one can break him there.

He also lost to blake pretty badly who he owned over a lifetime, you can aruge that he was injured, but blakes on a hot streak right now and he doesnt seem to show signs of slowing down.

Would you like to be in Semis at RG,and 3 times in AMS final? Witha that he achived NO.3!AND HE TOTALY DESERVES IT!if roodick is a better player,if nalby is a better player,if gonzo is a better player,if gashit is a better player,if Murray is a better player,WHY THE HELL THESE GUYS AREN'T AT NO.3?

Blue Heart24
10-18-2006, 09:47 AM
well champ, you got the answer in the title...because they are retarted :wavey:

Jerry,:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :lol:

Blue Heart24
10-18-2006, 09:50 AM
i don't hate him anymore he's just my least favorite.

Ljubicic sucks!:p

Roddick sucks! :lol:

adee-gee
10-18-2006, 10:04 AM
Oh man I'm gonna dish out so much stick to you idiots when Murray nails this bastard today.

Guybrush
10-18-2006, 10:12 AM
Just tell my one REASONABLE reason......Ivan is a great tennis player and a man....He is not arrogant or something! Tell my why do most people hate him?What have he done to you?WHAT!!I'm just so angry...YOU *************** A INSULTING HIM FOR NO REASON!!!!!! GO TO HELL.......THE MODERATORS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!

Why do you make a problem with this? I will always support him, no matter what some retards (most of them are just kids) think. I know that he is a great person (I've talked with him few years ago) and only that matters. What people that never had a chance to meet him think about him is not important. I know that I'm right, not them.

And it looks that only we Croatians respect the MIRACLE that he has accomplished. Become the #3 in the world after being a refugee in his childhood (when the other top players trained without any living problem) is something that goes against any odds! My respect to him for that! :worship:

Guybrush
10-18-2006, 10:15 AM
Because he is a bald

Ah yes, this is why people hate Agassi so much. Now I understand. Oh wait, Agassi is not hated. But he is bold!

Something is not right here. http://www.forum.hr/images/smilies/misli.gif

adee-gee
10-18-2006, 10:16 AM
Roddick sucks! :lol:
Yet has won more than Ljubicic could ever dream of :scratch:

When Ljubicic wins a slam and several TMS titles, then get back to me.

Guybrush
10-18-2006, 10:16 AM
Yeah,only he's no.3 and a winner of 6 atp titles!:wavey: And i forgot,THE BEST INDOOR PLAYER!KING :worship:

The second best indoor player. There is Fed above him. :)

Yergeht Fladnag
10-18-2006, 10:22 AM
Roddick sucks! :lol:
You suck, and your topic sucks. :retard:

But I guess it's pointless to discuss that with you, so I'll just put you on my ignore list, as the second most irritating Croatian retard after Ducky. :devil:

Of course, you don't have to be Croatian to be an idiot, every once in a while I use the same *cure* for other idiots like you. People whose posts just aren't worth reading: tangerine_dream, MatejBockoFan, its.like.that, Deivid23, etc. :rolleyes:

Guybrush
10-18-2006, 10:42 AM
and your topic sucks. :retard:

I agree. This topic is useless. http://www.forum.hr/images/smilies/kava.gif

Peta Pan
10-18-2006, 11:26 AM
Although can we amend the title to : WHY DO ALL THESE RETARDED PEOPLE LIKE LJUBICIC SO MUCH?
:retard:

As for hating him, he's an overrated, ugly, untalented, boring, whining big gimp.

Now Adam dear. There's no need to talk about yourself like that :kiss:

Murray has at least 3 of those catorgories covered himself :rolleyes:

CooCooCachoo
10-18-2006, 11:27 AM
Murray has at least 3 of those catorgories covered himself :rolleyes:

Four out of five ;)

He is talented, I guess.

adee-gee
10-18-2006, 12:22 PM
Now Adam dear. There's no need to talk about yourself like that :kiss:

Murray has at least 3 of those catorgories covered himself :rolleyes:

Murray is perhaps ugly and whiny. That makes 2 :p

RickDaStick
10-18-2006, 01:31 PM
Oh man I'm gonna dish out so much stick to you idiots when Murray nails this bastard today.

:haha: What happend to Ljubo going down like a bitch to Gonzo the other day. When you say he's going to lose everytime he pays you're bound to get lucky sometimes.

Pea
10-18-2006, 01:44 PM
How dare you call all rodduck fans retarded!:mad: :lol:

*Ljubica*
10-18-2006, 01:44 PM
I don't hate Ljubicic - though I can't deny that I do hate his game. I can't help it - but big servers just don't do anything for me at all - not just Ivan, but Roddick, Mirnyi, Rusedski etc - I just find them terminally boring :yawn: But that is a personal opinion, and I know that any people find the "clay court" baseline players that i support pretty boring too. That's what makes life so interesting- that everyone has different opinions. I have met Ivan and find him pleasant enough off court - though I do find his whining on court and about other players intensely irritating - a bit like a spoilt child in the playground, and he is old enough to know better. I appreciate the problems he has had in his life and respect his fight to overcome them and make something of his life - kudos to him - but I cannot like him - sorry :shrug:

Jadranka
10-18-2006, 02:27 PM
yes, this topic sucks ... ok agree with you tennisfancroatia, but .. it is too exaggerated ;)

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:39 PM
I don't hate Ljubicic - though I can't deny that I do hate his game. I can't help it - but big servers just don't do anything for me at all - not just Ivan, but Roddick, Mirnyi, Rusedski etc - I just find them terminally boring :yawn: But that is a personal opinion, and I know that any people find the "clay court" baseline players that i support pretty boring too. That's what makes life so interesting- that everyone has different opinions. I have met Ivan and find him pleasant enough off court - though I do find his whining on court and about other players intensely irritating - a bit like a spoilt child in the playground, and he is old enough to know better. I appreciate the problems he has had in his life and respect his fight to overcome them and make something of his life - kudos to him - but I cannot like him - sorry :shrug:

speaking of being old enough, i thought you might be, to know that most of stuff that Ivan says is not as bad as people and media make it out to be....i guess i was wrong :wavey:

charlie666
10-18-2006, 02:48 PM
Please repeat how many titles he has won and which ranking he has at the moment. I didn't quite get that from the last 6 pages... :retard:

El Legenda
10-18-2006, 02:50 PM
Please repeat how many titles he has won and which ranking he has at the moment. I didn't quite get that from the last 6 pages... :retard:

3 titles...60wins ranking #3

adee-gee
10-18-2006, 03:04 PM
3 titles...60wins ranking #3
And how many important titles? :scratch:

Blue Heart24
10-18-2006, 03:06 PM
3 titles...60wins ranking #3

6 titles! 3 this year :p

Blue Heart24
10-18-2006, 03:07 PM
And how many important titles? :scratch:

When you win a tournament like Vienna(Rodd,Nalbandian,Gonzalez,Gasquet.....) let me know that!

*Ljubica*
10-18-2006, 03:09 PM
speaking of being old enough, i thought you might be, to know that most of stuff that Ivan says is not as bad as people and media make it out to be....i guess i was wrong :wavey:

I am definately old enough :p Far older than Ivan!!! And of course the media everywhere are paid to exagerate and make a good "story", - but I do think that with his position on the Players' Council, Ivan should be more careful about what he says knowing how it will be interpreted. It makes him out to be a "cry baby" and alienates people which is sad for him.

bokehlicious
10-18-2006, 03:11 PM
I think actually that there are more hostile posts about Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal than any other players. It seems the more successful a player the more hostility.

Spot on.

Fed/Nadal fans better have to handle hostility towards their fave or keep away from MTF... :shrug:

adee-gee
10-18-2006, 03:26 PM
When you win a tournament like Vienna(Rodd,Nalbandian,Gonzalez,Gasquet.....) let me know that!
I wasn't the one saying that someone who has won a GS and several TMS titles sucks :lol: :retard:

Go and watch Ivan get bitched by Murray :wavey:

Veronique
10-18-2006, 06:27 PM
Can't wait for Ljubo to badmouth Murray. LOL

morningglory
10-18-2006, 06:28 PM
he's bald... and a few of his fans are annoying to no end :p (not the thread starter)

Monteque
10-18-2006, 07:05 PM
he's bald... (not the thread starter)

:devil:
I dont care he is bald or have junk hair or rocker hair as long as he is in the top 10.

cobalt60
10-18-2006, 07:10 PM
I agree with you there. :) Rafa has taken over the mantle of the "most hated player" on MTF in my opinion from Roddick and Hewitt and maybe Coria. All four of them have had really nasty stuff said about them since I joined up. And Roger is prone to having insults thrown at him here - as are others of course. I do agree that there are a number of folks who don't like Luby- but he can find plenty of other players in his boat.


But what I find funny is that some folks who get offended when posters insult their favorite player can inturn be prone themselves to say viscous and nasty things about other players. But us humans as a species are prone to hypocrisy – myself included.

Truth be told, I think that MTF can be too mean spirited at times and the hatred and vitriol thrown towards some players can really decrease my enjoyment of the boards. We don't have to all like the same players- but boy- sometimes it can get nutty. Sometimes it seems more about the hating than any actual discussion. And it does seem that over the past year and a half a lot of the posts in GM are becoming more about saying negative things over and over again without wanting to actually engage in a virtual discussion about tennis where there is actual discourse about aspects of the sport. [/gets off lil’ soapbox]

Is there room for more than one on this soapbox? Couldn't agree more. Wish there was alternative dimension;)

Jogy
10-18-2006, 11:40 PM
:haha: :haha:
Croats fans askign why people hate a player and at same time many of them are most hateful against other players?
tell me it was a joke :lol:

Ljubicic: I simply dislike or sometimes hate him big. His whining about umpires or calls (whine whine "I would have won everywhere else against Roddick but not in USA with so many calls against me") or tournaments and his stupid press conferences, his stupid mouth is talking too much crap "I'm real no 2 of the world" and such stuff. Ugly game & ugly forehand; has no hair, some stupid fans of him on MTF who are annoying. But I think in private life he is OK.

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 11:42 PM
Fed/Nadal fans better have to handle hostility towards their fave or keep away from MTF... :shrug:

wow. For once, I actually agree with you man :yeah: