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Stockholm R2: Nadal-J. Johansson

paschan
10-10-2006, 09:20 PM
Can the big swedes "Ill try to kill everything that comes at me" attitude be a winning tactic against the spaniard?

What do ya think?

(I think that he has a shot on a bigserving day..)

scarecrows
10-10-2006, 09:24 PM
oh come on

Johansson beats just grandpa Sanguinetti and now you think he stands a chance against Nadal

rofe
10-10-2006, 09:25 PM
Nadal in 2. It is too much to expect JJ to win against Nadal right now.

Adler
10-10-2006, 09:26 PM
Well, he can defeat Nadal if Rafa decides to go fishing (which is incredible thing in Sweden)

TMJordan
10-10-2006, 09:26 PM
oh come on

Johansson beats just grandpa Sanguinetti and now you think he stands a chance against Nadal

Have you seen PimPim's serve? I mean Bomb?

Nadal against big serves=:help: :help: :help:

Nadal also looking forward to next week with pressure on him and this is huge for PimPim and his comeback, will be playing in primetime in front of his home country, be careful Nadal.

Johnny Groove
10-10-2006, 09:28 PM
Have you seen PimPim's serve? I mean Bomb?

Nadal against big serves=:help: :help: :help:

Nadal also looking forward to next week with pressure on him and this is huge for PimPim and his comeback, will be playing in primetime in front of his home country, be careful Nadal.

I love them both, but Rafa more. I dont think JJ has a chance tho.

PS, happy 1000th post :bdaycake:

stebs
10-10-2006, 09:28 PM
PimPim can beat him in the future but not in R2 of this event. Too soon to beat such a good player as Rafa.

TMJordan
10-10-2006, 09:31 PM
I love them both, but Rafa more. I dont think JJ has a chance tho.

PS, happy 1000th post :bdaycake:

Thank you :wavey:

I agree it will be very hard for PimPim to do it but stranger things have happened..this match MUCH bigger for JJ and Rafa has gotta be focusing on next week right?

So maybe, just maybe PimPim could do it, besides I would rather Rafa be ready for next week than win in Sweden Indoors.

scarecrows
10-10-2006, 09:32 PM
Have you seen PimPim's serve? I mean Bomb?

Nadal against big serves=:help: :help: :help:

Nadal also looking forward to next week with pressure on him and this is huge for PimPim and his comeback, will be playing in primetime in front of his home country, be careful Nadal.

yes, I have. great serve

but if Sanguinetti gets 8 games from him then be sure that Nadal will get much more

stebs
10-10-2006, 09:39 PM
Joachim can certainly take a set in a breaker if he is serving well but Rafa will grind him down, I haven't seen him play for a long time but I can't believe that he is on top form having just come back from a huge layoff.

Neverstopfightin
10-10-2006, 09:48 PM
Rafa will have a lot of problems to break but he will win in straight tough sets . Joachim could disminish his level in the second set being easier for Rafa though

cmurray
10-10-2006, 10:05 PM
If he was at top form, he might have a shot against Rafi. But the serve isn't going to be enough, I don't think because eventually it breaks down.

Duncan
10-10-2006, 10:17 PM
Nah he wont win but it is great to see Joachim back playing again. Hope everything goes okay and we see him back in the top 20 soon!

sorrowman
10-10-2006, 10:28 PM
I think will be a very very interesting match and I believe that Nadal can be in trouble only if joachim serve his best...



P.S. Will any TV channel , have the match live to watch it?

Naranoc
10-10-2006, 10:32 PM
^ You can be sure he'll bring his best. Almost all players do against Nadal these days; playing the match of their lives :lol:

Alexiana
10-10-2006, 10:33 PM
it's to soon for Joachim I think

Nando_L
10-10-2006, 11:39 PM
Good luck Pim Pim :)
:bounce:

marcelwks
10-10-2006, 11:54 PM
I was waiting for this kind of battle but with Pim-Pim 100% . Maybe he will win one set .

NYCtennisfan
10-11-2006, 12:38 AM
JJ has the game to beat Nadal but not right now. First set will be tight with Nadal winning the second one a lot easier. I'd be surprised if JJ even gets to break point.

Neely
10-11-2006, 01:00 AM
Let the PimPim of 2004 play against Nadal then Rafa would be served out of the building :lol: But even saying that, you have to be a bit careful because you don't beat a red-hot Ljubicic from last season on an indoor surface after 0-2 set to take the next three sets if you suck at what you're doing :lol: (but I don't think Nadal is running such a form currently/already)

Maybe Johansson has a chance already in this match, I'm just not sure how to rate him. Normally Nadal should get his chances and convert them in the long term as he would probably be the player more consistent, experienced and in practice.

Byrd
10-11-2006, 01:07 AM
Does PimPim have a double-handed backhead, because at 6'6, Nadals shots will be likely coming into his hitting zone, and we've all seen Berdych and Nadals matches. Hmmm guess his form going into the match will show how well he can execute it.

GlennMirnyi
10-11-2006, 01:20 AM
Losing to Nadal may be the incentive he needs to retire. I'm afraid about this game.

GlennMirnyi
10-11-2006, 01:21 AM
Let the PimPim of 2004 play against Nadal then Rafa would be served out of the building :lol: But even saying that, you have to be a bit careful because you don't beat a red-hot Ljubicic from last season on an indoor surface after 0-2 set to take the next three sets if you suck at what you're doing :lol: (but I don't think Nadal is running such a form currently/already)

Maybe Johansson has a chance already in this match, I'm just not sure how to rate him. Normally Nadal should get his chances and convert them in the long term as he would probably be the player more consistent, experienced and in practice.

Stockholm is much faster than Madrid's blue clay.

Neely
10-11-2006, 01:27 AM
Stockholm is much faster than Madrid's blue clay.
Faster than Madrid and Vienna yes. Still it doesn't change that Ljubicic was winning on every indoor surface during this period, no matter what it was. He didn't care if one surface is a bit faster, much faster, if it hardcourt or carpet, main thing he had a roof above his head. So it was still a good achievement for Nadal at that time.

GlennMirnyi
10-11-2006, 01:30 AM
Faster than Madrid and Vienna yes. Still it doesn't change that Ljubicic was winning on every indoor surface during this period, no matter what it was. He didn't care if one surface is a bit faster, much faster, if it hardcourt or carpet, main thing he had a roof above his head. So it was still a good achievement for Nadal at that time.

That doesn't make sense. If the surface were really fast Nadal would stand no chance.

Neely
10-11-2006, 01:32 AM
Does PimPim have a double-handed backhead, because at 6'6, Nadals shots will be likely coming into his hitting zone, and we've all seen Berdych and Nadals matches. Hmmm guess his form going into the match will show how well he can execute it.
No double-handed backhand for PimPim, only exception would be he changed his style of play during his injury - which I doubt ;)

GlennMirnyi
10-11-2006, 01:33 AM
Does PimPim have a double-handed backhead, because at 6'6, Nadals shots will be likely coming into his hitting zone, and we've all seen Berdych and Nadals matches. Hmmm guess his form going into the match will show how well he can execute it.

Youzhny doesn't have a double-handed backhand.

Yappa
10-11-2006, 01:40 AM
I still remember PimPims 50+ aces match against Agassi. I couldnt believe my eyes. :lol:
His serve and fh are huge if they're on, but he can be quite erratic with his fh.

Neely
10-11-2006, 01:46 AM
I still remember PimPims 50+ aces match against Agassi. I couldnt believe my eyes. :lol:
No doubt his serve is huge and IMO it comes with better placement and angles than Roddick's or Karlovic's. His overall serving at his best would be also superior to Ljubicic, but I think Ljubicic has more variety regarding alternating the speed in his serves.

The 50+ aces were insane, but I believe the top four or five ace records for a match were all losses (Krajicek, Karlovic, Kuerten, Ivanisevic).

Xristos
10-11-2006, 04:24 AM
VAMOS RAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mangoes
10-11-2006, 04:44 AM
It's too soon for JJ to put up much opposition. I smell at least one bagel or breadstick from chef Nadal.

Deivid23
10-11-2006, 05:27 AM
I smell at least one bagel or breadstick from chef Nadal.



Someone call a doctor, please..

Magical Trevor
10-11-2006, 09:26 AM
I think it's too soon for PimPim and the surface is probably too slow for him to mount a challenge.

But it is an interesting matchup. I'd love to see these two go toe to toe in full form. I don't think anyone really has the type of power PimPim has in his forehand and serve.

FSRteam
10-11-2006, 09:41 AM
I was waiting for this kind of battle but with Pim-Pim 100% . Maybe he will win one set .

Who is this girl in your avatar?!? :eek: :eek: :eek:

FSRteam
10-11-2006, 09:44 AM
Does PimPim have a double-handed backhead, because at 6'6, Nadals shots will be likely coming into his hitting zone, and we've all seen Berdych and Nadals matches. Hmmm guess his form going into the match will show how well he can execute it.

I do think that he can defenitly destroy rafa if his serve is on! He has a better serve than roddick (better angles due to his size) and a better forhand than many players. He is a bit like berdych with a better serve! I think he has exactly the right game to beat nadal bad. The only thing is it is maybe a bit early for him.

FSRteam
10-11-2006, 09:51 AM
Faster than Madrid and Vienna yes. Still it doesn't change that Ljubicic was winning on every indoor surface during this period, no matter what it was. He didn't care if one surface is a bit faster, much faster, if it hardcourt or carpet, main thing he had a roof above his head. So it was still a good achievement for Nadal at that time.

Come on lubjo was exhausted after such a great run (11th match in 13 days!!!) and now it will be a best of 3 sets not 5 so rafa won't be able to wear the guy out!!!

nadal was just lucky it was a best of 5 sets match!

FSRteam
10-11-2006, 09:54 AM
It's too soon for JJ to put up much opposition. I smell at least one bagel or breadstick from chef Nadal.

Must be kidding!?! :confused:

If jj's serve is on, no way a bagel or stick, forget it!!!

Super-Fabio
10-11-2006, 12:40 PM
Go Pim Pim!

RonE
10-11-2006, 02:42 PM
So it will be PimPim vs. PigPig

Should be an interesting match with Rafa winning in either two tough sets or in three sets with the decider being a blowout.

Rogiman
10-11-2006, 03:10 PM
C'mon PimPim, roast PigPig :devil:

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/roasted_pig.gif

blueskye
10-11-2006, 03:47 PM
It's too soon for JJ to put up much opposition. I smell at least one bagel or breadstick from chef Nadal.

No way do I belive that he will be bageled! JJ is on his way back into the game and one of the things that separates him from alot of other players, is his amazing serve. So even though this match will sure enough be a challenge for him, I doubt he will be bageled...unless he completely chokes in front of his home crowd :angel: !

paschan
10-11-2006, 10:27 PM
told ya so.

And I enjoyed it live...:)

Sommarsverige
10-11-2006, 10:36 PM
told ya so.

And I enjoyed it live...:)

you lucky guy :)

RonE
10-11-2006, 10:54 PM
C'mon PimPim, roast PigPig :devil:

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/500/roasted_pig.gif

Anyone know of any good Swedish pork recipes? :drool:

Rogiman
10-11-2006, 10:55 PM
Anyone know of any good Swedish pork recipes? :drool:
It's already there! :D