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Calendar year Grand Slam

Fed=ATPTourkilla
10-08-2006, 08:05 PM
All the time I've watched tennis, this has been almost impossible to achieve. Every year, the Wimbledon winner gets thrashed at Roland Garros - and vice versa. The other two Slams are also extremely hard to win.

Roger has come extremely close this year, with only Nadal standing in the way. My question's this: Is it because Roger is a one-off, or is the game changing in such a way that it's now a lot easier to win all four Slams? Remember, not only did the Wimbledon winner reach the FO final, but the FO winner reached the Wimbledon final (albeit with a cupcake draw). That would have been inconceivable ten years ago.

When Roger retires, will we go back to the old days when the Wimbledon champion lost at RG to the world #75 from Spain, and the FO champion got taken out at Wimbledon by Rusedski or Arthurs or Karlovic? Or will we see the next world #1 having a shot at all four?

disturb3d
10-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Every single year it becomes more difficult to win the Grand slam.
And the fact that the two undisputed GOATs are playing simultaneously makes it near impossible.

Rod Laver succeeded because tennis was a joke in the 60s.
It is, imo, the slowest evolving sport on the planet.
Where even a few decades back, footwork and body positioning were a myth.
Players hitting balls whilst fully upright, making contact infront of the body.

A time when most other sports are coming to a stand still. Tennis is taking its first steps into evolution.
It has evolved enormously in the past decade, but as long as players like Roddick are tasting success. The sport can not be called respectable.

The no.1 in 2020 will have to be competent on all surfaces to reach that ranking, therefore there won't be early exits in either W or RG.

GlennMirnyi
10-09-2006, 12:30 AM
Every single year it becomes more difficult to win the Grand slam.
And the fact that the two undisputed GOATs are playing simultaneously makes it near impossible.

Rod Laver succeeded because tennis was a joke in the 60s.
It is, imo, the slowest evolving sport on the planet.
Where even a few decades back, footwork and body positioning were a myth.
Players hitting balls whilst fully upright, making contact infront of the body.

A time when most other sports are coming to a stand still. Tennis is taking its first steps into evolution.
It has evolved enormously in the past decade, but as long as players like Roddick are tasting success. The sport can not be called respectable.

The no.1 in 2020 will have to be competent on all surfaces to reach that ranking, therefore there won't be early exits in either W or RG.

What does GOAT mean?

Flibbertigibbet
10-09-2006, 12:43 AM
What does GOAT mean?

Greatest Of All Time.

GlennMirnyi
10-09-2006, 12:48 AM
Greatest Of All Time.

I know, I'm joking as it's obvious that Nadal is as far from being a GOAT as the Earth is from Alpha Centauri.

oschemi
10-09-2006, 12:51 AM
I know, I'm joking as it's obvious that Nadal is as far from being a GOAT as the Earth is from Alpha Centauri.

WTF??

GlennMirnyi
10-09-2006, 12:52 AM
WTF??

Since when a 2 GS and NEVER #1 is considered a "great"?

Macbrother
10-09-2006, 01:13 AM
Maybe he meant the hall of "very good."

I think the slowing down of the speed of the court (especially wimbledon) has a lot to do with it, serves more as a neutralizing affect so you don't get these vastly different surfaces and acclimating from one to the other is a lot easier.

But I think a lot also has to do with Roger Federer -- how many of the "all-time" greats were all-court players that could excel both at the baseline and at the net? There were a few, but most were either S/V based and could not adapt to clay or the other way around. As to Laver's slam, 3 of his surfaces then were grass, the other clay, not to mention the field, so that's completely incomparable difficulty wise to doing it now.

As for Nadal, I'm still amazed he went to the Wimbledon final, but a lot of it was his serve he was hitting so well, that really seemed to leave him in the hardcourt summer.