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In 2009 the Masters Cup should move to...

feuselino
10-05-2006, 05:27 PM
I am curious what the favourite place to host the Masters Cup is among MTF's readers... This discussion was started in this thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=87502), and i added some other places that were mentioned in the ongoing discussion... If you have your own idea, please post!

JMG
10-05-2006, 05:36 PM
London sounds good to me, but Frankfurt would be prefect.

~*BGT*~
10-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Other: New Orleans. What better way to show that the city is back. The Superdome would be perfect.

'Raging Bull'
10-05-2006, 05:40 PM
Stockholm would be perfect. Traditions and allready fall tournament - location also reachable.:)

alfonsojose
10-05-2006, 05:41 PM
El Cairo :D

twahumboldt06
10-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Other: New Orleans. What better way to show that the city is back. The Superdome would be perfect.

:worship: yeah! lol superbowls and final fours are cool, but having roger make a visit would be the nail in the coffin. the cresent city would be back!

Neverstopfightin
10-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Barcelona since together with Miami are two main world tennis centers

stebs
10-05-2006, 05:56 PM
I think it should stay in Asia.

~*BGT*~
10-05-2006, 05:57 PM
:worship: yeah! lol superbowls and final fours are cool, but having roger make a visit would be the nail in the coffin. the cresent city would be back!

I'd love it!! I live in Baton Rouge so that's just a 1 hour drive for me. Or if I decide to go to Tulane, that's just 15 minute walk!! :D

Fed-Express
10-05-2006, 06:02 PM
The U.S. would be a ridiculoud choice, they are already having aa GS, the two biggest TMS, another TMS, and several IS tournaments. But since the ATP is based in the States they might actually be so stupid. South America or Africa (maybe Capetown in South Africa), every region that has a tradition of good players but no big event should be considered as a possible place for the TMC.

~*BGT*~
10-05-2006, 06:06 PM
The US is a big country. The only big tournament in the south is Miami and that's maybe 2 days away from me. obviously, they can't plan the TMC around my location ;) but I do agree to some extent. that the US has a lot of the bug tournaments.

Hendu
10-05-2006, 06:12 PM
In South America.

Lots of players in the top 100, tennis tradition, lots of tennis fans, no big tournaments. Time Zone and facilities wouldn't be an issue.

LaTenista
10-05-2006, 06:14 PM
I voted for London - Royal Albert Hall is used for some tennis exhibitions and I think the last seniors event of the year.

I think it makes the most sense to keep it in or near Europe as the tour ends in Paris.

Fed-Express
10-05-2006, 06:15 PM
The US is a big country. The only big tournament in the south is Miami and that's maybe 2 days away from me. obviously, they can't plan the TMC around my location ;) but I do agree to some extent. that the US has a lot of the bug tournaments.

I know how you feel, I would also like to have the TMC around the corner ;)
And you are right, the US are huge, I have just spent my summer traveling the eastcoast. But wouldn't it be great if tennis would be brought to people, who do not have several tournaments each year in their country like in the US or Western Europe.
These regions are so well developed tennis-wise, and I think bringing the TMC to a country like Brazil, South Africa or Argentina would be a great promotion for the sport in these areas as many people who NEVER had the chance of seeing a tennis match live (apart from the local club of course) would have the chance to do so.
They would feel as if the really "belonged" to this global, international and wonderful sport, whereas at the moment there is AFAIK only four small tournaments in whole South America and only one tournament in Africa (!). So, hopefully the ATP will try to make the sport even more international.

scarecrows
10-05-2006, 06:19 PM
South Africa

ezekiel
10-05-2006, 06:20 PM
logical choice is south america as they don't have a big tourney as long as it's not on clay. But the problem is that it's spring in november then which means it's pretty hot and I guess no indoor facilities.

Other possibility is somewhere in euroasia but I can't think of a really great location there especially europe which has too many tourneys as it is

revolution
10-05-2006, 06:23 PM
London would be nice but the clay courters hate it and won't be going :p

Hendu
10-05-2006, 06:25 PM
logical choice is south america as they don't have a big tourney as long as it's not on clay. But the problem is that it's spring in november then which means it's pretty hot and I guess no indoor facilities.

Other possibility is somewhere in euroasia but I can't think of a really great location there especially europe which has too many tourneys as it is

The new 14.500 seats stadium in Buenos Aires (where the DC tie against Australia was played), will have a moving roof by then (it will be ready next year).

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/06/569760.JPG

Xristos
10-05-2006, 06:26 PM
Anywhere, it doesnt matter.

All I wont is the old courts without the doubles line....

Jimnik
10-05-2006, 06:32 PM
I would love to say London but I'm not sure we deserve it. Maybe Buenos Aires, but they should try to lay a hard court.

Hopefully, the venue will change every year. There are loads of major cities that should get a chance.

Hendu
10-05-2006, 06:39 PM
I would love to say London but I'm not sure we deserve it. Maybe Buenos Aires, but they should try to lay a hard court.

Hopefully, the venue will change every year. There are loads of major cities that should get a chance.

Not a problem. Clay, carpet, hard or rebound ace are possible on that stadium.

It will be also used for basketball, voleyball, concerts and all kind of shows.

ChinoRios4Ever
10-05-2006, 06:40 PM
It's Southamerica time baby

virex
10-05-2006, 06:41 PM
The new 14.500 seats stadium in Buenos Aires (where the DC tie against Australia was played), will have a moving roof by then (it will be ready next year).



even if i had to take a bus, i´d go to see that

ReturnWinner
10-05-2006, 06:43 PM
Kabul and Baghdad are the best options

Lee
10-05-2006, 06:43 PM
I agree South America is a good place for the next few years.

tennisgal_001
10-05-2006, 06:49 PM
South America, or Africa. Asia got its share with Shanghai, and Europe and NA are busy every week of the year.

BATES
10-05-2006, 06:56 PM
North America: No way (1 GS, 4 MS)
Europe: Definitely No (2 GS, 5 MS)
Oceania: No No (1 GS)
Asia: No (Masters Cup)

Then, the contest should be between
Africa: South Africa
South America: Argentina, Brazil

Among these three countries I believe the MC should be hosted in Argentina, since it has become a tennis power, and has more tradition than south-africans and brazilians. Besides, Argentina has now the biggest and most modern tennis stadium in both South America and Africa, fulfilling all ATP requirements:

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/09/23/fotos/t076dh01.jpg

PS: I live in Buenos Aires indeed :wavey:

Fed-Express
10-05-2006, 07:57 PM
Wait, you are saying no to Asia because they have the Master Cup but you think at the same time it should be moved to BA?
However, Buenos Aires is a great city and South America has produced great champions so I think a big event would be well-deserved.

canbera
10-05-2006, 08:35 PM
the two biggest TMS, another TMS

wow, I have never known. what are those 2 biggest TMS? Indian Wells and Miami? what makes those Masters Series events bigger than others?

Fed-Express
10-05-2006, 09:09 PM
Well, firstly, these TMS have a field of 96 players, which means that the 32 seeds get a bye in the first round. Everybody else has to play 7 matches to win the event, like a GS. Of course from 1r to SF it is best-of-three format.
Due to the larger draw these events do not begin monday and end Sunday but start on Friday and end on Sunday, that makes it 10 days of tennis.
Furthermore, the winners earn more money than in the other TMS, if I am not mistaken a total of 3 - 3,500,000 $ (Indian Wells/ Miami) is awarded to the players opposed to 2 - 2,500,000 $ at the other events.
Rankingwise they count the same of course.

Johnny Groove
10-05-2006, 09:13 PM
they should obviously play on the moon, with a huge dome facility and moon clay :yeah:

Alvarillo
10-05-2006, 09:19 PM
in the poll mi home of course, MADRID!!!
but we already host an AMS so Bs.Aires, Valencia or Copenhague would be my options!

Mane
10-05-2006, 09:26 PM
Germany

Boris Franz Ecker
10-05-2006, 09:53 PM
Basel.
Federer would be happy and who doubts, that he will qualify?

And of course indoors, not again playing in the rain as in the desert.
Maybe in the new state-of-the-art Roger Federer Arena.

*Ljubica*
10-05-2006, 09:59 PM
From a selfish point of view I would say London - if not, I agree with the posters who said Cpenhagen and Stockholm - both great cities with good facilities and easy to travel to from anywhere in the world.

hammett
10-05-2006, 09:59 PM
North America: No way (1 GS, 4 MS)
Europe: Definitely No (2 GS, 5 MS)
Oceania: No No (1 GS)
Asia: No (Masters Cup)

Then, the contest should be between
Africa: South Africa
South America: Argentina, Brazil

Among these three countries I believe the MC should be hosted in Argentina

:scratch: I think you would need a lot of money in order to host an event like the MC and I really doubt someone here would put it.

lorenz
10-05-2006, 10:16 PM
Buenos Aires can be an excellent host for the Masters Cup and/or a National.

Peoples
10-05-2006, 10:20 PM
L.A. at the Staples center would be cool.

In Argentina, in your dreams :rolleyes:

FerrersLinda
10-05-2006, 11:13 PM
Alajuela, Costa Rica.
My house will be the official players-hotel.:lol:

scarecrows
10-05-2006, 11:39 PM
they'll not play TMC on clay this time of the season

ezekiel
10-05-2006, 11:47 PM
From a selfish point of view I would say London - if not, I agree with the posters who said Cpenhagen and Stockholm - both great cities with good facilities and easy to travel to from anywhere in the world.

except northern europe is pretty cold that time of the year but a good suggestion

rmb6687
10-06-2006, 12:04 AM
South Africa will be getting ready for the World Cup but maybe by then, a few of the stadiums will be completed. If not there will still be a lot of construction going on.

Either way, I hope I have enough money to get to whereever it is. And I kinda hope it isn't in Asia...that's about the farthest it could possible get for me, and its been in Sanghai for two years...it's time for a different continent. And i'd def go for one of the Russian cities...and then I could practice!

Regenbogen
10-06-2006, 12:07 AM
South Africa will be getting ready for the World Cup but maybe by then, a few of the stadiums will be completed. If not there will still be a lot of construction going on.

Either way, I hope I have enough money to get to whereever it is. And I kinda hope it isn't in Asia...that's about the farthest it could possible get for me, and its been in Sanghai for two years...it's time for a different continent. And i'd def go for one of the Russian cities...and then I could practice!

yeah I want it somwhere I can go :lol:

It would be nice to have it in some totally different place I guess

Checho
10-06-2006, 12:36 AM
they'll not play TMC on clay this time of the season


Do you think that we only have clay courts in Argentina?? We can do it on any surface but grass.

The main problem isn't the surface, it is the money because no one supports tennis here.

soraya
10-06-2006, 12:51 AM
South Africa

I second that;)

soraya
10-06-2006, 12:57 AM
Not a problem. Clay, carpet, hard or rebound ace are possible on that stadium.

It will be also used for basketball, voleyball, concerts and all kind of shows.

beautiful stadium, is it a lake/river around it?

kyleskywalker007
10-06-2006, 02:03 AM
obviously it may sound impartial that i say Buenos Aires, because i am argentinian, but if u think well you'll see it is a fair thing, i think the argentinian tennis deserves that.
And it shouldn't be done in USA at all!!!!Not because i have something against USA but because they already have many important tournaments...

Caralimon
10-06-2006, 02:05 AM
It will be played wherever the money is.

Regenbogen
10-06-2006, 02:36 AM
obviously it may sound impartial that i say Buenos Aires, because i am argentinian, but if u think well you'll see it is a fair thing, i think the argentinian tennis deserves that.
And it shouldn't be done in USA at all!!!!Not because i have something against USA but because they already have many important tournaments...

I don't want it in the US because it already had it there. I want something new :D

azza
10-06-2006, 03:27 AM
sydney

Hendu
10-06-2006, 04:24 AM
beautiful stadium, is it a lake/river around it?


There is a river (that looks good only from some distance, since it is very contaminated) and also an artificial lake. The park where the stadium is located, will have many other tennis courts and a tennis academy. Also other buildings will be built to create "la ciudad del basquet" (the Basketball City), that will work as the training center for the basketball national team.

If a National (the new tournament category the ATP will create), is played in Buenos Aires, then it is probable that it will be held in this park, with this stadium as the main court.
Buenos Aires competes with Acapulco to organize the new tournament, that would start in 2009.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/visual/fotos/davis.jpg

Action Jackson
10-06-2006, 05:08 AM
Mogadishu

Hendu
10-06-2006, 05:19 AM
Mogadishu

That would definitely be favorable for the development of the often forgotten Somali tennis.

CmonAussie
10-06-2006, 05:40 AM
sydney
:wavey:
Yeah I`d be happy if it were in Sydney;) ...#Seriously that Sydney Superdome is the perfect venue for something like a TMC:cool: .....--->>Though I suspect Sydney won`t be considered again in the short term purely because other parts of the World [a la China, Spain] can throw a lot more money at it:sad:

Did you know that the Sydney Indoor played until the early 1990`s was very close to being granted Super-9/TMS status:p ....Unfortunately Sydney Indoor lost out to Stockholm- which subsequently went to Stuttgart & presently the AMS we know as Madrid:devil: :angel:

Björki
10-06-2006, 06:33 AM
Germany :D

Puschkin
10-06-2006, 07:29 AM
I voted Prague. It is a beautiful city, tennis does have a tradition in the Czech Republic and I could go there.

On a more serious note: Asia in general is ok, but there are already huge tournaments in London and Paris, they don't need an additional one.

ugotlobbed
10-06-2006, 07:36 AM
SWITZERLAND

Adler
10-06-2006, 07:47 AM
South Africa, although I'm not so sure if there are enough tennis fans :)

soraya
10-06-2006, 08:18 AM
Mogadishu

The warlords will have a field day and fighting over who to abduct first.

njorker
10-06-2006, 02:46 PM
Asia, baby! Preferably in Manila, my hometown. There are no tennis tourneys here whatsoever and it's a perfect way to develop the tennis in this country. Although, I think the TMC would be a huge event for Manila, so maybe it's too big a dream. We should start with small tourneys first....Manila Open sounds good. ;)

bokehlicious
10-06-2006, 02:51 PM
SWITZERLAND

:yeah: As a tribute to Roger and Martina :o

sorrowman
10-06-2006, 02:54 PM
The surface of Masters cup is only hardcourt?Or it can be change?Maybe after 2009 on clay court?:)

victory1
10-06-2006, 03:10 PM
The surface of Masters cup is only hardcourt?Or it can be change?Maybe after 2009 on clay court?:)

I dont think it will be played on clay anytime soon; because usually in the top 8, you never have more then 2 players that can say that their best surface is clay (you have players in the top 8 that CAN play on clay but usually that's not their best surface except for maybe 1 or 2 in any giving year).

Julio1974
10-06-2006, 03:22 PM
Moscow, Buenos Aires or any city in South Africa would be great to me.
No Western Euorpe or the US please.

Checho
10-06-2006, 03:24 PM
I dont think it will be played on clay anytime soon; because usually in the top 8, you never have more then 2 players that can say that their best surface is clay (you have players in the top 8 that CAN play on clay but usually that's not their best surface except for maybe 1 or 2 in any giving year).


Injuries apart, last year the Master Cup was played by four guys (Gastón Gaudio, Guillermo Coria, Fernando González and Mariano Puerta) which his favourite surface is the clay.

And i can add Davydenko too, but i'm not really sure which is his favourite surface.

Trivial
10-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Maybe due to national bias i have gone for London. The reason i chose the city is that i believe the U.K has a distinct lack of top class events, only having one big tourney in a country that has the money and the facilities to put on a great show seems such a waste. I do think that if the tournament were to be held in a country such as Argentina, yes the stadium would be nice, but the extra facilities and atmosphere would be nowhere as good as they have been in Shanghai. This i do believe is something that England/London could offer. I will have to say a definite 'no' to another big event being held in the U.S; im not doubting they it would be a great, well organised tournament but they've already got so much.

feuselino
10-06-2006, 03:53 PM
Mogadishu


:worship:

I love the idea!! There is a great potential hidden... possible slogan: "The Master's Cup in Mogadishu - The winner takes it all*!"






*inlcuding a safe passage back to the main airport (or central donkey station)...

Yappa
10-06-2006, 04:01 PM
As long as the atmosphere is great and it's not in Asia (due to the timezone), I dont care too much where.

Jadranka
10-06-2006, 07:46 PM
Stockholm would be perfect :)

sorrowman
10-07-2006, 04:56 PM
I dont think it will be played on clay anytime soon; because usually in the top 8, you never have more then 2 players that can say that their best surface is clay (you have players in the top 8 that CAN play on clay but usually that's not their best surface except for maybe 1 or 2 in any giving year).

:confused: Players will select the surface ??

lolyriality
10-12-2006, 08:55 PM
:wavey: I would like Madrid, but....we have the Master, so it's very difficult.

RogiFan88
10-12-2006, 09:20 PM
I say why not in Canada... outdoor hockey rink... don't forget your earmuffs, boots and ski jackets... ;) We need a break from hockey, hockey, hockey.

musefanatic
10-12-2006, 09:21 PM
Hopefully not London, what the point is it having in a country where we can only just muster up a damn Davs Cup team!!

stebs
10-12-2006, 11:06 PM
I still would like it to remian in Asia. Otherwise what big tournament will be there to promote tennis in that part of the world. It also seems really nice to have the final tournament in a place which is so utterly different to all the other big stops in the calendar.

mrserenawilliams
10-13-2006, 08:06 AM
It should be held in the nation's capital of the defending champ. That would make it interesting, and for the under-televised nations, it would increase tourism.

Seneca
10-13-2006, 08:47 AM
As the only major event in a huge market area I see very little reason to move the TMC anywhere far from it's current location.

Fed-Express
10-13-2006, 09:28 AM
That is definetely true, tennis is a fast growing sport in China. I was surprised how enthusiastic the fans were at this year's China Open in Beijing. But, you know, reason is not one of DeVilliers' strenghts.

Agassi Aces
10-13-2006, 09:28 AM
BRING ON LONDON!!!!!!!!

buddyholly
10-13-2006, 02:24 PM
You left the US out of your poll, presumably because you think even tennis should be political. But for the best of the best, only New York will do.

buddyholly
10-13-2006, 02:36 PM
Alajuela, Costa Rica.
My house will be the official players-hotel.:lol:

But of course! Cancel New York. And Alajuela is right beside the airport, so the losers could go straight home. JA Marin could get a wild card. But best of all, I would only be 15 minutes away from the venue, by mule.

If not Alajuela, then Phuket. It is clear from the blogs that tennis pros consider endless massages to be the number one off-court activity, and Phuket has that in spades.

Cristine
10-13-2006, 02:40 PM
Buenos Aires would be great, since Argentina has a lot of good players, and just one ATP tournament.

revolution
10-13-2006, 02:49 PM
Liverpool. :p

bad gambler
10-13-2006, 02:53 PM
Sydney

Neverstopfightin
10-13-2006, 03:19 PM
Pyongyang .

I guess if ATP players hadn't problems to play Bangkok open , it would be the same for North Korea as long as the prize money is ensured , which is the only important thing for them :rolleyes:

dEcu_RF
10-13-2006, 03:21 PM
Barcelona

njorker
10-13-2006, 04:16 PM
It should be held in the nation's capital of the defending champ. That would make it interesting, and for the under-televised nations, it would increase tourism.

That would be a great idea...if not for the fact/assumption that Fed may win TMCs every year, then only Switzerland would benefit from that.

NeverSayDie
10-13-2006, 04:21 PM
London!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

Just Cause
10-13-2006, 04:24 PM
NEW YORK NEW YORK.

LoveFifteen
10-13-2006, 09:46 PM
It should be in Buenos Aires. :)

And they need to make the ballboys all 18-24 years old. And wearing only briefs. :drool:

marti_228
10-14-2006, 12:42 AM
It should be in Buenos Aires. :)

And they need to make the ballboys all 18-24 years old. And wearing only briefs. :drool:

haha:) ....It would be great for me if we host th TMC