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~*~Vamos Rafa At Madrid Masters!!~*~

veyonce
10-03-2006, 02:38 AM
Credits to nou.amic of vb.com for the translation!!

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7492/amsmadridrj8og2.gif

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/tenis/es/desarrollo/694708.html

FINAL ENTRY LIST TO BE MADE KNOWN 13 OCTOBER

Nadal presents Madrid Masters - Not yet known if Federer will play

Rafael Nadal returns to Madrid 16 - 22 October to defend his Masters Series title. This will be the fifth year the tournament has been held in the Madrid Arena. It will not be known until the ATP publishes the final entry list on 13 October whether Roger Federer, who has not played in Madrid since he was defeated by Ferrero three years ago, will be taking part.

Theoretically, the Mutua Madrileña Masters Madrid ($2.2M) will bring together the top 48 players on the ATP tour, among them the world number 1 and number 2, Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal, as well as Spaniards Tommy Robredo, David Ferrer, Juan Carlos Ferrero, Fernando Verdasco, Carlos Moyá and Nicolás Almagro, the US's Andy Roddick and last year's runner up Ivan Ljubicic of Croatia.

What is already known is that tickets for the weekend are sold out and that the first special invitation (wildcard) has been given to Spain's Carlos Moyá, No.43 in the world. "He has been world number one and the organization will never forget what happened the first year, when Jiri Novak was injured and could not play the final against Agassi, and Carlos agreed to play an exhibition match against Clavet. He is a very great player and it is a great honour to have him among us," said Manolo Santana, tournament director.

Santana also recalled the emotion he felt watching Nadal fight for the title in this year's Wimbledon final. "Rafa has given us some unforgettable moments, winning Roland Garros twice and playing in what we all think is the greatest final, Wimbledon. 40 years ago I had the good luck or the skill to win it and I know that sooner or later," here he turned to speak directly to the world number two, "you will end up winning it too."

Jogg
10-03-2006, 08:47 PM
thanks veyonce

mallorn
10-05-2006, 09:08 PM
From FOX Sports:
Federer confirmed to play in Madrid Masters

MADRID, Spain (AP) - Roger Federer will play at the Madrid Masters for the first time in three years.

The top-ranked Swiss star tore a ligament in his right foot last year, and missed the 2004 tournament due to fatigue and personal reasons.

"Roger will arrive in Madrid (next Friday)," tournament organizer Manolo Santana said Thursday. "We are very happy to count Roger in the tournament this year."

Federer's best finish at the indoor hard-court event was the semifinals in 2002 and '03.

Defending champion Rafael Nadal is also confirmed for the Oct. 14-22 event, meaning the world's two best players could meet in the final for the first time since Federer won his third straight Wimbledon title.
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/6033704

Johnny Groove
10-05-2006, 09:09 PM
Roger in Spain :drool:

mallorn
10-05-2006, 09:26 PM
^^^ It could get very interesting indeed. :cool:

From the ATP site:
MUTUA MADRILENA MADRID MASTERS
Madrid, Spain

October 3, 2006
Nadal Attends Madrid Launch Ceremony

http://www.atptennis.com/5/photos/shared/2006/180x250/nadal_madrid.jpg
© ATP

Rafael NadalATP World No. 2 Rafael Nadal attended the launch ceremony of Mutua Madrilena Madrid Masters 2006 in the Spanish capital on Monday.

The campaign at this year’s ATP Masters Series event is “iguales”, which means “the same” and also “deuce” in Spanish.

Nadal, who captured the title over Ivan Ljubicic last year, told the media and event sponsors of how he enjoys playing in front of a Spanish audience whether it is at ATP tournaments in Barcelona, Madrid and Valencia or on Davis Cup duty.

“It’s a special motivation to play tennis in front of them all, unfortunately it only happens a couple of times a year,” he said. “I remember how the home support helped me fight back against Ljubicic in the Masters Series final last year.”

As well as helping to promote the event, which begins on October 16, the 20-year-old visited the Santiago Bernabéu stadium to watch the capital’s derby between rivals Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid, which ended in a 1-1 draw.

Nadal, who has already qualified for Tennis Masters Cup Shanghai, has won five ATP-level titles this season (ATP Masters Series Monte Carlo, ATP Masters Series Rome, Barcelona, Dubai, Roland Garros) and holds a 54-8 match record.

He returns to the ATP circuit in Stockholm next week.

http://www.atptennis.com/en/newsandscores/news/2006/nadal_madrid.asp

MariaV
10-12-2006, 09:09 AM
Time to move on to Madrid I guess. Rafa will play the doubles with Feli again. Should be lovely. :D I hope you understand Spanish well enough without translation. ;) Basically it says they've played together 4 times this season their best result being the qf in Dubai.

‘Feli’ jugará con Nadal
La competición de dobles tendrá un atractivo adicional, la presencia del dúo Feliciano López y Nadal. El manacorí ha disputado sólo cinco torneos esta temporada y, en cuatro de ellos, ya compartió pista con su amigo. Su mejor resultado, cuartos de Dubai.

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/tenis/es/desarrollo/698061.html

Xristos
10-12-2006, 09:28 AM
VAMOS!

KiwiChica
10-14-2006, 09:30 AM
So can't wait to be there live and witness the spectacle with my own eyes.

Hope he'll do well there.

VAMOS RAFA!!!

mallorn
10-14-2006, 11:29 AM
Info found on VB.com: Rafa's supposed to come to Madrid this afternoon and is to practise from 17:30 to 19:30 with Nicolás Massu. According to As.com, he'll be staying in the Silken Puerta de America Hotel, which has every floor designed by a different architect. He was supposed to stay on the same floor as Roger, but Roger asked to be moved to a different floor...d'you think he didn't like the design? :lol:

A tournament preview, from Reuters: (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=tennisNews&storyID=2006-10-14T090255Z_01_L14635477_RTRIDST_0_SPORT-TENNIS-MASTERS-PREVIEW.XML&WTmodLoc=SportsLanding-C7-Tennis-2)
PREVIEW-Nadal looking past Federer in Madrid defence

Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:05 AM BST
By Simon Baskett

MADRID, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Rafael Nadal is hoping the presence of world number one Roger Federer at next week's Madrid Masters will not prevent him from becoming the first player to defend the hardcourt title.

The 20-year-old Spaniard came from two sets down to beat Croatia's Ivan Ljubicic in a five-set thriller at the Madrid Arena last year but Federer did not play in the tournament.

The Swiss missed out because of a foot injury and will be anxious to continue a sensational season with a triumph at one of only four Master Series titles to elude him.

The 25-year-old's best result in Madrid was reaching the semi-finals in 2003, where he lost to eventual winner Juan Carlos Ferrero.

Such is the domination of the world's top two players that they have won 13 of the 16 Masters Series events in the last two years.

Although Federer is still streets ahead of Nadal in overall tournament victories, adding three more grand slams to his haul this season, the Spaniard has beaten him in four of their five meetings this year.

But the big two will not have it all their own way as every one of the world's top 10 players will be in Madrid as well as past winners Ferrero and Marat Safin, Gaston Gaudio and British pair Tim Henman and Andrew Murray.

Last year's losing finalist Ljubicic, in-form James Blake, unpredictable Marcos Baghdatis and Russia's Nikolay Davydenko should all provide stiff resistance as they compete for points to secure places in the end-of-season Masters Cup in Shanghai.

"Obviously I would love to retain the title in Madrid," Nadal was quoted as saying in Spanish sports daily AS on Saturday.

"But this time all the world's best will be here and the surface isn't my favourite.

"For me this is simply one of the best tournaments in the world. Last year I'd practically lost the final and the support of the fans helped me turn the match around. That is an experience I will never forget.

"From the perspective of the fans the presence of Federer will make the event even more spectacular."

As well as the now traditional models as ball girls, the Madrid tournament will also feature the "hawk-eye" officiating technology that allows players to challenge and review calls.

Each player will be allowed two challenges per set plus an additional one in the event of a tiebreaker. If the player is correct he retains his challenges, if not one of them is lost.

The system has been used successfully at three Masters Series events in North America as well as the U.S. Open and six other ATP events.

The tournament gets underway on Monday with the final on Oct. 22.

atheneglaukopis
10-14-2006, 03:30 PM
From FOX Sports:
since Federer won his third straight Wimbledon title.Say what? :p

Anyway, good luck to Rafa next week. I know this is one tournament he really wants to do well at.

Johnny Groove
10-14-2006, 03:55 PM
not on the same floor? so no late-night sex sessions? :awww:

atheneglaukopis
10-14-2006, 04:36 PM
not on the same floor? so no late-night sex sessions? :awww:What the papers didn't report is that Uncle Toni Almighty requested to have Roger moved, as he had Xisca sent away (although for some reason Feli's allowed to play doubles with him :confused: ), and that Roger and Rafa are now investigating the layout of the various fire escapes around the hotel so as best to hold their romantic trysts.

Sunset of Age
10-14-2006, 07:35 PM
What the papers didn't report is that Uncle Toni Almighty requested to have Roger moved, as he had Xisca sent away (although for some reason Feli's allowed to play doubles with him :confused: ), and that Roger and Rafa are now investigating the layout of the various fire escapes around the hotel so as best to hold their romantic trysts.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

I'm sure they'll find out how to bump into each other anyway. :devil:

Johnny Groove
10-14-2006, 08:11 PM
What the papers didn't report is that Uncle Toni Almighty requested to have Roger moved, as he had Xisca sent away (although for some reason Feli's allowed to play doubles with him :confused: ), and that Roger and Rafa are now investigating the layout of the various fire escapes around the hotel so as best to hold their romantic trysts.

I dont understand why they cant call up Andy and Marat and have a REAL slash :devil:

NeverSayDie
10-15-2006, 10:49 AM
Just popped by to say Vamos Rafa in Madrid!!! I hope he retains his title :yeah:

edit: He's got a bye first round, then maybe Malisse, Hass, Roddick/ Berdych :banghead: bad bad draw :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
10-15-2006, 02:33 PM
Anyone here knows when Rafa will be playing his first match?

mallorn
10-15-2006, 02:52 PM
When he was asked about playing doubles with Feli he said it was better for him to have some practice before Wednesday, so I'm guessing Wed. He and Feli play the third seeds, Knowles/Nestor, so it'll probably be just the one match for them. ;)

Doubles draw (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2006/1536/MDD.pdf) Singles draw (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2006/1536/MDS.pdf)

BTW, in the same interview Rafa says he's changed his serve a bit - that would explain the very poor stats in Stockholm.
http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_526.htm

Sunset of Age
10-15-2006, 02:56 PM
When he was asked about playing doubles with Feli he said it was better for him to have some practice before Wednesday, so I'm guessing Wed. He and Feli play the third seeds, Knowles/Nestor, so it'll probably be just the one match for them. ;)

Doubles draw (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2006/1536/MDD.pdf) Singles draw (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2006/1536/MDS.pdf)

BTW, in the same interview Rafa says he's changed his serve a bit - that would explain the very poor stats in Stockholm.
http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_526.htm

Thankees! I guess so, too.
Ah, and I hope he gets that service of him working again - was a mite painful in Stockholm.

MariaV
10-15-2006, 03:59 PM
When he was asked about playing doubles with Feli he said it was better for him to have some practice before Wednesday, so I'm guessing Wed. He and Feli play the third seeds, Knowles/Nestor, so it'll probably be just the one match for them. ;)

Doubles draw (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2006/1536/MDD.pdf) Singles draw (http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2006/1536/MDS.pdf)

BTW, in the same interview Rafa says he's changed his serve a bit - that would explain the very poor stats in Stockholm.
http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_526.htm

Thanks Ania. :kiss: Yeah, but he better get this 'new' serve to work in Madrid! The draw is really tough so all the luck to Rafa! VAMOS!!!!! :banana: :bounce: :bigclap:

Johnny Groove
10-15-2006, 04:17 PM
he changed his serve? couldnt he have waited until the off-season? :awww:

mallorn
10-15-2006, 04:31 PM
What off-season? :p

He says his big goal is AO, so he can't make changes to his serve right before it, can he? He only has the Madrid points to defend this year, so I think it's a good time to tweak his strokes.

NaDALiTa
10-15-2006, 05:23 PM
Yesterday Rafa was at the Real Madrid's match, the poor boy didn"t watch the match because of the kids that asked him autographs and also because he was eating his crisps :lol: :lol: ..............he didn't miss a lot of things on the pitch :taped:

He also trained a bit with JC Ferrero, he seemed very cool, and happy :)

Jogg
10-15-2006, 06:21 PM
:scared: ouch tough draw

:bounce: Vamos Rafa :bounce: Hope the new serve will be working well

Castafiore
10-16-2006, 12:54 PM
Mardy Fish defeated Malisse in 3 sets today so Fish will be Rafa's first opponent.

NeverSayDie
10-16-2006, 04:45 PM
Mardy Fish defeated Malisse in 3 sets today so Fish will be Rafa's first opponent.

Vamos Rafa!!!!!!!! Hopefully he can win :yeah:

Castafiore
10-17-2006, 10:24 AM
This place stays rather empty if Mallorn doesn't bring us info, doesn't it?

Bits of info:
1. Rafa plays doubles today with Feliciano Lopez.
Pista Alcala - not before 4.00 pm

2. Apparently, the security at the Madrid Masters prohibits Rafa to give autographs at his training sessions. The problem is that so many people come to watch Rafa. There has been pandemonium and they fear that kids might get crushed.

From: Marca
POR SU PROPIA INTEGRIDAD FÍSICA Y LA DE LOS AFICIONADOS

La seguridad prohíbe a Rafa Nadal firmar autógrafos
JOAN SOLSONA. Madrid

Los más de siete mil aficionados que han acudido este fin de semana al Madrid Arena querían regresar a casa con un autógrafo de su ídolo, Rafa Nadal. El manacorí pasa mucho tiempo estampando su firma a sus seguidores a la conclusión de los entrenamientos. Sin embargo, los miembros de seguridad del Mutua Madrileña Masters de Madrid ya le han aconsejado que no se quede a dar autógrafos como prevención de accidentes. “No me dejan firmar autógrafos. La seguridad ha dicho que las puertas de las pistas, si se acumula allí mucha gente, se pueden romper”, explica Nadal. A pesar de ello, algún afortunado sí ha tenido la suerte de llevarse a casa el nombre del joven tenista balear estampado en algunas bolas

3. Translated by Patxy from vamosbrigade.com:
Nadal’s metamorphosis

The Spaniard, concerned about his left foot, opts for an aggressive game and shortens his season
JUAN JOSÉ MATEO - Madrid
EL PAÍS - Deportes - 16-10-2006



Rafa Nadal was entrusted with an impossible mission. Or three at the same time. The first: to hold his champion’s title of the Masters Madrid. The second: to achieve it knowing that on the other side is Roger Federer. And the third: to achieve it, by desisting of his ‘magic formula’, the sweat, agony and impossible shots, the mixture that led him to obtain 17 titles, 178 matches and almost 6 million and a half of euros only in prizes since 2001. Nadal is mutating. He arrives to Madrid in the very process of his reinvention. And that’s why, because he’s concerned about his left foot, that doctors have recommended him to take precautions, to be careful, to not force, to not put too much weight on his foot, the majorcan feels “a bit less confident” and nearly to a plan in order to change his game’s style.

"His problem has to do with a medical problem”, declares Toni Nadal, uncle and trainer of the Spaniard champion, who arrives today to Madrid in order to coach him during the tournament. "We have played much less matches this season, almost half than the last one and much less tournaments. That’s why Rafa is found more fresh mentally and game as well. The problem is that when you train less you pay the consequences and we couldn’t keep this pace of training: we must go carefully. And I’m worried about that".

"All this time, Rafa’s tennis has been based on work. And now we have worked less. It is complicated. Rafa used to be very well physical and mentally, apart of returning very good balls from the baselines. Now he can do this less often. We have to re-guide him in order to serve in a higher level. And that is a process of time. I am doing this only for his foot, to see the way to put some weight out of his foot. His age is on his side, he can improve. He is in a process of formation. He’s trying to change things, like to serve better and that takes a different preparation. Although that, obviously, means to fail a bit more now"

The short Nadal’s team have been analyzing his game, prevented of the toughness of the competition’s callendar and the state of his left foot, until they ended up with a surprising conclusion: the cause of all his problems comes from his childhood. "Before, when he played junior tournaments, Rafa used to take the initiative, but, as soon as he joined the ATP competition, he had to adjust his game at just serving and give the initiative away, leaving behind the prority of serving fast and tough to see if he could win the point", analyzes Toni Nadal. Here it comes the problem: "If you serve first at 120 kmtrs/h. , you can’t aspire to anything. Since he joined the competition, he had to try to play first serves, risking almost nothing: that’s why during many seasons he has been among the top of the ranking of first serve percentage. But that is because he serves poorly. And everything has its origin here: to run more than your capacity, for example. The solution: "He must be more aggressive. In the baseline game for example, he must try to play the ball close to the net”, says Toni.

The excelent results of Nadal have came along with a big physical exhaustion. Last year he won the Madrid Masters, which is played on fast court – the most harmful for articulations- among with magnetic resognances, which were indicating match by match if his left knee and foot were able to tolerate until the end of the tournament. Those were hard times. So much so he ended the season injured. Will the problem repeat again this year? "No. It’s not about a chronical injury", explains Ángel Ruíz-Cotorro, his doctor and the RFET’s. "Last year he suffered of an inflammed foot and two years ago, a fissure. We changed the insoles, in order to distribute correctly the weight on his feet", says the doctor. "The results were good. What is important is to prevent. The feet can not be changed and his have standing & bad distribution of weight on foot problems".
Although the Nadal’s staff recognizes the risk of the process of the adaptation to the fast court of Madrid, they say that his feet is “well positioned”.
To avoid that, Nadal is changing his game style. The first consequences of his plan could be seen in Wimbledon, where he reached the final despite of playing on grass. How is he working on the change? "I am a simple uncle", admits Toni; "and so my training sessions are. If I want to improve my maths, I practice on maths exercises. If I want Rafa to improve his serves, I make him to work on that".
The goal of all this practice is, as Nadal admited last Saturday, to win more “free points” with the serve. To avoid exhaustion. And to manage to arrive to the Australian Open, the first GS of the next season “at 100%”, according to what Nadal said on his first press conference in Madrid. Nadal has returned. He says that the loves this Masters because is here where he achieved his “most exciting” win. Now he wants to repeat. And he is ready to change his game style to make it.

The Daviator
10-17-2006, 02:51 PM
Good luck Rafa :bounce:

Xristos
10-17-2006, 03:08 PM
Vamos! Fish is going down!

Weebl
10-17-2006, 03:17 PM
so he plays double today and single tomorrow?
and is there any channel that will broadcast the matches?
:wavey:

mallorn
10-17-2006, 06:07 PM
Thanks for posting those articles, Castafiore, I've been swamped with work again. :ras: Luckily for me Rafa doesn't play until tomorrow. :D

Here's an interview with Rafa translated by the one, the only... ;) :worship: Nou.amic of VB.com.

INTERVIEW WITH THE WORLD NUMBER TWO

Nadal: "It's not frustrating to have one of the best ever ahead of me"

By Joan Solsona

Rafa Nadal is tennis' great attraction. The combination of great player and fine person have converted him into an example for the young. The 20-year-old Manacorian takes Nadalmania as naturally as he can while he prepares for his attempt at the seventh Masters Series title of his career. Against him, as in all the great tournaments, he will have Federer, number one for the last three years.

Rafael Nadal landed in Madrid on Saturday and since then his agenda has been full. Everybody wants to meet the Balear phenomenon, who in Madrid has experienced Nadalmania at its purest.

On Saturday, at your first practice session in Madrid there were 2000 people shouting your name...
I can only say that it is very nice to feel the warmth of the fans so close up. It made a huge impression on me to arrive at the practice courts and see so many people, who expect a lot of me. I remember how the public were all behind me in the final last year against Ljubicic. Without them I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to come back and win from 2 sets to love down. The sensations I had on court were incredible and they will definitely remain in my memory.

Everybody wants to see the ninth duel between Nadal and Federer next Sunday...
The tournament is guaranteed a great final because all the best players in the world are in the draw. Though I appreciate that a Nadal-Federer final would be very special here.

A year ago you had played 20 tournaments before the Madrid Masters. You've played 6 fewer in 2006. Why?
It hasn't been anything to do with planning so as to be in top form in the last part of the season. It was simply what my body demanded after the injury to my foot.

What balance do you make of how things have gone?
I'm pleased with the way the year has gone, above all when you take into account that I missed the first Grand Slam. I'll finish the year at number two for the second time running and I want to prepare well in December to make a good beginning to next season; I've got my eyes on Australia.

Is it not frustrating to have so many ATP points, win so many tournaments and yet be behind Federer.
I accept that I've got Federer ahead of me and it's not frustrating because he's one of the best tennis players ever.

You have beaten the Swiss four times this season to only one loss to him on grass at Wimbledon. Which were the most important victories?
They are all of worth. I would say that the Monte Carlo final made me feel like a tennis player again, and that I would be fighting again to be up there at the top. Rome was more important psychologically for the second Roland Garros.

The Madrid tournament draw has already been made and you will have your first match on Wednesday against Malisse or a qualifier...
The first two matches are always complicated. Possibly a quarter final against Roddick? Everybody knows that the American plays really well.

What's your analysis your defeat by Joachim Johansson in Stockholm?
I didn't play badly, but I was up against one of the world's three best servers.

You are also going to play the doubles with Feli López.
It's good for me to play a match before Wednesday, it will give me more match play. Last year I was entered but couldn't play the doubles because of my problems with my knee.

Spanish original: http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/tenis/masters_series_de_madrid/es/desarrollo/699223.html

Xristos
10-17-2006, 06:13 PM
Nadal and Feli lost..... :(

mallorn
10-17-2006, 06:24 PM
Yep, they did, but it was a very close match, judging by the scores: 6-4, 5-7, 9-11, in 1h45. Hopefully it'll help Rafa to adjust to the court for tomorrow.

MariaV
10-17-2006, 06:34 PM
Yeah, must've been a very close match. I feel so sorry for the guys. :sad:

NeverSayDie
10-17-2006, 07:32 PM
aww Rafa is so sweet, he always has someting nice to say about someone :hug: Good luck against Fish :yeah:

MariaV
10-17-2006, 08:35 PM
Rafa plays at 8 pm as kinda expected.

Starting at 8:00 PM
Mardy FISH (USA) vs Rafael NADAL (ESP)

VAMOS Rafael! :bounce: :bigclap: :yippee:

Johnny Groove
10-17-2006, 09:26 PM
Maria, that avvie :hearts:

Interesting read, Castafiore, and :kiss: as always to Ania. Hopefully Tio Toni can help Rafa with a smooth easy transition to a new serve and have a great end to this season, and come out firing in 07 with an AO win and push for #1 :yeah:

angela
10-17-2006, 11:10 PM
This match is to easy. Go Rafa. You are at home.

neenah
10-18-2006, 02:19 AM
Good luck Rafaaa :D

Agassi Fan
10-18-2006, 10:50 AM
Good luck against Fish!

mallorn
10-18-2006, 07:53 PM
Roger was asked a couple of questions about Rafa in his interview:
Q. These are two questions for Roger here in Spain. Some people present this tournament as a fight between you and Rafael Nadal. How will you say it?
ROGER FEDERER: Don't agree because there's plenty of other guys wanting to beat us. There's only two who can take the finals. It's a long way. I've made my first step. So let's see what he does tomorrow. I think the draw is extremely tough here. You play opening rounds, always Top 30 guys, Top 40 guys. It's so difficult. I think we would love to play each other, there's no doubt. But there's no reason to think about that right now.

Q. And another one. Rafa has played today with Feliciano Lopez in doubles. He asked you after the U.S. Open to play with him here, and you deny. What are you going to do in the future? Would you like to play with him in doubles?
ROGER FEDERER: It's an interesting prospect. I still do enjoy playing doubles. But usually that's with my Swiss friend. I don't know if it's going to work out, you know, because I don't play much anymore. At the end of the season you have to be really careful with injuries. I've been unlucky the last couple of years. I'm just happy to be here in singles. It's maybe something for the future. You never know.

Q. So if I bet in the final between you and Rafa I'm going to lose my money or not?
ROGER FEDERER: Good chance.

http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2006-10-18/k.php

And there's another article about changes to Rafa's game:
Nadal Plays Less, Alters Style to Prevent Injuries (Update1)

By Alex Duff

Oct. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Rafael Nadal, the 20-year-old world No. 2, is playing less tennis and altering his technique to prevent his aggressive style leading to more foot injuries.

``He's blessed with a great physical force but he can't play as much as when he was 17,'' the Spaniard's doctor, Angel Ruiz- Cotorro, said in an interview at the Madrid Masters today.

Nadal, who overpowered top-ranked Roger Federer to win a second straight French Open title in June, is competing at his 15th event of 2006 this week, six fewer than he'd played at the same time last year. He's also training less in his fourth full season on tour after injuring his left foot the past two years.

``We have to go carefully and that worries me,'' Toni Nadal, his coach and uncle, told yesterday's El Pais newspaper. ``When you train less you can't maintain the same rhythm.''

Nadal was sidelined for three months in 2004 with a stress facture of his left foot. He also missed the last few weeks of the 2005 season and this year's Australian Open after the same foot became inflamed. His advisers are helping him to change his stance to avoid further injuries.

``It's a gradual process,'' Ruiz-Cotorro, said. ``You can't make a sudden change or it will affect his game too much.''

Nadal, an 11-time winner in 2005, is seeking to successfully defend the Madrid Masters and claim a sixth title this year. After receiving a first-round bye, he will face the U.S.'s Mardy Fish in his opening game tomorrow. Federer, seeking his 10th title of 2006, plays Chile's Nicolas Massu today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=arDJdbu.fSkM

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I really missed watching Rafa live. He looks a bit nervous at the start, and very yellow. :lol: Oh, and I hate seeing the knee support. :(

http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/musik/k015.gif

VAMOS RAFA!

http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/musik/k015.gif

Sunset of Age
10-18-2006, 08:11 PM
Thanks for the interesting articles, Mallorn!

Nice to read Rogi regards playing doubles with Rafa as a possibility for the future... :worship:

BTW, you're lucky to see the match... my country's TV is being infested with Champions League football ON. EVERY. CHANNEL! :mad:

Denisse
10-18-2006, 08:15 PM
Thanks for the interesting articles, Mallorn!

Nice to read Rogi regards playing doubles with Rafa as a possibility for the future... :worship:

BTW, you're lucky to see the match... my country's TV is being infested with Champions League football ON. EVERY. CHANNEL! :mad:

so is mine!! i hate it....

Sunset of Age
10-18-2006, 08:46 PM
so is mine!! i hate it....

Horrible, no?
Hopefully I'll be able to watch some matches tomorrow, as there won't be any BLODDY football on! (at least, I hope...!)

MariaV
10-18-2006, 09:14 PM
Phew! 6-4 6-2, 1 h 21 min, nice win, and pretty fast. Althought the BP conversion 3/10 makes me :rolleyes: again. And only 3 aces, 1st serve % 65%, not spectacular. He needs to step up vs Haas tomorrow. VAMOS Rafa! :banana: :yippee: :bounce:

I cannot believe only 2 Spaniards left after 2 rounds. :o
Anyway, I need to get back to Marat vs another sunny boy from a sunny island so see you lovelies tomorrow. :wavey:

mallorn
10-18-2006, 09:15 PM
^^ Oh, I'm so sorry for you ClayBuster and Denisse! :hug: :hug:

Rafa started his defense with a 6-4, 6-2 win over Mardy Fish.

I had a bad headache throughout the match (not because of the match though) so just a few random thoughts on the match, I'm not up to any analysing.

• Rafa played a few beautiful passing shots, god I missed them. The one at 4-2 40 all in the second was :yippee: good.

• First serve percentage was 65, 74% won. He won 100% second set serves in the first set, :eek: 57% in the second. :lol:

• He managed to keep the ball quite deep and took more risks although still wasn't aggressive enough all the time and didn't put as much pressure on Mardy as he should've (e.g. at 5-3 in the first set, when he wasted a few setpoints).

• Rafa wasn't broken when serving either for the set or the match. :yeah: ;)

• The crowd was rather subdued. I hope it was because the match was straightforward and they'll be more lively in Rafa's next matches.

• Someone should tell Mardy to wear socks. ;)

• Raul, David Beckham and the Infanta Elena were watching Rafa this year too. Also Manolo Santana and Emilio Sanchez. :yeah:

RogiFan88
10-18-2006, 09:15 PM
auf widersehen, Tommy!!

MariaV
10-18-2006, 09:18 PM
Ania, I have headache too. :hug: :hug:
And Rafa's match didn't exactly help. ;) :o

Oh, and Mardy never wears socks, he says he's more comfortable this way. :shrug: Everyone has his peculiarities. ;)

Sunset of Age
10-18-2006, 09:21 PM
^^ Oh, I'm so sorry for you ClayBuster and Denisse! :hug: :hug:

• Raul, David Beckham and the Infanta Elena were watching Rafa this year too. Also Manolo Santana and Emilio Sanchez. :yeah:

Thankees, Mallorn! :hug:

Yeah, I feel heavily Rafa- and Rogi-deprived... hopefully tomorrow NO Champions League so I'll be able to watch the matches! ~prays~

BAH, even *footballers* have the opportunity to watch Rafa's matches!!! :banghead:
The world isn't fair. ;)

mallorn
10-18-2006, 09:22 PM
Ania, I have headache too. :hug: :hug:
And Rafa's match didn't exactly help. ;) :o
I think I'm going down with a cold. :bigcry: I hope Marat will make you feel better. ;) :hug:

MariaV
10-18-2006, 09:27 PM
I think I'm going down with a cold. :bigcry: I hope Marat will make you feel better. ;) :hug:

:hug: You know we have flu virus here already too, exceptionally early. :(
Take care hun, talk to you tomorrow. :hug:

I try not to freak out at Marat vs the sunnyboy Marcos. :) :wavey:

Jogg
10-18-2006, 09:47 PM
:bounce: Well done Rafa :bounce:

Thanks for the thoughts on the match Mallorn.

Denisse
10-18-2006, 10:16 PM
i wish i knew how that livestream thing works...

Sunset of Age
10-18-2006, 10:25 PM
i wish i knew how that livestream thing works...

I can't get it working either, but that may be because I have an antique computer... so I can't help you there.

MariaV
10-18-2006, 11:17 PM
Rafa playing at the same time tomorrow. :D Vamos! You can do it vs Haas! :banana: :yippee: :bounce: :bigclap:

Starting at 8:00 PM
Tommy HAAS (GER) vs Rafael NADAL (ESP)

Johnny Groove
10-18-2006, 11:54 PM
1 down, 4 to go :dance:

angela
10-19-2006, 02:01 AM
El partido no es fácil, que gane el mejor.
Buena suerte Rafa.

16681
10-19-2006, 03:54 AM
Congrats to Rafa on his win today :)

atheneglaukopis
10-19-2006, 04:55 PM
Congratulations to Rafa for beating Fish, and may I just say what a cute little bumblebee he makes. :)

silver7
10-19-2006, 05:07 PM
Yay Rafa!:yeah:
Good luck today :hug:

Björki
10-19-2006, 05:26 PM
vamos Rafa :bounce:

NeverSayDie
10-19-2006, 06:01 PM
Vamos Rafa against Haas. Should be a toughie :unsure:

Weebl
10-19-2006, 06:31 PM
Yeah, a toughie..
how sad for Haas :aplot: ;)
Vamos Rafa :kiss:

mallorn
10-19-2006, 07:42 PM
So today I have no coverage and just football! :fiery:

Anyway, Rafa got an early break and consolidated, he had some problems in the eighth game but is now 5-3 in the first set. Come on!

***

Here's an article about Rafa the businessman. ;)

Nadal all business when it comes to the tennis industry

At times he looks like a sports businessman rather than a 20-year-old tennis player.

(By Sebastian Fest, DPA) Rafael Nadal has all the figures and the statistics of the sport in his head, and towards the end of a season where he confirmed his status as the only real rival to Switzerland's Roger Federer, he shows a new face - as unofficial head of marketing for the ATP.

"We tennis players should work harder," he said in an interview with Deutsche Press-Agentur, dpa in which he at times showed the confidence of a high sports executive and at times the naive sincerity of the young adult that he still is.

Nadal is defending his title at the Masters Series in Madrid and plays German Tommy Haas in the third round later Thursday.

But he has arrived at one of his favourite tournaments with a real arsenal of ideas to make the sport he excels in more powerful and attractive.

"I totally agree with the change in the system to round-robin, I would prefer four players instead of groups of three, but that favours the show, the players and the tournament. Everyone. I am thrilled," he said.

Nadal also felt that tennis players could improve their financial situation, especially when looking at the prize money on offer in other sports such as golf.

"Evidently golf moves a great deal more money than tennis, and that must be for some reason - the people in charge of golf must be doing something better than those in charge of tennis," he said.

This is one of the reasons why Nadal favours the idea of a round-robin tournament as it increases revenues for all involved by keeping the top players in action for longer.

"That thing about round-robin it that it favours earning more money. It is clear that in Grand Slams we do not earn a lot, taking into account the sway of the tournament," he said.

"This year at Roland Garros (in the French Open) we started playing on Sunday and we earned almost nothing more, but the tournament benefits a lot from that."

With the ATP's promotional budget jumping from 800,000 to five million euros this year and prize money up 10 per cent, Nadal admits things are improving but that more can be done, especially when it comes to television coverage.

"When you don't know whether it lasts two, three or five hours it is difficult for the person who buys tennis to programme it on television," said the Spaniard.

"Can that be solved? I don't know. All I know is that football has improved a lot since it was forbidden for the goalkeeper the handle the ball after a back pass."

Nadal feels that tennis has fallen behind other sports in how it markets itself but that the situation is slowly changing.

"Is round-robin an improvement? Yes, of course. People want to see Federer, or (Andy) Roddick. Now perhaps me. And this way they will see them at least twice, instead of once," he said.

"If the world number two or the number one lose in the first round it is a catastrophe for the tournament."

But as with everything in else in life, Nadal accepts that if he wants more money, he will probably have to spend more time out on the court earning it.

"Tournaments will be longer, but if you want to earn more money that's the way it is."

http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/eng/news/NewsDetail_586.htm

Here's his interview after the previous round.

Rafael Nadal Interview Madrid - October 18, 2006

Posted on October 19, 2006

Press conference of Rafael Nadal
Madrid, 18th October, 2006

Q. The victory, the crowd supporting you, what are your sensations?
RAFAEL NADAL: I'm very happy. I was really looking forward to being here again. To play in Spain is something special. I have great memories from last year.
I was looking forward to being on the court again. I've played a great match. That's my opinion. It's been a special sensation.

Q. If you had to choose, it's early now, but are you going to play Shanghai? Would you play Shanghai or Madrid?
RAFAEL NADAL: Those are very different tournaments. You cannot compare them. Each tournament provides you a different sensation. The feeling of victory is very special at home. It's far more emotional at home.
This is a very important tournament, but Shanghai is a Masters, a higher level. Last year I could win in Madrid, and I would sign right now to win either this one or Shanghai.

Q. The crowd is focusing on you and Federer. On the other hand, Federer has not disregarded the possibility of playing doubles with you?
RAFAEL NADAL: First of all, tomorrow I am facing Haas. That's a tough match. He plays against Soderling. He was going to have it tough, maybe he has it easier.
This is not a tournament between Federer and myself. You need to take a look at the results. The 10 top players in the world are here. This is a very top tournament.
Second question. Whenever he feels like playing doubles with me, he can ask me. I would be willing to.

Q. Rafael, last year you made a big effort to win here, and then it reverted in Shanghai. This year can you look forward to winning both tournaments, or is this going to influence Shanghai? Because you had cramps once and then you won next year. Are you going to face Shanghai's crowd properly?
RAFAEL NADAL: Well, it has nothing to do with it. I played Cincinnati and Toronto and then I played U.S. Open. I'm confident in myself and being able to play here and then in Shanghai and Paris also.
I'm going to try my best everywhere. I know the statistics tell that I may not win any of the tournaments, but I'm going to get as close as I can, do my best. I've been training for a long time, concentrating, and one day or another I'm going to get there. I'm trying to improve. I'm training at a higher level.
A good match means nothing. You can always lose the next one.

Q. Tomorrow, Tommy Haas, you've faced him already?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yes. Cincinnati, third round.

Q. So he's tough but accessible as a rival?
RAFAEL NADAL: It's funny to say he's an accessible player. He's fighting for the Masters also. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Q. You've been comfortable on the court. What about your play, weak and strong points?
RAFAEL NADAL: I think I didn't make too much unforced errors. My serve has only given me one problem. I've been confident. Second serve has also been working. I've tried to take advantage of my points whenever I could, take advantage with my forehand. It has helped me be more confident throughout the match. Besides this I could have improved, I don't know what. I've done what's necessary to win the match, especially the first match here, which is always tough.

Q. The court?
RAFAEL NADAL: The court suits me okay. If I play well, I can obtain good results as I've already proven on other occasions. If my game is not good, you will see here, things are very even. A few balls can decide a match. To win the match is a different story.

Q. Last year you won this Masters event with your injuries. This year Federer is here. Do you think you can repeat last year's victory or is Federer a harder obstacle than your injury?
RAFAEL NADAL: I think you're not understanding what I'm trying to say. I'm telling you that tomorrow I'm playing against Haas. Tomorrow I have a tough match before me. Imagine I win Haas tomorrow. Then I have Roddick. Do you think I'm favored against Roddick also?
Maybe I am the second in the world, but not on every surface, not at every moment. And number and two in the world do not always play the finals in the tournaments. Should it be the case, it will be a dream to play in the finals against Federer. But I'm realistic. There is a long way to the final.

Q. Rafa, I need your opinion about the Hawkeye challenge.
RAFAEL NADAL: If you asked Safin, he'd say it doesn't work. He's not right. I think it's entertaining for the crowd, more interesting for the public. And that's all. You only have two options, two chances, because otherwise it will be too monotonous. I support it.

Q. A difficult question. There were nine Spaniards at the beginning, now there is only two left. Is it a fallout?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't think it has been our best week, but this is a very difficult surface for Spaniards. We are fighting the best 38 in the world, what can we do? There has been matches that could have been won and that we've lost; matches that could have gone better. Chela, for instance, got an advantage the other day. It's not surprising. It only goes to prove that tournaments are tough, and it's a difficult surface. It makes things difficult. You need to take that into account.

Q. Last year you came to the press room with ice on your knee. This year you're physically better. Your game is better, worse, the same?
RAFAEL NADAL: You never know when your game is at a higher level or at a lower level. You can only tell when you play matches, match after match. I've seen myself better today than last year's first round. This is tennis. You never know how things are going to work out. An error, and you lose a match and the tournament.
Sometimes to win, and this is what I always say, when you finish a match 7‑6 down or 7‑6 up, 8‑6 tie break, you go down to the changing rooms and you remember more negative things. Only two points decided the match, but those two points were crucial, and that's the sport.

Q. First match, stadium was crowded. Don't you feel a bit responsible with the Spanish crowd coming to see you?
RAFAEL NADAL: Responsibility is shared. I feel far more comfortable and supported with this crowd and I'm very, very thankful because every time I'm getting on the court, I'm feeling like playing. And seeing all the people outside, I feel thankful, because it's been relatively easy to win. If not it would have been uncomfortable.

Q. Tommy Haas has made a good match. How do you define your next rival?
RAFAEL NADAL: He's a complete player, good drive, good backhand, complete game. I’ll try to push him and make him feel uncomfortable. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Q. Beckham and Cassillas have come to the stadium today. Are you going to go watch them on Sunday?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know.

Q. Real Madrid-Barcelona, do you think Federer would like to see that match?
RAFAEL NADAL: Well, if he wants to see one, he can go. It's an interesting match for anyone. He's a world citizen, it's a special event.

Q. So you support Barcelona?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, I support Real Madrid.

Q. Rafa, when you played the final last year in front of many spectators, and then you come back to the same spectators, what do you feel? Do you feel excitement or afraid or comfortable? How do you feel?
RAFAEL NADAL: I feel a very special sensation. It's very nice to come back after one year with the same people in the stadium full. That's very impressive knowing it's for me and I am very happy to come back here.

Q. Leaving Stockholm early, does this help you with preparation?
RAFAEL NADAL: The loss in Stockholm?

Q. Yes. Losing early in Stockholm.
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know. You always can see the two situations. If you play more matches, you arrive here with more confidence. And if you lose, you have more days to prepare for the tournament. You never know what's the best. I prefer to win in Stockholm.

Q. Can you say something about playing Tommy Haas? He's a dangerous player.
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. He's a very competent player, very difficult. He has all of the shots. It's a very tough match. I'm going to try my best. I'm going to play the same like today. Today I played at a very good level. So I'm going to try this. I know it will be a very tough match, but I will try to win.

Q. Can you say what you think about playing round robin next year in some of the tournaments? Is that a good thing?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. As any rule, I can't say nothing now because I don't know exactly what's going on. But for me it's not a bad decision.

http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/eng/news/NewsDetail_577.htm

Weebl
10-19-2006, 08:06 PM
Aww do you have to watch it on internet too?
it's sooo annoying.. :awww:
:ras: @ football..

mallorn
10-19-2006, 08:36 PM
^^ Yeah, I only had the SB. :( Luckily Rafa made it quick today, 6-4, 6-3 in 1h27. :D :D :D :woohoo:

Weebl
10-19-2006, 08:44 PM
Yaaay :dance:

MariaV
10-19-2006, 08:49 PM
Yep Ania, I liked today's match more. :D :D
Bless my NTV+ tennis channel, I don't have to watch football or anything else when I don't want to. ;)
Becks is a real tennis fan, no? He sat through the whole Rafa match today again. :D And Roberto Carlos was there today, and some other Real players.
Raul was there for Fed's match only, at least they didn't show him during Rafa's.
That was a mini report for Ania. ;) :hug: Hope you're feeling better today, Rafa didn't cause me any headache today. :D Haas had only one BP and that was at the end of the 2nd set, in the 8th game if I'm not wrong. His serve looked better. Even if it took longer seemed overall a better match, Haas is a better player than Fish.
Berdych tomorrow will be tough but if Rafa plays as well tomorrow or better it could be a good match. Time for revenge Rafa! :devil: :bounce: :bigclap: :yippee:

mallorn
10-19-2006, 08:58 PM
Yep Ania, I liked today's match more. :D :D
:yeah:
Becks is a real tennis fan, no? He sat through the whole Rafa match today again. :D And Roberto Carlos was there today, and some other Real players.
Check out the pics thread. ;)
That was a mini report for Ania. ;) :hug: Hope you're feeling better today, Rafa didn't cause me any headache today. :D Haas had only one BP and that was at the end of the 2nd set, in the 8th game if I'm not wrong. His serve looked better. Even if it took longer seemed overall a better match, Haas is a better player than Fish.
:smooch: Thanks, darling, I'm a bit better now and the headache's finally gone and I bet Marat's results cured you of yours. ;)
Yeah, Rafa seemed to control his nerves better, he got himself out of a couple sticky situations in both eighth games. :yeah:
Berdych tomorrow will be tough but if Rafa plays as well tomorrow or better it could be a good match. Time for revenge Rafa! :devil: :bounce: :bigclap: :yippee:
Rafa needs to be super-focused for Berdych. Tomas is always very motivated to beat him. :ras:


OOP is out, Rafa is scheduled for 8 PM again. Hopefully this time I'll see it. :rolleyes:

MariaV
10-19-2006, 09:23 PM
OOP is out, Rafa is scheduled for 8 PM again. Hopefully this time I'll see it. :rolleyes:

It's good for him to play at the same time every day. All the VIPs will be there again, and this time he'll have the crowd's suport no doubt so should be tougher for Tomas. :devil:
I saw Berdych vs Roddick today, Berdych served well, but Roddick got injured at 2-3 in the 2nd set. He made some clumsy jump and twisted his ankle a bit despite the ankle brace he's wearing. So he couldn't really move well after that.

Becks came back for the Murray - Djoker match, wow! :eek: :yeah: Becks the tennis fan! :yeah: Now I like him more. ;)
OK, talk to you tomorrow. :smooch:

Sunset of Age
10-19-2006, 09:24 PM
well, lovely, WONDERFUL play from Rafa today! He really made his mark! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

I'm very happy he seems to be back on the right track.
With that said, VAMOS! for Rogelio, too, BTW - he had a lot tougher game today.
Can't wait to see the lovely guys play eah other again, but please don't mind me on this - it's just me... :angel:

Sunset of Age
10-19-2006, 09:26 PM
Aww do you have to watch it on internet too?
it's sooo annoying.. :awww:
:ras: @ football..

Sport 1 broadcasts live - IF there's no CL football going on!
(that means, not on Tuesday, not on Wednesday, but it's fine now...) :devil:

Weebl
10-19-2006, 09:56 PM
Sport 1 broadcasts live - IF there's no CL football going on!
(that means, not on Tuesday, not on Wednesday, but it's fine now...) :devil:

Awww Thank you :worship:

Johnny Groove
10-19-2006, 10:03 PM
Rafa is on-form. he even finished a match in 1h27 :eek:

Is his new serve working, is Toni helping him with the transition? :drool:

MariaV
10-19-2006, 10:54 PM
Rafa is on-form. he even finished a match in 1h27 :eek:

Is his new serve working, is Toni helping him with the transition? :drool:

Yes, he served really well today. :D 4 aces too. Let's hope he'll get consistency on this new serve now.
And yesterday he finished even in 1 h 21 min. ;)

And only after I wrote the last post I understood why Becks was sitting through both night matches without even getting much to eat in between when other football players left - he was watching Muzza, the next young man to finally win Wimbledon for GBR. ;) And Rafa will be one of his opponents. ;)
Becks must be quite a fan. ;) :banana: :yeah:

Johnny Groove
10-19-2006, 11:32 PM
Yes, he served really well today. :D 4 aces too. Let's hope he'll get consistency on this new serve now.
And yesterday he finished even in 1 h 21 min. ;)

And only after I wrote the last post I understood why Becks was sitting through both night matches without even getting much to eat in between when other football players left - he was watching Muzza, the next young man to finally win Wimbledon for GBR. ;) And Rafa will be one of his opponents. ;)
Becks must be quite a fan. ;) :banana: :yeah:

Becks didnt watch Real? :eek:

I believe that Rafa will let Murray win Wimbly one year, but will Borg it for a few years with RG and Wimbly :p

MariaV
10-19-2006, 11:42 PM
Becks didnt watch Real? :eek:


:confused: I am too sleep deprived to understand what you're saying. :o

Johnny Groove
10-19-2006, 11:46 PM
:confused: I am too sleep deprived to understand what you're saying. :o

Real Madrid ;)

cmurray
10-20-2006, 12:21 AM
Rafi looked really good today. It's a relief to see him back in form.

Denisse
10-20-2006, 01:33 AM
I can't get it working either, but that may be because I have an antique computer... so I can't help you there.

i think mine may be older than yours :p

Denisse
10-20-2006, 01:34 AM
and i think yesterday was worldwide headache day...

MariaV
10-20-2006, 07:44 AM
Real Madrid ;)

I mean WATCH Real? Where, why? :confused: He was watching tennis. ;)

MariaV
10-20-2006, 07:47 AM
Rafa's interview is up. :D

Press conference of Rafael Nadal
Madrid, 19th October, 2006

Q. Two questions. First of all, your global impressions about the match. Second, today only one break. Are you improving your serve?
RAFAEL NADAL: My impressions of the tournament are great. I've imposed my pace throughout the match, especially with my drive. I'm very happy because of that.
I've been trying hard lately. And greatly my tennis is going towards my goal.
Second, my serve went quite well both yesterday and today. I've been confident with my serve. So I'm very, very happy with all the aspects of my game. Maybe my backhand can be improved towards the right area of the opponent, but that's tough. Basically my game is going well.

Q. Tomorrow Berdych. Your thoughts?
RAFAEL NADAL: I lost to him in Cincinnati last year and in Canada this year. So it's going to be a tough match. I don't think there is a favorite player. I don't feel myself as a favorite player.
The two times I've played him, my level was quite low and I was feeling quite tired. Cincinnati was an incredible match. Toronto I didn't play well, it was very windy. But I also need to say that he's a player that pushes you, puts pressure on you. He plays very aggressive from behind the baseline. So you cannot give him initiative because if you do, you're dead.

Q. You're famous. You're in the news. We saw you last night on every TV channel.
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, but my comments about what? What have you seen on TV? Okay, okay, Real Madrid, okay. This is history. Okay. I'm not lucky lately with Real Madrid, but not jinxed.

Q. Have you been watching Federer play? What do you think? What are your opinions?
RAFAEL NADAL: It's been a great match, a beautiful match. I think he returned Soderling's game very properly. The first set he could have lost. However, that's a 5‑2 that Soderling has played very poorly. But it's also easy to play poorly when you're facing the No. 1 player of the world.
Second set, he's been playing better. Federer has improved his game, but Soderling kept recovering. So Federer has been playing great today as usual or better than usual because sometimes he has problems in the first rounds, like everyone. But today he has played great.

Q. Surprised because of Roddick's defeat?
RAFAEL NADAL: No. He had 50 percent of a chance. Berdych is playing real well as I told you, and that was a tough match for Roddick. He feels the pressure because any of them could have won. For instance, if I had to bet, I would have bet for Roddick, but it was a very even and open match. I wasn't surprised to hear that Berdych won.

http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/eng/news/NewsDetail_592.htm

the_natural
10-20-2006, 08:16 AM
To be honest guys, I didnt like the match until the end. Sure hes striking well but he still plays pretty far behind the baseline so he can run around the backhand to hit a forehand to control the rallies, sure he can win matches and tournaments like this but the big problem is that its not a sustainable style of play, say wat u will about him improving his serve and volley game and learning to end points more quickly but hes still doin too much running, if you get a chance watch the last few games of the match, he hits quite a few more backhands and it totally took Tommy by suprise, more importantly its easier to hit cross court on the backhand than an inside out forehand, if anything he has to learn to stop running around the forehand so often and to just purely strike the backhand the way he was at wimbledon, cos when he does he changes the direction of the ball even better and his backhand has the potential to be more deadly than the forehand for pure power (and the fact that hes right handed), I wish Uncle toni would work on this, i guess its ok for the end of this year but hes gotta have that worked out by the Aus Open...

This problem will create major issues against berdych and its something I think that most power hitters are exposing, oppen up the court by moving him way off into the backhand corner cos he runs around to hit a forehand, he loses ground and has to make up for it by running harder and faster to get back more defensive shots. As i said this will win him matches and tournaments but when he is below his best or injured its a big problem, in order to keep doing this hed have to remain in peak physical form.


But holy damn if he could play entire mathces the way he was playing the end of that second set he would firmly establish himself as "the Windscreen Wiper" (replacing Andre), he uses the court soo much better and makes the opponent run around lookin stupid when he doesnt run around the backhand, and he does much less running!!!

MariaV
10-20-2006, 08:46 AM
Hey Natural, I agree, he was standing too far at times and running around his bh too much and he gets out of court then but you have to keep in mind that it's not so easy to change your habits. Take the Dementieva serve for example, how much has she tried to change it and serving great at trainings but she still falls back to old ways in match play. That's the same with Rafa, he still feels more comfortable playing far behind the baseline and in the defense, his Wimbledon matches I saw (didn't see the Kendrick one) were amazing but he isn't as consistent and comfortable hitting flatter and coming to the net. But I have always been amazed by how fast and good learner he is and I'm sure he'll get even better for the next season (AO) with Toni. :wavey: And I absolutely loved how he played the end, that's why I was so happy. :D
And let's see how he can cope with Berdych's power hitting tonight.

mallorn
10-20-2006, 04:10 PM
From The Raw Story:
Traditionalist Federer, innovator Nadal hold contrasting opinions

dpa German Press Agency
Published: Friday October 20, 2006

opinions By Bill Scott, Madrid- The top two men in tennis hold contrasting views on the level of innovation required for the ATP to drive the game forward. Spain's world number 2 Rafael Nadal is eager for change, revealing his "businessman" side as well with a ringing endorsements of the new round-robin format proposal as well as launching a trade union-style debate regarding a lengthening of tournaments.

Roger Federer, on the other hand, is perfectly satisfied with the status quo, which has served him well on the way to longtime domination as world number 1.

The cautious Swiss has for instance never been a fan of the newly introduced electronic Hawk-eye line-calling system.

But he was smart enough to use it to his advantage to get out of a few sticky situations in a third-round win over Swede Robin Soderling at the Madrid Masters, with the computer confirming the Swiss eagle-eye when it came to disputed line-calls.

But even that display didn't impress the nine-time Grand Slam champion, who reached the Spanish quarter-finals on a match-point decided by the computer.

"I won't (be in favour of it), I will never be," he said.

"It turned out to be a crazy end (to the match) and was kind of funny waiting for the result on the match point. This has never happened before and I thought it was kind of silly.

"But it wouldn't have made a difference to the end result."

"I didn't like (Hawk-eye) in the first place. I still don't like it today. That hasn't changed," he insisted

Federer has also called into question the wisdom of an experiment for next season to allow some smaller events to play in round-robin instead of traditional single-knockout format.

"It could kind of work,' he said by way of lukewarm endorsement. "You get to see the best players maybe twice at least or three times.

"But then I think you lose the first round (or round robin), you want to stick around for maybe not even being able to qualify?

"It's kind of maybe a losing battle, I have some doubts - just keep the knockout system. That's what's so unique about tennis, one bad day, you're out."

Nadal, at age 20, is keen to give the fans what they want. If that means round-robin, the so be it.

"People want to see Federer, or (Andy) Roddick, now perhaps me," he said with some understatement. "This way, they will get to see them twice instead of once.

"If the number 2 or the number 1 lose in the first round it is a catastrophe for the tournament."

Nadal voiced complaints about the increased length of the French Open, which began on a Sunday instead of a Monday, making it 15 days of Grand Slam play.

"We started playing on Sunday and we earned almost nothing more, but the tournament benefits a lot from that."

http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Traditionalist_Federer_innovator_Na_10202006.html

Denisse
10-20-2006, 08:45 PM
umm...ok...i don't like berdych....

Weebl
10-20-2006, 08:55 PM
Noooooo :bigcry:

Weebl
10-20-2006, 08:58 PM
umm...ok...i don't like berdych....

me neither :boxing:

mallorn
10-20-2006, 09:00 PM
http://img2.menstennisforums.com/793/icon_dissolve_into_tears.gif

MariaV
10-20-2006, 09:07 PM
Berdy was beating the crap out of him, his bh was a liability today and errors on fh, he couldn't keep the flat ball over the net. Shock horror!!! :eek: :eek:
:(

Berdy's fh on the other hand was ON FIRE.
And is Rafa Sharapova or smth who need his daddy's advice on when to eat & drink, did he need tio Toni to tell him NOT to hit to Berdy's fh all the f''ing time. :rolleyes: And staying SOOOOOOO much behing the baseline, however powerful Berdy's serve was - :rolleyes:
Berdy's fh to Rafa's bh was a great matchup for Berdy.
Oooh, and I love the crowd whistling. :haha: :haha: :haha:
And Berdy's reaction. :haha: :yeah:
I wonder what Rafa said to Berdy after the handshake. :o :o Does anyone have a clue?
I am off now and I WILL NOT, repeat WILL NOT go to GM in the next days. *staying firm* So you can say 'hello' to all the 'tards there for me. ;)
:wavey:

Denisse
10-20-2006, 09:37 PM
he said: eso estuvo mal, estuvo muy mal.
that was wrong, that was really wrong

mallorn
10-20-2006, 11:16 PM
From Forbes:
Nadal Loses, Federer Advances at Madrid
By PAUL LOGOTHETIS , 10.20.2006, 05:52 PM

Thomas Berdych overcame a partisan crowd and defending champion Rafael Nadal in the quarterfinals at the Madrid Masters on Friday, beating the second-ranked Spaniard 6-3, 7-6 (6).

Berdych left the court to jeers after putting his finger to his lips in a silencing motion following his victory.

"I can understand they want him to win the match and the tournament, but this is not a Davis Cup where you can expect this - not in this tournament," Berdych said, adding the gesture was in response to the crowd cheering his mistakes throughout the match.

Nadal told Berdych he was "a bad person" for gesturing as he did.

"When I played him in the Czech Republic, the crowd was the same and I didn't say anything," said Nadal, who also referenced the treatment he received at the Swedish Open last week, where he lost to Sweden native Joachim Johansson.

"If you play against a local player, that's normal. That's good for tennis because the public supports you," Nadal said.

The 11th-seeded Berdych controlled from the start, using powerful ground strokes to keep Nadal deep behind the baseline.

"When he's playing his best tennis he is running and everywhere and can hit some incredible shots - but I can't remember him playing any other style of game," Berdych said. "This is the kind of game I like, that he's running behind the baseline and hitting balls just over the net so I could go in and volley or stay back and play from the baseline."

Nadal's loss prevented a meeting against top-ranked Federer as the Swiss moved a step closer to winning his 10th title of 2006 with a 6-3, 7-6 (4) win over Robby Ginepri that put him though to the semis for the first time since 2003.

Federer - trying to become the first player in the Open era to win 10 titles three straight years - tied Ivan Lendl's 24-year mark of successive 80-win seasons with the victory.

"I've walked off the court as a winner 80 times this season, only five times as a loser - that's a great record for me," Federer said.

Federer won the first set in 27 minutes.

Federer will face David Nalbandian, who avenged his defeat in the 2004 final by beating Marat Safin 6-4, 6-7 (6), 7-6 (2).

Though Federer and Nalbandian have split their previous 12 encounters, the Argentine has only beaten Federer once since 2003 - in last year's Masters Cup final.

Nalbandian reached the Madrid semifinals for the third straight year as Safin committed 74 unforced errors - four in the third-set tiebreaker.

http://www.forbes.com/business/commerce/feeds/ap/2006/10/20/ap3108910.html

Jogg
10-20-2006, 11:18 PM
:sobbing: Rafa

Berdy was beating the crap out of him, his bh was a liability today and errors on fh, he couldn't keep the flat ball over the net. Shock horror!!!

Yeah he didnt seem to have much of a game plan at all today, he was so tentative and nervous at times :sad: :awww:

he said: eso estuvo mal, estuvo muy mal.
that was wrong, that was really wrong

it's unlike Rafa to say things like that but Berdych behaviour to the crowd at the end was stupid :rolleyes:

I am really beginning to fear that the pressure is getting too much for him to handle :unsure:

mallorn
10-20-2006, 11:51 PM
From Eurosport:
Berdych upsets Nadal

Tomas Berdych produced one of the finest performances of his career to dump Rafael Nadal out of the Madrid Masters 6-3 7-6 on Friday.

Though the home favourite put up a spirited second set fightback, he was overwhelmed by his Czech opponent's seemingly effortless power and accuracy, both off the ground and the serve.

Berdych silenced the home crowd in more ways than one, putting his finger to his lips after sealing victory, a defiant gesture to the Madrid public, who responded with a crescendo of whistles, while Nadal muttered his own disapproval.

From the start the 21-year-old imposed himself on the match, slamming an emphatic forehand winner cross court to break Nadal in the fourth game.

The Spaniard continued to struggle with his rhythm, making uncharacteristic errors off the backhand side in particular, and frequently leaving groundstrokes in midcourt that Berdych gleefully pounced upon.

He captured the first set at the first opportunity, with Nadal slamming a backhand into the net at 5-3.

Nadal worked his way back into the match in the second set, though when he did earn himself two breakpoints, first at 3-2, then at 4-3, Berdych responded with potent serves to snuff out the danger.

The crowd began to play an increasing part in the match as it progressed towards the tie-break, and it was their man who earned the first mini-break, going 3-1 up, before Berdych turned back on the power, reeling off three straight points to move 5-3 ahead.

But the balance of power swung again, with Nadal displaying his famed fighting spirit to rally back to setpoint at 6-5.

But his opponent was not to be denied, going on the attack and taking the next three points, including an inspired guess on at 6-6 as Nadal lined up a smash.

The exchanges between Berdych and the crowd should not detract from an impressive performance from the number 11 seed, who will meet either Fernando Gonzalez or Novak Djokovic in the semi-finals.

"I was expecting the crowd to get behind (Nadal) in his own country and I understand that they want him to win the match and the tournament, but they have to understand that other players can win too," Berdych commented afterwards, adding that Nadal had criticised him when shaking hands at the end.

"He said 'You are very bad.'

"I expect the crowd to follow him and be on his side, but this isn't the Davis Cup."

But Nadal defended his home crowd, retorting:

"For me the fans were marvellous," he said. "We have to remember that we are in Spain, the fans were incredible and it is always an honour for me to play here.

"When I played in the Czech Republic in the Davis Cup the fans were worse. I've also had my errors cheered in tournaments like in Sweden last time.

"It is normal that the public support their player or team. It is good for tennis, it makes for a good atmosphere and I don't complain when it happens to me.

"I said he was a bad person for what he did at the end. But that's the end of the story.

"He showed why he is one of the best in the world and why he is close to the top 10. He played very well and beat me even though I was playing well too."

http://www.eurosport.com/football/madrid-masters/2006/sport_sto990048.shtml

Denisse
10-21-2006, 12:13 AM
first, you weren't playing that well honey, and second, you didn't call him a bad person, you called him stupid. but i still like you :P

16681
10-21-2006, 03:34 AM
Rafa :sad: It would seem like Rafa needs to make some changes, take a break just do something different :bigcry:

Johnny Groove
10-21-2006, 06:23 AM
fuck. this really screwed up my day :o

jacobhiggins
10-21-2006, 08:46 AM
Rafa needs to grow up, he showed his age today!

Thomas is going to be one hell of a player though, a future number 1? Nadal shouldn't be too discouraged, he still has had a great year, Thomas is the real deal. I've been saying it for over a year now, he's just a damn good player when he is playing well!

Castafiore
10-21-2006, 09:04 AM
Rafa :sad: It would seem like Rafa needs to make some changes, take a break just do something different :bigcry:
He is actually making some changes to his game but it's going to take time for it to have full effect perhaps.

The match itself. Maybe I'm just fooling myself but I'm not that pessimistic about it either. One reason is that it's not a big surprise, Berdych is a great player and we could see that yesterday.
The other reason is that I really do think that Rafa has what it takes to beat this guy. Yes, there's the match-up thing and yes, it's a two sets defeat but I thought that it was actually a close one. All of their matches have been close. It's not like Tomas rolls over Rafa either.
Berdych, because of his good serve and his hard and fast groundstrokes, pushed Rafa back behind the baseline and it's hard to find an answer to that but at times, Rafa did find answers but simply not on a consistent basis.


Jacob, I think that both players need to do a bit of "growing up". Rafa could have dealt with it in a more mature way and Tomas could have dealt with the crowd in a more mature way but they're not the first players to make mistakes like that and they won't be the last.

mallorn
10-21-2006, 09:20 AM
Rafa's press conference, oddly translated in places. :confused:
2006 MASTERS SERIES
MADRID, SPAIN

October 20, 2006

T. BERDYCH / R. Nadal
6-3, 7-6

RAFAEL NADAL

Q. Rafa, what did you say to Berdych at the end of the game? He said that you told him that he was a bad guy, he was very bad. Is that correct?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. Correct.

Q. What do you mean by that?
RAFAEL NADAL: Huh?

Q. What do you mean when you say he's very bad? In what ways is he very bad?
RAFAEL NADAL: Maybe he's -- The question was if I had said to Berdych that he was very bad. That was the question. Okay? And the answer is that I've told him that, yes. With my emotions because I'm very -- I get cold when I lose.

But I think he's a player that week after week shows he's one of the top players in the world. He's very close to being in the Top-10. Next year he'll probably reach the Top-10 because he has a very high tennis level.

But I said that because in Toronto I didn't say anything, but he was constantly giving bad looks and nasty looks to the opponent. At that time it was not good.

And today during the match it happened again constantly. He looked, and he looked at me with not a very friendly face. During the match I'm focused on my game. I wasn't about to say anything during the match. But maybe the last thing he did with his finger was out of place.

The crowd was supporting me. It has been excellent. But nothing against him. The crowd supports a Spanish player. I've also played in the Czech Republic, and I want to thank the crowd. It has been an incredible atmosphere. And for me it's been an honor to play here again. Even though I'm leaving in the quarter finals, my feelings are great.

Well, he did that at the end with his finger. I won the fifth point in Czech Republic, which I think is more important than quarter finals here, and the crowd was not supporting me that time either. And I didn't do anything with my fingers or my face or my attitude there. In my opinion that's what he should have been doing here.

For the rest, nothing else to say. You need to analyze the match itself and not what happens afterwards, the consequences of everything. What you need to analyze is the match. For the rest we will go -- he'll go his way, I'll go mine, and we will meet or not. We'll see.

Q. You almost won the second set.
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. I played a good set. The set point, I could have been doing much better. But he was doing, Berdych was doing great with his shots and his backhand and was putting pressure on me. My second serve was a bit forced maybe. Oh well, that's how things are. I think my level has been very high, but he has won me. With playing a bad match anyway. His level was high as well. My level was high, too.

Q. Last year Federer and you won almost everything. Berdych only won Paris, Bercy. Does it make you feel better towards Shanghai?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, not at all. Because for me Madrid is one of the most important tournaments of the year. After the four Grand Slams. Well, Masters, Shanghai. Madrid is there for me, to play at home is very special, in the Masters Series, it's more special. I don't think it has been good for Shanghai. What's been good here is to keep playing at my high level.

I'm in a good way, and this is a good experience. I think I am training hard and with enthusiasm for a long time. And right now I'm achieving to become a more comprehensive player, better serve. My drive is working well now. Back hand is usually good. I'm at a very good stage of my career. For me that's very very important, and I've worked hard to be here.

Q. I need to go back to the subject that we talked about before. Don't you think you may have made a slight error when you shook hands with him and on TV you said he was an asshole?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, I didn't say that. Maybe you heard me wrong. I said he was stupid. That's a little bit less disrespectful.

No, in my opinion it hasn't been an error. In you're saying it's been an error, I respect you.

Q. No, I'm not here to give my opinion.
RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, you've given your opinion. You're going to have yours, and I'm going to have mine. An interviewer can have their opinion.

In my opinion he's a player that has an irate attitude. It's not an irate attitude that I have. He's not a bad person. He's said I said it in a cold tone of voice. End of story. You saw he left the stadium with the whistles of the crowd.

Q. You've played all around the world, and you've known many crowds, many different republics. Do you think the crowd here in Madrid has behaved correctly?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yes. It's been a great crowd.

Q. Last detail about the subject. He said you said, "You're very bad at the net." According to him he said, "Yes, but I won against you three times." Very few players have beaten you three times. That's something I heard somewhere.
RAFAEL NADAL: Has he said that? I didn't listen to that point.

Q. It was logical for the press that you would play the final?
RAFAEL NADAL: Logical for you, press, for you. I've been saying here every day it was not logical. For me it was a match I could lose, and I lost it. But I got a good image on every point. It's been lost. It's a match that I lost against a great player.

He won Roddick yesterday. He defeated him in two sets. That's something to take into account. He is at a high level, and you cannot stop him sometimes. And that's it.

If he said he won me three times, he's right.

Q. The other day when the first round match ended, when you were signing autographs a girl asked you if you were going to play the final, and you said very seriously, "No, I'm sorry, but I won't." Why? Why did you do that? It was in the tunnel.
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know. I don't know. I said, "I'm sorry, but, no", but I didn't say no like -- it was a no like, well, it's tough. I knew it was going to be difficult.

It's a surface that suits me, but it is tough. And you need to take that into account. It's a final in the Masters Series. It's not a bad result where I've reached against a great player. I'm not leaving the tournament with a poor feeling of myself. I'm satisfied. I don't want to go into excuses.

Even though we had this thing at the end, this incident, I wouldn't want the press conference to be focused on that, to see that in the press tomorrow.

The match is won with the racket. The rest is only something which can dirty the image of tennis. It hasn't been that serious. It's something that he could have not done, and that's it. For the rest, I accept it.

Q. Are you going to stay and watch Real Madrid?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know. What do the real supporters think? Do you want me to watch the final match or not? Because they say I am jinxed. I am not jinxed. Maybe I stay, yes, and watch it. I don't know.

Q. Could I ask you one last question about the crowd. Berdych said what he didn't like was the fact that the crowd -- he understood that the crowd supported you, but he didn't like the way the crowd was cheering his mistakes. And in particular when he served a double fault. What did you feel about the crowd's behavior at that point?
RAFAEL NADAL: I feel one thing. I feel when I was playing in Czech Republic in Davis Cup, when I had a double fault and the public supported him a lot and said, "Rafael", because I remember the public. I don't remember he don't say, "Please stop, stop, that's not correct." So now is the same.

Q. What he said though is that he expects that in the Davis Cup, but he would not expect it in another tournament.
RAFAEL NADAL: That's not true, because I play a lot of tournaments. And if you play against any local player, that's normal. That's good for tennis. Everything, the public support one player, the local player. Maybe for me the public of today was not bad with him. The public supported me a lot, and that's very nice.

Last week I played against players in Stockholm, and the public supported them a lot and supported when I made a double fault, when I made one mistake. So when I go to the press conference, I don't say nothing. So I say the public was very good, because that's good for the tennis. That's good for tennis. And in football, 1,000 people support his team, and the other team is normal. If you play in your house at home, it's normal that the public supports their player or their team.

Q. Different styles match up in different ways. Is there something about his style which matches up bad for you?
RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. He plays very aggressive. He has very good shots, very tough shots. He drives the ball very hard. He plays very long. It's difficult.

I am trying to sometimes returning inside the court. I am trying to sometimes go from the back for a return. I'm trying to play a little bit more aggressive, a little bit more defensive. I'm trying all the time to find a way. But it was very difficult. He was playing very good. I find a way, because I played a very good second set.

I had my chances, and I didn't have good luck in those moments. For me it was a nice match with different styles. He was good. He was playing very, very good. I was playing good, too. The tennis is two points sometimes. Today I had a chance with myself in the 6-5 and after in the 6-6. It was his ball and he had the passing shot, with the back hand, passing shot. At that moment the match changed a lot in one point. That's it.

But the match for me was a very nice match, a very good level with different styles. Both styles were good. His worked a little bit better, but I am trying for next year. I'll work harder for playing next year. And I want to win this match next year for sure. Thank you.

End of FastScripts...

http://www.asapsports.com/tennis/2006madrid/102006RN.html

mallorn
10-21-2006, 09:27 AM
Rafa has lost his cool twice this year. I think it's interesting to look at the circumstances in both cases. In Rome, he reacted angrily to Roger attacking his uncle. In Madrid, he got incensed when Berdych jeered at his supporters. In both situations Rafa spoke in anger instead of taking his time to cool down and get some perspective.

On the other hand, when asked about some dubious comments about himself made by fellow players (RG), all he said was something along the lines of "If that's what he said, it's ok."

This last incident was the first time Rafa reacted negatively to an opponent who beat him, as far as I can remember, yet predictably most people are calling him a sore loser. I'm disappointed Rafa said what he did, it was immature and rude, but I don't think we'd be having a gazillion posts about it in GM if Berdych hadn't made the gesture to the crowd. It was the gesture that made Rafa see red, not the loss. He's had some bad losses before and always credited his opponent. He's also had hostile crowds cheer his DFs before and dealt with that with aplomb, and he expected Berdych to do the same (And didn't Berdych know what happened in the Ginepri-Lopez match, when Ginepri's gesture was misunderstood? Shushing the crowd was a really childish and reckless thing to do.)

All in all, I think the word 'fiasco' applies to the whole incident. :(

Castafiore
10-21-2006, 09:36 AM
Yup. Fiasco is a great word to describe it. :lol::o

In both these cases, Rafa didn't seem to react to something that was said or done to himself but rather to something that was said and done to somebody else.
In the first occassion, it was in the Rome match and Rafa reacted strongly to a direct attack on his uncle.
In the second occassion, now, it was after Berdych made that reckless gesture to the crowd, taunting the crowd in a "cheer this!" way.
However, in both cases, I wished that Rafa had not reacted in such a way.

Up until now, he seems to be able to deal with direct attacks on him but it's much harder to stay calm when somebody close to him gets attacked.

***
The English transcript is weird. Is there a Spanish Rafafan around who can tell us if it's a good translation?

This bit in particular puzzles me a bit:
But I said that because in Toronto I didn't say anything, but he was constantly giving bad looks and nasty looks to the opponent. At that time it was not good.:confused:
What exactly is he referring to? Does anybody know?
I mean, if it's just "nasty looks"....what's wrong with that? It's match! You can't expect your opponent to smile and wave at you all the time.
Or is there more to it but it gets lost in translation.

Edit: Here's a small video from the Toronto match Rafa was referring to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEB4APLudBw

NeverSayDie
10-21-2006, 10:42 AM
Im so upset!!!!! :sobbing: :tears: Why did Berdych have to be in his side of the draw :sad: this titles Fed's for the taking :(

MariaV
10-21-2006, 11:03 AM
OK, here's the Spansh transcript of the press conf. Some things are kinda a bit different than in English. I guess some questiones were asked in Spanish and some in English.
But OK, let's put that fiasco behind us. :hug:

Rueda de prensa Rafael Nadal
Madrid, 20 octubre 2006


P. ¿Rafa que le dijiste a ver al final del juego que era muy malo, “very bad”?
Si, correcto

P. ¿Pero que querías decir con esto?
Al final del partido le he dicho que era muy mala persona, evidentemente si se lo he dicho sin ningún tipo de calentón, soy frío a la hora de perder, creo que es un jugador que demuestra semana tras semana que es uno de los mejores del mundo, esta cerca de los diez primeros, poca gente puede ganar a su nivel. Ya en Toronto, aunque no dije nada, llevaba mirándome mal, cuando yo no hago nada malo. Hoy durante el partido lo mismo, mirándome y con mala cara, con cara de sobriedad.
Yo durante el partido estoy concentrado y no voy a decir nada. Pero al final, el gesto del final ya sobró, para mi el público se portó de maravilla, no estuvo en contra de él, animó, hay que recordar en que estamos en España. El público aprovecha para agradecer y yo nunca he estado en este ambiente, me voy con una muy buena sensación, he jugado un buen nivel. Hacía tiempo que no lo conseguía. Yo en República Checa gané el quinto punto con el público en mi contra también y no tuve necesidad de hacer ningún tipo de gesto, que es lo que --en mi opinión-- deberia de haber hecho él. Lo que pasa después, las consecuencias, hay que analizarlo, lo demás… cada uno hace su partido.

P. Rafa, de todas formas has estado a punto de ganar el segundo set, has atacado.
He jugado muy bien, me ha faltado un pelin, con saque fuerte, él estaba pegando muy fuerte y presionándome mucho, me quede en la red, luego el segundo saque lo ajusté mucho, que le vamos a hacer. Felicitarle el partido. Pudo conseguir ganarme sin jugar yo mal.

P. El año pasado Federer y tú habéis ganado casi todos los partidos , Berdych ganó Paris, a lo mejor te sienta mejor para Shanghai, irás descansado.
Ni mucho menos, para Madrid es uno de los torneos de lo más impotrantes del año. Jugar en casa es especial y además en Masters Series aun. Me ha venido bien jugar como estoy jugando, creo que estoy en una buena línea. Si uno está jugando mal se complica. Tengo ilusión e intento mejorar las cosas, intento ser cada vez más completo, la derecha me vuelve a funcionar, el saque es cada vez mejor. He perdido, para mi es importante.

P. ¿No crees que te has equivocado al final del partido y luego llamándole imbécil? IMBECIL - HAHAHA :haha:
No le he llamado imbécil, sino estúpido, que es diferente un poco menos despectivo. En mi opinión no me he equivocado. Si tú opinas así lo respeto.

P. No, yo solo pregunto.
Yo creo que no me he equivocado, no se lo he dicho en caliente, sino con toda la tranquilidad del mundo le dije que era malo como persona, allí se acaba la historia. El estadio ha silbado.

P. Has felicitado al público, has conocido a muchos públicos. Crees que el público de Madrid se ha portado bien.
Para mi si, en todo momento ha sido un gran público.

P. Rafa, un último detalle, Berdych dijo que te había respondido que te ganó tres veces.
No lo he escuchado :yeah: :lol:

P. Te ganó tres veces, ¿por qué lo hace? Crees que es pedagógica esta derrota para la prensa, se suponía que ibas a ganar…
Vosotros lo suponíais como siempre, yo no suponía nada. Lo he dicho cada día, eran partidos con opciones para perder, pero se ha perdido dando buena imagen y contra un buen jugador que ganó a Roddick ayer. No creo que sea cuestión de casualidad. Y ya está. Si lo ha dicho tiene toda la razón del mundo.

P. El otro día mientras firmabas un autógrafo, una chica te preguntó si ibas a jugar la final y te he oído decir que lo sentías pero no.
Yo que sé, dije que no, lo siento pero no, pero no dije que no como no, sino como que es muy complicado. Es una superficie a mi me va bien, no me va mal pero es difícil. No es un mal resultado tampoco. Me voy con la sensación de haber jugado bien, me ha faltado solo un pelín. Y el incidente del final, no me gustaría que mañana la rueda de prensa fuese sobre el mismo tema, los partidos se ganan con la raqueta, no hay que ensuciar la imagen del tenis. Quizás gesto desafortunado y ya está, pero ha sido la puntilla.

P. ¿Te vas a quedar a ver el Madrid Barça?
Me dicen que soy gafe, o sea que no sé, puede ser que si que me quede. No lo sé.

P. Te voy a hacer una última pregunta sobre el público, Tomas durante la rueda de prensa ha dicho que lo que no le gustó es que le silbaran sus fallos, durante su doble falta especialmente. ¿Qué piensas?
Yo lo que pienso es cuando jugué en la República Checa el público le apoyó a él, a mi me hacían sentir mal, y él no les dijo que parasen.

P. Si, pero el dice que para un Copa Davis se puede esperar esta actitud y para este torneo, no.
No, no es cierto, jugando contra un local puede pasar. En mi opinión el público no se ha portado mal con él, ha apoyado, ha habido buen ambiente. En Estocolmo la semana pasada pasó lo mismo, el público apoyó a mi contrario y yo nunca me quejó, siempre digo que esto es bueno en el tenis, en el fútbol igual si juegas en casa es normal que el público y sus miles de seguidores apoyen a su equipo.

P. Rafa, diferentes estilos que han coincidido en la pista. ¿Hay algo que te incomode en su juego?
Es agresivo, con golpes muy duros, con un juego muy largo. A veces es difícil, a veces desde el fondo de la pista intento ser mas defensivo o agresivo, lo he intentado todo pero ha sido difícil. En segundo set he tenido oportunidades. Ha sido un partido bonito con distinto partidos, él ha jugado bien, yo también. En el tenis a veces son dos puntos. Cuando tenía el 6-5 él me hizo un ‘passing shot’ que sentenció el partido, ha sido un partido bonito, con diferentes niveles, los dos hemos jugado buen tenis, el suyo ha sido quizás mejor.

P. ¿Qué quieres el año que viene?
Quiero ganarle el año que viene, de esto estoy seguro.


http://tennis-masters-madrid.com/news/NewsDetail_603.htm

MariaV
10-21-2006, 11:16 AM
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The English transcript is weird. Is there a Spanish Rafafan around who can tell us if it's a good translation?

This bit in particular puzzles me a bit:
:confused:
What exactly is he referring to? Does anybody know?
I mean, if it's just "nasty looks"....what's wrong with that? It's match! You can't expect your opponent to smile and wave at you all the time.
Or is there more to it but it gets lost in translation.


Here the Spanish version.
Ya en Toronto, aunque no dije nada, llevaba mirándome mal, cuando yo no hago nada malo. Hoy durante el partido lo mismo, mirándome y con mala cara, con cara de sobriedad.
He says he didn't do anything bad ;) but Berdy gave him nasty (sober?) looks. What does he mean with the sobriedad I dunno, didn't find another meaning, sorry. :shrug:

:hug: I guess he didn't like his looks. ;) I can say my opinion here, Tomas has a look like a sly fox IMO. He has a doll face of course but his look I would describe as a sly fox, there's something in it. ;)

tennis2tennis
10-21-2006, 12:18 PM
I'm 100& with berdy on this one, the crowd were awful!

In Wimbledon they cheer for their players without celebrating double faults of opponents ! That's something the French do at the French Open and Berdy is right there was no excuse for the crowd behaviour, you can only excuse them if its a Davis Cup tie!
Even though Rafa has no control over the crowd he still needs to seriously grow up!

"Oh he gave me a bad look during the match that's why i called him stupid at the final handshake!"

well Doh maybe its got something to do with you fist pumping and bouncing up and down during his errors!

HOPE FEDERER WINS THE WHOLE THING:devil:

silver7
10-21-2006, 12:34 PM
:sad:

MariaV
10-21-2006, 12:59 PM
Oh guys, the jinx talk from Rafa.... I actually wanted to say that a long time ago - if I start to cheer for Fed, maybe then he'll start to lose too? :lol:
Cause I don't think my cheering does any good to Marat or Rafa. :o :o :o :sad:

mallorn
10-21-2006, 04:14 PM
Maria :hug: :lol: Don't you think that if you're a jinx and Rafa's a jinx, the jinxes cancel each outer out? :lol: That's the way I see it. ;)

Johnny Groove
10-21-2006, 04:58 PM
Maria :haha:

Tomas is such a sly fox! :aplot: :lol:


But, I think we all need to put this behind us, get to Paris and play very very well :yeah:

Jogg
10-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Rafa needs to grow up, he showed his age today!

Nobody's perfect, Rafa is normally very mature. Rafa shouldnt have said what he said, Berdych shouldn't have done what he did. But its not the end of the world, the whole thing has been blown out of proportion


But, I think we all need to put this behind us, get to Paris and play very very well :yeah:

Yeah hopefully he will do well in Paris

anyone know why he pulled out of Basel?

mallorn
10-22-2006, 02:55 PM
^^ Nope, still no news on why he pulled out, other than this brief info on a Swiss website that it was due to a "lapse of form," which was later removed. Rafa's official site is down again today and no news in Spanish press that I know of.

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From The Wrap:
Attitude at Altitude
Posted 10/21/2006 @ 6 :13 PM

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Rafael Nadal-Tomas Berdych: This was fun, even though I’m no Berdych fan—he’s always seemed testy and cold (he makes Djoko look warm and fuzzy by comparison). From watching on TV, I didn’t get the sense that the Madrid fans were particularly awful, but I can’t be sure. I wasn’t appalled by Berdych’s gesture, either—it seemed like a natural, if not exactly intelligent, reaction to the moment from a cranky, competitive guy. Granted, it wasn’t a typical “tennis” move, but it made for good drama.

As for Nadal, does he go too far by fist-pumping on opponents’ errors? I’ve never thought he did it to get into guys’ heads. More than most players, Nadal looks like he’s in his own world out there, in a sort of trance and oblivious to his opponent (not unlike Monica Seles when she was young). He plays at his own pace and, when he’s warned about it, can’t seem to understand that he’s doing anything wrong. It’s part of his mental approach to act like he owns the court and the match, opponent be damned.

Friday Nadal went into a little frenzy of self-exhortation after Berdych missed an easy overhead. Not classy, not “tennis” in the gentlemanly sense, no doubt about it. But he had also just made a great get to force Berdych to hit that overhead, which was worth getting excited about. I think it’s double-edged with Nadal. If he starts to worry about what his opponents think and comes out of that little world he’s in, he’s not going to be the competitor he is today. But he also can’t be surprised when his antics anger, and even fire up, the other guy.

Should Nadal fans worry about this disappointing defeat? I would say yes, because when I watch his game, I don’t see a guy who’s decisively better than the other guys in the Top 10. Actually, his success has always been a little surprising to me, the product of will as much as talent, which is one reason I'm a fan of his. Nadal’s backhand is not a natural shot, and his serve and return are just OK, so he’ll always play close matches where he relies on his intensity to pull him through. Which means he’ll always be in danger of the upset to a guy who serves big and can pound it into his backhand side (unlike Federer, who has a much tougher serve and return).

I am surprised that it’s Berdych who has his number. Nadal is an expert at getting guys running side-to-side with his hook forehands, and that’s obviously the key to beating the Big Berd.

(…)

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/thewrap/index.html

the_natural
10-23-2006, 10:55 AM
Rafa needs to grow up, he showed his age today!

Thomas is going to be one hell of a player though, a future number 1? Nadal shouldn't be too discouraged, he still has had a great year, Thomas is the real deal. I've been saying it for over a year now, he's just a damn good player when he is playing well!

Why dont u go back and worship ur "embassador of tennis" U pathetic sheepish fan boy/troll/hater

the_natural
10-23-2006, 11:08 AM
Hey Natural, I agree, he was standing too far at times and running around his bh too much and he gets out of court then but you have to keep in mind that it's not so easy to change your habits. Take the Dementieva serve for example, how much has she tried to change it and serving great at trainings but she still falls back to old ways in match play. That's the same with Rafa, he still feels more comfortable playing far behind the baseline and in the defense, his Wimbledon matches I saw (didn't see the Kendrick one) were amazing but he isn't as consistent and comfortable hitting flatter and coming to the net. But I have always been amazed by how fast and good learner he is and I'm sure he'll get even better for the next season (AO) with Toni. :wavey: And I absolutely loved how he played the end, that's why I was so happy. :D
And let's see how he can cope with Berdych's power hitting tonight.

Actually i cant full agree with u there, go to youtube and look up the Nadal Barghdatis match from Indian wells (or type in baghdatis and look for his top rated clips i think it should be on the first page), look at rafas feet, sure on Marcos' serve he starts behind the baseline to get the ball back in but He is constantly looking to move forward, lookin for that next ball to move up a little more, he may "dance" forward ever so slightly just before marcos strikes it, if he can see the ball is goin deep he will jump back a bit, but when he sees it wont be too powerful or too heavy or too deep, he takes a step up, then he does the same with the next and the next until he is on the baseline and then the opponent is the one moving back and running side to side. He has not done that Since Wimbledon (except thsoe 2 matches at the USO, Against Scud and Moodie), in fact at Madrid he was lookin for the next shot but he was moving backwards on his shots, like He was constantly "dancing" backwards and he didnt have that same "hunger" and of course, he didnt move Berdych around the court, berdych is a "bad" mover.

If rafa wants to beat him on a fast court again hes gotta rethink things, stop tryin to hit THROUGH the berd man (especially from so far behind the baseline), cos it bounces perfectly into his hitting zone, and rather than focussing on gettin an extra ball back focus on placement (Maybe a little less pace but enough topspin to keep it safe), and develop the backhand slice So he gets the big guy bending alot they hate the sliced shots. Oh and since berdych commands on his serve the best time to try different dangerous strategies is on rafas serve when hes 40-love up, put a good one in and rather than tryin to finish the point, work him over as much as possible, make him run even if he wins the point, until it gets to 40-30 (at least), keep focussin on makin him run it will slowly wear him down, then on the other points focus on winning them at all costs. If rafa had some big weapons hed be able to work on different strategies while relying on his weapon to take of some of the pressure of winning crucial points :sad:

jacobhiggins
10-25-2006, 09:03 PM
Why dont u go back and worship ur "embassador of tennis" U pathetic sheepish fan boy/troll/hater

Cry me a river lol!

Carlita
10-25-2006, 09:34 PM
ah! Look who's back......:rolleyes:

don't come here to bash Rafa.....we have a place called General Messages for that..... (all within reason of course:p)

thank you

Castafiore
10-25-2006, 10:27 PM
His match against Baghdatis in Wimbledon was one of his best of the year for me.

KiwiChica
11-20-2006, 02:14 PM
Woops, I completely forgot to post the links to my cazillion of pictures I took of Rafa in Madrid. Including ass-shots and shirtchanges. :lol:

Take some time to view them, there are LOADS. And, yes, you may use them, but please be so kind as to ask first, give credit to Kiwi and upload them to your own server when using them somewhere else ... gracias.

So here we go:

Training sessions:

http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o188/TMSMadrid2006/RafaTraining/

Rafa vs Fish:

http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o188/TMSMadrid2006/RafaFish/

Rafa vs Haas:

http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o188/TMSMadrid2006/RafaHaas/

Rafa vs Berdych:

http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o188/TMSMadrid2006/RafaQF/