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Daviscuplova
09-24-2006, 01:21 PM
:o

hitchhiker
09-24-2006, 01:22 PM
welcome to MTF

this thread should get you started with vcash

savesthedizzle
09-24-2006, 01:24 PM
Source? Link? Anything? :lol:

And of course that's true. Murray and Gasquet both actually challenge him.

tangerine_dream
09-24-2006, 01:24 PM
Roger eating his foot again? He's been doing a lot of this lately. :lol:

If Djokovic's so bad then why didn't Roger just triple bagel him?

Daviscuplova
09-24-2006, 01:26 PM
Commentator translated it!!! Right after the match!!!

Exodus
09-24-2006, 01:26 PM
Roger eating his foot again? He's been doing a lot of this lately. :lol:

If Djokovic's so bad then why didn't Roger just triple bagel him?

he is that bad but compared to gasquet he's nothing

KaxMisha
09-24-2006, 01:28 PM
If Djokovic's so bad then why didn't Roger just triple bagel him?

Is this some kind of stupid joke? How do you read in "I should triple bagel Djokovic every time" into "Djokovic has a longer way to go than Murray and Gasquet"? That's not saying Djokovic is bad (or "so bad", as you put it) - that's saying Murray and Gasquet are better. I'm not even sure I agree with this quote from Federer, but how some people try to be all over players they dislike and put words into their mouths to beat down on them is just sickening (and of course funny, in a sad sort of way).

Wojtek
09-24-2006, 01:28 PM
It's true

savesthedizzle
09-24-2006, 01:28 PM
No way!!!

:shrug:

Why is this a big deal? Didn't everyone already know Djokovic still had a way to go? Especially compared to Murray and Gasquet? :scratch: It's not like Roger said Novak was the crappiest player he's ever beaten.

KaxMisha
09-24-2006, 01:29 PM
No way!!!

:shrug:

Why is this a big deal? Didn't everyone already know Djokovic still had a way to go? Especially compared to Murray and Gasquet? :scratch: It's not like Roger said Novak was the crappiest player he's ever beaten.

Word.

Saumon
09-24-2006, 01:29 PM
Commentator translated it!!! Right after the match!!!
he said that in which language?

tangerine_dream
09-24-2006, 01:30 PM
Commentator translated it!!! Right after the match!!!
Oh, it's translated? If it's not a direct quote then I take back what I said.

PahelWaske
09-24-2006, 01:30 PM
No way!!!

:shrug:

Why is this a big deal? Didn't everyone already know Djokovic still had a way to go? Especially compared to Murray and Gasquet? :scratch: It's not like Roger said Novak was the crappiest player he's ever beaten.


I concur.

Samuel
09-24-2006, 01:32 PM
He said that in the swiss-german interview.
He didn't say Djokovic was bad, but he said he had a lot more work to do, and that he got lucky in the last set to come back at all.
And compared to Murray, Gasquet and certainly Nadal he has a lot more work to do.
Now you say that he is as good as Gasquet or Nadal?? :rolleyes:

In that perspective he is right, isn't he?

KaxMisha
09-24-2006, 01:32 PM
Oh, it's translated? If it's not a direct quote then I take back what I said.

Even if it were a direct quote, what you said would have made absolutely no sense.

hitchhiker
09-24-2006, 01:32 PM
Oh, it's translated? If it's not a direct quote then I take back what I said.

to late now

Daviscuplova
09-24-2006, 01:32 PM
He said it in french, I understand french and the commentator translated it correct as well...!

TennisAgenda
09-24-2006, 01:33 PM
Is there a link to this interview or an article? Is there any proof Roger actually made these comments?

savesthedizzle
09-24-2006, 01:34 PM
Even so, it's not like it's offensive or shocking.

It's like me starting a thread tomorrow title "I ate toast for breakfast." :shrug:

Samuel
09-24-2006, 01:36 PM
I heard both interviews, the one in french and the one in swiss-german. In the french one he didn't even say it as clearly as in the second one.
Of course, the serbian commenator won't have liked that comment.

Sunset of Age
09-24-2006, 01:37 PM
Is this some kind of stupid joke? How do you read in "I should triple bagel Djokovic every time" into "Djokovic has a longer way to go than Murray and Gasquet"? That's not saying Djokovic is bad (or "so bad", as you put it) - that's saying Murray and Gasquet are better. I'm not even sure I agree with this quote from Federer, but how some people try to be all over players they dislike and put words into their mouths to beat down on them is just sickening (and of course funny, in a sad sort of way).

I couldn't agree with you more. Everything that Roger says gets interpreted by some people as to make him appear arrogant, while he's only telling... the truth. Hard to take for some, but TMF is indeed THE BEST!

Byrd
09-24-2006, 01:38 PM
Fitness wise he has a long way to go, but his game hasn't.

Naranoc
09-24-2006, 01:39 PM
He's got every right to say it, since it's true. People are finding it offensive because it's rubbing the salt in the wound I suppose ''Ha Ha, I just kicked your ass. You're no where near the other young guns'' :D

bad gambler
09-24-2006, 01:40 PM
Fair enough - Federer has played all 3 of them couple of times

controlfreak
09-24-2006, 01:43 PM
Well at least Djokovic is getting mentioned in the same sentence as Murray and Gasquet. And that sentence wasn't "Novak you arse clown, I ordered two coffees and a ham sandwich fifteen minutes ago, go and get me your manager because you've made me miss the beginning of the Murray-Gasquet match".

Saumon
09-24-2006, 01:44 PM
He said it in french, I understand french and the commentator translated it correct as well...!
well Fed isn't that fluent in French, he sometimes says things that don't express what he wanted to say :o

Saumon
09-24-2006, 01:46 PM
Well at least Djokovic is getting mentioned in the same sentence as Murray and Gasquet. And that sentence wasn't "Novak you arse clown, I ordered two coffees and a ham sandwich fifteen minutes ago, go and get me your manager because you've made me miss the beginning of the Murray-Gasquet match".
:lol:

Dixon
09-24-2006, 01:50 PM
well Fed isn't that fluent in French, he sometimes says things that don't express what he wanted to say :oHe said it in swiss-german what he can speak quite fluent :wavey:

savesthedizzle
09-24-2006, 01:52 PM
It doesn't matter what language he said it in because in French or Swiss-German it's still true :lol: He does have a long way to go still. I am reminded of the "debate" I had with ezekiel in GM last week or so where I doubted Novak's ability to beat top players. The other two have beaten the top guys, their game is at that level. Novak isn't quite there yet. I don't think many Djokovic fans are at all put off by his statement, we know it's true. :shrug:

nobama
09-24-2006, 01:53 PM
Even if it were a direct quote, what you said would have made absolutely no sense.Yes it would because she's as bad a 'tard' as anyone else here.

nobama
09-24-2006, 01:56 PM
Is there a link to this interview or an article? Is there any proof Roger actually made these comments?He's just calling it like he sees it. Murray beat him this year. Gasquet beat him last year and got to the finals in Toronto where he played him tough. His comments aren't shocking. :shrug:

richie21
09-24-2006, 01:57 PM
Federer: "Djokovic has a longer way to go than Murray and Gasquet!"

nothing surprising there though.....we already knew that. :o

KaxMisha
09-24-2006, 02:37 PM
Yes it would because she's as bad a 'tard' as anyone else here.

Yes, that I know, and with that in mind, the fact that she posted it would have made sense. What I meant was that it still would make no logical sense. :)

sanpo
09-24-2006, 02:58 PM
Some people assume easily that any comments to any player by one player has to be taken as a negative.

lucashg
09-24-2006, 03:00 PM
People just love some drama. It's the truth and it's not offensive to Djokovic. Get over your bitterness, tards. :)

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 03:24 PM
Novak is just in bad form now, he is better than Federer at his age . As far as Murray and Gasquet, well did he or anyone judge them earlier in the year when they were sucking ?

Horatio Caine
09-24-2006, 03:26 PM
He's right...

mangoes
09-24-2006, 03:31 PM
Even so, it's not like it's offensive or shocking.

It's like me starting a thread tomorrow title "I ate toast for breakfast." :shrug:


Oh this is going to be interesting. Jess, the Biggest Djokovic fan on MTF doesn't find the statement offensive.

But, individuals, who don't give two fiddles about Djokovic, find the statement offensive :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 03:31 PM
nothing surprising there though.....we already knew that. :o

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and let's remember his loss to some journeyman in qualifying in Pörtschach

:rolls:

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 03:34 PM
Even so, it's not like it's offensive or shocking.

It's like me starting a thread tomorrow title "I ate toast for breakfast." :shrug:

Seriously , you are scaring me a little if you have no trust in him and don't find this offensive indeed or it's now ok think low of him .You are taking this glass is half empty approach way too far . Get some perspective , please :wavey:

Peoples
09-24-2006, 03:34 PM
Longer way to go doesn't mean less talented, although he might or might not be less talented as well.

R.Federer
09-24-2006, 03:40 PM
I guess we know which Group of Youngsters has more potential and Why, in Roger's mind. It's always good to get the impressions of people who actually play against these guys.
Poor Nole, must suck to hear that though!

Raquel
09-24-2006, 03:44 PM
Roger eating his foot again? He's been doing a lot of this lately. :lol:
He has? :scratch:

When?

mangoes
09-24-2006, 03:45 PM
Seriously , you are scaring me a little if you have no trust in him and don't find this offensive indeed or it's now ok think low of him .You are taking this glass is half empty approach way too far . Get some perspective , please :wavey:


You don't give a shit about Djokovic. You're just using this as an opportunity to bitch Roger out. So predictable from you :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Volandri thought he could beat Rafa today. Go bitch Volandri out for having the balls to take a set off your boy, Rafa.

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 03:53 PM
I guess we know which Group of Youngsters has more potential and Why, in Roger's mind. It's always good to get the impressions of people who actually play against these guys.
Poor Nole, must suck to hear that though!

Don't worry, he is not crying himself to bed. He probably knows he is in poor form now, in fact Hewitt beat him worse than Fed earlier this month and let's remember earlier this year as an 18 year old he took foderer to 3 sets .

Anyway, Fed is arrogant here as he has right to be but somehow like against Rafa it could give him more trouble than he wishes for in the future

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 03:57 PM
You don't give a shit about Djokovic. You're just using this as an opportunity to bitch Roger out. So predictable from you :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Volandri thought he could beat Rafa today. Go bitch Volandri out for having the balls to take a set off your boy, Rafa.

I am fan of Novak and mostly Rafa and few others . I still like Fed mostly but the sycophants around him are just too much

mangoes
09-24-2006, 04:04 PM
I am fan of Novak and mostly Rafa and few others . I still like Fed mostly but the sycophants around him are just too much


Please, don't insult me. You don't like Federer. There are fans of Rafa that like Roger; however, considering all the posts I've read from you, I wouldn't even put you down as a neutral, you get the "hata of Roger" category ;) :p If dedicated Djokovic fans don't have a problem with the statement, please stop trying to use it to throw another dart at Roger.

MurrayFan1
09-24-2006, 04:06 PM
IMO, Gasquet is already better than both of them, but Murray is closer.

NYCtennisfan
09-24-2006, 04:10 PM
It is strange how Federer offers very honest critique (or at least things the way HE sees it) when asked about other players. Usually when top players are asked about other young up and comers, they say things like, "He's talented and has a bright future," and leave it at that, but you have the feeling that Federer is looking at these youngsters' games trying to see what he needs to add to stay on top for a few years longer.

As for this match, I wouldn't read too much into it. Djokovic is not playing well right now just as Murray and Gasquet had stretches where they stunk it up this year. YOu combine that with the fact that Djokovic played Federer playing with no pressure on him (at least no pressure of the ATP year left) and you get a beat down. Eveyone would've gotten a beatdown.

sawan66278
09-24-2006, 04:10 PM
While the comment itself is not arrogant, let's just say that Roger is not going to placed in any diplomatic positions in the future...Truthful analysis is one thing, but comparisons to other players, unless the questioner SPECIFICALLY asks for a comparison of Djokovic to Murray and/or Gasquet, is unnecessary...The statement may be true, but after a defeat, it is not in good taste...

Bilbo
09-24-2006, 04:11 PM
Federer is right in my opinion

LoveFifteen
09-24-2006, 04:29 PM
It's true. :shrug:

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 04:33 PM
Please, don't insult me. You don't like Federer. There are fans of Rafa that like Roger; however, considering all the posts I've read from you, I wouldn't even put you down as a neutral, you get the "hata of Roger" category ;) :p If dedicated Djokovic fans don't have a problem with the statement, please stop trying to use it to throw another dart at Roger.

It's only an insult if you take it as such and there are fair fans out there of course who let players speak for themselves. I have been a detractor of him this year but that was when he talking maliciously of Rafa and some extreme fans were going overboard in justifying it

On this thread issue, I have to retract a bit. I don't know the context under which he said this , it could have been positive and encouraging or it could have been simple sportsamanship and Fed is master of that . After all this is a competitive sport and other players will give you hard time. I mean Novak is young and I seem to remember vaguely that Fed was dissed when he was younger also until he proved them wrong. I have a hard time time seeing him say it in a malicious manner and I'd have to see it with my own eyes to believe that .

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 04:42 PM
It is strange how Federer offers very honest critique (or at least things the way HE sees it) when asked about other players. Usually when top players are asked about other young up and comers, they say things like, "He's talented and has a bright future," and leave it at that, but you have the feeling that Federer is looking at these youngsters' games trying to see what he needs to add to stay on top for a few years longer.

Is that why he called Rafa "one dimensional" :confused:
He is talkative but I don't know about honest ,I mean he is competitive player after all and looking for his own interest but he is not boring at all unlike popular belief .

As for this match, I wouldn't read too much into it. Djokovic is not playing well right now just as Murray and Gasquet had stretches where they stunk it up this year. YOu combine that with the fact that Djokovic played Federer playing with no pressure on him (at least no pressure of the ATP year left) and you get a beat down. Eveyone would've gotten a beatdown.

Correct, he is not playing well at all now and said so after Wawrinka match even as he won that match

World Beater
09-24-2006, 04:43 PM
Don't worry, he is not crying himself to bed. He probably knows he is in poor form now, in fact Hewitt beat him worse than Fed earlier this month and let's remember earlier this year as an 18 year old he took foderer to 3 sets .

Anyway, Fed is arrogant here as he has right to be but somehow like against Rafa it could give him more trouble than he wishes for in the future

its only arrogance if he is elevating himself. he has said such things in the past, but this isnt one of them.

until djokovic gets to an ms final or has a big win in a slam, then he is comparable to the others. so i dont see the point of you bringing up some bad results of gasquet when he clearly has had better ones.

NYCtennisfan
09-24-2006, 04:54 PM
Is that why he called Rafa "one dimensional" :confused:
He is talkative but I don't know about honest ,I mean he is competitive player after all and looking for his own interest but he is not boring at all unlike popular belief .

I believe he was completely honest when he said that. He didn't say he was one-dimensional and sucked. He said his game was one-dimensional which it is. So was Edberg's and McEnroe's to be honest, but they all have had great results.

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 04:59 PM
its only arrogance if he is elevating himself. he has said such things in the past, but this isnt one of them.

or belittling others. Now he has a right to be with his own generation who are no threat to him but younger players are getting better and just like with Rafa such statements give them just more incentive but I really should not be complaining :)

until djokovic gets to an ms final or has a big win in a slam, then he is comparable to the others. so i dont see the point of you bringing up some bad results of gasquet when he clearly has had better ones.

He's got plenty of time to get results . As for Gasquet, well he was bad for months and he wouldn't be in this debate at all then

Tennis Fool
09-24-2006, 05:00 PM
Even if it were a direct quote, what you said would have made absolutely no sense.
Welcome to Tangy's world :)

silverwhite
09-24-2006, 05:02 PM
and let's remember his loss to some journeyman in qualifying in Pörtschach

:rolls:

Woah! You seem to be quite knowledgeable about his progress this year. Are you secretly a big fan or something? Do drop by his forum for a chat. :kiss:

World Beater
09-24-2006, 05:06 PM
He's got plenty of time to get results . As for Gasquet, well he was bad for months and he wouldn't be in this debate at all then

nobody is debating this fact. But he hasnt yet achieved those "results".

fyi, federer also called sampras one dimensional. We all know how much fed respects sampras.

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 05:10 PM
I believe he was completely honest when he said that. He didn't say he was one-dimensional and sucked. He said his game was one-dimensional which it is. So was Edberg's and McEnroe's to be honest, but they all have had great results.

I believe he was honest too but not balanced. We need to balance his statement against someone on the other side whoever that is. In the context it wasn't positive or even a neutral statement but clearly made out of frustration . I don't think Nadal is one dimensional at all, he just has a specific and unique style and physique . It's not yet effective on fast hardcourts but he is young

adee-gee
09-24-2006, 05:15 PM
I wouldn't take much notice in what Federer says. He also thinks he can beat Nadal on clay :p

KaxMisha
09-24-2006, 05:15 PM
I don't think Nadal is one dimensional at all, he just has a specific and unique style and physique . It's not yet effective on fast hardcourts but he is young

Huh? Nadal definitely is one-dimensional in the sense that he can only win points in one way (basically). That's why Nadal's dead when opponents with powerful shots don't miss against him. If his primary gameplan doesn't do the trick, he has nothing else to use. Now, his primary gameplan is very good, so he is still a very good player, but that doesn't make him any less one-dimensional.

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 05:21 PM
nobody is debating this fact. But he hasnt yet achieved those "results".

Correct , that's why it's better to let him play and prove himself instead of judging him

fyi, federer also called sampras one dimensional. We all know how much fed respects sampras.

I didn't know that , can you provide the link?
I guess it could be argued as he was mainly serve & volley and poor on clay

ezekiel
09-24-2006, 05:26 PM
Huh? Nadal definitely is one-dimensional in the sense that he can only win points in one way (basically). That's why Nadal's dead when opponents with powerful shots don't miss against him. If his primary gameplan doesn't do the trick, he has nothing else to use. Now, his primary gameplan is very good, so he is still a very good player, but that doesn't make him any less one-dimensional.

I prefer the term "unique" in body and game . I call him Shaq of tennis, he bullies his opponents until they give up, it's fun :p

Experimentee
09-24-2006, 05:34 PM
Its fair enough for Fed to say that. I like Djokovic most out of the 3, but he's the one who least challenges Fed whenever they've played. Murray and Gasquet were able to win once.

BORO77
09-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Nole is much better than Murray imo. i dont understand how murray
beacme a pro tennis player anyway, i see him as one of the poorest
players on tour.
Gasquet is a great player, maybe next season will be better for him
Djokovic should make the top10 very soon if he continues like this.

doublebackhand
09-24-2006, 05:42 PM
roger has every right to voice his opinion on tennis, asked or not, and that wont be in bad taste, coz he has earned it. i am sure his opinion is more valid than any of the posters here. and i absolutely saw nothing wrong with what he said regarding djokovic or nadal. i am sure even novak djokovic will be less offended than some of his fans here with some messed-up grey cells.

adee-gee
09-24-2006, 05:47 PM
Nole is much better than Murray imo. i dont understand how murray
beacme a pro tennis player anyway, i see him as one of the poorest
players on tour.
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Do they have schools in Croatia? :scratch:

Pfloyd
09-24-2006, 05:50 PM
It's true, Djokovic has to put things together in order to escalate the rankings.

By the way, don't compare Gasquet to Nadal just yet. Let him win to Grandslams first, then we can put Gasquet and Nadal is in the same category.

Samuel
09-24-2006, 06:17 PM
For all those who are interested, the link where you can watch the original interview in swiss-german. :p
http://www1.sf.tv/sfsport/artikel.php?catid=sporttennisartikel&docid=20060924_01
I'll try to make a translation.

Congrats to staying in the worldclass, would you agree that this team doesn't belong to the second class?

Yes I think so, because we have a strong team, we played very well at the doubles. And also yesterday we played very solid. The first match was won and stan was able to make him tired. That shows that we have a good team. And we are deservedly in the worldclass.

In my opinion you played incredibly well today especially those passing shots, what is it like, if there are 4,5,6 such shots in a row, is this normal or are you still surprised about it, that each one stays in the field?

Sure. Of course, I try to improve my chances with footwork, with anticipation, and then I hope to hit a winner. erhm and I have big expectations about myself that I return as many as possible. That's also why I belive I can hit winners in defence. And I think that's what I did today. The Surface allows me to do so, an thus I can play offensive and deffensive. That's why I am playing so well.

I asked you once, if you would change your forehand with an other player, and you said, no you liked your forehand. There's most probably no other player who plays with such a good forehand. Is there someone on the tour who moves better?

Well, I think you've got to see it on the whole. I'm all right with my footwork, Leyton Hewitt might be faster, but he plays differently he doesn't play as good in the offensive. And erm...there are different set ups and techniques and feetwork and I have the luck that the overall is ok for me and I'm certainly fortunate.

There has been much talk about the youngsters who should make preassure who should be the challenging players, where would you rank Djokovic?

I don't think he's bad, but I don't think he's as good as Murray or Gasquet or certainly Nadal. erm I think he has a longer way to go and I think he has still got some troubles with his technique...in the end he began to drop his level. He was fortunate to even return in the third set. That's why I think he's got a longer way to go than the others.

Now, this season would have almost been the perfect season. There were two sets missing for the Grand Slam win. Now in the aftermath we could say this. What else can you achieve now, for the rest of the season?

Well I've still planned a lot, I travel to Japan next week. Then I'll come back to Madrid, then of course the home-tournament in Basel wich I hope works out well this time, and then Paris. I missed all these tournaments during the last...the last two years because of injuries, fatique. And then ther's also the Masters at Shanghai. So there s a big programm ahead of me, and I just hope I can play everything, because I like playing indoors.

We hope so too. Best of luck. Thank you.

MurrayFan1
09-24-2006, 06:25 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Do they have schools in Croatia? :scratch:

My sentiments exactly.

KaxMisha
09-24-2006, 06:30 PM
I prefer the term "unique" in body and game . I call him Shaq of tennis, he bullies his opponents until they give up, it's fun :p

Well, now we're just debating terminology, but I can see from your reply that you too realize that he is one-dimensional in the sense that Federer meant. That does by no means mean he's not a great player.

DrJules
09-24-2006, 07:19 PM
Federer has lost to Murray and Gasquet.
Federer has NOT lost to Djokovic.

Maybe related to comment.

DrJules
09-24-2006, 07:22 PM
I believe he was completely honest when he said that. He didn't say he was one-dimensional and sucked. He said his game was one-dimensional which it is. So was Edberg's and McEnroe's to be honest, but they all have had great results.

Edberg and McEnroe 1 dimensional. Really :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edberg's game was very flexible and adapted to most conditions.
McEnroe was one of the most creative shot makers on a court of all time.

*Viva Chile*
09-24-2006, 08:17 PM
This is nothing compared about the "joke" thing that is commented in the other thread.

NYCtennisfan
09-24-2006, 08:39 PM
Edberg and McEnroe 1 dimensional. Really :lol: :lol: :lol:

Edberg's game was very flexible and adapted to most conditions.
McEnroe was one of the most creative shot makers on a court of all time.

They were both serve and volleyers who attacked the net on their opponents' serve games as well. Edberg and McEnroe won one way and that was by s/v and attacking the net on returns game. They weren't going to slug it out from the baseline. How many big shots did McEnroe hit from the baseline in a slugfest? Just take a look at his groundstrokes...that wasn't his game. If you want to talk about I'm not talking about success on surfaces which is an entirely different matter.

Some players who were less one-dimensional i.e. won with more than one style of play, take a look at Stich or Becker. Both could s/v and trade groundstrokes. Mecir is another one who could win with more than just one strategy. Lendl could also mix it up once he learned how to s/v well.

lucashg
09-24-2006, 09:14 PM
By the way, don't compare Gasquet to Nadal just yet. Let him win to Grandslams first, then we can put Gasquet and Nadal is in the same category.

:retard: :retard: :retard:

DDrago2
09-24-2006, 10:07 PM
Federer: "Djokovic has a longer than Murray and Gasquet!"

Merton
09-24-2006, 10:26 PM
There is nothing really controversial in what Roger said, it is important that Nole has not won against a top player yet. Having said that, it does not mean he will achieve less than Murray or Gasquet.

"There has been much talk about the youngsters who should make preassure who should be the challenging players, where would you rank Djokovic?

I don't think he's bad, but I don't think he's as good as Murray or Gasquet or certainly Nadal. erm I think he has a longer way to go and I think he has still got some troubles with his technique...in the end he began to drop his level. He was fortunate to even return in the third set. That's why I think he's got a longer way to go than the others."

Deivid23
09-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Simple, Federer is angry at Nole for several reasons and he thinks he harms him by downplaying his abilities. But donīt worry, last one laughs harder and Nole will win him a match soon enough ;)

GlennMirnyi
09-24-2006, 10:58 PM
It's true, Djokovic has to put things together in order to escalate the rankings.

By the way, don't compare Gasquet to Nadal just yet. Let him win to Grandslams first, then we can put Gasquet and Nadal is in the same category.

You can't compare both because Gasquet is light-years ahead technically.

scarecrows
09-24-2006, 11:01 PM
I wouldn't take much notice in what Federer says. He also thinks he can beat Nadal on clay :p


he can and he will :)

scarecrows
09-24-2006, 11:02 PM
Simple, Federer is angry at Nole for several reasons and he thinks he harms him by downplaying his abilities. But donīt worry, last one laughs harder and Nole will win him a match soon enough ;)


I doubt Nole will ever laugh as hard as Federer

PamV
09-24-2006, 11:09 PM
Roger eating his foot again? He's been doing a lot of this lately. :lol:

If Djokovic's so bad then why didn't Roger just triple bagel him?

What's wrong with Roger giving his opinion? It's not like saying Djokovic has further to go than Murray and Gasquet is an insult. Maybe it's just the truth as he sees it. Look at their results in tournaments over this year and perhaps what Roger is considering is that Murray beat bigger names, and Gasquet has won two tournaments this year.

I compared them and it seems Djokovic has had his better results on clay.

Allure
09-24-2006, 11:47 PM
You can't compare both because Gasquet is light-years ahead technically.

:yeah:

radics
09-25-2006, 12:01 AM
Simple, Federer is angry at Nole for several reasons and he thinks he harms him by downplaying his abilities. But donīt worry, last one laughs harder and Nole will win him a match soon enough ;) And what are those reasons? If you know that Roger is angry at Nole for several reasons, you HAVE to know more than we do. So... what is it?

ezekiel
09-25-2006, 12:39 AM
Simple, Federer is angry at Nole for several reasons and he thinks he harms him by downplaying his abilities. But donīt worry, last one laughs harder and Nole will win him a match soon enough ;)
:yeah:
Let's not speculate on reasons though

vincayou
09-25-2006, 12:41 AM
Federer doesn't like Djokovic too much it seems.

ezekiel
09-25-2006, 12:44 AM
And what are those reasons? If you know that Roger is angry at Nole for several reasons, you HAVE to know more than we do. So... what is it?

I think Fed is always checking out the competition and he is just preparing himself for the future , that's all. He owns his own generation game wise and mentally so he is trying that with youngsters as well . Roger was no angel when he was younger from what's being told, he was slaming racquets and being obnoxious until he grew up. It was simple gamesmanship though everyone is surprised by the tenacity of his outburst

ezekiel
09-25-2006, 12:45 AM
Federer doesn't like Djokovic too much it seems.

He doesn't like Nadal , Djokovic
He loves Roddick, Blake, Ljubi ...

Guess which one I choose ?

vincayou
09-25-2006, 12:46 AM
I think Fed is always checking out the competition and he is just preparing himself for the future , that's all. He owns his own generation game wise and mentally so he is trying that with youngsters as well . Roger was no angel when he was younger from what's being told, he was slaming racquets and being obnoxious until he grew up. It was simple gamesmanship though everyone is surprised by the tenacity of his outburst

Always said nice things about Gasquet and Murray though. I think that Fed didn't like Djokovic gamemanship that's all.

vincayou
09-25-2006, 12:48 AM
He doesn't like Nadal , Djokovic
He loves Roddick, Blake, Ljubi ...

Guess which one I choose ?

I don't think he dislikes Nadal.

ezekiel
09-25-2006, 12:53 AM
Always said nice things about Gasquet and Murray though. I think that Fed didn't like Djokovic gamemanship that's all.

must be cause they are nice guys

ezekiel
09-25-2006, 12:54 AM
I don't think he dislikes Nadal.

:rolleyes:

radics
09-25-2006, 09:05 AM
I think Fed is always checking out the competition and he is just preparing himself for the future , that's all. He owns his own generation game wise and mentally so he is trying that with youngsters as well . Roger was no angel when he was younger from what's being told, he was slaming racquets and being obnoxious until he grew up. It was simple gamesmanship though everyone is surprised by the tenacity of his outburst

Thanks good you travel around the world with Roger 24/7 and know what exactly he thinks about those people. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. May God-Gussing be with you.

richie21
09-25-2006, 04:27 PM
Always said nice things about Gasquet and Murray though. I think that Fed didn't like Djokovic gamemanship that's all.

yeah especially about Gasquet :)
for me,the best compliment he made for Gasquet was when he said once:" he(Gasquet) really reminds me a bit myself when i was younger" :)

Jimena
09-25-2006, 04:56 PM
You can't compare both because Gasquet is light-years ahead technically.
But Nadal's light-years ahead in terms of results. I love Richard, he's my favorite of all the young ones. But he needs the results to match his considerable talent. Nadal's already done that.

richie21
09-25-2006, 05:07 PM
But Nadal's light-years ahead in terms of results. I love Richard, he's my favorite of all the young ones. But he needs the results to match his considerable talent. Nadal's already done that.

on clay yeah but he is certainly not light-years ahead in term of results on hardcourt.

Corey Feldman
09-25-2006, 05:37 PM
He doesn't like Nadal , Djokovic
He loves Roddick, Blake, Ljubi ...

Guess which one I choose ?who cares ??
guess what though ? your a tosser.

R.Federer
09-25-2006, 06:09 PM
Nole doesn't seem to mind hearing the truth from Roger. Nole's own comments were that Roger was fantastic, and the shots were so amazing that it's hard to believe Roger is from the same planet :angel:

Nole: too much respect for Roger will keep you for ever in a losing position against him! :lol:

Jimena
09-25-2006, 06:53 PM
on clay yeah but he is certainly not light-years ahead in term of results on hardcourt.
I still think he is ahead. And by quite a bit. Nadal made it to the quarterfinals at the US Open, won AMS Canada last year, won Dubai this year against Roger, won AMS Madrid last year as well... I think Gasquet has all the tools to surpass these results and be better than Nadal, but he hasn't done it yet.

As for Roger's comments, I'd agree. Then again, I haven't seen Djokovic play lately so I don't know how far he's progressed.

Jadranka
09-25-2006, 07:26 PM
Djole is better than Murray and Gasquet :o
pfff

brent-o
09-25-2006, 07:41 PM
Ahh, it seems Federer has been channeling Hingis' Swiss Bitchiness lately. Ever since the snarky comments about Nadal earlier this year, he's been on a roll (Granted, not to Ljubicic size proportions). It's entertaining.

chicky841
09-25-2006, 08:52 PM
:lol: why the big debate? Fed is stating a truth, it doesnt mean that Novak isnt talented. Ppl are reading waay too much into this.

DDrago2
09-25-2006, 09:58 PM
Djole is better than Murray and Gasquet :o
pfff

Even if he was, you as a croat would have hard time admiting it :lol:

richie21
03-29-2007, 05:20 PM
Funny thread ,isn t it?? :)
to think Federer said that only 6 months ago........ Djokovic has improved so much since then.
It also shows how much Gasquet has improved since then....:rolleyes:

Federerhingis
03-29-2007, 05:39 PM
Word.

Word three!

Federerhingis
03-29-2007, 05:40 PM
Funny thread ,isn t it?? :)
to think Federer said that only 6 months ago........ Djokovic has improved so much since then.
It also shows how much Gasquet has improved since then....:rolleyes:

It's his mentality that keeps getting in the way. :rolleyes: He'l win big some day I am sure.

Deivid23
03-31-2007, 09:57 AM
Spot on Roger :lol:

MariaV
03-31-2007, 10:15 AM
Nice to see you around, Deivid! :lol: :wavey:

my0118
03-31-2007, 10:18 AM
apparently Djoko has a shorter way to go than Murray and Gasquet :lol:
However, I think Federer didn't see Djoko is his threat unlike Murray or Gasquet.
And still I think Fed wouldn't lose to djoko this year even he's now soaring up.
personally consider Nole's game is not that a threat for Fed.

richie21
03-31-2007, 10:37 AM
Once again,we can note that Richie hasn t been helped by the draws: in a second round ,he faced Canas ,a guy who has beaten Federer twice in a row and who has now made Miami's final.
I'm not denying that at the moment,Gasquet has a longer way to go than the 2 other youngsters but frankly,you have to say he hasn t been helped with the luck in the last two years: horrible draws in the GSs,injuries just when he was playing well,etc...

Sean.J.S.
03-31-2007, 10:47 AM
Let's hope that after Miami, Djokovic will stop being underated compared to Murray and Gasquet. :)

my0118
03-31-2007, 10:58 AM
Once again,we can note that Richie hasn t been helped by the draws: in a second round ,he faced Canas ,a guy who has beaten Federer twice in a row and who has now made Miami's final.
I'm not denying that at the moment,Gasquet has a longer way to go than the 2 other youngsters but frankly,you have to say he hasn t been helped with the luck in the last two years: horrible draws in the GSs,injuries just while he was playing well,etc...

Yeah Gasquet has relatively tough draws in general, but he didn't take his chance even when his draw was not that bad.
If nole had been beaten again to Nadal, I would've considered richard got always tough draws, but he beat nadal. A tough draw is not an excuse.
We'll see tomorrow again how nole handles canas and if he beats him, there's no point in saying his luck of his draw. He should've beaten some top players rather than been said of his draw by fans.
Well, Djokovic is clearly soaring up right now, but we'll see how far he can go because he could either go up or down. A big sudden step-up is not always as promising as we predict at the moment.

richie21
03-31-2007, 11:11 AM
Yeah Gasquet has relatively tough draws in general, but he didn't take his chance even when his draw was not that bad.
If nole had been beaten again to Nadal, I would've considered richard got always tough draws, but he beat nadal. A tough draw is not an excuse.
We'll see tomorrow again how nole handles canas and if he beats him, there's no point in saying his luck of his draw. He should've beaten some top players rather than been said of his draw by fans.
Well, Djokovic is clearly soaring up right now, but we'll see how far he can go because he could either go up or down. A big sudden step-up is not always as promising as we predict at the moment.

Yeah exactly.
It's true that Murray and especially Djokovic are doing really well at the moment and especially much better than the other youngsters(bar Nadal) but i think we should wait a little bit before making hative conclusions about them.

In 2005,while he was only 18,Gasquet had made a MS 1/2 final (beating Federer in the process and being up a set and a break against Nadal on clay),a MS final and finished 12 in the ATP rankings at the end of 2005...........but see where he is now.:o

ezekiel
03-31-2007, 11:17 AM
great prognostication Roger :worship: . Can you tell us Nole will never be #1 and will never beat you so that we can be assured of it? :p

Deivid23
03-31-2007, 01:02 PM
apparently Djoko has a shorter way to go than Murray and Gasquet :lol:
However, I think Federer didn't see Djoko is his threat unlike Murray or Gasquet.
And still I think Fed wouldn't lose to djoko this year even he's now soaring up.
personally consider Nole's game is not that a threat for Fed.

Nole is just too good to lose consistently against Federer. He will score his first win soon enough, hopefully this clay season. You heared it here first ;)

Deivid23
03-31-2007, 01:02 PM
Once again,we can note that Richie hasn t been helped by the draws: in a second round ,he faced Canas ,a guy who has beaten Federer twice in a row and who has now made Miami's final.
I'm not denying that at the moment,Gasquet has a longer way to go than the 2 other youngsters but frankly,you have to say he hasn t been helped with the luck in the last two years: horrible draws in the GSs,injuries just when he was playing well,etc...

:zzz:

Burrow
03-31-2007, 01:06 PM
Nole is just too good to lose consistently against Federer. He will score his first win soon enough, hopefully this clay season. You heared it here first ;)

I never heard it first here

richie21
03-31-2007, 01:10 PM
Nole is just too good to lose consistently against Federer. He will score his first win soon enough, hopefully this clay season. You heared it here first ;)

Djokovic has nothing in his game to trouble Federer

thrust
03-31-2007, 01:42 PM
I think Joko, in the past two weeks, has shown he is at least as good as Murray and Gasquet. What has Gasquet done lately? I also think Joko has plenty of talent to give Roger a hard time. If he wins this week in Miami, he should gain a lot of confidence and feel he can beat anyone.

Snowwy
03-31-2007, 02:36 PM
I love how these threads reappear six months later after whoever its about does well for a couple of weeks.

my0118
03-31-2007, 02:39 PM
Nole is just too good to lose consistently against Federer. He will score his first win soon enough, hopefully this clay season. You heared it here first ;)

Maybe he could, we'll never know. It was just my personal thought. :)

The_Nadal_effect
03-31-2007, 03:11 PM
Nole is just too good to lose consistently against Federer. He will score his first win soon enough, hopefully this clay season. You heared it here first ;)

Nole isn't a bad player at all. But somehow, against Federer, his victories will depend on how lousy Fed is on the given day, not on his personal ability to dishevel FEd. Its actually similar to Rafa who when doubtful of his own abilities, suddenly makes players like Philip Kohlshribber and Xavier Malisse look good. :wavey:

leng jai
03-31-2007, 04:47 PM
Except Malisse is actually good.

sawan66278
04-01-2007, 03:15 AM
I am not that impressed with Djokovic's game to be honest. Misha, Berdych, and Bags (along with Murray and Gasquet) in my mind have more pure "tennis talent". What Novak has shown is that talent alone makes not a winner...Grit, fight, and desire do. One must give credit where credit is due.

brent-o
04-01-2007, 03:53 AM
Compared to Murray, that is a subject we could actually debate. But a longer way to go than Gasquet? C'mon, Roger's just letting his personal issues get in the way of reality. If anything, over the past few months, Gasquet has backslid, and Djokovic has advanced.

mashamaniac
04-01-2007, 03:57 AM
he is that bad but compared to gasquet he's nothing

richie is one of the most promising players on the tour right now...his single handed BH is a special shot in the single handers...maybe just fed and haas have better BHs than him.

richie21
04-01-2007, 12:24 PM
Compared to Murray, that is a subject we could actually debate. But a longer way to go than Gasquet? C'mon, Roger's just letting his personal issues get in the way of reality. If anything, over the past few months, Gasquet has backslid, and Djokovic has advanced.

it will be interesting to see how he'll do against Canas(a player who has beaten Federer twice in a row) today.

I am not that impressed with Djokovic's game to be honest. Misha, Berdych, and Bags (along with Murray and Gasquet) in my mind have more pure "tennis talent". What Novak has shown is that talent alone makes not a winner...Grit, fight, and desire do. One must give credit where credit is due.

i think exactly the same.

rafagirlno1
04-01-2007, 02:18 PM
fed is an absolute jerk !!!
he thinks all younsters are only there so tht they say roger is the best , roger is the greatest of all time and other things praising roger . but when a youngster says something against him like dokovic did he thinks bad about them :mad:
federer can never take defeat like a man , like against rafa at rome he accused him of taking coach's help for a match tht lasted 5 hours.pathetic!!!.
even last year he accused of fatigue when he was thrashed in straight sets by andy murray !!
great examples of why this guy is a great champion but will always go down in history as one of the most sore losers ever :rolleyes: ! !

Sunset of Age
04-01-2007, 02:21 PM
fed is an absolute jerk !!!
he thinks all younsters are only there so tht they say roger is the best , roger is the greatest of all time and other things praising roger . but when a youngster says something against him like dokovic did he thinks bad about them :mad:
federer can never take defeat like a man , like against rafa at rome he accused him of taking coach's help for a match tht lasted 5 hours.pathetic!!!.
even last year he accused of fatigue when he was thrashed in straight sets by andy murray !!
great examples of why this guy is a great champion but will always go down in history as one of the most sore losers ever :rolleyes: ! !

:retard: :tape: :help:
The reincarnation of Sondraj06...

rafagirlno1
04-01-2007, 02:29 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
fed is great , like i said , but he doesn't give credit to up and coming players like in this case his opinion of nole !!

he knows his days at the top are numbered , so deal with it :wavey:

Langers
04-01-2007, 02:31 PM
I think this proves Federer is an idiot.

Djokovic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gasquet.

Langers
04-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Once again,we can note that Richie hasn t been helped by the draws: in a second round ,he faced Canas ,a guy who has beaten Federer twice in a row and who has now made Miami's final.
I'm not denying that at the moment,Gasquet has a longer way to go than the 2 other youngsters but frankly,you have to say he hasn t been helped with the luck in the last two years: horrible draws in the GSs,injuries just when he was playing well,etc...
Mate face it, Richie is just another overrated, mediocre player.

Komodo
04-01-2007, 02:35 PM
He said it 6 month ago.
Maybe Djokovic has gone the long way in this time and that's what we are seeing right now? :)

I don't agree with Federers statement even in September 2006 though.

Eden
04-01-2007, 02:38 PM
I love how these threads reappear six months later after whoever its about does well for a couple of weeks.

GM needs entertainment and it works ;)

Action Jackson
04-01-2007, 03:21 PM
Hahaha.

richie21
04-01-2007, 05:43 PM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
fed is great , like i said , but he doesn't give credit to up and coming players like in this case his opinion of nole !!

he knows his days at the top are numbered , so deal with it :wavey:

it's wrong!
about Gasquet,he said that he liked watching him play as he reminded him a bit of himself (not a bad compliment!).

Mate face it, Richie is just another overrated, mediocre player.

4 titles ,2 MS finals(both lost against Federer) and a win against Federer at only 18 is not bad for an overrated 20 years old player.

Langers
04-01-2007, 05:46 PM
Get back to me when he’s won something significant.

Thanks. :yeah:

mariyella80
04-01-2007, 05:54 PM
NOLE has only played well consecutively for two weeks..lets not jump to conclusions....and lets see what he can do on clay; especially against Nadal

richie21
04-01-2007, 05:59 PM
Get back to me when he’s won something significant.

Thanks. :yeah:

well ,get back to me when Djokovic's won something significant too. :o

Langers
04-01-2007, 06:00 PM
well ,get back to me when Djokovic's won something significant too. :o
Nole > Richie. ;)

JBdV
04-01-2007, 06:04 PM
well ,get back to me when Djokovic's won something significant too. :o

You mean in an hour or two?

vincayou
04-01-2007, 06:34 PM
Djokovic has been nothing short of impressive this year. Murray as well. Gasquet needs to sort up his head, a bit like Berdych but not so bad. Will they change fondamentaly, I think it will be hard.

Clay and grass should be much better for him as few player know to play on it. Always thought he would win his first masters serie in Monaco where he has always very well played. Hope it's this year.

ezekiel
04-01-2007, 06:46 PM
Please, let's not put Nole in the same sentence as Gasquet and Murray , they are not in the same league :devil:

danton
04-01-2007, 07:02 PM
Please, let's not put Nole in the same sentence as Gasquet and Murray , they are not in the same league :devil:

Murray is going to be number three in the atp race on monday. Slanderer:devil:

God knows where Gasquet will be - maybe still looking for his wallet

darnyelb
04-01-2007, 08:44 PM
Federer was still right. The only difference now is Djokovic has actually chosen to travel that longer route. Murray is there too, but he's been clipped by Novak the last times they've met.

CassL
04-01-2007, 08:49 PM
well ,get back to me when Djokovic's won something significant too. :o

He just won the Fifth Slam.:worship:

At least he's not a mental midget like Gasquet.

Flibbertigibbet
04-01-2007, 08:52 PM
well ,get back to me when Djokovic's won something significant too. :o

I guess that time is now. Classic foot-in-mouth case. :p

richie21
04-01-2007, 08:53 PM
First,well done to Djokovic for his win :)

Call me crazy but despite this win,i still think that both Murray and Gasquet will developp into better players than Djokovic in 1 or 2 years.......their games just take much more time to developp than Djokovic's game.

ezekiel
04-01-2007, 08:54 PM
Federer was still right. The only difference now is Djokovic has actually chosen to travel that longer route. Murray is there too, but he's been clipped by Novak the last times they've met.

Let this be said the last time, Gasquet and Murray are not in the same league as Nole right now , not in the power, variation, intelligence or determination and now he has a big title to prove it :wavey:

richie21
04-01-2007, 08:56 PM
Let this be said the last time, Gasquet and Murray are not in the same league as Nole right now , not in the power, variation, intelligence or determination and now he has a big title to prove it :wavey:

on that ,i can only agree with you.

ezekiel
04-01-2007, 08:58 PM
well you can't argue with the titles or their record and the rest I don't care :p

star
04-01-2007, 09:00 PM
GM needs entertainment and it works ;)

Two MS finals in a month is a nice "couple of weeks." Plus he didn't luck into the final. He beat the world #2 player and played the guy who beat the world #1 -- twice.

scarecrows
04-01-2007, 09:02 PM
First,well done to Djokovic for his win :)

Call me crazy but despite this win,i still think that both Murray and Gasquet will developp into better players than Djokovic in 1 or 2 years.......their games just take much more time to developp than Djokovic's game.

you are crazy, no need to call you that

richie21
04-01-2007, 09:02 PM
well you can't argue with the titles or their record and the rest I don't care :p

well,they have both won 4 titles.....though i admit that contrary to Gasquet,Djokovic has now won a big one(a MS) ;)

Deivid23
04-01-2007, 09:04 PM
That was nice weed u were smoking, Roger

thrust
04-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Joko has come a long way since Roger made that remak-lol!! Not only doees he have as smooth natural powerful motion, he is also good at the net with great drop shots. Today, I would bet on him over Gasquet or Murray without hesitation.

CyBorg
04-01-2007, 09:33 PM
Djokovic was a putz 6 months ago. A freaking putz. I can see why Federer said what he said.

richie21
04-01-2007, 09:36 PM
Djokovic was a putz 6 months ago. A freaking putz. I can see why Federer said what he said.

yeah.
i especially remember him being completely trashed by Hewitt in the last US Open......that was a disgraceful performance by him to say the least.

This said,he has gone really far since then.:)

thiaela
04-01-2007, 09:43 PM
I like Gasquet, but I think that his Majesty said is true.
Djokovic is gonna be bigger

Doggy
04-02-2007, 04:53 AM
Nole

euphoria
04-02-2007, 06:44 AM
I'm a fan of both Gasquet and Murray, but mentally, I think they are still kids tennis-wise. It completely floors me to see some of their losses. :rolleyes:

If they break out of that, then we will see. :yeah: But right now Nole is all grown up. ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Good for Djoko.

Federer is starting to fear him.
He only insults those he fears (1-D)

Marek.
04-02-2007, 07:37 AM
Good for Djoko.

Federer is starting to fear him.
He only insults those he fears (1-D)


This interview is from September:rolleyes:

Deivid23
05-08-2007, 10:26 AM
Another title for Nole in Estoril, beating Gasquet in the finals in Richard´s fav surface. I love this thread :D

Action Jackson
05-08-2007, 10:28 AM
Yes, he still has a way to go, it's just shorter than Gasquet.

uglyamerican
05-08-2007, 10:33 AM
Where were they going exactly? How will we know when they get there? In true MTF style this thread does not contain the original quote (that I can find).

scoobs
05-08-2007, 10:53 AM
I think it's safe to say that Djokovic has travelled the longer distance faster than Gasquet or Murray so people should stop bumping this thread like it's meant to prove something.

A word to the wise: When someone says something like this, it's a snapshot of the picture as they see it now - it's not intended to be a remark against which everything is measured for the next 10 years.

Deivid23
05-08-2007, 11:14 AM
I think it's safe to say that Djokovic has travelled the longer distance faster than Gasquet or Murray so people should stop bumping this thread like it's meant to prove something.

There was no longer distance at all in that moment, this just proves what some of us thought that day: Roger was talking out of his arse bc he was upset at Nole´s behaviour and wanted to downplay his abilities ;)

ezekiel
05-08-2007, 11:14 AM
Federer is just playing games . He is the type who will never sincerelly compliment his rivals

ginnylegend
05-08-2007, 11:26 AM
No surprise- Djokovic- classy on and off court, Federer a world class player and a world class wanker.

Allez
05-08-2007, 02:11 PM
Still not clear who will be the first to reach numero uno or win a maiden slam first so Rogi may yet be proved correct though I seriously doubt it. He should stop making all these silly comments. He doesn't come off very well :confused:

Deivid23
05-08-2007, 02:17 PM
Still not clear who will be the first to reach numero uno or win a maiden slam first so Rogi may yet be proved correct

:retard:

richie21
05-08-2007, 02:30 PM
Another title for Nole in Estoril, beating Gasquet in the finals in Richardīs fav surface. I love this thread :D


and what about grass??

Radalek
05-08-2007, 06:55 PM
and what about grass??

Lol...believe me, you don't want Richie to meet Nole on grass...

JBdV
05-08-2007, 07:00 PM
Lol...believe me, you don't want Richie to meet Nole on grass...

Why, what would happen? :rolleyes:

ezekiel
05-08-2007, 07:06 PM
It's a long way to go to become a best player of your generation which is what Nole is aiming for. Andy and Richard are probably content being 10-20, an also rans so their "road" is shorter

ReturnWinner
05-08-2007, 07:13 PM
:tape:
No surprise- Djokovic- classy on and off court, Federer a world class player and a world class wanker.

richie21
05-08-2007, 08:39 PM
Lol...believe me, you don't want Richie to meet Nole on grass...

:lol: :lol:

zimzim
05-08-2007, 09:43 PM
I think it's safe to say that Djokovic has travelled the longer distance faster than Gasquet or Murray so people should stop bumping this thread like it's meant to prove something.

A word to the wise: When someone says something like this, it's a snapshot of the picture as they see it now - it's not intended to be a remark against which everything is measured for the next 10 years. :yeah:

Deivid23
05-08-2007, 10:01 PM
Seriously. As you said, just because Novak managed to pull ahead it doesn't necessarily mean that the distance was shorter or that Roger was necessarily off-base at the time.

Just bc Nole has done more in 4 months than Gasquet in his whole career when he was supposed to have a longer way to go than him it doesnīt mean Roger was talking out of his arse, nice logic, yeah :retard:

richie21
05-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Just bc Nole has done more in 4 months than Gasquet in his whole career when he was supposed to have a longer way to go than him it doesnīt mean Roger was talking out of his arse, nice logic, yeah :retard:

has he beaten Federer???:p

Scotso
05-09-2007, 03:17 AM
has he beaten Federer???:p

Vince Spadea has beaten Federer. So have a lot of players that you've never heard of. So what?

uglyamerican
05-09-2007, 06:17 AM
Vince Spadea has beaten Federer. So have a lot of players that you've never heard of. So what?

Gasquet has something in common with Jan-Michael Gambill. :yeah:

Allez
05-09-2007, 06:32 AM
Gasquet has something in common with Jan-Michael Gambill. :yeah:

And what would that be ? It certainly can't be the talent.

Forehander
05-09-2007, 09:24 AM
Djokovic definitely have a long way to go man in terms of his tennis ability and sportsmanship. Roger foresees something here... Plus Djokovic lol, he's never been on the positive side of Roger's anyway that dude, he abuses injury time-outs; talks shit; Now seriously Roger's got a good point.

Deivid23
05-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Amazing how easy it is to mock the logic when you didn't get the point in the first place. ;)

Itīs really easy to mock the logic when thereīs none :wavey:

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:05 PM
Rock on, Roger :rocker:

bokehlicious
08-12-2007, 10:06 PM
you're such a tool :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
08-12-2007, 10:08 PM
Way to go, bumping up this thread.

This 'thing' between Fed and Djoko has been dealt with long ago, Fed has admitted his mistake more than once since.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:10 PM
Pathetic.

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-12-2007, 10:11 PM
The Ego King eats his words. What a fool this clown #1 is.

Vamos Sparta!

DrJules
08-12-2007, 10:14 PM
The Ego King eats his words. What a fool this clown #1 is.

Vamos Sparta!

It is correct in 1 way; Djokovic beat Federer last out of the 3.

vincayou
08-12-2007, 10:17 PM
He had a (slightly) longer way to go but he went faster. He wasn't alone saying that. I remind Hewitt saying pretty much the same.

World Beater
08-12-2007, 10:18 PM
He had a (slightly) longer way to go but he went faster. He wasn't alone saying that. I remind Hewitt saying pretty much the same.

at wimbledon, hewitt favored bagh over djoko after he lost to djoko

star
08-12-2007, 10:20 PM
Federer said that originally he wasn't impressed by Djokovic. I wonder what he thinks now.

star
08-12-2007, 10:21 PM
has he beaten Federer???:p

Now he has. :) :)

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Pathetic.

you're such a tool :rolleyes:

:haha:

Need a hug?

Jaap
08-12-2007, 10:33 PM
This Djokovic is good.

musefanatic
08-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Federer said that originally he wasn't impressed by Djokovic. I wonder what he thinks now.

Still probably not impressed after his performance today :lol: No i'm sure he's starting to feel that this guy, if he stays injury free, could challenge him a lot next year.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:34 PM
:haha:

Need a hug?
I'm happy for Nole.

I'm sad for you though. You seem to think you're being clever.

Andi-M
08-12-2007, 10:35 PM
The Ego King eats his words. What a fool this clown #1 is.

Vamos Sparta!

:yeah:

Elleee
08-12-2007, 10:36 PM
No one really saw how good Djoko was going to be, and how fast he was improving. It's a huge surprise.

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:36 PM
He had a (slightly) longer way to go but he went faster. He wasn't alone saying that. I remind Hewitt saying pretty much the same.

Bullshit, it was pretty clear he just wanted to bash Nole bc that DC injury timeout, Noleīs talent has always been huge and it made no sense to knock him down like that. It was pretty evident then (at least for most of us), now itīs clear as water even for blind Fedtards

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:37 PM
No one really saw how good Djoko was going to be, and how fast he was improving. It's a huge surprise.

:lol:

This is funny. Nole has been touted here for a long time as the next big thing

richie21
08-12-2007, 10:38 PM
At that time,i agreed with Roger.......that just shows how far Djokovic has gone since then.

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:38 PM
I'm happy for Nole.

I'm sad for you though. You seem to think you're being clever.

Donīt be sad for me, smart wannabe. Iīm happier than u might imagine ;)

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Federer is eating nothing - he acknowledged ages ago that Djokovic had now overtaken Murray and Gasquet and surpassed them. He said this back when Djokovic was clearly behind Murray, Gasquet and I think even Monfils. The situation changed, he acknowledged how far Djokovic has come.

Perhaps Nole should be thanking him for those comments, which spurred him on?

:devil:

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Federer is eating nothing - he acknowledged ages ago that Djokovic had now overtaken Murray and Gasquet and surpassed them. He said this back when Djokovic was clearly behind Murray, Gasquet and I think even Monfils. The situation changed, he acknowledged how far Djokovic has come.


Itīs pretty clear he talked out of his arse in that press conference bc he was upset at Nole :shrug:

richie21
08-12-2007, 10:44 PM
Federer is eating nothing - he acknowledged ages ago that Djokovic had now overtaken Murray and Gasquet and surpassed them. He said this back when Djokovic was clearly behind Murray, Gasquet and I think even Monfils. The situation changed, he acknowledged how far Djokovic has come.

Perhaps Nole should be thanking him for those comments, which spurred him on?

:devil:

i don t think he included Monfils in his list

star
08-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Federer is eating nothing - he acknowledged ages ago that Djokovic had now overtaken Murray and Gasquet and surpassed them. He said this back when Djokovic was clearly behind Murray, Gasquet and I think even Monfils. The situation changed, he acknowledged how far Djokovic has come.

Perhaps Nole should be thanking him for those comments, which spurred him on?

:devil:.
:lol: That Federer! He's so generous. He denigrates a player just to motivate him, and also hands him a Masters Series title to help him along. He's quite the guy. :hatoff:

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:46 PM
.
:lol: That Federer! He's so generous. He denigrates a player just to motivate him, and also hands him a Masters Series title to help him along. He's quite the guy. :hatoff:

:haha: star

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:48 PM
.
:lol: That Federer! He's so generous. He denigrates a player just to motivate him, and also hands him a Masters Series title to help him along. He's quite the guy. :hatoff:
*giggles*

He spotted Nole's potential at age 9 and knew he would need a kick up the ass so he set out to provide him with one

And it worked - Roger is vindicated :angel:

ezekiel
08-12-2007, 10:51 PM
Federer is eating nothing - he acknowledged ages ago that Djokovic had now overtaken Murray and Gasquet and surpassed them. He said this back when Djokovic was clearly behind Murray, Gasquet and I think even Monfils. The situation changed, he acknowledged how far Djokovic has come.

Perhaps Nole should be thanking him for those comments, which spurred him on?

:devil:

He was never really behind those guys, maybe gasquet but he's been around longer. RF just wanted to intimidate Nole and it's allowed in sports but watch when it blow backs into the face, it can be a bitter pill to swallow. I am sure it will be one of the low lights of his career and may haunt him for a while at least with us on the internet .

Mechlan
08-12-2007, 10:52 PM
Itīs pretty clear he talked out of his arse in that press conference bc he was upset at Nole :shrug:

So what? Not everyone can be a champion, even with talent, and Nole had not distinguished himself from the others in terms of results then. Since that time, he has. Move on.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:53 PM
He was never really behind those guys, maybe gasquet but he's been around longer. RF just wanted to intimidate Nole and it's allowed in sports but watch when it blow backs into the face, it can be a bitter pill to swallow. I am sure it will be one of the low lights of his career and may haunt him for a while at least with us on the internet .
Oh yeah I'm sure he's losing mucho sleep :)

*rolls eyes*

There's no reason for him to feel bad, he was right when he said it, things changed long since and yada yada yada - it's only people who don't like Federer who keep dragging all this up as though it has some current significance when it really doesn't.

ezekiel
08-12-2007, 10:53 PM
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:lol: That Federer! He's so generous. He denigrates a player just to motivate him, and also hands him a Masters Series title to help him along. He's quite the guy. :hatoff:


The post of the day :worship: :p

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:55 PM
I realise Djokovic fans are rightfully excited today but that doesn't excuse taking joke posts seriously and responded to them in a serious way :)

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 10:55 PM
he was right when he said it, things changed long since and yada yada yada

He was as right as 2+2 = 5, get a clue

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:56 PM
He was as right as 2+2 = 5, get a clue
He was right when he said it, things have changed since.

You can pretend otherwise all you like :angel:

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-12-2007, 10:57 PM
Scoobsuk's banner is great.

But non Star Wars fans wont get it.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 10:57 PM
Scoobsuk's banner is great.

But non Star Wars fans wont get it.
There are non-Star Wars fans????

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-12-2007, 10:58 PM
He was never really behind those guys, maybe gasquet but he's been around longer. RF just wanted to intimidate Nole and it's allowed in sports but watch when it blow backs into the face, it can be a bitter pill to swallow. I am sure it will be one of the low lights of his career and may haunt him for a while at least with us on the internet .

Fear makes Fed say stupid things.

The only 2 players he has insulted are Rafa & Nole because he was/is afraid that they will beat him.

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-12-2007, 10:58 PM
There are non-Star Wars fans????

Those people are truly lost. :)

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 11:00 PM
He was right when he said it, things have changed since.

You can pretend otherwise all you like :angel:

I prefer making my own opinions by watching/seeing tennis rather than believeing what Federer says blindly like you´re doing here. Those who knew Nole early had clear in their mind he was no where behind Murray and Gasquet, in fact he was better than them by that time (check posts from that date if you want) and time has proven it. I believe Federer didn´t think Nole was poorer than them, he´s too intelligent to think like that, if he really did and this wasn´t just a shit stirring issue, then he´s not as smart as I thought

richie21
08-12-2007, 11:02 PM
I prefer making my own opinions by watching/seeing tennis rather than believeing what Federer says blindly like you´re doing here. Those who knew Nole early had clear in their mind he was no where behind Murray and Gasquet, in fact he was better than them by that time (check posts from that date if you want) and time has proven it. I believe Federer didn´t think Nole was poorer than them, he´s too smart to think like that, if he really did, then he´s not that smart as I thought

At that time,Gasquet had won 4 titles,made 2 MS finals and beat the number 1 while Djokovic had won only 2 titles,made 0 MS finals and still not beat the number 1.......so Federer was not really wrong back then,at least in term of results.
Obviously,things have changed a lot since then ;)

star
08-12-2007, 11:05 PM
Oh yeah I'm sure he's losing mucho sleep :)


There's no reason for him to feel bad, he was right when he said it, things changed long since and yada yada yada - it's only people who don't like Federer who keep dragging all this up as though it has some current significance when it really doesn't.

You're assuming that Federer was even making an objective assessment back when. To me, it was just another example of Federer taking a swipe at a player for reasons only he knows. He does that in a quiet soft spoken way, but he knows what he's doing. Ezekiel probably has it right when he calls it intimidation.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 11:05 PM
I prefer making my own opinions by watching/seeing tennis rather than believeing what Federer says blindly like you´re doing here. Those who knew Nole early had clear in their mind he was no where behind Murray and Gasquet, in fact he was better than them by that time (check posts from that date if you want) and time has proven it. I believe Federer didn´t think Nole was poorer than them, he´s too intelligent to think like that, if he really did and this wasn´t just a shit stirring issue, then he´s not as smart as I thought
You assume far too much. I was there when Djokovic was down in the 100s and coming up - I was watching him slowly slog his way up the rankings - I could see his weakness then and I have seen how he has steadily worked to eliminate or protect them. I didn't take Federer's word for it, chummy, I saw it with my own eyes. I agreed with him at the time. Time has moved on. It's only silly people who keep bumping this up like it proves anything who look dumb here :angel:

World Beater
08-12-2007, 11:06 PM
I prefer making my own opinions by watching/seeing tennis rather than believeing what Federer says blindly like you´re doing here. Those who knew Nole early had clear in their mind he was no where behind Murray and Gasquet, in fact he was better than them by that time (check posts from that date if you want) and time has proven it. I believe Federer didn´t think Nole was poorer than them, he´s too intelligent to think like that, if he really did and this wasn´t just a shit stirring issue, then he´s not as smart as I thought

he seems to think gasquet will be a GREAT PLAYER. maybe he isnt as smart as you think. :lol:

furthermore, federer did an interview with ESPN and reiterated that he wasnt impressed with djoko in monte carlo but he has changed since. Its clear he has a soft spot with gasquet and maybe even murray but you can tell he doesnt like djoko that much even today

star
08-12-2007, 11:07 PM
There are non-Star Wars fans????

Yes! :kiss: :lol:

richie21
08-12-2007, 11:08 PM
he seems to think gasquet will be a GREAT PLAYER. maybe he isnt as smart as you think. :lol:


Well,i'm myself more and more doubting about that but let's say at least that a guy who is able to beat the number 1 at 18 and to make a Wimbledon 1/2 final at 21 has some potential....:o

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-12-2007, 11:09 PM
You're assuming that Federer was even making an objective assessment back when. To me, it was just another example of Federer taking a swipe at a player for reasons only he knows. He does that in a quiet soft spoken way, but he knows what he's doing. Ezekiel probably has it right when he calls it intimidation.

He fears Djokos potential so he tried to crush him in the early stages. Good that the Ego King failed.

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 11:09 PM
You assume far too much. I was there when Djokovic was down in the 100s and coming up - I was watching him slowly slog his way up the rankings - I could see his weakness then and I have seen how he has steadily worked to eliminate or protect them. I didn't take Federer's word for it, chummy, I saw it with my own eyes. I agreed with him at the time. Time has moved on. It's only silly people who keep bumping this up like it proves anything who look dumb here :angel:

I doubt you knew him well if u agreed with that stupid statement from Roger. Iīve seen Nole playing at court when he couldnīt even enter in main draws of GS and Iīve never had seen such an amazing talent since Rafa (you can also make research for that if u feel like). Stop licking Rogerīs gonads and get a clue

scoobs
08-12-2007, 11:11 PM
I doubt you knew him well if u agreed with that stupid statement from Roger. Iīve seen Nole playing at court when he couldnīt even enter in main draws of GS and Iīve never had seen such an amazing talent since Rafa (you can also make research for that if u feel like). Stop licking Rogerīs gonads and get a clue
Well goody for you!

You have a different opinion to me - I really don't care!

Doesn't make you right. I think you're wrong and I'm utterly disinterested if you don't like that fact.

star
08-12-2007, 11:13 PM
Well,i'm myself more and more doubting about that but let's say at least that a guy who is able to beat the number 1 at 18 and to make a Wimbledon 1/2 final at 21 has some potential....:o

Yeah. Richie is a beautiful player. I hope he reaches his potential one day.

Doesn't this just go to show that so much of tennis at the top level is mental. To me, Richie has every thing he needs except for the mentality. I'd love to see him with the self confidence and determination that Djokovic and Nadal have.

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 11:13 PM
Well goody for you!

You have a different opinion to me - I really don't care!

Doesn't make you right. I think you're wrong and I'm utterly disinterested if you don't like that fact.

You were the one who said sth like this:

"Boo, you´re wrong bc Roger said so" :baby:

my0118
08-12-2007, 11:13 PM
he seems to think gasquet will be a GREAT PLAYER. maybe he isnt as smart as you think. :lol:

furthermore, federer did an interview with ESPN and reiterated that he wasnt impressed with djoko in monte carlo but he has changed since. Its clear he has a soft spot with gasquet and maybe even murray but you can tell he doesnt like djoko that much even today

Yeah! I noticed that too.
It's not like French Open when he was beaten by Nadal.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 11:14 PM
I don't think Feds has warmed to Djokovic much - not that that really matters. They can't all be best bosom buds.

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-12-2007, 11:14 PM
Yeah. Richie is a beautiful player. I hope he reaches his potential one day.

Doesn't this just go to show that so much of tennis at the top level is mental. To me, Richie has every thing he needs except for the mentality. I'd love to see him with the self confidence and determination that Djokovic and Nadal have.

Gasquet is a braindead clown. He is no where near Rafa or Djoko.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 11:14 PM
You were the one who said sth like this:

Boo, youīre wrong bc Roger said so :baby:
You're wrong cuz I'm right so ner ner de ner ner :nerner:

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 11:16 PM
You're wrong cuz I'm right so ner ner de ner ner :nerner:

Go and ask Roger if he lets u bang your gf and get lost :baby:

star
08-12-2007, 11:16 PM
furthermore, federer did an interview with ESPN and reiterated that he wasnt impressed with djoko in monte carlo but he has changed since. Its clear he has a soft spot with gasquet and maybe even murray but you can tell he doesnt like djoko that much even today

hehehehe :lol: It seems that Nadal doesn't care for Djoko too much either from what I've heard.

scoobs
08-12-2007, 11:17 PM
Go and ask Roger if he lets u bang your gf and get lost :baby:
My girlfriend is a he - I'm a raving poofter you see :D

no name face
08-12-2007, 11:17 PM
He fears Djokos potential so he tried to crush him in the early stages. Good that the Ego King failed.

i sort of agree with this. he compliments nadal and djokovic much less than say, gasquet. i think he views the former two as more of a threat to his supremacy and with just cause. i'd do the same thing federer does, if i was in his shoes...you can't rain compliments on your biggest threats.

DDrago2
08-12-2007, 11:17 PM
Similar as Nadal Djokovic plays for the kill and not for the game, Fed doesn't like that breed

scoobs
08-12-2007, 11:18 PM
i sort of agree with this. he compliments nadal and djokovic much less than say, gasquet. i think he views the former two as more of a threat to his supremacy and with just cause. i'd do the same thing federer does, if i was in his shoes...you can't rain compliments on your biggest threats.
I don't think it's quite as mercenary as that - I think he just prefer's Gasquet's brand of tennis, aesthetically.

star
08-12-2007, 11:19 PM
Gasquet is a braindead clown. He is no where near Rafa or Djoko.

Yes, but that's because of his mind and not his talent. I've seen him play some brillian tennis, but somehow there's that little bit lacking. You know Federer had that problem early in his career too, but he managed to overcome it. He said all the time that his problem was that he lacked self belief. (selbstvertrauen)

Deivid23
08-12-2007, 11:19 PM
My girlfriend is a he - I'm a raving poofter you see :D

Youīre truly a gem :lol: