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Buyin' Food and singing Hey Jude (Andy Kicking Butt in Memphis!)

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Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 03:40 PM
The Draw was released.

Andy faces tough first-round - Grandpa Toddy.

Could meet Haas, Enqvist, Popp, Spadea in QF. Gambill, Vahaly, Dent, Melzer also in his half

draw at www.krogerstjude.com

Funny thread title, anyone? I tried to think of something to do with supermarkets but first thing in the morning isn't my creative time.


Oh and of course, Andy has finalist points to defend here from last year, so (as Andy would say), it would be super-nice for him to do well :)

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 04:09 PM
Andy maybe playing doubles? From Vahaly's website:

"I actually played doubles last week with Hyung-Taik Lee, which was a cool experience. He doesnt speak any english so we could not communicate at all on the court. Needless to say it was a bit awkward at times and we couldn't come up with any kind of strategy. But we had fun and ended up losing in the second round. I'm trying to convince Andy to play doubles with me next week but he's going to see how he feels."

star
02-14-2004, 04:10 PM
Hey Jude!

:)

Let him into your heart.

star
02-14-2004, 04:21 PM
Hey Jude, don't be a fool
Take a chap'on and make him better
The minute you let him into your heart
Then you can start to make it better

Hey Jude, don't let me down
Take strong serve and make it better
The minute you let him into your heart
Then you can start to see it better

Let it out and let in
Hey Jude begin
Loving Andy even so much better
Don't you know that it's a fool
Who plays it cool
Pretending they can't love him better

Hey Jude, don't let me down
Take a backhand and make it better
The minute you started with Brad Gilbert
Then you started to make it better

Let it out and let in
Hey Jude begin
To making your forehand a little better
Don't you know that it's a fool
Who plays it cool
To thinking he is not a champion.

Hey Jude, don't let me down
Take a mad serve and make it better
The minute you let him into your heart
Then you can start to make it better

Na na na na na.....

Havok
02-14-2004, 06:28 PM
bunk, Andy's got finalist points to defend, but his semis from Basel will only alow him to drop like 65 ranking points ranking points or so. and if Andy makes it to the finals of the Siebel Open (which he will;) ) then that will diminish the amount of points to fall off even more. opening up vs Todd Martin will be somewhat tough, but Todd hasn't played since he lost his 3rd round match at the AO to Safin. Roddick seems in full confidence, and he'll win the match. it'll be a fairly tight match i think, but he'll come out of it the winner. you can take out Haas because he's coming back from a very long injury, Popp i dont think will make it. i'll ride Enqvist to the quarters, and he's way too errors prone to beat Andy. the SF would be one of these 3:Dent, Gambill, Kiefer. at least thats what i think. Dent is playing like crap, good enough to make it to the semis, but not to beat Andy. same thing goes for Kiefer. Gambill will be tired from the Siebel Open i think, and will lose to Dent right off the bat. and i'll go out on a limb and say Ferreira will make the finals. Andy should make the semis no problem(except for the tight win over Todd). then it all depends on if he's tired or not from the last week. he shouldn't be, so he's looking good to win this event:banana:

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 06:53 PM
Interesting analyses, Naldo. Oh I know it's not a HUGE deal or a huge amount of points or whatever, but it'd be nice. As Tennis Fool said in the tourney forum, it looks like Memphis is sort of becoming "Andy's Event" like San Jose is Andre's. I'd love that :)

oh but Todd has played.. in San Jose, Moodie beat him in straights in the first round.

It's a tough draw for Andy. Almost everyone he's likely to face has beaten him. He's 2-1 against Todd but both his wins are on clay and Todd's was last year at on hard. He's 1-1 with Enqvist but Enqvist's win was in October 2001 and was a very tight match. Andy beat him 4 and 4 last year at IW.

And um..... he's actually 0-2 against Gambill :eek:

But nah Andy will be fine :)

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 07:02 PM
OMG, that title is so CORNY!!!

which is of course why I like it! ;)

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 07:03 PM
LOLLLL I aim to amuse :)

star
02-14-2004, 07:12 PM
And um..... he's actually 0-2 against Gambill :eek:



Yeah, but when was the last time they played?

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 07:22 PM
2002 LA

Havok
02-14-2004, 08:34 PM
yup 2002 lLA, and you guessed it there were a bunch of shit calls and Andy let that get to him. Andy's gotten MUCH better while gambill has slipped into the deep end. and Gambill opens up against Dent. all the players he will face in Memphis have beaten him, but if you take a look at when and where they beat him, things will be clearer as to why Andy lost. and his loss vs Todd, Andy was playing like crap ever since he beat Grosjena in the 3rd round of IW, so that loss isn't too much of a shocker;)

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 08:46 PM
lol Naldo you have an explanation for everything huh!??

Havok
02-14-2004, 10:24 PM
nah, but these losses you really gotta look at them, and there's an explanation for them all by itself;)

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 10:39 PM
LOL Ok yes sir

J. Corwin
02-15-2004, 01:24 AM
Andy's got a much tougher draw at Memphis than at San Jose, but the only match to perhaps worry about is his opener against Todd. He should be fine otherwise. :)

I'm likin this back to back tournament dealy with Andy. ;)

Deboogle!.
02-16-2004, 01:13 AM
Andy's not playing doubles after all. Guess Brian wasn't convincing enough ;) He's playing with Tursunov, if anyone cares. Mardy and James are playing again and the Bryans are also playing!

MisterQ
02-16-2004, 01:16 AM
I hope Tommy Haas can get some wins in this tournament. He's such a good player, it will add to the decadent array we already have. :)

Deboogle!.
02-16-2004, 01:21 AM
As long as he doesn't get past the QF :devil:

MisterQ
02-16-2004, 01:23 AM
As long as he doesn't get past the QF :devil:

oh, well yes, of course! :lol: ;)

tangerine_dream
02-16-2004, 02:56 AM
I like Tommy Haas too and would love to see him back in his game. :bounce:

J. Corwin
02-16-2004, 08:09 AM
A couple wins is good enough for Tommy at this point. ;)

star
02-17-2004, 12:56 PM
Haas got Popped.

Sorrreeeeeeeeeeeeee

I just had to say that. :)

Deboogle!.
02-17-2004, 03:04 PM
LOL star, I'm glad you did it was nice to wake up to a joke :)

J. Corwin
02-17-2004, 10:08 PM
poor Tommy

Deboogle!.
02-18-2004, 01:01 AM
Andy's 1st round match against Grandpa Toddy is tomorrw at 6:30pm (Memphis is in CT... I love this when the play is in my time zone... makes it a lot easier! LOL!)

Deboogle!.
02-18-2004, 02:15 AM
Andy did a press conference today (you know you're big when you do a press conference BEFORE your matches ;))

Clip 1 (http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick1_memphis.wma) Clip 2 (http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick2_memphis.wma)

Warning: Clip 1 contains reporter stupidity :p

J. Corwin
02-18-2004, 03:05 AM
I heard both clips. How does clip 2 contain stupidity? I did hear a loud BEEP though, lol.

J. Corwin
02-18-2004, 03:06 AM
And weuheu for the match being 6:30CT. That means it's gonna be 4:30 here and I'll be back from my last class and right in time to settle down and follow the scores! yay!

Deboogle!.
02-18-2004, 03:12 AM
oops my bad clip 1 contains stupidity lol

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:05 AM
Roddick leads 4-3, on serve. Andy had to save 4 break points already:eek: he was unable to do anything on Todd's serve the 1st 2 times Todd served, but he did have a bp in his 3rd service game. go Andy:banana:

star
02-19-2004, 01:27 AM
And now Todd looks to have the break. :(

star
02-19-2004, 01:27 AM
But Andy looking to break back to save the set.

Todd down 15-30

star
02-19-2004, 01:28 AM
Two break points for Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woohoo:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:28 AM
I was supposed to have movie night for class but the TA never showed up so I just got back.

COME ON ANDY!!!!!!!!!

J. Corwin
02-19-2004, 01:30 AM
He broke back! nice

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:30 AM
of course RIGHT when I come back a tiebreaker!!! KILL ME NOW!

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:30 AM
tie breakers:rocker2: see bunk, tie breakers LOVE you

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:31 AM
Not funny Naldo :bigcry:

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:31 AM
3-0 for Andy in the tie-breaker. 2 mini breaks:banana:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:32 AM
ANDY don't give back the babies!!!!!!

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:32 AM
Ah Todd, what a marvellous time to choke... remind me never to bet money on you in tight situations. Not that anyone would anyway after the Wimbledon 96 semi.

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:32 AM
aww bunk, i really do hope you come around on your views of tie-breakers. ESPECIALLY when Andy's one of the best tie-breaker players ever

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:32 AM
lol. so Todd is known to be a fighter, and a choker??:lol:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:33 AM
I'm sorry Naldo, I just get nervous lol

Come on Andy!!!!!!!

awww come on Sjengster this is Andy's board can't we cheer for him here? lol

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:33 AM
ahh but Sjeng does it in al good fun;)
5-1 Andy:dance:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:34 AM
I'd be much better off watching Film Noir right now :scared:

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:34 AM
but thats the whole part of it bunk, so be so tense and nervous:rocker2:

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:35 AM
Of course Naldo, hence his wins in five sets from behind and his losses in five sets when leading. That choke against Washington was just ridiculous.

Naturally YOU can cheer for him bunk, but since you lot are the only ones following the scores of this match I thought I would exercise my democratic right to cheer for the other guy. Not that it's worked anyway, mind.

star
02-19-2004, 01:35 AM
Ah Todd, what a marvellous time to choke... remind me never to bet money on you in tight situations. Not that anyone would anyway after the Wimbledon 96 semi.

Sjengy... love you to bits, but really, shouldn't you let us cheer happily for Andy here. It's not like there isn't another place for you to post your disappointments. :)

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:35 AM
but I don't like the way it feels Naldo lol I told you I get more nervous about stuff like this than in my own life lol

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:35 AM
Ok now come on Andy take this in 2!!!!!!!!!!!

star
02-19-2004, 01:36 AM
Of course Naldo, hence his wins in five sets from behind and his losses in five sets when leading. That choke against Washington was just ridiculous.

Naturally YOU can cheer for him bunk, but since you lot are the only ones following the scores of this match I thought I would exercise my democratic right to cheer for the other guy. Not that it's worked anyway, mind.

It's rather rude of you to kick us out of our place though isn't it. I guess you can exercise your "democratic" right to be rude. :lol:

You know, Bunk... we can go to AIM or to RO if you'd rather.

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:36 AM
Sjengy... love you to bits, but really, shouldn't you let us cheer happily for Andy here. It's not like there isn't another place for you to post your disappointments. :)

As I told bunk, I am letting you cheer happily for him. And there may be another place to post my disappointments, but there ain't no-one around there at the moment. I just want to be heard! ;)

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:36 AM
lol true, we could... I'm on AIM, if everyone gets on we can start a chat

J. Corwin
02-19-2004, 01:36 AM
nice lil comeback by Andy

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:37 AM
It's rather rude of you to kick us out of our place though isn't it.

You know, Bunk... we can go to AIM or to RO if you'd rather.

:confused: Last time I saw, I wasn't kicking you out of anything.

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:38 AM
When I got back it was Todd serving at 6-5 0-30... how did Andy get broken? I mean it wasn't at love or anything I hope?

star
02-19-2004, 01:38 AM
As I told bunk, I am letting you cheer happily for him. And there may be another place to post my disappointments, but there ain't no-one around there at the moment. I just want to be heard! ;)



:) And if we all leave you here alone.......... then........ to bad. :)

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:39 AM
Since when does Todd serve so many aces?

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:39 AM
hey i think i watched film noir in my english class 2 semesters ago;) was afun class, we read mystery books and stuff like that, and watched a bunch of film noir movies:banana:
and Andy takes the 1st set 7-6(2):rocker2: still undefeated in tie-breakers:yeah: and good on him for breaking Todd when he served for the first set

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:39 AM
Naldo get on AIM :)

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:41 AM
:) And if we all leave you here alone.......... then........ to bad. :)

Wherever you go, wherever you flee, I will pursue you to the ends of time. Or until I get bored and go to bed, of course, it's rather late over here. ;)

Havok
02-19-2004, 01:42 AM
i did bunk, but i don't think i have you on, you know my name on aim???

star
02-19-2004, 01:44 AM
too bad. We've already gone, and you can't catch us. :nerner:

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:45 AM
Blimey, it's a ghost forum. 2-0 Martin. I'll be up tomorrow morning and see that he lost in two tiebreakers.

This is a rather stupid question, considering that you obviously want to get away from me, but what exactly is AIM? I mean, it's my AIM to get my work finished on time tomorrow, but it may not necessarily happen. OK, that was poor...

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:46 AM
too bad. We've already gone, and you can't catch us. :nerner:

You have to return here sometime. :devil:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 01:46 AM
it's an instant messenging program put out by AOL

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 01:49 AM
Ah right, I getcha. Anyway, enjoy yourselves, even though I wasn't planning on hounding you for very long. Re: Martin's aces, he normally hits over ten during a three-setter, this is an indoor court, and this is Roddick returning after all. Now that's not a jibe, just an observation.

WyveN
02-19-2004, 01:56 AM
wow.......go gramps! 5-0 :lol:

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 01:57 AM
TODD'S going for the bagel!!! :woohoo:

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 02:00 AM
OK, now he's going for the breadstick! :lol:

Havok
02-19-2004, 02:01 AM
no bagel this time:p 1-5 though

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 02:05 AM
Darn, and he had the bagel within sight... it would have been Roddick's second ever, and doubly appopriate given that the first came in this very tournament three years ago at the hands of Haas after he'd won the first set in a tiebreak... sheesh Todd, can you actually close out a set easily?

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 02:08 AM
A set all, 7-6, 1-6. I bet Roddick wins the third 7-5 after Martin led 5-3.

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 02:08 AM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!
http://www.koit.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/title2.gif

Havok
02-19-2004, 02:09 AM
Q :haha::haha::haha: dunno Sjeng, Andy's having heaps of trouble with his serve now. anyways GO ANDY:banana:

star
02-19-2004, 02:09 AM
See Sjengster........ you and Wyver could be on the Tournament cheering thread keeping each other happy all by yourselves....

star
02-19-2004, 02:10 AM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!
http://www.koit.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/title2.gif

NEway........ Q, if you are so inclined, please join us on AIM.

star
02-19-2004, 02:11 AM
Naldo and Proph and Bunk are there too in some sort of chat room Deb has set up

WyveN
02-19-2004, 02:15 AM
See Sjengster........ you and Wyver could be on the Tournament cheering thread keeping each other happy all by yourselves....

oh please, it is not like Sjeng and I are here posting profanities about Roddick.

WyveN
02-19-2004, 02:16 AM
This escape from the evil Roddick haters is very amusing

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 02:16 AM
thanks for the offer, Star, but I don't have AIM!

J. Corwin
02-19-2004, 02:23 AM
I'd LOVE to join, but I have too much work to do so I can deal without the extra distraction. :)

tangerine_dream
02-19-2004, 02:41 AM
So I got home and decided to check the Andy board to see what the news was against his match with Martin and I see a crazy number like "78 people are viewing this forum" before I enter.

So I think, hmm, either Andy's playing reallyreally well or, more likely, he's playing very badly and all the haters are gleefully lurking and posting on the board to predictably gloat (kind of like what happened when Safin beat Andy at AO and suddenly there was a deluge of safinsluts in here).

Sure enough who do I see here but some of Andy's most diligent haters! (who shall remain nameless) whereas some of my Andy pals smartly took refuge in AIM, which is exactly where I'm going now. :devil:

You all have a good time hating on Andy. We'll be back later. :angel:

Havok
02-19-2004, 02:49 AM
oh please, it is not like Sjeng and I are here posting profanities about Roddick.
that's true, at least you people have some dignity;)

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 03:04 AM
good fight Todd.

Havok
02-19-2004, 03:06 AM
:woohoo: just come back right when the match finished. this is a HUGE win for Andy. winning when his serve went awol, after losing the 2nd set 6-1, and beating Todd, a player who causes HUGE problems to Andy:yeah:

heya
02-19-2004, 03:10 AM
I love Andy's ljubicic haircut.

heya
02-19-2004, 03:11 AM
Andy's just another top 40 player without his serve, right? Like all the other top 40 players without their serve?

Havok
02-19-2004, 03:13 AM
I love Andy's ljubicic haircut.
:haha::haha: now all he needs are those extremely tight/short shorts:lol:
and heya, where have you been. good to see you back:hug:

star
02-19-2004, 03:16 AM
that's true, at least you people have some dignity;)


scant

star
02-19-2004, 03:16 AM
Heya!!!!

:hug:

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 03:21 AM
Andy's just another top 40 player without his serve, right? Like all the other top 40 players without their serve?

Apparently, considering No. 60 just took him to 7-5 in the third and won the second set 6-1.

star
02-19-2004, 03:23 AM
But where would he have been without his serve? ;)

J. Corwin
02-19-2004, 03:25 AM
Well if you take away the best weapon from any player, their performance ranking would be considerably lower.

heya
02-19-2004, 03:28 AM
:woohoo: :hugs: *wipes sweat away *spent 2 hrs at the DMV, computer's fan died, rain cats and dogs!
But, I have the Siebel Open semis/final on tape!!

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 03:52 AM
glad to see you back heya :hug: :)

tangerine_dream
02-19-2004, 04:23 AM
Wow, I'm impressed!

Andy was playing soooo bad (1-6 in the second set? :eek: *rubs eyes*) Just look at it: his playing just flat-out sucked. His returns sucked. All his numbers sucked. Martin out-aced him and his total points won were higher than Andy's. In fact, all of Martin's numbers were better than Andy's. On paper, he should have won, right? But he didn't. Andy won. 'splain how that happens? Freakin' Faaan-tastic! :banana:

See, that's the fabric that true champions are made of: managing to win when you're not at your best. :D

You're getting the hang of it, Andy. Nice job. :worship:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 04:35 AM
I was hoping they'd put up some more scintillating sound clips but nope

Clip 1 (http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick1_memphis2.wma)

Clip 2 (http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick2_memphis2.wma)

Clip 3 (http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick3_memphis2.wma)

WyveN
02-19-2004, 04:40 AM
Andy's just another top 40 player without his serve, right?

Pretty much, after all Toddy is ranked #60

WyveN
02-19-2004, 04:44 AM
So I got home and decided to check the Andy board to see what the news was against his match with Martin and I see a crazy number like "78 people are viewing this forum" before I enter.
:

I saw 3 people

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 05:38 AM
Roddick Wins Thriller Against Martin
atptennis.com

Top seed Andy Roddick survived a three-set battle against two-time Memphis champion Todd Martin to reach the second round of the Kroger St. Jude. Roddick, the 2002 winner who arrived in Memphis following his victory in San Jose last week, served 17 aces en route to a 7-6(2), 1-6, 7-5 in 2 hours, 20 minutes.

"I was definitely trying to get used to the new conditions," said Roddick. "I thought Todd definitely played better in the first two sets. I was just trying to hang on there in the first set. I thought I did play a lot better in the third set but still bailed myself out a couple of times and was able to pull it out somehow."

Roddick came into the match leading their head-to-head series 2-1, although it was Martin who won their last encounter at the NASDAQ-100 Open in Miami last year. As the first set seemed to be heading into the tie-break, Roddick's run of 51 consecutive service holds dating back to the seventh game of his first round in San Jose came to an abrupt end at 5-5 as he made three forehand errors to hand Martin the break.

But Martin, 12 years Roddick's senior at 33, failed to capitalize on his opportunity as he served for the set, double faulting on the first point before a casual forehand volley gave Roddick just enough time to make a forehand pass. It was just the opening Roddick needed as he immediately broke back to force a tie-break, where he won six of the first seven points before taking it 7-2 with an ace.

The second set was all Martin, who fired seven of his 20 aces and broke Roddick for the second and third time to open up a 5-0 lead. He also had two set points to take the set 6-0 before Roddick prevented the bagel. It was only a temporary delay however as Martin eventually closed it out on his fifth set point and had more break points in the opening game of the final set.

Roddick saved those and the set went with serve until Martin came out at 5-6 to force another tie-break. At 30-30, a forehand by Martin sailed long to give Roddick match point, which he converted as Martin made another forehand error.

Physically Strong

After the grueling match, Roddick promised he would be back to full fitness against Sebastien de Chaunac in the second round. "I felt physically strong at the end of it, I feel fine now, there won't be any ill effects for tomorrow," said Roddick. "It might be good to get my feet wet here in Memphis, and now I've totally forgotten about last week [in San Jose] and I'm just excited to be through."

Always gracious in defeat, the four-time finalist Martin said: "I think I was a bit fortunate to play Andy tonight and not later in the week, minus the fact I don't have much to show for it. It was a tough adjustment, it's a different court, a different ball from last week, and I think that, coupled with some good play by me, rattled him a little bit. But when it comes down to it, there's a fella on the other side of the net that's pretty confident when the going gets tough.

"I feel like I returned his serve okay. I didn't return it too well on the clay courts when we played the first two times, but on the indoor courts I felt I returned it really well. I think once we get into a ground stroke rally and keep enough balls away from his forehand then I've at least got a shot. I broke him three times and had a number of games I lost when having break point and that's with winning 38 percent of his service points, so I can only imagine what would have happened if I'd have won a few more here and there. I gave myself more chances against Andy than I have against anyone else I've played this year."

Nishy
02-19-2004, 06:22 AM
>See, that's the fabric that true champions are made of: managing to win when you're not at your best.

>You're getting the hang of it, Andy. Nice job.

Yes, tangerine_dream. Good point.
Congrats Andy.

It seems he always have the trouble against vetelan player like Martin, Agassi, Henman and Bjorkman.

star
02-19-2004, 02:17 PM
So I got home and decided to check the Andy board to see what the news was against his match with Martin and I see a crazy number like "78 people are viewing this forum" before I enter.



Those visitor numbers are hysterical! :D

star
02-19-2004, 02:18 PM
Great article. Thanks a bunch, Deb. :kiss:

Sjengster
02-19-2004, 02:31 PM
So I got home and decided to check the Andy board to see what the news was against his match with Martin and I see a crazy number like "78 people are viewing this forum" before I enter.

So I think, hmm, either Andy's playing reallyreally well or, more likely, he's playing very badly and all the haters are gleefully lurking and posting on the board to predictably gloat (kind of like what happened when Safin beat Andy at AO and suddenly there was a deluge of safinsluts in here).

Sure enough who do I see here but some of Andy's most diligent haters! (who shall remain nameless) whereas some of my Andy pals smartly took refuge in AIM, which is exactly where I'm going now. :devil:

You all have a good time hating on Andy. We'll be back later. :angel:

I'm a diligent hater, aren't I? Why, my every waking hour on here is spent posting mindless, hate-filled anti-Roddick rhetoric. BTW, I arrived here at about 4-3 in the first set, when he wasn't in any kind of trouble. It's safe to say, though, that a match with Todd Martin is more likely to attract my attention than one with the ever-dangerous Sebastien de Chaunac like tonight.

Actually, your post sounds remarkably similar to certain Williams fans on WTAWorld. Next it'll be "Andy is going to prove the haters wrong", "An American dominating a European-centric sport, you can't handle it," etc.

star
02-19-2004, 02:38 PM
Tennis is a European-centric sport?

Ok. Never thought of it that way myself.

And who is dominating? I thought Federer was the dominant player right now.

I understand your taking offense to Tangy labeling you a "hater" (actually I don't think either you or Wyver are "haters") and maybe I would too. But, really if you come into a Andy forum cheering thread, aren't you letting yourself in for some slagging? Everyone knows you are cheering for Andy to lose against just about anybody he plays. So, you can understand that people don't think you are here in a positive spirit.

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 03:12 PM
Couple more articles from the Memphis paper:
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Two-hour duel serves thrills
Roddick finally bests Martin

By Phil Stukenborg
Memphis Commercial Appeal
February 19, 2004

The 5,000-plus who crammed into The Racquet Club's Stadium Court Wednesday night got a bargain.

They paid first-round ticket prices for what easily could have qualified as Sunday's championship singles match. Top seed Andy Roddick, the world's second-ranked player, and two-time Memphis champion Todd Martin, a deceiving No. 60, battled for more than two hours, trading blistering groundstrokes, smoldering returns and aces of varying speeds before Roddick finally emerged with a 7-6 (2), 1-6, 7-5 victory.

The packed house - which included Grizzlies basketball players Shane Battier and Pau Gasol - was so appreciative that it gave Roddick and Martin a resounding ovation late in the final set as Martin was preparing to serve at 4-5.

Those marveling at the level of play included more than the Memphis fans. It included veteran observers, too.

''That's the toughest first-round match I've done in years,'' said chair umpire Norm Chryst.

Chryst correctly overruled a no-call that set up match point and a break point for Roddick. With Martin serving at 30-all, Martin hit a forehand that sailed just beyond the baseline. When no call was made, Chryst promptly called it out. Martin didn't argue.

On match point, Martin ended a long, furious rally by netting a forehand, which allowed Roddick to move into today's second round, where he'll play qualifier Sebastien De Chaunac, a former Ole Miss player.

''First-rounds are always tough, especially when you play someone of Todd's caliber,'' Roddick said. ''Even though I think I could have played better throughout the match, it might prove to be good for me the rest of the tournament . . . I was able to just hang around and pull it off somehow.''

Martin felt he matched Roddick, 21, point for point, and the statistics confirmed it. Martin won 111 (or 50 percent) of the 220 points played. Roddick won 109 points.

''(Roddick) is very good, a very good athlete who is explosive and can get on substantial rolls when he gets the momentum,'' Martin said. ''I felt like it was a good match and we let (the crowd) be entertained.''

Despite Roddick's propensity for serving in the 140-mph range, Martin, whose offerings averaged about 115 mph, had more aces (20) than Roddick, who finished with 17. And it was Martin's ability to cleverly vary the pace and direction of his serves that created problems for Roddick.

''I thought he served well,'' Roddick said. ''He was spot-serving really well. I couldn't really get a clean hit on a bunch of them. And I thought he was picking up his half-volleys really well. A bunch of times I was able to get my return down and he was able to pick it up and do something with it. He played a solid match.''

Martin, Roddick said, was not a typical first-round opponent, which created such a festive, Sunday singles-final atmosphere. It also led to bouts of frustration for Roddick, who busted his racket after being broken early in the second set.

''Todd's sneaky,'' Roddick, said. ''If he played a full schedule and played every week he'd be up there (in the rankings). You see him in the (Grand) Slams, he's consistently advancing to the fourth round and beyond.

"Obviously, he is a family man now, so maybe he takes some weeks off. So I don't know many people who are happy to see Todd Martin as a first-round opponent."

Martin, 33, said what disappointed him most was that at this stage in his career he's getting ''fewer and fewer opportunities'' to pull off upsets of top 10 players.

''That's the most frustrating part,'' said Martin, making his 11th appearance in Memphis. ''I still feel I can compete with the best in the world, but it's time to show a little fruit.''

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 03:13 PM
This is just sort of a funny editorial:
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Whole lotta yelling going on at KSJ
By Geoff Calkins
Memphis Commercial Appeal
February 19, 2004

Andy Roddick prepared to serve when he saw something in the stands, orange and flapping.

He stopped.

Waited.

Then finally asked a question.

"Can you put down that thing you're waving?"

In the stands, Morgan Harriman wondered why everyone was looking at her.

Harriman is pregnant, just four weeks from her due date. She was hot. She took her Tennessee Volunteer seat cushion and waved it to create a breeze.

Until she heard Roddick, hollering.

"Yes, I was embarrassed," she said.

Morgan's husband, Brad, put his hands on her tummy by way of explanation.

"Oh," Roddick yelled. "Sorry!"

And so it ended happily. The flapping and the tennis, too.

Roddick defeated Todd Martin 7-6 (2), 1-6, 7-5, in a Wednesday evening match worthy of a Sunday.

If anyone left unhappy, it could have only been the person stuck sitting behind Shane Battier and Pau Gasol.

The two Grizzlies were among the 5,000 or so who showed up to watch. The tennis was good enough to produce actual screaming.

Two kinds!

There was the screaming of young Roddick fans upon seeing their hero.

And there was the screaming of Paul Mills upon getting nailed by a Roddick serve on his thigh.

OK, it's possible Mills didn't really scream. But Roddick has uncorked a 150 miles-per-hour serve before. The one that hit Mills was doing 128.

"I was hit by a Roddick serve last year," said Jackie Mills, Paul's wife. "So I ducked just in time."

That depends on your perspective, of course.

Paul?

"Yes, it hurt a little bit," he said.

All this power didn't do Roddick as much good as you might think, as Martin cranked out more aces, 20 to 17. When Roddick was broken in the second set, he smashed his racquet on the ground.

Which created something of a dilemma for the fans. Who to pull for, anyway?

Martin is one of the good guys. He's 33, a former champion, and pure class.

But Roddick, well, he's hosted "Saturday Night Live." He's a star. He can cause grown women to swoon.

Like Billie Peltz, 35, whose family owns Corky's. Roddick was in the restaurant the other day. If it weren't for the health department and stuff, Peltz might never again wash her hands.

"Oh my God," she said. "I live for him."

The good news is that Peltz can keep on living, thanks to Roddick's gutty play in the final set. The guy is a nearly Jimboesque competitor. That and the serve are what sets him apart.

Martin finally sailed a forehand long to set up match point. The players launched into one last fierce rally before Martin dumped a forehand in the net.

The crowd cheered. For both players. Even Paul Mills, Roddick's victim, figured the serve was worth the show.

But did it leave a bruise?

Mills laughed.

"I'll check," he said, "when I get home."

tangerine_dream
02-19-2004, 03:37 PM
But Roddick, well, he's hosted "Saturday Night Live." He's a star. He can cause grown women to swoon.

LOL. Glad I'm not the only one. ;)

And these people getting nailed by Andy's serve....they should start a support group or something. Start brining signs to matches announcing their pain: "Nailed by the Roddick Serve: Feb. 8, 2002". Heh. :banana:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 04:03 PM
Here's how ESPN described the match

Commentator: "Andy Roddick in Memphis against Todd Martin. Roddick was in control from start to finish. Well there was a tiebreaker in the first but he got through that, and he lost the second set 6-1, but in the end he prevailed."
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DEAD :haha:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 04:12 PM
oops almost forgot, a couple pics from the Memphis paper

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 04:12 PM
and another

tangerine_dream
02-19-2004, 04:38 PM
I like that second pic.

After the Fish-Agassi incident, I'm seeing fist pumps in a whole new way! :lol:

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 04:56 PM
Speaking of Fish-Agassi, did you know that one of the great fish scientists was the ichthylogist Louis Agassiz ?

There's a catfish named after him.

http://www.aquazoo.co.uk/g/fish/fish_Corydoras_Agassizi.jpg
Corydoras agassizi

Havok
02-19-2004, 05:47 PM
the hair is growing back:banana:

Mr. Man
02-19-2004, 06:07 PM
:lol: MisterQ

Win the title Andy! :banana:

tangerine_dream
02-19-2004, 06:14 PM
:haha: MrQ! Where do you come up with this stuff?

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 06:43 PM
LMGDFAO Q!!!!!

and interesting tangy, I guess I kinda took that incident as a one-time type thing.

MisterQ
02-19-2004, 07:19 PM
:haha: MrQ! Where do you come up with this stuff?

I remember useless information. And I used to have an aquarium. ;)

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 08:57 PM
Another one bites the dust

http://images2.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/2260305.jpg

Havok
02-19-2004, 09:20 PM
:eek: if you look at that last pic bunk posted really fast, it seems as though Andy's bending over to pull down his shorts:haha:

Deboogle!.
02-19-2004, 09:49 PM
LMFAO That's what I thought at first actually but then I read the caption which was about smashing the rackets lol

andyroxmysox12191
02-19-2004, 10:26 PM
:lol: i thought the same thing and i can still look at it and see him doing that

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 02:43 AM
Andy's being good to us nervous folk tonight.

1st set 6-3 (with 2 breaks so he serves to open the second)

Havok
02-20-2004, 02:59 AM
:banana:

andyroxmysox12191
02-20-2004, 03:06 AM
it's 4-3 Andy and De Chaunac is serving. lets go andy!! :yippee: :bigclap: :banana:

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 03:20 AM
6-3 6-3 in 1:05 good job Andy :yeah:

15 aces, served 74%

Enqvist is gonna be tough :scared:

andyroxmysox12191
02-20-2004, 03:23 AM
bunk...watch the match with Enqvist go into a tiebreak. your gonna be hysterical (sp?) :lol:
just to let u know i hate tiebreaks as well but they're fun to watch.

J. Corwin
02-20-2004, 03:25 AM
meh..it's "only" gonna be Enqvist.;)

Andy's doing a lot better on returning, but it seems he sacrificed a bit of his second serve to do that recently.;)

star
02-20-2004, 03:26 AM
From someone who follows Enqvist, he really isn't playing terribly well. If Andy plays well, he shouldn't have a lot of trouble winning.

Enqvist is still on the comeback trail and his confidence isn't the best.

That said: Kom ingen, Tompa! ;)

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 03:27 AM
LOL Jace

you guys are making me feel a little better.

I think it's good for Andy to have to fight for wins. They mean more, keep him on his toes.

Havok
02-20-2004, 03:28 AM
bunk it's Enqvist, dont be too worried

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 03:31 AM
hahaha Naldo always the calming influence.

It's Friday night though... maybe we'll all watch a movie or something and I won't be here to worry :cool:

tangerine_dream
02-20-2004, 04:09 AM
I'm a diligent hater, aren't I?

Nah, but I do find it curious that someone who does not like Roddick shows up in his thread to actively cheer against him? If you're going to do that, expect a slap-down. :devil:

And here I thought *I* was a baiter. :lol:

Actually, your post sounds remarkably similar to certain Williams fans on WTAWorld. Next it'll be "Andy is going to prove the haters wrong", "An American dominating a European-centric sport, you can't handle it," etc.

Since when was tennis considered "euro-centric"? :scratch:

And I don't know what you're implying but I don't go to the WTAWorld (at all) and I'm sure as hell no fan of the Williams sisters. LOL.

tangerine_dream
02-20-2004, 04:17 AM
Andy won! Andy won! Whoooooo! :woohoo:

Ut oh. He plays Enqvist next. :eek: Good luck Andy!

Naldo, LOL! I thought the exact same thing when I saw the pic! I was like "Why is he pulling his pants down?" :lol:

bunk, is that a pic from his match today? And if so, why did he bust his racket? :scratch:

Who does he think he is? Marat Safin? ;)

Havok
02-20-2004, 04:27 AM
its of his match vs Martin. smashed it in the 2nd set i believe out of frustration, obviously. and why is everyone freakin out about Enqvist for??? he should push Andy in one set maybe, but Enqvist will break himself really and hand the match over to Andy, imo

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 04:53 AM
tangy dear you need to look at the time posts are posted ;) :p

Clips from tonight's match (audio)

http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick1_memphis3.wma

http://wm.atptennis-global.speedera.net/wm.atptennis-global/roddick2_memphis3.wma

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 05:02 AM
Roddick Roars Into Quarterfinals
atptennis.com

Top seed Andy Roddick cruised through to the quarterfinals of the Kroger St. Jude with a 6-3, 6-3 victory over French qualifier Sebastien de Chaunac in Memphis.

Roddick took just 65 minutes and fired down 15 aces - including three in his opening service game - to book his place in the last eight, where he will meet Sweden's Thomas Enqvist.

Roddick broke de Chaunac in the opening game of the match and again at 5-3 to take the first set in 30 minutes. The second set went with serve until eighth game when the 2002 Memphis champion Roddick converted his third break point of the game to serve for the match, and then held to love.

After his 2-hour, 20 minute match against Todd Martin in the first round, Roddick was feeling more at home against de Chaunac. "I think every time you visit a court you become more and more comfortable with the surroundings," said Roddick. "It was a different type of match tonight - there were a lot more rallies which allowed me to get into the flow a little bit more, and I didn't have someone constantly pressuring me, so it was little bit more relaxed for me tonight."

Speaking about his opponent, Roddick added: "I'd never seen him play before tonight and he surprised me. Early on he might have been a little bit nervous, but in the second set I thought he played pretty solid and didn't make many errors. He's a high, slow looper, which makes it tough to take full cuts because it's deep and high and finally I was able to get the break in the second. I felt like I served a lot better tonight than I did last night and that was big for me."

Roddick, who has a 1-1 record against Enqvist, losing their first match in Stuttgart in 2001 but winning their last encounter at the Pacific Life Open in Indian Wells last year, said of the Swede: "He has stellar indoor record over his career - I've lost to him indoors before. I have to serve well against him, he goes for his shots a lot and he can dictate points, so I'm definitely going to have to try to hold my own and look for some opportunities to try to break his serve."

tangerine_dream
02-20-2004, 06:32 PM
Another random tennis-related question for you all:

I was reading an older article about junior players and it said that juniors have a tough time making the transition to the pro circuit, which is one reason why the media is ga-ga over Andy because apparently he's one of the few juniors to make it professionally.

My question: WHY is it so hard for juniors to make the transition to pro? And why do so many successful juniors fail on the pro tour? (the article gave some recent examples of top juniors who couldn't cut it once they went pro, but I can't recall their names)

I thought most, if not all, professional players came from juniors? Are there any top players who *didn't* go to juniors before turning pro? Is that even allowed? :confused:

I don't follow junior tournaments at all, in case you couldn't tell .... so if my question make no sense, well .... :tape:

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 06:38 PM
you question definitely makes sense... but I haven't a clue what the answer would be LOL

Havok
02-20-2004, 06:43 PM
why? because they probably play a little bit too much, or expect big things to happen for them. i mean look at the WTA, Dokic was #1 ranked juniors and she's had an amazing pro career. then look at Black, very promising and she's done fuck all in her pro career. i guess it takes some sort of dedication, oh yeah and you NEED weapons as well:lol: maybe one style of play was fine for juniors, but once you step foot in the pro league, you gotta improve your game

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 08:40 PM
well Kiefer beat Jan-Mike so that's who Andy will play if he wins tonight. I'd think Andy would rather play Kiefer (he's 1-0 against him) than Gambill (0-2 and Gambill serve-volleys now apparently). So I'd say this is good for Andy :)

heya
02-20-2004, 10:55 PM
Well, Andy's not the same player he was 2 years ago when he didn't have a game plan and strong nerves, so it's strange to assume that Andy would have a difficult time vs. Gambill.
Gambill hasn't really improved since then.
Head to head records aren't that reliable, unless
1 player has no idea what to do like Federer vs. Henman.

Andy has a problem with strategy and hard work, but he's not
gonna cave in to Gambill anymore if they ever meet again.

Deboogle!.
02-20-2004, 11:06 PM
I didn't say that I thought Andy would lose, I just said I think he'd probably prefer Kiefer over Gambill.

J. Corwin
02-20-2004, 11:16 PM
Another random tennis-related question for you all:

I was reading an older article about junior players and it said that juniors have a tough time making the transition to the pro circuit, which is one reason why the media is ga-ga over Andy because apparently he's one of the few juniors to make it professionally.

My question: WHY is it so hard for juniors to make the transition to pro? And why do so many successful juniors fail on the pro tour? (the article gave some recent examples of top juniors who couldn't cut it once they went pro, but I can't recall their names)

I thought most, if not all, professional players came from juniors? Are there any top players who *didn't* go to juniors before turning pro? Is that even allowed? :confused:

I don't follow junior tournaments at all, in case you couldn't tell .... so if my question make no sense, well .... :tape:

They do make pro, but likely a lot of them end up on the challenger or futures circuits. It's a struggle professionaly when you're playing for small amounts of $ and you're not winning much. They do have to step up their games and a lot of them just can't. The top juniors tend to do a lot better of course but it's still a struggle.

It's also mentally taxing because some of them were winning pretty much all their matches, and suddenly they're on the pro circuit and are losing a lot more often than they have been used to.

MisterQ
02-20-2004, 11:39 PM
I thought most, if not all, professional players came from juniors? Are there any top players who *didn't* go to juniors before turning pro? Is that even allowed? :confused:



Your favorites, tangy --- Les soeurs Williams -- didn't play juniors much.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 12:45 AM
Your favorites, tangy --- Les soeurs Williams -- didn't play juniors much.


This made me laugh SO HARD and I don't have a clue why!!!!!!

Havok
02-21-2004, 01:03 AM
UGH now we have to wait for stupid Raymond and Granville to finish their match. i bet that this match will go the distance because BOTH played are such bad chokers and get tentative and start spraying balls everywhere.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 01:23 AM
Yea we're only at 4-3 in the first set and already almost 45 mins :fiery:

tangerine_dream
02-21-2004, 01:30 AM
Your favorites, tangy --- Les soeurs Williams -- didn't play juniors much.

LOL, Q!

They didn't play juniors? Really? Wow, that's interesting, their being top players and all. Was it their father who taught them?

Havok
02-21-2004, 01:39 AM
actualy Serena played very little junior tennis, only to evade the age rule. she played some junior tennis so she could have played a full schedule in the pros(i think i remembered correctly what some people had posted at wtaworld). but Venus didn't at all because she had already been a pro when the age rule came in

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 01:43 AM
Come on Lisa let's finish this up quickly ok? :rolleyes:

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 01:46 AM
LOL, Q!

They didn't play juniors? Really? Wow, that's interesting, their being top players and all. Was it their father who taught them?

Yup, their father taught them mostly, with some help from others in the later stages.

Whether one likes them or not, one has to admit that their story is pretty interesting. They got a lot of flack and criticism for not playing the juniors, and it was said that they would not become good competitors because they didn't have the experience. And meanwhile their father was bragging that they would become No. 1 and 2 and face off in GS finals, and that irritated the tennis establishment even more! But of course, he ended up being right on all counts.

star
02-21-2004, 01:46 AM
Did I hear correctly that TG (Tennis God) got defeated today?

star
02-21-2004, 01:48 AM
Lisa is going to have to do a powerful lot of choking to lose it from here. :) 5-0

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 01:49 AM
Did I hear correctly that TG (Tennis God) got defeated today?

Yes, the Timinator did slay the deity!

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 01:50 AM
Timinator!!!!!!!!!!! :haha: god Q, how do you do it!!?!!?!? And "Timinator defeats God" would be a great Roddick Monthly headline. Nah but congrats Tim I love seeing him back and having good success.

Thank you for wrapping that up Lisa.. now I get nervous lol

star
02-21-2004, 01:51 AM
I'm expecting that the sun won't rise tomorrow. ;)

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 01:57 AM
I'm expecting that the sun won't rise tomorrow. ;)

Not over Switzerland, at least.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 01:58 AM
lmfao you guys are too much

star
02-21-2004, 02:24 AM
Interesting what Tompa says about Pim Pim's racket vs. Andy's.

"At the Davis Cup he looked at the radar gun after every single serve he hit," said Enqvist. "When you're 30 you don't really do that anymore. Me and Bjorkman, we just try to win the point, we don't really care how fast we hit it. And he plays with a really small racquet - a very thin, tightly strung Head Prestige. Imagine if he played with Roddick's racquet - a wide one - you'd have to give him a special license."

star
02-21-2004, 02:25 AM
1st point to Tompa.

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 02:25 AM
OMG Andy LOST the first point! :scared:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:26 AM
I saw that star. interesting. and it does sound like the DC speed guns are significantly faster than the ones used on a normal basis on tour. Andy didn't even come remotely close to 150 in San Jose.

LMGDFAO Q!!!!!!!!!!!!

star
02-21-2004, 02:28 AM
That wasn't what I thought was interesting. It was the part about the rackets.

star
02-21-2004, 02:28 AM
1st game to Andy.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:29 AM
yea I know lol I mixed up both ideas.

I guess I don't know a lick about the racket technology so stuff like that doesn't make much sense, but yes it is interesting.

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 02:32 AM
Anyone else bothered by the lack of a "U" in "Enqvist?"

:wazzup: with that?!

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:34 AM
LMFAO Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's more annoying - there isn't a U but people say it like there is. I don't know the language but I assume it's not supposed to be pronounced that way?

star
02-21-2004, 02:35 AM
It's Swedish. :P

star
02-21-2004, 02:35 AM
or :p

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:35 AM
Is Andy killing babies ALREADY????????

star
02-21-2004, 02:35 AM
Andy killed two of his babies in that game.

Sjengster
02-21-2004, 02:35 AM
I think it's something to do with the Swedish language, I gather there are lots of different ones around these days apart from English.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:36 AM
it really annoys me when they pronounce it En-quist. It's supposed to be like Enkvist right?

star
02-21-2004, 02:37 AM
LMFAO Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's more annoying - there isn't a U but people say it like there is. I don't know the language but I assume it's not supposed to be pronounced that way?

You might be hearing people pronounce it that way, but are they Swedes?

Everyone can say it if they move their lips. qvist not quist.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:38 AM
lol yea I wasn't suggesting it's hard to pronounce it right, just annoying people don't.

It bothers me when people call Christina Aguilera Ag-willera too. it's Ah-gee-lera

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:38 AM
Good job killing 3 precious little babies Andy :rolleyes:

star
02-21-2004, 02:39 AM
I think it's something to do with the Swedish language, I gather there are lots of different ones around these days apart from English.

Thanks for that startling bit of information imparted to us poor ignorant ones.

:bowdown:

star
02-21-2004, 02:41 AM
Nice comeback in that game from 0-30.

Sjengster
02-21-2004, 02:42 AM
Ah star, you have a characteristically American sense of irony...

star
02-21-2004, 02:42 AM
So, which is the babolat that Andy uses?

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:42 AM
yea... would've been better had he kept one of his babies though!

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:42 AM
So, which is the babolat that Andy uses?

Pure Drive Team + or something like that.... I could look it up, or not. lol.

star
02-21-2004, 02:43 AM
Ah star, you have a characteristically American sense of irony...

Naturally. I barely understood that insult.

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 02:43 AM
I'm sorry I started such a linguistic tussle. 'Twas just a 'lil joke. I honor all Swedes, even those with letter combinations such as "BJ," and languages other than American --- like British for example.

star
02-21-2004, 02:44 AM
And may I say Sjengster that you have a characteristically British pomposity.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:44 AM
lol Q

:hug:

omg why does it smell like skunk!!!!!!??????

star
02-21-2004, 02:46 AM
I'm sorry I started such a linguistic tussle. 'Twas just a 'lil joke. I honor all Swedes, even those with letter combinations such as "BJ," and languages other than American --- like British for example.

Even I with my characteristically stunted intelligence understood that it was a joke, Q. :)

It might possibly be misunderstood by my betters that I was joking back.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:47 AM
doesn't look like Andy is serving as well tonight. He better not regret not converting those bps :(

star
02-21-2004, 02:47 AM
So.... Andy's is 100 inches as compared to Pim Pim's 93.

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:48 AM
why do you people call break points babies:haha: it just sounds terrible:haha:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:48 AM
whatever that means :scratch: :confused:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:49 AM
why do you people call break points babies:haha: it just sounds terrible:haha:

star and I started doing it one day and it just sort of stuck. LOL

star
02-21-2004, 02:49 AM
Of course, I have torn loyalties in this match.

Hard for me with Mardy and Pim Pim too.

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:49 AM
isnt it the bigger the diameter of the racquet frame, the larger the sweet spot?? and isn't that really only with groundstrokes that it helps you, as well as returns? does a larger sweet spot add more pop to your serve:shrug:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:50 AM
I think it must Naldo since it's all we ever seem to hear about lol

star
02-21-2004, 02:50 AM
why do you people call break points babies:haha: it just sounds terrible:haha:


well, we were talking one day about Andy wasting break points and one of said...... Andy, break points are like precious babies... don't keep wasting them......... and you see how it grew. :)

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:51 AM
well, we were talking one day about Andy wasting break points and one of said...... Andy, break points are like precious babies... don't keep wasting them......... and you see how it grew. :)

lol exactly.... but I don't even remember whether it was you or me! LOL! Not that it matters but now I'm curious lol

star
02-21-2004, 02:51 AM
isnt it the bigger the diameter of the racquet frame, the larger the sweet spot?? and isn't that really only with groundstrokes that it helps you, as well as returns? does a larger sweet spot add more pop to your serve:shrug:


According to Tompa. And I've got to think Tompa knows something about serving. :)

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:52 AM
:haha: reminds me of that article i read in one of my humanities classes. i forgot the name of it, but im sure one of you people know the name of it. about eating irish babies or something like that. grosses me out:scared:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:52 AM
LOL star I will assume you're kidding but since I don't know enough about him I don't know why... care to elaborate?

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:53 AM
oh and bunk, it seems like a tie-break in the 1st set is emminent. run for your life:devil:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:53 AM
maybe I'll just leave now and put on some engrossing movie or something lmfao

Naldo you're so mean to me *goes to corner and :bigcry:*

star
02-21-2004, 02:54 AM
The Head....... according to the site I am looking at is very stiff and has a lot of power. It is also heavier than the pure power plus. 330gr to 300

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:54 AM
aw bunk, you know i mean no harm:hug:

star
02-21-2004, 02:55 AM
LOL star I will assume you're kidding but since I don't know enough about him I don't know why... care to elaborate?

Tompa has a great serve. It's his real weapon. His old coach is now coaching Pim Pim. He's a good coach for the serve.

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 02:55 AM
star and I started doing it one day and it just sort of stuck. LOL

At first I was wondering what you two were referring to. I was like, huh? babies?? lol

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:55 AM
what head. the racquet company or the part of the racquet?

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:56 AM
ugh please Andy get this win over with quickly, i don't wanna be stuck here late at night. k thanks:banana:

star
02-21-2004, 02:57 AM
lol exactly.... but I don't even remember whether it was you or me! LOL! Not that it matters but now I'm curious lol

I was thinking, and I honestly don't remember either, but both of us thought it was marvelously funny. :)

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:58 AM
*doesn't think its funny*:p

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 02:58 AM
And what do you mean by "wasting babies"?

Havok
02-21-2004, 02:59 AM
not converting on his break point chances;)

star
02-21-2004, 02:59 AM
what head. the racquet company or the part of the racquet?

Did you read the thing I posted about what Tompa said about the racket Pim Pim uses compared to the one that Andy uses?

Anyway, it's the Head Prestige. It's small, heavy, and stiff.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 02:59 AM
"wasting babies" means he didn't convert the break point (or the server saved it as the case might be)

and lol star I'm glad you find it funny too ;)

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 03:01 AM
Yes yes, I know that's what you guys mean. But what literally does "wasting babies" mean? Killing infants??? Or getting them wasted?

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 03:02 AM
LMFAO I've never thought about it in literal terms

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:02 AM
Did you read the thing I posted about what Tompa said about the racket Pim Pim uses compared to the one that Andy uses?

Anyway, it's the Head Prestige. It's small, heavy, and stiff.
i read that little passage even before you posted it, so i didn't read it, but my memory is for the garbage so there's your answer to why i asked the question about the Head. and i doubt that there will be a really significant change in the mph if you switch racquets, or will there be one:scratsh:
on the other hand, one more game to start a tie-break:scared: bunk must be going crazy

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:02 AM
getting them wasted:haha:

Sjengster
02-21-2004, 03:02 AM
And may I say Sjengster that you have a characteristically British pomposity.

How did you guess?

OK, here's the deal. Q said that he didn't understand why there was no U in Enqvist, so I sarcastically noted that this might have something to do with the Swedish language being different from English and all. You then seemed to take this literally as me trying to inform everyone about other languages, hence my comment that you had a typically American sense of irony, ie little or none. It was a lousy generalisation, but it seemed appropriate at the time.

BTW, I agree that infanticide is a terrible crime, Federer has frequently been guilty of it in the past.

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 03:03 AM
Cuz I guess wasting babies could also mean Andy getting hit you know where, and thereby killing babies. ;)

star
02-21-2004, 03:03 AM
Naldo. Which Babolat does Andy use?

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 03:04 AM
LMGDFAO Jace

gaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh tb gaaaahhhhh

naldo I hate you :( lol Andy you could have avoided this if you had broken.

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:04 AM
and the mini break to Enqvist right off the bat:rolleyes: Andy win in straights i tell you

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 03:04 AM
I always thought it was Pure Drive Plus. (?)

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:05 AM
Pure dDrive Plus racquet
just go to www.tenniswarehouse.com click on atp players, click on Andy and it'll show you his racquet

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:05 AM
oh for the love of god 0-4:yawn:

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 03:05 AM
Stop shitting this TB away Andy

star
02-21-2004, 03:06 AM
How did you guess?

OK, here's the deal. Q said that he didn't understand why there was no U in Enqvist, so I sarcastically noted that this might have something to do with the Swedish language being different from English and all. You then seemed to take this literally as me trying to inform everyone about other languages, hence my comment that you had a typically American sense of irony, ie little or none. It was a lousy generalisation, but it seemed appropriate at the time.



Thank you, Sir. Without that long explaination one of my stunted intelligence would never have been able to grasp what had transpired or have the slightest idea what you meant.

Very gracious of you to bother to explain to one of my depleted sense what to your British, and thus, exhalted, mind was self evident.

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:06 AM
now would be a good time for a shit emoticon:lol:

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 03:07 AM
omg and you wonder why I hate TBs

ANDY! COME ON!

star
02-21-2004, 03:08 AM
Pure dDrive Plus racquet
just go to www.tenniswarehouse.com click on atp players, click on Andy and it'll show you his racquet

Yeah. That was the one I looked up. Thanks for the confirmation. And for the information about where to get racket info. :)

star
02-21-2004, 03:09 AM
GREAT comeback!!!

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:09 AM
ouch Enqvist giving up the mini break with a doublefault. poor dude:hug: i enjoy the way he plays though, ala Dokic:banana:

MisterQ
02-21-2004, 03:09 AM
Ooo, a dovble favlt from Enqvist!

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:09 AM
uh-oh 6-5 sp Roddick

star
02-21-2004, 03:10 AM
SET POINT on Andy's serve!!

Havok
02-21-2004, 03:10 AM
DF from Andy, HILARIOUS:haha:

star
02-21-2004, 03:10 AM
Ooo, a dovble favlt from Enqvist!

:haha: :haha:


Not that I understood it. ;)

tangerine_dream
02-21-2004, 03:10 AM
are you guys on AIM or not???

Sjengster
02-21-2004, 03:11 AM
Thank you, Sir. Without that long explaination one of my stunted intelligence would never have been able to grasp what had transpired or have the slightest idea what you meant.

Very gracious of you to bother to explain to one of my depleted sense what to your British, and thus, exhalted, mind was self evident.

See what I mean? - no sense of irony whatsoever... ;)

Wow, that's a great choke by Enqvist, 5-6 from 2-5, and Roddick just returned the favour by doublefaulting on setpoint.

J. Corwin
02-21-2004, 03:11 AM
Andy returned the favor by double-faulting himself.

star
02-21-2004, 03:13 AM
are you guys on AIM or not???

Not.

ohhhhh they're playing Johnny be good.

Go Johnny Go Go!

Oh my that little country boy could play.

tangerine_dream
02-21-2004, 03:13 AM
Thank you, Sir. Without that long explaination one of my stunted intelligence would never have been able to grasp what had transpired or have the slightest idea what you meant. Very gracious of you to bother to explain to one of my depleted sense what to your British, and thus, exhalted, mind was self evident.

Hahaha! :haha: :worship:

star
02-21-2004, 03:14 AM
Tompa ........ set point.

Deboogle!.
02-21-2004, 03:14 AM
some of us are on AIM tangy get on!

DAMN IT ANDY!!!!!!!!!!

star
02-21-2004, 03:15 AM
One to Tompa.

star
02-21-2004, 03:15 AM
WOW. Tompa winning 92% of his first serves.