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Mrs. B
02-13-2004, 10:04 AM
won't be till 8 weeks time, but i'm so excited cuz i got a 3-day ticket, for free!!!

:bounce:

Wombi
02-13-2004, 03:12 PM
where did you get it?

Mrs. B
02-13-2004, 03:58 PM
my gf won it last year in Gstaad but she can't make it as she has other commitments already so she's passing it down to me, and it's ok with Swiss Tennis.
but you can order them starting March 1.
are you going?

:bounce:

Lindsayfan
03-26-2004, 07:36 PM
I've partecipated to a draw of tickets..maybe I'll be drawn too! ;)

Mrs. B
03-26-2004, 09:52 PM
Good luck, Val!

Got our tickets yesterday from the post. :)

Lindsayfan
03-26-2004, 09:59 PM
Mrs.B: i'll let you know if i'll be drawn! ;)
btw...ur signature is quite scaring.I hope God is also on the side of poor ppl :sad:

Dirk
03-27-2004, 06:41 AM
I think that quote is referring to Roger vs the rest of the tour.

Mrs. B
03-27-2004, 07:32 AM
exactly, Dirk.

but one has to be careful these days what to 'quote' here, u could get into trouble. ;)

Val, i'll look for another sig, no worries, it's just a sig. And if u do get drawn, we could meet in Lausanne. Doris will be there too with another fan from Roger's site.

Dirk
03-27-2004, 07:37 AM
Just because one has money doesn't mean they are stronger. There are many who are strong inside from all walks of life. Keep the quote Mrs. B its a good one. Roger doesn't need any gods on his side because HE IS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif

Lindsayfan
03-27-2004, 12:54 PM
guys,dont get me wrong! I was talking in general..I just said that I hoped God was also by side of poor,unhappy and weak ppl :sad: I wasnt talking of money or of tennis!

Mrs B,I'll have an answer about tickets on March 31th. cross your fingers! ;)

Mrs. B
03-27-2004, 02:23 PM
it's ok, Val. i know what you mean. ;)

i'll keep my fingers crossed for you. hope you get lucky! :bounce:

i think they won't be allowing poles or sticks inside the venue so just to make sure, i've changed my 'accessoire' for DC. i'm now gonna be wearing a straw hat with a plastic Emmentaler cheese on top with a little cow hanging on the side. LOL! :lol:
and i'll carry a Swiss flag for sure. ;)

RogiFan88
04-05-2004, 02:40 AM
HOPP SCHWEIZ!!!

rogicomel
04-05-2004, 08:04 AM
Good luck Rogi and co!

Bilbo
04-05-2004, 05:18 PM
Rogi has to do it all by himself

yanchr
04-05-2004, 05:19 PM
Hopp Schweiz :bounce:

And take care Roger :)

Billabong
04-05-2004, 11:23 PM
GOOO SWISS:D :banana:!!!!!!!!

Nymeria
04-06-2004, 11:45 AM
Good luck Swiss! :bounce:

RogiFan88
04-06-2004, 02:10 PM
Legolas, nice to see you here!! How are you?

HOPP SCHWEIZ!!! ALLEZ, LA SUISSE!! FORZA SVIZZERA!!

Dirk
04-06-2004, 04:09 PM
Grosjean pulled out. Reports said he caught a virus in Miami. I must say I admire Roger's startegy; Get sick, then poison everyone else and heal up before they do. http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/contrib/ed/laughpf.gif

Raquel
04-06-2004, 05:10 PM
Good Luck Switzerland :) and Roger! :hearts:

Have fun all the Fed fans from the board who are going to the matches :wavey:

Marine
04-06-2004, 05:13 PM
:bigcry:
It's so sad... sad for Sebastien, for the french team, for me too... Switzerland doesn't need of that to win ...pffffffffffffff :sad:

RogiFan88
04-06-2004, 05:37 PM
Marine, qui va jouer les doubles? La Cle et Llodra?? et les simples? La Cle et ?? Escude?

Dirk
04-06-2004, 06:03 PM
Yeah its sad but Grosjean will get better in due time. I'm just glad its something that rest and medicine will clear up and not an injury.

Marine
04-06-2004, 06:10 PM
Marine, qui va jouer les doubles? La Cle et Llodra?? et les simples? La Cle et ?? Escude?

En simple, escudé et arnaud probablement...de toute façon y'a pas beaucoup de possibilités :sad: , et en double je sais pas: escudé/llodra surment.

Dirk
04-06-2004, 06:14 PM
Clement and Escude are a good team. Forget might have really messed up by firing Santoro.

RogiFan88
04-06-2004, 08:18 PM
Merci, Marine! J'ai vu des photos de Seb et il semble vraiment malade... il n'a pas bonne mine -- faut qu'il se recupere bien! C'est dommage... tous ces joueurs malades ou blesses...

Marine
04-06-2004, 10:04 PM
Santoro doesn't play in single.
But if Nico plays in double AND in single, he will be tired, so yes it's a problem...

esther
04-07-2004, 06:26 AM
J'ai vu des photos de Seb et il semble vraiment malade...
WHERE? WHERE?

Mrs. B
04-07-2004, 09:30 AM
that's why Seb was not there on Monday during practice. Quel dommage.

i'm sure he'll sit with the rest of his team and cheer them on.

Jim Jones
04-07-2004, 11:46 AM
Santoro is struggling in singles but is a good doubles player. But his loss won't really be felt since Escudé, Llodra & even Bennetteu are good at doubles. France are still favored to win without Grosjean & Escudé not in form to play 3 ties. But I'm for Switzerland. Allez la Suisse!

Doris Loeffel
04-07-2004, 12:16 PM
Hooppp Schwiiizzz

Viu Glück!!!

Nymeria
04-08-2004, 08:08 AM
Good luck Switserland :)

Billabong
04-08-2004, 10:56 AM
Can't wait for the matches to begin:D!!!

Mrs. B
04-08-2004, 12:46 PM
live scoreboards available during the matches:

www.swisstennis.ch/daviscup

tomorrow Friday starts at 1300h local time.

Nymeria
04-08-2004, 09:29 PM
:( I don't want Federer to play Clément

RogiFan88
04-09-2004, 12:19 AM
HOPP SCHWEIZ!!!

Wish I could see these matches on TV...

yanchr
04-09-2004, 08:23 AM
Goooo Roger! Hope to hear some good news from you when I'm back. :bounce:

rogicomel
04-09-2004, 08:27 AM
Good luck Rogi, Ivo, Yves and the rest of the team!!!

SWISS BOLEH!

Alessia
04-09-2004, 08:31 AM
I'm sure he'll win the game.

Forza Roger!

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 11:16 AM
Hopp Rogi

1-1 Escude serving

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 11:25 AM
Well done Rogi, get another break of serve.

3-1 Feds

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 11:37 AM
Another break to Rogi and he is serving for the set.

5-2 Rogi Hopp Schwiiz

TheBoiledEgg
04-09-2004, 11:43 AM
wow Roger on fire

but its only 1 set yet.

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 11:45 AM
Well done Roger in getting that early break.

Rogi leads 1-0 make raclette out of Escude.

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 11:49 AM
2-0 Rogi, it looks like Escude can't make any headway into Rogi's service games.

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 12:05 PM
4-2 Rogi come on finish this in three and hopefully this will give Ivo some confidence for his match.

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 12:12 PM
Serving the set come on Roger lets go and finish the 2nd set strongly.

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 12:19 PM
Rogi wins 6-4

yanchr
04-09-2004, 12:19 PM
Well done Roger! :bounce:
Finish it in 3!

yanchr
04-09-2004, 12:48 PM
woohoo a break for Roger!

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 12:50 PM
Well done Rogi, finish Nico off now.

yanchr
04-09-2004, 01:01 PM
Let's serve for it Roger!

Aleksa's Laydee
04-09-2004, 01:08 PM
arg come on france!!!

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 01:10 PM
Matchboll Rogi, hopp hopp serve an ace to end it.

Aleksa's Laydee
04-09-2004, 01:10 PM
ah damnit
roger wins AGAIN :(

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 01:10 PM
Game set match Rogi great win over Nico.

Hopp Ivo it's time to make a name for yourself.

yanchr
04-09-2004, 01:11 PM
ummm...narrowly escaped failing to serve for match
Great job Roger!!
Now Ivo let's go!

yanchr
04-09-2004, 01:12 PM
ah damnit
roger wins AGAIN :(
:rolleyes:

RogiFan88
04-09-2004, 01:20 PM
Woohoo! Yes! Rogi wins again!! Hopp Ivo!

Dirk
04-09-2004, 01:29 PM
NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif


Ok I will calm down now. Thanks George and hey can you tell us details?

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 01:35 PM
I didn't see the match, but I know he won 91 % of points on both his 1st and 2nd serves, and seemed to be clearly superior. I have some Swiss friends who are there, they will tell me when they get back in greater detail.

I am following the Argie/Belarus match and it's not going well for me.

Dirk
04-09-2004, 01:59 PM
I know you are worried about the USA winning DC and Argentina would surely stop them. I just hope Sweden does good. I will tell you all about those matches George. Looks like Spain is doing great. JC has a double break in the 1st. Good to see him back. COME ON IVO BABY!!!!!!!!! http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 02:06 PM
Thanks for that Dirk, any non-biased reporting would be welcomed.

Experimentee
04-09-2004, 02:08 PM
Clement is winning 100% on both his 1st and 2nd serves but Ivo has won 2 receiving points? :scratch:

Experimentee
04-09-2004, 02:10 PM
Hmm sorry read the wrong line of the stats. Still only winning 2 receiving points is pretty bad from Ivo :rolleyes:

Experimentee
04-09-2004, 02:12 PM
I think Ivo has no chance, but come on Ivo anyway! :)

Aleksa's Laydee
04-09-2004, 02:33 PM
6-3 2-1 clement!! :)

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 02:38 PM
Ivo Hamburger has just lost his serve and the dwarf has a break in the 2nd, come on Ivo do your best.

Aleksa's Laydee
04-09-2004, 02:42 PM
dwarf lol!!! well dwarf is 4-1 up!

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 02:45 PM
My dislike for the bandana wearing dwarf goes a long way back and he will be cheval when Rogi is finished with him.

Billabong
04-09-2004, 02:52 PM
Congrats Fed:D!!!

Experimentee
04-09-2004, 03:01 PM
Ivo still only won 3 points on Clements serve for the match :o

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 03:02 PM
It looks like it will be up to Fed/Allegro tomorrow to give the Swiss a chance at winning this tie.

Dwarf has taken a 2 set lead with a break in the 3rd.

Experimentee
04-09-2004, 03:02 PM
Come on Ivo, its not like Arnaud has a huge serve :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 03:05 PM
Or a huge anything apart from his short person syndrome.

Billabong
04-09-2004, 03:06 PM
Cmon Ivo:(!

Dirk
04-09-2004, 03:39 PM
George I can't promise you any none biased reporting but I will do my best. I just hope Thomas gets outplayed and not lose the match due to turning Moya on us. :fiery: Shit looks like Ninja has to cut all the throats by himself yet again. :rolleyes: Well allergo will help. HEY GEORGE IF THEY BEAT FRANCE THEY WILL PLAY SPAIN IN SPAIN????? THAT MEANS ROSSET AND ROGER FOR THE DOUBLES BABY. ROSSET IS AWESOME ON CLAY AND ESPECIALLY ON DOUBLES. COME ON SWISS. That Tie will rule. http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/otn/blobs/multi.gif

alfonsojose
04-09-2004, 03:40 PM
Ivo HOTberger is really cute. he should be a model. Great legs, great body, underwear model's face :devil:. The guy on Foxsports told his best achievement at tennis was being Hingis' ex-boyfriend :tape:

Action Jackson
04-09-2004, 03:41 PM
Ivo HOTberger is really cute. He should be model. The guy on Foxspotrs told that his best achievement was being Hingis' boyfriend :haha:

Ivo Hamburglar was Mr Hingis for a short time.

yanchr
04-09-2004, 03:48 PM
Ivo...so simple.....

alfonsojose
04-09-2004, 03:48 PM
Yes, i know. I guess i wrote it wrongly. Corrected :). Thanks, GWH

Raquel
04-09-2004, 03:49 PM
Well done Roger :)

jtipson
04-09-2004, 04:27 PM
HEY GEORGE IF THEY BEAT FRANCE THEY WILL PLAY SPAIN IN SPAIN????? THAT MEANS ROSSET AND ROGER FOR THE DOUBLES BABY. ROSSET IS AWESOME ON CLAY AND ESPECIALLY ON DOUBLES. COME ON SWISS. That Tie will rule.

It would be in Switzerland, so unlikely to be on clay. I don't want to get ahead of myself, since the doubles tomorrow is going to be really tough, but I'd love to see Federer/Ferrero on carpet in Basel :)

yanchr
04-09-2004, 04:27 PM
IF THEY BEAT FRANCE THEY WILL PLAY SPAIN IN SPAIN?????
If...they will play in Switzerland

But before we can talk about that, let's first wait until the double's result...

lsy
04-09-2004, 04:56 PM
yeah!!! Good to come back and see a win from Rogi :) Well done though I have no idea how did the match go but it seems like he played pretty good.

But poor Ivo...sigh

Nervewrecking double match again tomorrow. Didn't the French team win the AO this year? But was llodra/Santoro instead. Gonna be tough...

Dirk
04-09-2004, 05:21 PM
Yeah Thank God Guy Faggot is stupid and fired Santoro. Otherwise I wouldn't give Swiss any chance to win the tie.

lsy
04-09-2004, 05:28 PM
that's true.

But I'm still pretty skeptical of the Swiss chance. I wish I had seen for once Rogi/Yves double match, I have minimal idea how well do they play together.

novanora
04-09-2004, 05:30 PM
It gonna be tough tomorrow for doubles, but still chance of winning. Ivo's game was partly in the estimation. I really expect Switzerland vs Spain for some private reason:devil: Let's wait for tomorrow.

Marine
04-09-2004, 05:42 PM
Or a huge anything apart from his short person syndrome.

...

Il vaut mieux être petit sympa et charmant que grand moche et con.
Appele le comme tu veux mais garde ce mot pour toi merci car si pour certains l'expression n'a rien de méchant c'est plutôt méprisant de ta part.

Jim Jones
04-09-2004, 06:06 PM
Yeah Thank God Guy Faggot is stupid and fired Santoro. Otherwise I wouldn't give Swiss any chance to win the tie.
Santoro sucks as a singles player. Have you seen his recent results? France needs 3 good singles players. Even Benneteau is a better singles player than Santoro. Also Benneteau & Escude are decent doubles players.

Dirk
04-09-2004, 07:28 PM
um Santoro is for the doubles follow the posts Jim. Lorda and Santoro are an excellent team in doubles and taking him off was a huge mistake.... well maybe.

Billabong
04-09-2004, 07:28 PM
I hope Switzerland win the doubles tomorrow!!!

RogiFan88
04-09-2004, 08:22 PM
Woo hoo for Rogi!! Too bad for Ivo... Rogi/Yves HAVE to win the dbles now... and Rogi must beat La Cle also or SUI will not meet ESP in the SF... fingers crossed!!

Hi Billabong, how are you?

Wish we got DC matches... they should show them cos some of the most dramatic and exciting tennis is played for DC...

RogiFan88
04-09-2004, 08:27 PM
It would be in Switzerland, so unlikely to be on clay. I don't want to get ahead of myself, since the doubles tomorrow is going to be really tough, but I'd love to see Federer/Ferrero on carpet in Basel :)

Now THAT w be interesting... who w win??? I w kill for that match, as I w for the DC matches... why oh why don't they show these matches?? Some of the most dramatic and exciting in all tennis... the DC site s sell them...

alfonsojose: I saw Ivo modelling tennis clothes, incl underwear... w little Swiss flags on them... cute!!

HOPP SCHWEIZ!!!

carole
04-09-2004, 08:38 PM
nooooo switzerland put roger in 3 matches :eek:
i understand them cuz it's their only really really good player :s
but...
i wanted france to win :D lol
THEY HAVE TO WIN THE DOUBLES TOMORROW!!!!
else i should start praying :s

C'mon arnaud, good luck in R4!!!!!!

rogicomel
04-10-2004, 12:42 AM
Good win for Rogi. Glad he finished it in straight sets coz he needs to play on Saturday.

Good luck Rogi/Yves!

Goooooooooooooooooo Swiss!!!!

Fedex
04-10-2004, 04:56 AM
Good luck to Rogi/Allegro, i am however sceptical about doubles though, as i have never seen them play together. They did win a title together last year, against Mirnyi, so thats definatly good news.

FryslanBoppe
04-10-2004, 04:59 AM
They are fairly good together, as they have played together since their teens so it won't be a lack of combination that will hurt them.

Fedex
04-10-2004, 04:59 AM
It would be in Switzerland, so unlikely to be on clay. I don't want to get ahead of myself, since the doubles tomorrow is going to be really tough, but I'd love to see Federer/Ferrero on carpet in Basel :)
Now that would be interesting. Certainly Switzerland would choose to play indoors, as it suits Roger's game very well. :) But lets not get ahead of ourselves. first they must get through France ;)

Dirk
04-10-2004, 05:04 AM
Yeah this Doubles is the do or die moment for Swiss. Man they are lucky Santoro is not here.

WyveN
04-10-2004, 08:39 AM
Why do they even borther playing singles in this tie :lol:
the doubles will obviously decide it

carole
04-10-2004, 10:46 AM
Well, I HOPE the semi final is going to be Spain-France,
but since Grosjean isn't playing...
i think it's going to be Spain-Swiss...

The Federer-Ferrero match would probably be the most exciting one...
but Federer is a carpetfreak, Ferrero a clayfreak... it would be Fed' winning I guess :s but then again, Ferrero would win his other match probably...
All Spaniards or clay-freaks actually :s
BUT they have more very good players than Swiss, so...
a lot of pro's en contra's for both countries!

...

Well i'm sure Spain-Swiss would be an exciting tie :P
my prediction would be 3-2

But hey, we should first think about Swiss-France :D
eeeexxxxcccciiiittttiiiinnnngggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Raquel
04-10-2004, 12:27 PM
First set in the doubles to Switzerland!! :bounce:

Allegro/Federer lead Escude/Llodra 7-6(4) :D

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 12:46 PM
woo hoo!! keep going, SUI!!!!!!

HOPP SCHWEIZ!!!

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 12:48 PM
excuse me, Juanqui has proven he can play and win on indoors... TMS Madrid03!

WyveN
04-10-2004, 12:53 PM
I can almost tell which player is receiving from the scoreboard
a lot of Swiss returning games have the pattern of 15-0, 15-15, 30-15, 30-30, 40-30........game france

Dirk
04-10-2004, 12:58 PM
Come on Swiss focus and fight this is crazy. Thanks for the terrible 2nd set boys. :fiery:

TheBoiledEgg
04-10-2004, 12:59 PM
France set all

WyveN
04-10-2004, 01:00 PM
are you watching Dirk? A must win set for the Swiss boys now.

WyveN
04-10-2004, 01:00 PM
amazingly Swiss still haven't lost a single point on second serve

carole
04-10-2004, 01:11 PM
excuse me, Juanqui has proven he can play and win on indoors... TMS Madrid03!

yes, ofcours, i'm the first one to join you in that statement!
but i bet roger feels a lot more confident indoor as juanqui!

carole
04-10-2004, 01:13 PM
Allez Escude et Llodra!!!

Marine
04-10-2004, 01:34 PM
ALLEZ LES BLEUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

WyveN
04-10-2004, 01:46 PM
The Swiss break back after going down a break at 5-5 in the 3rd and being down 0-30!!

Key tiebreak

TheBoiledEgg
04-10-2004, 01:54 PM
French 2 sets to 1 up

Dirk
04-10-2004, 02:02 PM
I hate the french faggoteers. I REALLY DO. Spain will wipe them off the court. Swiss sucks and Allergo sucks. Roger can't do it by himself. He needs Manta or Rosset. Roger should skip all DC ties from now on. Why waste the effort????? :fiery: Fucking Gay ass Butt Brothers will win. USA is so fucking lucky to have a very well balanced team. Swiss has nothing but Roger. Roger has to wipe their asses EVERY FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!! :fiery:

WyveN
04-10-2004, 02:10 PM
Calm down Dirky - this match isn't over yet, let alone the tie.

WyveN
04-10-2004, 02:10 PM
holding serve here would be nice though

carole
04-10-2004, 02:11 PM
another breakpoint for ...
FRANCE!!!

WyveN
04-10-2004, 02:12 PM
bah, they lost serve. Seems over now.

Still got hope of a miracle from Michel/Ivo :rolleyes:

carole
04-10-2004, 02:12 PM
Ok,
S-F: 7-6 3-6 6-7 1-3... and France serving...
It's over.

yanchr
04-10-2004, 02:13 PM
I think uptil now it's over....

Dirk
04-10-2004, 02:16 PM
Its all for nothing Spain will waste The FRENCH FAGGOTEERS IN SEPTEMBER. :fiery: The worst part of all is that roger will actually feel bad about this, him of all people on the team will feel bad for this loss. Ivo and Micheal will just look at him and :shrug: "we suck" Allergo is too young and not experienced or good enough although is improving.

carole
04-10-2004, 02:18 PM
which underground will they be playing on in France? (semifinal Sp-Fr) Clay again? in that case... bye France.

maybe... i guess clay is also the Frenchies' fav underground...so...
but still...


I'm already thinking to far :D we're stil in quarterfinal now :p

WyveN
04-10-2004, 02:20 PM
The worst part of all is that roger will actually feel bad about this, him of all people on the team will feel bad for this loss. Ivo and Micheal will just look at him and :shrug: "we suck"

LOL
I don't think Roger will dwell on it to much if they lose, especially if he wins both his singles matches. He knows fully well the lack of depth in Swiss tennis and is not really expecting to win the DC in the near future.

I suggest Rosset nominates Hingis for the deciding rubber if needed

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 02:25 PM
good one, wyven!

WyveN
04-10-2004, 02:31 PM
Considering the Swiss still have a 100% success rate on second serve I suggest they should use the first serve for a single purpose - trying to hit Escude in the head so that he is injured for the deciding rubber

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 02:31 PM
Break them, SUI!!!

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 02:32 PM
wyven, you kill me!!

TheBoiledEgg
04-10-2004, 02:34 PM
LOL@Wyven :haha:

mp now
deuce

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 02:36 PM
I hate this... nervewracking...

TheBoiledEgg
04-10-2004, 02:37 PM
Considering the Swiss still have a 100% success rate on second serve I suggest they should use the first serve for a single purpose - trying to hit Escude in the head so that he is injured for the deciding rubber


thats not points won on 2nd serve ;) but actually to get 2nd serve into court :)
pts won on 2nd serve is 24/37

carole
04-10-2004, 02:37 PM
It's over.
See you next year, Swiss.

TheBoiledEgg
04-10-2004, 02:38 PM
France win doubles
now its really tough or mission impossible

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 02:38 PM
it's over for the dbles...

here we go again... Rogi MUST beat La Cle and Micha will have to be the hero... come on, once a year isn't too much pressure?!!!

WyveN
04-10-2004, 02:39 PM
thats not points won on 2nd serve ;) but actually to get 2nd serve into court :)
pts won on 2nd serve is 24/37


ahhh......i knew something must have been wrong.

That last game was just a tease but its all over now :(

yanchr
04-10-2004, 02:44 PM
I guess it's ALL over now...:sad:

yanchr
04-10-2004, 02:46 PM
Tomorrow...a miracle...??? No...I don't believe in this....

Marine
04-10-2004, 02:47 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

France fucked Rosset ! :devil:

Great job boys ! What such a good day !!!! I'm sooooo happyyy !! :bigclap:

RogiFan88
04-10-2004, 02:49 PM
well you know the dbles w be tough and it IS the crucial match, esp when you're tied up 1-1... unlike the Spanish guys... damn the rain delay tho... hopefully Rafa/Tommy can storm back and win this thing

Rogi w dearly love to win a DC salad bowl but without solid support fr another player it's practically impossible...

WyveN
04-10-2004, 03:04 PM
The big question is who does Rosset play in the deciding rubber (assuming that Roger beats Clement) and will it even make a difference?

I say go for Kratochvil or even Rosset, got experience and has at least won a deciding rubber before.

yanchr
04-10-2004, 03:06 PM
Yeah I know that RF... I HAD expected today's double loss by Swiss, coz we all know that France has got a really strong double team, maybe more than one. But when it actually happened, it's just difficult to accept...Well, many facts are tough to accept though...

Roger, now take a rest and focus on tomorrow's match...I'm just wondering how could he...

Experimentee
04-10-2004, 03:20 PM
Its pretty much all over for the Swiss now. No way is Heuberger or Kratochvil going to win a match tomorrow, unless someone is injured, but that isnt likely.

Aleksa's Laydee
04-10-2004, 06:06 PM
yeah!!!! go france woo hoo, have that federer!! :bounce: :bigclap: :bigclap: :woohoo: :banana:

Doris Loeffel
04-10-2004, 11:22 PM
Well it wasn't meant to be today - but hey you all know I'm a believer ;)

Soooo HOOOOPPPP SCHWIIIIZZZZ

Good luck for the final day!! Come on guys you still can do it!!

Dirk
04-10-2004, 11:35 PM
Go on cheer for the French Faggoteers but Marine and Fatboyfish fan ask yourself this... HOW MANY OF THESE CURRENT FRENCH GUYS WILL DO ANYTHING REMOTELY AS SUCCESSFUL AS ROGER IN THEIR CAREERS? Yep thought so. Spain will have a fucking field day this september. Oh well at least one country and player I love will win DC this year. Rosset can't step in as he is not a player on the team.

Dirk
04-11-2004, 01:45 AM
Oh dream that would be great, now you are thinking. :bounce: :D

Billabong
04-11-2004, 02:37 AM
Good luck tomorrow Fed:banana:!!!

RogiFan88
04-11-2004, 02:46 AM
Cheering for Rogi tomorrow!! HOPP!!!!

Cheering also for whoever plays the 2nd sgle...

HOPP SCHWEIZ!!!

esther
04-11-2004, 08:50 AM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

France fucked Rosset ! :devil:

Great job boys ! What such a good day !!!! I'm sooooo happyyy !! :bigclap:

Lol marine!!

...and Dirk- go to hell

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:19 AM
Roger leads 2-0 come on crush Clement and at least take it to a live 5th match.

Aleksa's Laydee
04-11-2004, 11:22 AM
clement what are you doing? hold your serve dont lose it!!

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:23 AM
Double break to Rogi, keep up the good work. Clement you got a present against Hamburger and now the hiding is coming your way.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 11:28 AM
clement what are you doing? hold your serve dont lose it!!

whats clement doing?

more like, what in the world clement can do to win

lsy
04-11-2004, 11:32 AM
I'm so far behind in results.

so disappointing that the Swiss lost the double...so even if Rogi wins this match, then what? Who will be playing the last single for Swiss? Can Rosset play himself?

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:32 AM
5-1 Rogi keep up the good work.

Will Kratochvil or Hamberger play the last match? Rosset probably should have nominated himself, I just hope the Swiss can win, but it will be very tough.

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:34 AM
Bad luck about the doubles Rogi/Allegro were leading 5-3 in the 3rd set tie break and Allegro was actually serving quite well, but losing that breaker stuffed them and Llodra was the best player, too bad Allegro didn't make enough returns.

lsy
04-11-2004, 11:37 AM
Go on cheer for the French Faggoteers but Marine and Fatboyfish fan ask yourself this... HOW MANY OF THESE CURRENT FRENCH GUYS WILL DO ANYTHING REMOTELY AS SUCCESSFUL AS ROGER IN THEIR CAREERS? Yep thought so. Spain will have a fucking field day this september. Oh well at least one country and player I love will win DC this year. Rosset can't step in as he is not a player on the team.

:haha: ...Dirk is back to his usual sour self. Maybe the french players won't be as successful as rogi in their individual careers, but they seem to have a better chance to win DC compare to Rogi in the near future.

Come on Rogi and the Swiss team, prove me wrong!!!

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:42 AM
6-2 well done Roger keep going on finish him off.

lsy
04-11-2004, 11:45 AM
Rogi must be really disappointed with yesterday double. It's not over, come on Rogi play your best, win this match, bring fire to your team mate and the crowd.

Hope for a miracle!!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 11:46 AM
I wonder who Rosset will go with in the last match, he himself would probably have the best chance of victory but he isn't nominated

WyveN
04-11-2004, 11:47 AM
unfortunately I can't see Escude being beaten on a surface such as this, on clay maybe

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:49 AM
I agree WyveN, but I think he will go with Krati, as after falling many times at the last hurdle he beat Verkerk in the 5th match last year.

Lucky it's not Bastl, I felt sorry for him being in so many 5 setters and losing them especially on the match point against France in 2001.

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 11:51 AM
30 all on Clement's serve come on Roger break the dwarf.

Aleksa's Laydee
04-11-2004, 11:52 AM
come on france :D

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:23 PM
Come on Roger, two breaks points and didn't convert, break him here.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 12:28 PM
Should have broken there........GO ROGER!
Crush the frog

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:30 PM
Escargot with Emmenthal cheese would be great, but now is not the time to play around with Clement.

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:30 PM
ya come on Rogi, break him now!!!

the frog???

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:33 PM
Roger leads 6-5 with a break.

Hopp Hopp Rogi

WyveN
04-11-2004, 12:33 PM
ya come on Rogi, break him now!!!

the frog???

Australians often refer to the French as frogs, probably due to the way the frog dominates a lot of French restaurant menus

Aleksa's Laydee
04-11-2004, 12:34 PM
:( clement!!! what are u doing??

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:37 PM
Australians often refer to the French as frogs, probably due to the way the frog dominates a lot of French restaurant menus

So are the Chinese menus ;)

Serve for it now Rogi!!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 12:37 PM
ok 2 sets to love, knowing Roger he often follows up a close set that he won with a complete blowout so high chance of a very comfortable victory

12 aces for Roger!

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:39 PM
ok 2 sets to love, knowing Roger he often follows up a close set that he won with a complete blowout so high chance of a very comfortable victory

12 aces for Roger!

Usually though there was the Hewitt fiasco.

Come on Rogi maintain focus.

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:40 PM
Go go go Rogi!!!

Why do I feel like deep deep inside me, I'm just wasting my time cheering here...

Come on Rogi!!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 12:41 PM
Go go go Rogi!!!

Why do I feel like deep deep inside me, I'm just wasting my time cheering here...


I feel the same, although if Swiss have to lose I would much rather Roger win this match rather then have a repeat of Australia

Aleksa's Laydee
04-11-2004, 12:43 PM
7-5 in the 2nd :(

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:43 PM
I feel the same, although if Swiss have to lose I would much rather Roger win this match rather then have a repeat of Australia

Try being there sitting in the front row of the debacle, made it worse than it already was.

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 12:46 PM
Well done Roger 1-0 with an early break, let's end the dwarf's misery quickly.

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:46 PM
I feel the same, although if Swiss have to lose I would much rather Roger win this match rather then have a repeat of Australia

must you all bring up that match again? It's one terribly painful memory. It's worse enough watching in front of tv so yes GWH I can understand how bad it must have been.

yes up a break in 3rd set.

yanchr
04-11-2004, 12:48 PM
Why do I feel like deep deep inside me, I'm just wasting my time cheering here...

I think we are all wasting our time here, but I'm still expecting a sign of miracle...

Now I'm wondering who is to play next for Swiss...???

FryslanBoppe
04-11-2004, 12:48 PM
Yes, Isy something like that match will never be forgotten especially if you are a Roger fan or a tennis fan in general, it's happened to nearly every top player to lose a 2 sets to love lead, it's just worse when it's Davis Cup.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 12:49 PM
Watching Bastl lose against Escude in the 5th rubber after having match points was far more depressing :(

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:50 PM
Watching Bastl lose against Escude in the 5th rubber after having match points was far more depressing :(

I wasn't there for that one luckily, and Bastl had many chances to beat the Poo in Zurich all those years ago in the 5th match.

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:52 PM
Yes, Isy something like that match will never be forgotten especially if you are a Roger fan or a tennis fan in general, it's happened to nearly every top player to lose a 2 sets to love lead, it's just worse when it's Davis Cup.

ya the atmosphere and hewitt "come on" right onto your face did make it worse. But according to many other loyal Rogi's fans, it had happened to him many times, so I'm lucky I'd only become a fan since last year.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 12:53 PM
I think we are all wasting our time here, but I'm still expecting a sign of miracle...

Now I'm wondering who is to play next for Swiss...???

Well there is Kratochvil who has not won a main draw match for 7 months or you have Heuberger who is on a 6 match main draw losing streak

Decisions! Decisions! And I still haven't mentioned their wonderful DC records!

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:56 PM
Well there is Kratochvil who has not won a main draw match for 7 months or you have Heuberger who is on a 6 match main draw losing streak

Decisions! Decisions! And I still haven't mentioned their wonderful DC records!

WyverN, can really count on you to just crush that slight hope of miracle I'm trying to build here in one sentence.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 12:56 PM
ya the atmosphere and hewitt "come on" right onto your face did make it worse. But according to many other loyal Rogi's fans, it had happened to him many times, so I'm lucky I'd only become a fan since last year.

There haven't been many occasions when Federer was leading 2 sets to love and has lost. Hewitt has beaten Roger many times when Roger beat himself, but it was the other factors like he had to win for his country, serving for the match, the numerous chances that added to make it worse.

Kratochvil should play.

lsy
04-11-2004, 12:59 PM
There haven't been many occasions when Federer was leading 2 sets to love and has lost. Hewitt has beaten Roger many times when Roger beat himself, but it was the other factors like he had to win for his country, serving for the match, the numerous chances that added to make it worse.

Kratochvil should play.

I mean circumstances when he choked, or maybe I just read too many of Dirk's post ;)

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:00 PM
edit: double post

yanchr
04-11-2004, 01:00 PM
Well there is Kratochvil who has not won a main draw match for 7 months or you have Heuberger who is on a 6 match main draw losing streak

Decisions! Decisions! And I still haven't mentioned their wonderful DC records!
You are inhuman to cut the slightest hope to death...

If only Roger could come back with a disguise to play the 5th tie...

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:01 PM
WyverN, can really count on you to just crush that slight hope of miracle I'm trying to build here in one sentence.

In situations such as this, it really is best to have close to zero hope.

I have been following the Federer-Swiss DC saga for a while now and I to used to have high hopes of unlikely 5th rubber swiss victories yet my expectations have been crushed so many times now that I have become highly pessimistic

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:04 PM
In situations such as this, it really is best to have close to zero hope.

I have been following the Federer-Swiss DC saga for a while now and I to used to have high hopes of unlikely 5th rubber swiss victories yet my expectations have been crushed so many times now that I have become highly pessimistic

I think I can be more pessimistic than you when it comes to this, I never get my hopes up, it's healthier that way.

I just remember that clown Hlasek in the 92 DC final that was enough for me.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:07 PM
I don't know if I sympathise Rogi or his DC team mates more. Rogi for the pressures he has to face to win all the time, or his team mates for being thrown to situation they're not up to only because there's a Roger Federer in the team.

yanchr
04-11-2004, 01:13 PM
I don't know if I sympathise Rogi or his DC team mates more. Rogi for the pressures he has to face to win all the time, or his team mates for being thrown to situation they're not up to only because there's a Roger Federer in the team.
Poor Roger for sure! Actually I can't persuade myself not to come up with the idea that Roger should skip the stupid DC...

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:14 PM
Neither the problem that Switzerland has is that they never had two of their good players at the peak around the same time.

In 92 Rosset was good but he had to carry Hlasek who was crap in the final, then when Rosset was at this best, there wasn't anyone around, then when Federer was coming up Hlasek wouldn't pick Rosset because of personality problems, now Feds is good and Rosset is past it.

The only thing is that Stani needs to be better in 2 years and then there is hope for them.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:15 PM
Hard to feel sorry for Roger's team mates, without Roger they will probably be in zonal group 2.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:17 PM
5-3 Feds come on and break Clement here.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:20 PM
Come on Rogi, serve for the match now!!!

Calm down, yanchr :)

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:20 PM
Serving for the match come on Roger get the 1st serves in and finish off the munchkin.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:21 PM
Poor Roger for sure! Actually I can't persuade myself not to come up with the idea that Roger should skip the stupid DC...

That is a ridiculous and ill-informed statement.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:22 PM
Why wouldn't Rogi and Rosset play for the double instead? Would this combination be better than Rogi and Yves? (see, that's what I meant having pity for the team mates, here I'm blaming Yves for the loss again ;) )

yanchr
04-11-2004, 01:22 PM
Calm down, yanchr :)
:lol: I do. I'm holding less than the least hope if there is any..

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:24 PM
Well done Roger!

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:24 PM
Game Set Match Rogi straight sets like it should be against the munchkin and we'll find out soon enough who the 5th player will be.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:24 PM
YES!!! Rogi had brought it to 2-2 for Swiss!

yanchr
04-11-2004, 01:26 PM
Roger has done all he could, now it's up to sb else

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:27 PM
Why wouldn't Rogi and Rosset play for the double instead? Would this combination be better than Rogi and Yves? (see, that's what I meant having pity for the team mates, here I'm blaming Yves for the loss again ;) )

Lets see you go out and do better.

Rosset said after Australia he wasn't going to play in any more ties, and he knows he is way past his best and is looking ahead as he can't be there forever.

Allegro did his best and stop blaming him as the only reason they lost, sure he could have made more returns, but that is the best they have. As long as they put in then they can't be faulted irrespective of whether they win or lose.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:29 PM
I agree, Allegro-Federer is the best combination for the Swiss and they are not that bad of a team, can only get better with experience.
Federer himself admitted that he was far from his best yesterday and Allegro played better then he did against Romania.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:33 PM
That's the thing Wyver they led 5-3 in the 3rd set breaker and if they win that, it changes the match. Allegro was quite good and that's the thing Roger has to play very well and Yves has to be as solid as he can, if that's the case that is when they will play well, it's just that Yves is usually on the challenger circuit and hasn't played many big matches.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:34 PM
Lets see you go out and do better.

Rosset said after Australia he wasn't going to play in any more ties, and he knows he is way past his best and is looking ahead as he can't be there forever.

Allegro did his best and stop blaming him as the only reason they lost, sure he could have made more returns, but that is the best they have. As long as they put in then they can't be faulted irrespective of whether they win or lose.

Well that's exactly what I meant for Rogi's team mates, Allegro certainly is tryng to do his best so is Ivo or the others but if it's not good enough to win, then what else can they do? Not very fair for them to keep having reports which said they're the reason the Swiss can't win, though that to a certain extent is true.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:35 PM
Certainly had their chances and lets not forget who they were versing - Escude, one of the best volleyers, and llodra a grand slam doubles champion

yanchr
04-11-2004, 01:39 PM
oh it's Michel Kratochvil
Good luck!!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:40 PM
Well that's exactly what I meant for Rogi's team mates, Allegro certainly is tryng to do his best so is Ivo or the others but if it's not good enough to win, then what else can they do?


All they can do is try their best and I am certain they are thankful for the opportunity


Not very fair for them to keep having reports which said they're the reason the Swiss can't win, though that to a certain extent is true.

The rest of the Swiss team know fully well that they are the reason the Swiss are not winning the DC but I am still certain that they are thrilled to have a player like Federer on the team.
Without Federer they would be playing on Zone 2 in a empty stadium rather then being competetive against a relative tennis powerhouse country in front of a sell out home crowd.

Ivo, Michel etc shouldn't feel guilty that they are not as good as Federer but just try their best, as long as they do that then no more can be asked of them and they have nothing to be ashamed of.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:40 PM
That's why it was imperative against a team like Escude and Llodra that they took every chance that went their way.

Isy, I don't believe everything that I read and of course it's easy to blame the others. The doubles loss in Australia was because Roger wasn't playing at his best and Rosset was the better player, it can happen that Roger doesn't play as well some times.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 01:43 PM
The guys have nothing to be ashamed of and they are doing their best and people are just lazy if they are going to continually blame them for everytime Switzerland loses a DC tie.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:48 PM
All they can do is try their best and I am certain they are thankful for the opportunity



The rest of the Swiss team know fully well that they are the reason the Swiss are not winning the DC but I am still certain that they are thrilled to have a player like Federer on the team.
Without Federer they would be playing on Zone 2 in a empty stadium rather then being competetive against a relative tennis powerhouse country in front of a sell out home crowd.

Ivo, Michel etc shouldn't feel guilty that they are not as good as Federer but just try their best, as long as they do that then no more can be asked of them and they have nothing to be ashamed of.

I agree. So I hope Roger will continue to enjoy playing in the DC while his team mates will continue be motivated with the reasons you had stated and keep improving.

lsy
04-11-2004, 01:56 PM
That's why it was imperative against a team like Escude and Llodra that they took every chance that went their way.

Isy, I don't believe everything that I read and of course it's easy to blame the others. The doubles loss in Australia was because Roger wasn't playing at his best and Rosset was the better player, it can happen that Roger doesn't play as well some times.

It certainly can happen, no doubt. That's what the double is all about, having the understanding and able to cover each other when one isn't playing well. So I always favour the Swiss chances against another contry with strong single but weaker doubles instead of the other way round. I don't think playing double is having one particularly good player. And it's a pity for Yves that Rogi is not likely to be partnering him during tournaments to give him that type of match experiences he needs.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 01:58 PM
1-0 Michel
Good start - first set is crucial!

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:01 PM
Go Michel!!!

Play your best now!

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:04 PM
Doing pretty well, holding serves to zero.

Come on Michel, you can do it!

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:09 PM
2-2 15 all, come on Misha hold your serve.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:10 PM
break point............losing serve early would be suicidal

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:11 PM
Come on Marc give him encouragement, and some good advice.

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:11 PM
and there he lost his serves...

Come on Michel!!!

yanchr
04-11-2004, 02:12 PM
Michel was broken... fight back!!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:12 PM
sigh........im going to follow the spain-dutch scores now, something tells me there will be a bigger battle there

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:14 PM
no...WverN, don't give up as yet :(

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:14 PM
sigh........im going to follow the spain-dutch scores now, something tells me there will be a bigger battle there

A huge battle over there actually.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:15 PM
no...WverN, don't give up as yet :(

oh I still have hope but it is depressing to watch :(

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:18 PM
oh I still have hope but it is depressing to watch :(

I know but the Netherland/Spain matches had brought my hopes up, I didn't think they'll have any chances at all after the spain double were leading 2 sets up.

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:19 PM
4-3 Nico, come on Krati lets break serve here.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:19 PM
true, anything is possible in DC

yanchr
04-11-2004, 02:23 PM
I'm still here watching the seemingly hopeless tie. I will stick to the end to see how things are going there...so don't give up until it's over...Maybe our sincerity will touch God ;)

I'm also expect an upset from Spain. Go Verkerk!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:23 PM
ok break point........CAN NOT WASTE THESE opportunities

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:24 PM
Yes! Go Michel! 4-4

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:24 PM
He broke back well done Misha 4-4 now maintain the focus and hold serve.

yanchr
04-11-2004, 02:24 PM
Hey, Michel broke back :bounce:
see anything is possible

Goooooo Michel!!!

SaFed2005
04-11-2004, 02:26 PM
Wow He did, he really broke back... There is still hope...

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:27 PM
5-4 to the Swiss!

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:27 PM
Game point hopp hopp Misha well done for 5-4.

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:27 PM
Oh yes Michel!!! 5-4 now!!!

Hopefully he is extremely motivated with the whole crowd behind him!!!

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:28 PM
I wish I had coverage........I am trying to analyse the match through the virtual serve thing lol

lsy
04-11-2004, 02:30 PM
I wish I had coverage........I am trying to analyse the match through the virtual serve thing lol

I'm even more amazed you're actually trying to analyse the match when I can barely look at it.

WyveN
04-11-2004, 02:33 PM
Was just joking, I find the serve "feature" incredibly stupid. I am pretty amazed I am sitting here following a scoreboard in the middle of the night :)

Action Jackson
04-11-2004, 02:33 PM
I wish I had coverage........I am trying to analyse the match through the virtual serve thing lol

I am doing the same thing, it's not easy but you can get some things through it though.

SaFed2005
04-11-2004, 02:34 PM
6-5 now break him

yanchr
04-11-2004, 02:34 PM
6:5 Michel

Gooooo!!!

SaFed2005
04-11-2004, 02:34 PM
TOTAL POINTS WON 29-29 very close so far