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Better one-handed backhand

tennisrocks123
09-15-2006, 03:05 AM
Federer or Henin-Hardenne? I am a huge Roger fan, but I think Justine's one-handed backhand is superior. Sure Federer has improved his backhand, but Justine's backhand is so crisp and powerful. I think it's the best in the mens' or womens' game. Federer, Mauresmo, Gasquet trail Justine's.

BigAlbinoDonky
09-15-2006, 03:08 AM
Come on, Federer would blow Justine off the court with his backhand.

Sjengster
09-15-2006, 03:20 AM
Not a fair comparison - obviously any one in the men's game with a half-decent backhand would overwhelm Henin on her backhand, we can only discuss their merits relevant to their respective tours. Anyway they do different things, Henin's backhand is a much more explosive topspin shot reminiscent of Gasquet and Gaudio at their best on clay, the way they drive through the ball and strike clean winners. Federer is hitting a lot more backhand winners nowadays, but more through angle and change of pace than by sheer power.

Deboogle!.
09-15-2006, 03:24 AM
Neither, Gasquet's please :cool:

mangoes
09-15-2006, 03:45 AM
Neither, Gasquet's please :cool:


Oh yes:lol: :lol: Gasquet's backhand is so beautiful............. Although, everytime someone says, beautiful backhand, I immediately think of Guga:lol:

Deboogle!.
09-15-2006, 03:57 AM
Oh yes:lol: :lol: Gasquet's backhand is so beautiful............. Although, everytime someone says, beautiful backhand, I immediately think of Guga:lol:GUGA's BH :hearts::inlove::hearts::inlove:

It's just been so long since we've gotten to see it :sad:

helen phillips
09-15-2006, 04:18 AM
We are talking about the stroke production and it's effectiveness in their games on their respective tours. A completely fair comparison. It has always been a go to shot for Justine and unlike with Federer I have never seen it really breakdown on her which is a measure of her comfort with it. Conversely I think it has occasionally let Roger down because it was once a weakness. Still I think as a stroke his is as well produced as hers and I don't think she has quite as much feel - his ability to adjust to pace and keep the ball in play is exceptional. On offense hers may be better (mostly because of attitude not stroke production) but I give Federer the nod on defense.

deliveryman
09-15-2006, 06:20 AM
Come on, Federer would blow Justine off the court with his backhand.

You're an idiot.

Do you honestly think that's what he was asking? Seriously.

R.Federer
09-15-2006, 06:23 AM
Justine's, more beautiful. Roger's, more powerful (even discounting for gender differentials; also, he has far more variety on the back hand side).
One exception, Roger's backhand cc return, dipping low. A thing of beauty; spectators go "ohhhh" because they think it won't clear the net, and see how it justtttt does.

TennisGrandSlam
09-15-2006, 07:02 AM
No way to compare Men ad Women.

Only discuss ATP, the best single-backhand


Becker : mid-80s - mid-90s
Sampras : mid-90s - late-90s
Kuerten : early-2000s
Now : Federer

leng jai
09-15-2006, 07:18 AM
Federer's backhand is pretty overrated. Yes his backhand return and passing shots are awesome, but thats because they're both short backswings. In rallys, Federer's backhand can be pretty poor. He struggles to generate his own pace on the backhand, and quite often frames them. He has a habit of hitting short and loopy backhands which have little penetration. This happens more often at the French and Aus Open though where the bounce is higher. I'm talking exclusively about his topspin backhand, as his slice is easily the best in the game. There are plenty of 1H players on tour who have a better backhand than Federer - Haas and Gasquet for example.

Polikarpov
09-15-2006, 07:28 AM
For me, Justine's backhand is more beautiful to watch. But for me, Roger gets my vote for the things he can do with it. (though he usually mishit on that side)

sawan66278
09-15-2006, 03:46 PM
Guga!!! ;) ;)

GlennMirnyi
09-15-2006, 04:27 PM
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rod99
09-15-2006, 05:00 PM
Federer's backhand is pretty overrated. Yes his backhand return and passing shots are awesome, but thats because they're both short backswings. In rallys, Federer's backhand can be pretty poor. He struggles to generate his own pace on the backhand, and quite often frames them. He has a habit of hitting short and loopy backhands which have little penetration. This happens more often at the French and Aus Open though where the bounce is higher. I'm talking exclusively about his topspin backhand, as his slice is easily the best in the game. There are plenty of 1H players on tour who have a better backhand than Federer - Haas and Gasquet for example.

agreed. guys like gasquet, haas, pavel, calleri, ljubicic, and gaudio all have better topspin backhands than federer.

marcRD
09-15-2006, 05:04 PM
Federer may not have the mostpowerful backhand. But if you count his ability to make impossibleangles, change pace and specialy his ability to defend andreturn powerful 1st serves. I would say he may have the best backhand in the ATPtour.

jmsx521
09-15-2006, 05:16 PM
Henin's is cleaner and more text-book-like. Speaking of other text-book one-handers

Present: Maresmo, Guga
Former: Stich, Pescosolido?, Delatre, Korda?, Furlan

Pfloyd
09-15-2006, 05:32 PM
Gaudio has decent backhand. Ljubcic too.

But Gasquet in Montecarlo 2005 vs Fed. :eek: <- - - - That's a good backhand

wally1
09-15-2006, 05:51 PM
No way to compare Men ad Women.

Only discuss ATP, the best single-backhand


Becker : mid-80s - mid-90s
Sampras : mid-90s - late-90s
Kuerten : early-2000s
Now : FedererIMO Edberg had a far better backhand than Becker.

LCeh
09-15-2006, 06:33 PM
Where's Gaudio? He hits through his backhands even against Nadal's high topspining lefty forehand shots on clay. One incredible shot.

Pfloyd
09-15-2006, 06:44 PM
Fed's backhand is good, but it can let him down occasionaly.

Jim Courier
09-15-2006, 07:01 PM
Federer may not have the mostpowerful backhand. But if you count his ability to make impossibleangles, change pace and specialy his ability to defend andreturn powerful 1st serves. I would say he may have the best backhand in the ATPtour.
If we're talking best backhand on a good backhand day, Fed's is among the best, but it almost singlehandedly lost him this year's RG final. Gasquet's or Gaudio's are much more reliable.

cmurray
09-15-2006, 07:06 PM
Oh yes:lol: :lol: Gasquet's backhand is so beautiful............. Although, everytime someone says, beautiful backhand, I immediately think of Guga:lol:


My GOD. Don't tell me we actually agree on something??? :eek: :D


I miss Guga - most beautiful backhand in the world. Henin's is gorgeous too, VERY smooth as is Gasquet's. Roger's definitely gets the job done, though.

Now Roddick....THERE'S a backhand. :drink:

jenanun
09-15-2006, 07:12 PM
I would say Gasquet's backhand is the best.....

Federer's backhand seems to be less reliable than Gasquet's...
Of course, when it is 'on', he is the best.....
However, I watched some of his matches this year, and his backhand was just completely 'off'......

Gaudio backhand is good as well..... again, when it is 'on'....

Byrd
09-15-2006, 07:15 PM
I would say Gaudios backhand for sheer power is the best, after seeing him play gasquet at bastaad (or was it gstaad?), anyway the point is, their backhand rallies were something to see, but everytime gaudio would always come out on top in each rally, as it was overwhelming gasquet. Only reason he lost that day was because he couldn't convert any breakpoints and decided to give-up in the 2nd set like usual.

radics
09-15-2006, 07:20 PM
Justines is better. Absolutly beautifull to watch. Rogers backhand is not even the best on the ATP Tour (but at least one of the better).

But the overall package of Federer is imho better than anything else.

Neely
09-15-2006, 09:02 PM
Henin-Hardenne's backhand usually seems much more stable and reliable and less mishit-vulnerable. Comparing Henin's backhand with the women's game and Federer's with the men's game, I would say that Henin's backhand is better and more outstanding on the WTA Tour than Federer's in the ATP game.

Somebody said that Federer can create better angles with his backhand: I would agree to that. Also Federer's backhand slice is much superior to Justine's. But maybe that is already an unfair comparison, because like regarding power, also all half-decent male players should have more spin in their slice or topspin strokes compared to female players.

leng jai
09-16-2006, 12:56 AM
The thing is, Federer has a whole lot of 'off' days on his backhand, especially when hes under pressure. Example - Haas vs Feder 4th round Aus Open 06 and Federer Vs Nadal RG Final 06. Both of those matches was framemania for Fedex on his backhand

Merton
09-16-2006, 12:59 AM
This is a no-brainer. Guga.

leng jai
09-16-2006, 01:20 AM
Yes guga for power easily. But he had next to no variety and his slice backhand really sucked

Fedex
09-16-2006, 01:23 AM
It has always been a go to shot for Justine and unlike with Federer I have never seen it really breakdown on her which is a measure of her comfort with it. Conversely I think it has occasionally let Roger down because it was once a weakness.
I have seen her backhand break down plenty of times, and to be honest she generally makes alot more errors than Federer does. She's not as erratic as the William sisters, but she can be sloppy at times, especially with the forehand.

joeb_uk
09-16-2006, 01:58 AM
As good as federers backhand is, it is certainly not the best backhand on the atp tour. There are at least 5 players (easily) I would put ahead of federer in terms of quality on their backhand. Federer does not have an explosive backhand, I hate to use the term but it just looks a kind of a wimpy shot. I mean look at someone like gasquet, calleri, they can really generate some explosive power. Their action looks alot more stronger, rather than federers which actually looks quite flimsy.

Gasquet, Safin, Pavel, Calleri, Gaudio etc all have better backhands in my opinion, a lot stronger shots and have the change of pace and explosiveness federer lacks.

joeb_uk
09-16-2006, 02:01 AM
As for the original topic question, relative to the two different tours/games (atp - wta). Give me henin any day, such a beautiful shot, and looks so steady and also one of those explosive backhands like I talked about ^^^ Justine can dominate players with her backhand, federer is not really in that style. Even if he didnt have such a great forehand, I doubt he would be able to dominate with the backhand like her.

Havok
09-16-2006, 02:01 AM
Henin's backhand is WAY overrated. Her forehand is so much better than her backhand. Federer's backhand is also overrated imo. He opts for the slice far too often, though when he does decide to smack it and it feeling good he can hit it really good. A whole bunch of times, though, he really shanks it badly :o. Gasquet easily has the best one hander on both tours. Once he perfects his defensive capabilities off of that one hander everyone needs to watch out!

joeb_uk
09-16-2006, 02:02 AM
Henin's backhand is WAY overrated. Her forehand is so much better than her backhand. Federer's backhand is also overrated imo. He opts for the slice far too often, though when he does decide to smack it and it feeling good he can hit it really good. A whole bunch of times, though, he really shanks it badly :o. Gasquet easily has the best one hander on both tours. Once he perfects his defensive capabilities off of that one hander everyone needs to watch out!


NALDO?????? Man, I havent seen you on here for like a year. What happened to you?

Havok
09-16-2006, 02:12 AM
Don't really hang around the GM that much, though it has become much more fun nowadays since all the negative focus is somewhat off Andy and now on Ljubicic and co. Plus school and work full time doesn't leave me with much "me" time :help:.

JW10S
09-16-2006, 02:13 AM
I think Henin-Hardenne's backhand is more of a factor in her success than Federer's backhand is to his. H-H's backhand is a strength in her game while Fed's is a relative weakness.

Fedex
09-16-2006, 02:46 AM
Now Roddick....THERE'S a backhand. :drink:
I actually cannot knock on Roddick's backhand as much. Its a solid shot now, and is somewhat reliable. Certainly its still not close to being one of the best backhands on tour.

Fedex
09-16-2006, 02:49 AM
Henin's backhand is WAY overrated. Her forehand is so much better than her backhand.
Her forehand is certainly the more powerful shot, but it is prone to break down at times. Her backhand is more solid in that respect.

Action Jackson
09-16-2006, 08:30 AM
Kuerten first, then in no order Gasquet, Gaudio, Calleri, Pavel and Fed's backhand is very good when firing, but I wouldn't say it was the best on tour.

Melvins
09-16-2006, 11:41 AM
GUSTAVO "GUGA" KUERTEN :worship: :worship: :worship:

xtiano
09-16-2006, 01:11 PM
Oh yes:lol: :lol: Gasquet's backhand is so beautiful............. Although, everytime someone says, beautiful backhand, I immediately think of Guga:lol:
Guga's BH is the most beautiful IMO

mashamaniac
09-16-2006, 01:38 PM
tommy haas has the best one handed backhand after roger!! of course these days everybody wants to play single-handed just like srichaphan and tim henman!! but tommy has the best after fedex!

wimbledonfan
09-16-2006, 05:52 PM
Federer and Sampras are genetic clones of eachother . Their backhands were never the greatest on tour , however , what seperates their backhands from everyone else , is how effective they hit their slice shots . This is very effective on grass which in my opinion has made them multiple Wimbledon champs .

Allez-H˛
09-16-2006, 07:09 PM
Henin's backhand is WAY overrated. Her forehand is so much better than her backhand. Federer's backhand is also overrated imo. He opts for the slice far too often, though when he does decide to smack it and it feeling good he can hit it really good. A whole bunch of times, though, he really shanks it badly :o. Gasquet easily has the best one hander on both tours. Once he perfects his defensive capabilities off of that one hander everyone needs to watch out!

To say Henin's BH is overrated is quite rude I'd say. I personally think her BH and FH are equally as good, and both can break down on an offday. Her BH gets more attention than her FH because her BH is so fluent and natural, she says herself that her BH was the same when she just started out playing tennis. Whereas her FH seems more forced, because she had to work really hard on to turn that weakness into a weapon. She tends to build-up the point with BH and end it with a FH-winner.

On topic now, you can't possibly compare Fed's BH with Justine's. It's a different tour, different game, different opposition.