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Roleplay Andy Roddick

Fumus
02-12-2004, 04:04 PM
Your name is Andy Roddick. You are in the finals of a hard court tournament. You are down a set to the number 1 player in the world Roger Federer. (Best 2 out of 3)

Role-play Andy Roddick...what do you do to win this match?

i.e. How would you put Andy's talents against Roger's...What would your game plan be?

Havok
02-12-2004, 06:06 PM
blast forehands to his backhand side. and play unbelievable tennis throughout the match:lol:

Fumus
02-12-2004, 06:19 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of force Federer to get into baseline rallies. Then come to net just to mix things up. Basically, you can't let Federer dictate play, even if it means unforced errors you have to move Federer around and keep him off his game. That's how Nalbandian beat him by consistantly moving Fed around and not letting him dicatate play. He doesn't play good defense(well as compared to the rest of his game)...

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 06:41 PM
He's got to serve the match of his life, and return the match of his life too. Be on the aggressive, mix it up, come to the net, keep Roger guessing.... in addition to the things you already mentioned :)

Fumus
02-12-2004, 06:47 PM
He's got to serve the match of his life, and return the match of his life too. Be on the aggressive, mix it up, come to the net, keep Roger guessing.... in addition to the things you already mentioned :)

To quote Jim Carrey's character in dumb and dumber

Lloyd -"What are the chances of a girl like me ending up with a guy like you?"

Mary Swanson - " About 1 in a million"

Llyod - "So you're saying theres a chance"

Later on she says she has a husband and Llyod says "What was all that 1 in a million talk"

:haha:


You guys suprised me, I didn't hear anyone say impossible to that. Right on!

Havok
02-12-2004, 07:01 PM
nah, Nalbandian won vs Federer by playing cat and mouse. he let Roger go on the inititative, and that's not really Roger's way of playing all the time. David drew out tons of errors from Roger. moving Roger around is good and all, but he can smack some awesome shots on the run

Fumus
02-12-2004, 07:10 PM
nah, Nalbandian won vs Federer by playing cat and mouse. he let Roger go on the inititative, and that's not really Roger's way of playing all the time. David drew out tons of errors from Roger. moving Roger around is good and all, but he can smack some awesome shots on the run

So you think play defense? Let Fed go crazy on offense on you. Just pray he errors more than he hits winners?

Havok
02-12-2004, 08:14 PM
no, Roddick doesn't play that way. Roddick's all out offence, but if he's stuck playing defence, he can hold up very well. David plays that way, giving different speeds on the ball, throwing loopy shots, slices, different actions on the ball, all at the same time staying relatively in defence mode. that forces Federer to step it up and hit winners right away. Roger isnt used to that, therefore erros pile up. i wouldn't say Roddick can't play like that vs Roger, but it's useless because he'll have more trouble trying to play that type of tennis, than actually beating Roger. bottom line is Roddick must play an extremely well played match, and it wouldn't help if the holes in his game were patched up a little bit more

Fumus
02-12-2004, 08:23 PM
no, Roddick doesn't play that way. Roddick's all out offence, but if he's stuck playing defence, he can hold up very well. David plays that way, giving different speeds on the ball, throwing loopy shots, slices, different actions on the ball, all at the same time staying relatively in defence mode. that forces Federer to step it up and hit winners right away. Roger isnt used to that, therefore erros pile up. i wouldn't say Roddick can't play like that vs Roger, but it's useless because he'll have more trouble trying to play that type of tennis, than actually beating Roger. bottom line is Roddick must play an extremely well played match, and it wouldn't help if the holes in his game were patched up a little bit more

That's a very good post Naldo. I think all of that is very true. You have to play within your game. That's one of the first rules on how to win Tennis. You just have to be able to adjust to your opponent. I think Andy has to do that to beat Roger. Andre did it to beat Pete. This is how he will grow as a player. By finding how to beat Roger, he will become a great player.

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 08:40 PM
Well as Brad said many times and even quite recently, you can't focus on just beating one player. If you do, you forget about all the other ones who can beat you, too and it turns into an obsession.

I actually think the biggest thing Andy needs to do with Roger is get on court BELIEVING he can win. If he can do that and really believe it, I think some of the other stuff might fall into place.

Talking about playing offensively and defensively, one of the things Andy's improved upon greatly in the recent months is playing defensively, hanging around til the chance comes his way, etc. And I think this will help him a looooooooong way throughout the years.

Fumus
02-12-2004, 08:48 PM
Well as Brad said many times and even quite recently, you can't focus on just beating one player. If you do, you forget about all the other ones who can beat you, too and it turns into an obsession.

I actually think the biggest thing Andy needs to do with Roger is get on court BELIEVING he can win. If he can do that and really believe it, I think some of the other stuff might fall into place.

Talking about playing offensively and defensively, one of the things Andy's improved upon greatly in the recent months is playing defensively, hanging around til the chance comes his way, etc. And I think this will help him a looooooooong way throughout the years.

I think Fed's game is the one that stands between Roddy and number 1..

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 08:57 PM
Fed's game, yea, because if Roger keeps winning he'll be #1 but I don't know that it's related to Andy. If that makes sense. I mean Fed will be the guy who keeps a LOT of guys from #1, not just Andy... maybe that's a better way of saying it.

tangerine_dream
02-12-2004, 09:22 PM
Here's a question for you all:

What is it about Andy's game that allows him to beat Nalbandian (who can beat Federer) but doesn't allow him to also beat Federer (whom Nalby owns)?

'splain that one! :)

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 09:22 PM
I take my bottle of Ether and pour a small amount into all of Roger's hand towels when he is not looking. Then I let loose a few of my red fire ants in Roger's spare sneakers. After rubbing a few leaves of poison ivy along his spare racket handles, I then warm-up and pound my forehand on the lines all match long. :angel:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 09:26 PM
Well first of all tangy, as Andy has admitted himself, a couple of the times he beat David, David was far from his best. the USO and Basel matches were really tight and ultimately could've gone either way, as could the Kooyong one for that matter.

First of all, Davis is not intimidated by Roger and going in, that is a huge advantage. Andy is intimidated by Roger, the way he talks about him being the most talented, etc etc whatever whatever. I think that's partially where it starts.

Plus, Federer is the type of guy who can give Andy problems. He returns lots of serves (look what he did to Andy and Flip at Wimby and Marat at the AO!!!) and gets them into play, he hits every shot in the book, mixes it up, etc.

I mean there's no exact answer why the head to heads are not transitive LMAO. But it's the whole idea of matchups and contrasting styles and whatnot that makes the sport so interesting.

Havok
02-12-2004, 10:06 PM
Andy beats David moreso than Federer because he play all out attacking tennis. oh and he has the serve;)
Roger likes to work out points to death, and then smack a winner. that won't cut it with Nalbandian. and his serve isn't as fast as Andys, so David will have more looks at some returns as opposed to a few when playing Andy.

Fumus
02-13-2004, 12:27 AM
I take my bottle of Ether and pour a small amount into all of Roger's hand towels when he is not looking. Then I let loose a few of my red fire ants in Roger's spare sneakers. After rubbing a few leaves of poison ivy along his spare racket handles, I then warm-up and pound my forehand on the lines all match long. :angel:

Q you are the man. Don't forget to pee in his gaterade for effect.

Dirk
02-13-2004, 03:48 AM
Pray Roger is having a off day. Not too much Andy can do depending on the surface. I still think Andy's best Slam chance to beat Roger is at Oz because of the high bounce to the BH. Although the bounce was high at the CUP too and Roger handled it. Andy is clearly one of the top 5 talents on tour, Roger just happens to be the top talent. Doesn't mean he has to worry about beating Roger to win slams. My god they can only meet in the semis or finals. They both have to go very far to meet each other and therefore I don't see them meeting each other too often. Mixing it up would help Andy. Coming into net more but if Roger hits a few of those awesome passing shots that would make Andy think twice about coming in more where as Roger will come in a lot not matter what because of his net skills no matter if he gets passed a few times. Andy needs to stay closer to the baseline and attack the backhand and then drive a forehand deep to Roger's forehand side to get some errors from Roger, but that will only get him a few points because Roger will catch on and be ready for it and might unless an awesome short angle forehand winner then. Roger is just the master of mixing it up. I think Andy stays too far back in terms of the baseline and it just gives Roger such an advantage of how he should set up his winner. Andre has tight matches with Roger (except for the last one at Cup) because he can take the ball early and be offensive with it and he doesn't budge from the baseline. Personally I love players who do that, takes a lot of balls to stand your ground, but you have to be so so so good in order to do it. As Andy grows his chances of winning more against Roger increases. I could see an Andy Wimbly win over Roger (yes you read right) Sadly Roger will also be growing too, but I don't see as much growth in him (because seriously how much better can he really get overall) than I do in Andy. Roger's serve will get better and he might do more 2nd serve and volleying too as his volleys get better as well, but other then that I don't see him getting noticable better in a huge way.

Andy I still think is mentally stronger although Roger sure has come a long way. Hell I was sick to death when I saw his Oz draw. :sad: :scared: I never see these two meeting on clay. So that surface will never be a issue.

On a side note. I think David's hold on Roger is slowly disappearing. Nobody came into Oz stronger than David and although Roger played sloppy in that 1st set he still won it. 2nd set was typical seesaw encounter with them two and 3rd set David held in there and won it. 4th set Roger jumped on him early and David just seemed lost and had very little confidence left. Roger was just too patient for him in many of the rallies and the mix up of pace and direction threw david off. Looks like the Cup plan worked yet again.

Andy doesn't need to hammer Roger in order to be number one again. A player can lose number 1 for a variety of reasons. Andy did good at Oz. Hell after Roger beat Hewitt I was content. :bounce:

MisterQ
02-13-2004, 03:52 AM
Q you are the man. Don't forget to pee in his gaterade for effect.

Oh, good idea! That'll finish him off! :lol: