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No rest for Federer: Already thinking about the French Open

oschemi
09-14-2006, 03:36 PM
I hope Rafa is healthy cos it could make for a very interesting year, next year.


No rest for Federer
DPA
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 22:48 IST


NEW YORK: Roger Federer is planning a full slate of autumn tournaments after retaining the world No.1 ranking well in advance for the third year in succession.

The 25-year-old Swiss, who clinched his ninth Grand Slam title and third of the season at the weekend by winning a third straight US Open, will go for national duty in a Davis Cup relegation match next week against Serbia. After that, he will make his Japanese debut in Tokyo before returning to Europe for Masters Series tournaments in Madrid and Paris with his hometown event of Basel sandwiched in between. He then heads the field at November’s season-ending Masters Cup in Shanghai.

Federer celebrated his US Open win with a champion’s tour of the Big Apple on Monday. After a media round table at the Peninsula Hotel, Federer headed to the Rockefeller Centre for a photo shoot at Top of the Rock, taken on the 70th floor overlooking Central Park. Federer’s day in Manhattan also included a street meeting with real-life heroes, New York City firemen and a bird’s eye view of the catwalk for Fashion Week’s Oscar de la Renta show as a guest of Vogue editor-in-chief Anna Wintour. A day earlier, Tiger Woods (a guest of Federer’s in his players’ box), Jim Carrey, Christie Brinkley and Ben Stiller were among a host of celebrities who attended the Open final.

Federer has put together one of the most prolific seasons in history, compiling eight titles and a 70-5 match record in the year with two months remaining. The Swiss is now concentrating on his 2007 initiative to win the French Open after losing the final this season to Rafael Nadal. “This time around, I really believe I can win,” Federer said after his New York title win. “Whereas before, I thought it’s too tough, too long, too hard and everything. I doubted myself from the early rounds on. But now, I know I can win the French, you know? Nadal here or not, I know I could beat him.”


http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1052654

adee-gee
09-14-2006, 04:09 PM
Not gonna happen I'm afraid :awww:

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 04:12 PM
Man, Fed is just being cocky now, being all casual about beating Nadal on clay. Hey why dont you tie your record on HC, before you start talking about beating him on Clay. Please...It seems that Federer's lack of competition (other than from Nadal), is really getting to his head. Tennis now seems to be become more of a "hobby" of some sorts, rather than what it is a sport, and his job.

Although he definelty has the talent to win everything, he ought to lose thesse types of cocky lines. He has still to win 5 more grandslams to tie Pete, he's not the best quite yet. An no, he wont beat Nadal on clay is Nadal is playing well. If Nadal's playing crappy, then yes, he has a shot. But in that matchup in that surface, he's not the favorite. He should get used to that idea.

I didnt watch Sampras, unfortunatley, so I dont know if Sampras had cocky lines like this. Dont get me wrong, Fed is pure class on the court and many times of the court too, but what he says can sometimes be not-classy too. The guy obviously know's he's good, one gets the impression that he wants to say I'm the best.

bokehlicious
09-14-2006, 04:16 PM
Well, saying he thinks he can win the French is being cocky ? :confused:

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 04:21 PM
Well, saying he thinks he can win the French is being cocky ? :confused:

No, saying he dosent care wether Nadal is or is not in the french open, he could beat him, thats cocky.

If Nadal werent in the French, the yes, he could say that, and plus he can add that he probably wont lose a set in the entire tournament..

Sjengster
09-14-2006, 04:22 PM
Man, Fed is just being cocky now, being all casual about beating Nadal on clay. Hey why dont you tie your record on HC, before you start talking about beating him on Clay. Please...It seems that Federer's lack of competition (other than from Nadal), is really getting to his head. Tennis now seems to be become more of a "hobby" of some sorts, rather than what it is a sport, and his job.

Although he definelty has the talent to win everything, he ought to lose thesse types of cocky lines. He has still to win 5 more grandslams to tie Pete, he's not the best quite yet. An no, he wont beat Nadal on clay is Nadal is playing well. If Nadal's playing crappy, then yes, he has a shot. But in that matchup in that surface, he's not the favorite. He should get used to that idea.

I didnt watch Sampras, unfortunatley, so I dont know if Sampras had cocky lines like this. Dont get me wrong, Fed is pure class on the court and many times of the court too, but what he says can sometimes be not-classy too. The guy obviously know's he's good, one gets the impression that he wants to say I'm the best.

"Could" is hardly the same as "will", is it? I am loving this cocky tag that is suddenly developing around Federer, it's a convenient stick to beat him with. Maybe he should just accept here and now that Nadal is always going to beat him every time they meet on clay, right? Heaven forbid that he believe in his chances, though of course everyone else should start doing the exact same thing more often when they play him.

As for implying that tennis is becoming a hobby to him, that's also ludicrous. He's said many times that he loves the sport, he said in his most recent interview that the game was the most important thing for him rather than being famous in America and having endorsements.

prima donna
09-14-2006, 04:22 PM
Man, Fed is just being cocky now, being all casual about beating Nadal on clay. Hey why dont you tie your record on HC, before you start talking about beating him on Clay. Please...It seems that Federer's lack of competition (other than from Nadal), is really getting to his head. Tennis now seems to be become more of a "hobby" of some sorts, rather than what it is a sport, and his job.

Although he definelty has the talent to win everything, he ought to lose thesse types of cocky lines. He has still to win 5 more grandslams to tie Pete, he's not the best quite yet. An no, he wont beat Nadal on clay is Nadal is playing well. If Nadal's playing crappy, then yes, he has a shot. But in that matchup in that surface, he's not the favorite. He should get used to that idea.

I didnt watch Sampras, unfortunatley, so I dont know if Sampras had cocky lines like this. Dont get me wrong, Fed is pure class on the court and many times of the court too, but what he says can sometimes be not-classy too. The guy obviously know's he's good, one gets the impression that he wants to say I'm the best.

Your way of thinking is interesting, a completely different school of thought alltogether that deserves to be separate from any logical or rational ideas. Roger Federer can compete with Rafael Nadal on clay, even at his best. Nadal can't play his best against Roger, for the simple fact that his best tennis is negated by Roger's best tennis, the 2 cancel eachother out. If Roger is playing his best, there's no player in the history of tennis that would be capable of mustering up the strength to play their best tennis.

Secondly, Sampras was quite cocky and still is, why don't you go read his articles and see what he has to see about your boy wonder ? A man in his 30's thinks that he'd hand Rafael Nadal his ass on Grass. Still subscribing to the same irrational logic of thinking or have you come to your senses yet ?

Roger Federer is simply the best tennis player to ever pick up a racquet, of course there's a distinction that needs to be drawn between being labeled "the best tennis player" and "the greatest tennis player" which is why his search for the Roland Garros crown continues and there's no doubt that if he shows up with anything close to his best tennis and exhibits mental strength that he'd be capable of taking anyone off a clay court in less than 5 sets. Including Nadal.

Questions ?

Sjengster
09-14-2006, 04:24 PM
No, saying he dosent care wether Nadal is or is not in the french open, he could beat him, thats cocky.

If Nadal werent in the French, the yes, he could say that, and plus he can add that he probably wont lose a set in the entire tournament..

Uh-huh, because nobody else could even remotely challenge him on clay, right? :silly:

oz_boz
09-14-2006, 04:24 PM
Lafuria, read the article again and comment on what Federer says in it, not what you expect him to say. He has said stupid things ("one-dimensional" blabla) before, but nothing in this interview.

bokehlicious
09-14-2006, 04:25 PM
No, saying he dosent care wether Nadal is or is not in the french open, he could beat him, thats cocky.

Then what is he supposed to say, something like "I'll never win the French as long as "clay god" Nadal is around" ? :confused:

oz_boz
09-14-2006, 04:34 PM
No, saying he dosent care wether Nadal is or is not in the french open, he could beat him, thats cocky.

OK. You seem to believe really hard in Nadal. But even if Federer felt he will have a hard time beating Nadal in RG, he would probably still tell the media he believes in himself, no?

If Nadal werent in the French, the yes, he could say that, and plus he can add that he probably wont lose a set in the entire tournament..

He probably wouldn't say this for many resasons, but you seem to expect him being cocky and don't bother to listen to what he actually says.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 04:35 PM
Your way of thinking is interesting, a completely different school of thought alltogether that deserves to be separate from any logical or rational ideas. Roger Federer can compete with Rafael Nadal on clay, even at his best. Nadal can't play his best against Roger, for the simple fact that his best tennis is negated by Roger's best tennis, the 2 cancel eachother out. If Roger is playing his best, there's no player in the history of tennis that would be capable of mustering up the strength to play their best tennis.

Secondly, Sampras was quite cocky and still is, why don't you go read his articles and see what he has to see about your boy wonder ? A man in his 30's thinks that he'd hand Rafael Nadal his ass on Grass. Still subscribing to the same irrational logic of thinking or have you come to your senses yet ?

Roger Federer is simply the best tennis player to ever pick up a racquet, of course there's a distinction that needs to be drawn between being labeled "the best tennis player" and "the greatest tennis player" which is why his search for the Roland Garros crown continues and there's no doubt that if he shows up with anything close to his best tennis and exhibits mental strength that he'd be capable of taking anyone off a clay court in less than 5 sets. Including Nadal.

Questions ?

Hey, Primma, you are a funny guy, you know that right?

I mean, I have this guy here talking to me about logic. How about Roger beat Nadal on clay at least once, before he starts talking about winning the french, huh?

I mean, Roger played his ass off In Rome, and still lost. And regardless of what you say, Nadal did not play his best clay game on that final. Half of it was due to the fact that Federer playing awsome, the other was that Nadal was missing the passing shots he usually makes.

Who gives a Rats ass about what Sampras says about Nadal. And no, I dont think Sampras now would beat Nadal on grass, the way Nadal played in the Wimbledon. But we were not talking about Grass now were we? I though we were talking bout clay. Why dosent, Sampras say he wasnt to play Nadal on clay. Hmmm, to quote Led Zeppelin in "Stairway to Heaven": "and it makes me wonder..."

What's that crap that Nadal cant play his best tennis against Federer because if Federer plays well, they negate each other? Hey, by that Logic I (and I thought mine was irrational) then Nadal is as good as Roger anywhere.
But hey, not even I, stated that, YOU DID.

I'm not saying Roger can't beat Nadal on clay, he can, and Roger could probably be the one to end Rafa's streak, likewise, Rafa ended Roger Federer's hard court streak. All im saying that if Nadal plays his "A" game on clay, Federer cannot beat him, regardless of what you say. And yes, to rephrase it, if Nadal loses to Federer on clay (im STATING CLAY, NOT HARD, OR GRASS), then Nadal did not play his best game.

Do you have Questions Donna?

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 04:37 PM
OK. You seem to believe really hard in Nadal. But even if Federer felt he will have a hard time beating Nadal in RG, he would probably still tell the media he believes in himself, no?



He probably wouldn't say this for many resasons, but you seem to expect him being cocky and don't bother to listen to what he actually says.

I was being saracstic, sometimes I get angry like that, sorry if you missinterpreted it.

He did'nt say in this article that Nadal gives him trouble on clay. Yes, we already known that. And I'm simply talking about this specific article.

bokehlicious
09-14-2006, 04:39 PM
Is there still a wild card left for the clown contest ? Lafuria deserves one hands down :worship:

vincayou
09-14-2006, 04:40 PM
I don't see how it's cocky. He made the semi and the final. He's in right to think that he can beat Nadal. He got some match point after all and has never been beaten in straight.

Same if Nadal thinks that he can win the other grand slam (...but I doubt that you would find that cocky Lafuria :) )

prima donna
09-14-2006, 04:44 PM
I mean, Roger played his ass off In Rome, and still lost. And regardless of what you say, Nadal did not play his best clay game on that final. Half of it was due to the fact that Federer playing awsome, the other was that Nadal was missing the passing shots he usually makes.
This argument has so many obvious flaws, that I find myself almost psychologically overwhelmed to the point of mere exhaustion, but I'll try to address what I can.

Roger had 2 match points in Roma, but failed to convert (missing 2 easy forehands, that he'd normally never miss) based on this theory, that means that Roger is the true winner, because Nadal missed a few "normal passing shots", in my opinion nothing is normal about Nadal's passing shots, they're risky and low percentage, but that being said probably the only impressive aspect of his game. I don't know how long you've been watching tennis, but guys don't execute all of their passing shots, otherwise there'd be no point in coming to net. It's just too difficult to consistently pass up a great S&Ver such as Federer.


Who gives a Rats ass about what Sampras says about Nadal. And no, I dont think Sampras now would beat Nadal on grass, the way Nadal played in the Wimbledon. But we were not talking about Grass now were we? I though we were talking bout clay. Why dosent, Sampras say he wasnt to play Nadal on clay. Hmmm, to quote Led Zeppelin in "Stairway to Heaven": "and it makes me wonder..."
Then on the same token, who gives a rat ass about how Sampras handled his press conferences when being questioned about the opposition ? You can't just totally dismiss facts as if they were fallacies. That's not the way this game works.


What's that crap that Nadal cant play his best tennis against Federer because if federe rplays well, they negate each other? Hey, by that Logic I (and I thought mine was irrational) then Nadal is as good as Roger anywhere.
But hey, not even I, stated that, YOU DID.
Tennis is a game of match ups, Roger doesn't play a game that allows Nadal to play his best tennis, but of course this is far too complex for you to comprehend.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 04:52 PM
1 )This argument has so many obvious flaws, that I find myself almost psychologically overwhelmed to the point of mere exhaustion, but I'll try to address what I can.


2) Roger had 2 match points in Roma, but failed to convert (missing 2 easy forehands, that he'd normally never miss) based on this theory, that means that Roger is the true winner, because Nadal missed a few "normal passing shots", in my opinion nothing is normal about Nadal's passing shots, they're risky and low percentage, but that being said probably the only impressive aspect of his game. I don't know how long you've been watching tennis, but guys execute all of their passing shots, otherwise there'd be no point in coming to net. It's just too difficult to consistently pass up a great S&Ver such as Federer.

3) Then on the same token, who gives a rat ass about how Sampras handled his press conferences when being questioned about the opposition ? You can't just totally dismiss facts as if they were fallacies. That's not the way this game works.


4)Tennis is a game of match ups, Roger doesn't play a game that allows Nadal to play his best tennis, but of course this is far too complex for you to comprehend.

1) Yeah, it this happens with people that are a little slow. Sorry :sad:


2) Your probably trying to distort what I was saying. Roger lost that match ok. Nadal missed more than Usual. There were passing shots he normally makes that he missed on that day. Roger playe his best clay court game ever and still came out short. And Rome has the faster clay (faster clay than in RG, or Montecarlo)

3) I dunnno why you brought up Sampras in this conversation. I mean, all i said in my originial post is that I didnt know if Sampras was cocky too..

4) Hah, THATS funny, Nadal dosent play his best tennis against Roger, yet he has a 6-2 winning record against him, please.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 04:58 PM
The idiot Fedtards are out in full force in this thread.

Federer is arrogant if he thinks he can win RG, Nadal or no Nadal. I can't wait till he loses the #1 so his arrogance gets cut down a bit.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 05:02 PM
The idiot Fedtards are out in full force in this thread.

LOL!!

prima donna
09-14-2006, 05:03 PM
This argument has so many obvious flaws, that I find myself almost psychologically overwhelmed to the point of mere exhaustion, but I'll try to address what I can.


Roger had 2 match points in Roma, but failed to convert (missing 2 easy forehands, that he'd normally never miss) based on this theory, that means that Roger is the true winner, because Nadal missed a few "normal passing shots", in my opinion nothing is normal about Nadal's passing shots, they're risky and low percentage, but that being said probably the only impressive aspect of his game. I don't know how long you've been watching tennis, but guys execute all of their passing shots, otherwise there'd be no point in coming to net. It's just too difficult to consistently pass up a great S&Ver such as Federer.

Then on the same token, who gives a rat ass about how Sampras handled his press conferences when being questioned about the opposition ? You can't just totally dismiss facts as if they were fallacies. That's not the way this game works.


Tennis is a game of match ups, Roger doesn't play a game that allows Nadal to play his best tennis, but of course this is far too complex for you to comprehend.

Yeah, it this happens with people that are a little slow. Sorry :sad:


Your probably trying to distort what I was saying. Roger last that match ok. Nadal missed more than Usual. There were passing shots he normally makesn that he missed on that day. Roger playe his best clay court game ever and still came out short. And Rome has the faster clay (faster clay than in RG, or Montecarlo)

I dunnno why you brought up Sampras in this conversation. I mean, all i said in my originial post is that I didnt know if Sampras was cocky too..

Hah, THATS funny, Nadal dosent play his best tennis against Roger, yet he has a 6-2 winning record against him, please.

The issue thus far have been Federer's mental problems against Nadal. After Roger winning his 3rd GS of the year, you have a heavy dosage of reality coming.

1). The clowns that the boy from Mallorca smacks around on clay have no idea what they're doing, so all in all, his streak isn't that impressive.
2). I'm almost certain that Federer is the best player on all surfaces, his problem is finding the mental strength to prove it, which would require a thorough demonstration of good old fashioned mental toughness.

Unlike the majority of people here, I have no fear of coming out and saying what I think. Also, what would be considered Nadal's best tennis ? A moonball that jumps 15 feet over your head, as opposed to one that only lands 13 feet over ?

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 05:07 PM
The issue thus far have been Federer's mental problems against Nadal. After Roger winning his 3rd GS in a row, you have a heavy dosage of reality coming.

1). The clowns that the boy from Mallorca smacks around on clay have no idea what they're doing, so all in all, his streak isn't that impressive.
2). I'm almost certain that Federer is the best player on all surfaces, his problem is finding the mental strength to prove it, which would require a thorough demonstration of good old fashioned mental toughness.

Unlike the majority of people here, I have no fear of coming out and saying what I think. Also, what would be considered Nadal's best tennis ? A moonball that jumps 15 feet over your head, as opposed to one that only lands 13 feet over ?

Ooo, Primma, your losing your edge. Starting to insult Nadal, and calling him a moonballer, isnt really of a logical nature? So, again, using your logic, If Federer and Nadal cancel each other out (lets say on clay this time, let signore the HC record too), then Federer tennis is about as good as Nadal's moonballing. I happen to find him fun to watch.

"Almost Certain". So Federer's 6 losses to Nadal have gotten to you huh? Showing a little doubt there. If there is one thing Federer will never be, is mentally tougher than Nadal, sorry, cant give you that one.

Castafiore
09-14-2006, 05:08 PM
I The Swiss is now concentrating on his 2007 initiative to win the French Open after losing the final this season to Rafael Nadal. “This time around, I really believe I can win,” Federer said after his New York title win. “Whereas before, I thought it’s too tough, too long, too hard and everything. I doubted myself from the early rounds on. But now, I know I can win the French, you know? Nadal here or not, I know I could beat him.”

:scratch: Didn't he say just about the same thing for the 2006 clay court season and before RG 2006?


It's fine by me if Roger is confident about winning RG. We'll see what happens.

R.Federer
09-14-2006, 05:09 PM
It's so early to concentrate on the French. I hope he doesn't lose sight of the other big tournaments prior to that (most of which he's probably defending a win or final).


Talking about it so early, on the one hand it's impressive that he has his sights on the history books. On the other hand, I hope it does not become an obsession with him because that could work against him. Good luck to Roger's winning the French in 07 (or any time!)

Castafiore
09-14-2006, 05:11 PM
Ooo, Primma, your losing your edge. Starting to insult Nadal, and calling him a moonballer, isnt really of a logical nature.
:secret: Welcome to the wonderful world of Prima Donna. He's been saying lovely things about Nadal from the beginning. Once you've read one post, you've read them all.

El Legenda
09-14-2006, 05:11 PM
Nadal will never be as good as Roger :wavey:

prima donna
09-14-2006, 05:12 PM
Ooo, Primma, your losing your edge. Starting to insult Nadal, and calling him a moonballer, isnt really of a logical nature? So, again, using your logic, If Federer and Nadal cancel each other out (lets say on clay this time, let signore the HC record too), then Federer tennis is about as good as Nadal's moonballing. I happen to find him fun to watch.

"Almost Certain". So Federer's 6 losses to Nadal have gotten to you huh? Showing a little doubt there. If there is one thing Federer will never be, is mentally tougher than Nadal, sorry, cant give you that one.

Believe me, I'd love it if I could say the same thing about you ( you're losing your edge ), but there never was an edge to begin with.

Insulting Nadal ? Nadal's game is elementary stuff, nothing new here. Contrary to popular belief, the hatred for Nadal doesn't stem from his domination of Roger, but comes rather as a result of his horrendous game.

You don't hear the same things being said about Safin, Berdych or Gasquet. 3 guys that've beaten Roger. It's inevitable that Roger conquer his fear of having a 30 foot moonball sent sailing to his backhand side 200 times within a period of 140 minutes. Concern yourself with mediocre tennis players that can't cut it outside of 1 surface without the help of easy draws.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 05:13 PM
Ljubibitch will never be as good as Nadal :wavey:

Andre♥
09-14-2006, 05:15 PM
Some people think that Federer has no chance of winning RG because he never beated Nadal on clay.

But the same people who think this, think that Nadal can win the AO when his best result on a hardcourt GS is a quarter final...

Logic, where are you when we need you...

bokehlicious
09-14-2006, 05:16 PM
:secret: Welcome to the wonderful world of Prima Donna. He's been saying lovely things about Nadal from the beginning. Once you've read one post, you've read them all but it keeps being fun to read it because he never fails to amaze me in his neverending appreciation for that "moonballer".
:)

True. He never changed his mind about Nadal's game. He started labelling Nadal a moonballer last year already, so their current h-h has nothing to do with his opinion.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Believe me, I'd love it if I could say the same thing about you ( you're losing your edge ), but there never was an edge to begin with.

Insulting Nadal ? Nadal's game is elementary stuff, nothing new here. Contrary to popular belief, the hatred for Nadal doesn't stem from his domination of Roger, but comes rather as a result of his horrendous game.

You don't hear the same things being said about Safin, Berdych or Gasquet. 3 guys that've beaten Roger. It's inevitable that Roger conquer his fear of having a 30 foot moonball sent sailing to his backhand side 200 times within a period of 140 minutes. Concern yourself with mediocre tennis players that can't cut it outside of 1 surface without the help of easy draws.

Yeah, you are a Judge of what is a beautiful game. :rolleyes:

But hey, does it really Matter how you play if you can beat Roger consistently? 6 times. Again 6 times.

Mediocre tennis can lead you to the #2 spot, not bad huh?



Yeah, keep talking about the easy draw crap, you'll just keep reapting that crap over and over again. Again no logic is being used here. He's beaten Agassi, Ljubicic, Haas, Federer, PHM, Henman. Yeah, you go right ahead and say "OMG, your mentioning x player. X sucks on HC". Yeah, you keep repeating that. Whatever, most people know you talk a load of bull anyway.

El Legenda
09-14-2006, 05:19 PM
Ljubibitch will never be as good as Nadal :wavey:

i agree and accept that..but i think its killing you inside that Nadal will never come close to Roger

:wavey:

Corey Feldman
09-14-2006, 05:21 PM
always nice to unearth another arseclown that has been lurking around for a while, Lafuria.

anyhow, what are the chances Fed plays all those events (Tokyo-Madrid-Basel-Paris-TMC)? id say we'd be lucky if he plays 3 of them... barring shock early defeats.

scoobs
09-14-2006, 05:26 PM
Much as I love Roger, if I were him, I'd shut up about beating Nadal on clay until I'd actually done it. Given he's 0 for 4 in that particular matchup, he should give it a rest until the racquet has improved that stat.

Also I see no need to be talking about the European clay in mid-September when he won't be back on it until April.

He should give it a rest and worry about sorting his H2H against Rafa out this fall if they should meet in any finals and leave the French until next year.

Skyward
09-14-2006, 05:44 PM
Much as I love Roger, if I were him, I'd shut up about beating Nadal on clay until I'd actually done it. Given he's 0 for 4 in that particular matchup, he should give it a rest until the racquet has improved that stat.

Also I see no need to be talking about the European clay in mid-September when he won't be back on it until April.

He should give it a rest and worry about sorting his H2H against Rafa out this fall if they should meet in any finals and leave the French until next year.


They asked him.


Q. Next year, say two Slams for Roland Garros, or five Masters Series for...

ROGER FEDERER: I think you always ask me questions like about the French, try to put me...

Q. He likes that.

ROGER FEDERER: He likes that, huh? I always say the same thing, you know. Wimbledon counts more for me.

Q. At this point?

ROGER FEDERER: Look, I don't know. It's like so nice to win the US Open, so why would I want to try for the French?

Q. To prove that on clay you're the best.

ROGER FEDERER: I know I'm good on clay.

Q. You are the best.

ROGER FEDERER: Not the best at the moment, yeah. But if Raf wouldn't be in a round, maybe I would have won it by now.

No, I don't know. All I can try to do is give myself the best chance, you know? That's what I've been doing really the last especially two or three years. And before that, I just was not good enough, I think. I lost early a few times.

This time around, I really believe I can win, you know. Whereas before, I thought it's too tough, too long, too hard and everything. I doubted myself from the early rounds on.
But now, being so dominant in all the other Slams, I know I can win the French, you know. Nadal here or not, I know I could beat him, too, because I was so close.

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2006-09-10/200609101157954129890.html

mangoes
09-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Man, Fed is just being cocky now, being all casual about beating Nadal on clay. Hey why dont you tie your record on HC, before you start talking about beating him on Clay. Please...It seems that Federer's lack of competition (other than from Nadal), is really getting to his head. Tennis now seems to be become more of a "hobby" of some sorts, rather than what it is a sport, and his job.

Although he definelty has the talent to win everything, he ought to lose thesse types of cocky lines. He has still to win 5 more grandslams to tie Pete, he's not the best quite yet. An no, he wont beat Nadal on clay is Nadal is playing well. If Nadal's playing crappy, then yes, he has a shot. But in that matchup in that surface, he's not the favorite. He should get used to that idea.

I didnt watch Sampras, unfortunatley, so I dont know if Sampras had cocky lines like this. Dont get me wrong, Fed is pure class on the court and many times of the court too, but what he says can sometimes be not-classy too. The guy obviously know's he's good, one gets the impression that he wants to say I'm the best.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

PamV
09-14-2006, 05:50 PM
Not gonna happen I'm afraid :awww:

I think it can happen. His horoscope chart was bad for the final in 2006. 2007 might be better.

Bagelicious
09-14-2006, 05:52 PM
Cocky Fed! :drool: :hearts:

All this seems like a storm in a teacup, especially when you look at the original quote. OhmygodFedactuallyhastheaudacitytothinkhecanwinRGO MGOMGOMGLOLLERSKATEZ!

Please. :rolleyes:

ibcnum
09-14-2006, 06:00 PM
They asked him.


Q. Next year, say two Slams for Roland Garros, or five Masters Series for...

ROGER FEDERER: I think you always ask me questions like about the French, try to put me...

Q. He likes that.

ROGER FEDERER: He likes that, huh? I always say the same thing, you know. Wimbledon counts more for me.

Q. At this point?

ROGER FEDERER: Look, I don't know. It's like so nice to win the US Open, so why would I want to try for the French?

Q. To prove that on clay you're the best.

ROGER FEDERER: I know I'm good on clay.

Q. You are the best.

ROGER FEDERER: Not the best at the moment, yeah. But if Raf wouldn't be in a round, maybe I would have won it by now.

No, I don't know. All I can try to do is give myself the best chance, you know? That's what I've been doing really the last especially two or three years. And before that, I just was not good enough, I think. I lost early a few times.

This time around, I really believe I can win, you know. Whereas before, I thought it's too tough, too long, too hard and everything. I doubted myself from the early rounds on.
But now, being so dominant in all the other Slams, I know I can win the French, you know. Nadal here or not, I know I could beat him, too, because I was so close.

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2006-09-10/200609101157954129890.html


Funny how you could twist as innocent of an interview as this into something outrageous as Fed being cocky...all hail to the powers of misused quotes :worship:

adee-gee
09-14-2006, 06:01 PM
Questions ?
Yes. Why are all your posts so long? :scratch:

scoobs
09-14-2006, 06:03 PM
I know they asked him - as usual he lets himself get drawn into these discussions - he could just say "I'm confident about the French but that's a long way off so..." but instead he gets drawn into saying "yeah I can beat Raf on clay because I was so close", in effect.

As I say, I think he'd be better off doing it rather than saying he can do it, because 0 for 4, only one of them going to 5 sets, isn't exactly suggestive he's got it figured out yet.

And I love the way he calls him "Raf" - that's adorable.

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:04 PM
Making something out of nothing.

lafuria, you are lucky there has been a withdrawal and you have made the main draw.

adee-gee
09-14-2006, 06:07 PM
I think it can happen. His horoscope chart was bad for the final in 2006. 2007 might be better.
:haha: you Fedtards have got so desperate about Roger beating Rafa that you're turning to horoscopes? :spit:

jacobhiggins
09-14-2006, 06:08 PM
Yeah, you are a Judge of what is a beautiful game. :rolleyes:

But hey, does it really Matter how you play if you can beat Roger consistently? 6 times. Again 6 times.

Mediocre tennis can lead you to the #2 spot, not bad huh?



Yeah, keep talking about the easy draw crap, you'll just keep reapting that crap over and over again. Again no logic is being used here. He's beaten Agassi, Ljubicic, Haas, Federer, PHM, Henman. Yeah, you go right ahead and say "OMG, your mentioning x player. X sucks on HC". Yeah, you keep repeating that. Whatever, most people know you talk a load of bull anyway.


Dude, your just digging a hole for yourself. I'd suggest you think before you post next time!

Pigpen Stinks
09-14-2006, 06:18 PM
There's a lot of bitch slapping going on in this thread. Feels like I'm at a pro wrestling match, or cat fight.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:20 PM
Whatever, put me in the arse clown thing. I dont know why they call me a tard, all ive said is that I dont think federer can beat Nadal on clay if Nadal plays his A game. if you look at all my other posts you'll see that i have the utmost respect for Federer, and I always am saying he is potentially the best player ever.

I just think Federer has cocky lines at times. And mind you, I think being cocky is good, if you earned the right to be cocky, federer almost always has that right, and even though he can be cocky he USUALLY ISNT.

But in this specific case, I believe Federer ought to be Nadal on clay to then be able to say "I should be able to win the french regardless of Nadal".

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:21 PM
There's a lot of bitch slapping going on in this thread. Feels like I'm at a pro wrestling match, or cat fight.

Fed would win if it was wrestling, cause he is a fan of the Rock and I could imagine doing the eyebrow and the "Wimbledon" elbow.

Corey Feldman
09-14-2006, 06:22 PM
lafuria, you are lucky there has been a withdrawal and you have made the main draw.Bamos

:haha: you Fedtards have got so desperate about Roger beating Rafa that you're turning to horoscopes? :spit:Dont be doubting the power of the stars alligning :p

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:23 PM
Al right I gotta ask, what happens if you win this tournament?

do you become the ultimate arse clown...please...

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 06:26 PM
Federer should be the new swiss miss. He sure plays like it. :D

adee-gee
09-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Al right I gotta ask, what happens if you win this tournament?

do you become the ultimate arse clown...please...
You won't win, you and Rafa=Fed Killa are just poor versions of me :)

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:29 PM
Al right I gotta ask, what happens if you win this tournament?

do you become the ultimate arse clown...please...

As annoying as you are. The competition is huge in this contest.

You get to endorse this product.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/assclown2520cereal.jpg

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:29 PM
You won't win, you and Rafa=Fed Killa are just poor versions of me :)

Im trying to be objective, I speak based on stats. Im not gonna say, Rafa will become #1 next year for sure. or that Federer sucks. It is not based on any form of logic.

But hey, if you want to win that thing...go ahead, ill be sure to lose in the 1st round, alright ;)

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:30 PM
As annoying as you are. The competition is huge in this contest.

You get to endorse this product.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/assclown2520cereal.jpg

Alright Mr. Logic, what have I said that makes no sense?

Naranoc
09-14-2006, 06:33 PM
I don't really care about Federer anymore to be honest. half the threads in GM have been 'Federer wants to do this', 'Is Federer the greatest' blah blah, and I'm just gagging for a change of topic. Until he beats Nadal once on Clay, then he can start talking about the French. And yes, Nadal has sucked recently, but that doesn't mean to say he won't bounce back, particularly on his favourite surface.

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:34 PM
Alright Mr. Logic, what have I said that makes no sense?

You haven't been objective ever since you started posting here. At least most of the people in this thread, they are over the top biased and admit to it.

Federer said nothing that was arrogant in the original article, so he wants to win RG, good for him, doesn't mean he is going to do it. You are someone who thinks Nadal is already the greatest claycourt player of all time, therefore I can't take you seriously.

LLeytonRules
09-14-2006, 06:40 PM
I cant wait for next year, Fed's early masters preparation will be a factor.I think he can hang with Nadal but he needs to believe it himself!

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:40 PM
You haven't been objective ever since you started posting here. At least most of the people in this thread, they are over the top biased and admit to it.

Federer said nothing that was arrogant in the original article, so he wants to win RG, good for him, doesn't mean he is going to do it. You are someone who thinks Nadal is already the greatest claycourt player of all time, therefore I can't take you seriously.

Nadal is on the way to becoming the greateest clay courter. Yes, Borg, Kuerten are better, but Nadals numbers in two years are amazing. Yes, he could get injured, and yes he could burn out and fail to become the greatest clay courter.

But as things have gone so far, the 4 matches Fed and Nadal have played on clay have all been one by Nadal.

Once Federer has beaten Nadal on clay (if he beats him), then he can talk.

I didnt read the entire article, thus i migh have taken his quote out of context.

The way it is put in the original article, with the bold and everything seems quite arrogant in my opinion.

sorry if i overreacted. But as soon as people like Primma start talking nonsense, i get a little angry.

Corey Feldman
09-14-2006, 06:42 PM
As annoying as you are. The competition is huge in this contest.

You get to endorse this product.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/assclown2520cereal.jpg:haha:
so much better than my brown Uzbekistan sponsored robe i'll be wearing going into my arseclown matches
:(

NYCtennisfan
09-14-2006, 06:46 PM
Federer has been preparing for Roland Garros 2007 for a while now. His game has changed a bit. He is hitting more with the BH, he is throwing in one-two combos with the serve-Bh, he is hitting winners off of high BH's he is being more aggressive with the BH returns and the FH returns. He knows he needs at least one RG to eventually put away any dobut as to who is th greatest and now Federer has all kinds of confidence.

By the way, anybody who achieves what Woods or Federer or Sampras or Graf or Schumacher will inevitably be "cocky". Federer has all the reason in the world to be cocky but he doesn't show it on court. He could be rubbing it in to everybody, but even his demeanor on court is subdued.

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:47 PM
Nadal is on the way to becoming the greateest clay courter. Yes, Borg, Kuerten are better, but Nadals numbers in two years are amazing. Yes, he could get injured, and yes he could burn out and fail to become the greatest clay courter.

But as things have gone so far, the 4 matches Fed and Nadal have played on clay have all been one by Nadal.

Once Federer has beaten Nadal on clay (if he beats him), then he can talk.

I didnt read the entire article, thus i migh have taken his quote out of context.

The way it is put in the original article, with the bold and everything seems quite arrogant in my opinion.

Kuerten isn't even the 2nd greatest clay player, keep trying and he is not the greatest clay courter or close to it.

No shit that Nadal has won all the matches on clay, that is not exactly surprising is it? It'd be the same vice versa on grass.

Facts are Federer is not going to say I can't beat the guy in the media is he? If he does that, he might as stay in the hotel room and have hot monkey love with Mirka.

Try reading the original article in full, it won't hurt.

NYCtennisfan
09-14-2006, 06:49 PM
Fed would win if it was wrestling, cause he is a fan of the Rock and I could imagine doing the eyebrow and the "Wimbledon" elbow.

:haha: The Rock has been making movies lately. They are :eek: bad.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:51 PM
Kuerten isn't even the 2nd greatest clay player, keep trying and he is not the greatest clay courter or close to it.

No shit that Nadal has won all the matches on clay, that is not exactly surprising is it? It'd be the same vice versa on grass.

Facts are Federer is not going to say I can't beat the guy in the media is he? If he does that, he might as stay in the hotel room and have hot monkey love with Mirka.

Try reading the original article in full, it won't hurt.

Alright. Thats true, I rushed in with my response.

But Federer could have said, "He's been gving me trouble on clay latley, but i've been really close, next time, I think I can beat him"

Even Federer said after the RG final that nadal "is probably the best clay courter of all time".

The thing is that I find it a bit arrogant if Federer says "it dosent matter that Nadal is in the tournament or not" because it should matter as Nadal has beaten him on clay various times.

Corey Feldman
09-14-2006, 06:54 PM
Roger and Rafa should make some kinda pact/deal ... rafa lets Fed win RG and then Fed lets rafa win Wimbledon, course when rafa has done his part Fed reneges on it at Wimbledon :devil:

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 06:55 PM
Origanlly posted by adee-gee
You won't win, you and Rafa=Fed Killa are just poor versions of me

Me a poor version of you. You must be dreaming. We'll let the Fedtards decide.

Quality posts beat Quantinty posts.

Action Jackson
09-14-2006, 06:55 PM
Alright. Thats true, I rushed in with my response.

But Federer could have said, "He's been gving me trouble on clay latley, but i've been really close, next time, I think I can beat him"

Even Federer said after the RG final that nadal "is probably the best clay courter of all time".

The thing is that I find it a bit arrogant if Federer says "it dosent matter that Nadal is in the tournament or not" because it should matter as Nadal has beaten him on clay various times.

It shoudn't matter who is in the tournament or the other side of the net. The facts are the ball is round and yellow and they have it over the net and in between a set of lines to the best of their ability.

It's not like he is #1001 in world called Jean-Marc Fondue who should be happy to win a game, it doesn't matter he has to beat what is in front of him.

Federer couldn't beat some top claycourt players when they were past their best, let alone Nadal. As I said that is the reason I won't take it seriously at this point in time Nadal is not the greatest clay court player and Federer is not the greatest ever player either.

Pfloyd
09-14-2006, 06:57 PM
It shoudn't matter who is in the tournament or the other side of the net. The facts are the ball is round and yellow and they have it over the net and in between a set of lines to the best of their ability.

It's not like he is #1001 in world called Jean-Marc Fondue who should be happy to win a game, it doesn't matter he has to beat what is in front of him.

Federer couldn't beat some top claycourt players when they were past their best, let alone Nadal. As I said that is the reason I won't take it seriously at this point in time Nadal is not the greatest clay court player and Federer is not the greatest ever player either.

Fair enough. :)

Rogiman
09-14-2006, 06:57 PM
Me a poor version of you. You must be dreaming. We'll let the Fedtards decide.

Quality posts beat Quantinty posts.
You win :hug:

Just stop posting in Fed's foum, will ya? ;)

Corey Feldman
09-14-2006, 07:00 PM
Fair enough. :)Oh sure... now that he said Fed isnt the greatest of all time... we get a happy smile out of you

:lol:

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 07:12 PM
Just stop posting in Fed's foum, will ya?

Nah, its too much fun riling up the more insane Fedtards. :D

Rogiman
09-14-2006, 07:21 PM
Nah, its too much fun riling up the more insane Fedtards. :D
Seriously, dude, we don't do it so don't do it either, that's a line that is not supposed to be crossed, unless one of us wants to congratulate the other for his fav's victory.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 07:28 PM
Wow I didn't know you were that sensitive RonE :eek:

Alright, I'll knock it off in the Fed forum.
I can piss them off on MTF :D

RonE
09-14-2006, 08:32 PM
Wow I didn't know you were that sensitive RonE :eek:



Nice try. But while me and Rogiman may be joined at the brain we are still very much two seperate individual entities ;)

cmurray
09-14-2006, 09:20 PM
I don't have a problem with Fed saying he's sure he can beat Rafa. He's a competitor and that's what they're supposed to say, what they're supposed to think. Otherwise, why bother to compete at all? He has to think that, doesn't he?

My problem with Rogi is when he personally insults Nadal and his game (one-dimensional, not a threat). The statement in this article is nothing more or less than I would expect of any top player. Granted, a guy like Rafa would have said, "Beating Roger at Wimbledon, it's the hardest thing, no? I gonna try play my best tennis, no?"

As much as Roger annoys me at times, I don't think he said anything wrong with this one.

kronus12
09-14-2006, 09:23 PM
geez look at these tossers rafa = fed killa, adee gee, lafuria going on about how fedtards are insane with their posts, you guys a sooooo boody delusional it quite pathetic. I should add your other gay boyfriend tangerine in there too. Never seen haters of a player like these girls, you girls got nothing better to do then then to insult are player better then your mudballer Nadal?
What wrong with fed saying that he can win the open even if nadal is playing?
A lot of champions have always said things that border on arrongants such as Michael Jordan, Schumacher, Bond , Joe Montana etc.
It just being confident in their game and their ability to raise it to another level.
And if you tossers don't agree who cares its not like roger gives a shit what you say about it.

All_Slam_Andre
09-14-2006, 10:23 PM
Did Federer say anything wrong in this interview? Absolutely not. Are those people who are desperately trying to use this interview to have another tedious go at him, complete losers? Absolutely.

Pea
09-14-2006, 10:46 PM
Could this be moved in Rafa's forum?:scratch:

Ceri
09-14-2006, 10:51 PM
Did Federer say anything wrong in this interview? Absolutely not. Are those people who are desperately trying to use this interview to have another tedious go at him, complete losers? Absolutely.
Exactly. He has the game, the wins, the slams, to deserve to be confident about his chances. If he does win the french next year, the year after, whatever, it'll be a happy day for this board. Maybe we should declare it a MTF holiday. Because we won't see many sad, attention-seeking sensationalists that day. They'll be too busy cowering behind their adult-size Rafa posters and crying into their capri shorts. ;) Don't get me wrong, I don't mind Nadal. But I do dislike many of the posters who slate Fed because of their blind appreciation of the No2. And conversely, I'm not a huge fan of Federer's, but I can appreciate his game. When it's on, he's stunning and reminds me why I love to watch tennis, as I'm sure it does for many others. But Federer fans, don't get dispirited or angry with the haters. Just wait for Fed to prove them wrong. If he does, he really does deserve to be called the greatest ever.

adee-gee
09-14-2006, 11:12 PM
Roger and Rafa should make some kinda pact/deal ... rafa lets Fed win RG and then Fed lets rafa win Wimbledon, course when rafa has done his part Fed reneges on it at Wimbledon :devil:
Rafa tried to let Roger win in Rome, and he still couldn't :p

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-14-2006, 11:27 PM
Maybe if Rafa blindfolds himself, Fed might be able to win RG.

The greatest clay court player of all time wont lose to the wannabe GOAT :D