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Just Cause
09-13-2006, 10:03 PM
I just find it amazing how Davydenko decided to play three days after losing to Federer in New York, not to mention about getting on a plane and having to adjust to China time. AND THE FOOD:). He truly is working hard on his titles and rankings. He also has more wins than any other top 10 players other than Federer. Even though he has no Master or Slam win, I still like his efforts.

I just want to ask do you like his work ethics or do you think a talent of Safin can get you through life, not being too philosophical about it. I mean, Safin has a lot of talents and accomplished a lot, but I like Davydenko more even though Safin is better looking and more popular.

Conita
09-13-2006, 10:31 PM
obviously his hard work
it makes me laugh when people say he doesnt deserve to be in the top 10
when he goes to an incredible amount of tourneys and he also manages to get a decent run at GS.
He works soo hard to be were he is, he deserves every little point and position in the rankings :)

musefanatic
09-13-2006, 10:34 PM
I agree, his hard work is a lot to do with it, kinda like at school. Some people are just exceptionally gifted whereas others have to work very hard at it :)

Conita
09-13-2006, 10:52 PM
I agree, his hard work is a lot to do with it, kinda like at school. Some people are just exceptionally gifted whereas others have to work very hard at it :)


agreed! :yeah:

TenHound
09-14-2006, 01:50 AM
He carries on the Lendl tradition, albeit w/less size & perhaps ability.

ServeAlready81
09-14-2006, 04:49 AM
Hard work of course, but you'd have to be SOMEWHAT talented to get where he's gotten. Yeah, he's probably the least talented of the top ten :tape: but he's still gifted with a mind and body for tennis ;)

Just Cause
10-15-2006, 02:47 PM
Beat Safin again on his home soil (more so than Safin). I think this is the perfeect exapmle of hard work over talent:).

stebs
10-15-2006, 02:54 PM
He is talented but not exceptional. His work ethic is great to see.

mer
10-15-2006, 02:58 PM
Beat Safin again on his home soil (more so than Safin). I think this is the perfeect exapmle of hard work over talent:).
I don't want to take anything from Kolya, he's a great player and totally deserves his place in top 10 but beating Safin this year is not the best prove of anything. Did you all forget who did beat Marat this year? :tape: Win over Safin doesn't mean as much nowdays.
As for home soil it never helped Marat, it's the first time he got to finals in Moscow.

Sjengster
10-15-2006, 03:00 PM
Am I alone in thinking it wasn't particularly admirable to fly halfway round the world to play a small event and withdraw after two rounds, then have to fly almost halfway round the world again to prepare for DC and then be unable to play because of illness, most likely brought on by all that travelling? He plays too many events, and I'm not sure whether a Top 10 player should be labouring hard to win Sopot and then losing first round at both Toronto and Cincinnati the following two weeks.

That said, he deserves tremendous credit for his exceptional Slam results - three QFs and two SFs in the space of only two years - and he's earnt every tournament win, that's for sure. Besides, you can't look at the stats that show he leads in almost every return category and say that he isn't talented in at least one area of the game.

alfonsojose
10-15-2006, 03:08 PM
Like he has no talents :rolleyes: Better 1 Kolya than 1000 "i'm so :cool:" Safins, 500 "Unicef-Prada" Federers and 100 "Doping Bull" Nadals

stebs
10-15-2006, 03:09 PM
Am I alone in thinking it wasn't particularly admirable to fly halfway round the world to play a small event and withdraw after two rounds, then have to fly almost halfway round the world again to prepare for DC and then be unable to play because of illness, most likely brought on by all that travelling? He plays too many events, and I'm not sure whether a Top 10 player should be labouring hard to win Sopot and then losing first round at both Toronto and Cincinnati the following two weeks.

That said, he deserves tremendous credit for his exceptional Slam results - three QFs and two SFs in the space of only two years - and he's earnt every tournament win, that's for sure. Besides, you can't look at the stats that show he leads in almost every return category and say that he isn't talented in at least one area of the game.

I agree. I feel that people seem to assume people with more personality have more talent. An example is Andy Murray. He has played a lot of great players in his short career and he said the set Davydenko played when he bagelled him at the US Open this year was the best anyone has ever played against him. It is a different type of talent, just because he isn't bashing winners from everywhere doesn't mean he isn't talented. He is one of the best returners in the game along with Ferrer, Federer, Nadal, Hewitt, Murray and Nalbandian.

Adler
10-15-2006, 03:15 PM
500 "Unicef-Prada" Federers and 100 "Doping Bull" Nadals
what's wrong with doing sth for UNICEF?
any proofs showing that Nadal takes illegal drugs?

Sjengster
10-15-2006, 03:23 PM
alfie's attempt to champion the solid integrity of Kolya is rather undone by the doping accusation against Nadal, I agree.

Monteque
10-15-2006, 03:54 PM
This guy just enough crazy to net as many as tournies and matches he could do in a year. Only Federer has more games than him.

I respect him so much for his hard-working also he has talent although his style is some kind of boring because lack of emotion and aggresiveness. Surely you should have a talent to break the top ten in the world, and this guy mix it with working like a hell :devil:

Leo
10-15-2006, 04:40 PM
His talent is still cruelly underrated. Not many players can hit the ball as hard as he does with as much accuracy. He really has incredible talent for hitting the ball cleanly and powerfully from the baseline. Not even Nalbandian can do it as consistently these days, and we saw Safin inferior in that regard today as well.

There are a lot of other people who work just as hard as Davydenko, put in the same hours of practice, drills, etc. but they just don't have the same results. So I would say it's his talent that makes Nikolay stand out.

Leo
10-15-2006, 05:01 PM
I respect him so much for his hard-working also he has talent although his style is some kind of boring because lack of emotion and aggresiveness. Surely you should have a talent to break the top ten in the world, and this guy mix it with working like a hell :devil:

Davydenko has plenty of aggression, actually. Usually he loses matches when he's overly aggressive and doesn't wait for the right moment.