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Canas returns with a win

Jorbaty
09-13-2006, 03:01 AM
Defeated Johnathan Medina of Venezuela 6-0 6-2 in his comeback and will face Marcos Daniel (1) on Wednesday night. Caņas was leading 6-0 5-0 and had one match point, but lost his serve. "I started to think about what had happened in the last months, but it's normal", he said.

alelysafina
09-13-2006, 03:03 AM
where?

Jorbaty
09-13-2006, 03:06 AM
Belem challenger, in Brazil (clay)

where?

Hendu
09-13-2006, 03:11 AM
He is in his way back to the top.

Vamos Willy!!!

croat123
09-13-2006, 03:17 AM
cheater

Hendu
09-13-2006, 03:19 AM
cheater

good to know you know a lot about his case. ;)

Sutti
09-13-2006, 03:45 AM
Well done Fighter!!!

disturb3d
09-13-2006, 03:50 AM
I have nothing against him using drugs. Cuz every respected sportsperson uses them.

But his tennis and personality are a total joke.
At one point in RG. He got so shit scared of losing a point, he resorted to hitting a ball that was still on the opponent's side of the court.

Hendu
09-13-2006, 03:58 AM
I have nothing against him using drugs. Cuz every respected sportsperson uses them.

But his tennis and personality are a total joke.
At one point in RG. He got so shit scared of losing a point, he resorted to hitting a ball that was still on the opponent's side of the court.

well it seems a lot of people doesn't know about his case. ;)

LaTenista
09-13-2006, 05:12 AM
:woohoo: Vamos Willy!

Clara Bow
09-13-2006, 05:35 AM
well it seems a lot of people doesn't know about his case. ;)

I read the ruling that was posted here a while ago- but since I only have so much brain space- can only recall bits and pieces. But didn't they find that essentially he was not at fault, was not trying to cheat, and was taking medicine for an illness that he didn't know had banned ingredients. Granted, you can never be too careful, but from reading his case, it seems like there was no intent to cheat, and the powers that be decided as much.

diegogg
09-13-2006, 06:31 AM
Come on Willy!!! Fuck the haters!!! Fucking ignorant pieces of shit!!!

alelysafina
09-13-2006, 06:47 AM
Belem challenger, in Brazil (clay)

Thanks :)

YAY Willie!! :yeah:

marcelwks
09-13-2006, 10:00 AM
vamos Willy !

Nathaliia
09-13-2006, 11:50 AM
Vamos of course :) It is not the first time he has to come back from such a deep bottom. Fingers crossed for him.

Pigpen Stinks
09-13-2006, 12:35 PM
Generally speaking, I have no sympathy for drug cheats in sports. 99% of them claim they are innocent, and I truly believe that 99% of them are guilty. Admittedly though, tennis' standards are so strict that it seems there have been a few cases where they have lynched some guys mistakenly.

I was surprised when Canas got busted. I don't know any pro tennis players, and even if I did, you never know what a person may or may not do. However, as a fan you form an opinion on a player by the way they conduct themselves, and oftentimes, just by the way they look in general. Certainly doesn't mean it's accurate, but it's just human nature. I always thought Canas seemed like a hard working, earnest type of guy. So, in that respect, I hope the doping penalty was a misunderstanding, and wish him luck in his return.

Now, as for Floyd Landis, don't even get me started.... :mad:

ASP0315
09-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Great win Willy. :)

Action Jackson
09-13-2006, 12:46 PM
Not in doubt and good to see him back and I can post the case findings again. Basically it was proven that there was no intention to cheat by the CAS, hence this is why his suspension was reduced.

s.m.
09-13-2006, 01:54 PM
canas is tainted
forever

Hendu
09-13-2006, 01:57 PM
canas is tainted
forever

aren't Croatians in MTF lovely?

I think so.

CooCooCachoo
09-13-2006, 02:05 PM
Good luck Marcos ;)

Welcome back Guillermo. Always was a great fighter.

guille&tati4life
09-13-2006, 02:24 PM
Good to see Canas back and winning again :)

s.m.
09-13-2006, 02:35 PM
aren't Croatians in MTF lovely?

I think so.

what does a nation have to do with anything ?
donīt go that low
show the spine if you have it

and i didnīt talk about my opinion only
that will be the perception
deal with it
coria is a doper, chela is a doper, puerta is a doper, koubek is a doper
f*** it

Hendu
09-13-2006, 02:41 PM
what does a nation have to do with anything ?
donīt go that low
show the spine if you have it

The nation has nothing to do with it. I would love to visit Croatia for its beauties and its people.

Now, many (not all) the croatian posters seem to follow a pattern.

and i didnīt talk about my opinion only
that will be the perception
deal with it
coria is a doper, chela is a doper, puerta is a doper, koubek is a doper
f*** it

yes, well... if you are going to give opinions about these serious topics, the least you can do is reading or asking about their cases.

Jaap
09-13-2006, 02:43 PM
Once a drug cheat, always a drug cheat. Hope Canas never makes it back to the main tour....dirty cheat.

guille&tati4life
09-13-2006, 02:43 PM
and i didnīt talk about my opinion only
that will be the perception
deal with it
coria is a doper, chela is a doper, puerta is a doper, koubek is a doper
f*** it

:haha:

so misinformed :rolleyes:

guille&tati4life
09-13-2006, 02:45 PM
Once a drug cheat, always a drug cheat. Hope Canas never makes it back to the main tour....dirty cheat.

He's not a cheat

Jaap
09-13-2006, 02:46 PM
He's not a cheat
Ok sorry, you've convinced me. :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
09-13-2006, 02:47 PM
s.m, do you have a clue? No, probably not.

Koubek, yes he was such a doper cause he got an injection from a doctor in Vienna into his wrist to overcome an injury and didn't sign the form, like getting an injection in the wrist is going to be the best place for performance enhancing drugs.

Koubek: Had his case dismissed by the CAS

http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/newsarticle.asp?id=15948

The International Tennis Federation announced in December that Stefan Koubek has been found to have committed a Doping Offence.

An independent Anti-Doping Tribunal convened under the ITF's 2004 Tennis Anti-Doping Programme has ruled that Stefan Koubek, a 27-year-old Austrian national, committed a doping offence under Article C.1 of the Programme (presence of a prohibited substance in a sample), in that a sample that he provided on 29 May 2004 after a men's singles match at Roland Garros in Paris tested positive for a glucocorticosteroid (Triamcinolone Acetonide), a substance prohibited in competition under the WADA Code and the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme.

Glucocorticosteroids are listed as a "specified substance" under the WADA Code and the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme, ie as substances "particularly susceptible to unintentional anti-doping rules violations because of their general availability in medicinal products or that are less likely to be successfully abused as doping agents." As a result, the Code and the Programme provide that a doping offence involving a specified substance where there is no intent to enhance performance carries a minimum penalty of a warning and reprimand through to a maximum penalty of a one-year suspension.

The independent tribunal, consisting of Mr Tim Kerr QC, Professor Vivian James and Dr Peter Jenoure, determined after a hearing in London on 21 December 2004 that Mr Koubek's analytical positive result was caused by an injection of Volon A40 administered to Mr Koubek as treatment for a wrist injury. The tribunal rejected a defence of No Fault or Negligence on the part of Mr Koubek but accepted that there was no intent on Mr Koubek's part to enhance performance. It therefore imposed a three-month suspension from competition, effective immediately. It also disqualified Mr Koubek's results from Roland Garros (including forfeiture of ranking points and prize money won by Mr Koubek at that event) but determined in its discretion that the results he obtained in events subsequent to Roland Garros should not be disqualified.

The tribunal's written decision with reasons are below. Any party wishing to appeal the decision have three weeks to do so from receipt of the written decision. Subject thereto, Mr Koubek, whose current singles ranking is 60, will be eligible to return to competition on 21 March 2005.

Caņas

http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/newsarticle.asp?id=16515

Court of Arbitration for Sport reduces suspension of Guillermo Canas to 15 months
Lausanne, 23 May 2006 – The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has partially upheld the appeal filed by the Argentinean tennis player, Guillermo Caņas, against the decision of the Anti-doping Tribunal of the ATP Tour of 7 August 2005.

The Tribunal of the ATP Tour found that Guillermo Caņas tested positive for the prohibited substance hydrochlorothiazide (HCT) at the ATP tournament “Abierto Mexicano de Tenis” in Acapulco, Mexico on 21 February 2005. As a consequence, the Tribunal of the ATP Tour disqualified the Player from the Acapulco tournament and suspended him for a period of two years, effective from 11 June 2005. Furthermore, the Tribunal ordered the disqualification of the Player from the competitions he took part in between 21 February 2005 and 11 June 2005, with the exception of Roland Garros, a tournament during which he tested negative.

The Player filed an appeal with the CAS on 29 August 2005 to request the annulment of the ATP Tour decision. This matter was submitted to a panel composed of Ms Maidie Oliveau (USA), President, Mr Christopher Campbell (USA) and Mr Yves Fortier (Canada). The parties, their representatives and witnesses were heard by the Panel at a hearing in New York on 19 and 20 January 2006.

On the basis of the evidence submitted by the parties, the Panel of arbitrators found that the Player ingested a medication called “Rofucal”, delivered to him by the tournament staff in Acapulco although the tournament doctor prescribed a different medication for him. G.Caņas took the medication he received without reviewing the content of the box, even though he knew that the medication had been through several hands before being delivered to him. The Panel noted also that the doping control form completed by the Player did not list the medication prescribed by the tournament doctor.

The Panel considered that the Player was entitled to rely on the expertise of independent medical staff provided by the organisers of the Acapulco tournament. The arbitrators also emphasised the fact that a mistake in the delivery of the medication was made not by the Player, but rather by the tournament staff. However, the Panel considered that the Player had a duty of utmost caution after visiting the tournament doctor to ascertain whether the medication received was indeed the medication prescribed by the doctor.

In conclusion, the Panel was of the opinion that the negligence committed by the Player was not significant and decided that his period of ineligibility should be reduced by nine months, from two years to fifteen months. The suspension of G. Caņas which started on 11 June 2005 will come to end on 10 September 2006. In addition, the Panel decided that other than with respect to the Acapulco tournament, none of the results achieved by G.Canãs before 11 June 2005 should be disqualified.

Hendu
09-13-2006, 02:49 PM
For those who like to know what they are talking about:

On the basis of the evidence submitted by the parties, the Panel of arbitrators found that the Player ingested a medication called “Rofucal”, delivered to him by the tournament staff in Acapulco although the tournament doctor prescribed a different medication for him. G.Caņas took the medication he received without reviewing the content of the box, even though he knew that the medication had been through several hands before being delivered to him. The Panel noted also that the doping control form completed by the Player did not list the medication prescribed by the tournament doctor.

The Panel considered that the Player was entitled to rely on the expertise of independent medical staff provided by the organisers of the Acapulco tournament. The arbitrators also emphasised the fact that a mistake in the delivery of the medication was made not by the Player, but rather by the tournament staff. However, the Panel considered that the Player had a duty of utmost caution after visiting the tournament doctor to ascertain whether the medication received was indeed the medication prescribed by the doctor.

In conclusion, the Panel was of the opinion that the negligence committed by the Player was not significant and decided that his period of ineligibility should be reduced by nine months, from two years to fifteen months. The suspension of G. Caņas which started on 11 June 2005 will come to end on 10 September 2006. In addition, the Panel decided that other than with respect to the Acapulco tournament, none of the results achieved by G.Canãs before 11 June 2005 should be disqualified.

http://www.itftennis.com/antidoping/news/newsarticle.asp?id=16515

Hendu
09-13-2006, 02:51 PM
I am a slow poster, and I hate it!

Damn you GWH! :p

Jaap
09-13-2006, 02:51 PM
deal with it
coria is a doper, chela is a doper, puerta is a doper, koubek is a doper
f*** it
Notice the link, 3 out of 4 are Argentinian.

Coincidence....or not?

guille&tati4life
09-13-2006, 02:53 PM
Ok sorry, you've convinced me. :rolleyes:

Hopefully the post immediately following the one quoted managed to convince you ;)

Hendu
09-13-2006, 02:54 PM
Notice the link, 3 out of 4 are Argentinian.

Coincidence....or not?

yes, and Maradona...

I am starting to know how your brain works.

guille&tati4life
09-13-2006, 02:57 PM
Notice the link, 3 out of 4 are Argentinian.

Coincidence....or not?

What is it you're trying to suggest?

Hendu
09-13-2006, 02:59 PM
What is it you're trying to suggest?

All Argies are junkies, everybody knows that.

guille&tati4life
09-13-2006, 03:03 PM
All Argies are junkies, everybody knows that.

:lol: that's certainly how it sounds

:rolleyes: @ Jaap

s.m.
09-13-2006, 04:19 PM
I would love to visit Croatia for its beauties and its people.


country is more pretty than the people :devil:



yes, well... if you are going to give opinions about these serious topics, the least you can do is reading or asking about their cases.

iīve read the desicion
it says that willy was dumb and thatīs it

personally i was really disapointed when canas was positive
i liked canas
now i dont know what to think

obviously itf has some problmes with this subject, but i still have some doubts about canas
i ask myself, is he that stupid to make such mistake
itīs a conflict in my head

p.s.
nothing to do with the fact heīs an argentinian
i couldnīt care less about that

s.m.
09-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Notice the link, 3 out of 4 are Argentinian.

Coincidence....or not?

coincidence
and no hood in there ;)

s.m.
09-13-2006, 04:22 PM
s.m, do you have a clue? No, probably not.



of course i do
all caught athlets are dumb and donīt know what they are taking, or itīs for curing syphils or whatever

Hendu
09-13-2006, 04:28 PM
of course i do
all athlets are dumb and donīt know what they are taking or itīs for curing syphils or whatever

These are facts:

"The Panel noted also that the doping control form completed by the Player did not list the medication prescribed by the tournament doctor."

"The arbitrators also emphasised the fact that a mistake in the delivery of the medication was made not by the Player, but rather by the tournament staff."

Action Jackson
09-13-2006, 04:35 PM
If people want to read the bigger versions of the articles I posted, they are in PDF files at the end of the respective links.

Drugs in tennis, it's a pro sport, so of course they are around. If the case the ATP had was as tight as they claimed, then Caņas would not have got off his charges and the same thing would have happened to him as Koubek and served the full suspension.

Caņas and Koubek have had to learn the hard way, take responsibility for what they are taking and sign medical release forms just to cover their own backs if something like this happens.

s.m.
09-13-2006, 04:41 PM
These are facts:

my 1st post here was that he was tainted
and he is
some people dont care about the rulling
some people tought that canas was on doping before the incident, and this only confirmed that
i am just telling you like it is
i didnīt say it was fair or right, or that i tought like that
i was talking about perception
hence the f*** it remark
but if canas has the fight in him to comeback, great for him

Pea
09-13-2006, 04:49 PM
Go Guillermo!!!! I can't wait to see you play again!!!

alfonsojose
09-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Caņas, Do u have a cold?. I have some fantastic pills for that :angel:

jayjay
09-13-2006, 06:35 PM
Not in doubt and good to see him back and I can post the case findings again. Basically it was proven that there was no intention to cheat by the CAS, hence this is why his suspension was reduced.

I wouldn't bother wasting your time. Some people are so ignorant and ill-informed that even when the facts are smacking them in the face over and over again - they take no notice. Some of them are too thick to understand, I just feel sorry for those people. And others just don't want to accept the findings, I just have contempt for them.

jayjay
09-13-2006, 06:37 PM
coria is a doper

You really know what you're talking about don't you? :rolleyes:

chicky841
09-13-2006, 08:14 PM
vamos willy!! kick some ass

revolution
09-13-2006, 09:10 PM
Great comeback win for the big man. It's not easy on your first match back ever, whether you're playing a junior, or WR 1000.

He'll climb the rankings pretty quickly. I'm glad he's back.

Doctor Dance
09-13-2006, 09:23 PM
Well of course Canas will be tainted now, once anyone receives a suspension for doping will have that over their heads for the rest of their life

Whether it is fair or not, that is different matter altogether. But when it is doping concerned, it is easy to say guilty until proven innocent than the other way around

Varya
09-13-2006, 11:04 PM
:) Great news!
:D Vamos Willy!!

Mistaflava
09-14-2006, 01:00 AM
how long until he craves the juice again???

marti_228
09-14-2006, 01:17 AM
He won the first set 6-0 against Marcos Daniel

jcempire
09-14-2006, 02:42 AM
He is not the guy who as champion

Hendu
09-14-2006, 03:46 AM
Willy beated Marcos Daniel (the #1 in the challenger) 6-0 6-2.

Now he will play against Andre Sa.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1271239&fecha=20060913

Willy will come back strong! :banana:

Hendu
09-14-2006, 11:50 AM
http://www.ole.clarin.com/diario/2006/09/14/fotos/f036ch13.jpg

ĄVamos Caņas!

Aguante_el_Gato
09-14-2006, 02:35 PM
I wouldn't bother wasting your time. Some people are so ignorant and ill-informed that even when the facts are smacking them in the face over and over again - they take no notice. Some of them are too thick to understand, I just feel sorry for those people. And others just don't want to accept the findings, I just have contempt for them. :worship:

DhammaTiger
09-14-2006, 03:09 PM
I am so happy that Willy won his first match on his come back :) :worship: :yippee: Vamos Willy and back to the top ten where you belong!!!! :worship: :dance: :woohoo: :hatoff: :bigclap:

As for all the haters, who post their ignorant rantings here :nerner:

Hendu
09-14-2006, 03:19 PM
I am so happy that Willy won his first match on his come back :) :worship: :yippee: Vamos Willy and back to the top ten where you belong!!!! :worship: :dance: :woohoo: :hatoff: :bigclap:

As for all the haters, who post their ignorant rantings here :nerner:

He already won the second, with the same result 6-0 6-2. :)

Leo
09-14-2006, 04:00 PM
Why was he allowed to return so quickly?

Hendu
09-14-2006, 04:04 PM
Why was he allowed to return so quickly?

The answer is in page 2.

Bilbo
09-14-2006, 04:05 PM
Vamos Willy!!! :yeah:

ASP0315
09-14-2006, 04:19 PM
He already won the second, with the same result 6-0 6-2. :)

who?? against Daniel?? Vamos Willy. :worship: .

Aguante_el_Gato
09-15-2006, 12:21 PM
He already won the second, with the same result 6-0 6-2. :)He already won the third, but 6-0 6-1 (against André Sá)
:bigclap:

Pea
09-15-2006, 01:07 PM
Holy shit! Guillermo grew out his hair! Woot!!!