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okay so my thread just got banned...

lordmanji
09-12-2006, 07:27 PM
i didnt know there were people with power trips at mtf. i assume one of the posters who told me to change the title of the banned thread, "if federer DIED RIGHT NOW, where would he be on GOAT list?" was a moderator. but instead of identifying himself as a mod, he goes the cowardly route and removes the thread without any notice or explanation even after i explained to everyone the reasoning behind title (federer said he wouldn't retire like borg).

so congratulations for having no sense of levity, imagination; being on a power trip; and being cowardly!

Yappa
09-12-2006, 07:30 PM
Well it was not me. Insulting the mods wont help you though.

Purple Rainbow
09-12-2006, 07:31 PM
i didnt know there were people with power trips at mtf. i assume one of the posters who told me to change the title of the banned thread, "if federer DIED RIGHT NOW, where would he be on GOAT list?" was a moderator. but instead of identifying himself as a mod, he goes the cowardly route and removes the thread without any notice or explanation even after i explained to everyone the reasoning behind title (federer said he wouldn't retire like borg).

so congratulations for having no sense of levity, imagination; being on a power trip; and being cowardly!

Coming from somebody with very poor taste... :rolleyes:

lordmanji
09-12-2006, 07:35 PM
Coming from somebody with very poor taste... :rolleyes:

excuse me but do you have any support for your argument? I can just reply to your post saying "coming from somebody with very poor taste... :rolleyes: who made you the arbiter of taste other than that tennis stick...

i already explained why i said died instead of retired. perhaps you can do something constructive rather than reactive for once in your life? :eek:

Deboogle!.
09-12-2006, 07:37 PM
The mods are publicly disclosed at the bottom of every forum at MTF. wtn_amanda is the main admin and she hasn't been around for a while. Bad gambler is away on vacation, so it was Neely or Carlita, most likely, as Jazz_Girl hasn't been around lately either. The mods don't unfairly and arbitrarily just delete threads for fun - people must have reported it.

Purple Rainbow
09-12-2006, 07:41 PM
excuse me but do you have any support for your argument? I can just reply to your post saying "coming from somebody with very poor taste... :rolleyes: who made you the arbiter of taste other than that tennis stick...

i already explained why i said died instead of retired. perhaps you can do something constructive rather than reactive for once in your life? :eek:
For once in my life? I don't believe I have ever read anything about you and probably vice versa...
imho, death is not a subject to be taken lightly. Not only was it totally unnecessary in your post (I didn't read your explanation, but I'd be very surpised if you could come up with a good reason to talk about a fictional death of a tennis player), it might even be offensive and hurting to other posters. Poor taste, mate.

supersexynadal
09-12-2006, 07:41 PM
I never noticed the mods doing anything. Im not saying theyre not doiing their jubs (im sure they are) but from the threads people start, i have to say theyre easy on us!

R.Federer
09-12-2006, 07:58 PM
Since this thread was started with so much tennisworthy news/debate/discussion about a game/match/player, expect it to go the same route

lordmanji
09-12-2006, 08:04 PM
For once in my life? I don't believe I have ever read anything about you and probably vice versa...
imho, death is not a subject to be taken lightly. Not only was it totally unnecessary in your post (I didn't read your explanation, but I'd be very surpised if you could come up with a good reason to talk about a fictional death of a tennis player), it might even be offensive and hurting to other posters. Poor taste, mate.

well you just excluded yourself from the discussion by admitting you didnt even read the explanation. that segues perfectly into my point that you're reacting to the style and not substance of what was said. whats worst is that you think you can pass off judgement without knowing or wanting to know why. theres a reason why judges have to find precedent in previous cases for their rulings you know...

and if people are hurt about the supposition of a hypothetical death of a tennis player, i am very amused by that. they need to lighten up. but im sure no one was hurt, just a little scared that it might happen.

DrJules
09-12-2006, 08:06 PM
i didnt know there were people with power trips at mtf. i assume one of the posters who told me to change the title of the banned thread, "if federer DIED RIGHT NOW, where would he be on GOAT list?" was a moderator. but instead of identifying himself as a mod, he goes the cowardly route and removes the thread without any notice or explanation even after i explained to everyone the reasoning behind title (federer said he wouldn't retire like borg).

so congratulations for having no sense of levity, imagination; being on a power trip; and being cowardly!

I strongly disapproved of what you said regarding if somebody died.

However, I strongly support your freedom of speech and do not approve of its oppression. Naturally, the role of moderator is going to attract individuals who like power over others and the opportunity to determine what is or is not acceptable for others to read.

Purple Rainbow
09-12-2006, 08:09 PM
well you just excluded yourself from the discussion by admitting you didnt even read the explanation. that segues perfectly into my point that you're reacting to the style and not substance of what was said. whats worst is that you think you can pass off judgement without knowing or wanting to know why. theres a reason why judges have to find precedent in previous cases for their rulings you know...

and if people are hurt about the supposition of a hypothetical death of a tennis player, i am very amused by that. they need to lighten up. but im sure no one was hurt, just a little scared that it might happen.

It's pretty much impossible to read your argument if your thread has gotten deleted. I suppose that it is difficult for you to understand.
And, uhm, if you've just lost a loved one, such a thread title can be quite offensive. You've probably lived a nice, sheltered life so far and wouldn't understand the impact death can have on a person. Maybe one day you'll come to realise that death is not a topic to be talked about lightly.

lordmanji
09-12-2006, 08:13 PM
I strongly disapproved of what you said regarding if somebody died.

However, I strongly support your freedom of speech and do not approve of its oppression. Naturally, the role of moderator is going to attract individuals who like power over others and the opportunity to determine what is or is not acceptable for others to read.

i respect your opinion.

on another note, this thread here could be a microcosm of how the general public sees tennis and tennis players as old, stiff, uptight, haughty, etc. on almost any other forum, the thread title such as that would not cause so much a stir but on here its a big thing. or could it be, as a twenty something i've offended a specific over-40 crowd?

but right now i feel like john macenroe arguing a line call against not just the umpire but the establishment behind him.

lordmanji
09-12-2006, 08:16 PM
It's pretty much impossible to read your argument if your thread has gotten deleted. I suppose that it is difficult for you to understand.
And, uhm, if you've just lost a loved one, such a thread title can be quite offensive. You've probably lived a nice, sheltered life so far and wouldn't understand the impact death can have on a person. Maybe one day you'll come to realise that death is not a topic to be talked about lightly.

my dear mr jules, if you read the first post w/ any sincerity, you'd find in parenthesis something to the effect of (federer said he'd never retire like borg) as the reasoning of the post.

and yes, ive experienced loss as well but hell...life goes on. above all, its a THREAD TITLE pertaining to arguably one of the most protected men in the world what with all the wealth and security he invites. i find the idea of fed dying impossible.

atheneglaukopis
09-12-2006, 08:34 PM
Personally, I had no problem with the wording of the original thread, and in fact I thought it reasonable. The question is: Where does Federer stand now with respect to the achievements of all-time greats? It's framed in terms of "if he were to die" to give the question some relevance, because death, unlike retirement, is irreversible and could happen to anyone at any time. Federer has stated that he has no intention of retiring until at least 2012, and as we have seen with other players, retirement isn't necessarily permanent. The question could have been framed just as well in terms of a career-ending injury, but I'm not of the opinion that the thread warranted deletion.

For the record, I am distinctly unfond of the original poster; Federer is my number one favorite player, and I would be upset if anything were actually to happen to him and/or he were to be seriously threatened; my favorite sister died when I was thirteen for reasons that had nothing to do with lack of wealth or security, so I'm well aware death can strike at any moment and that it is upsetting when it happens.

R.Federer
09-12-2006, 08:38 PM
my dear mr jules, if you read the first post w/ any sincerity, you'd find in parenthesis something to the effect of (federer said he'd never retire like borg) as the reasoning of the post.

and yes, ive experienced loss as well but hell...life goes on. above all, its a THREAD TITLE pertaining to arguably one of the most protected men in the world what with all the wealth and security he invites. i find the idea of fed dying impossible.
Offensive threads are often deleted. Were you not around when a thread about the accusations of rafa taking dope was deleted? That was a thread, about a tennis player, reporting stuff in the media (evidently, made up stuff), but was deleted nevertheless. WHY? Because it is offensive to the player, and to his fans. Likewise here. The underlying sentiment comes across as a wish to see the death of a player. That's just disgusting.

DrJules
09-12-2006, 08:58 PM
Offensive threads are often deleted. Were you not around when a thread about the accusations of rafa taking dope was deleted? That was a thread, about a tennis player, reporting stuff in the media (evidently, made up stuff), but was deleted nevertheless. WHY? Because it is offensive to the player, and to his fans. Likewise here. The underlying sentiment comes across as a wish to see the death of a player. That's just disgusting.

Or was that for legal reasons.

lordmanji
09-12-2006, 09:05 PM
Offensive threads are often deleted. Were you not around when a thread about the accusations of rafa taking dope was deleted? That was a thread, about a tennis player, reporting stuff in the media (evidently, made up stuff), but was deleted nevertheless. WHY? Because it is offensive to the player, and to his fans. Likewise here. The underlying sentiment comes across as a wish to see the death of a player. That's just disgusting.

there is no wish for federer to die. its as if you guys are saying its a crime to even imagine for it to happen, that doing so will make it happen. its completely theoretical. i dont believe this is on same level as rafa's doping accusations as they were unfounded and rumormongering.
if i had known the title wouldve caused this much controversy, i wouldve renamed it because now its taking away from the original intent of the post. again, federer will never retire prematurely. we all know and have heard or read him say that. the only way to frame the discussion to its potential is to suppose the impossible.

but it seems that that time is over for this particular topic.

R.Federer
09-12-2006, 09:19 PM
Or was that for legal reasons.
I'm afraid not. The moderator, I can't remember who it was, very clearly posted in a thread that it was "unfair to the player and his fans". It was media-reporting at its worst (based on vague ideas and whims and such).

I think most posters can recognize when a thread is in poor taste, there's no need to spell out what that is. It's like that judge said when defining porn you know, I know it when I see it.

Anyhow, like Lord suggested, this thread should die (did I say die?)

PamV
09-12-2006, 09:23 PM
Use better wording next time. Such as what if Roger retired tomorrow?

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