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Enough is enough...get rid of DOUBLES TENNIS!

Mistaflava
09-12-2006, 07:33 AM
Most ridiculous part about tennis is doubles.

Not only are doubles for fat or out of shape players who can't play alone, but doubles always clog up the ORDER OF PLAY schedule and only about 2 or 3% of the tennis fans in the world actually care to watch doubles.

What's next...bowling doubles? Golfing doubles?

Such a stupid sport and don't know how any could like doubles. Now just get rid of it already and make tennis a better sport. If you're too fat to play singles, get in shape like every other athlete.

MurrayFan1
09-12-2006, 11:12 AM
Most of the rallies are like 2 hits long anyway.

~EMiLiTA~
09-12-2006, 11:29 AM
nice one

Horatio Caine
09-12-2006, 11:32 AM
:haha:

Rex
09-12-2006, 11:36 AM
you obviously dont understand the true art of doubles- i do somewhat support what your saying, i play both singles and doubles, i do play i bit more singles but doubles is great in itself, perhaps not great to watch. But fascinating to play...

Guybrush
09-12-2006, 12:00 PM
Most ridiculous part about tennis is doubles.

Not only are doubles for fat or out of shape players who can't play alone, but doubles always clog up the ORDER OF PLAY schedule and only about 2 or 3% of the tennis fans in the world actually care to watch doubles.

What's next...bowling doubles? Golfing doubles?

Such a stupid sport and don't know how any could like doubles. Now just get rid of it already and make tennis a better sport. If you're too fat to play singles, get in shape like every other athlete.

I agree. And the fact is that the best doubles players in the world are not the ones on the top of the doubles ranking. I bet that any 2 single top 10 players can beat the Bryan brothers if they play seriously. But they don't play it 'cause they don't have time do concentrate on it.

Björki
09-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Enough is enough... get rid of Mistaflava :fiery:

:haha:

hitchhiker
09-12-2006, 12:39 PM
I do not want to hear one negative word about doubles. The top 4 doubles players are quality as their singles records show:

1)Bob Bryan

Bob played one singles match in 2006 and ended up losing to Verdasco, Fernando (ESP) 2-6 6-3 1-6 on clay in a exhibition.
Bob is definetly a clay court specialist as 100% of his matches in 2006 were on clay and was looking like a real threat for the French open crown with this blistering form.
Luckily for Nadal, Bob decided to go after the more prestigious doubles RG crown.

2) Mike Bryan

By all reports Mike is in excellent form. Mike's last singles win was 39 months ago so he will be full of confidence and will ride the momentum wave in whatever tournament he decides to enter.
With a career defining win over De Armas, Jose (VEN) 6-1 6-1 in 2001 Mike put himself on the map and should be a big threat during this indoor season.


3) Paul Hanley

People talk about Agassi and Safin in terms of comebacks but slow serving Paul Hanley outdoes both of them in terms of singles comebacks.
After a consistent stay at #900 in the rankings during the 1997-2000 period, Hanley made headlines when he rose up to #753 in Octoober 2001.
Through pure determination, hard work and a little bit of luck Paul fought back and regained the #900 ranking in March 2003 where he has remained ever since. What a comeback. Straight set loses to Joseph Sirianni as well as Du Johan Randt and Alan Mackin (who took 3 games of Federer let me remind you) were key in this comeback.

4) Mark Knowles
Why are people talking about Agassi's longetivity? Mark is approaching 40 and is at the peak of his doubles ability. But don't let his doubles form take away from the singles. With a singles prize money purse of $54 since 2001, it is easy to see why Mark is not planning to hang up the tennis racket any time soon.
Mark is also in fine physical shape for singles. In a recent davis cup tie against Peru Mark lasted a whole 2 sets of singles before retiring due to exhaustion even though he remained on only one side of the court for the duration of the match.

marifline
09-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Genuine Mistaflava's post..he should win an award

leng jai
09-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Obviously you don't actually play tennis, or doubles. Doubles is incredibly fun to play with a dedicated partner, and is very different from singles. It is fairly boring to watch, unless its Ivanovic/Kirilenko or Anna k/Hingis back in the day

Pigpen Stinks
09-12-2006, 01:10 PM
I agree. And the fact is that the best doubles players in the world are not the ones on the top of the doubles ranking. I bet that any 2 single top 10 players can beat the Bryan brothers if they play seriously. But they don't play it 'cause they don't have time do concentrate on it.

With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more. Singles prowess does not necessarily equate to doubles prowess.

croat123
09-12-2006, 01:15 PM
i totally agree. they a making as much as an average top20 singles player, but they really do all suck and no one watches them. it shows how much the uso cares about the men's doubles when they put them out on armstrong in front of 10 people. from personal experience, everyone leaves the nasdaq after the singles final, leaving only maybe 50 people (out of 13,000) to watch the doubles

croat123
09-12-2006, 01:16 PM
With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more. Singles prowess does not necessarily equate to doubles prowess.
they are so much better at tennis that i don't think doubles ability matters. top10 singles players are on an entirely different playing level

Corswandt
09-12-2006, 01:48 PM
perhaps not great to watch. But fascinating to play...

Perhaps the thread starter was talking from the perspective of the average viewer. And for the average viewer like myself, doubles are indeed very boring to watch (the Estoril Open final was an exception, but that was because clown Lucas Arnold threatened to go to the stands to beat up some spectators, said spectators then yelling back "Come up here if you dare then!"). Those funny reflex volley exchanges at the net that are used for the highlights account for about 1% of the points played.

Guybrush
09-12-2006, 01:48 PM
With all due respect, I couldn't disagree more. Singles prowess does not necessarily equate to doubles prowess.

Ljubicic & Ancic beaten the Bryans last year in DC (on American ground) and this year in the World Team Cup. And I'm sure that the other top single players would do the same. :cool:

Agatha_christie
09-12-2006, 02:07 PM
I love watching doubles. It really depresses me that doubles players often don't get the recognition they deserve :o

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 02:12 PM
Look at it this way, it is far more easy for a good singles player to become a doubles player with time and practice in doubles, and more difficult for a doubles player to become a decent singles player.

Doubles is the worst part of tennis for me, I really wouldn't be sad to see it get the boot.

Rosa Luxembourg
09-12-2006, 02:14 PM
only about 2 or 3% of the tennis fans in the world actually care to watch doubles.



And that's based on what? :scratch: :rolleyes:

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 02:18 PM
i totally agree. they a making as much as an average top20 singles player, but they really do all suck and no one watches them. it shows how much the uso cares about the men's doubles when they put them out on armstrong in front of 10 people. from personal experience, everyone leaves the nasdaq after the singles final, leaving only maybe 50 people (out of 13,000) to watch the doubles

It shows how much anyone cares about doubles, they don't. Doubles really generates next to no interest, and the stadiums are never having large crowds for the doubles. The media doesn't give a fuck about doubles, which is obvious in the coverage, and exposure doubles gets. Very few fans actually care about doubles, its always funny to hear people say "I love doubles" and then you go to tournaments and the doubles matches are empty.

I would rather watch a girls junior singles match, than watch the total borefest of doubles :bolt:

Pigpen Stinks
09-12-2006, 03:02 PM
Ljubicic & Ancic beaten the Bryans last year in DC (on American ground) and this year in the World Team Cup. And I'm sure that the other top single players would do the same. :cool:

The Ljubicic-Ancic team is not a good example to support your argument. For starters, they are two of the biggest servers on tour, and two of the better volleyers, so their strengths predispose them to be good at doubles. Second, they've played plenty of doubles with each other and had some very solid results - a quarterfinal showing at the US Open a few years ago where they lost in a 3rd set breaker to the Bryans, and a bronze medal at the last Olympics. So, it's not like they had never teamed up before, played together for the first time, and knocked off the Bryans. Third, they obviously play some of their best tennis when playing for their country.

If you had come up with an example such as Coria and Gaudio (a few years ago when both were solid top tenners) beating the Bryans, then your argument may have had more substance. My point is that your logic suggests that whatever your ranking is in singles would most likely equate to what your ranking would be in doubles if all the top singles players played and put a similar effort into their doubles games. A lot of people seem to share this view, and I simply disagree with it.

tangerine_dream
09-12-2006, 03:06 PM
Very few fans actually care about doubles, its always funny to hear people say "I love doubles" and then you go to tournaments and the doubles matches are empty.
:lol: I'm always seeing these irate letters from hardcore doubles fans saying "Show us more doubles!" but when they are shown, nobody's watching, the ratings hardly spike, etc.

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 03:16 PM
:lol: I'm always seeing these irate letters from hardcore doubles fans saying "Show us more doubles!" but when they are shown, nobody's watching, the ratings hardly spike, etc.

That is a very good point tangy :yeah: All these doubles suckers are protesting, but where the hell are they when doubles is being shown!! Didn't know the ratings were the same as the emtpy crowds though :lol:

supersexynadal
09-12-2006, 03:29 PM
I have my respect for doubles but i mst say i dont like watching it but its NOT for fat out of shape people!! I play mostly singles but like most people m age (who compete in singles) will tell u that your doubles record will never be as good as your singles. Its a different animal!

Guybrush
09-12-2006, 03:29 PM
The Ljubicic-Ancic team is not a good example to support your argument. For starters, they are two of the biggest servers on tour, and two of the better volleyers

Ljubo play volleys? :confused:

KaxMisha
09-12-2006, 03:43 PM
Ljubo play volleys? :confused:
Are you kidding? Ljubicic is very solid at the net.

Veruka
09-12-2006, 03:46 PM
I think that comparing singles and doubles is somewhat like comparing volleyball to beach vollyball. It may be played on essentially the same court, with essentially the same equipment, and essentailly the same rules. But when it comes to playing, it's two totally different sports.

I love playing doubles. I find it quite boring to watch. The points go very quick, with lots of pauses due to the strategizing in between. That makes it very understandable that it doesn't draw a large audience, either in stadiums or on TV. But it certainly doesn't take away from the challenge of the game. Think about it - one of the first things Jimmy Connors told Roddick to do to improve his game was to play some doubles. There's value to the game that can't be discounted.

Kristen
09-12-2006, 03:47 PM
How do you know, if you don't watch it? Dickheads.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-12-2006, 03:59 PM
Most ridiculous part about tennis is doubles.

Not only are doubles for fat or out of shape players who can't play alone, but doubles always clog up the ORDER OF PLAY schedule and only about 2 or 3% of the tennis fans in the world actually care to watch doubles.

What's next...bowling doubles? Golfing doubles?

Such a stupid sport and don't know how any could like doubles. Now just get rid of it already and make tennis a better sport. If you're too fat to play singles, get in shape like every other athlete.

lol, this is so mean it's funny


....i don't care for doubles. but i like how it is a second opportunity for players to earn income.

Kristen
09-12-2006, 03:59 PM
I figured I should say more than 'duh you idiot', so here are my thoughts.

I don't want doubles to go. I don't need it to be on tv. A lot of people can play doubles, but not necessarily successfully. Why would the top ten play doubles if they are so magnificent in singles. They take weeks off at a time because their schedules are already full due to how superb they are. Yes, I like a couple of guys who are very competent doubles players. They'll probably retire in the next two years, but even then, I want it around, as it shows off a variety of skills... you actually see people at the net, it's like a whole other ('boooriiing'?) game.

While we're at it, why don't we just have one tournament per week, and demote everyone outside of the top 30 to challengers and futures. Forget qualifying. We don't need to see crap, :bs: tennis star wannabes. Maybe we can cut the doubles draw down to, say, 4 teams...as an exhibition event. Something noone really cares about, and won't count for anything.

Perhaps some of you should write to Etienne? He makes decisions without thinking. Or, tell the players themselves, how pathetic they are! "I don't care if you've earned over a million. You're STILL sh!t to me! Now excuse me, I need to collect my cheque from the government, and go on mtf to blast you".

mangoes
09-12-2006, 04:23 PM
I agree...........I think doubles at Grand Slams/Masters Series should be scrapped. It's a complete waste of money........money that can be used for other things. However, I think doubles should be kept at smaller events. Secondly, I also think that doubles players should be singles players....example, Max and Jonas.

MurrayFan1
09-12-2006, 04:37 PM
Enough is enough... get rid of Mistaflava :fiery:

:haha:

At least he's bold enough to state his opinions well. Most of the time he backs up his opinions well too.

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 04:41 PM
At least he's bold enough to state his opinions well. Most of the time he backs up his opinions well too.

We need more posters like him, Jogy is another one who comes to mind. His opinions are not the typical ones of the board, but he doesn't mince around and hits you with his opinions and doesn't care. I have often agreed with a lot of flavas posts too, on issues like doubles.

MurrayFan1
09-12-2006, 04:44 PM
It was also absolutely hilarious/awesome when this guy predicted that Murray would beat Federer and it was basically just 10 pages of people laughing at him, then who's laughing. Haha, it made that victory even sweeter.

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 04:51 PM
It was also absolutely hilarious/awesome when this guy predicted that Murray would beat Federer and it was basically just 10 pages of people laughing at him, then who's laughing. Haha, it made that victory even sweeter.

Yeah I remember that thread, that was a classic one. You will have to check the bad rep thread btw, to read some of flavas disses at doubles lovers. They are hilarious.

And I believe Flava was put on the sidelines for quite some time (banned for a while?) and yet there are plenty of other people on this board far more worthy :mad: Why are guys like this getting banned whilst the cattle are allowed to roam the forum untouched :eek:

FedererGrandSlam
09-12-2006, 04:51 PM
The current state of professional doubles and the lack of popularity is pretty sad indeed.

Of course, those who bash doubles are mostly armchair tennis "fans" who have never picked up a racket themselves.
For anyone playing tennis in league competition, doubles is just as important as singles. Millions of recreational players prefer playing doubles to singles - okay, partly due to laziness, but mainly because it's so much fun when played properly.
And yes, it's a whole different game indeed. Superior singles players might go down badly against a regular and tactically smart doubles team.

When you look at other "racket" sports like badminton and table-tennis, doubles (and even mixed doubles) is just as important as singles.

I guess it's just not realistic to expected top singles players to give doubles a shot at the moment. The schedule is just too demanding.
Players like McEnroe played doubles frequently throughout their careers though, and for a reason.

Some kind of combined ranking would be a solution, although it will never happen I guess.

MurrayFan1
09-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Yeah I remember that thread, that was a classic one. You will have to check the bad rep thread btw, to read some of flavas disses at doubles lovers. They are hilarious.

And I believe Flava was put on the sidelines for quite some time (banned for a while?) and yet there are plenty of other people on this board far more worthy :mad: Why are guys like this getting banned whilst the cattle are allowed to roam the forum untouched :eek:

Yeah it's so boring when people are just like "worships Federer in boring/generic way." I thought it was good that a lot of the Murray haters handed it to him afterwards. Some just acted like dicks acting all bitter. I basically expected him to lose in a tight match though.

MurrayFan1
09-12-2006, 04:54 PM
The current state of professional doubles and the lack of popularity is pretty sad indeed.

Of course, those who bash doubles are mostly armchair tennis "fans" who have never picked up a racket themselves.
For anyone playing tennis in league competition, doubles is just as important as singles. Millions of recreational players prefer playing doubles to singles - okay, partly due to laziness, but mainly because it's so much fun when played properly.
And yes, it's a whole different game indeed. Superior singles players might go down badly against a regular and tactically smart doubles team.

When you look at other "racket" sports like badminton and table-tennis, doubles (and even mixed doubles) is just as important as singles.

I guess it's just not realistic to expected top singles players to give doubles a shot at the moment. The schedule is just too demanding.
Players like McEnroe played doubles frequently throughout their careers though, and for a reason.

Some kind of combined ranking would be a solution, although it will never happen I guess.

The thing is, it's hard for big players (ie top 30/40) to really give a try at doubles as their schedules are so big already, what with grand slams and masters series. So I suppose that won't help the popularity side of it.

*Viva Chile*
09-12-2006, 04:55 PM
Where is ae wowwww?

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Where is ae wowwww?

:haha: He is online, I was also expecting loads of responses from him.

GlennMirnyi
09-12-2006, 04:59 PM
Some people just can't be beaten when it comes to being a complete assclown.

MurrayFan1
09-12-2006, 05:03 PM
Some people just can't be beaten when it comes to being a complete assclown.

adee gee killa hahahahahahaha.

GlennMirnyi
09-12-2006, 05:09 PM
adee gee killa hahahahahahaha.

Well, if he had won our clash at the US TT he'd have done much worse, be sure... :p

Deboogle!.
09-12-2006, 05:13 PM
I love doubles :shrug: I think it's quick, fast, exciting, and fun. The new changes have made matches shorter at ATP tourneys, and the doubles matches I was at this year in LA were well-attended and the Bryans were a major draw card, getting night sessions and tons of promotion and crowd support.

Moreover, the vast majority of people who play recreational tennis play doubles. It is a craft of its own and requires different skills. Maybe people could take a little time to appreciate the differences and nuances instead of just calling for it to be gotten rid of??

There were more people who stayed til like 11:30 pm last week to see the mixed doubles USO Final than were at a lot of the main draw singles matches throughout the tournament :shrug:

belgampaul
09-12-2006, 05:17 PM
i don't really care about doubles but it's not that boring if you don't watch it a lot. maybe once a year or so a set or so :)

but i'm not sure whether it would be a good decision to scrap doubles from Slams 'coz there are people whose income depends on it and it's like probably the only thing they can do, i mean, play tennis but don't excel in singles. so somehow their hard work pays off a little. for youngsters it's a good opportunity to generate some money in the begining of their careers when there's always lack of it i suppose.

of course on the other hand doubles should not hinder singles schedule.
on the other hand the prize money sums for singles are scandalous and doubles prize money is only a fraction compared to singles.

so i'm for the doubles as a part of the food chain.

Deboogle!.
09-12-2006, 05:19 PM
so i'm for the doubles as a part of the food chain.Shockingly enough, there are some doubles players who didn't even try a singles career because they wanted to play doubles. Then you have a guy like Bjorkman who pulled out of his singles match with an injury so that he could keep playing doubles. Bob Bryan did the same thing earlier this year.

I know it may be hard for some to believe, but some players actually enjoy playing doubles more than singles :)

Raquel
09-12-2006, 05:30 PM
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3) Paul Hanley

People talk about Agassi and Safin in terms of comebacks but slow serving Paul Hanley outdoes both of them in terms of singles comebacks.
After a consistent stay at #900 in the rankings during the 1997-2000 period, Hanley made headlines when he rose up to #753 in Octoober 2001.


Through pure determination, hard work and a little bit of luck Paul fought back and regained the #900 ranking in March 2003 where he has remained ever since. What a comeback. Straight set loses to Joseph Sirianni as well as Du Johan Randt and Alan Mackin (who took 3 games of Federer let me remind you) were key in this comeback.

4) Mark Knowles
Why are people talking about Agassi's longetivity? Mark is approaching 40 and is at the peak of his doubles ability. But don't let his doubles form take away from the singles. With a singles prize money purse of $54 since 2001, it is easy to see why Mark is not planning to hang up the tennis racket any time soon.
Mark is also in fine physical shape for singles. In a recent davis cup tie against Peru Mark lasted a whole 2 sets of singles before retiring due to exhaustion even though he remained on only one side of the court for the duration of the match.
:lol: :devil:

The Bryans and Max aside, the rest of the doubles top 10 are all aged around 33-36. The average age of the top 50 in doubles must be about 30 and frankly are mainly players who couldn't do too much in singles. These players make a good living and are talented at doubles but they're definitely helped by the fact that the best players in singles don't bother with doubles these days. I say keep doubles for the fans who watch it but it's not really a huge shock to see popularity in it fading and tournament organisers rethinking prize money etc.

Raquel
09-12-2006, 05:33 PM
There were more people who stayed til like 11:30 pm last week to see the mixed doubles USO Final than were at a lot of the main draw singles matches throughout the tournament :shrug:I think the mixed final in previous years has been played at 11am on Thursday or Friday morning at the US Open. It was more about Martina than the match-up or bowing to public demand. I'm guessing if Martina wasn't in the final it would not have been a night match or had as many staying to watch.

joeb_uk
09-12-2006, 05:49 PM
:lol: :devil:

The Bryans and Max aside, the rest of the doubles top 10 are all aged around 33-36. The average age of the top 50 in doubles must be about 30 and frankly are mainly players who couldn't do too much in singles. These players make a good living and are talented at doubles but they're definitely helped by the fact that the best players in singles don't bother with doubles these days. I say keep doubles for the fans who watch it but it's not really a huge shock to see popularity in it fading and tournament organisers rethinking prize money etc.

:yeah: Exactly.

cobalt60
09-12-2006, 05:58 PM
How do you know, if you don't watch it? Dickheads.
:haha: Seems we have hashed this topic out before. Everyone is repeating themselves. I don't know about many of the posters here but I hardly ever get to watch doubles on my TV screen. And many of us also don't go to tournaments often. I throughly enjoy playing singles tennis but love watching doubles live whenever I get the chance especially when the top pro teams are playing. I like it and to each their own. Meanwhile there is nothing any of us can actually do about it; thankfully :lol:

cobalt60
09-12-2006, 05:59 PM
:lol: :devil:

The Bryans and Max aside, the rest of the doubles top 10 are all aged around 33-36. The average age of the top 50 in doubles must be about 30 and frankly are mainly players who couldn't do too much in singles. These players make a good living and are talented at doubles but they're definitely helped by the fact that the best players in singles don't bother with doubles these days. I say keep doubles for the fans who watch it but it's not really a huge shock to see popularity in it fading and tournament organisers rethinking prize money etc.
Hmmm Andy Ram is 26 and his partner 29. Best of luck to Andy btw who got married today;)

GlennMirnyi
09-12-2006, 06:03 PM
Are you kidding? Ljubicic is very solid at the net.


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Viveletennis
09-12-2006, 06:11 PM
I love watching doubles. I went to Roland Garros this year and saw some doubles matchs. It was fun. I'm always amazed at how fast the ball goes, and how quickly players must react to win points.

I wish there were more doubles matchs on TV : all I get to see are Davis Cup's doubles, where the best teams usually don't play because they don't have the same nationality (apart from the Bryans). That's why I suscribed to Eurosport during the US Open : I could see some doubles.

Maybe the ATP should find different solutions to promote doubles. Shortening matches will maybe convince some people to go and see a few doubles, but I think some effort should be done concerning the players' popularity. I'm sure more people would see doubles if they knew the players better. Anyway, I would be very sad to see doubles matchs disappear.

Raquel
09-12-2006, 06:12 PM
Hmmm Andy Ram is 26 and his partner 29. Best of luck to Andy btw who got married today;)
I said The Bryans and Max aside the top 10 are all around 33-36 and Ram is not top 10. The average top 50 age is about 30 and Ram is one of the younger ones. Erlich being 29 kinda fits in with that average age of roughly 30. A lot are over 30 though. Cyril Suk is even 40 in January.

cobalt60
09-12-2006, 06:17 PM
I said The Bryans and Max aside the top 10 are all around 33-36 and Ram is not top 10. The average top 50 age is about 30 and Ram is one of the younger ones. Erlich being 29 kinda fits in with that average age of roughly 30. A lot are over 30 though. Cyril Suk is even 40 in January.
Well maybe a wee misunderstanding? Ram and Erlich as a team have been hovering around 6/7 for the last month or so.

s.m.
09-12-2006, 07:21 PM
Enough is enough... get rid of Mistaflava :fiery:

:haha:

there is an even easier way
let´s imagine that all users put him on ignore list at approximately same time
like right now...

Corswandt
09-12-2006, 08:58 PM
Of course, those who bash doubles are mostly armchair tennis "fans" who have never picked up a racket themselves.

Probably, but is there any reason why people who have never played tennis yet are fans of the game should have no say on this matter? I'd guess they account for most of the TV viewers, and possibly even for most of the spectators at major tournaments.

Timariot
09-12-2006, 09:37 PM
Most ridiculous part about tennis is doubles.

Not only are doubles for fat or out of shape players who can't play alone, but doubles always clog up the ORDER OF PLAY schedule and only about 2 or 3% of the tennis fans in the world actually care to watch doubles.

What's next...bowling doubles?

There is team bowling events.

I think the most important priority for tennis is to get rid of stupid star-fucker fans who don't understand why Tours need doubles.

Curiously, these are mostly very same fans who complain that calender is too long, or autumn indoors events should be cancelled, or there is too many clay events...ie. people who know jack shit about how Tours work.

Veruka
09-12-2006, 10:02 PM
I think the mixed final in previous years has been played at 11am on Thursday or Friday morning at the US Open. It was more about Martina than the match-up or bowing to public demand. I'm guessing if Martina wasn't in the final it would not have been a night match or had as many staying to watch.

Martina's final match was undoubtedly a big reason for the draw of the final match. But the scheduling being different this year was due to the rain - not Martina.

Mistaflava
09-12-2006, 11:39 PM
I love watching doubles. It really depresses me that doubles players often don't get the recognition they deserve :o


Why should they? Doubles is the most ridiculous thing I have seen since the invention of darts.

If you can't play singles tennis you don't belong in tennis. PERIOD! Either you get in shape, stop eating chips and watching Big Brother every night and learn how to actually be an athlete.

Mistaflava
09-12-2006, 11:43 PM
:lol: I'm always seeing these irate letters from hardcore doubles fans saying "Show us more doubles!" but when they are shown, nobody's watching, the ratings hardly spike, etc.


This is the comment of the year. I totally agree. Doubles fans are complete hypocrites and this thread has gone miles to prove that.

Doubles is a massive waste of time. Why do they have to include this bullshit sport on the men's tour? Why not have the fat asses...sorry doubles players play in their own tournaments where I don't have worry about the ORDER OF PLAY being littered with this ass clown sport?

The bottom line remains, doubles tennis sucks...play a real sport.

Volcanic Tennis
09-13-2006, 01:14 AM
Doubles is hard to play. Top players have said they don't play it simply because the prize money is lower, and they just aren't all that great at it. Most of them use it as match time.

Doubles is hardly shown on TV, but when it is, you can be SURE I'm watching it. It is a shame they don't watch it more, because it is more entertaining to watch, in my opinion. It's not about one person, it's about two - if one is off, the team pays for it.

When I was at the Roger's Cup, I'd say the stands were practically FULL for each doubles match presented. I barely watch any singles in person because I know I'll never get to see doubles on TV.

I think doubles is great. But that's just me, I don't expect any of you to think like me.

Kristen
09-13-2006, 05:14 AM
First of all, thanks to everyone who quoted Flavas posts. Sadly, the ignore list doesn't remove quotes.

Secondly...who is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to watch doubles?
You poor, sensitive little man :awww: I don't enjoy WTA.... but I don't seriously want it to go. I don't want to see it, so I don't watch it. It really isn't that difficult, sweetheart(s). Apparently you have a brain...why don't you try using it once in a while?

Mistaflava
09-13-2006, 05:21 AM
Kristen, with all due respect...get a fuckin clue.

If you knew how to read you would understand that doubles is annoying, it's useless and it clutters ORDER OF PLAYS. If I wanna say something, you're gonna sit there and listen...PERIOD!

Kristen
09-13-2006, 06:30 AM
www.dictionary.com states "opinion" as:
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

I am glad you have yours.

I know how to read, sugar. Sadly, though, your word is not gospel, and this is where your issue with myself and others who enjoy doubs, lies. Thank you for acknowledging my post. I am truly honoured!

:rolls: I am going to sit here and listen? The only reason I am reading this thread, is because the subject matter interests me. What you have to say is of little interest. Bye now, sweetness. Keep up the good work :kiss:

ae wowww
09-13-2006, 06:44 AM
Why should they? Doubles is the most ridiculous thing I have seen since the invention of darts.

If you can't play singles tennis you don't belong in tennis. PERIOD! Either you get in shape, stop eating chips and watching Big Brother every night and learn how to actually be an athlete.

Try telling me this is not an athlete: http://jimthomasextra3.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/47.jpg

If your legs are even half as ripped as that I take my hat off to you. But I imagine you are not particularly athletic yourself, which is fine.

Timariot
09-13-2006, 07:45 AM
If we want to remove doubles because "nobody cares about them", then why don't we remove all the other events "nobody cares" too, such as Satellite and Challenger level events?

JMG
09-13-2006, 08:56 AM
If we want to remove doubles because "nobody cares about them", then why don't we remove all the other events "nobody cares" too, such as Satellite and Challenger level events?

:retard:

Jade Fox
09-13-2006, 09:21 AM
I remember an article a few years ago by this sportswriter who said he got a lot of letters defending Anna Kournikova when he mentioned she's never won a title, saying how she won several doubles titles. He then went on to say, that winning a doubles is like a AAA baseball team winning a game: It's nice but no one cares. I thought at the time, harsh but true. I mean for all the talk some doubles fans go on about the sport, it's hard to ignore that the one of the only times doubles becomes popular is when a top ten singles player, or some other well known singles player, decides to play doubles in a tournament.

I mean 99 percent of the posts on this board are about the singles area of men's tennis, and I won't be surprised if more people in the US know who Roger Federer is than the Bryan Brothers, who are American.

JMG
09-13-2006, 09:22 AM
Let's have a look at the best doubles player under 23.

61. Philipp Petzschner (22) :bowdown:

Top 10 of 25 and younger:
18.Marcin Matkowski (25)
20.Lukas Dlouhy (23)
22. Jürgen Melzer (25)
32. Jaroslav Levinsky (25)
38. Jose Acasuso (23)
43. Mikhail Youzhny (24)
52. Olivier Rochus (25)
57. Bobby Reynolds (24)
58. Dmitry Tursunov (23)
61. Philipp Petzschner (22)

joeb_uk
09-13-2006, 04:20 PM
This is the comment of the year. I totally agree. Doubles fans are complete hypocrites and this thread has gone miles to prove that.

Doubles is a massive waste of time. Why do they have to include this bullshit sport on the men's tour? Why not have the fat asses...sorry doubles players play in their own tournaments where I don't have worry about the ORDER OF PLAY being littered with this ass clown sport?

The bottom line remains, doubles tennis sucks...play a real sport.

It would be good to see doubles in their own tournaments, but it will never happen as doubles would immediately die if that happened. No one would bother to show up, and it wouldn't last 5 minutes. So I guess we are going to be stuck with it, until it is got rid of completely.

joeb_uk
09-13-2006, 04:21 PM
If we want to remove doubles because "nobody cares about them", then why don't we remove all the other events "nobody cares" too, such as Satellite and Challenger level events?

Because you get far more interest in those events than even those crappy doubles matches on the atp tour (in most cases).

Mistaflava
09-13-2006, 05:10 PM
It would be good to see doubles in their own tournaments, but it will never happen as doubles would immediately die if that happened. No one would bother to show up, and it wouldn't last 5 minutes. So I guess we are going to be stuck with it, until it is got rid of completely.



That is my point...doubles belongs in the grave and I wish someone would send it there.

JMG
09-13-2006, 05:17 PM
imo there is interest in doubles. In all the Futures I watched there were quite a lot of people watching doubles.

joeb_uk
09-13-2006, 05:17 PM
That is my point...doubles belongs in the grave and I wish someone would send it there.

How long do you think it will be before it gets trashed?

Mistaflava
09-13-2006, 05:27 PM
How long do you think it will be before it gets trashed?


It wont get trashed until the assclowns who support doubles and who make all those damn petitions finally go away...

Agatha_christie
09-13-2006, 05:28 PM
Doubles is hard to play. Top players have said they don't play it simply because the prize money is lower, and they just aren't all that great at it. Most of them use it as match time.

Doubles is hardly shown on TV, but when it is, you can be SURE I'm watching it. It is a shame they don't watch it more, because it is more entertaining to watch, in my opinion. It's not about one person, it's about two - if one is off, the team pays for it.

When I was at the Roger's Cup, I'd say the stands were practically FULL for each doubles match presented. I barely watch any singles in person because I know I'll never get to see doubles on TV.

I think doubles is great. But that's just me, I don't expect any of you to think like me.

:worship: Great post.

Timariot
09-13-2006, 05:44 PM
Because you get far more interest in those events than even those crappy doubles matches on the atp tour (in most cases).

Umm - no. Those events draw miniscule live audiences and essentially zero tv time.

Timariot
09-13-2006, 05:46 PM
It wont get trashed until the assclowns who support doubles and who make all those damn petitions finally go away...

It will never die, because thankfully, Powers That Be actually do know jack shit about how the Tours work...

cobalt60
09-13-2006, 06:36 PM
:lol: Enough is enough!! Can we get rid of this thread? ;)

joeb_uk
09-13-2006, 07:23 PM
It wont get trashed until the assclowns who support doubles and who make all those damn petitions finally go away...

:sad:

Mistaflava
09-13-2006, 07:32 PM
It's sad but if tennis wants to be one of the top sports in the world, the excess weight known as doubles needs to go.

RickDaStick
09-13-2006, 08:00 PM
It's sad but if tennis wants to be one of the top sports in the world, the excess weight known as doubles needs to go.

why do you think getting rid of doubles will turn tennis into one of the top sports in the world?

joeb_uk
09-13-2006, 08:11 PM
why do you think getting rid of doubles will turn tennis into one of the top sports in the world?

It won't, but it will make the oop much more enjoyable for most fans, as there is doubles shite later in the day crowding the schedule. Nothing worse than going to a tournament, and seeing only 2 singles matches on the oop, and then about 2 doubles after :mad: Anyway I don't see it getting trashed anytime soon :sad:

David Kenzie
09-13-2006, 08:36 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=49816
;)

cobalt60
09-13-2006, 11:46 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=49816
;)
:haha: I knew there had been other threads but I did not know that MF had started one before. LMAO.

lau
09-14-2006, 12:16 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=49816
;)
:lol:
83.93% :yeah: