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Would Roddick in current form beat Nadal in top form?

hasanahmad
09-11-2006, 07:46 AM
This is the question for the time to come.

Action Jackson
09-11-2006, 07:47 AM
Roddick will beat Nadal on clay.

Exodus
09-11-2006, 07:51 AM
hc yes no doubt but maybe not in clay

Safin_Lova
09-11-2006, 08:12 AM
Roddick will beat Nadal on clay.

thats CRAZY

If federer can't then most probably Roddick can't.

Action Jackson
09-11-2006, 08:13 AM
thats CRAZY

If federer can't then most probably Roddick can't.

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atpSUPERMAN
09-11-2006, 08:18 AM
Roddick wouldn't win a set off topformNadal, even at Wimbledon.

partygirl
09-11-2006, 08:32 AM
Roddick wouldn't win a set off topformNadal, even at Wimbledon.
:haha::haha::haha: OOOOOkay.:spit:

kronus12
09-11-2006, 09:54 AM
roddick would destroy nadal on HC and at wimbledon.
You must be joking if you think at the moment nadal is better then roddick their results in the last two months clearly show it.

williaer
09-11-2006, 09:57 AM
Yah Andy would win hands down on any surface but on clay.

Jade Fox
09-11-2006, 10:05 AM
Andy's best chance at beating Rafa is on hardcourt. I think if these two actually did play each other one of these days, that would be an entertaining match.

They always seem to miss each other though. Either Andy crashes out early or Rafa crashes out early. Maybe the tennis gods don't think that the public is ready for a match with that much booty in it :p :hearts:.

GlennMirnyi
09-11-2006, 11:40 AM
Yah Andy would win hands down on any surface but on clay.

Even if you tie Roddick's feet he would still win.

selesfan
09-11-2006, 12:11 PM
Roddick can beat Nadal on any surface except clay

cmurray
09-11-2006, 12:20 PM
Hard to say. Rafa's foot was hurt when he played Youzhny. Rafa in top form is pretty tough. I'd give the edge to Roddick, but only just barely.

bokehlicious
09-11-2006, 12:26 PM
Rafa's foot was hurt when he played Youzhny.

The same way Roger was hurt in AO 05 vs Safin :yeah: :rolleyes:

Adler
09-11-2006, 12:28 PM
Nadal would win on every surface except for grass

Rogiman
09-11-2006, 12:29 PM
Hard to say, Roddick's level in the 2nd and 3rd sets would definitely suffice, but can he sustain it any longer?

On the other hand, Nadal, both this year and last year (vs. Misha and Blake, respectively), has shown he can't stay in a tough match on HC for too long either.

BlueSwan
09-11-2006, 12:30 PM
Clay, slow hardcourts: Nadal's favourite
Fast hardcourts, grass: Roddick's favourite

cmurray
09-11-2006, 12:36 PM
Hard to say, Roddick's level in the 2nd and 3rd sets would definitely suffice, but can he sustain it any longer?

On the other hand, Nadal, both this year and last year (vs. Misha and Blake, respectively), has shown he can't stay in a tough match on HC for too long either.

True, but I'm pretty sure his hurt foot hampered his mobility. If Andy served really well, though, Rafa wouldn't have a chance. We all know his return game isn't all that spectacular. The problem with Andy is that he can rarely maintain his first serve percentage throughout a match. If he'd served as well as he had in the second through the whole thing, he might have actually had a shot. He didn't. Maybe he can't?

cmurray
09-11-2006, 12:38 PM
The same way Roger was hurt in AO 05 vs Safin :yeah: :rolleyes:

Why the eye roll? Rafa's foot WAS hurt. And what does any of this have to do with Roger in the AO in 2005? Who was talking about that?

bokehlicious
09-11-2006, 12:52 PM
Why the eye roll? Rafa's foot WAS hurt. And what does any of this have to do with Roger in the AO in 2005? Who was talking about that?

Nadal was simply outplayed. Period.

cmurray
09-11-2006, 12:59 PM
Nadal was simply outplayed. Period.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Caren
09-11-2006, 01:01 PM
Really depends on the surface to predict who the winner would be but watever the surface it would sure as hell be a great match.

sawan66278
09-11-2006, 01:34 PM
Rafa, in top form, and Roddick, in current form, would win on all surfaces...Roddick's return game is still weak...and while his serve would win him many cheap points, even on grass he would have tough time would Rafa's spin...remember, the post says "Rafa's TOP form"...if Roddick is in top form and and Rafa is in current form, Rafa probably loses on hardcourt and grass, but wins on Aussie hardcourt and clay...

Apemant
09-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Rafa, in top form, and Roddick, in current form, would win on all surfaces...Roddick's return game is still weak...and while his serve would win him many cheap points, even on grass he would have tough time would Rafa's spin...remember, the post says "Rafa's TOP form"...if Roddick is in top form and and Rafa is in current form, Rafa probably loses on hardcourt and grass, but wins on Aussie hardcourt and clay...

Agree with you and BlueSwan. Rafa can't be touched on clay, and of the other 3 surfaces, I'd give him edge over Andy in AO as well. Wimby and USO, gotta give the edge to a top form Andy. I don't think Rafa would handle Andy's bombs as effectively as Roger.

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09-11-2006, 01:56 PM
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Carito_90
09-11-2006, 02:02 PM
thats CRAZY

If federer can't then most probably Roddick can't.
:haha:

anserq
09-11-2006, 02:08 PM
It's possible, maybe :O Would need roddick to keep up with long rallies and Nadals great enthusiasm :) strong forehands/backhands and pass bys

njorker
09-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Even if you tie Roddick's feet he would still win.

:yeah:

It could be a very close match, though. But Roddick has beaten Nadal on a HC before, back in 2004, and Roddick wasn't as good then as he is now imo. I guess he could easily beat Nadal on HC but Nadal would win easily on clay.

cmurray
09-11-2006, 02:27 PM
I don't mean to pick on Andy, cuz I DO like him, but if Tomas Muster came out of retirement right NOW, he could beat Andy on clay. Andy SUCKS on clay. And Rafa is superman on clay. I think Rafa would have the edge in Australia too. Probably not on hards and DEFINITELY not on grass.

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09-11-2006, 02:30 PM
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Boris Franz Ecker
09-11-2006, 02:38 PM
No, not even on grass.

Pfloyd
09-11-2006, 02:47 PM
I still think a top form Rafa could beat Roddick on HC, but not on grass, and not on carpet either.

True Misha beat Nadal fair and square, but I cannot believe how Nadal messed up that 2nd set point he had in the 3rd set. That was an unusual choke from his part. Then Misha destroyed Rafa in the 4th set, which was well deserved on Misha's part.

jenanun
09-11-2006, 03:48 PM
NO and NEVER

R.Federer
09-11-2006, 03:57 PM
rafa said, at Wimbledon, that he feels worst matched-up against the heavy, big servers (maybe he said that after his near-defeat to Kendrick, I don't know). So, I do think that everywhere except on clay and a slower hc, andy would match up very well with him.
We really got cheated out of a potentially awesome roddick-rafa sf

Apemant
09-11-2006, 04:46 PM
rafa said, at Wimbledon, that he feels worst matched-up against the heavy, big servers (maybe he said that after his near-defeat to Kendrick, I don't know). So, I do think that everywhere except on clay and a slower hc, andy would match up very well with him.
We really got cheated out of a potentially awesome roddick-rafa sf

Yes, I follow Nadal's own words as well. He even said he was worried about not being able to break Luby in the 3rd set of RG SF, even though a serve is easiest to return on clay. So I guess Rafa still has problems returning first serves of really big servers, and Roddick is definitely one of those. With 65% or above 1st serves, I'd definitely give an edge to Roddick on really fast courts, including both USO and Wimby.

oschemi
09-11-2006, 05:07 PM
Yes, I follow Nadal's own words as well. He even said he was worried about not being able to break Luby in the 3rd set of RG SF, even though a serve is easiest to return on clay. So I guess Rafa still has problems returning first serves of really big servers, and Roddick is definitely one of those. With 65% or above 1st serves, I'd definitely give an edge to Roddick on really fast courts, including both USO and Wimby.

At wimby, toward the semifinal-final stages Rafa would have put the beatdown on anybody apart from Fed. The guy hit one less winner than Fed in that final match and fewer unforced errors, anybody else would have been toast.

NYCtennisfan
09-12-2006, 12:15 AM
True, but I'm pretty sure his hurt foot hampered his mobility. If Andy served really well, though, Rafa wouldn't have a chance. We all know his return game isn't all that spectacular. The problem with Andy is that he can rarely maintain his first serve percentage throughout a match. If he'd served as well as he had in the second through the whole thing, he might have actually had a shot. He didn't. Maybe he can't?

He served 66% for the entire match. Most players can't serve that high of a % and they don't hit nearly as hard as Roddick does. Roddick has served a high % while serving huge more times than anyone.

The key for Roddick would be how well he would be attacking with his FH. Nadal would give him plenty of high balls which he likes. Roddikc's returns have improved so it seems likely that he could stay away from a devasting first FH from Nadal off of the return. I think it would be a very tight match on hardcourts with very few breaks of service.

jcempire
09-12-2006, 12:49 AM
Roddick will beat Nadal in any match.

But only not on clay.

PamV
09-12-2006, 12:52 AM
This is the question for the time to come.

I think Roddick would beat Nadal on anything but clay. Maybe we will have a chance to see them play at the TMC if they are in the same group.

RickDaStick
09-12-2006, 01:04 AM
When is the last time Roddick beat a top 10 player anyways?

sawan66278
09-12-2006, 01:15 AM
Nadal, at his peak, would rock Roddick on most surfaces...again, let's remember that Roddick's backhand may very well be the worst of any top player since Courier...and if he tried to come to the net, his volleys are mediocre at best...Roddick would have to serve well to have a chance...Roddick is still pretty much a one-trick pony...and until he defeats a current top 10 player, the jury is still out...Let's make it clear...Federer is clearly #1 and Rafa is clearly #2...everyone else is WAY below...

GlennMirnyi
09-12-2006, 01:21 AM
If Nadal's injured that's all his fault. His game is all running all the time. Maybe one day he learns to play tennis and not to just run and get all balls back, so he can still play for more than 2 years.

~*BGT*~
09-12-2006, 02:13 AM
Andy's best chance at beating Rafa is on hardcourt. I think if these two actually did play each other one of these days, that would be an entertaining match.

They always seem to miss each other though. Either Andy crashes out early or Rafa crashes out early. Maybe the tennis gods don't think that the public is ready for a match with that much booty in it :p :hearts:.
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RogiFan88
09-12-2006, 03:10 AM
how about would Pandy in top form beat Rafa in current form? :haha:

Havok
09-12-2006, 04:06 AM
Nadal's spins and high shots don't bother Roddick as much as they bother Roger. GRass is Roddick's easily, just as clay is Nadal's. On hardcourts no matter the quickness edge to Roddick. Nadal will have heaps of trouble returning serve so one bad service game spells disaster for him. Indoors you'd give to Roddick, and rebound ace is pretty even I'd say. Roddick's top form vs Nadal's top form, then Roddick wins on everything except for clay imo. Though current form grass is his, quick surfaces he'd be heavily favored (though Nadal would still be able to beat him) and slower hardcourts would be even/slight edge to Rafa.

Havok
09-12-2006, 04:09 AM
Nadal, at his peak, would rock Roddick on most surfaces...again, let's remember that Roddick's backhand may very well be the worst of any top player since Courier...and if he tried to come to the net, his volleys are mediocre at best...Roddick would have to serve well to have a chance...Roddick is still pretty much a one-trick pony...and until he defeats a current top 10 player, the jury is still out...Let's make it clear...Federer is clearly #1 and Rafa is clearly #2...everyone else is WAY below...
It's so easy to just regurgitate the whole one-trick pony crap but Andy's faced Roger in all his ther 3 slam finals on QUICK surfaces. Roger's played his absolute best tennis in all 3 finals and Andy still managed to win a set off of him on 2 seperate occasions. Everone would have been toast had they been in Roddick's position. IF Roddick keeps up this level of play trust me he'd be right there with Nadal and they'd fight for the #2 spot.

roddick#1tome
09-12-2006, 05:03 AM
yes, anywhere and everywhere but clay

JW10S
09-12-2006, 05:09 AM
No...