Roger Federer d. Andy Roddick 6-2, 4-6, 7-5, 6-1 to win 3rd US Open & 9th Grand Slam [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Roger Federer d. Andy Roddick 6-2, 4-6, 7-5, 6-1 to win 3rd US Open & 9th Grand Slam

El Legenda
09-10-2006, 11:16 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

make that 1-11 career vs Roger :rolls:

Raquel
09-10-2006, 11:16 PM
:worship:

Well done Roger!! :D When it got close in the 3rd set, Roger stayed strong and came through when it mattered and played great in set 4.

Allez
09-10-2006, 11:17 PM
Awesome match! Rogi wins Slam no. 9!!! Well done Andy for giving it your all. By far the best final between the two. :worship:

El Legenda
09-10-2006, 11:17 PM
last overhead was close :lol:

richie21
09-10-2006, 11:17 PM
well done Roger :)
(too) predictable final :o

Godiva
09-10-2006, 11:18 PM
WHAT A NINJA !!!!

cmurray
09-10-2006, 11:18 PM
good try, Andy. At least he got a set off Roger.

scarecrows
09-10-2006, 11:18 PM
great stuff Rogi

a bagel in the final set would have been great but hey..you cant have everything

atheneglaukopis
09-10-2006, 11:18 PM
He's now passed Agassi et al. for number of slams won. Congratulations, Roger!

Edit: He's also surpassed Sampras at the same age, who had eight. If he keeps pace with Sampras for the rest of his career, he'll reach fifteen.

federated
09-10-2006, 11:18 PM
60+ winners to 20-ish errors. That is just sick.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :woohoo: :woohoo:

I'm so happy for roger! :sobbing:

gusman890
09-10-2006, 11:18 PM
better then i thought he would do.

a competive match, should have broken at 2-2 in the 3rd ;), but oh well :-D

tripb19
09-10-2006, 11:19 PM
Well done Fed :D

Too good again. I won't get bored with performances like that (especially when playing Duck)

hablovah19
09-10-2006, 11:19 PM
so happy for you, roger :bowdown::woohoo:
congrats on your 9th slam title :yeah:

silverwhite
09-10-2006, 11:19 PM
69 winners to 19 UEs. +50, that's sick!!! :bowdown:

BD006
09-10-2006, 11:19 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Daniel
09-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Congratulations Roger :kiss: :hug:

selesfan
09-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Congrats Roger :bounce: 69 winners to just 19 errors :eek:

federated
09-10-2006, 11:20 PM
69 winners to 19 UEs. +50, that's sick!!! :bowdown:

:speakles: :speakles:

Dexter_1986
09-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Genius. Absolute genius :bowdown:
Congrats Roger - proud to be your fan! :yeah: :D

onewoman74
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
YES!!!! Go FED!!!

TheBoiledEgg
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Roger didnt even play that good either
just too good though for the Duck :rolls:

Kalliopeia
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Very nice. Roddick put up a decent fight for awhile, I'll give him that (grudgingly).

silverwhite
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
60+ winners to 20-ish errors. That is just sick.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :woohoo: :woohoo:

I'm so happy for roger! :sobbing:

Great minds :lol:

onewoman74
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Congrats Roger!!!

kronus12
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
congrats on andy making it a worthwhile final and what can i say about federer....the best that ever played the game.

Kip
09-10-2006, 11:21 PM
FedExpress keeps on rollin'!!! :rocker:

adee-gee
09-10-2006, 11:22 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

But I'm gonna look on the bright side, it was a great effort from Andy. 2nd and 3rd sets were great, anyone that calls his one dimensional should watch those, he mixed up his game so much. Left everything out there in the 3rd, and after he lost it there was no way back.

Similar to last years final, it was all about that 3rd set. I'm not saying Andy would've won but there was certainly no way he was coming back once he lost it.

Tactically a very good match from Andy, came into the net off the right ball (most of the time) and was playing sensibly. I just wish he'd hit his forehand more, in the first set and in the latter stages of the match there was just far too many nothing shots.

Great effort Andy, and a great tournament :hug:

prima donna
09-10-2006, 11:22 PM
Well done, Roger.

Nothing but class.

Pfloyd
09-10-2006, 11:22 PM
Congrats Roger, once again. I can't help but complain, this is getting to be quite boring, his dominance and all, but hey, he's deserved it....

arcus
09-10-2006, 11:22 PM
WOO HOO !!!!!!!!!!!

Nice guys finish first!!!!!! Roger has won 8 of the last 12 grand slams!!!!!!

Kip
09-10-2006, 11:23 PM
Congrats Roger :bounce: 69 winners to just 19 errors :eek:
Unfreaking real! :eek:

Roger is the Best! :cool:

Daniel
09-10-2006, 11:23 PM
Congrats Ninja!!! :kiss: :yeah:

fabolous
09-10-2006, 11:23 PM
too big for you andy.

Fisico
09-10-2006, 11:23 PM
the 69 winners to 19 UE's is just unreal :eek:
well done Roger.

poor Andy :sad: but at least he had a good tourny and he's back in the top 10

oschemi
09-10-2006, 11:23 PM
WOO HOO !!!!!!!!!!!

Nice guys finish first!!!!!! Riger has won 8 of the last 12 grand slams!!!!!!


Roger is not my fav but I am speechless right now and so proud of him. Dude was in beast mode out there. :worship: :worship:

njnetswill
09-10-2006, 11:24 PM
:woohoo:

cobalt60
09-10-2006, 11:24 PM
Congrats to Roger! Next time Andy!

doris_hdz
09-10-2006, 11:26 PM
yeahhhhhh...!!!!!!!!!! felicidades Roger....eres el mejor...!!!!!!!!!!!!

njnetswill
09-10-2006, 11:26 PM
too big for you andy.

:haha: :yeah:

Congrats to Andy for making the final though. :cool:

jonas
09-10-2006, 11:26 PM
Gongrats Rogi! :worship:

Aewsome performance. That was a brutal match. One of the best GS-finals in years.

I'm really glad to see Andy back in form. He deserves to be in the top 5. :)

Roger is just too good. No one gets near his qualitys. And he still seems to get better.
Man, what can you say. :rolleyes:

federated
09-10-2006, 11:26 PM
how tacky to ask federer about tiger as the first damn question??? :mad:

marcelwks
09-10-2006, 11:27 PM
Nice try Andy :)

great match :
102 winners
42 unforced errors

:woohoo:

tripb19
09-10-2006, 11:27 PM
how tacky to ask federer about tiger as the first damn question??? :mad:
As expected. :rolleyes:

Godiva
09-10-2006, 11:27 PM
WHAT A NINJA!!!!!!!!

mangoes
09-10-2006, 11:28 PM
I'm very happy Roger won:banana: But, it was hard to truly celebrate because I love Andy and it made me sad to see the hurt look on his face:sad:

Congrats Roger:hug: Sorry Andy:hug:

morningglory
09-10-2006, 11:28 PM
*sigh* :ras:
anyway congratz to Fed :p

doris_hdz
09-10-2006, 11:28 PM
Gongrats Rogi! :worship:;) :bounce:

onewoman74
09-10-2006, 11:29 PM
You knew they were going to bring up Tiger..no surprise!

wipeout
09-10-2006, 11:29 PM
I'm never been a fan of Federer but he is surely the most talented to ever play this sport. :worship: :worship: :worship:

Fedever
09-10-2006, 11:30 PM
better then i thought he would do.

a competive match, should have broken at 2-2 in the 3rd ;), but oh well :-D

He did better than I thought he would do too. Nail-bitter in the 3rd and 4th!
Congrats Roger!!!

Go Federer! Go Safin!!!!

Argenbrit
09-10-2006, 11:30 PM
Congrats Roger :yeah:

And congrats to Andy for making it to the final :)

NaDALiTa
09-10-2006, 11:32 PM
Congrats to Fed he deserved it, i'm sad this final lacked of suspens .......poor duck :hug:

deliveryman
09-10-2006, 11:32 PM
Wow that was high quality tennis out there.

Andy played amazingly well, yet the consistency at which Roger plays at is just too damn over whelming.

FieryFederer
09-10-2006, 11:34 PM
In the 1st set, to impress tiger, fededer played some amazing tennis. :)
After the 1st, to impress the USO crowd, he was bit relaxed ;)
Finally, he got into Ninja mode and won the 4 set convincingly.. :cool:

Congrats fed :wavey:

~*BGT*~
09-10-2006, 11:35 PM
Good match Fed. But he does have this little annoying way of making both us and Andy believe that maybe he can pull it off. :ras: Oh well, on to Madrid, Lyon, Paris, and Shanghai!

star
09-10-2006, 11:35 PM
Roger won. :yawn:

I was happy that Andy managed to play two good sets anyway. He had his chances in that third set and couldn't take them.

tennisforumname
09-10-2006, 11:36 PM
yeah, watching it i was thinking about how similar the scoreline (and match progression) was to the federer-agassi match last year. I think the commentators said this later in the match too... BUT i still agassi's final last year was more impressive- besides the fact he was 35, he had a little closer match the first 3 sets, and it's a possibility his back injury (from the way he was looking/moving after that) is what contributed to his 4th set blowout... whereas roddick just got outplayed in the 4th set. that being said, i was still impressed the way roddick went 100% for each shot, and he put up a good fight.

BD006
09-10-2006, 11:36 PM
3rd set had some great tennis, especially that extra long game.

Congrats Roger! :worship:

adee-gee
09-10-2006, 11:37 PM
how tacky to ask federer about tiger as the first damn question??? :mad:
You Fedtards really will find anything to whine about won't you? :rolleyes:

PamV
09-10-2006, 11:37 PM
I'm very happy Roger won:banana: But, it was hard to truly celebrate because I love Andy and it made me sad to see the hurt look on his face:sad:

Congrats Roger:hug: Sorry Andy:hug:

Andy can feel good about getting to the final and taking a set from Roger. Maybe Andy will win Madrid or Paris and that will put a smile back on his face. Don't worry.

It was a great match.

jonas
09-10-2006, 11:37 PM
Gongrats Rogi! :worship:

Awesome performance. That was a brutal match. One of the best GS-finals in years.

I'm really glad to see Andy back in form. He deserves to be in the top 5. :)

Roger is just too good. No one gets near his qualitys. And he still seems to get better.
Man, what can you say. :rolleyes:

Dupuis2006
09-10-2006, 11:39 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:banana:

GlennMirnyi
09-10-2006, 11:42 PM
I'm wondering... where's the future #1? The one that would beat Roger in the US final?
:haha:

Great match Fedex!!!!!! 6 titles to pass Sampras... I guess that's one year and a half, right? :p
Good that Andy won a set at least... it could be a lot worse for him. :p

mallorn
09-10-2006, 11:43 PM
Great performance by Roger :hatoff: and big props to Andy for giving it his all and making it a real contest for two sets. :yeah:

The match left the ES commentators in a pool of drool. :lol:

Natasc
09-10-2006, 11:43 PM
and the King takes another one!!
Yeay Rogi!!
Congrats for this other slam!! :yeah: :hatoff:

Andy :sad:

deliveryman
09-10-2006, 11:44 PM
i'm anctious to read the post match press conference interview with Andy.

bokehlicious
09-10-2006, 11:45 PM
Well done Ninja ! Proud to be your fan... What brilliance at times :)

Jaffas85
09-10-2006, 11:46 PM
Just a shame about that French Open final otherwise it would have been the first calandar year grand slam in almost 50 years.

Unfortunately Nadal isn't intimidated by Federer's ability to win 3 of the year's 4 grand slams.

doris_hdz
09-10-2006, 11:47 PM
http://cache.****************/xt/71843119.jpg?v=1&g=afp&s=1

Martin
09-10-2006, 11:48 PM
Great stuff from Roger and it's always tremendous to win yet another slam! :D Edging closer to Sampras now and I'd love to see him win at Roland Garros next year.

Credit to Andy though, he's had a fantastic couple of weeks and it's very good for the game that he's back. :)

Fergie
09-10-2006, 11:49 PM
Rogi!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

DrJules
09-10-2006, 11:49 PM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day20/1701ms.html

The unreal figures :eek: :eek:

Federer 17 aces and 0 double faults.

And 69 winners to 19 unforced errors.

And breaking Roddick's serve 6 times (the previous 6 opponents managed 5 between them).

Was this the best Federer ever player?

radics
09-10-2006, 11:50 PM
What a sweet day. Thank you so much for all the joy Roger.

Congraturlations!

darnyelb
09-10-2006, 11:51 PM
Congrats Fed-man! Where is he on the list of all-time major winners? I can't remember anyone having 9.

Adler
09-10-2006, 11:53 PM
There was some guy before 2 WW, but I think the list should contain only players from 60s, which played in Open Era (since 1968)

scoobs
09-10-2006, 11:54 PM
Terrific quality match, the middle two sets were amazing tennis, hugely competitive and worthy of the stage they were on. Andy played such a good couple of sets and had Federer working the hardest I think he's had to do all year to win the tournament. He left it all out there tonight and should be proud and can hopefully build on that because I thought that's the best I've seen him play in terms of the quality of his tennis. But Roger - just a masterful performance - how he manages to switch it on for the final and just find his best is amazing. His numbers were outstanding, really. He wasn't rattled at any point in that match, even when it was VERY nip/tuck in the third set and he saved those 4bps.

Grand Slam #9. I could not be happier. What an end to a great tournament.

wally1
09-10-2006, 11:54 PM
69 winners to 19 UEs. +50, that's sick!!! :bowdown:Hantuchova had 49 winners to 12 UE's in a two set match v Srebotnik at Wimby this year (not that that means anything of course ;) )

martinatreue
09-10-2006, 11:55 PM
As expected. :rolleyes:


DICK Enberg specializes in awkward, tacky, stupid questions and comments. He is an old fart.

General Suburbia
09-10-2006, 11:55 PM
Expected result. Andy's playing better, enough to get a set but not a match. Very tough game from Federer, Andy was only able to get the upper hand when forcing Federer into errors. This guy didn't give Roddick anything. Great stuff from both players.

Although I felt kinda bad for Andy. He looked like he was about to cry after he lost the match.

rmb6687
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Truly excellent match from both players. And while Roger won yet again (the points he came up with were crazy) but Andy...

You were great...you played a great match and you took set of of Roger Effin Federer. You did more than many people thought you would, not only in this tournamnet but in that final. Good luck in the next few weeks...and we still love you.

Longshot
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Congrats Fed-man! Where is he on the list of all-time major winners? I can't remember anyone having 9.
Sampras 14
Emerson 12
Borg 11
Laver 11
Tilden 10
Federer 9

Agassi, Lendl, Connors, Perry, Rosewall 8


Really high quality play in 2nd and 3rd sets. Exciting and great to watch. Congrats to both players. :)

And congrats to Fed on GS win #9. :worship:

Tennis Fool
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Was this the best Federer ever player [sic]?

No. Not by a long shot.

All_Slam_Andre
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Excellent match. Congratulations to Federer on his ninth grand slam. He has won 3 grand slams out of 4 this year for the second time in his career. Amazing. On grass and the hardcourts, tennis is still a one man show. Federer is still way ahead of the chasing pack.

yanchr
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
HUGE CONGRATS ROGER!!!! I'M SO HAPPY SO HAPPY SO HAPPY!!! THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER TWO FANTASTIC WEEKS :banana: :banana: :banana:

Mechlan
09-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Congrats Roger! Superb in that fourth set, and well played match in all.

Much better match than I expected, well played by Andy to make it quite competitive. If a couple of points had gone his way in the third set, things would have been totally different. Props to both guys, I enjoyed it. :D

rmb6687
09-10-2006, 11:57 PM
Expected result. Andy's playing better, enough to get a set but not a match. Very tough game from Federer, Andy was only able to get the upper hand when forcing Federer into errors. This guy didn't give Roddick anything. Great stuff from both players.

Although I felt kinda bad for Andy. He looked like he was about to cry after he lost the match.

Yeah there was definitely some moisture around his eyes right before he got his check/plate.

doublebackhand
09-10-2006, 11:57 PM
congrats roger, awesome stuff! the 4th set was just vintage! the reason why we are fans :)
thanks andy as well for making it an entertaining match, the best i have seen u play. a lot of positives to be taken from the tournament.

napki
09-10-2006, 11:57 PM
Congrats on the 3rd USO title Roger. Terrific stuff. :worship:

Nice try from Andy, great fight! :yeah: next year, maybe... :p


I'm afraid he's still out of Fed's league... especially at the net. :lol:
Still, it's great to see him up there trying to do some damage.

blosson
09-10-2006, 11:58 PM
Andy is always the bridesmaid. :(

scarecrows
09-10-2006, 11:58 PM
Was this the best Federer ever player?


not by far

DrJules
09-10-2006, 11:58 PM
What is it that Federer has discovered about the Roddick serve that nobody else has discovered; winning 43% of receiving points and reducing Roddick to 7 aces. To every other player it is almost unplayable.

Timariot
09-10-2006, 11:59 PM
This wasn't a tournament - this was 2 week long victory ceremony for Federer...

yanchr
09-11-2006, 12:00 AM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day20/1701ms.html

The unreal figures :eek: :eek:

Federer 17 aces and 0 double faults.

And 69 winners to 19 unforced errors.

And breaking Roddick's serve 6 times (the previous 6 opponents managed 5 between them).

Was this the best Federer ever player?
Actually I don't think the match or the way Roger was playing is as good as the stats shows...but that stats is really sick...

J. Corwin
09-11-2006, 12:01 AM
I wish Andy were mentally into the match from the beginning and trusted his forehand more. It could have been a lot different but Andy's already exceeded expectations by coming so far. :yeah: He put up a great fight for two sets and he didn't get blown off the court so that's good. :lol:

congrats roger :)

deliveryman
09-11-2006, 12:02 AM
I think Roddick played better than he did in the Wimby '04 Final

yanchr
09-11-2006, 12:06 AM
I think Roddick played better than he did in the Wimby '04 Final
That's why he looked simply the saddest this time among all their meetings. He definitely thought he had a chance today. And the 3rd set was actually horrible to watch, I mean my nerves almost broke down.

bandabou
09-11-2006, 12:06 AM
just too good today by Roger...the 2nd and 3rd sets were great stuff..once Roger won that 3rd set, we all knew it was all over. Some sick stats by Roger again..

Bagelicious
09-11-2006, 12:08 AM
I think Roddick played better than he did in the Wimby '04 Final

I'm not sure I agree with you on this, but I definitely think the amount of fight he showed in the second and third sets was impressive. He still needs some serious work on that net game though, I cringed everytime he came up because he either dumped it into the net or got passed. All in all, it was a great show from him with plenty of positives to take away. :yeah:

Congrats Roger! There was a bit of a tough time out there, but you pulled it out! :worship: :banana: : :D

lalaland
09-11-2006, 12:09 AM
Actually I don't think the match or the way Roger was playing is as good as the stats shows...but that stats is really sick...

I thought the same. A really loose game he played in the 2nd. Nevertheless, he is almost perfect. Congrats, Fed.

And for a set and a half, I was a little worried that he may not be able to hold off Roddick. It just shows that Roddick played exceptionally well. I think he challenged Fed even better than that final in Wimby. Then he made this little comment about having fun and I wonder if that jinx him a bit, and certainly irritated JMac a hell lot.

Jennay
09-11-2006, 12:10 AM
:sobbing: The first and fourth sets were disappointing, but great stuff in the 2nd and 3rd. That 3rd set had me ripping my hair out. :( Really proud of Andy though, I certainly didn't think he would make the finals. :hug: :hug:

Congrats to Roger.

Regenbogen
09-11-2006, 12:13 AM
Andy :sad: :hug:

Roger really stepped it up when he needed to, a pretty good match from both players :D

trequartista
09-11-2006, 12:14 AM
What is it that Federer has discovered about the Roddick serve that nobody else has discovered; winning 43% of receiving points and reducing Roddick to 7 aces. To every other player it is almost unplayable.Rog I think has said more than once that he's able to read ball tosses very well...he's a great returner as is, but this for Roddick makes it MUCH harder to hit aces and/or get cheap points off of his serve. It's not often that you'll see a game where Roddick is out-aced 17 to 7! :eek:

LoveFifteen
09-11-2006, 12:16 AM
Congrats to Andy for making it an enjoyable match to watch. I had assumed he was going to be destroyed by Federer in three uncompetitive sets. So props to Andy.

I wish Andy was an excellent volleyer because then their matches would be more enjoyable to watch. Roddick is just so helpless at net against the Mighty Fed, but honestly, so are a lot of other players.

Purple Rainbow
09-11-2006, 12:18 AM
Rog I think has said more than once that he's able to read ball tosses very well...he's a great returner as is, but this for Roddick makes it MUCH harder to hit aces and/or get cheap points off of his serve. It's not often that you'll see a game where Roddick is out-aced 17 to 7! :eek:

I believe Federer has out-aced Andy every time they have met recently.

GlennMirnyi
09-11-2006, 12:22 AM
Federer has a very good return of serve because he blocks the serve very well. No need to make a swing or something like that. Just blocking it so it bounces really close the baseline is enough to make Roddick start the point again. Without his serve advantage, Roddick has no chance against Fed from the baseline.

LCeh
09-11-2006, 12:24 AM
Great great match. I thought both players played well. I think Andy served just about as good as he can possibly serve in the second and third set. Unbelievable serving display from Roddick there. I don't have the stats, but I would say he was serving around mid to high 70% first serves in, and most of them were 130mph bombs. I cannot believe how well Roger returned, winning 43% of the returning points when Andy was getting around 70% first serves in for the match is simply unheard of.

In the end, I think all the fight Andy showed in the second and third set really took its toll on Andy both physically and mentally while Roger relaxed and played even better. But overall it was an exciting final. :)

LCeh
09-11-2006, 12:25 AM
I believe Federer has out-aced Andy every time they have met recently.

Not in Cincy 05 final I believe. But other than that, Roger has out-aced Andy almost every time they have met I think.

scoobs
09-11-2006, 12:27 AM
Roddick has been out-aced by Federer in 10 of their 12 meetings, so I'm told. Astonishing. But then Roger does read the Roddick serve extremely well, and Roddick less so with Federer's.

robinhood
09-11-2006, 12:27 AM
The 2nd and 3rd sets were a bit annoying because apart from that one sloppy first game in the second, he was clearly out-playing Roddick and yet couldn't break.
All credit to Roddick for working his serve at the right moments and making it a tight match.

Jimnik
09-11-2006, 12:31 AM
Congrats to Federer :clap2: :awww: I think that was his best peformance ever.
In that 3rd set he hit 23 winners and only 2 unforced errors. :eek:

Andy sliced and volleyed very well in the 2nd and 3rd sets but after the last game of the 3rd set, Andy lost the plot. He went back to playing his old pre-Connors tennis, coming in on poor approach shots and trying to rally with Federer from the back of the court.

But some encouraging signs. Hopefully he'll learn from the experience.

Fedex
09-11-2006, 12:46 AM
Congrats Roger. :D :worship: I really enjoyed this match. Federer played superb tennis, for the most part. To Roddick's credit he really made Federer work hard for two sets, but in the end, Federer was way too good.

Sierra Whisky 19
09-11-2006, 12:53 AM
Congrats, Roger! Brilliant match.

Congrats to Andy aswell, great tournament, and signs that the A-Rod of old is back. Good to see.

But back to Fed: the first man ever to win the Wimbledon-USOpen double three years in a row.

Only the third man in the open era to win three Opens in a row, after JMac and Lendl.

He is now clear of open era greats such as Connors, Lendl and Agassi (although you have to bump AA up a level with the Career Slam).

All the Fed-hatas must be calling the Samaritans now :p

NYCtennisfan
09-11-2006, 12:57 AM
Watched the match in person this afternoon and evening. That was the best Federer has ever hit the ball. FH and BH were hit extremely hard. The groundstrokes were much better struck than even his match with Hewitt in 2004. Without Roddick's new and improved defense and BH, he would've lost 2, 3, and 1 easy. Incredible stuff out there.

Art&Soul
09-11-2006, 01:07 AM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: Congrats ROGI :worship: :worship: :worship: I Love ROGEROMINATION :banana: He's the best ever to play the game and its so cool to see Tiger Good there. :rocker: :rocker: RŐCK ON ROGELIO :rocker2:

chicky841
09-11-2006, 01:07 AM
Nice win for Fed, but im more happy about how Andy played. :D

Take this form into the last of the season Andy

drf716
09-11-2006, 01:11 AM
2 of my most "unliked" tennis players
congratulations

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 01:14 AM
ownage!!! :p
Nah, i'll save my full on fedtard gloating for later.

Props to Roddick imo, he came out and gave it his all for the 2nd and 3rd sets.. played high risk with going to the net so much, maybe not his strengh but have to admire his stubborness to the different tactic... Fed broke just at the right time as a 3rd set TB coulda gone anyway.

and how cool was it with Tiger Woods in Fed's box :) , that made my day.
and Tiger's wife... i mean, most famous man on the planet, best sportsman in the world... 12 majors, half a billion in the bank, is that not enough? nope.. has to have a wife who looks like that as well :inlove:

Pea
09-11-2006, 01:17 AM
PWNED!

Allez!
Vamos!
Come on!
Woot!

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 01:19 AM
And Federer +50 differential on winners/UE.
that is what this man does in GS finals ladies and gentleman.

pmhong
09-11-2006, 01:20 AM
Most tennis experts and players used to say that Roger's biggest weapon was by far his forehand. This year, the players have been saying that it is becoming more and more difficult to play against his backhand. This final totally proved to me how strong Roger's backhand has become. I remember Roger miss hitting a lot of backhand in the US final against Andre. Today, his backhand was just devastating consistently.

Andy played great. He should have been born few years earlier and he would have won 3 to 4 grand slams. Lucky for Hewitt. He sneaked in when Sampras was old and Federer was still developing. The only player that could have played toe to toe with Roger is Pete Sampras. The only way to end that argument is for Roger to win the French. He is getting close.

Mimi
09-11-2006, 01:23 AM
congratulations roger :worship:
poor andy :sad: :sad:

alelysafina
09-11-2006, 01:25 AM
:bounce: Roger!! :D :bounce:

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 01:35 AM
<-- look at my avatar
repeat baby!!

mickymouse
09-11-2006, 01:44 AM
Only Federer can make Roddick in his top form win only 1 game in a set.
He really deserves this win.

federated
09-11-2006, 01:46 AM
Roddick has been out-aced by Federer in 10 of their 12 meetings, so I'm told. Astonishing. But then Roger does read the Roddick serve extremely well, and Roddick less so with Federer's.

I remember reading somewhere that Fed said he likes to beat players at their own game (hence his questionable behind the baseline tactics in the FO final) to further dominate them/gain a psychological edge. The bitch is cold.

EasternWind
09-11-2006, 01:50 AM
Wow Roger, Congrats! Sometimes you're just too good. #9 now.

Doris Loeffel
09-11-2006, 01:54 AM
Well done Roger!!!
Again you showed your best tennis when it mattered most and thanks for serving it home ;)!!

Kip
09-11-2006, 01:56 AM
No. Not by a long shot.
And that's the scary part! :lol:

Roger still has things he
can improve upon to make
him an even better Champion! :cool:

alfonsojose
09-11-2006, 02:06 AM
:zzz: Pistol Fed domination in progress :yawn:

leng jai
09-11-2006, 02:10 AM
So that leaves Haas to be the only player that has pushed him to 5 sets in a slam this year :D :D :D. And Rafa beating him of course..

Havok
09-11-2006, 02:10 AM
Federer ALWAYS plays his absolute best tennis vs Roddick. Just goes to show you how much Roger respects Andy's game and abilities. Congrats on your 9th Slam pretty impressive.:yeah:

Andy :sad::hug:, Too bad that all his 3 Slam finals after his USO win came against Federer. Had they not, he would have easily have more Slams to his credit. After such a disasterous start, Andy really kicked it up a few notches and played really well in sets 2 and 3. He really should have broken at *1-2 in that 3rd set but Roger is Roger and fought out that game. Tightened up while serving to force a tie-breaker then was just mentaly zapped and because of that he was physicaly not up to is as he was earlier and went down easy in the final set. With this result, he shut a whole lot of cridits and hater up by completele exceeding expectations and getting to the finals. He should really build up on this awesome result. Yeah he lost to Federer yet again, but who else isn't besides Nadal?:shrug: He was able to take a set off Federer and push him like hell and forced Roger to produce SICK #'s in order to win this match, just like he always does when he has to face Roger. Both these guys have incredible respect for eachother both as a player and a person and it's really nice to see. The only think that sucks is that Federer totally owns Roddick. This could have really been one of the greatest rivalries in tennis history, but Roger is simply put too damn good.:(:p

Havok
09-11-2006, 02:14 AM
I remember reading somewhere that Fed said he likes to beat players at their own game (hence his questionable behind the baseline tactics in the FO final) to further dominate them/gain a psychological edge. The bitch is cold.
Fed doesn't outace Roddick because he wants to beat him at his own game :retard:. The reason why he outaces him (note OUTACE not # of unreturnable serves) is because Roger literally paints the lines with his serves and Roddick struggles immensly vs that type of serve, or ismply put good serves period. Federer slices/blocks everything back so it's incredibly tough to get aces on Federer. Everyone has trouble acing him though it's nothing new. He's like a wall when he's returning serve.

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 02:58 AM
the aces battle..
A-Rod just is not "big enough" for Roger
:angel:

brent-o
09-11-2006, 03:00 AM
I think Andy can take a lot of positives away from this tournament. However, during the match, something struck me: there is nothing Andy can do that in any way challenges Federer from the baseline. Once they get into a rally, Andy has to work his ass off while Federer effortlessly ran him around. Nevertheless, Andy made it competitive by sheer will and desire so maybe he'll get lucky once and make it 11-2.

tangerine_dream
09-11-2006, 03:03 AM
Only Federer can make Roddick in his top form win only 1 game in a set.
Roddick was in his top form? :lol:

I think Roddick played better than he did in the Wimby '04 Final
:spit: :haha:

tripb19
09-11-2006, 03:17 AM
Was this the best Federer ever player?
No, he reserves that for Hewitt.

mangoes
09-11-2006, 03:29 AM
I think Andy can make a serious run, during the indoor season, to end the year at no. 3.

lordmanji
09-11-2006, 03:38 AM
The only chance Roddick has is what Sharapova did to Justine and is a variation on the strategy Pete at Tennis World - stop Fed from revving up his game by serving and vollley - advises and that is to go for broke. Sharapova knew she could hold her serve and so she went for broke on Justine's games. Actually, she went for broke on her games too but she knew she could makeup for any ues w/ an ace. Granted, Justine is not the caliber of level as Roger is and it would be much harder to do that to Roger, but for a set in the 2nd and most of the 3rd, that was exactly what Andy did. Andy needs to throw caution to the wind on the return of serve. Period.

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 03:42 AM
Yeah, the revised 'champions race' -current performaces in 06 alone- standings after this event

1.Federer 1,324
2.Nadal 825.
3.Roddick 434.
4.Davydenko 418.
5.Ljubicic 416. (Ljubo back behind Roddick Jerry :bolt: )
6.Robredo 374.
7.Nalbandian 370.
8.Blake 365.

top 8 looking good for Shanghai.

9.Baggy 335.
10.Haas 318
Ancic 318.

mangoes
09-11-2006, 03:44 AM
Yeah, the revised 'champions race' -current performaces in 06 alone- standings after this event

1.Federer 1,324
2.Nadal 825.
3.Roddick 434.
4.Davydenko 418.
5.Ljubicic 416. (Ljubo back behind Roddick Jerry :bolt: )
6.Robredo 374.
7.Nalbandian 370.
8.Blake 365.

top 8 looking good for Shanghai.

9.Baggy 335.
10.Haas 318
Ancic 318.

Wow..........didn't realize he was already at 3. Given Ljubicic's dismal performances, as of late, I have doubts about him defending all his indoor points:shrug: Nice to see Davydenko at no. 4.

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 03:44 AM
Heh i just noticed, if the top 8 stayed like that and the group format at Shanghai went by 1,3,5,7 rankings, the group would be Federer, Roddick, Ljubicic and Nalbandian :eek:

soraya
09-11-2006, 03:49 AM
The only chance Roddick has is what Sharapova did to Justine and is a variation on the strategy Pete at Tennis World - stop Fed from revving up his game by serving and vollley - advises and that is to go for broke. Sharapova knew she could hold her serve and so she went for broke on Justine's games. Actually, she went for broke on her games too but she knew she could makeup for any ues w/ an ace. Granted, Justine is not the caliber of level as Roger is and it would be much harder to do that to Roger, but for a set in the 2nd and most of the 3rd, that was exactly what Andy did. Andy needs to throw caution to the wind on the return of serve. Period.

Ohh! ok, for a second I thought you were suggesting the banana and the sips from the 4 bottles..;) No chance either way.

mangoes
09-11-2006, 03:53 AM
Heh i just noticed, if the top 8 stayed like that and the group format at Shanghai went by 1,3,5,7 rankings, the group would be Federer, Roddick, Ljubicic and Nalbandian :eek:


Instant headache:lol: :lol: :lol: I can't believe we can't get, at least, Robredo.

World Beater
09-11-2006, 04:14 AM
wtf how can baghdatis not qualify...he's like had the best slam results third to fed and nadal, davy

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 04:18 AM
Baggy is not out of it by any means, only 30 points of the pace with plenty to play for. :)
not as good results in the TMS or small titles won probably why he is lagging..

World Beater
09-11-2006, 04:23 AM
Baggy is not out of it by any means, only 30 points of the pace with plenty to play for. :)
not as good results in the TMS or small titles won probably why he is lagging..

yeah i know...i just think he could be more dangerous than boredo and davydeko.

Billabong
09-11-2006, 04:27 AM
I'm still amazed by Fed's victory:worship: He was awesome today:yeah: Congrats man for your 9th GS title, 3rd USO title and 3rd straight Wim-USO combo:woohoo:!!! Keep it up man, you're fantastic:bounce:!!!

landoud
09-11-2006, 04:29 AM
well done Roger... it's a shame I couldn't watch

Brianna
09-11-2006, 05:10 AM
Congrats Roger! :yeah:

R.Federer
09-11-2006, 05:30 AM
Roddick was in his top form? :lol:


:spit: :haha:
Yes, I think that's what he said
" I wanted to make it tough. I played my heart out. I tried my best. You know, I'm excited. I feel like I have a lot of room for improvement still. I just got to keep working. That's it. "

Björki
09-11-2006, 05:31 AM
Congrats Roger :clap2:

Andy :hug:

RonE
09-11-2006, 05:34 AM
Awesome!!! :banana: Roger you're just awesome no superlatives left :worship:

Big congrats to Andy I am really happy to see him back in business and let's hope this is not just a blip and that he stays a constant fixture in the top 10 and goes deep in tournaments. Nice try, kid :hug:

I thought I would watch the match live last night but I was so fucked I just went to sleep and recorded it instead. Great news to wake up to! Can't wait to watch it :)

sawan66278
09-11-2006, 05:37 AM
Congratualations to Roger...well played...a few observations about today's match:

1. The inordinate amount of winners by Federer were a hugh byproduct of Roddick's pathetic backhand and return game...He hit SO MANY shot short...While it is clear the Roger would have had more winners than unforced errors, I feel Nadal actually would have had a great chance of beating him...because of his ability to hit deep balls, and when not doing so, being able to track down a lot of Roger's shots...

2. Roger's net game has deteriorated greatly...not so much because he cannot volley, but has not gotten much practice because he really doesn't need to volley anymore.

3. Boris Becker and Stefan Edberg, in their primes, would have been the greatest challenges to Roger...blanketing the net worked well for Andy...and he is a mediocre net player to say the least....

4. What is amazing is that if Roger had won one point (against Safin) and Rafa did not exist, Roger would have probably won 10 slams in a row!!!!!!!! :eek:

R.Federer
09-11-2006, 05:40 AM
4. What is amazing is that if Roger had won one point (against Safin) and Rafa did not exist, Roger would have probably won 10 slams in a row!!!!!!!! :eek:

While I would like to think that, there is no saying how Roger would have fared against Hewitt in his home slam (the H2H notwithstanding) or against whoever he played against in the French.

World Beater
09-11-2006, 05:44 AM
Congratualations to Roger...well played...a few observations about today's match:

1. The inordinate amount of winners by Federer were a hugh byproduct of Roddick's pathetic backhand and return game...He hit SO MANY shot short...While it is clear the Roger would have had more winners than unforced errors, I feel Nadal actually would have had a great chance of beating him...because of his ability to hit deep balls, and when not doing so, being able to track down a lot of Roger's shots...

2. Roger's net game has deteriorated greatly...not so much because he cannot volley, but has not gotten much practice because he really doesn't need to volley anymore.

3. Boris Becker and Stefan Edberg, in their primes, would have been the greatest challenges to Roger...blanketing the net worked well for Andy...and he is a mediocre net player to say the least....

4. What is amazing is that if Roger had won one point (against Safin) and Rafa did not exist, Roger would have probably won 10 slams in a row!!!!!!!! :eek:


becker and edberg couldnt serve at 140 mph. so roger would have probably returned even better, and on the baseline, they are no match against federer.

yes they have to get into net to have some effect, but you cant chip and charge federer, you will be toast. you must come in on a good approach shot, not easy to do when your baseline game is inferior to federer's.

Mechlan
09-11-2006, 06:31 AM
Congratualations to Roger...well played...a few observations about today's match:

3. Boris Becker and Stefan Edberg, in their primes, would have been the greatest challenges to Roger...blanketing the net worked well for Andy...and he is a mediocre net player to say the least....


Roger was pretty dismal at passing today, but Edberg would have been in trouble coming in to net every point once Roger got the range on his passing shots. Though it's hard to compare because obviously rackets today are not what they were 15 years ago.

blueskye
09-11-2006, 06:56 AM
Congrats Roger :) !! Andy played well, but just couldn't reach Rogers level, but he has had a good harcourt season so atleast he should be proud about that :bounce:

J. Corwin
09-11-2006, 08:06 AM
Yes, I think that's what he said
" I wanted to make it tough. I played my heart out. I tried my best. You know, I'm excited. I feel like I have a lot of room for improvement still. I just got to keep working. That's it. "

Trying your best and actually producing and playing your best tennis are very different. ;)

Andy so did not play his best in the 1st and 4th sets. :haha::haha: Only a :cuckoo: would think he did. :lol:

Action Jackson
09-11-2006, 08:18 AM
Never in doubt.

oz_boz
09-11-2006, 09:15 AM
:woohoo:

Great match from both. Nice to see Andy's improvements in two departments: fighting spirit - in earlier meetings, he would have rolled over after Roger's display of power in the first set - and backhand, that kept him hanging on in the rallies until the third set was over. That was probably the best part of the match: both holding their serves until the very last game, Andy taking the 3-3 game after 7 deuces to still make it a match, and almost getting a tiebreak in a set where Fed was 20-3 in winners/UE :eek:
Andy also did well with his approach shots, even if he got passed numerous times he forced Fed to come up with the goods at those points.

Roger did well to impose his game to break Andy down mentally, the first set could have been devastating but Andy came back. In the early break in the fourth, Fed probably realized that he could close the match right there, and he did. Roddick's game and fighting spirit (and stamina) broke down, he was just happy to avoid a bagel. Roger was maybe a bit surprised that Andy kept fighting for so long, but he never seemed to be in doubt about the outcome.

I said after 2004 that Roger could not have a better year. Then came 2005, which was just as good. And now this. :worship:
Andy :hatoff: Well done, and welcome back to the top ten.

rrfnpump
09-11-2006, 09:24 AM
Roger :yippee: :D
one sloppy game which cost him the second set, but the rest was great

Apemant
09-11-2006, 10:58 AM
Wow..........didn't realize he was already at 3. Given Ljubicic's dismal performances, as of late, I have doubts about him defending all his indoor points:shrug:

For Shangai, it doesn't count as 'defending' but 'winning'. It doesn't matter if he won them last year, only how everyone does this year, from now on.

Furthermore, there is no real reason to think Luby will play bad this autumn. It's almost a tradition for him to play below average in summer. Last year, for example, he did a great year start, then did next to nothing during the whole summer.

Of course, this autumn Roger will be around (most likely), which makes it 3 times harder for him already. :devil: I just don't see Luby winning against Roger if Roger is physically well.

tangerine_dream
09-11-2006, 11:38 AM
Trying your best and actually producing and playing your best tennis are very different. ;)

Andy so did not play his best in the 1st and 4th sets. :haha::haha: Only a :cuckoo: would think he did. :lol:
Fedtards, Jace. This is a group that smugly claimed Federer would roll over Roddick like a Zamboni but then act amazed, surprised, and awed when he wins. :lol:

sawan66278
09-11-2006, 01:38 PM
On the earlier post, I didn't mean chip and charge...good approaches...and with today's racquets, Boris would be serving in the 130's...in many ways, these two players would be even harder match-ups for Roger, in my mind, than say Connors or Lendl...

One other observation, it seems that players, once they go down two sets to one against Federer, throw in the towel...interesting...

supersexynadal
09-11-2006, 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by J. Corwin
Trying your best and actually producing and playing your best tennis are very different.

Andy so did not play his best in the 1st and 4th sets. Only a would think he did.

Only a cuckoo would say what u said.

I didnt even watch the match and there are no repeats :'( cant believe this!! I watched the first set then i had to sleep and i went to school with 4 hourse of sleep..Stupid broadcasting network

anserq
09-11-2006, 01:57 PM
Well done Fed :D

Too good again. I won't get bored with performances like that (especially when playing Duck)

lol!! :cool:

NYCtennisfan
09-11-2006, 02:40 PM
On the earlier post, I didn't mean chip and charge...good approaches...and with today's racquets, Boris would be serving in the 130's...in many ways, these two players would be even harder match-ups for Roger, in my mind, than say Connors or Lendl...

One other observation, it seems that players, once they go down two sets to one against Federer, throw in the towel...interesting...

Boris would be serving at 50%-55%. Boris almost never served above 60% and that would be the kiss of death against Federer. In fact, nobody has ever come close to serving as big with such a high % as Roddick. He routinely serves at 65% or better. Becker might have done that a handful of times.

silverarrows
09-11-2006, 02:47 PM
Another day in the office. Business as usual for Fed. :cool:

Congrats! I'm so happy for your success. Wish you all the best for the years to come. ;)

gillian
09-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Andy did really well to get himself to the final, especially after the loss at Wimbledon.

But another great performance by Roger! Congratulations.

stebs
09-11-2006, 04:39 PM
In sets 3 and 4 Roddick played every bit as well as he did in the first two sets of Wimby '04. Roger played unbelievable for all but that one game in the second set.

Black Adam
09-11-2006, 05:47 PM
Welcome Back Andy. I think he has a shot at ending the year as number 3 :)

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 05:54 PM
Andy so did not play his best in the 1st and 4th sets. :haha: :haha: Only a :cuckoo: would think he did. :lol: Yeah well, sometimes an opponent is not allowed to play his best according to what the other player is doing.

:retard:

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 06:00 PM
Fedtards, Jace. This is a group that smugly claimed Federer would roll over Roddick like a Zamboni but then act amazed, surprised, and awed when he wins. :lol:

i think you'll find MOST of mtf predicted a swiss roll over.
lol

On the earlier post, I didn't mean chip and charge...good approaches...and with today's racquets, Boris would be serving in the 130's...in many ways, these two players would be even harder match-ups for Roger, in my mind, than say Connors or Lendl...

One other observation, it seems that players, once they go down two sets to one against Federer, throw in the towel...interesting...Here wo go again
lol

next slam fed wins, expect this guy to post something like "Bill Tilden would have troubled fed with his two balls in one hand ball toss"

scarecrows
09-11-2006, 06:04 PM
While I would like to think that, there is no saying how Roger would have fared against Hewitt in his home slam (the H2H notwithstanding) or against whoever he played against in the French.

lol

probably Hewitt could have avoided a bagel in his home slam

nobama
09-11-2006, 06:05 PM
i think you'll find MOST of mtf predicted a swiss roll over.
lolMaybe, but most fans in the Fed forum didn't. But it's fine, she's just trying to bait. Probably disappointed that her prediction of all these Roddick bashing threads started by "fedtards" didn't come true. :lol:

scarecrows
09-11-2006, 06:06 PM
next slam fed wins, expect this guy to post something like "Bill Tilden would have troubled fed with his two balls in one hand ball toss"

:lol:

WF4EVER
09-11-2006, 06:54 PM
i think you'll find MOST of mtf predicted a swiss roll over.
lol

Here wo go again
lol

next slam fed wins, expect this guy to post something like "Bill Tilden would have troubled fed with his two balls in one hand ball toss"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You're a real ass. You know that, right?

Congrats, Rogi. You are indeed the best and I'm so lucky to be seeing your magnificence on the tennis court.

If not for that minor lapse in the first game of the third, Roddick would have been with Screamapova earlier to celebrate her victory.

musefanatic
09-11-2006, 07:04 PM
Great match, all I can say is Well done Roger!!!!! :)

Allez
09-11-2006, 07:06 PM
Rogi is alive and well. All is well in men's tennis :yeah::yeah::yeah:

RonE
09-11-2006, 07:18 PM
lol

probably Hewitt could have avoided a bagel in his home slam

As he did in 2004? ;)

Corey Feldman
09-11-2006, 07:27 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You're a real ass. You know that, right?Yes :)

Jlee
09-11-2006, 08:59 PM
Great effort Roger, way to step it up at the right moments ;)

Important match for Andy as well...winning a set for the first time in two and a half years is always nice. Keep it up :yeah:

Eden
09-11-2006, 09:55 PM
If the world really needed a proof who the number one of tennis is - here you have it :)

What a great match of both players :yeah: Congrats to Andy for challenging Roger and pushing him to play his best. It is such a pleasure to see Roger playing and all tennis fans who love the beauty of the game can look forward to the future :)

Rogers mission is still going on and I'm so glad to be able to witness this champion :)

Congratulations for this well deserved trophy :bounce:

J. Corwin
09-12-2006, 12:58 AM
Yeah well, sometimes an opponent is not allowed to play his best according to what the other player is doing.

:retard:

Right, because Andy was just hitting through his forehands and making as many first serves as he did in previous matches. :rolleyes:

Corey Feldman
09-12-2006, 01:11 AM
Here, have a Fedtard hug :hug:

sawan66278
09-12-2006, 01:37 AM
Let's not forget, when talking about serves, that Boris served a heavy, heavy ball...while maybe not as fast, it was very heavy...much like Lendl's...Roddick's has pace, but not the variety of Sampras or the "umph" of Boris...That is why it is much easier to block back...Ask anyone who plays the game, the heavier balls with spin are always harder to return, if you can get a racquet on them, than those that are simply bullets.

mickymouse
09-12-2006, 05:54 AM
Roddick was in his top form? :lol:


:spit: :haha:

He was undeniably in his top form coming into the finals. Just look at the superlatives surrounding his win over Hewitt. Just because he lost, he's not in top form? You can say he could have played better in the final but you can't deny that he came into the match with confidence and with many predicting he may just be able to upset Federer. Sure, he could have played better but Federer didn't play his best too, not if you compare it to the Wimbledon final last year.

J. Corwin
09-12-2006, 05:58 AM
He was undeniably in his top form coming into the finals. Just look at the superlatives surrounding his win over Hewitt. Just because he lost, he's not in top form? You can say he could have played better in the final but you can't deny that he came into the match with confidence and with many predicting he may just be able to upset Federer. Sure, he could have played better but Federer didn't play his best too, not if you compare it to the Wimbledon final last year.

That was kind of the point, that Andy could have played better, aka not playing his best ("at his top"). ;) Sure Andy played in top form against Hewitt but he did not play his best against Youzhny in the semis, and only played slightly better in the final (when you also count the 1st and 4th sets). Is a player playing very well from one match to not so well in the next match that hard to understand? :shrug:

mickymouse
09-12-2006, 06:35 AM
That was kind of the point, that Andy could have played better, aka not playing his best ("at his top"). ;) Sure Andy played in top form against Hewitt but he did not play his best against Youzhny in the semis, and only played slightly better in the final (when you also count the 1st and 4th sets). Is a player playing very well from one match to not so well in the next match that hard to understand? :shrug:

Would it make you feel better then if I make the distinction that he was in top form beating Hewitt (since he won in straights), and in okay form beating Youzhny (he lost 1 set after all), but in the final, his form was horrible?

J. Corwin
09-12-2006, 06:50 AM
But his form wasn't horrible in the final, just not top form as you claimed earlier. ;)
And if you actually read what I wrote, I said he played better in the final than in the semi...not going from okay form to horrible.

But whatever floats your boat. :)

tangerine_dream
09-12-2006, 02:48 PM
Just because he lost, he's not in top form?
No. Personally, I don't believe that either Roddick or Federer played their best in the final. The ones who are saying that "Roger played his best" or "Andy played his best" have never really seen these guys at their best.

You can say he could have played better in the final but you can't deny that he came into the match with confidence and with many predicting he may just be able to upset Federer.
Many were predicting a straight set beat-down. Who was predicting the upset (besides PMac)?

And Roddick coming out as nervous as ever in the first set doesn't say to me that he was brimming with confidence. But that's jmo.

Here, have a Fedtard hug :hug:
Aww. A Federbear hug. :hug:

stebs
09-12-2006, 02:56 PM
I don't believe that either Roddick or Federer played their best in the final. The ones who are saying that "Roger played his best" or "Andy played his best" have never really seen these guys at their best.


You have to look at things with perspective. People don't mean they are playing the best they have ever played but two players both playing at their very best will probably never happen. There are two many things which affect the level of play for that to happen and for two and a half sets of the final Roddick and Federer played as well as they can do against one another.

Roddick can't play his best tennis against Federer because of the way he is restricted this is less true the other way round but Roddick played really well. Certainly well enough to stop Federer from playing at his highest level.

WF4EVER
09-12-2006, 04:19 PM
I agree, Stebs. I don't know what is Roddick's best when it comes to Federer because while he has bullied other players with his serve in the past he could never do that to Feds.

In fact previously Roddick's serve was almost all his game with his so-called big forehand helping him to win, but now that he has incorporated the net play and back hand dtl I'd think his game should be even better than it ever was.

However, where Federer is concerned, nothing has changed because the other facets Roddick has incorporated into his game still produce the same end result: A loss to Federer.