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Why Americans dont like Federer?

Just Cause
09-09-2006, 12:47 AM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.

Sjengster
09-09-2006, 12:49 AM
I had some brickbats thrown at my own thread last night so am hesitant to criticise others, but I'm pretty sure this topic has been raised many times over the past fortnight.

mangoes
09-09-2006, 01:04 AM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.


Please show me where it says that Americans hate Federer?? I strongly disagree with the sentiment that Americans hate Federer. Americans have been lucky to have many wonderful past champions in the game of tennis. Americans are also very patriotic and believe in supporting their own.........as is the case in every other country in the world. Lastly, the issue of Roger's unpopularity, in the US, has a lot to do with the ATP's LACK of committment to marketing tennis to the US Market. As a whole, the ATP hasn't been doing a very good job in promoting the game of tennis. The ATP board hired a new executive to try and bridge that gap. However, as of right now, I, and many others, think a serious mistake was made in that appointment. Furthermore, I can even make a solid case for the fact that I do not think the ATP is doing enough to promote Andy and James.

Kalliopeia
09-09-2006, 02:01 AM
I don't think it's true that Americans in general don't like Federer. And if some of them don't I don't think it's because he's not American. My favorite players are Spanish and Russian and Cypriot. I don't even like the top American players.

Tennis Fool
09-09-2006, 02:06 AM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.
Realize that the US Open crowd aren't avid followers of tennis--they are there only because the Open is a big annual NYC sports event. Many know Federer by now from the press, but he's still a foreigner. If you read my report in the US Open forum, I note that the major faces are surburban families.

The more knowing followers of tennis are the dots in between, and do root for Feds.

Jlee
09-09-2006, 02:07 AM
I'm American and I'm a huge fan of Roger's game. McEnroe practically worships him...what are you talking about?

If you mean the way the crowd was acting during the Blake match it was because James is a popular American with a feel-good story. Besides, I was at the Roger match when he played Spadea and he had HUGE crowd support. People were doing the wave before he came out and chanting, "Roger! Roger! Roger!!!" And he was playing an American!! Americans in general do respect his game.

Fedever
09-09-2006, 02:13 AM
I don't think it's true that Americans in general don't like Federer. And if some of them don't I don't think it's because he's not American. My favorite players are Spanish and Russian and Cypriot. I don't even like the top American players.

I completely agree with this. I have never liked a player just because they are american, in fact I too do not like any top American players. My favorite players are: Federer and Safin. I also respect: Nadal, Baghdatis and Nalbandian. I was also a fan of Steffi Graf and Monica Seles. I can't remember the last American player I was interested in. I think hard core tennis fans like who they like and it doesn't matter where they are from.

I also DO NOT like Roddick!!!

Pigpen Stinks
09-09-2006, 02:16 AM
Ummm, are you on some kind of crusade to set a record for number of threads in one day?

For starters, Federer is extremely popular amongst US tennis fans. Just because they don't root for him when he plays Blake or Roddick doesn't mean he's not popular. Did you watch last year's final? They rooted for Agassi, of course, but were very supportive of Roger in victory.

Becker was extremely popular here as well. Graf became popular later in her career. She didn't have a very charasmatic personality, and was beating everyone to a pulp in the early part of her career, so that may have combined to make people a little less likely to cheer for her.

tennisphan
09-09-2006, 02:27 AM
The US media just began really taking about him last year, so people dont know him all to well yet.

People respect him very very much, and to say that Americans dont like hi is not an accurate statement.

selesfan
09-09-2006, 03:15 AM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.

:rolleyes: I know a lot of Americans that love Federer. I am # 1 on the list.

Just Cause
09-09-2006, 03:17 AM
:rolleyes: I know a lot of Americans that love Federer. I am # 1 on the list.
Were you there when the Americans were chanting against Federer? What #1 on the list, you would have been silenced by the chanting. I am not American and I hope Federer can win US Open.

mangoes
09-09-2006, 03:27 AM
Were you there when the Americans were chanting against Federer? What #1 on the list, you would have been silenced by the chanting. I am not American and I hope Federer can win US Open.

The Americans were not chanting against Roger. The J-Block was chanting against Roger. The Americans cheered for Blake because he is the American, but they were also appreciative of Roger.

I think a good match to consider is the 05 US Open final. Agassi was the crowd favorite, but at no time was there chanting against Roger. The crowd cheered heartily for him when he won. Don't judge Roger's likeability by last night's crowd. The J-Block was in the house.

I loved the crowd during Agassi's matches. It was electric and simply amazing. But, as Steve Tignor's blog said, today, "His J-block, which took the glamour factor in the building down about 10 notches, helped mainly by irritating Federer."

The J-Block did the same thing to Nadal, last year US Open, and it was more than obvious they got to him.

Just Cause
09-09-2006, 03:30 AM
The Americans were not chanting against Roger. The J-Block was chanting against Roger. The Americans cheered for Blake because he is the American, but they were also appreciative of Roger.

I think a good match to consider is the 05 US Open final. Agassi was the crowd favorite, but at no time was there chanting against Roger. The crowd cheered heartily for him when he won. Don't judge Roger's likeability by last night's crowd. The J-Block was in the house.

I loved the crowd during Agassi's matches. It was electric and simply amazing. But, as Steve Tignor's blog said, today, "His J-block, which took the glamour factor in the building down about 10 notches, helped mainly by irritating Federer."

The J-Block did the same thing to Nadal, last year US Open, and it was more than obvious they got to him.
That is true and I hate it. I mean, what's with that. Blake is so mature being the older of the two. I am glad he showed class at the end of the match.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-09-2006, 03:35 AM
Yeah, it's real classy to pay for a bunch of your friends to show up at your matches and act like arse clowns.

urock34
09-09-2006, 03:56 AM
he looks funny and his gf looks like a cow

Jlee
09-09-2006, 03:57 AM
Yeah, it's real classy to pay for a bunch of your friends to show up at your matches and act like arse clowns.

:rolleyes: They were cheering for their guy. Get over it.

Just Cause
09-09-2006, 04:01 AM
:rolleyes: They were cheering for their guy. Get over it.
Cheering?...That dont look like no cheering to me.
At least Blake apologizes for that, I can understand it if they chant against Hewitt, but against Federer, that not only puzzles me, that makes me mad.

Radek Stepanek
09-09-2006, 04:05 AM
Americans only like Americans, everyone else is the ENEMY!

Jlee
09-09-2006, 04:16 AM
Will you stop generalizing for all the Americans? Geez :rolleyes:

Cheering?...That dont look like no cheering to me.
At least Blake apologizes for that, I can understand it if they chant against Hewitt, but against Federer, that not only puzzles me, that makes me mad.

They obviously overdo it, but I would have a hard time doing anything less if it were my good friend on the court. Cheering against Federer is the same as cheering for Blake. If Federer missed a first serve and they cheered it was because they were thinking, "Yes! James has a second serve opportunity!" Not, "I hate Roger and I want him to lose!"

cmurray
09-09-2006, 04:43 AM
My favorite players are Nadal, Safin and Murray. Not an American in the bunch. A player's nationality doesn't matter AT ALL to who I like or don't.

Mimi
09-09-2006, 04:48 AM
why you create so many threads ;)? :p

Lendl's Forehand
09-09-2006, 05:56 AM
Americans don't hate Federer. To think this shows how out of touch you are on Americans. Even Federer himself knows Americans arent' against him. Watch his post-Blake match press conference. All this hysteria on here about the "horrible" behavior of the US Open crowds is flat out bizarre. Have you watched pro tennis tournaments in South American countries? Its so beyond the US Open crowd stuff its laughable. The Italian crowds at The Italian Open are 10 times worse than US Open crowds. The Italians have thrown coins and other things at opponents during points. The French Crowd at the French Open!!?? Did you see Grosjean v Nadal last year??!! Did you see and hear the French crowd in '83 when Noah won The French!!??

~Jin~
09-09-2006, 06:03 AM
Of course the crowd will support Blake . But Americans don't hate Roger.

MullerGasquetFan
09-09-2006, 06:05 AM
Well, techniquely patriotism takes over and we tend to root for our fellow americans. Well, I've always rooted against Federer never liked the man for some reason and root for everyone who goes up against him because he seems to win everything.

Sparko1030
09-09-2006, 06:16 AM
As an American, I don't hate Roger-I must admit I get weary of hearing ROger this and Roger that but that's not his fault :lol: I admire and repsect his immense talent but yet he's not my favorite. I have no NORTH Americans as my favs either-now SOUTH America is a different story.... ;)


No, give the US Open fans a break-think of the threads that would start would the crowd support a foriegn player over US players-doesn't mean we hate Rog. HOme town crowds always supoort hometown players no matter where the game is played-and there is always the "underdog" factor too. Crowds like to see the undedog win and when was the last time Rog was the underdog?

nkhera1
09-09-2006, 06:42 AM
I don't think Federer has really given people a reason to dislike him, but that doesn't mean they need to root for him over other players especially when those players come from the country the tournament happens to be in.

pancit
09-09-2006, 07:27 AM
Why do you make assumptions when you know nothing about American sports/entertainment/media??? Gather some facts before you start assuming things plz.

Winston's Human
09-09-2006, 01:01 PM
I do not think Americans dislike Federer. I just think that US Open fans tend to root harder for fellow Americans and for underdogs.

kabuki
09-09-2006, 01:40 PM
Don't forget these important facts about the US-

1. We are all absolutely, positively the same
2. You can easily throw us all in the same category, no matter the topic
3. We hate everyone else but other Americans

I could go on, but most people apparently know these facts around here already.

scoobs
09-09-2006, 01:46 PM
I love the US Open

I just wanted to say that. Thank you.

DrJules
09-09-2006, 02:20 PM
He is not American?

fadou
09-09-2006, 02:25 PM
i don't think americans hate federer : it's not because you watched us open crowd booed him , that means they dislike him
don't generalize them because i think a lot of american (who love tennis) like him and anothers players who aren't american

Kip
09-09-2006, 02:40 PM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.
Speak for yourself and stop generalizing
an entire country of people!

Many people living in the US love
Roger and i am one of them.

the cat
09-09-2006, 02:42 PM
From what I can tell Roger Federer is well liked and well respected by American tennis fans.

DrJules
09-09-2006, 02:55 PM
Americans only like Americans, everyone else is the ENEMY!

I suppose the USA vs. Rest of the World mentality cannot be expected to end only 16 years after the end of the cold war. However, to be fair to the Americans who naturally supported their own it was mostly mutual with non-Americans enjoying watching the Americans lose.

I actually really miss the USSR vs. USA rivalry; who could forget the basketball contest in 1972 and 1988 when the USSR beat the USA or the ice hockey in 1980 when the USA beat the USSR. Most non-Americans probably wanted to see the USSR beat the USA; all those winter and summer Olympics when the USSR lead the USA in the medals table.

Hopefully the rise of China will bring about another rivalry which will be launched in Beijing. Maybe memories of the glories USA vs. USSR can be reborn in the USA vs. China. Female Chinese tennis players have broken through in ladies doubles already. Maybe in singles next and mens events.

Why should we expect American to like foreign sports star when most of the world does not even like Americans?

LoveFifteen
09-09-2006, 04:13 PM
I love the US Open

I just wanted to say that. Thank you.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to scoobsuk again.

LoveFifteen
09-09-2006, 04:19 PM
Many American tennis fans love Federer and think he's unbelievable. When my friends and family (who are not huge tennis fans) watch parts of his matches, they are blown away by his talent and shot-making ability.

I'm tired of hearing this nonsense about Americans not "liking" Federer when more than a few non-Americans are so blantantly nasty and gleefully hateful towards Roddick, Agassi, and company. It's not as if Americans are more/less focused on nationality that anyone else.

I also love how Americans rooting for Americans is uber-nationalistic or "bad", but if Cyprus goes crazy for Bagdhatis, it's "beautiful". :rolleyes:

jh21
09-09-2006, 04:19 PM
after his first couple slams i wondered the same thing. but now that he has more under the belt i think the media (sportscenters, nytimes) is starting to realize how great he is, so i think i would disagree that americans hate him, because americans love winners.

rofe
09-09-2006, 04:23 PM
I don't think Americans hate Federer. They may be indifferent but they don't hate him.

If you want an example of hate, Argentinians' hatred of Hewitt is a good example.

DrJules
09-09-2006, 04:29 PM
I don't think Americans hate Federer. They may be indifferent but they don't hate him.
If you want an example of hate, Argentinians' hatred of Hewitt is a good example.

Caused and generated by Hewitt himself?

rofe
09-09-2006, 04:55 PM
Caused and generated by Hewitt himself?

Maybe but I was just citing an example of hate not the cause.

Just Cause
09-09-2006, 05:16 PM
I suppose the USA vs. Rest of the World mentality cannot be expected to end only 16 years after the end of the cold war. However, to be fair to the Americans who naturally supported their own it was mostly mutual with non-Americans enjoying watching the Americans lose.

I actually really miss the USSR vs. USA rivalry; who could forget the basketball contest in 1972 and 1988 when the USSR beat the USA or the ice hockey in 1980 when the USA beat the USSR. Most non-Americans probably wanted to see the USSR beat the USA; all those winter and summer Olympics when the USSR lead the USA in the medals table.

Hopefully the rise of China will bring about another rivalry which will be launched in Beijing. Maybe memories of the glories USA vs. USSR can be reborn in the USA vs. China. Female Chinese tennis players have broken through in ladies doubles already. Maybe in singles next and mens events.

Why should we expect American to like foreign sports star when most of the world does not even like Americans?
Chinese winning US Open beating Andy Roddick, well, that is certainly something I would like to see on centre court.

Warrior
09-09-2006, 06:30 PM
Roger is not well liked simply because there are not that many tennis fans here. There are mostly fans of American tennis. It don't think he is hated, but many American's are annoyed because he beats their favorite players. I went to Flushing Meadows this Sunday and saw a woman wearing a T-shirt that said, "Anyone but Federer"!

Pea
09-09-2006, 06:34 PM
Roger is not well liked simply because there are not that many tennis fans here. There are mostly fans of American tennis. It don't think he is hated, but many American's are annoyed because he beats their favorite players. I went to Flushing Meadows this Sunday and saw a woman wearing a T-shirt that said, "Anyone but Federer"!

Agreed. The level of patriotism conquers being a fan of tennis in general. :rolleyes:

swissfed
09-09-2006, 06:34 PM
Simply Because Federer is not the American , and beating all the players ....

RiemannLebesgue
09-10-2006, 01:17 AM
OK, my .02:

I don't hate Federer. The vast majority of US tennis fans don't hate Federer. They do, like fans from every other country, support their own players during matches. That doesn't mean we boo when Federer wins. No, we give him kudos for a job well done. But during the match, we're going to cheer for our own.

Patriotism is just as alive in european and south american countries as it is in the US. I have seen how crowds from other countries act when one of their own is playing on their home turf. It's very similar. As for treatment of the competition, I think Americans are actually pretty good in that respect.

tangerine_dream
09-10-2006, 01:31 AM
Roger definitely has his fans in the US. Americans certainly don't hate Roger, he just doesn't capture their imagination so much. That could change in a few years, though.

star
09-10-2006, 01:56 AM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.

I think Americans like Federer quite a bit. The American commentators simply salivate over him, and when I go to tennis tournaments people are extremely admiring of Federer. An American crowd is going to cheer more for an American player than for Federer, but tomorrow there will be a fair portion of the crowd cheering for Federer as well.

Federer doesn't generate a lot of excitement during tennis matches. That's the way he likes it. He likes to take the crowd out of the match not generate crowd noise. So, I think not having a lot of crowd support suits him just fine.

star
09-10-2006, 01:57 AM
Roger is not well liked simply because there are not that many tennis fans here. There are mostly fans of American tennis. It don't think he is hated, but many American's are annoyed because he beats their favorite players. I went to Flushing Meadows this Sunday and saw a woman wearing a T-shirt that said, "Anyone but Federer"!


And from that you gather that all Americans are annoyed by Federer? You missed all the American fans who absolutely adore Federer?

Jagermeister
09-10-2006, 02:03 AM
First of all, I know plenty of Americans that love Federer. Everyone on my tennis league are big fans and are very much American. So i think the title of the thread is just more whining by another Federer whiny fan who's making the other Federer fans look whiny.

I think Roddick is a big fan favorite but it definitely seems that Blake was getting more support. Is it just the J-block that is so loud or is it because Blake is the local boy? Then again, Connors was always treated like their favorite son and McEnroe was treated like he was from the USSR. :)

selesfan
09-10-2006, 02:37 AM
Were you there when the Americans were chanting against Federer? What #1 on the list, you would have been silenced by the chanting. I am not American and I hope Federer can win US Open.

Unfortunately I wasn't there or I would have been screaming until I lost my voice for him ;)

selesfan
09-10-2006, 02:39 AM
Don't forget these important facts about the US-

1. We are all absolutely, positively the same
2. You can easily throw us all in the same category, no matter the topic
3. We hate everyone else but other Americans

I could go on, but most people apparently know these facts around here already.

:lol:

DDrago2
09-10-2006, 03:12 AM
I don't think Americans are different towards Federer than any other country. People are more or less the same everywhere, medias differ however - and I would say that French medias are the most hostile towards Fed (anyone who watched Federer's RG 2006 matches know what I am speaking about...)

World Beater
09-10-2006, 03:14 AM
I don't think Americans are different towards Federer than any other country. People are more or less the same everywhere, medias differ however - and I would say that French medias are the most hostile towards Fed (anyone who watched Federer's RG 2006 matches know what I am speaking about...)

:confused:

practically everyone wanted nadal to lose...in fact i heard the whole lockerroom was cheering for fed. now thats unusual for a guy who's winning all the time.

DDrago2
09-10-2006, 03:52 AM
:confused:

practically everyone wanted nadal to lose...in fact i heard the whole lockerroom was cheering for fed. now thats unusual for a guy who's winning all the time.

most of the players and tennis lovers wanted him to win, yes - but I don't get how is that a reply to what I said?

Fedever
09-10-2006, 04:04 AM
How do you know that Americans don't like Federer? Can you provide anything to support this theory?

RogersGirl
09-10-2006, 04:09 AM
i tend to just lurk but thought i might add my two cents worth here... im a new yorker, lived across the street from flushing meadows for 17 years, and federer is my absolute favorite. true, new york crowds cheer a lot for their boys, but honestly who wouldnt? do you expect differently? you make a very inaccurate generalization by saying that americans dont like federer period. most will cheer for the american when federer plays one. but then again, they'll cheer for the american when he plays against most anyone else. the atp needs to do a better job at marketing tennis to the american public, but to say that americans hate or dislike federer is going a bit far.

World Beater
09-10-2006, 04:45 AM
most of the players and tennis lovers wanted him to win,
yes - but I don't get how is that a reply to what I said?

i would have thought the french and their media wanted fed to win over nadal.

certainly he had more crowd support.

bradrmattison
09-10-2006, 05:21 AM
Federer=Beterer

He's a true class act, but you don't see the Swiss routing for Roddick, do you?

R.Federer
09-10-2006, 06:07 AM
I don't think Americans dislike Roger at all. I have been at Arthur Ashe, and there are large pockets of the spectators rooting for him, many many Americans amongst them.
In fact, I think many of them might just be wishing that such a classy champion was American so they wouldn't feel so divided about supporting him :p

guy in sf
09-10-2006, 07:50 AM
Americans don't like Federer because...

1. He's not American
2. He's always in the way of their boy (Roddick) winning slams.

The only way for a foreign player to be well liked by Americans is to be become a naturalized one (Seles, MN) or to be extremely flashy and cocky like Nadal (Americans like him, right?)

Allez
09-10-2006, 09:39 AM
They probably think every foreign player is a terrorist :rolleyes:

Seriously, I've found that tennis fans are very respectful of great players. It's your average Joe from suburbia who lets their “patriotism” get the better of them.

Just Cause
09-14-2006, 10:45 PM
Americans don't like Federer because...

1. He's not American
2. He's always in the way of their boy (Roddick) winning slams.

The only way for a foreign player to be well liked by Americans is to be become a naturalized one (Seles, MN) or to be extremely flashy and cocky like Nadal (Americans like him, right?)
Too true with your Roddick comment, and Roddick is a toy for Federer in Wimbledon, it was not as bad in New York.

Jlee
09-14-2006, 10:52 PM
Americans don't like Federer because...

1. He's not American
2. He's always in the way of their boy (Roddick) winning slams.

The only way for a foreign player to be well liked by Americans is to be become a naturalized one (Seles, MN) or to be extremely flashy and cocky like Nadal (Americans like him, right?)

They probably think every foreign player is a terrorist :rolleyes:


Why do people insist on making distasteful generalizations? Oh yes, Americans could only ever be interested in the so-called "cocky" Nadal because none of them have any real intelligence relating to tennis whatsoever.

:rolleyes: :ras:

jcempire
09-14-2006, 11:00 PM
Shut down Roger

That's our No.1 dream.

But, that's not means I hate Roger.

No, I'm not.

But has to beat Roger by a American.

Support to take US OPEN Champion from Roger 2007

jcempire
09-14-2006, 11:05 PM
I will become Roger Fan until A American shut down Roger in NY (2007).

ABandt
09-14-2006, 11:07 PM
I will become Roger Fan until A American shut down Roger in NY (2007).

And....what happens if it's a non-American who beats him at the Open in 07?

Just a thought...since that's more likely to happen then one of the US men getting their acts together long enough to figure out how to do it....

~Amy

thrust
09-14-2006, 11:32 PM
In most nations people are going to root for their players over foreign competition. Americans are used to having American players winning most of the Slams. This is a bad time for us, so perhaps we root harder than usual against foreign players. I am not a big fan of Roddick, but rooted for him against Federer. In the Youshny<?> match I was actually neutral at the end of the match.

Just Cause
09-14-2006, 11:35 PM
Blake is about to past his prime, I am sure he will make it to the TMC.
But starting from Australian Open, he will start going down.
And people already figure out Roddick I am afriad.

PamV
09-15-2006, 12:20 AM
Roddick is popular, but Blake is more popular among fans or true tennis observers.
But I think it is because US Open spectators are jealous of Europeans because they got too used to watching one of their own winning US Open. I think they may just be jealous? Maybe Boris Becker was not popular either, but I wasnt born, but that may be true too. Steffi wasnt too popular either.

Americans love Federer! The USO Final Federer d. Roddick 2006 received higher ratings than did Roddick's USO Final in 2003. It also received higher ratings than did the Sharapova d. Henin-Hardene 2006 final.

PamV
09-15-2006, 12:22 AM
In most nations people are going to root for their players over foreign competition. Americans are used to having American players winning most of the Slams. This is a bad time for us, so perhaps we root harder than usual against foreign players. I am not a big fan of Roddick, but rooted for him against Federer. In the Youshny<?> match I was actually neutral at the end of the match.

I am American and I root for whomever I like the best regardless of nationality. Tennis is more about the player, it's not a team sport thing that is like one nation against another....except for DC.

PamV
09-15-2006, 12:24 AM
They probably think every foreign player is a terrorist :rolleyes:

Seriously, I've found that tennis fans are very respectful of great players. It's your average Joe from suburbia who lets their “patriotism” get the better of them.

Yes, that sounds right. A person who doesn't really watch what the players do technically and just thinks they want an American to win regardless of anything else.

thrust
09-15-2006, 12:44 AM
I Love Roger^s game, but root against him because he is too dominant. I used to root against Sampras for the same reason, especially if her were playing Rafter or Edberg. My favorite female player is Justine H-H. I was never an Agassi fan, but admired his determination and ability.

PamV
09-15-2006, 01:09 AM
I Love Roger^s game, but root against him because he is too dominant. I used to root against Sampras for the same reason, especially if her were playing Rafter or Edberg. My favorite female player is Justine H-H. I was never an Agassi fan, but admired his determination and ability.

I don't think it's the same with Federer as it was with Sampras. Federer can't win just mainly with a big serve and then a repeating S/V pattern. Federer has to work a lot harder and use more variety than Sampras.

Root for whom you want, but it seems to me that the fact that Roger is so dominant will motivate a new generation to play with variety and not just rely on power.

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Sjengster
09-15-2006, 01:14 AM
Are you going to post that pic in every thread you grace with your presence, Pammy?

PamV
09-15-2006, 01:40 AM
Are you going to post that pic in every thread you grace with your presence, Pammy?

I wasn't planning to. But if it makes people happy I will.

Jlee
09-15-2006, 02:45 AM
And....what happens if it's a non-American who beats him at the Open in 07?

Just a thought...since that's more likely to happen then one of the US men getting their acts together long enough to figure out how to do it....

~Amy

I suppose that you just decided to ignore the fact that the only two men to steal a set from Federer at the Open happen to be American?

Art&Soul
09-15-2006, 03:38 AM
Do you know that the most fans of Roger from America? :)

martinatreue
09-15-2006, 06:36 AM
Roger, Gasquet and Justine are my three absolute faves followed closely by Hingis. No Americans in that list! Nationality does not play a role for me. Game style, creativity, etc are what matter for me. Also like Tathiana Golovin and Tommy Haas.

TennisGrandSlam
09-15-2006, 07:47 AM
I had some brickbats thrown at my own thread last night so am hesitant to criticise others, but I'm pretty sure this topic has been raised many times over the past fortnight.

One and only one answer : Because Federer is not American! :cool:

TennisGrandSlam
09-15-2006, 10:19 AM
Americans only like Americans, everyone else is the ENEMY!


Exactly :cool:

TennisGrandSlam
09-15-2006, 10:29 AM
Roger is not well liked simply because there are not that many tennis fans here. There are mostly fans of American tennis. It don't think he is hated, but many American's are annoyed because he beats their favorite players. I went to Flushing Meadows this Sunday and saw a woman wearing a T-shirt that said, "Anyone but Federer"!


So, Federer is great!


Sampras won totally 64 Singles titles with 14 GS, but about 2/3 of them in USA.

Federer has no such home advantage! :cool:

Maxpowers
09-15-2006, 04:44 PM
I'm American and think the world of Federer. I really admire how fluid he is on the court and think he's a class act off the court. The problem is that tennis isn't exactly heavily promoted here, and a few other sports are constantly promoted. If you want to read about tennis in the paper its usually on the back page with only 1 tiny article.

Black Adam
09-15-2006, 05:09 PM
So, Federer is great!


Sampras won totally 64 Singles titles with 14 GS, but about 2/3 of them in USA.

Federer has no such home advantage! :cool:
:( Hey Mr Man! Just because you are blind doesn't mean we are all blind and need your Big Red Letters to see well!!! :rolleyes: :mad:

tangerine_dream
09-15-2006, 06:49 PM
:( Hey Mr Man! Just because you are blind doesn't mean we are all blind and need your Big Red Letters to see well!!! :rolleyes: :mad:
:haha: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TGS again.

thrust
09-15-2006, 11:48 PM
Of course Pete won most of his tournaments in the USA, because that is where most of the money tournaments were played in his day. In reality Switzerland never was a tennis nation. Hingis is from a Czech family to emigrated to Switzerland. Did Roger grow up in Switzerland? I think one of his parents is from South Africa. Whatever, tennis is an international sport especially today and it really makes no difference where a player grows up as they will usually go to the USA or Spain to develop their game.

TennisGrandSlam
09-16-2006, 06:50 AM
Of course Pete won most of his tournaments in the USA, because that is where most of the money tournaments were played in his day. In reality Switzerland never was a tennis nation. Hingis is from a Czech family to emigrated to Switzerland. Did Roger grow up in Switzerland? I think one of his parents is from South Africa. Whatever, tennis is an international sport especially today and it really makes no difference where a player grows up as they will usually go to the USA or Spain to develop their game.


If Federer is an American, most American would like him!

If Roddick has 9 Grand Slam but is an Swiss, less American would like him!

:cool:

emile32
09-16-2006, 08:07 AM
Federer is real swiss he was born in bazel and when he was 13 years old he went to the swisstennisschool in eclubanc.

jcempire
09-16-2006, 09:02 AM
If Federer is an American, most American would like him!

If Roddick has 9 Grand Slam but is an Swiss, less American would like him!
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Strong agree with you.

But I have to told you.

I'm 100% sure, 5 things

1. Andy will back to NO. 1, But I don't want to tell you when.

2. And. also other American will come out.

2007 to 2008, I think TOP 20, We will have 4 Americans.
As Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, Michael Chang, Jim Courier. as they did during 1990s

may be not 4 Americans in Top 20

could be 3 American in TOP 10. James and Andy will be Top 5. I don't want to tell you who is another guy. You may have answer.

3. Three young Americans will come out and join James and Andy,
Sam, Donald, and Scoville.

4. Roger will be shut down by more than 6 different players in 2007

5. After 2007, Roger will no longer to be No. 1

thrust
09-16-2006, 11:41 AM
emile- Thanks for the info on Federer. Good for Switzerland!

bokehlicious
09-16-2006, 12:12 PM
emile- Thanks for the info on Federer. Good for Switzerland!

And Hingis learnt how to play tennis in Switzerland as well ;)

LeeHesh
09-18-2006, 04:49 AM
Why don't Americans like federer? hmm..let's see. Oh, because most don't know who he is. Take a look at SI's website or the ESPN site. see where Tennis falls? Under the "More Sports" section. According to this placement Tennis falls below NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR, NHL, Golf, College Sports, Soccer. It's probably on the same level as little league.


So yeah, Americans don't hate Roger. Most don't know he exists. He's a very minor deity in the American sporting pantheon.

LeeHesh
09-18-2006, 04:55 AM
So, Federer is great!


Sampras won totally 64 Singles titles with 14 GS, but about 2/3 of them in USA.

Federer has no such home advantage! :cool:

So Borg is the GREATEST. He had 11....and He was Swedish.

Imagine the horror of admitting that you come from the nation of ABBA and "The Final Countdown" makers, EUROPE :)

PamV
09-18-2006, 05:09 AM
Why don't Americans like federer? hmm..let's see. Oh, because most don't know who he is. Take a look at SI's website or the ESPN site. see where Tennis falls? Under the "More Sports" section. According to this placement Tennis falls below NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR, NHL, Golf, College Sports, Soccer. It's probably on the same level as little league.


So yeah, Americans don't hate Roger. Most don't know he exists. He's a very minor deity in the American sporting pantheon.

Actually most Americans don't know who Sharapova or Roddick are either.

Among the select group of Americans who actually follow tennis......they seem to like Federer OR Nadal. Some always root for the underdog.

Jlee
09-18-2006, 05:33 AM
Why don't Americans like federer? hmm..let's see. Oh, because most don't know who he is. Take a look at SI's website or the ESPN site. see where Tennis falls? Under the "More Sports" section. According to this placement Tennis falls below NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR, NHL, Golf, College Sports, Soccer. It's probably on the same level as little league.


So yeah, Americans don't hate Roger. Most don't know he exists. He's a very minor deity in the American sporting pantheon.

You make a very good point. We might have a general idea of who he might be or what sport he might be part of, but nothing more than a passing interest.

There are some though who appreciate tennis and Federer... :wavey:

nobama
09-18-2006, 12:12 PM
Outside of Sharapova and the Williams sisters what active players get much attention/press in the USA? Roddick only does because of the rumors he's dating Sharapova.

TennisGrandSlam
09-18-2006, 12:22 PM
So Borg is the GREATEST. He had 11....and He was Swedish.

Imagine the horror of admitting that you come from the nation of ABBA and "The Final Countdown" makers, EUROPE :)


ha ha

I strongly agree

Roland Garros + Wimbledon back-to-back for 3 years is extremely difficult :wavey:

TennisGrandSlam
09-18-2006, 12:24 PM
If Federer is an American, most American would like him!

If Roddick has 9 Grand Slam but is an Swiss, less American would like him!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Strong agree with you.

But I have to told you.

I'm 100% sure, 5 things

1. Andy will back to NO. 1, But I don't want to tell you when.

2. And. also other American will come out.

2007 to 2008, I think TOP 20, We will have 4 Americans.
As Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, Michael Chang, Jim Courier. as they did during 1990s

may be not 4 Americans in Top 20

could be 3 American in TOP 10. James and Andy will be Top 5. I don't want to tell you who is another guy. You may have answer.

3. Three young Americans will come out and join James and Andy,
Sam, Donald, and Scoville.

4. Roger will be shut down by more than 6 different players in 2007

5. After 2007, Roger will no longer to be No. 1


looking forword to seeing!

For American males tennis players, I only like Blake! :cool:

PamV
09-18-2006, 12:33 PM
Outside of Sharapova and the Williams sisters what active players get much attention/press in the USA? Roddick only does because of the rumors he's dating Sharapova.

In this month's People Magazine they give Roddick a couple of pages to give his opinions on womens fashion trends.

Sharapova, and Roddick do get a little media snippets now and then because of their agencies pushing for this......but I think if you ask the average person in the US who doesn't read gossip mags and doesn't care about tennis, they would have no idea who they are.

PamV
09-18-2006, 12:37 PM
ha ha

I strongly agree

Roland Garros + Wimbledon back-to-back for 3 years is extremely difficult :wavey:

Remember when Borg played they used wooden racquets and played S/V style on both clay and grass. When you take that into consideration it's not as difficult as winning those back to back today. Borg would also conserve himself by not playing Australia at the start of the year.

oz_boz
09-18-2006, 02:55 PM
So Borg is the GREATEST. He had 11....and He was Swedish.

Imagine the horror of admitting that you come from the nation of ABBA and "The Final Countdown" makers, EUROPE :)

No problem :cool: BTW, my lovely home country with 9 million inhabitants is the third largest music export country after USA and UK.

Laver-Sampras-Borg is top 3 Open Era.