Federer is extremly afraid of losing matches....

09-08-2006, 11:32 PM
I think Federers greatest weakness may be his fear of losing matches. This fear seems to appear at moments when he is serving out matches. Many people seem to forget Federers great mentality is something he has worked with alot and is not at all something he was born with, inside him Federer is unlike great champions like Agassi and Sampras a very emotional person. He hides it extremly well and would never confess it, but I think this will always be his greatest weakness. We have seen so many times Federer start to get nervous when serving otu matches, in this USOPEN he has not lost a sing serve game unless he is serving out for the set or match. In wimbledon 3 out of 4 of his serve games which was broken was while he was serving out for the match.

He served for the match against Safin AO 2005 in the tiebreak and lost the point, what many people forget is that before that excellent lob by Safin Federer had 5-2 and 2 serves in the tiebreak and only had to put 2 great 1st serve to win the match, instead 2 awful unforced errors was made. In Rome, he just realised he could win the match and became really afraid of losing the match. Against Nalbandian he realised he had done one of his greatest comebacks and had 30-0 to finnish NAlbandian but couldnt get a 1st serve right and ofcourse double faulted.

Federer just is very afraid of losing and feels the burden. You could see it in AO where he cried tears more of relief than happiness. Dont get me wrong, Federer is strong and his mentality is most times very impressive aswell as his great comeback abilities. You could see it many times when Nadal was serving it out on clay (like in MC where he was 2 breaks down in the last set and RG), then Federer has nothing to lose. Later he realises he does have a shot at winning the match and chokes. Both in MC and RG he was up a minibreak in the tiebreak when he made some really bad UEs. Against Safin in AO he played some amazing tennis when he was down 2-5 in the last set, he realized the match was lost so there was nothing more to lose, the same happened against Nalbandian in shangai and Gasquet in MC, just moments later Federer cant take the pressure and loses the matches.

I think Federer is aware of this even if he would not admit it, I even think there is no cure for this terrible weakness. It is something deep inside of him which is very fragile. Maybe this will make tennis always more interesting knowing behind all tennis talent which is not from this world there is a human beeing with all our weaknesses and fears.

09-08-2006, 11:36 PM
he seems to do a good job of managing this "fear", then.

Federer's problem is not so much that he fears losing, it's that he gets very nervous in tight situations.

If you look at his 5 set record in the last 4 years, he tends to win 5th sets by easy margins like 6-1, 6-3, etc. When the final set gets tight he has often managed to lose it - Rome this year, Australia last year being good examples.

Federer is a player who doesn't handle the pressure of being stuck in an out-and-out dogfight all that well.

What he is exceptionally good at, though, is not getting INTO them in the first place.

He's only been dragged to 5 sets twice this year in 73 matches, winning one 6-2 and losing the other 6-7.

Just Cause
09-08-2006, 11:37 PM
Sort of true, but that also proves that he is a perfectionist.

09-08-2006, 11:37 PM
Andre is not famous for his steely mind. Roger is no Pete when it comes to mentality being stronger but he is still very good at controlling his nerves given all the pressure he is under which is greater than any player in history had to endure.

09-08-2006, 11:40 PM
great post. i think, you covered the points very well.

09-08-2006, 11:41 PM
Andre is not famous for his steely mind. Roger is no Pete when it comes to mentality being stronger but he is still very good at controlling his nerves given all the pressure he is under which is greater than any player in history had to endure.

That is while he is in a position to fight back or a tight tiebreak in the 2nd set, when he realizes he is close to winning the match and see there is a posibility of the match slipping out of his hand he chokes many times.

09-09-2006, 12:00 AM
Its kind of sad that his perfection & utter brilliance has him locked in this place where if he shows any sign of being a human being he gets critisized.

this is the pressure i think he fears and it has showed this year more than any other.

one of the few times i've seen him sweat was last night during the blake match,
(i also commented that he looked rather good sweaty:devil: )
but i think its good for him to lose every once and a while he has to improve like everyone else...i dont know what improvement would look like:scared: but humans evolve...its what we do.

Roger is human:hearts:

leng jai
09-09-2006, 12:03 AM
I personally think that Federer has an extremely good mental strength. If I was him I would be afraid to lose matches. A lot of Fedex's offense is psychological. Before the match even starts, 80% of players on tour probably give up before the match even starts, or come out playing way over their limit and just throw the match away with errors. Thats why Hewitt is unlikely to ever beat Federer again, his psychological scars are too great after all those thrashings. Thats why players like Haas and Safin always seem to give good matches against Fedex. They truly believe they can win and have the shots to back it up. Too bad those two frequently lost to players they should beat.

09-09-2006, 04:31 AM
I'm not sure I agree that Roger is AFRAID to lose. I think he's become so unaccustomed to losing that when he's truly in danger of doing so, he sort of...tightens up. But the thing with Roger is that except when he plays Rafa, he really believes that he's going to win. I think he's as mentally tough as anyone out there.

09-09-2006, 04:36 AM
Federer only gets nervious against the Spanish kid--Nadal . BUT not F-E-A-R

09-09-2006, 04:44 AM
That's right. Federer does not "fear" to lose. He's just "nervous" in some situation. Wouldn't you if you were he? He's still managing his nervousness very well.

09-09-2006, 08:55 AM
It seems to be in fear of being ahead.

Against Blake:

Set 1: fails to serve out set, but saves 2 set points in tie break.
Set 3: fails to serve out set
Set 4: fails to serve out set, but saves 3 break points early in set and saves break point serving for set for 2rd time.

When behind the performance level is very high. He struggles when in a dominant position.

Almost all the lost serve games at Wimbledon and US Open have been serving for sets and rarely if any when serving to stay in set.

09-09-2006, 09:05 AM
I do agree that it is a weakness, but like Scoobsuk said, Fed makes sure he doesn't even get into those type of dog fights time and time again. Federer has definitely let a few matches slip which he should have won perhaps and those statistics on when he happens to lose his serve are very revealing...

Champions do hate losing in general just a little more than the others. Federer used to be a terrible loser.. we all know this. Maybe it is this severe hatred for losing that has spurred the great champions of Tennis to become what they became.. champions.

09-09-2006, 09:46 AM
Fear? Well, when you're not accomodated to losing it may appear ;)

But see how well he can cope with danger. I mean, his opponents often have chances to break his serve, and he manages to defend 69%, which places him 2nd in this year's stats

Also, he managed to win some matches when his opponent had match points (ex. Agassi in TMC 2003, Rochus in this year's Halle), but I guess you can say that about many players

09-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Based on the way he plays everybody except for the spanish kid-
Hes not afrais of losing, he just pulls up his socks in the important moments. When hes recieving at 5-4 he'll try to break, when hes down a break, he'll break back like he did against blake in the IW final and in 3 straight tie breaks. His concentration varies troughout the match when someone like nadal can lose the first set 6-1 THEN he wakes up.