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The Battle of the Boring: Federer vs Davykenko

dkw
09-08-2006, 05:38 PM
This would be a great time to take a nap before the Women's Final :p

Federer in 3 uneventful sets :shrug:

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 05:40 PM
:lol: at the the title :yeah:

rofe
09-08-2006, 05:40 PM
This would be a great time to take a nap before the Women's Final :p

Federer in 3 uneventful sets :shrug:

Just like AO '06?

Just Cause
09-08-2006, 05:41 PM
or Wimbledon 06;). Roger is too strong.

Jumpman23
09-08-2006, 05:43 PM
Appreciating the ability and the greatness of Federer is never boring.

rofe
09-08-2006, 05:45 PM
or Wimbledon 06;). Roger is too strong.

Roger did not play Davy in Wimbly 06. He did at the AO and it was not an uneventful three sets.

DrJules
09-08-2006, 05:46 PM
:lol: at the the title :yeah:

Why do peolple think Roger Federer plays boring tennis?

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 05:47 PM
Why do peolple think Roger Federer plays boring tennis?
I don't. I find his lack of charisma boring, and most of his matches boring because they're insanely one sided.

Io non ho paura
09-08-2006, 05:51 PM
and most of his matches boring because they're insanely one sided.


Nice to see you post serious to sir!!!! I think the same :mad: federer is nice to watch during exciting match. This not so common, all matches easy win, we expect easy win and no fun. It can be nice if we see him lose many sets and opponent makes challenge and maybe win!!!

erekiel
09-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Roger did not play Davy in Wimbly 06. He did at the AO and it was not an uneventful three sets.

It was entertaining 6-4 3-6 7-6(7) 7-6(5) four setter.

tangerine_dream
09-08-2006, 05:58 PM
Nikolay will win because he will bore Roger to death.

DrJules
09-08-2006, 05:59 PM
I don't. I find his lack of charisma boring, and most of his matches boring because they're insanely one sided.

And I thought people were interested in the tennis. :rolleyes:

Just Cause
09-08-2006, 06:01 PM
Roger did not play Davy in Wimbly 06. He did at the AO and it was not an uneventful three sets.
I meant the final...but it's SF, should have specified that:).
But I must say I'm impressed by Davykenko, he is showing that all of his experiences are finally paying off.

hitchhiker
09-08-2006, 06:06 PM
why dont they just show federer hitting against a wall for 3 hours instead? at least the wall wont choke

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 06:07 PM
And I thought people were interested in the tennis. :rolleyes:
'fraid not. Watching players hit balls from a back of a court doesn't make a good game, personalities do. If everyone on the tour played like Federer but had similar personalities, tennis would die a slow and painful death.

Fumus
09-08-2006, 06:12 PM
The only victor tomorrow will be tennis.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-08-2006, 06:16 PM
Charisma will be non existant on the court. Who can put the other to sleep first. :D

DrJules
09-08-2006, 06:19 PM
'fraid not. Watching players hit balls from a back of a court doesn't make a good game, personalities do. If everyone on the tour played like Federer but had similar personalities, tennis would die a slow and painful death.

At Wimbledon during the 90's the biggest turn-off was the the big servers. I think one final between Sampras and Ivanisevic only kept the ball in play for 8 minutes. It is the reason why a lot of people today find players like Karlovic and Roddick boring; the ball does not spend long in play. This match is certainly going to be less boring than the Roddick vs. Karlovic match in Madrid last year; possibly the most boring match of the year.

These 2 players will actually give us a lot of tennis.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 06:40 PM
This would be a great time to take a nap before the Women's Final :p

Federer in 3 uneventful sets :shrug:

*roll on the fucking floor*

anyway, I do loves me some Davydenko. I hope he believes in himself

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 06:52 PM
At Wimbledon during the 90's the biggest turn-off was the the big servers. I think one final between Sampras and Ivanisevic only kept the ball in play for 8 minutes. It is the reason why a lot of people today find players like Karlovic and Roddick boring; the ball does not spend long in play. This match is certainly going to be less boring than the Roddick vs. Karlovic match in Madrid last year; possibly the most boring match of the year.

These 2 players will actually give us a lot of tennis.

Of course there is more tennis in a match that is not a battle of the big servers. But here's the problem: when one person is playing an out-of-this-world alien in human costume, there's no way that the real person will win. The alien will win, easily, and the alien will beat the human in an embarassment to the human's pride. That is boring to watch for many people! Doesn't have to be for you. So take the out-of-this-world-alien and put him against Davydenko, the on court mute, and you will only be hearing the sound of people taking their seats.

Fumus
09-08-2006, 06:55 PM
Of course there is more tennis in a match that is not a battle of the big servers. But here's the problem: when one person is playing an out-of-this-world alien in human costume, there's no way that the real person will win. The alien will win, easily, and the alien will beat the human in an embarassment to the human's pride. That is boring to watch for many people! Doesn't have to be for you. So take the out-of-this-world-alien and put him against Davydenko, the on court mute, and you will only be hearing the sound of people taking their seats.

Yay Mrs. Guga lookin' hawt.

DrJules
09-08-2006, 07:19 PM
Of course there is more tennis in a match that is not a battle of the big servers. But here's the problem: when one person is playing an out-of-this-world alien in human costume, there's no way that the real person will win. The alien will win, easily, and the alien will beat the human in an embarassment to the human's pride. That is boring to watch for many people! Doesn't have to be for you. So take the out-of-this-world-alien and put him against Davydenko, the on court mute, and you will only be hearing the sound of people taking their seats.

Federer vs. Davydenko Australian Open 2006 was certainly not one sided.

Martin
09-08-2006, 07:25 PM
I don't. I find his lack of charisma boring, and most of his matches boring because they're insanely one sided.

Just like watching Nadal on clay then. Now there is a man who bores opponents to death.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 07:49 PM
Yay Mrs. Guga lookin' hawt.

I was at Suny Buff a couple weeks ago, trying to hunt you down dude? Where were you??

Adler
09-08-2006, 07:51 PM
Roger in 3, unless he decides to go for a 4-setter

I don't agree with this statement that personalities are more important than the game itself. I won't convince people who think otherwise, but I highly doubt most of them are really tennis fans

shotgun
09-08-2006, 07:56 PM
Nikolay will win because he will bore Roger to death.

:lol: You mean Davydenko will outbore Federer. :p

DrJules
09-08-2006, 07:58 PM
Nikolay will win because he will bore Roger to death.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

landoud
09-08-2006, 08:00 PM
Roger in 4

RogiFan88
09-08-2006, 08:22 PM
Nikolay will win because he will bore Roger to death.

:lol: good one, tangy! :haha:

Clara Bow
09-08-2006, 08:50 PM
I don't find Roger boring on the court, I just think sometimes things are too easy for him. I really love his play and talent and like to see it. But when things are very one sided, it can take some exitement out. Case in point for me was when I saw the final of the 2004 TMC live. Federer just crushed Hewitt. And the crowd that had stayed through all of the rain delays were mostly big tennis fans (and a few were a little tipsy because there was nothing to do but drink during the rain delays and the food was horrible.) Federer played wonderful tennis, and the crowd appreciated that. But they also wanted to see a match. So we were there appreciated the great play but also trying to rally Hewitt so we could see a competative match. But as soon as the rallying started, Federer would crush it through his domination and some energy in the crowd would die.

I am a huge fan of Federer, and really am in awe of his talent. But- I prefer to see him in competative matches. Not only does it sometimes enliven the crowd, but also it makes Federer pull out some really fantastic stuff - more so than when he is cruising. And I will admit, that I do love it when I see feisty Federer. In some tight matches he will be more emotive and when he is shouting "Allez" or "Come On!" or something in German or is even a little pissy it makes me :drool:.

I appreciate and love Federer's talent. But also- I love a great contest.

As for who will win, I think it will be Roger, but Davy could give him a fight.

tangerine_dream
09-08-2006, 09:13 PM
:lol: You mean Davydenko will outbore Federer. :p
No, I mean even Roger will be so bored playing Davydenko that he'll end up forfeiting the match just to get away from him. ;)

Eden
09-08-2006, 09:41 PM
I don't find Roger boring on the court ... I really love his play and talent and like to see it.

Thats exactly how I feel. I really can't understand why people find Roger boring and can't just enjoy the beauty of his game :shrug:

But when things are very one sided, it can take some exitement out.

Thats true, but what can the player who dominates the match for this? Credit should be given when it is due instead of blaming someone to be boring only because he knows how to play the game.

r2473
09-08-2006, 09:57 PM
If everyone on the tour played like Federer but had similar personalities, tennis would die a slow and painful death.

For sure. I think what we really need is "Tennis Idol". A bunch of amatuers play tennis on a Hollywood set and let the audience vote who moves to the next round.

Why do we have to put up with the great tennis Federer plays? It's outragous that he is even allowed on tour.

Io non ho paura
09-08-2006, 10:00 PM
GIVE NIKOLAY FUCKING BREAK!!!

dorkino
09-08-2006, 10:32 PM
:lol:
Well, to tell the truth, i think it highly depends on Davydenko's spirits.
Though i 'm a big fan of Fed's game and talent,but honnestly i prefer to watch him in a competitive match rather than a one sided game -which unfortunately is the case happening more than frequently-.Competition ususally brings out his best tactics and raises his potential to another level.

So apart from final results, Davydenko forgetting about raising the white flag before giving it any trials, and not rushing out for winners with loads of UE can give us some good quality. ;)

As for Boredom,i confess, i 'm feeling a big portion of it ever since Rafa's exit. :o

:secret: Is it safe in here to be a fan of both Fed and Nadal? :devil:

Kalliopeia
09-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Thats true, but what can the player who dominates the match for this? Credit should be given when it is due instead of blaming someone to be boring only because he knows how to play the game.

I'll give Roger all the credit in the world, he's really just the best right now and it's amazing to watch him sometimes when the match is competitive (and how often does that happen anymore?). But that doesn't make it less interesting to watch when the outcome is all but predetermined. I don't begrudge him his success, and I understand that there are people who just like to admire how he plays. But for me...it's a little bit like reading a mystery novel when you already know who the killer is. You can enjoy the beauty of the writing but it doesn't change the fact that you know what's going to happen and there's no excitement or tension there anymore. It's not Roger's fault, but it's just the way it is.

David Kenzie
09-08-2006, 10:52 PM
I'll give Roger all the credit in the world, he's really just the best right now and it's amazing to watch him sometimes when the match is competitive (and how often does that happen anymore?). But that doesn't make it less interesting to watch when the outcome is all but predetermined. I don't begrudge him his success, and I understand that there are people who just like to admire how he plays. But for me...it's a little bit like reading a mystery novel when you already know who the killer is. You can enjoy the beauty of the writing but it doesn't change the fact that you know what's going to happen and there's no excitement or tension there anymore. It's not Roger's fault, but it's just the way it is.

Except that no match is ever won before it is played. If it was I would suggest you bet all your life savings that Federer will win every single match he plays from now on...

Ceri
09-08-2006, 10:53 PM
Appreciating the ability and the greatness of Federer is never boring.
well said...and what's to say it won't be a four or five setter? Davy's no slouch guys.

nisabula
09-08-2006, 10:55 PM
For sure. I think what we really need is "Tennis Idol". A bunch of amatuers play tennis on a Hollywood set and let the audience vote who moves to the next round.

Why do we have to put up with the great tennis Federer plays? It's outragous that he is even allowed on tour.

nice! :haha:

Freeze17171
09-08-2006, 10:57 PM
Federer has recently struggled against tricky and solid consistent baseliners like Davydenko, Ollie Rochus, Santoro, Malisse and Murray. He'll probably win in 4, but it shouldn't be as one sided as you guys are making it out to be.

Jagermeister
09-08-2006, 11:18 PM
If you mean boring interviews/personalities, yea, it's the Battle of the Boring. I think it could be a good match if Davydenko hasn't died of exhaustion by tomorrow.

scoobs
09-08-2006, 11:21 PM
I think Davydenko will bring it for a while but that 5 setter against Haas will come back to trouble him the longer the match goes on - physically that took a lot out of him.

But if Davydenko plays solid he can keep it tight for a while and we should have some good exchanges.

leng jai
09-08-2006, 11:21 PM
This would of been so much better if it was Haas Vs Fedex. Why oh why do you have to have the shittest mental of all time Tommy?

scoobs
09-08-2006, 11:23 PM
Haas ran out of gas after 5 setting Safin and Ginepri - can't fault his effort or his determination to try any tactic to disrupt his opponent including improptu injury timeouts.

Kalliopeia
09-08-2006, 11:30 PM
Except that no match is ever won before it is played. If it was I would suggest you bet all your life savings that Federer will win every single match he plays from now on...

That's why I said "all but." :) If he's on I'll watch him for awhile. It usually becomes pretty apparent how it's going to go before long.

magnoliaewan
09-08-2006, 11:32 PM
I like Federer's on-court personality. His calm, collected demeanour is just so cool and he just exudes an aura of being the #1 player. :cool: I like how he doesn't lose his temper easily and doesn't yell at or bully the umpire a la Roddick. To me, fist pumps and yelling "Vamos" doesn't translate into exciting at all. It's actually annoying. Give me a Federer match, where I can watch some amazing shot-making, over other matches any day.

rofe
09-08-2006, 11:33 PM
That's why I said "all but." :) If he's on I'll watch him for awhile. It usually becomes pretty apparent how it's going to go before long.

But that is precisely what the other poster is arguing about. If you had switched off the TV after the first two sets in the Fed-Blake match, you would have missed all the drama that unfolded later.

Scotso
09-08-2006, 11:35 PM
Wow, the "Davydenko is boring" thing isn't getting old at all.... nope, not at all.


C'mon Nikolay! :D

Deivid23
09-08-2006, 11:36 PM
why dont they just show federer hitting against a wall for 3 hours instead? at least the wall wont choke
:lol:

scoobs
09-08-2006, 11:41 PM
I like Federer's on-court personality. His calm, collected demeanour is just so cool and he just exudes an aura of being the #1 player. :cool: I like how he doesn't lose his temper easily and doesn't yell at or bully the umpire a la Roddick. To me, fist pumps and yelling "Vamos" doesn't translate into exciting at all. It's actually annoying. Give me a Federer match, where I can watch some amazing shot-making, over other matches any day.
He just glides around the court with an aura of calm determination emanating from him.

He let's the racquet do the talking - and drown out the crowds.

Some may not like it but I love it - Federer's on court and school is in session.

Kalliopeia
09-09-2006, 12:04 AM
But that is precisely what the other poster is arguing about. If you had switched off the TV after the first two sets in the Fed-Blake match, you would have missed all the drama that unfolded later.

I knew James Blake was capable of putting up a fight. I wouldn't (and didn't) turn that off. Actually I wouldn't turn it off anyway, I'd just leave it on in the background while I do something else. I don't go out of my way to watch Federer, though, because it's just not usually the case that his opponent is capable of putting up a real fight.

kronus12
09-09-2006, 12:34 AM
At least that mudballer isn't playing i hate watching that wannabe pick his bum and run around like a murdering idiot and pumping his fist.
If you don't know who am talking about its Nadal ok tossers hehe...
His brand of tennis is bloody ugly rather watch paint dry.

helen phillips
09-09-2006, 12:35 AM
'fraid not. Watching players hit balls from a back of a court doesn't make a good game, personalities do. If everyone on the tour played like Federer but had similar personalities, tennis would die a slow and painful death.

One would have hoped you could have figured this out on your own but the fact is; being an a**hole doesn't give you personality it just makes you an incredibly boring dullard. It's in your hands now honey, good luck to you.

dulcinea1
09-09-2006, 05:49 AM
I don't. I find most of his matches boring because they're insanely one sided.


That's his opponent's faults, isn't it?.

njorker
09-09-2006, 06:22 AM
I'll give Roger all the credit in the world, he's really just the best right now and it's amazing to watch him sometimes when the match is competitive (and how often does that happen anymore?). But that doesn't make it less interesting to watch when the outcome is all but predetermined. I don't begrudge him his success, and I understand that there are people who just like to admire how he plays. But for me...it's a little bit like reading a mystery novel when you already know who the killer is. You can enjoy the beauty of the writing but it doesn't change the fact that you know what's going to happen and there's no excitement or tension there anymore. It's not Roger's fault, but it's just the way it is.

Well put. Great analogy, dead-on!

DrJules
09-09-2006, 10:31 AM
why dont they just show federer hitting against a wall for 3 hours instead? at least the wall wont choke


I suppose that is one way of describing Rafael Nadal. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Action Jackson
09-09-2006, 10:35 AM
I suppose that is one way of describing Rafael Nadal. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The wall doesn't say Vamos though.

Soon coming into stores is the Rafael Nadal doll, leaping in the air pose and pull the cord saying "vamos".

Running up and down and having 4000000000 crabs in your pants doesn't mean you have a personality.

Action Jackson
09-09-2006, 10:36 AM
Tennis will be the winner either way.

azza
09-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Federer 7-6(3) 6-2 6-2

white&blue
09-09-2006, 12:02 PM
Federer 2-6, 7-6, 4-6, 7-6, 6-2

adee-gee
09-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Davydenko 6-0 6-0 6-1.

Rogiman
09-09-2006, 12:22 PM
One would have hoped you could have figured this out on your own but the fact is; being an a**hole doesn't give you personality it just makes you an incredibly boring dullard. It's in your hands now honey, good luck to you.
Perhaps the smartest comment ever made by any poster, if shouting, jumping up-and-down and pumping fists is an indication of one having a "personality" then I guess monkeys should never have evolved into human beings, we obviously had much more "personality" back then.

But what can you say to those who find that kind of behavior "exciting", and a guy who looks like a chimpanzee "attractive".

stebs
09-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Davydenko 6-0 6-0 6-1.
He almost chokes in the third set by dropping a game. :lol:

Seriously I think Federer will win (shock horror) in four sets.

7-5 6-2 3-6 7-6

Castafiore
09-09-2006, 12:33 PM
'fraid not. Watching players hit balls from a back of a court doesn't make a good game, personalities do. If everyone on the tour played like Federer but had similar personalities, tennis would die a slow and painful death.
One would have hoped you could have figured this out on your own but the fact is; being an a**hole doesn't give you personality it just makes you an incredibly boring dullard. It's in your hands now honey, good luck to you.
(note: the following questions are just general ones and have nothing to do with Federer or Davydenko but I just happen to wonder about this within this thread)
Who said that you need to be an a**hole to have some personality and how do you go from adee-gee's comment to the "a**-hole" remark?

I see nothing wrong with adee-gee's comment but maybe you're jumping on his comment because of his MTF reputation?
IMO, tennis is best served by having a mixture of different personalities to give the sport some texture. If every tennis player is ordered to behave in the same way or if every top player had the same personality, that would be utterly boring and bad for the sport.


Why do some many people see the differences in personalities on court and off court in terms of "right" and "wrong", "nice" and "obnoxious", "good behaviour" and "bad behaviour" etc.?
So many with a black & with vision. :scratch:
Just because somebody feels differently about things, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong. Taste is taste. It's just different otherwise everybody would fall in love with exactly the same sort of person and that would create quite a problem, wouldn't it?

Adler
09-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Do you guys also know lottery numbers?

Eden
09-09-2006, 03:48 PM
If you mean boring interviews/personalities, yea, it's the Battle of the Boring.

I have to disagree. I don't know which interviews of Federer you are relating to to call it boring :shrug: For me he has a great way to communicate through the media. He speaks different languages, which allows him to give interviews in several languages. He is very mature in the things he says.

Beside this I don't know why you describe his personality as boring :shrug: I'm pretty impressed that Federer doesn't seem only to life just for tennis. He has his foundation and is a UNICEF ambassador. Everyone who knows him for years says that he hasn't changed since becoming famous and is still down to earth. And read all the things which the other players on the tour say about him. :)

dkw
09-09-2006, 03:50 PM
Boring? I vote that all MTF members put on shirts that say "N-Block" and that we all go to this semifinal to yell really loudly for Davydenko. According to some people this apparently increases the excitement of a match. :angel:
No, no... 1/3 should put on yankees caps and in the middle of the match start shouting "Let's go Yankees". The other 1/3 would shout "Let's go Mets" and then the last drunken bunch would shout "Let's go Boston" which would start a big brawl. And the umpire would have to say "As a courtesy to the players, could we please focus on tennis" LOL!

Finns4
09-09-2006, 04:06 PM
Davydenko 6-0 6-0 6-1.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Lets Get realistic here

Davydenko 7-6 (21) 6-7 (20) 7-6 (19) 6-7 (0) 7-6 (44)

dkw
09-09-2006, 04:10 PM
Lets Get realistic here
Davydenko 7-6 (21) 6-7 (20) 7-6 (19) 6-7 (0) 7-6 (44)
:haha: :haha: That would be painful to the players and the audience!

LoveFifteen
09-09-2006, 04:13 PM
Why do peolple think Roger Federer plays boring tennis?

Because they are stupid and no nothing about tennis.

silverarrows
09-09-2006, 04:38 PM
Fed leads Nikolay 4-1

NeverSayDie
09-09-2006, 04:40 PM
Federer does not play boring tennis. Most of his shots are absolutely sublime, its just that most of the matches he plays are so one-sided that the match actually becomes boring to watch. Im not blaming Fed for this as i think he's a one of a kind player. Im a Nadal lover but Fed admirer ;)

Naranoc
09-09-2006, 04:41 PM
Federer is serving up the first breadstick of the match.

Dirk
09-09-2006, 04:43 PM
Davy has very pretty girlfriend. :)

Jlee
09-09-2006, 04:52 PM
:o *yawn*

Jagermeister
09-09-2006, 04:56 PM
I think the real surprise is that Mirka is not dressed like the girlfriend of a Russian mobster. She looks great in her Hamptons outfit. :)

silverarrows
09-09-2006, 05:34 PM
last set.

tangerine_dream
09-09-2006, 06:35 PM
That match was indeed boring. :lol:

But at least the less-boring player won. :D

Jagermeister
09-09-2006, 06:44 PM
not too much drama in this match. even the middle set was pretty blah.

Congrats to Federer on yet another Slam final (i know, i'm shocked too! :) )

DrJules
09-09-2006, 06:47 PM
Davydenko 6-0 6-0 6-1.


Need to work on those predictions.

ABandt
09-09-2006, 08:28 PM
Perhaps the smartest comment ever made by any poster, if shouting, jumping up-and-down and pumping fists is an indication of one having a "personality" then I guess monkeys should never have evolved into human beings, we obviously had much more "personality" back then.

But what can you say to those who find that kind of behavior "exciting", and a guy who looks like a chimpanzee "attractive".

While I don't go so far as to question his fans taste (to each their own and all of that) you can still count me in with those people that don't quite think that Nadal is a big time personality on the court. I'm constantly hear about how much charisma Nadal is supposed to have and how exciting he is to watch but I watch a match of his and I go...eh? That's it...that's all.

Now Baghdatis is an example of a guy that has a big time personality out there.

Roger of court has shown that he has a good personality, he has a sense of humor and smiles and laughs a lot. But I think he's just one of those players that has to be stoic and quiet on the court...he's got so much going off in that computer of a brain of his that he needs to stay focused on the task at hand. And perhaps some of it has to do with the fact that he had trouble with his temper as a junior he needs to keep it calm and easy now.

~Amy

dkw
09-09-2006, 09:18 PM
As predicted Federer vs Kolya was an absolute thriller of a match :yawn:

btw if Roddick manages to get past Misha (he's currently up 2 sets to 1) he has virtually no chance tomorrow. Like 20% and that's only if Roger gets a stomach virus tonight.