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Could Nadal Dominate The Australian Open Like He Has The French?

Jaffas85
09-08-2006, 11:15 AM
I know the Australian Open is still several months away though I thought it would be quite interesting to see whether Nadal would be almost as, if not as much, dominate over the other players playing at the slow hardcourt Australian Open Grand Slam as he would be at the French..

Just how much faster is the Australian Open compared to the French Open and would you give Nadal the edge in this Grand Slam over Federer?

BTW, Isn't the Tennis Masters Event at the end of the year meant to have a similar surface to the Australian Open which could also favour Nadal? Nadal could stand to earn many more points by the conclusion of January 07'.

Thanks.

oz_boz
09-08-2006, 11:20 AM
Probably not.

Guybrush
09-08-2006, 11:21 AM
Nope.

Adler
09-08-2006, 11:26 AM
Dominate? No, but his chances are bigger that at USO for sure

All_Slam_Andre
09-08-2006, 11:40 AM
I don't think he'll dominate, but I'm convinced he'll win at least 2 Australian Open titles in his career. I think that Federer and Nadal's best rivalry will be on rebound ace at the Australian Open. I think Federer's always going to have the edge at Wimbledon and the US Open, while Nadal will be the main man at the French Open, so Australia is the best chance. Don't forget that Rafa isn't indestructable just yet though, as he lost to an ageng Carlos Moya in Miami, which is the slowest hardcourt on tour.

connectolove
09-08-2006, 11:41 AM
Cinci and the US Open have been dismal faliures for Nadal. I hope that he improves on hard surfaces or else.

Blue Heart24
09-08-2006, 11:45 AM
no way

Andre♥
09-08-2006, 11:47 AM
We need to wait for AO'06. We never saw the real Nadal there and you need way more than ability to play well in the australian open. You need to be in shape in the first month of the season. And that's not easy. Can Nadal do it? We don't know, because top-player Nadal never played there.

Exodus
09-08-2006, 11:55 AM
We need to wait for AO'06. We never saw the real Nadal there and you need way more than ability to play well in the australian open. You need to be in shape in the first month of the season. And that's not easy. Can Nadal do it? We don't know, because top-player Nadal never played there.

wait for AO 06???

anyway he don't stand a chance at all

Adler
09-08-2006, 12:07 PM
We need to wait for AO'06
Well, we waited and Federer won. Against Baghdatis in the final
:)

cmurray
09-08-2006, 12:19 PM
I think the makings are there for Rafa to clean up down under. They are just the kind of conditions that Rafa likes. A nice high bounce to add to the difficulty of the topspin he puts on balls, a slower ball to give make the most of his superior defense.

I actually think that Marat's game is uniquely suited to down under as well. I don't know how a match between Marat and Rafa would go, but I'd LOVE to find out.


Cheryl

BlueSwan
09-08-2006, 12:21 PM
First off, its true that the slow speed and high bouncing balls of the Aussie Open benefits Nadal. However there are other factors at play which speaks against him dominating:

1) The massive spin Nadal employs won't have the same effect on Rebound Ace that it does on clay.

2) You cannot slide on hardcourts. The sliding aspect of clay DOES make a difference. Some players (mainly american) really hates it, while players who've grown up on the stuff loves it.

3) There are loads of the top players that feel competitive on rebound ace, while only a couple of handfuls of spanish and south-american players feel truly competitive at RG (expect Federer). Nadal dominates those players.

scarecrows
09-08-2006, 12:24 PM
dominate never

but he might have a chance to win it once

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 12:39 PM
He might have to win it first.

Monteque
09-08-2006, 12:44 PM
We need to wait for AO'06. .

Yeah surely we need time machines to realize your aim, and see the crying Fed for twice..... :crying2:

Roger The Great
09-08-2006, 12:46 PM
BTW, Isn't the Tennis Masters Event at the end of the year meant to have a similar surface to the Australian Open which could also favour Nadal? Nadal could stand to earn many more points by the conclusion of January 07'.

The rebound ace at the Aussie Open and the court at the TMC in Shanghai are VERY different. They use a slow rebound ace hardcourt in Melbourne while they use a very fast synthetic surface laid over top of wood in Shanghai.

brent-o
09-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Cinci and the US Open have been dismal faliures for Nadal. I hope that he improves on hard surfaces or else.

Dismal failures? He got to the quarters here. I would call that semi-success.

Castafiore
09-08-2006, 01:33 PM
The rebound ace at the Aussie Open and the court at the TMC in Shanghai are VERY different. They use a slow rebound ace hardcourt in Melbourne while they use a very fast synthetic surface laid over top of wood in Shanghai.
Wasn't there talk of changing the surface in Shanghai so that it's more similar to that of the Aussie Open?

bad gambler
09-08-2006, 01:38 PM
Didn't you create a similar thread like this about 3 months ago?

Io non ho paura
09-08-2006, 01:39 PM
Nadal has the perfect game to win the Australian Open. The surface suits spin I know much, and nadal has the ability to defend and attack on this surface. To perfect it compromised for to player like Nadal.

Monteque
09-08-2006, 01:56 PM
Dominate, no.
Just for win, yes.

NYCtennisfan
09-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Nadal's game is better suited for Rebound Ace, but what is funny is when people start comparing the speed of a court with clay. It's not just about "speed". It's the fact that the ball slows down and pops up, it's the fact that players have to be able to slide to be any good on it, it's the fact that the normal strategy of bashing the ball from the baseline is probably not going to allow you to hit through your opponent that makes clay such a different animal.

Yes, the Rebound Ace surface will get the ball high off of Nadal's topspin, but none of the players will have to slide and that means they will get cleaner hits on big FH's. A lot of the problems that Nadal had at the USO last year and the entire summer hardcourt season will still have to addressed before he can even think about "cleaning up" at the Ao.

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 04:22 PM
He can do well here... but no gaurentee's, plenty of the other clay greats didnt do so brilliant here considering some ppl (rafa fans deluding themselves? :p) think its slow and clay-like.
rebound ace seems to be a surface everyone can play quite well on.

t0x
09-08-2006, 04:29 PM
I think he'll win it at some stage, he won't dominate though; too many people who are bad-match ups for Nadal feel competitive on the surface compared to clay.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-08-2006, 06:28 PM
He won't dominate, but he can win.

Hoping for a nice Fed beat down in the finals. 7-6,6-7,7-6,6-7,22-20 :D

Federer will have to retire from tennis because of fatigue. :p

canbera
09-08-2006, 08:10 PM
The rebound ace at the Aussie Open and the court at the TMC in Shanghai are VERY different. They use a slow rebound ace hardcourt in Melbourne while they use a very fast synthetic surface laid over top of wood in Shanghai.

so what exactly does "Rebound Ace" mean? Is there such a big difference to a usual Hardcourt? And is Carpet faster thanl Hard Court or the other way round? Where exactly is the difference.

I really need some more surface-knowledge ;)

Halba
09-08-2006, 09:51 PM
i think a lot of people now have worked out nadal's game..you have people outside the top 20 like youzhny thrashing him to pieces..goes to show they aren't scared of nadal outside of clay...even on clay i reckon you'll have people beating him next year...his game is poor to watch, just a one-dimensional baseline game....other guys willing to attack and step it up will beat him :wavey: rafa

Andre♥
09-08-2006, 11:30 PM
Well, we waited and Federer won. Against Baghdatis in the final
:)

Lol, I always write the wrong year.

It's typical from me! :p

AO'07 of course!