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Worst crowd in all of US open. Blake was right

hasanahmad
09-08-2006, 04:33 AM
Blake "Its a testament to the best player ever that he was playing against more than 1 person, me and this crowd"

Federer: "You know its tough winning such a close match especially against a crowd like this"


This was an alltime low, it wasnt even this low in all the Agassi matches. Whenever federer was tossing the ball, the crowd would start shouting. I have an HDTV so I saw people taunting and ranting against Federer WHENEVER he won the point and Clapped whenever Federer lost a point.

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 04:34 AM
Fantastic atmosphere :)

Dirk
09-08-2006, 04:34 AM
They were probably even worse in 03 with Blake when Roger wasn't very well known. I am glad Roger won out in the end and this will make him tougher for finals with Andy.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 04:35 AM
And for a player who's GS success in eight seasons is two QF's at the US Open with easy ass draws.

FedererGrandSlam
09-08-2006, 04:35 AM
Roger won, so who cares?

martinatreue
09-08-2006, 04:35 AM
Scumbag crowd. Glad Blake was sent home :)

scoobs
09-08-2006, 04:36 AM
Blake apologised to Roger for them.

He didn't seem too worried about it when they were doing their best to turn the match in James's favour any way they could. Not that he needed much help - ChockoFed was in the driving seat tonight.

selesfan
09-08-2006, 04:36 AM
They were probably even worse in 03 with Blake when Roger wasn't very well known. I am glad Roger won out in the end and this will make him tougher for finals with Andy.

I thought they were worse in 2004 when Roger played Andre over the course of 2 days because of the rain delay. Maybe it was because I was there it just sounded louder.

Polikarpov
09-08-2006, 04:37 AM
Was it worse than the French crowd?

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:37 AM
This is surprising, is it?

~*BGT*~
09-08-2006, 04:37 AM
Blake "Its a testament to the best player ever that he was playing against more than 1 person, me and this crowd"

Federer: "You know its tough winning such a close match especially against a crowd like this"


This was an alltime low, it wasnt even this low in all the Agassi matches. Whenever federer was tossing the ball, the crowd would start shouting. I have an HDTV so I saw people taunting and ranting against Federer WHENEVER he won the point and Clapped whenever Federer lost a point.
:rolleyes:

Fed losing a point is the same as James winning a point. Why wouldn't they clap?

hasanahmad
09-08-2006, 04:37 AM
:rolleyes:

Fed losing a point is the same as James winning a point. Why wouldn't they clap?

whenever Federer went for a winner and it hit the net or went long.

Dirk
09-08-2006, 04:38 AM
I thought they were worse in 2004 when Roger played Andre over the course of 2 days because of the rain delay. Maybe it was because I was there it just sounded louder.

It is ok in a few days Roger will have as many USOs has Andre and Andy combined. :)

hasanahmad
09-08-2006, 04:38 AM
Was it worse than the French crowd?

Let me give u an example

French Crowd is a crowd full of kittens mewing
Today's crowd was full of dogs barking

selesfan
09-08-2006, 04:40 AM
It is ok in a few days Roger will have as many USOs has Andre and Andy combined. :)

I hope so. He almost gave me a heart attack tonight. :)

mickymouse
09-08-2006, 04:41 AM
:rolleyes:

Fed losing a point is the same as James winning a point. Why wouldn't they clap?

Total class.

Pea
09-08-2006, 04:42 AM
Was not as worse as gagassi's matches.

prima donna
09-08-2006, 04:42 AM
:rolleyes:

Fed losing a point is the same as James winning a point. Why wouldn't they clap?

Wait until Andy gets his ass handed to him by Roger, then we'll find out where you stand with regard to discussion on this board.

Dirk
09-08-2006, 04:43 AM
I hope so. He almost gave me a heart attack tonight. :)

Andy doesn't return like James or have the ground game plus Roger will be mentality stronger for the final. We aren't the only ones unhappy about his chokes jobs tonight.

scoobs
09-08-2006, 04:43 AM
I'm not fussed how bad the crowd was - whatever - Roger expected that.

What's actually annoyed me is that Blake USED the crowd as much as he could to tip it back his way (fair enough) and then basically apologised for them afterward.

Excuse me?

Don't take full advantage of them then say "yeah sorry they were hard on you"

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:43 AM
Wait until Andy gets his ass handed to him by Roger, then we'll find out where you stand with regard to discussion on this board.

It won't take long.

Jimnik
09-08-2006, 04:44 AM
Blake "Its a testament to the best player ever that he was playing against more than 1 person, me and this crowd"

So where in this quote does he say that it was the "worst croud"?

How can a croud that cheers enthusiastically for their home player be described as the "worst croud"?

RogiFan88
09-08-2006, 04:44 AM
not for Americans :lol:

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 04:46 AM
In fairness to New Yorkers, I think most of those tards were imported from other parts of New England to cheer for Fake.

Wannabeknowitall
09-08-2006, 04:48 AM
And for a player who's GS success in eight seasons is two QF's at the US Open with easy ass draws.

That crowd got him to his first QF.
They were horrible when he played Nadal last year.

bellascarlett
09-08-2006, 04:49 AM
I'm from NY and I must say that was one of the most annoying crowds ever. Very rude, very rude. Couldn't even shut up once Federer started serving, boo-ing when he challenged. so disrespectful.

Fed really could have rolled over their guy much much easier. He was quite generous tonight I thought. :o...

Wannabeknowitall
09-08-2006, 04:49 AM
I'm not fussed how bad the crowd was - whatever - Roger expected that.

What's actually annoyed me is that Blake USED the crowd as much as he could to tip it back his way (fair enough) and then basically apologised for them afterward.

Excuse me?

Don't take full advantage of them then say "yeah sorry they were hard on you"
He did that against Nadal last year and then had the nerve to have a hissy fit when he had to deal with a lot less in his match against Monfils at the French Open this year.

selesfan
09-08-2006, 04:51 AM
That crowd got him to his first QF.
They were horrible when he played Nadal last year.


Didn't he make the semis last year? I can't remember but I thought Agassi beat him in the semis

mickymouse
09-08-2006, 04:51 AM
If Federer meets Roddick in the finals, he'll have an even tougher time because Roddick works the crowd much more than Blake or Agassi.

mickymouse
09-08-2006, 04:52 AM
Didn't he make the semis last year? I can't remember but I thought Agassi beat him in the semis

Agassi beat him in QFs, and Ginepri in semis.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 04:52 AM
No Agassi beat him in the QF, but they made it seem like Blake won a slam.

shotgun
09-08-2006, 04:53 AM
I'm not fussed how bad the crowd was - whatever - Roger expected that.

What's actually annoyed me is that Blake USED the crowd as much as he could to tip it back his way (fair enough) and then basically apologised for them afterward.

Excuse me?

Don't take full advantage of them then say "yeah sorry they were hard on you"

Did you really expect Blake to shut them up during the match?

Wannabeknowitall
09-08-2006, 04:54 AM
Didn't he make the semis last year? I can't remember but I thought Agassi beat him in the semis
Blake only has two QFs to his name in the slams. Agassi beat Robby Ginepri in the semis of last year US Open.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 04:54 AM
In other words, Ginepri has achieved more in slam's than James Blake.

selesfan
09-08-2006, 04:59 AM
No Agassi beat him in the QF, but they made it seem like Blake won a slam.

Thanks I couldn't remember, I just remembered that he choked big time.

Kalliopeia
09-08-2006, 04:59 AM
Agassi beat him in QFs, and Ginepri in semis.


Wait...that match they kept showing during rain delays was a quarter final match? He played Ginepri in the semis? For some reason I find that hilarious.

Fedever
09-08-2006, 04:59 AM
Blake "Its a testament to the best player ever that he was playing against more than 1 person, me and this crowd"

Federer: "You know its tough winning such a close match especially against a crowd like this"


This was an alltime low, it wasnt even this low in all the Agassi matches. Whenever federer was tossing the ball, the crowd would start shouting. I have an HDTV so I saw people taunting and ranting against Federer WHENEVER he won the point and Clapped whenever Federer lost a point.

Yeah, it was disgusting! :mad: And what your are telling me you saw with HDTV makes it even worse!! Is that why he didn't put it away sooner??
Show some class people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Federer!!!

selesfan
09-08-2006, 04:59 AM
Agassi beat him in QFs, and Ginepri in semis.


thanks I forgot about Ginepri's big year. ;)

selesfan
09-08-2006, 05:00 AM
Wait...that match they kept showing during rain delays was a quarter final match? He played Ginepri in the semis? For some reason I find that hilarious.

Thats why I was confused, I thought they were playing for a spot in the final.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 05:02 AM
Did you really expect Blake to shut them up during the match?

They should be allowed to throw flares and missles that would make it interesting.

Fedever
09-08-2006, 05:03 AM
I hope so. He almost gave me a heart attack tonight. :)


He almost gave me a heart attack too!! :) :) :)

onewoman74
09-08-2006, 05:12 AM
I'm from NY and I must say that was one of the most annoying crowds ever. Very rude, very rude. Couldn't even shut up once Federer started serving, boo-ing when he challenged. so disrespectful.

Fed really could have rolled over their guy much much easier. He was quite generous tonight I thought. :o...

Born and raised in Brooklyn...this was a shitty crowd!! I don't care if you care only about Americans winning, just don't scream, boo, hiss, holller, yell, or make any other fucking noise when a player is about to serve...that's just shitty behavior!!

Raquel Sun
09-08-2006, 05:25 AM
There have been worse crowds at the French and Australian. If a British player comes close at Wimbledon even the English audience would be rooting for him vociferously. So Blake is only being spoken of because it is PC? In other words because he is black?Blake was pretty much written off 2 years ago. No one not even the McEnroes held out much hope. He put in the work and won titles and matches that he would have lost previously. No one gave him the titles or lost matches because he is black or because he is an American. That is why he is in the media and not because it is PC. I suppose according to the small cadre on this board (including the so-called Americans with the flags) Americans have no right to cheer and to try to pull another American through a tough match. Every other country has that right but not Americans.

So be happy that your European guy won but neither Blake nor the American crowd deserve your derision nor censure.

By the way, in the scheme of things, over 400,000 people are attending these matches. Probably similar numbers for the other grand slams. You have about 40,000 registered members and probably 1000 who post at any given time and maybe 50-100 who post on a regular basis, so you are deluding yourselves into thinking most tennis fans see these players, particularly the American ones in the same manner as you.

Blake acquitted himself well. The only thing he did wrong was to try to placate people like ones on this board. There was nothing to apologize for. He obviously still has no clue that people who hate you for what you are do not give a damn how apologetic or humble you can be. People who tend to hate are going to hate you anyway no matter what you say or do so you may as well not even try to placate them. Hold your head up and keep your dignity is the better play, to hell with all the rest.

Whistleway
09-08-2006, 05:26 AM
Even federer was royally pissed at the crowd in the end. they won the 3rd for blake,

selesfan
09-08-2006, 05:38 AM
There have been worse crowds at the French and Australian. If a British player comes close at Wimbledon even the English audience would be rooting for him vociferously. So Blake is only being spoken of because it is PC? In other words because he is black?Blake was pretty much written off 2 years ago. No one not even the McEnroes held out much hope. He put in the work and won titles and matches that he would have lost previously. No one gave him the titles or lost matches because he is black or because he is an American. That is why he is in the media and not because it is PC. I suppose according to the small cadre on this board (including the so-called Americans with the flags) Americans have no right to cheer and to try to pull another American through a tough match. Every other country has that right but not Americans.

So be happy that your European guy won but neither Blake nor the American crowd deserve your derision nor censure.

By the way, in the scheme of things, over 400,000 people are attending these matches. Probably similar numbers for the other grand slams. You have about 40,000 registered members and probably 1000 who post at any given time and maybe 50-100 who post on a regular basis, so you are deluding yourselves into thinking most tennis fans see these players, particularly the American ones in the same manner as you.

Blake acquitted himself well. The only thing he did wrong was to try to placate people like ones on this board. There was nothing to apologize for. He obviously still has no clue that people who hate you for what you are do not give a damn how apologetic or humble you can be. People who tend to hate are going to hate you anyway no matter what you say or do so you may as well not even try to placate them. Hold your head up and keep your dignity is the better play, to hell with all the rest.

What does James being black have to do with anything. :rolleyes: It is fine to root for your player but its rude to scream while your opponent is trying to serve or cheering double faults. I feel the same way when the French are rude to players at the FO also.

Freddi22cl
09-08-2006, 05:39 AM
There have been worse crowds at the French and Australian

worse at The Australian? name the match and yr

thks in advance

robrulz5
09-08-2006, 05:44 AM
The crowd was shocking. Always booing Federer and even cheering as he was about to serve.

The French crowd are pretty bad but the American's take the cake. I think it comes down to the fact that they are not an educated crowd when it comes to Tennis.

Nothing wrong with the Australian crowds apart from the fanatics who are wankers anyway. I'm sure there is always the odd Collingwood supporter at the tennis on a day trip from prison which would bring the behaviour of the crowd down straight away!

Alan
09-08-2006, 05:44 AM
I'm not fussed how bad the crowd was - whatever - Roger expected that.

What's actually annoyed me is that Blake USED the crowd as much as he could to tip it back his way (fair enough) and then basically apologised for them afterward.

Excuse me?

Don't take full advantage of them then say "yeah sorry they were hard on you"

it would be pretty tough for james as well.. what? you expect him to ask the crowd to shut up? then the crowd wuld have turned against him.. how can you say that he used the crowd.... :cool:

mickymouse
09-08-2006, 05:48 AM
Baghdaits' sweaty dudes and Hewitt's Fanatics have the class to at least shut up when their opponents are serving and when the ball is in play.
Every player should start forking out money to hire guys to rattle their opponents and boo them when they're serving or when they're hitting the ball. This would make for a great atmosphere indeed.

tangerine_dream
09-08-2006, 05:50 AM
Could somebody please post a video that shows the crowd "always booing, jeering, hissing" Federer? 'Cause apparently the match that I caught on tape is missing all the booing parts. In fact, some of the Federer fans were just saying that the crowd was awfully quiet for being 20,000 strong. :scratch: Must be the biased USTA working behind the scenes or something.

And I know that Misha loves the NYC crowd. http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images/icons/icon10.gif Rock on, New Yorkers. :rocker2:

flip_fan
09-08-2006, 05:53 AM
worse at The Australian? name the match and yr

thks in advance

EXACTLY what i was thinking!! No way are the Australian crowds as disrespectful. Even when an aussie plays, they are not that bias...(lol, its almost part of our nature to not support our own) The tournament director has even banned large groups of aussie fanatics from sitting together on centre court to make it a fair environment. I guess the only roudy group was the greeks this year - but as the tournament went on they learnt the rules and were better behaved.

the crowd was terrible tonight. Federer was hitting some amazing shots and hardly anyone clapped. Aussie crowds appreciate good shots no matter who the player is.

Jagermeister
09-08-2006, 05:56 AM
The overall crowd wasn't bad at all

The J-block was ridiculous as usual and those were the fans who were being complete turds.

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 05:58 AM
It was a home team crowd, so was expected.
im sure its nothing personal against Fed or any other 'foreigner' those yanks just want their own to win bad.
and flushing meadows always creates a great atmosphere at night.

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 06:00 AM
The crowd was shocking. Always booing Federer and even cheering as he was about to serve.are you sure it wasnt the J-Block :p
they are a disgraceful bunch because you would think they should know better.
to me they embaress Blake more than anything else.

rmb6687
09-08-2006, 06:01 AM
And also, I have seen Roddick put his hands up during matches when the crowd was getting out of hand. I don't know if he has ever done it at the US....but he has definitely asked the crowd, with certain gestures, to shut up during points....James could have done something like that.

Sjengster
09-08-2006, 06:04 AM
To be honest I noticed immediately in the early stages that the J-Block was far more subdued than in previous matches, maybe out of respect for Federer, I don't know. Obviously the crowd as a whole got vocal in the tight moments, both the tiebreaks, but I didn't really notice anything excessive until that final game when the signs of choking really became overt. Federer certainly couldn't blame the crowd for his blow at 5-3 in the third, by that stage they understandably thought it was all over and were pretty quiet. I'd say the cheering of first serve faults and forehand errors in the last game was understandable, as the fans realised that Federer had already blown it twice and that Blake was only a couple of points away from getting back into the match, but still not excusable. Good of Roger to hit a ball in the J-Block's direction anyway after the match, although a generous gesture is always easier in victory than in defeat.

tangerine_dream
09-08-2006, 06:08 AM
There have been worse crowds at the French and Australian.
I agree, the French especially are the worst. I'll never forget them booing poor Rafael Nadal for no reason for ten minutes (not an exaggeration). Plus they love to try to mess up the rhythm of matches and influence its outcome (RG 2004 is a great example). They even boo injured players when they have to retire from a match! Tennis-wise, you can't get any more ignorant and low class than that.

The Aussies are very similar to USO crowds: loud/partying/enthusiastic/flashy. Great crowds. I'm always entertained by the Aussies and NYers. :cool: Both groups cheer for their home players and they cheer for others too. I haven't witnessed any shockingly bad behavior from them in years.

Interesting how the non-Americans here excuse Baghdatis' hooligan fan group at AO (in fact, they embraced them as "terrific fans!" and quickly jumped on Baggy's bandwagon) but are very harsh towards the J-Block and even hold Blake personally accountable for this group's behavior. :retard: MTF has very odd double standards around here, esp. when it comes to the Americans. It's part of the MTF Rules, I think.

Adler
09-08-2006, 06:09 AM
Roddick works the crowd much more than Blake or Agassi.
what?

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 06:10 AM
Oh! the old chestnut blame the French, good to see that is not getting old anytime soon.

Fedex
09-08-2006, 06:13 AM
Was it worse than the French crowd?
The French seem to boo more than any other crowd I have seen or been a part of. The USO crowd is no doubt the loudest and most hostile by far, however. It is New York, you know. ;)

World Beater
09-08-2006, 06:17 AM
the french have the mob mentality..they boo and hiss.

the new yorkers have some really crass hecklers that spew insults and taunting remarks in your face.

but one thing is common, the atmosphere is always electric for better or worse.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 06:20 AM
It doesn't matter who is worse, I think the below link explains it well enough. Let them throw stuff make it more enjoyable.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4059159&postcount=51

Jlee
09-08-2006, 06:20 AM
I would have been just like them in the audience. While I don't like booing...clapping and cheering when my favorite wins a point doesn't seem too harmful...

tennisphan
09-08-2006, 06:31 AM
i was there for both the match tonight and the agassi blake last year, and the blake fans (j-dorks) were SO MUCH worse last year, its not even a conversation.

How he has such a nice calm demener on TV yet allows his fans to (and buys a suite for them to) act like animals.

This is not davis cup, if 1/2 them in that suite even know what that is....

morningglory
09-08-2006, 06:43 AM
well, there goes the J-block :haha: See ya next year if yall bother to come :wavey:

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 06:51 AM
It doesn't matter who is worse, I think the below link explains it well enough. Let them throw stuff make it more enjoyable.Let them throw chairs at the player, Chilean Davis cup style ;)

BlakeorHenman
09-08-2006, 06:57 AM
This seems like a lame thing to bitch about.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 06:58 AM
Let them throw chairs at the player, Chilean Davis cup style ;)

Flares as well and yes the chairs that would make a spectacle.

Fed should have taken his shirt off after the match and did the Hulk Hogan gesture with his ear to the crowd.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006G8KI.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

mrserenawilliams
09-08-2006, 07:22 AM
And for a player who's GS success in eight seasons is two QF's at the US Open with easy ass draws.


...wow...you REALLY hate Blake don't you :eek: have you said ONE nice thing about him EVER?

Scotso
09-08-2006, 07:40 AM
The J Block needs to be banned. Those people are beyond stupid and annoying. And why the @#%^ did USA Network feel the need to show them after EVERY POINT?!

DrJules
09-08-2006, 07:48 AM
The J Block needs to be banned. Those people are beyond stupid and annoying. And why the @#%^ did USA Network feel the need to show them after EVERY POINT?!

Their behaviour probably is beyond the reasonable. Wimbledon would probably not admit fans behaving like them.

DrJules
09-08-2006, 07:49 AM
Fantastic atmosphere :)

Really. I and most who go to Wimbledon are far more civil in our conduct.

DrJules
09-08-2006, 07:54 AM
I agree, the French especially are the worst. I'll never forget them booing poor Rafael Nadal for no reason for ten minutes (not an exaggeration). Plus they love to try to mess up the rhythm of matches and influence its outcome (RG 2004 is a great example). They even boo injured players when they have to retire from a match! Tennis-wise, you can't get any more ignorant and low class than that.

The Aussies are very similar to USO crowds: loud/partying/enthusiastic/flashy. Great crowds. I'm always entertained by the Aussies and NYers. :cool: Both groups cheer for their home players and they cheer for others too. I haven't witnessed any shockingly bad behavior from them in years.

Interesting how the non-Americans here excuse Baghdatis' hooligan fan group at AO (in fact, they embraced them as "terrific fans!" and quickly jumped on Baggy's bandwagon) but are very harsh towards the J-Block and even hold Blake personally accountable for this group's behavior. :retard: MTF has very odd double standards around here, esp. when it comes to the Americans. It's part of the MTF Rules, I think.


Agreed the worst incidents have happened at the French Open, but the US Open seems to have them in greater numbers. An extreme nationalistic and partisan atmosphere seems to run through these crowds at times.

Yes the Baghdatis crowd was extreme at the AO, but Federer faced a more hostile crowd against Blake at the US Open than he did against Baghdatis in the AO. I suppose many are less critical of the AO crowd support for Baghdatis because it is not a case of extreme home crowd support; Baghdatis is not Australian.

Scotso
09-08-2006, 08:03 AM
Seriously, I got sick of seeing the three dudes in front (especially the blond) after, oh, the first Blake match that was aired.

Seriously! The old blonde one is like 300 years old. He should know better.

esther
09-08-2006, 08:17 AM
Has the US crowd always been like this? And is it only with during matches with american players?

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Yes the Baghdatis crowd was extreme at the AO.

Where they?

connectolove
09-08-2006, 08:21 AM
And Americans have the nerve to criticize the French!

It is official now, the American crowd are the top trailer trash list!

esther
09-08-2006, 08:22 AM
and in response to the bad australian crowds- yes the Fanatics and fans like that can be obnoxious and ignorant at the best of times, but ive never seen nonstop cheering when the non-aussie is tryign to serve

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 08:23 AM
And Americans have the nerve to criticize the French!

It is official now, the American crowd are the top trailer trash list!

Didn't know the golden rule? Oh! it's Ok, we are not as bad as the French rule.

Chocobo
09-08-2006, 08:45 AM
And Americans have the nerve to criticize the French!

It is official now, the American crowd are the top trailer trash list!

tangerine_dream is not representative of all Americans, you know :lol:

Chocobo
09-08-2006, 08:53 AM
Yes the Baghdatis crowd was extreme at the AO, but Federer faced a more hostile crowd against Blake at the US Open than he did against Baghdatis in the AO.

As for Baghdatis, this comes from the fact that hkis supporters at AO 06 were quite ignorant of the things of tennis in the beginning.

They were suddenly attracted by the event of a greek chypriot achieving such things in a sport event, got to buy some tickets at the last moment, and in some matches they behaved close from a football crowd :lol:

But they were never "hostile" IMO, just raucous

pancit
09-08-2006, 09:50 AM
20,000 New Yorkers in one arena is gonna be loud anyway you cut it. Since tennis is pretty low on the popularity list here, the USO needs all the excitement it can get imo.

scoobs
09-08-2006, 11:12 AM
That's his point: why apologize for the crowd when you're using them to your advantage and the thing you've talked about repeatedly in your pre-match interviews is how you're going to need the crowd's help and support in pulling off the win? :tape:

He can use the crowd all he wants, but it's disengenuous to apologize for them afterwards when they were only doing exactly what he was hoping they'd do.

*

And honestly, the crowd wasn't as bad as in the Agassi matches, but it did get pretty damn ridiculous at certain points. Clapping on a player's unforced error is one thing; yelling on purpose when a guy is serving or purposely squealing during a match point (cf. Federer's second match point) is another. Credit to Roger for being focused enough to get past all that b.s., but then again, that's part of what makes him tough to beat.
That's exactly the point I was making - thanks J'torian

I DON'T expect James to shut them up - he has home court advantage and was happy to use it.

I expect him NOT to apologize for it after, though - it's just a bit hypocritical. Although on one level James perhaps did feel sorry for how much tougher the crowd were trying to make it, on the other hand he can't exactly have been sorry that they were doing their best to lift him to greater heights - AND disrupt his opponent's concentration, giving him his best chance of getting a good result.

It's the apology I don't like at all - I don't believe it. The crowd were bad but OF COURSE the crowd were bad - that was only to be expected.

scoobs
09-08-2006, 11:14 AM
Flares as well and yes the chairs that would make a spectacle.

Fed should have taken his shirt off after the match and did the Hulk Hogan gesture with his ear to the crowd.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006G8KI.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

ROFL

When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside...

Experimentee
09-08-2006, 11:16 AM
I dont think the crowd were that bad. They never loudly booed Federer, except for when he challenged clals which were clearly correct.
The French crowd is much worse, not to mention the Spanish and South American crowds in DC.

Neely
09-08-2006, 11:16 AM
haha, now the crowd was so bad again? :haha:
I saw the whole match and they did not do anything really bad.

Some people really need to toughen out! :rolleyes:

Look at Roger, he also didn't complain, he knew what he was up to and just played.

atpSUPERMAN
09-08-2006, 11:17 AM
Andre isn't far from beating Federer when you think about that 5-setter couple of years ago and then the Final last year that 6-2 set and 1-set-all and up a break in the 3rd. Its impressive how close 36-year-old Agassi is to the top player in the world. Given that Agassi is well past his prime it really shows how far behind this era is from the previous era.

Experimentee
09-08-2006, 11:21 AM
That's exactly the point I was making - thanks J'torian

I DON'T expect James to shut them up - he has home court advantage and was happy to use it.

I expect him NOT to apologize for it after, though - it's just a bit hypocritical. Although on one level James perhaps did feel sorry for how much tougher the crowd were trying to make it, on the other hand he can't exactly have been sorry that they were doing their best to lift him to greater heights - AND disrupt his opponent's concentration, giving him his best chance of getting a good result.

It's the apology I don't like at all - I don't believe it. The crowd were bad but OF COURSE the crowd were bad - that was only to be expected.

It has become the custom in tennis to do things like apologise even when you don't mean it. Thats like when someone wins off a lucky net cord, or a lucky mishit, and then apologise. If they didnt apologise, they'd be bitched at by the fans, but when they do, its insincere, so they really cant win.

I dont really see a problem with Blake apologising. He is just showing that he sympathised with Roger's situation, even though he was glad for the support.

Jade Fox
09-08-2006, 11:22 AM
I went to a baseball game Yankees vs. Mariners at Yankee stadium. The New Yorkers were loud, crazy, obnoxious, and there was this person who wore a New York Mets shirt that got taunted regulary. It was very different from all the baseball games I've been to in Atlanta.

The US Open crowd is not an American thing, it's a New York thing. If the US Open was held in Atlanta the crowd would be much more laid back.

Neely
09-08-2006, 11:31 AM
It has become the custom in tennis to do things like apologise even when you don't mean it. Thats like when someone wins off a lucky net cord, or a lucky mishit, and then apologise. If they didnt apologise, they'd be bitched at by the fans, but when they do, its insincere, so they really cant win.
Thanks for that :)
I just wanted to reply that to scoob's post.
Another example, somebody intentionally hits into the body of somebody at the net and they apologize. They don't mean it either, they knew exactly what they were doing.

scoobs
09-08-2006, 11:39 AM
Thanks for that :)
I just wanted to reply that to scoob's post.
Another example, somebody intentionally hits into the body of somebody at the net and they apologize. They don't mean it either, they knew exactly what they were doing.
*grin*

Okay, point taken.

Having said that there's a difference is scale between apologizing for one lucky netcord or one mishit forehand or one ball hitting the opponent in the middle of play.

It's one a different sort of scale when you apologize at the end for a match for a crowd that have persistently been trying to influence the course of the match with their antics and have benefited your scoreline no end.

Also it's apologizing for something that's not really something YOU'VE done. The crowd were external to Blake - yes, helping and supporting him. It wasn't his action - a mishit, a ball hitting the opponent, a lucky netcord off his shot...that's as a direct result of his own actions on the court. Why apologize on behalf of a bunch of people you have no control over?

Still, you can view it as politeness or hypocrisy - it the heat of last night it struck me as hypocrisy more than anything else.

In any case, ultimately it didn't matter and I'm relieved about that.

Skyward
09-08-2006, 11:50 AM
Andre isn't far from beating Federer when you think about that 5-setter couple of years ago and then the Final last year that 6-2 set and 1-set-all and up a break in the 3rd. Its impressive how close 36-year-old Agassi is to the top player in the world. Given that Agassi is well past his prime it really shows how far behind this era is from the previous era.


:retard: Wrong topic?

Neely
09-08-2006, 11:58 AM
Also it's apologizing for something that's not really something YOU'VE done. The crowd were external to Blake - yes, helping and supporting him. It wasn't his action - a mishit, a ball hitting the opponent, a lucky netcord off his shot...that's as a direct result of his own actions on the court. Why apologize on behalf of a bunch of people you have no control over?
I understand it how you mean that. It's hard to look into Blake's mind to say how he really meant it, but I would think an excuse for something somebody else does might be even a bigger action than excusing your own mistake. It showed he felt responsable for some people there in the crowd (rightfully so because he knows all fans in the J-Block personally) and maybe he wanted to be polite or so to Federer. Then again, you could say why did Blake do nothing against that during the match? Sure you can ask that question.

I think Blake is a fair player and a gentle guy and that he would not instruct his J-Block fans to harass his opponents in any way with some questionable things. I don't know if these fans also tried to disrupt Federer while the ball was already in play, but I hope not so. If so, it would make sense that this was not in Blake's sense as he wanted them to behave.

delsa
09-08-2006, 12:29 PM
Fantastic initiative from Blake. :hearts:

kapranos
09-08-2006, 12:39 PM
If Federer can't handle a couple of boos and claps, then he should find another job. :wavey:

Meanwhile people, get over it. I watched the first 3 sets and I did not see anything wrong with the crowd, they were actually quiet at the end of the third set. I'm sure they got louder at the end of the match, but Fed was able to handle it, so it mustn't have been so horrible. :wavey:

vincayou
09-08-2006, 12:50 PM
Glad to see that the mantra "the French crowd is worse" is still usefull on MTF. :)

Anyway, I didn't see Blake Federer apart from the first games, so I can't comment.

Godiva
09-08-2006, 12:55 PM
Why is everyone being such a damn wimp?? The crowd, the crowd. The crowd my ass. I didn't see Roger bitching over it. What, you think players aren't accustomed to noisy crowds? And so what if Blake apologised. It's a crime to apologise now? Heck, if he didn't then some other doofus would be bitching about him not being classy enough to apologise. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Smacks of insecurity to me. :confused:

Anyway, it was a really nice match and very electric as it usually is when Blake plays. I hope Fed wins the whole thing.

cmurray
09-08-2006, 01:12 PM
The crowd was noisy. So what? You don't see basketball fans complaining about the noise at Knicks games, do you? This is EXACTLY why people roll their eyes at tennis. Everyone thinks it's some prissy sport where you can't even cheer for the "home team". Apparently they're right.

Oriental_Rain
09-08-2006, 01:14 PM
they just couldnt bear the fact that the best man in tennis is not from America :rolleyes:

tennisphan
09-08-2006, 01:21 PM
I dont know how it looked on TV, but if you care to hear from someone who was at both this match and the agassi blake match last year, read below (and if you want opinions from some people who have no clue, but think they do, read above):

The J-Dorks are maybe 1% of the arena, they are not representative of 23,00 people. Those same 23,000 people are not representative of 8 million people, especially since more than 1/2 of the people at the open are not even from NYC!!!

And if you are comparing the match last night to the agaqssi match, your memory has faded in 12 months, as the agassi match was SO MUCH more loud than last night.


also, some of you people have to realize that not everyone is a tennis geek like us. Some people are casual fans, out for a nice evening of fun. They root for someone, and may not know what the etiquette is, and the USTA makes NO effort to distribute or share any information. They dont even have staff on the top section of the arena (where at least 50% of the people sit), so most people just coem and go as they please, middle of the point or not. But you know what, everyone who goes to the US open has a great time, and maybe some more people will get turned onto tennis. Its a sport, its emotional, people cheer.






...jadefox, please go to baseball games in boston and philly. Wear a mets shirt and then come back and report how easy the guy had it at yankee stadium. Then, we can all generalize entire cities by the section of the population who goes to baseball games! give you something about us yankees to talk about....

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 01:37 PM
As for Baghdatis, this comes from the fact that hkis supporters at AO 06 were quite ignorant of the things of tennis in the beginning.

They were suddenly attracted by the event of a greek chypriot achieving such things in a sport event, got to buy some tickets at the last moment, and in some matches they behaved close from a football crowd :lol:

But they were never "hostile" IMO, just raucous

Better watch it, I might get called a liar for saying they weren't hooligans, but what you said was pretty much right. They gave Stepanek a hard time, but after that they settled down.

revolution
09-08-2006, 01:39 PM
Better watch it, I might get called a liar for saying they weren't hooligans, but what you said was pretty much right. They gave Stepanek a hard time, but after that they settled down.

Everyone gives Stepanek a hard time :)

kapranos
09-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Stepanek gives me a hard on.

avocadoe
09-08-2006, 02:15 PM
I missed most of the noise as I keep the sound below hearing the commentators much of the match. I like JMac but find him repetitious :)

joeb_uk
09-08-2006, 02:15 PM
It is sport!!! what is worse; a shitty crowd who don't make the match atmosphere at all, or a nice loud croud who are really into it last night??

Tennis is not a damn opera where the crowd has to be silent, sport requires a good atmosphere like that!

Ryan
09-08-2006, 02:19 PM
Pff, the crowd was perfectly fine. They cheered for Blake, an American, at the US Open. Oh, what a travesty. It's a fucking SPORT. Watch football, rugby, soccer, hockey, it doesn't matter, you have loud, rowdy fans. Yeah, tennis isn't exactly the most spectator friendly of all sports, but IMO it's much better to have a crowd that's really in to the match than one sitting on their hands. Roger handled it well, Blake realized that the crowd was with him, and couldn't take advantage. Great match, great atmosphere.

Socket
09-08-2006, 02:38 PM
I went to a baseball game Yankees vs. Mariners at Yankee stadium. The New Yorkers were loud, crazy, obnoxious, and there was this person who wore a New York Mets shirt that got taunted regulary. It was very different from all the baseball games I've been to in Atlanta.

The US Open crowd is not an American thing, it's a New York thing. If the US Open was held in Atlanta the crowd would be much more laid back.
You've clearly never been to a football game in Philadelphia. Or Chicago. Or Oakland. :lol:

I've never really understood why tennis persists in this silly "silence during the points" rule. Let the fans make noise, just as they do in every other sport. The players are just playing a sport, not performing brain surgery. They're supposed to be professional sportsmen, not delicate flowers.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 02:39 PM
Instead of crowd, it should be James Blake fans.

Once again, a player with no big titles and 2 slam QF's in eight years.

Sounds like someone a bunch of Ivy League tards and whores would get behind.

Socket
09-08-2006, 02:42 PM
Instead of crowd, it should be James Blake fans.

Once again, a player with no big titles and 2 slam QF's in eight years.

Sounds like someone a bunch of Ivy League tards and whores would get behind.
Personally, I think his principal supporters must be his fellow Ivy League dropouts. :lol:

Kalliopeia
09-08-2006, 02:53 PM
Good of Roger to hit a ball in the J-Block's direction anyway after the match, although a generous gesture is always easier in victory than in defeat.

See now, I took that as a big ol' FU rather than a generous gesture. But maybe I'm just projecting. :D

Monteque
09-08-2006, 02:54 PM
Tennis is not a damn opera where the crowd has to be silent, sport requires a good atmosphere like that!

:yeah:
And other reason is that Roger is playing in America and facing the American, so take that all consequencies. as well, i think the crowd fierceness of 23,000 ppl cant hold on longer that noone Americans (US) since a long time could beat Roger so it's little bit complicated....

Io non ho paura
09-08-2006, 02:57 PM
Italian player would be please with crowd like this :) this is normal for Italian people :yeah: I like very much loud and passionate atmosphere.

Roger please start show some passion :sad:

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 03:02 PM
ROFL

When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside...

Fed will need to come out with some catchphrases as well, just to add to the experience.

Monteque
09-08-2006, 03:05 PM
Italian player would be please with crowd like this :) this is normal for Italian people :yeah: I like very much loud and passionate atmosphere.

Roger please start show some passion :sad:

1. its not about passion, it's about how you feel in the match going.
2. Tennis is not a team sport, all pressures couldn't be shared with others 10 ppl. You need a strong mental in tennis because no mate will give you passing ball.

Io non ho paura
09-08-2006, 03:07 PM
1. its not about passion, it's about how you feel in the match going.
2. Tennis is not a team sport, all pressures couldn't be shared with others 10 ppl. You need a strong mental in tennis because no mate will give you passing ball.

You say this :eek: and Federer meant to be mental strong? you say otherwise by these sentence.

mightymirza
09-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Well to think even after Roger won the match when he was clapping you could distinctly hear a large group of people Booing him(even without a high def tv)..This is just unacceptable..They were making noise anyways on the MPs all the time..But they wernt even gracious enough to the winner..

embellish
09-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Fed will need to come out with some catchphrases as well, just to add to the experience.

"Whatcha gonna do New York when Rogermania runs WIIILLLDDD on you"

or he could dub himself "The Icon, the Showstoppa, the Main Event"

please note I watch too much wrestling :o

Goonergal
09-08-2006, 03:33 PM
Seriously, I got sick of seeing the three dudes in front (especially the blond) after, oh, the first Blake match that was aired.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42062000/jpg/_42062604_blakes_getty_416.jpg

:o

Ditto. He was the most annoying by far.

J-Block :wavey:

Monteque
09-08-2006, 03:41 PM
Ditto. He was the most annoying by far.

J-Block :wavey:
:haha: funny thing
but how do you know? I mean was the angle scene frequently shot him or you saw live...
I just desperately anxious.

njorker
09-08-2006, 03:43 PM
Hmm, I thought the USO crowd was scared of FedEx? I mean, they weren't as loud as this at last year's Final w/ Agassi, where they should have been much louder imo.

tangerine_dream
09-08-2006, 03:56 PM
A lot of you are confusing the J-Block's antics with the crowd as a whole. Now that Blake is gone, you won't have to worry about J-Block ruining matches for you with their deplorable cheers of "James! James! James!" :lol: They certainly didn't bother Roger any.

Oh! the old chestnut blame the French, good to see that is not getting old anytime soon.
It'll never get old, as long as they keep providing ample fodder every year with their disgusting Frenchy-ness, I will be here to remind them of it. :p

Really. I and most who go to Wimbledon are far more civil in our conduct.
Wimbledon has the most boring crowds (except when a Brit is playing well). It's like they're too constipated to get up from their chairs and cheer. :D

tangerine_dream is not representative of all Americans, you know :lol:
:lol: I agree. And MTF isn't representative of real tennis fans, either.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42062000/jpg/_42062604_blakes_getty_416.jpg
Still a sight better than these losers:

http://external.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/especiales/2005/05/roland/album/dia7/img/protestas-efe.jpg

:angel: :lol:

Ryan
09-08-2006, 04:00 PM
The funny thing is J-Block gets criticized for wearing t-shirts and cheering for James, but other sports fans can go with a painted chest, beer gut, boo, curse, get in brawls, and it's just part of the atmosphere. Why do tennis fans seem to think they're above that?

Oh, and lets not pretend that everyone who attends a tennis match is 'high class', or even middle class. Really, there are a lot of low lifes out there who enjoy tennis too. ;)

Black Adam
09-08-2006, 04:01 PM
If Federer meets Roddick in the finals, he'll have an even tougher time because Roddick works the crowd much more than Blake or Agassi.
Roddick respects Federer and normally won't do that (if he makes it safely to the final) However who knows what tricks Jimmy has in his bag, afterall nobody worked the New York crowd better than him ;).

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 04:03 PM
I can't believe people think this was the harshest, crowd. Oh no. That's quite, quite HI-LA-RI-OUS

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 04:09 PM
I personally feel the wimby crowd is best, maybe not very loud or rowdy but to me the most respectful and knowledgble crowd to the players.
but, its different for everyone... some like certain crowds, some dont :angel:


Wimbledon has the most boring crowds (except when a Brit is playing well). It's like they're too constipated to get up from their chairs and cheer. :DAre you forgetting that 2001 final between Goran and Rafter.... must have been the best atmosphere of all time for a match.

Goonergal
09-08-2006, 04:12 PM
Still a sight better than these losers:

http://external.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/especiales/2005/05/roland/album/dia7/img/protestas-efe.jpg

:angel: :lol:
Half of them look drunk :lol: Anyway, I don't think the crowd was no more annoying than usual. They were nowhere near as bad as they were for Agassi's matches. And, I don't think Roger was that bothered.

but how do you know? I mean was the angle scene frequently shot him or you saw live...
I just desperately anxious.
I just watched the re-run on TV. Well, the J-Block was shown everytime James won a point :p but the blond was the one going most over the top with the cheering imo.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:13 PM
"Whatcha gonna do New York when Rogermania runs WIIILLLDDD on you"

or he could dub himself "The Icon, the Showstoppa, the Main Event"

please note I watch too much wrestling :o

Roger is a wrestling fan and maybe he could do the "Peoples elbow" after he wins a match drop a towel or something and bounce off the net like it's the rope.

tangerinus, there are reasons I admire and respect you sweetness :hatoff: :hatoff:

Goonergal
09-08-2006, 04:15 PM
I
Are you forgetting that 2001 final between Goran and Rafter.... must have been the best atmosphere of all time for a match.
Indeed it was. One of my faves ever. But, the atmosphere was only that great because the public was let in first come first served. 90% of the people in that crowd would never have been at the final had it been a Sunday.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:16 PM
I personally feel the wimby crowd is best, maybe not very loud or rowdy but to me the most respectful and knowledgble crowd to the players.
but, its different for everyone... some like certain crowds, some dont :angel:


Are you forgetting that 2001 final between Goran and Rafter.... must have been the best atmosphere of all time for a match.

Most of the crowd for that final were Aussies who took off sick from working in the pubs, a few Croats and Kiwis who wouldn't support an Aussie, that is the reason the crowd was so good, cause there weren't fogeys with dementia and triple barrelled-chested names like Hamilton Foster Branson Howell the 20th.

tangerine_dream
09-08-2006, 04:22 PM
Are you forgetting that 2001 final between Goran and Rafter.... must have been the best atmosphere of all time for a match.
Wasn't that on a Sunday? Every day should be Sunday for Wimbledon, those are the best crowds. People's Sunday :bowdown:

I just watched the re-run on TV. Well, the J-Block was shown everytime James won a point but the blond was the one going most over the top with the cheering imo.
I agree, the blonde guy was extremely obnoxious and if any of Blake's opponents were to aim a ball at his head well who's to blame him? :lol:

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 04:22 PM
like Hamilton Foster Branson Howell the 20th.Is that one Henmans granda's :lol:
Roger is a wrestling fan and maybe he could do the "Peoples elbow" after he wins a match drop a towel or something and bounce off the net like it's the rope.:haha:
and borrow big Ivan's robe for his walk on and walk out.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:26 PM
Wasn't that on a Sunday? Every day should be Sunday for Wimbledon, those are the best crowds. People's Sunday :bowdown:



It was the 3rd Monday, cause of the rain on the final and they had to come back and all the fogeys had to go fox hunting or running around on their country estates looking after the ponies.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:27 PM
Is that one Henmans granda's :lol:
:haha:
and borrow big Ivan's robe for his walk on and walk out.

Yes, what would he have on the back? The big cheese or something.

NyGeL
09-08-2006, 04:29 PM
they are a crowd, not only spectators.

Supporting your player is part of being a crowd... we are not in the '60s anymore.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 04:36 PM
I agree, the blonde guy was extremely obnoxious and if any of Blake's opponents were to aim a ball at his head well who's to blame him? :lol:

I'm kinda obnoxious when I watch matches. I mean, I don't cheer double faults or anything. But I yell a lot and after every point I get more obnoxious. It's really fun in the box seats by the court where everyone there are just rich people who pay to see the American win basically, b/c me and my friend would just go sit there and piss everyone around us off. I just like pissing people off. It's fun to be obnoxious sometimes, as long as you're not cheering double faults/booing/bating the the opponent, right??? And when I did it, it worked, the players I cheeered for kept winning

Pigpen Stinks
09-08-2006, 04:38 PM
Ditto. He was the most annoying by far.

J-Block :wavey:

I can't believe not a soul has recognized that old blond dude. It's Greg Norman. He switched camps after that infamous Hewitt-Blake match a few years back.

Seriously, though, the crowd may have been impolite, but if Roger had anything close to the mentality of half of these posters, he would have gone home with a wet pair of diapers. Instead, he didn't complain, and got the job done as he usually does.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:40 PM
Seriously, though, the crowd may have been impolite, but if Roger had anything close to the mentality of half of these posters, he would have gone home with a wet pair of diapers. Instead, he didn't complain, and got the job done as he usually does.

Makes the win more fun, if they are all against you.

Hendu
09-08-2006, 04:42 PM
I dont think the crowd were that bad. They never loudly booed Federer, except for when he challenged clals which were clearly correct.
The French crowd is much worse, not to mention the Spanish and South American crowds in DC.

The Argentines are the worst, they are very violent. Playing with those savages in the stadium is a life threatening situation. They also tend to attack the families of the players.

If you don't believe me ask Lleyton Hewitt.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:43 PM
The Argentines are the worst, they are very violent. Playing with those savages in the stadium is a life threatening situation. They also tend to attack the families of the players.

If you don't believe me ask Lleyton Hewitt.

Come on didn't you know. Why do you think Argentine beef is so good, it's cause it has that human flavour, it gives it that extra texture. I mean it takes longer to marinate, but it tastes good with chimichurri.

kapranos
09-08-2006, 04:47 PM
George, you're not funny, give it up.

vincayou
09-08-2006, 04:47 PM
I personally feel the wimby crowd is best, maybe not very loud or rowdy but to me the most respectful and knowledgble crowd to the players.
but, its different for everyone... some like certain crowds, some dont :angel:

Or maybe the less interested by the result.


Are you forgetting that 2001 final between Goran and Rafter.... must have been the best atmosphere of all time for a match.
Now that was the best atmosphere I can remember in a tennis match. But it wasn't the usual Wimbledon crowd. And both player had vocal fans. Unfortunately, when you find vocal fans in a tennis match, they are only behind one of the two players.

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 04:48 PM
I'm kinda obnoxious You know yourself well wench.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:49 PM
George, you're not funny, give it up.

As I said stop sucking up to get a higher seeding in the arse clown contest.

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 04:50 PM
George, you're not funny, give it up.Will you stop flirting with him... you are not getting that No1 seeding at that is final.
:lol:

kapranos
09-08-2006, 04:53 PM
As I said stop sucking up to get a higher seeding in the arse clown contest.

I have no chance against you I'm afraid. :sad:

Hendu
09-08-2006, 04:55 PM
George, you're not funny, give it up.

You won't understand the joke unless you know what chimichurri is.

Damn, I'm hungry. :drool:

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:58 PM
kapranos, learn from Tangerine_dream she has good trolling and flaming skills and is funny. You are as funny as someone in a wheelchair with haemerroids.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 04:58 PM
You know yourself well wench.

Shut-up, chimichurriface

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 04:59 PM
I have no chance against you I'm afraid. :sad:

Awww, you are fourth favourite with bookmakers.

kapranos
09-08-2006, 05:00 PM
kapranos, learn from Tangerine_dream she has good trolling and flaming skills and is funny. You are as funny as someone in a wheelchair with haemerroids.

Thing is, I don't try to be funny. :shrug:

And you only call tangerine_dream a troll because, god forbids, she supports and like the United States, a country you despise because you're jealous. :wavey:

Hendu
09-08-2006, 05:03 PM
Thing is, I don't try to be funny. :shrug:

And you only call tangerine_dream a troll because, god forbids, she supports and like the United States, a country you despise because you're jealous. :wavey:

GWH is jealous of the United States, as everybody should be.

God bless America.

kapranos
09-08-2006, 05:06 PM
GWH is jealous of the United States, as everybody should be.

God bless America.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

Great enthousiastic crowds, exciting tennis players (Roddick, Blake, etc), terrific economy, best Slam (US Open), freedom.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Hendu
09-08-2006, 05:09 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Great enthousiastic crowds, exciting tennis players (Roddick, Blake, etc), terrific economy, best Slam (US Open), freedom.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Yes, freedom and Mardy Fish. The best country of all.

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:10 PM
I was at the match, and the "Crowd" was not booing Roger. There were, occasionally, one or two boos that came from the J-Block when Roger was serving........the J-Block also tried to heckle Roger at certain times. It's hard to imagine those people are connected to James. But, I think James was aware of some of their tactics and made an attempt to smooth it over with Roger, which was very nice of him.

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:13 PM
Yes, freedom and Mardy Fish. The best country of all.


As with any courtry, it's residents are very proud of their country. French think France is the best country in the world. Brazilians think Brazil is the best country in the world. American are no different, they think their country is the best in the world...........nothing's wrong with that:shrug:

Corey Feldman
09-08-2006, 05:13 PM
Shut-up, chimichurriface:kiss:

scoobs
09-08-2006, 05:15 PM
I love the United States - a beautiful country with so many contrasting regions, a warm, generous and giving people on the whole, who believe in the merits of hard work and self-reliance. I have some very good friends in America.

I don't think much of its political system/leaders but that's my only complaint.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 05:16 PM
:kiss:

:p

Hendu
09-08-2006, 05:17 PM
As with any courtry, it's residents are very proud of their country. French think France is the best country in the world. Brazilians think Brazil is the best country in the world. American are no different, they think their country is the best in the world...........nothing's wrong with that:shrug:

Of course.

why? did you think I was being sarcastic?

:angel:

tennisphan
09-08-2006, 05:20 PM
American are no different, they think their country is the best in the world...........nothing's wrong with that:shrug:

ah, no.

Many Americans are in fact embarrassed to be Americans, esp if you start talking politics.

While I am very fortunate to live in the US compared to a lot of other places in the world, I think America is FAR from the "Best" country... whatever criteria it takes to make that claim.....

Xristos
09-08-2006, 05:23 PM
There have been worse crowds at the French and Australian. If a British player comes close at Wimbledon even the English audience would be rooting for him vociferously. So Blake is only being spoken of because it is PC? In other words because he is black?Blake was pretty much written off 2 years ago. No one not even the McEnroes held out much hope. He put in the work and won titles and matches that he would have lost previously. No one gave him the titles or lost matches because he is black or because he is an American. That is why he is in the media and not because it is PC. I suppose according to the small cadre on this board (including the so-called Americans with the flags) Americans have no right to cheer and to try to pull another American through a tough match. Every other country has that right but not Americans.

So be happy that your European guy won but neither Blake nor the American crowd deserve your derision nor censure.

By the way, in the scheme of things, over 400,000 people are attending these matches. Probably similar numbers for the other grand slams. You have about 40,000 registered members and probably 1000 who post at any given time and maybe 50-100 who post on a regular basis, so you are deluding yourselves into thinking most tennis fans see these players, particularly the American ones in the same manner as you.

Blake acquitted himself well. The only thing he did wrong was to try to placate people like ones on this board. There was nothing to apologize for. He obviously still has no clue that people who hate you for what you are do not give a damn how apologetic or humble you can be. People who tend to hate are going to hate you anyway no matter what you say or do so you may as well not even try to placate them. Hold your head up and keep your dignity is the better play, to hell with all the rest.No crowds are this disrespectful in Australia. None. Ever.

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:26 PM
ah, no.

Many Americans are in fact embarrassed to be Americans, esp if you start talking politics.

While I am very fortunate to live in the US compared to a lot of other places in the world, I think America is FAR from the "Best" country... whatever criteria it takes to make that claim.....

I've very proud to be an American. I don't think there is any "perfect" country in the world. Everytime, Bush gives one of his state addresses, I consider getting another home in another country. But, I have found that when I visit other countries.......at the end of the day, there is no place like home.

I know America isn't the best country in the world. I don't think any country is perfect, but I've very proud to be an American. Bush will be gone in 2 years.

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:29 PM
No crowds are this disrespectful in Australia. None. Ever.


The crowd wasn't disrespectful.........it was the J-Block. James' fans. In fact, the J-Block even irritated those sitting in my section. Many people were wondering if the USTA couldn't do something about them, because, they were out of control...........and I attended Agassi matches, and it was in no way like this.

dkw
09-08-2006, 05:32 PM
Let just say the US Open is not Wimbledon.

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:35 PM
Let just say the US Open is not Wimbledon.


I think it comes down to personal taste. I've been to Wimbledon, and, I'll take the US Open, anyday, over Wimbledon.

I enjoyed my experience at Wimbledon, but I missed the electric feeling that I get at the US Open. I have a friend who describes Wimbledon as the most important GS, and the most sterile GS. He has been to all 4.

Pigpen Stinks
09-08-2006, 05:38 PM
Is there a waiting list that I can sign on to become a member of the J-Block?

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 05:42 PM
Is there a waiting list that I can sign on to become a member of the J-Block?People seem to forget that the J-Block are actually his personal friends from high school and whatnot. They're not some random drunkards just there to cause a stir, they actually know James.

I wish I had friends that supported me like that but whatever :)

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 05:44 PM
It is ok in a few days Roger will have as many USOs has Andre and Andy combined. :)
When Andy wins he'll have won as many US Open's as Federer :p

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 05:46 PM
FlashDeb, that's what makes it worse.

Because if he told those arseclowns (thank you) to shut the f--k up, then they wouldn't be embarassing him, more than he does himself. Any player could pay for a group of people to come and act like jerk-offs at their matches, but only Blake seems to be doing it.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 05:47 PM
FlashDeb, that's what makes it worse.

Because if he told those arseclowns (thank you) to shut the f--k up, then they wouldn't be embarassing him, more than he does himself. Any player could pay for a group of people to come and act like jerk-offs at their matches, but only Blake seems to be doing it.That's your opinion that it's embarrassing. :shrug:

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 05:48 PM
I agree, the French especially are the worst. I'll never forget them booing poor Rafael Nadal for no reason for ten minutes (not an exaggeration). Plus they love to try to mess up the rhythm of matches and influence its outcome (RG 2004 is a great example). They even boo injured players when they have to retire from a match! Tennis-wise, you can't get any more ignorant and low class than that.

The Aussies are very similar to USO crowds: loud/partying/enthusiastic/flashy. Great crowds. I'm always entertained by the Aussies and NYers. :cool: Both groups cheer for their home players and they cheer for others too. I haven't witnessed any shockingly bad behavior from them in years.

Interesting how the non-Americans here excuse Baghdatis' hooligan fan group at AO (in fact, they embraced them as "terrific fans!" and quickly jumped on Baggy's bandwagon) but are very harsh towards the J-Block and even hold Blake personally accountable for this group's behavior. :retard: MTF has very odd double standards around here, esp. when it comes to the Americans. It's part of the MTF Rules, I think.
Spot on :hatoff:

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 05:48 PM
You think so? I thought nearly ever post in a thread like this was an opinion and it's unneccesary to point that out.

Pigpen Stinks
09-08-2006, 05:49 PM
People seem to forget that the J-Block are actually his personal friends from high school and whatnot. They're not some random drunkards just there to cause a stir, they actually know James.

I wish I had friends that supported me like that but whatever :)

But Deb, couldn't they use a random drunkard to increase their diversity?

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:51 PM
That's your opinion that it's embarrassing. :shrug:

Hi Deb, How are you??

I thought that Blake was slightly embarrassed by some of their antics.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 05:52 PM
You think so? I thought nearly ever post in a thread like this was an opinion and it's unneccesary to point that out.Well you seem to be to stating as fact that James eggs them on or somehow has some duty to do something about them. I disagree. I think they're his friends and they want to come out to support a buddy and they do it on their own accord.


LOL Pigpen, maybe :lol:

I'm good Sheryl thanks and you? :) Maybe he is, but I'd still love to have friends that supported me so passionately :shrug:

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 05:53 PM
That's the whole point.

He apologizes all the time for them after a match, but since they are his friends, obviously he could just tell them to stop acting like jerk-offs and they would.

Yet he apologizes after a match because he's such a caring, nice and genuine person. :angel:

scoobs
09-08-2006, 05:53 PM
I think it comes down to personal taste. I've been to Wimbledon, and, I'll take the US Open, anyday, over Wimbledon.

I enjoyed my experience at Wimbledon, but I missed the electric feeling that I get at the US Open. I have a friend who describes Wimbledon as the most important GS, and the most sterile GS. He has been to all 4.

I like the contrasts between the four.

If Wimbledon is the cathedral of tennis, the US Open is the rock concert of tennis, the French Open is the art gallery of tennis and the Australian Open is tennis's day at the beach.

dkw
09-08-2006, 05:53 PM
I think it comes down to personal taste. I've been to Wimbledon, and, I'll take the US Open, anyday, over Wimbledon.

I enjoyed my experience at Wimbledon, but I missed the electric feeling that I get at the US Open. I have a friend who describes Wimbledon as the most important GS, and the most sterile GS. He has been to all 4.
Yeah I'd never fit in at Wimbledon... becasue I'm the typical loud, drunk, rowdy fan. I just yell and scream for no reason.

Besides players know what they are getting into when they come to New York- people walking around in between points; talking on their cell phones; babies crying... And when they're playing an Amercian they know it's going to be a Davis Cup atmosphere.

Wojtek
09-08-2006, 05:54 PM
There have been worse crowds at the French and Australian.

in australia?????? Did you drink something

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 05:54 PM
That's the whole point.

He apologizes all the time for them after a match, but since they are his friends, obviously he could just tell them to stop acting like jerk-offs and they would.

Yet he apologizes after a match because he's such a caring, nice and genuine person. :angel:You've never told people to stop doing something that they then proceeded to do anyway when they got drunk??????

Scoobs, fantastic analogy :D

mangoes
09-08-2006, 05:54 PM
I like the contrasts between the four.

If Wimbledon is the cathedral of tennis, the US Open is the rock concert of tennis, the French Open is the art gallery of tennis and the Australian Open is tennis's day at the beach.


This made me smile. Very nice.........and so true:lol:

Wojtek
09-08-2006, 05:55 PM
And also, I have seen Roddick put his hands up during matches when the crowd was getting out of hand. I don't know if he has ever done it at the US....but he has definitely asked the crowd, with certain gestures, to shut up during points....James could have done something like that.

He was acting like this against Alex Corretja at US Open.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 05:56 PM
FlashDeb, if I had a group of my friends traveling around every year and embarassing me in front of the public and I told them to stop it and they didn't, then I sure as hell would not be associating with them, much less buying them tickets and gesturing towards them during matches.

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 05:56 PM
That's the whole point.

He apologizes all the time for them after a match, but since they are his friends, obviously he could just tell them to stop acting like jerk-offs and they would.

Yet he apologizes after a match because he's such a caring, nice and genuine person. :angel:
Why would he want them to stop? It's some of the best support I've ever seen a player get. It creates an amazing atmosphere. Yes, maybe it's not 100% right some of their behaviour but believe me, if you were in his position you wouldn't be telling them to shutup. If that match was played anywhere other than Flushing Meadows Blake was going down big time in that 3rd set.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 05:58 PM
FlashDeb, if I had a group of my friends traveling around every year and embarassing me in front of the public and I told them to stop it and they didn't, then I sure as hell would not be associating with them, much less buying them tickets and gesturing towards them during matches.You'd stop associating with your closest friends who got you through the roughest times in your life and have stuck by you though everything just b/c they get a little rowdy a few times a year? Well, OK then. :)

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 05:59 PM
Adee, bs.

I would never let myself be humiliated like that by a bunch of jerk-offs I hung out with in high school.

Like I said, every player could buy tickets and have a group of people do that.

It doesn't create an amazing atmosphere, it's a bunch of high school friends of an unaccomplished tennis player making themselves, the player and the country look bad.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 06:00 PM
It doesn't create an amazing atmosphere, it's a bunch of high school friends of an unaccomplished tennis player making themselves, the player and the country look bad.Anyone who's ignorant enough to associate one group of fans' actions with an entire country is even more ignorant than said fans, IMO.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-08-2006, 06:00 PM
FlashDeb if that's supposed to be witty, I feel very sorry for you.

Why would he apologizing if he wasn't embarassed unless he really wasn't and he's just pushing his "nice guy" bs on people so they can say he was classy instead of actually doing something about those pricks.

That's the whole point.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 06:02 PM
FlashDeb if that's supposed to be witty, I feel very sorry for you.

Why would he apologizing if he wasn't embarassed unless he really wasn't and he's just pushing his "nice guy" bs on people so they can say he was classy instead of actually doing something about those pricks.

That's the whole point.It wasn't supposed to be witty. If you would so quickly turn your back on your closest friends who have been there for you just because they go overboard a little too often, then I feel very sorry for you.

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 06:02 PM
Adee, bs.

I would never let myself be humiliated like that by a bunch of jerk-offs I hung out with in high school.

Like I said, every player could buy tickets and have a group of people do that.

It doesn't create an amazing atmosphere, it's a bunch of high school friends of an unaccomplished tennis player making themselves, the player and the country look bad.
I really don't see them humilating him, I see it as them passionately cheering on their friend :shrug:

I'd much rather watch a match with an atmosphere like that (right or wrong) than watch a match with the "atmosphere" that a match like Davydenko vs Haas had, where very little people cared who won. The crowd behaved well and applauded good shots, but for me I'd rather the electric atmosphere every time.

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 06:04 PM
Can I just ask, what exactly was it that Blake said? People are saying he apologised for the crowd's behaviour, what were his exact words?

dkw
09-08-2006, 06:08 PM
Look it cost $60 for the worst seats in Ashe, beers go for $9, a burger, fries and a coke is like $16.50. If fans are spending this type of money, every year, we get to act however we want.

And so what if the J-Block was rowdy. If they weren't there Blake probably would have lost 6/7 0/6 1/6 and nobody would have gotten thier money's worth.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 06:12 PM
Can I just ask, what exactly was it that Blake said? People are saying he apologised for the crowd's behaviour, what were his exact words?All I remember him saying last night was something about how Roger wasn't just playing him (James) but was also playing against the crowd. I don't remember him saying anything about actually apologizing for the behavior of that group at all.

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 06:14 PM
All I remember him saying last night was something about how Roger wasn't just playing him (James) but was also playing against the crowd. I don't remember him saying anything about actually apologlozing for the behavior of that group at all.
That's what I thought, I wouldn't exactly qualify that as an apology. He has no real reason to apologise either.

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 06:17 PM
That's what I thought, I wouldn't exactly qualify that as an apology. He has no real reason to apologise either.me neither. But whatever :)

OMG look how I spelled apologizing! :haha: :rolls: :banghead: :smash:

Pigpen Stinks
09-08-2006, 06:20 PM
You'd think people would learn how to spell before posting there thoughts.

hitchhiker
09-08-2006, 06:21 PM
some people wont be happy until the tennis crowd is as enthusiastic as a block buster chess match crowd

wally1
09-08-2006, 06:22 PM
I've been to 3 of the 4 GS's (not US) and thought in general the difference in crowd behaviour was marginal to be honest. The crowd last night seemed OK to me, though that's about as raucous as I'd like to see tennis go. One reason I like this sport is that spectators appreciate good play from both players. It's all relative though of course - having attended football matches in the UK where tens of thousands scream obscenities at the opposition and each other throughout the game, the US Open crowd has a long way to go! It's surprising how quickly standards can slip though - I wouldn't go to an international cricket match in the UK any more, as by the afternoon (after a good few hours drinking) the crowd are pretty obnoxious (chanting abuse etc), and only a few years ago cricket crowds were even more "gentlemanly" than tennis...

Deboogle!.
09-08-2006, 06:22 PM
You'd think people would learn how to spell before posting there thoughts.That'd be nice :p of course, even the best spellers among us make typos sometimes ;)

dkw
09-08-2006, 06:25 PM
OMG look how I spelled apologizing! :haha: :rolls: :banghead: :smash:
Don't worry we won't hold it against you or bring it up the next time you start ranting in your signature about the misuse of apostrophes and the spelling of definitely :D

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 06:28 PM
me neither. But whatever :)

OMG look how I spelled apologizing! :haha: :rolls: :banghead: :smash:
How did you spell it? :scratch:

EDIT: Oh I just saw :haha: :rolls: :haha:

SloKid
09-08-2006, 06:28 PM
You'd think people would learn how to spell before posting there thoughts.
lolz
Pot. Kettle. Black. etc. :)

adee-gee
09-08-2006, 06:29 PM
That'd be nice :p of course, even the best spellers among us make typos sometimes ;)
I don't think his was a typo :o

nctennisfan
09-08-2006, 06:37 PM
i don't approve of bad sportsmanship on the part of crowds. i remember reading about some people in italian open crowds behaving like scumbags, as well as he home crowds in davis cup in some countries. this is not the first time this has happened.

Raquel
09-08-2006, 06:38 PM
I didn't see this match sadly, but I saw the last game on YouTube and the crowd were going pretty wild every time Roger hit a first serve fault, never mind lose the point. If anything, rather than encourage Blake, that kind of reaction would likely just make Roger even more determined to win.

Kalliopeia
09-08-2006, 06:41 PM
Yes, maybe it's not 100% right some of their behaviour but believe me, if you were in his position you wouldn't be telling them to shutup.

I wouldn't be telling them to shut up completely but I'd tell them to show some respect for my opponents instead of booing and heckling and disrupting.

tennisphan
09-08-2006, 07:07 PM
I've been to 3 of the 4 GS's (not US) and thought in general the difference in crowd behaviour was marginal to be honest. The crowd last night seemed OK to me, though that's about as raucous as I'd like to see tennis go. One reason I like this sport is that spectators appreciate good play from both players. It's all relative though of course - having attended football matches in the UK where tens of thousands scream obscenities at the opposition and each other throughout the game, the US Open crowd has a long way to go! It's surprising how quickly standards can slip though - I wouldn't go to an international cricket match in the UK any more, as by the afternoon (after a good few hours drinking) the crowd are pretty obnoxious (chanting abuse etc), and only a few years ago cricket crowds were even more "gentlemanly" than tennis...

AMEN!







....and also for the record, James buys the suite for the "official" J-Block, but anyone can buy the shirt from nike (they sold it AT the open last year) and be park of the J-Block