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Youzhny def Nadal 6:3 5:7 7:6 6:1

Adler
09-07-2006, 12:03 AM
that's it. wonderful performance by the Russian

he showed how to play against Rafa. Fast, flat shots, forcing him to run from corner to corner. it's easy to defend against such thing on clay, but on decoturf not always give a profit. Misha played a match of his life, he played like a Top 5 player. Better than Ivan and Fat Dave together

Now, can Youzhny defeat Roddick/Hewitt?

RickDaStick
09-07-2006, 12:03 AM
and the biggest clown of them all goes down

TheBoiledEgg
09-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Misha :D :)
simply stunning performance :bowdown: :)

{Annie}
09-07-2006, 12:05 AM
This was one of the most amazing matches of this tournament...

Misha my boy...you were amazing!!!!!!!!!

:worship: :worship:

slipmaskin
09-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Incredibly gutsy performance, yeah. Proves that his hammering of Robredo was no flash in the pan.

knight_ley
09-07-2006, 12:06 AM
I'm a Nadal fan, but that performance by Youzhny had me :worship:.
Amazing job by him!!!! :yeah:
( And his shoes were :hearts: )

lilimi80
09-07-2006, 12:06 AM
the match was great, misha's shots were wonderful!he saved my day! i was desperate after the Safin berezina but with mikhail, there is always hope!!!!!!congrats!

hablovah19
09-07-2006, 12:06 AM
what an amazing win by Youzhny :bowdown:

cobalt60
09-07-2006, 12:07 AM
I think we are going to have to merge a number of threads :lol:
Caught the last 2 sets on tv and congrats to Misha!! I have never seen him play before but I hope to catch him again. I love it when men play aggressive;)
This was real excitement.:yeah: And oh no the Russians are playing very well now just in time for Davis Cup.

marcelwks
09-07-2006, 12:08 AM
Yes finally great form by Youzhny . He is top10 material . Always was . Hope this is new era for him . Biggest win since 2002 Davis Cup final match against Mathieu .

cobalt60
09-07-2006, 12:08 AM
that's it. wonderful performance by the Russian

he showed how to play against Rafa. Fast, flat shots, forcing him to run from corner to corner. it's easy to defend against such thing on clay, but on decoturf not always give a profit. Misha played a match of his life, he played like a Top 5 player. Better than Ivan and Fat Dave together

Now, can Youzhny defeat Roddick/Hewitt?
I noted that JMac also stated Misha played to Nadal's strength and beat him at it :worship:

The Pro
09-07-2006, 12:09 AM
You know, I don't mind so much when Rafa loses to nice guys like Blake or Federer.

But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping, and what was with the salute (err, well done comraad! :p )? Then Rafa shakes his hand and says something and Mikhail just turns away as if to say 'whatever, loser'.

Arse. Yes I'm annoyed Rafa lost. :mad:

buddyholly
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
Northern Ireland 3 - Spain 2, EURO2008 qualifier.

That is the real defeat for Spain today.

R.Federer
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
This gives every bit of motivation to Lleyton and andy
They probably see a win tonight as a straight ticket to the final (although I don't think it will be that simple if Misha keeps up this form)

tripb19
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
I cannot believe it.

There goes my vCash. Who woulda thunk it?

When was the last time Youzhny did anything at a Slam?

Clara Bow
09-07-2006, 12:10 AM
that's it. wonderful performance by the Russian

he showed how to play against Rafa. Fast, flat shots, forcing him to run from corner to corner. it's easy to defend against such thing on clay, but on decoturf not always give a profit. Misha played a match of his life, he played like a Top 5 player. Better than Ivan and Fat Dave together

Now, can Youzhny defeat Roddick/Hewitt?

Misha played lights out tennis. And I hope instead of all of the inevitable "Rafa sux" posts there will be plenty realizing who freaking well Misha played.

I do think he could have a chance against R/H if he plays like this.

And Misha has to play for Russia if they ever play Spain in DC. :lol:

rofe
09-07-2006, 12:11 AM
I have to watch this match. I still can't believe Nadal lost, that too with a breadstick thrown in.

Adler
09-07-2006, 12:11 AM
I noted that JMac also stated Misha played to Nadal's strength and beat him at it :worship:
just like Berdych and Blake. Conclusion?

Jagermeister
09-07-2006, 12:11 AM
Actually I forgot if it was Mary Carillo who often says that, but it's an old coaching adage: If you break down somebody's strength, then what do they have left?

I'm sad that Rafa lost but I'm so happy for Misha. It's nice to see him playing so well after a couple of forgettable seasons. All those forehands were amazing. Rafa was just cheating all the time to run around and hit the forehand and never adjusted.

Davai Misha!

Better luck next year Rafa, at least you improved on your previous result.

Deivid23
09-07-2006, 12:11 AM
This was not a surprise at all, Misha played a fantastic match and was too good for Rafa.

Misha :hatoff:

marcelwks
09-07-2006, 12:12 AM
[QUOTE=The Pro]

But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping, and what was with the salute (err, well done comraad! :p )?QUOTE]

he always salutin after winning . And Nadal is the fist pumping master .

tripb19
09-07-2006, 12:12 AM
I have to watch this match. I still can't believe Nadal lost, that too with a breadstick thrown in.
+1

I have to see it. :eek:

stebs
09-07-2006, 12:12 AM
But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping
All this stuff is pretty much Rafa's trademark. I find it hard to believe any Rafa supporter can pick a quarrel with fist pumps by an opponent.

buddyholly
09-07-2006, 12:13 AM
a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping

Ah, that's just Rafa's way.

Fergie
09-07-2006, 12:13 AM
Amazing match Misha :worship: :worship: :worship:

David Kenzie
09-07-2006, 12:13 AM
Youzhny, what a performance ! Must have hit about 50 winners ... amazing consistency by Misha while going for extremely difficult shots.
And he saved 3 set points in a row in the 4th while serving at 4-5 !!!

stebs
09-07-2006, 12:13 AM
Misha played a fantastic match and was too good for Rafa.

Misha :hatoff:

:worship: Great attitude for a Rafa fan to have.

TheBoiledEgg
09-07-2006, 12:13 AM
You know, I don't mind so much when Rafa loses to nice guys like Blake or Federer.

But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping, and what was with the salute (err, well done comraad! :p )? Then Rafa shakes his hand and says something and Mikhail just turns away as if to say 'whatever, loser'.

Arse. Yes I'm annoyed Rafa lost. :mad:

so says a Piggy fan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

he does the salute to his late father who died a few yrs back.

Adler
09-07-2006, 12:14 AM
Youzhny, what a performance ! Must have hit about 50 winners
Actually, scoreboard says it's 49, so your mistake wasn't that big ;)

nisabula
09-07-2006, 12:14 AM
You know, I don't mind so much when Rafa loses to nice guys like Blake or Federer.

But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping, and what was with the salute (err, well done comraad! :p )? Then Rafa shakes his hand and says something and Mikhail just turns away as if to say 'whatever, loser'.

Arse. Yes I'm annoyed Rafa lost. :mad:

A Nadal fan complaining about fist pumping?!! :haha:

Jagermeister
09-07-2006, 12:14 AM
I cannot believe it.

There goes my vCash. Who woulda thunk it?

When was the last time Youzhny did anything at a Slam?

He'd never been to the QF of a Slam. Now he's in the semis! Strange.

stebs
09-07-2006, 12:14 AM
Must have hit about 50 winners
49 actually. :p

Rafa with 2/11 on BP's. :o

scarecrows
09-07-2006, 12:16 AM
You know, I don't mind so much when Rafa loses to nice guys like Blake or Federer.

But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping, and what was with the salute (err, well done comraad! :p )? Then Rafa shakes his hand and says something and Mikhail just turns away as if to say 'whatever, loser'.

Arse. Yes I'm annoyed Rafa lost. :mad:


lol

Timariot
09-07-2006, 12:16 AM
Blah. This day was a disaster for men's draw - only players who might have beat Federer went out. I heard they're having award ceremony tomorrow already...

Jagermeister
09-07-2006, 12:17 AM
I recall Youzhny and Roddick had an awesome match at the Aussie Open back in...2003? Roddick came back from 2 sets down. I believe that was the same Aussie Open where Roddick/El Aynaoui went 19-17 in the 5th. Anyway...been a long time coming for Misha.

I'm just mad it came at the expense of Rafa.

How quirky is Misha's backhand?

Dexter_1986
09-07-2006, 12:18 AM
What a fabulous performance Michaił! :bigclap: Congrats on making first SF of a GS! :worship:
Totally won me over! Good luck vs Andy/Lleyton! :rocker2:

Would be great to see him in the final vs Roger! :D

Dawaj Misza!!! :yeah:

kindablue
09-07-2006, 12:18 AM
Misha :worship: :rocker: :rocker2:
Where is the piggy roasting thread :lol:

Adler
09-07-2006, 12:19 AM
Blah. This day was a disaster for men's draw - only players who might have beat Federer went out. I heard they're having award ceremony tomorrow already...
c'mon man. So far in this torunament Federer played against some not well players. Now he'll be facing Blake who destroyed Berdych. This can be a shock. I don't think he'll lose, but he may drop a set

mallorn
09-07-2006, 12:19 AM
Lol, Clara! ;)

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=4091255&postcount=62

he does the salute to his late father who died a few yrs back.
I was actually wondering about the salute, why does he do it like that?

(I have very bad connotatations.)

Neely
09-07-2006, 12:19 AM
I usually can't stand Youzhny, but today I have to say he was really great, did not fade away in important situations, his footwork and speed was incredible and he decided the small important situations for him which normally make Nadal win the match if he is not playing well. And Youzhny was a critical match-up for Nadal already before the match. Props to him!

Nadal had an okay tournament and broke new ground at the US Open. But he did not have the best form in the previous matches in this tournament and today he met somebody who was playing very well. See you next tournament, Rafa!

vincayou
09-07-2006, 12:21 AM
Well done Misha. He had a bit dissapeared since australian open 2005. That was a gutsy performance. If he keeps playing like that, he will find back his place in top15 in no time.

Nadal has improved his best performance at USO. His day might come, he's still only 20 after all. His season on hardcourt has been dissapointing given the high standards he had put last year.

Jagermeister
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
let's not forget that sitter forehand that Nadal had with youzhny serving to stay in the 3rd set. That probably was the match right there.

scoobs
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
Gutted about this result :(

But Youzhny played the better hardcourt tennis - no question about it.

Rafa has retreated back into the backcourt wastelands since Wimbledon and it's costing him dearly, the loopy topspin is landing too short and getting picked off - and more and more players are getting clued up on it.

rofe
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
This has to be one of Misha's biggest wins so if he played like people are describing, I wonder if he can keep it up or will he have the inevitable letdown? One thing that bodes well for him is the two day rest. He will have plenty of time to reflect on what he did today.

bandabou
09-07-2006, 12:25 AM
Nadal just got overpowered today...blown off the court. The key to beat Nadal is just hammer him down, no cute shots...like Roger likes to use sometimes..

DDrago2
09-07-2006, 12:26 AM
With this draw Nadal must go to semifinal, I would have liked him to face a good hardhitter like Gonzalez, Roddick, Berdych or Blake before semis, but that was not meant to happen. Fate smiled to Nadal and Nadal must pay back getting to semifinal and another final against Fed or maybe Nalbandian. I will be very disappointed if there is not another Fed-Nadal final in USOPEN.

Fate might stop smiling to Nadal in future since he haven't payed back.

And I am for a change happy for the moonballer's exit - now we can concentrate on real contedners for the title. Federer-Nadal finals? Come on. Nadal is not Federer's main rival, apart from clay.

daze11
09-07-2006, 12:28 AM
Fairly meaningless statement, but I saw Youzhny on the grounds at the USO on the 3rd day of the Open, and no one was bothering him or paying him any mind, and he was the only player I saw in the middle of the day walking around with everyone else. And i kind of thought, somethings going to happen for him...I'm glad he had such a nice breakthrough win.

Johnny Groove
09-07-2006, 12:28 AM
Fate might stop smiling to Nadal in future since he haven't payed back.

And I am for a change happy for the moonballer's exit - now we can concentrate on real contedners for the title. Federer-Nadal finals? Come on. Nadal is not Federer's main rival, apart from clay.

yeah, because Rafa didnt beat him in Dubai, and he didnt take a set off him at Wimbledon. O wait, maybe he did, but Wimbly and Dubai were both clay courts painted over as hard courts :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Clara Bow
09-07-2006, 12:30 AM
Rafa has retreated back into the backcourt wastelands since Wimbledon and it's costing him dearly, the loopy topspin is landing too short and getting picked off - and more and more players are getting clued up on it.

I know- he has been playing stupid shortballs. He was able to stop doing that for Wimbledon, why did he go back to it here.

I have to say, it was funny seeing Nadal smiling at his troubles, Uncle Toni rolling his eyes at Nadal's play and applauding Misha's play. Back to the drawing board fellows!

And again, congrats to Misah- he deserved this 100%.

Rogiman
09-07-2006, 12:34 AM
Great day for men's tennis fans :D

SwissMister1
09-07-2006, 12:40 AM
Great job! I really hope I can see this match, he's been terrific here. I actually never noticed the salute until I saw him live, its a nice gesture I think

Merton
09-07-2006, 12:40 AM
Congrats to Youzhny, he was too good today.

NATAS81
09-07-2006, 12:41 AM
BEAT. DOWN.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g245/GiggyFly81/YouzhnyNadal/YouzhnyDefNadal004.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSN8EuPFt1U

Jim Courier: (Camera on Nadal) "That's a beat down smile."

The Russian Revolution is underway as Youzhny hit frozen rope winners time after time against the junkballing, time wasting Nadal. On the final points, Nadal would hit WTA shots but to no avail.

Нанана.

Давай Михаил.

princediablo
09-07-2006, 12:42 AM
Hehehe. I laugh whenever Nadal loses. Recently, I have been doing a lot of laughing.

Junes
09-07-2006, 12:42 AM
happy day for me :lol: :lol:

Adler
09-07-2006, 12:43 AM
Damn, Marat should've won today. Imagine that: 2 Russians in semis! The best result of sb from Russia since Josif Stalin at Yalta :D

adee-gee
09-07-2006, 12:43 AM
What can I say?

Fucking awful from Rafa. That 4th set is probably the worst set I've ever seen him play. Totally lost confidence in his groundstrokes, could barely hit his forehand in court and when he did it was a struggle to get it past the service box.

Went back to his tactics of plaiyng 6 feet behind the baseline. Youzhny totally dominated the rallies and was able to hit winners. Credit to Youzhny he took advantage of the way Rafa was playing and 100% deserved to win, he was so much smarter out there.

Props to Youzhny, back to the drawing board for Rafa. I can't understand why he reverted to the negative tactics after doing as well as he did at Wimbledon. He's got to get more aggressive if things aren't working, he's just being dominated far too often at the moment.

Gutted. Seriously gutted.

+alonso
09-07-2006, 12:44 AM
I'm really glad to see that Nico almost beat Youzhny!

congrats youzhny ;)

NYCtennisfan
09-07-2006, 12:48 AM
When Misha is on, he can really play some beautiful hc tennis.

All_Slam_Andre
09-07-2006, 12:48 AM
I'm sorry for all of you Rafa fans out there. And credit to you for being gracious. This was a poor performance from Rafa today. He wasn't able to get a foothold on the rallies, and a lot of his shots were going too long. He was far too passive for my liking. Well done to Youzhny. He was excellent today.

MisterQ
09-07-2006, 12:50 AM
Youzhny was remarkable. Wow. He certainly earned this win. :clap2:

I do believe that Nadal can play better than that. Hopefully he'll shrug this off and learn some lessons from it.

scoobs
09-07-2006, 12:51 AM
What can I say?

Fucking awful from Rafa. That 4th set is probably the worst set I've ever seen him play. Totally lost confidence in his groundstrokes, could barely hit his forehand in court and when he did it was a struggle to get it past the service box.

Went back to his tactics of plaiyng 6 feet behind the baseline. Youzhny totally dominated the rallies and was able to hit winners. Credit to Youzhny he took advantage of the way Rafa was playing and 100% deserved to win, he was so much smarter out there.

Props to Youzhny, back to the drawing board for Rafa. I can't understand why he reverted to the negative tactics after doing as well as he did at Wimbledon. He's got to get more aggressive if things aren't working, he's just being dominated far too often at the moment.

Gutted. Seriously gutted.

Spot on - agree 100% with this

mallorn
09-07-2006, 12:54 AM
he does the salute to his late father who died a few yrs back.
I was actually wondering about the salute, why does he do it like that?

(I have very bad connotatations.)
Does anyone know?

Neely
09-07-2006, 12:57 AM
One important thing is that he needs to hit deeper with his forehand topspin especially. Most balls just bounce around the service line and an attacking player with confidence is punishing them. He still can dig out a lot, but against the best and in-form players, it's not enough.

But I think he has plenty of time to improve and already developed extremely well and has room left to become even better. For example Federer at this age was by far not as good as Nadal is already and did not reach a hardcourt Slam quarterfinal for two or three more years.

NYCtennisfan
09-07-2006, 12:57 AM
People are complaining about Misha's "antics"? The guy was winning the match of his life to get to the SF of the USO.

Nadal played decently againt Massu and Haas during the summer and that was about it. He didn't play all that well against Flip, Novak, Horna, and again today against Misha. There's no doubt that Nadal can play better than that on HC, but he for some reason lost confidence in that FH after Wimby and hasn't gotten it back yet.

forbiddenfruit
09-07-2006, 12:57 AM
Youzhny is divine. His face, his body, his huge bulging legs :eek:

So hot it hurts. :sobbing: What do we know about him - his personal life, is he a good boy?

Oh and BTW he played well. :lol: A huge congrats to him on making his first slam semi-final. If her plays like her did today, he could make the final. But he is soooo hot. *faints*

Nadal.. well you had your chances, but you're only 20. Many more chances to come. Keep representing the bootyful!

forbiddenfruit
09-07-2006, 12:59 AM
I'm also curios about his salute. He also looks a little bit like a skin-head (well not in recent days - he probably forgot his shaver). But seriously... it seems so military... maybe very right wing. That would be a shame... he is just so gorgeous :p

buddyholly
09-07-2006, 01:01 AM
I love it when men play aggressive

I'll bet you do!

mallorn
09-07-2006, 01:06 AM
I'm also curios about his salute. He also looks a little bit like a skin-head (well not in recent days - he probably forgot his shaver). But seriously... it seems so military... maybe very right wing. That would be a shame... he is just so gorgeous :p
Exactly why I have bad connotations. Was his father in the military? :shrug:

LLeytonRules
09-07-2006, 01:13 AM
Seriously, i dont know if Nadal can really improve, his grip is built for Clay.He had an open draw and he lost to the better man.Also people talk about Nadal being like this at an early age, who knows what might happen to him in like 4 years from now, he can burn out.I think Nadal needs to change his grip!!!!!

cobalt60
09-07-2006, 01:25 AM
I'll bet you do!
Finally someone caught my remark :lol: Figures it would be you BH ;)

I liked the salute to the crowd whomever it was in honor of originally. And Mallorn what exactly to you want to know about the salute? I am ex-Navy and that is what we would call a strong salute-it snapped.

cobalt60
09-07-2006, 01:26 AM
Exactly why I have bad connotations. Was his father in the military? :shrug:
Ehem- you don't have to be "right wing" to be in the military :shrug:

Yappa
09-07-2006, 01:27 AM
Youzhny currently in the press conference:

"This was the best match of my career."

"If you want to know about the tactic I used in this match, then watch it again. ;)"

Also talking about DC 4 years ago and how he couldnt really be happy due to his fathers death 3 months before that.

Of course they also asked him again about his salute. He does it because he thinks its typical russian.

He is happy that many ppl started to cheer for him and shouted "Misha, Misha".

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-07-2006, 01:27 AM
Misha I love you! :rocker2::hearts::kiss:

TheBoiledEgg
09-07-2006, 01:27 AM
Exactly why I have bad connotations. Was his father in the military? :shrug:

yes he was :wavey:

mallorn
09-07-2006, 01:31 AM
Ehem- you don't have to be "right wing" to be in the military :shrug:
Oops, misunderstanding. I was thinking the USSR army. ;)

Thanks, TheBoiledEgg :wavey:

mongo
09-07-2006, 01:32 AM
(...I'll continue to post this on as many Youzhny-Nadal threads y'all create.)

It was only a matter of time. James Blake established the blueprint. Prior to Youhzny, only Lee (in a loss) and Berdych (in a win) had followed suit.

On a fast court with lighter balls, dictate play by crowding the baseline and hitting deep and flat to Nadal's (overswing) forehand. His topspin isn't much of a factor on these (USO) courts with these (Wilson) balls. Nadal simply needs more time for his strokes. Much to P-Mac's dismay, Youzhny was an excellent match-up for Nadal for these reasons.

Since the changes to the courts and balls at Wimby, of the four slams, the USO now plays the quickest due to the combination of the balls and the courts.

All this garbage about "Nadal's negative tactics" is nonsense. His topspin is much less effective, and he lacks time to take set up that overswing on his forehand side. Having a mediocre serve, never hindered him from reaching #2 in the world. Playing on slower courts with heavier balls helped. And too much has been made of his serving at Wimbledon. He never served that big before or since.

Sunset of Age
09-07-2006, 01:34 AM
Excellent, OUTSTANDING performance by Misha Youzhny!!! :worship:

And YES, I am a big fan of Rafa, but not blind to his shortcomings. Youzhny clearly showed them to the all of the world to see...

Hope this guy makes it even further, he deserves it!

And for Rafa - poor thing, but losing, too, is part of the game...
Hope he'll get over it fast, and not to much of :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: in the locker room... :angel:

Yappa
09-07-2006, 01:34 AM
And now he'll have to play doubles against the Bryans. Good luck, Misha. :)

adee-gee
09-07-2006, 01:37 AM
Seriously, i dont know if Nadal can really improve, his grip is built for Clay.He had an open draw and he lost to the better man.Also people talk about Nadal being like this at an early age, who knows what might happen to him in like 4 years from now, he can burn out.I think Nadal needs to change his grip!!!!!
If we're talking about moving with time, shouldn't you change your name now that Lleyton doesn't rule anymore? ;)

prima donna
09-07-2006, 01:42 AM
Well done.

The Russian simply outclassed the boy from Mallorca, better luck next year.

scarecrows
09-07-2006, 01:44 AM
Seriously, i dont know if Nadal can really improve, his grip is built for Clay.He had an open draw and he lost to the better man.Also people talk about Nadal being like this at an early age, who knows what might happen to him in like 4 years from now, he can burn out.I think Nadal needs to change his grip!!!!!


you dont know anything about stages of development, do you?

Bagelicious
09-07-2006, 02:17 AM
Even as I was watching this match, I couldn't believe this result... taking the third set and going up in the fourth - Youzhny was A.M.A.Z.I.N.G. What happened to Nadal in the 4th set though? He totally just went away... was it a lack of confidence or what?

Either way Mikhail was impressive! If it hasn't already been done, I nominate him for Bandwagon Player of the USO.

justClaudia
09-07-2006, 02:23 AM
Misha :D Amazing!!!

scoobs
09-07-2006, 02:54 AM
See, I'd love to hear what those idiots who were mouthing off about how Robredo was a joke Top 10 player for losing to Youzhny have to say about the world number two losing to the same guy. Youzhny clearly means business this tournament.

And sorry you lost, Rafa, :awww: better luck next time. :hug:
In fairness, hardly anyone got to see that Robredo-Youzhny match.

That result makes MUCH more sense now.

mickymouse
09-07-2006, 02:57 AM
Youzhny took out the Spanish Armada, first Ferrer, then Robredo and now Nadal.
Nadal was simply overpowered today. I thought Youzhny would fade out after losing the second set but to his credit he stuck to his guns and pull out this amazing win.

Leo
09-07-2006, 03:04 AM
Fairly meaningless statement, but I saw Youzhny on the grounds at the USO on the 3rd day of the Open, and no one was bothering him or paying him any mind, and he was the only player I saw in the middle of the day walking around with everyone else. And i kind of thought, somethings going to happen for him...I'm glad he had such a nice breakthrough win.

I also saw Misha before the event started during the qualifying week and when he got off the practice court with Baghdatis, no one shouted for him or wanted his autograph except for me. But I felt deep down that this was his time for a deep run - of course I never expected he would play this well and have the upset of his life to make it to... Super Saturday!!! I'm so excited to see a full match of his (finally) and hopefully he can keep the good form going, whether or not he wins.

I used to dream about Youzhny beating Nadal in a GS QF (except it was AO and 8-6 in the 5th :D) and also making the USO SF, and now both have come true all in one miraculous match.

The best moment was when he pulled through from 0-40 triple sp down in the 3rd after choking the 2nd with that bullshit swinging backhand volley.

Do I recall someone saying he wouldn't do anything else after beating Massu in the 2nd round? Pssh.

Leo
09-07-2006, 03:05 AM
Btw, does anyone have a tape or DVD of this match IN COMPLETION?

tangerine_dream
09-07-2006, 03:07 AM
Maaaan. No Nadal in the semifinals? The USO is no fun anymore.

onewoman74
09-07-2006, 03:07 AM
Damn!! I left that match in the third set...I had to go to school...first day of grad school!!!

Youzhny, was putting a hurting on Nadal. His game was fierce, Youznhy just kept up the pace and matched Nadal shot for shot. The crowd was going mad! I sat right behind the players in Armstrong.

That match was better in person!!

adee-gee
09-07-2006, 03:07 AM
See, I'd love to hear what those idiots who were mouthing off about how Robredo was a joke Top 10 player for losing to Youzhny have to say about the world number two losing to the same guy. Youzhny clearly means business this tournament.

And sorry you lost, Rafa, :awww: better luck next time. :hug:
Ummm...Robredo won 3 games ;)

Leo
09-07-2006, 03:08 AM
Which is why they should've reserved their judgment! ;) But you're quite right, the Robredo result is a lot more understandable (and for me, more palatable :o) now.

Youzhny has way more weapons than Robredo when playing well, as he is this week. I almost feel pity for Tommy and the entire Spanish Armada sunken by a Russian warrior. :devil:

Corswandt
09-07-2006, 03:09 AM
Rafa has retreated back into the backcourt wastelands since Wimbledon and it's costing him dearly, the loopy topspin is landing too short and getting picked off - and more and more players are getting clued up on it.

Yup.

I watched only some parts of the final set, and Youzhny was blasting away with glee all that loopy junk that barely cleared the service line that Nadal sent his way.

ys
09-07-2006, 03:16 AM
Somehow people tend to forget that last year at Australian Open Youzhnyi had Nadal totally beaten, missed an easy volley into an open court on the match point in the third set, folded after that. Now Misha is mentally stronger than he used to be. Misha is in incredible form. Glad for him.

drf716
09-07-2006, 03:23 AM
roddick vs. youzhny please!

congratulations misha hope to see you in the finals!!!

Scotso
09-07-2006, 04:49 AM
Awesome event for Misha. Hopefully he'll continue his excellent form to the finals or all the way to the title.

Neely
09-07-2006, 04:59 AM
Somehow people tend to forget that last year at Australian Open Youzhnyi had Nadal totally beaten, missed an easy volley into an open court on the match point in the third set, folded after that.
That's true, things evened out now. This time it was time for Nadal to screw up such an easy, but important shot.

World Beater
09-07-2006, 05:22 AM
You know, I don't mind so much when Rafa loses to nice guys like Blake or Federer.

But Mikhail came across as a right arrogant prick. All the fist pumping, and what was with the salute (err, well done comraad! :p )? Then Rafa shakes his hand and says something and Mikhail just turns away as if to say 'whatever, loser'.

Arse. Yes I'm annoyed Rafa lost. :mad:



:haha:

please tell me you are sarcastic.

sawan66278
09-07-2006, 05:38 AM
:rolleyes: I was at the match for the whole match...and, as a Rafa fan, I am totally devastated...why? Because even though he was outplayed for most of the match, he missed a sitter at 5-4 in the third set that should have given him a two sets to one lead...and then the complete throwing in of the towel in the fourth...

Here are my observations from the match:

1. I was concerned the moment I saw how Youzhny took out Robredo...Robredo was playing strong ball and got rocked...and from the first six games of the first set, I knew Youzhny was ready to play...Rafa struggled on serve, and Youzhny played with confidence and power...especially his wonderful backhand.

2. Rafa tied the match through grit, even though he was up a break 3-0 in the second...great fight from Rafa.

3. In the third, I thought Rafa played excellent tennis up to the debacle of 0-40 and 5-4...His forehand was wicked and he was moving Youzhny around, dictating play...

4. The ENTIRE match turned on one shot: Rafa's set point at 15-40 in the third after the great backhand return...He could have hit his forehand down the line or crosscourt, but slapped it into the net... :eek: :sad: :sad:

5. The crowd was about 90% for Youzhny...especially after he saved the three set points...They were chanting "Misha" and I felt very, very alone being a Rafa fan...I really feel that Rafa lost heart slightly when he saw that the crowd had turned against him...I told my brother that he was "Edberged" at that point...what do I mean...Edberg, early in his career at the Open, had a difficult time playing when the crowd cheered against him...His head would droop and the fight would leave him...After he lost the third set, and Rafa saw that crowd was ecstatic...he looked as though he gave up...the first time I have seen Rafa since Blake last year say "No Mas". Why the crowd did not try to help Rafa in the fourth is beyond me...but then again, the fans I was sitting next too seemed to know nothing about tennis...saying that Youzhny defeated Emilio Sanchez in the third round this year

6. I can see improvements in his hard court game...His first serve, while not as high as needed percentage-wise, was often in the 120-125 range...his volleys have improved.

7. What Rafa needs to do to combat these power players is use his forehand to set up his net game more...there were MANY times where his forehand caused Youzhny to scamble...and return a slice or weaker shot...Rafa, instead of coming in an putting the ball away at net, retreated back to a few feet behind the baseline...His forehand was impressive today (except for the fourth)...and I think he will take advantage of this as time progresses.

8. All due credit ot Youzhny...the man deserved the win...he hit the shots, serves...and played gutsy tennis...I had NO PROBLEM with ANY of his reactions...He earned the reactions, and did not pull a Roddick...trying to get the crowd on his sign with his antics.

9. Rafa was a good sport in defeat...and he showed respect to Youzhny and the fans...not just walking out, but acknowleding them as he left...

All in all, a sad day as a Rafa fan...oh, and one other point: I was at the Blake match next year, so I will not go to another Rafa match late in the tourney...obviously my presence contributes to his defeats... ;)

Argenbrit
09-07-2006, 05:56 AM
:woohoo: :bounce: :banana:

Iheartandy&roger
09-07-2006, 05:57 AM
Damn it I wanted a Roddick-Nadal semis so bad!! Oh well this should be a cruiser for Andy to the finals now which is good because Federer has an easy route too.

Blue Heart24
09-07-2006, 06:17 AM
MISHA :worship: :worship:

Clara Bow
09-07-2006, 06:20 AM
5. The crowd was about 90% for Youzhny...especially after he saved the three set points...They were chanting "Misha" and I felt very, very alone being a Rafa fan...I really feel that Rafa lost heart slightly when he saw that the crowd had turned against him...

I think that could be true. From his press conference

" 'Misha, Misha', I listen to that more than 'Rafa, Rafa,' " Nadal said with a smile. "It's okay. The public support me a lot in the last days. Today was not the best day, but that's okay."


Granted- the crowds at RG are always booing and hissing him whenever they can, but he has had a good response at the USO so far so I think it may have disheartened him a bit. Note to the hatas- he did not say that is why he lost or anything. I am just saying he observed that the crowd was not cheering for him.

And I remember when Stefan did that as well. I hope Rafa will eventually get the Edberg result though and get a USO title. :)

Sparko1030
09-07-2006, 06:29 AM
:sad: Rafa...my one fav I can count on winning....alas...at least it makes Nico's loss earlier a little easier to take. Youzhny seems to be hot- I hope he can give Roddick a run.

niko
09-07-2006, 06:34 AM
Whatever you say guys I watched the match Nadal looked like he never played tennis before.

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 06:41 AM
Youzhny used his brains in this match and executed what he needed to and full marks for that.

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 06:47 AM
Do I recall someone saying he wouldn't do anything else after beating Massu in the 2nd round? Pssh.

If you are going to quote, do it properly. Youzhny is inconsistent, hence he has some excellent results and usually after a good tournament, he doesn't follow it up.

Enough of this, enjoy the fact he has taken out Hrbaty, Massu, Ferrer, Robredo and Nadal to make his first semi final and now has to right the wrong against Roddick from the AO.

Norrage
09-07-2006, 06:53 AM
Nadal even got a set too many....He should never have won that second set and should just have been whooped in 3....Youzhny was incredible.

Norrage
09-07-2006, 06:55 AM
and he beat Brian brothers in double :D

Clara Bow
09-07-2006, 07:06 AM
Youzhny used his brains in this match and executed what he needed to and full marks for that.

His presser shows that imo - in terms of his brains.

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 07:16 AM
His presser shows that imo - in terms of his brains.

Presser?

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 07:18 AM
Fairly meaningless statement, but I saw Youzhny on the grounds at the USO on the 3rd day of the Open, and no one was bothering him or paying him any mind, and he was the only player I saw in the middle of the day walking around with everyone else. And i kind of thought, somethings going to happen for him...I'm glad he had such a nice breakthrough win.

Not useless at all and it's not surprising. They know who he is now though.

TenHound
09-07-2006, 07:18 AM
Duhhhhh...presser=press conference

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 07:24 AM
Duhhhhh...presser=press conference

Thank you Socrates

Leo
09-07-2006, 07:48 AM
If you are going to quote, do it properly. Youzhny is inconsistent, hence he has some excellent results and usually after a good tournament, he doesn't follow it up.


I understood what you wrote and I didn't agree because at the time you said that, all he had going was a GS 3rd round. And he's been consistent at making GS 3rd and 4th rounds in his career, especially at Wimbledon and the USO. But yes, since the Massu win this run has really become special.

tripb19
09-07-2006, 07:48 AM
I am firmly riding on Misha's bandwagon.

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 07:54 AM
I understood what you wrote and I didn't agree because at the time you said that, all he had going was a GS 3rd round. And he's been consistent at making GS 3rd and 4th rounds in his career, especially at Wimbledon and the USO. But yes, since the Massu win this run has really become special.

Actually the problem with Youzhny, is not his game or his talent and never has been and I think most people would be aware of that now, notice I said most.

He can play, but there is a reason he was ranked 54 before this tournament and it wasn't cause of his ability. I have seen the matches in the flesh where he blew chances against Rafa and Roddick. At his best he could exist between 10-20 in the rankings, then again with what is in the top 10 at the moment, that above could be considered conservative.

Mrs. B
09-07-2006, 08:22 AM
i was pleasantly surprised with this result, i went to bed after the 3rd set and Rafa was leading, couldn't believe my eyes with the scoreline, unfortunately they didn't show those 5 games in the 4th set this morning, but happy for Misha, he deserved this win, he played with a lot of heart/courage to beat Nadal. reminds me of his win against PHM during DC finals in Paris.

:) gotta love that bh.

Castafiore
09-07-2006, 08:26 AM
I haven't read most of this thread but....

Full credit to Youzhny! Man, it was very hard to follow this match as a Rafafan but Youzhny was excellent.
There's no excuse: the better player on the day won the match.


Youzhny: :hatoff:
Nadal: :sad: :sad:


And Hewitt lost as well, I see. :sad:
Damn, this sucks.

Michael Pemulis
09-07-2006, 08:36 AM
that's it. wonderful performance by the Russian

he showed how to play against Rafa. Fast, flat shots, forcing him to run from corner to corner. it's easy to defend against such thing on clay, but on decoturf not always give a profit. Misha played a match of his life, he played like a Top 5 player. Better than Ivan and Fat Dave together

Now, can Youzhny defeat Roddick/Hewitt?


I like how Misha played the angled FH and BH that almost always blew Rafa off the court. Excellent.

blueskye
09-07-2006, 08:46 AM
I'm a huge fan of Nadal, but Youzhny played some amazing points and had Nadal running all over the court :clap2: ! That was one of the best matches of the tournament so far! :woohoo:

rrfnpump
09-07-2006, 08:50 AM
yay, Misha :banana: :D :yeah: :worship:
that was an amazing display of hardcourt tennis

decisive moment of the match was when he saved SPx3 at 4*-5 in the third set
fourth set was simply a stunner :drool:

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 09:05 AM
WELL WELL WELL
I RETURNED FROM A NIGHT OUT TO FIND THIS, SWEET :D
Raffy duck is bombed out by one of Fed's bitches :rolls:
there goes No1 for the year :woohoo:
You are an absolute legend Misha and consider me on your bandwagon *salute*

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 09:09 AM
Northern Ireland 3 - Spain 2, EURO2008 qualifier.

That is the real defeat for Spain today.:haha: LOL
that burro Deivid23 must be on suicide watch today huh
Then Rafa shakes his hand and says something and Mikhail just turns away as if to say 'whatever, loser'.Ohh misha i love you son :inlove:

Exodus
09-07-2006, 09:10 AM
and people thought that nadal would win easily...

oz_boz
09-07-2006, 09:12 AM
:eek:

I think it was a good display of tactics from Youzhny. He hit a ton of winners, but did not always go for broke, he mixed it up with lower tempo.
Plus: his backhand was really superb, it got him a few winners crosscourt and allowed him to the upperhand in the rallies.
He also seemed to be really fit, and never got tight.

Nadal didn't really have a bad day, but wasn't sharp enough when he tried to outhit Youzhny. When he resided to his backboard tactics, he was overpowered. That seemed to bother him and his game gradually got worse with his nervousness. Knowing his outstanding mental resources, I still believed he would win until he failed to grab the third set when he was clearly in command. He lost the plot completely in the final set.

Misha - Spaniard killa :hatoff:
Nadal - last young gun to bow out :wavey:

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 09:16 AM
See it makes a lot of sense now that Boredo only got 3 games and Youzhny showing potentially what he can do when it comes together.

The irony of this is that Nadal one of the bastions of mental toughness only coverted 2/12 bp chances and after all the times he has won matches when the other guy had his chances makes it better for Youzhny, who deserved his win and most semi-sane people can see that.

Castafiore
09-07-2006, 09:43 AM
The irony of this is that Nadal one of the bastions of mental toughness only coverted 2/12 bp chances
It's not a matter of "irony" to me since I don't think that Nadal is as mentally tough on a fast hardcourt and against an attacking player as he is on clay for example.

Melekhin
09-07-2006, 10:09 AM
:woohoo:

i have such amazing feelings now

Waiting for such kind of win from 2002 davis cup

Salut, Misha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 10:13 AM
It's not a matter of "irony" to me since I don't think that Nadal is as mentally tough on a fast hardcourt and against an attacking player as he is on clay for example.

Nadal has won enough matches through his own will and being outplayed for many of them. It's usually his opponents who can't finish the job, not he.

Deathless Mortal
09-07-2006, 10:50 AM
YEAH!!! I'm so happy!!! I'm not Youzhny's fan, but I dont like Nadal... Its not like I hate him, but I'm happy when he lose!

:worship: C'MON LJUBO!!! YOU'RE THE BEST!!! :worship:

RonE
09-07-2006, 10:50 AM
I did not expect this :eek:

Congrats to Mikhail! :hatoff:

Rafa is still young and he will have his chances yet- although according to what people who have seen the match have said he stayed way too far behind the baseline and was too passive. I wonder how much of that was just a subconscious unwillingness to step out of his comfort zone and how much of it was credited by Youzhny's play?

Mrs. B
09-07-2006, 11:07 AM
time to update the roasting thread, Ron? ;)

scoobs
09-07-2006, 11:09 AM
Unfortunately I thought Rafa's reputation for mental toughness took a big hit in this match, because in the fourth set he just went away. I expected him to come out swinging but his groundies became more erratic, his shot selection got worse and he looked mentally defeated long before the umpire called GSM. Contrasting that with Rome this year in the final is a bit shocking.

RonE
09-07-2006, 11:11 AM
time to update the roasting thread, Ron? ;)

You bet your ass it is! :devil:

oz_boz
09-07-2006, 11:23 AM
Unfortunately I thought Rafa's reputation for mental toughness took a big hit in this match, because in the fourth set he just went away. I expected him to come out swinging but his groundies became more erratic, his shot selection got worse and he looked mentally defeated long before the umpire called GSM. Contrasting that with Rome this year in the final is a bit shocking.

I have the same impression. Nadal seemed to react a bit like Roger in his losses to Rafa: their games seem to go out of the window when they discover that they may actually lose to an opponent they thought they would dominate. I was also a bit shocked because you rarely see Rafa losing his confidence. He actually seemed to regain fire at 1-5 0-30 in Youzny's serve in the final set, if he had gotten that game i wonder what would have happened. But maybe he had gone down anyway, Mikhail was the ice man yesterday.

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 11:34 AM
Unfortunately I thought Rafa's reputation for mental toughness took a big hit in this match, because in the fourth set he just went away. I expected him to come out swinging but his groundies became more erratic, his shot selection got worse and he looked mentally defeated long before the umpire called GSM. Contrasting that with Rome this year in the final is a bit shocking.

Cumulative pressure, it happens now and then to all players.

kindablue
09-07-2006, 11:41 AM
Cumulative pressure, it happens now and then to all players.

Shouldn't it be cumulative presion? :devil:

scoobs
09-07-2006, 11:43 AM
Cumulative pressure, it happens now and then to all players.
It does, yeah - though given part of Rafa's aura is the belief that he will fight to the very last ball and never concede...well the way he let that fourth set slip until he tried to dig in right at the end...I think that will have given his opponents cheer, especially on non-clay surfaces.

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 11:46 AM
I thought uncle mafia toni looked a bit gutted towards the end :angel:

Action Jackson
09-07-2006, 12:07 PM
Shouldn't it be cumulative presion? :devil:

Under pression
Misha beating down on me
Beating down on me
Pression

adee-gee
09-07-2006, 12:17 PM
I thought uncle mafia toni looked a bit gutted towards the end :angel:
:shrug: he should be.

He was still applauding Youzhny's good shots though. What a top man.

bad gambler
09-07-2006, 12:19 PM
good job Misha

Vass
09-07-2006, 12:37 PM
I'm also curios about his salute. He also looks a little bit like a skin-head (well not in recent days - he probably forgot his shaver). But seriously... it seems so military... maybe very right wing. That would be a shame... he is just so gorgeous :p

Exactly why I have bad connotations. Was his father in the military? :shrug:

His dad who was in the Russian Navy died some years ago.
In one interview after DC 02 he was sort of sad, saying "it's such a pity that he didn't live to see this".
In Dubai last year after some good win he was asked about his salute (that he does after every won match) in the on-court interview. He mentioned his dad in the answer.

That's SOOO negative. ;)
It just makes me respect him more. Most people would shy away and not do such a unnusual looking thing.

Mrs. B
09-07-2006, 01:15 PM
His dad who was in the Russian Navy died some years ago.



wasn't his Dad hit by a car and the driver got away? :sad:

scoobs
09-07-2006, 01:32 PM
Does this mean that Youzhny blew Nadal off the court? :awww:
in parts, yes - especially in the fourth set.

cmurray
09-07-2006, 01:34 PM
Youhzny played a REALLY good match. The thing is that Rafa should have won the third set. Can't get away from that fact.

You know, it's funny. People seem to be ready to write Rafa off because he had sort of a bad hard-court season. I wonder if our expectations would have been this high if he hadn't made that run to the finals of Wimby. I mean it all boils down to this - all of Rafa's results are LOADS better than they were last year. He exceeded his previous results at the US by 2 rounds. We'll see what happens in Australia, but I'm not ready to say adios just yet.

Kalliopeia
09-07-2006, 02:02 PM
Youhzny played a REALLY good match. The thing is that Rafa should have won the third set. Can't get away from that fact.

You know, it's funny. People seem to be ready to write Rafa off because he had sort of a bad hard-court season. I wonder if our expectations would have been this high if he hadn't made that run to the finals of Wimby. I mean it all boils down to this - all of Rafa's results are LOADS better than they were last year. He exceeded his previous results at the US by 2 rounds. We'll see what happens in Australia, but I'm not ready to say adios just yet.

I think the surprising results at Wimbledon really did make a difference. He's so damn good at just 20 that we expect more of him than he is capable of delivering just yet. Though I don't really have any doubts that he'll get there eventually. That fourth set really reminded you of how young he really is, he looked completely lost and defeated. That was actually the hardest thing for me to see. The game itself was painful but Youzhny was playing like a man possessed. Rafa was making a lot of errors but ultimately it was just that Youzhny was on fire. So losing in and of itself wasn't so hard to take. But seeing that defeated body language in Rafa was kind of awful. But you're right, with the exception of Toronto he's done nothing but improve this year. So I'm not worried. :)

pistolmarat
09-07-2006, 02:29 PM
brilliant tennis from Misha:hatoff:

User id 7816
09-07-2006, 02:46 PM
that's it. wonderful performance by the Russian

he showed how to play against Rafa. Fast, flat shots, forcing him to run from corner to corner. it's easy to defend against such thing on clay, but on decoturf not always give a profit. Misha played a match of his life, he played like a Top 5 player. Better than Ivan and Fat Dave together

Now, can Youzhny defeat Roddick/Hewitt?

and it shows that on this surface you can't win on defence mostly.
I'm only surprised by Youzhny's mental stability cause I guess I've seen him lose it and you have no chance against Rafa without that. It was Rafa who shrank in the 4th set and you can see on his face he was beat. I wonder why, since you don't often see him not have fight. granted Youzhny did play great!

~Jin~
09-07-2006, 02:51 PM
Great win for Mikhail.

TheBoiledEgg
09-07-2006, 03:07 PM
Funny thing with Rafa saying thats the best he's played in the tourn :tape:

Adler
09-07-2006, 03:11 PM
It was Rafa who shrank in the 4th set and you can see on his face he was beat. I wonder why, since you don't often see him not have fight.
Rafa mentioned in some interview that a quarterfinal would be a success. Maybe it was not bullshit, maybe he knew he's not that good on decoturf?

Kalliopeia
09-07-2006, 03:21 PM
Rafa mentioned in some interview that a quarterfinal would be a success. Maybe it was not bullshit, maybe he knew he's not that good on decoturf?


I doubt it. Even if it were true (which I don't believe..he's not great on the surface yet but he's improving), he doesn't seem the type to think in such an inherently defeatist way. I think he, unlike many of his fans, has set himself realistic goals of how fast he can improve.

Leo
09-07-2006, 03:28 PM
Youhzny played a REALLY good match. The thing is that Rafa should have won the third set. Can't get away from that fact.


And Youzhny should have won the first set easier and the second set too.

kindablue
09-07-2006, 03:29 PM
Under pression
Misha beating down on me
Beating down on me
Pression

:lol:I forgot you were also a musical genious!

Clara Bow
09-07-2006, 03:29 PM
It was Rafa who shrank in the 4th set and you can see on his face he was beat. I wonder why, since you don't often see him not have fight. granted Youzhny did play great!

He mentioned in the press release that after the third set he did not have "peace" of mind and "after, I was not playing with the best calm in that moments."

I do think he got a bit deflated.

rofe
09-07-2006, 03:38 PM
Youhzny played a REALLY good match. The thing is that Rafa should have won the third set. Can't get away from that fact.

You know, it's funny. People seem to be ready to write Rafa off because he had sort of a bad hard-court season. I wonder if our expectations would have been this high if he hadn't made that run to the finals of Wimby. I mean it all boils down to this - all of Rafa's results are LOADS better than they were last year. He exceeded his previous results at the US by 2 rounds. We'll see what happens in Australia, but I'm not ready to say adios just yet.

There is no need to say adios to Nadal yet. It is just that the hype-o-meter was on overdrive coming into the USO even though his HC results in the two masters series left a lot to be desired. It was obvious to me after watching the match that Nadal still has some ways to go on fast HC.

NYCtennisfan
09-07-2006, 03:41 PM
That's the second straight year where Rafa has kind of gone away after the 3rd set at the Open. He basically gave up hope after the the first couple of games of the 4th set against Blake last year as well and this surprised me. Thing is, this happens to everyone when everything starts going against them i.e. they aren't playing well, their opponent's is, the matchup is already bad to begin with, etc. and you have these 6-1 or 6-0 or 6-2 sets to finish Slam matches. It's always happened and always will even to someone who supposedly never stops fighting.

mickymouse
09-07-2006, 03:48 PM
I think he did not have 'peace of mind' because Youzhny was making it tough for him to hold his own games throughout the match. Right from the get go, Youzhny was already having bps or pushing to deuce on all of Nadal's service games. I mean, how often do you see players do that to him?

Rogiman
09-07-2006, 04:00 PM
That's the second straight year where Rafa has kind of gone away after the 3rd set at the Open.
An interesting pattern appears, though:
In 2004 Rafa needed a bagel to begin his tournament (vs. Roddick), whereas in 2005/6 he ordered a breadstick-to-go before getting on the plane :devil:

Hagar
09-07-2006, 04:01 PM
Roger, please watch this match!!! Here you can see how you have to beat Nadal.
BTW, it was about time Youzhny had a great win. Why did it take him so long? I saw him for the first time in that Davis Cup final and I thought he had a very good game.

mallorn
09-07-2006, 04:21 PM
His dad who was in the Russian Navy died some years ago.
In one interview after DC 02 he was sort of sad, saying "it's such a pity that he didn't live to see this".
In Dubai last year after some good win he was asked about his salute (that he does after every won match) in the on-court interview. He mentioned his dad in the answer.

That's SOOO negative. ;)
It just makes me respect him more. Most people would shy away and not do such a unnusual looking thing.
I didn't mean to say that it's negative, or to ruffle anyone's feelings, and now I understand why he does it.

It's just personal, and I can't help it. Sorry, I shouldn't have said anything. :wavey:
Funny thing with Rafa saying thats the best he's played in the tourn :tape:
Based on his presser I'm guessing that he tried to give all the credit to Misha. He refused to blame the defeat on his poor play, bum ankle or the crowd cheering for the opponent, all of which he was asked about.

Rafa mentioned in some interview that a quarterfinal would be a success. Maybe it was not bullshit, maybe he knew he's not that good on decoturf?
No, he was very disappointed. He half-joked: "I am the No. 2 in the world. So I lost with the last eight. If I am the No. 2, I play the final, no?"
I think he did not have 'peace of mind' because Youzhny was making it tough for him to hold his own games throughout the match. Right from the get go, Youzhny was already having bps or pushing to deuce on all of Nadal's service games. I mean, how often do you see players do that to him?
Exactly, Misha pushed him all the time, and when Rafa did get a chance, he blew it.

Corswandt
09-07-2006, 04:22 PM
5. The crowd was about 90% for Youzhny...especially after he saved the three set points...They were chanting "Misha" and I felt very, very alone being a Rafa fan...I really feel that Rafa lost heart slightly when he saw that the crowd had turned against him...I told my brother that he was "Edberged" at that point...what do I mean...Edberg, early in his career at the Open, had a difficult time playing when the crowd cheered against him...His head would droop and the fight would leave him...After he lost the third set, and Rafa saw that crowd was ecstatic...he looked as though he gave up...the first time I have seen Rafa since Blake last year say "No Mas". Why the crowd did not try to help Rafa in the fourth is beyond me...but then again, the fans I was sitting next too seemed to know nothing about tennis...saying that Youzhny defeated Emilio Sanchez in the third round this year

Merely rooting for the underdog, no big deal.

And I felt the crowd was clearly against Rafa at the Monte Carlo final and that didnt' seem to upset him.

adee-gee
09-07-2006, 04:36 PM
I didn't mean to say that it's negative, or to ruffle anyone's feelings, and now I understand why he does it.

It's just personal, and I can't help it. Sorry, I shouldn't have said anything. :wavey:
I got a little :unsure: when I saw it, I've got to say. It reminded me of a Hitler salute that's why. Glad it's nothing like that and it's a nice gesture :)

sawan66278
09-07-2006, 05:05 PM
I have to admit, I was devastated by the loss....more so because, as has been posted, he should have won the third set...Had he still lost, I would have been less upset...and as was stated earlier, the giving up in the third set...

I really feel that Rafa could not shake the memory of the set points and crowd support for Misha...he kept trying to pump himself up, but there was nothing there...

The New York crowds are always rough, and the atmosphere, in my mind, it really difficult to play...Not only are they the most rowdy (along with the French at times), the crowd is not really an educated tennis crowd...It's a typical American sports crowd...Most people there love upsets because that is the American sports fan mindset: Love the upset and underdog....really brought on by their love of the NCAA Basketball tourney in my opinion...For example, I was talking to a friend the other night who said that while he was watching Agassi against Bags, he wanted Agassi to win, but part of him wanted to lose so he could say he was at Agassi's last match...People like to brag to their friends that they were at an upset...

Fans at the Aussie and Wimbledon enjoy great matches, and are very knowledgeable...New York fans are often tennis fans for two weeks...and then its football season...

adee-gee
09-07-2006, 05:13 PM
Fans at the Aussie and Wimbledon enjoy great matches, and are very knowledgeable...New York fans are often tennis fans for two weeks...and then its football season...
:rolls:

You've never been to Wimbledon, have you? :o

sawan66278
09-07-2006, 05:20 PM
Actually, I haven't...I just assumed because the atmosphere seemed so composed and stately...

Experimentee
09-07-2006, 05:21 PM
I have to admit, I was devastated by the loss....more so because, as has been posted, he should have won the third set...Had he still lost, I would have been less upset...and as was stated earlier, the giving up in the third set...

I really feel that Rafa could not shake the memory of the set points and crowd support for Misha...he kept trying to pump himself up, but there was nothing there...

The New York crowds are always rough, and the atmosphere, in my mind, it really difficult to play...Not only are they the most rowdy (along with the French at times), the crowd is not really an educated tennis crowd...It's a typical American sports crowd...Most people there love upsets because that is the American sports fan mindset: Love the upset and underdog....really brought on by their love of the NCAA Basketball tourney in my opinion...For example, I was talking to a friend the other night who said that while he was watching Agassi against Bags, he wanted Agassi to win, but part of him wanted to lose so he could say he was at Agassi's last match...People like to brag to their friends that they were at an upset...

Fans at the Aussie and Wimbledon enjoy great matches, and are very knowledgeable...New York fans are often tennis fans for two weeks...and then its football season...

People everywhere like to see upsets, I doubt its just the New York fans.

gulzhan
09-07-2006, 05:35 PM
It's not about loving upsets. It's about loving those who fight. After all this is what sport is about, isn't it? It's in art you can enjoy the perfomance per se. The best in sport is to challenge the strongest ones. To challenge and to win. And that is what Mikhail did. And that is why the crowd was on his side. And that would be the same in Paris, London and/or Melbourne.

onewoman74
09-07-2006, 05:36 PM
Please, I was sitting a few rows behind Youznhy and Nadal and I had to endure annoying teeny-bopper Rafa fans that had NO knowledge of tennis. After every fucking point they kept yelling out "RAFA YOUR BEAUTIFUL", "RAFA WE LOVE YOU"...everyone in my section wanted to take their signs and shove it down their throats. All they cared about was trying to get Nadal's attention by trying to wave that dumb sign in his face. Then on top of that they would yell "OUT" every time Youznhy took a swing at the ball. The lady next to me was going to knock them out and I was ready to join her.

My two cents...

Drimal
09-07-2006, 06:13 PM
Well done Mikhail! :worship:

What an amazing week he is playing! :eek: :eek:

tangerine_dream
09-07-2006, 06:23 PM
:rolls:
You've never been to Wimbledon, have you? :o
:lol: Nor New York.

btw, Johnny Mac mentioned something about a salute Misha did. Was he talking about this?

gulzhan
09-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Michail always does it after the win-- military salutation, normal one, nothing in common with the hitler's salut! :mad: He covers his head with the racket because it's not allowed to give a military salut without a cap (?)-- at least in russian and post soviet armies. What is wrong with you people? Is that considered to be so bad just to have a history and to respect it?
We call Misha the "red commander" (the Red Army-- great part of our childhood :D ) -- it just suits his personality :). So does his salut. And we love it :p . And we love him :worship: .

gulzhan
09-07-2006, 06:42 PM
It reminded me of a Hitler salute that's why.

look at the picture above at tangerine_dream's message. he salutes with his right hand. the left hand that reminded you of hitler simply holds the racket. :mad: what a stupid assumption of a russian copying hitler! :mad:

silverarrows
09-07-2006, 06:43 PM
I was shocked when I saw the performance of Misha. Great job! :) He played like he's a top 5 player in the world. From what I saw, Rafa looks like just an average player. :D

sawan66278
09-07-2006, 06:57 PM
Those very same fans who wanted Rafa lose will be the same fans who will look at the match on Saturday and go, "Roddick and Youzhny...I'll watch college football instead"...Rafa and Roddick in the semis...different story...Tennis needs the big names at the end of the two weeks...at least here in the U.S.

DrJules
09-07-2006, 07:03 PM
Fans at the Aussie and Wimbledon enjoy great matches, and are very knowledgeable...New York fans are often tennis fans for two weeks...and then its football season...

I can only speak of Wimbledon, but the reason for a knowledgable crowd is that most of the tickets seems to be distributed to tennis clubs who sell them on to their members often with internal ballots.

The people I know who have gone to Wimbledon have obtained tickets through ballots at their clubs.

Yes many tickets go to non-club members, but there is a strong weighting towards club members. Overall I think this gives a crowd with a greater appreciation and understanding of tennis; more interested in the tennis and less in this on court war e.g. J-Block at US Open.

Allez
09-07-2006, 08:20 PM
This was a lovely result. Youzhny is great.

victory1
09-07-2006, 08:26 PM
Those very same fans who wanted Rafa lose will be the same fans who will look at the match on Saturday and go, "Roddick and Youzhny...I'll watch college football instead"...Rafa and Roddick in the semis...different story...Tennis needs the big names at the end of the two weeks...at least here in the U.S.


Please! As long as it's Roddick or Agassi, the casual tennis fan will not miss Rafa.

dorkino
09-07-2006, 10:07 PM
Unfortunately,haven't got to see the whole match but from what i saw
I guess Youzhny was at his best level, he was in a good form mentally and physically ,got there packed with ambition yet with a -nothing to lose-feeling ( which i think was important) , a good tactic to outplay Nadal with heavy deep and rapid shots from one corner to another and not giving rafa much chance to "stop running",and taking a proper control of his shots.

on the other side of the court , Rafa who wasn't primarily very confident yesterday, got more nervous under that pressure.He was trapped in a reactive defensive mode, and finally lost accuracy when it really mattered :shrug:

All in all ,for me, The US open now lost a biiiig portion of its excitement but
i hope and guess from his presser that Nadal realizes by now that only defense from baseline is and won't be the key for better results on HCs when it comes to strong opponents' tests.
what's more important, is how and when 'll he manage to improve these defects and get more aggressive, i really hope he succeeds :)
Youzhny simply was the better player yesterday :hatoff:
Now let's see, how long 'll u keep it up ;)

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 10:17 PM
The Misha salute is great...
he's been doing it for years, im surprised some ppl have just noticed it :o

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 10:20 PM
Those very same fans who wanted Rafa lose will be the same fans who will look at the match on Saturday and go, "Roddick and Youzhny...I'll watch college football instead"...Rafa and Roddick in the semis...different story...Tennis needs the big names at the end of the two weeks...at least here in the U.S.And what is Roddick in the U.S then? a small cookie?
honestly, i always knew you were a right turd of the Rafatard breed.

Bagelicious
09-07-2006, 10:23 PM
The Misha salute is great...
he's been doing it for years, im surprised some ppl have just noticed it :o

I wonder at all the people who thought it was a Nazi salute. Apart from the fact that it's just a normal military salute (I believe the 'Heil Hitler' salute is completely different) - do they honestly think that in this day and age, there's a tennis player that would go around hailing tens of thousands of fans at a Grand Slam with a Nazi salute? Seriously, come on!

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 10:23 PM
Does this mean that Youzhny blew Nadal off the court? :awww:Stop it now :p
:aplot:

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 10:25 PM
I wonder at all the people who thought it was a Nazi salute. Apart from the fact that it's just a normal military salute (I believe the 'Heil Hitler' is completely different) - do they honestly think that in this day and age, there's a tennis player that would go around hailing tens of thousands of fans at a Grand Slam with a Nazi salute? Seriously, come on!Rafa's fans will have believed it was something evil as big bad Misha molested their little boy and made him look like crying :awww: :awww:

just kidding ;)

mallorn
09-07-2006, 10:30 PM
I wonder at all the people who thought it was a Nazi salute. Apart from the fact that it's just a normal military salute (I believe the 'Heil Hitler' salute is completely different) - do they honestly think that in this day and age, there's a tennis player that would go around hailing tens of thousands of fans at a Grand Slam with a Nazi salute? Seriously, come on!
Ok, since it was me who asked about it, I'd better explain myself.

First of all, I've seen it before, Escude, just didn't know why he did it.

Second, it doesn't remind me of the Nazi salute at all. It reminds me of the Red Army. And where I come from, that's not a good memory.

Can we go back to tennis now? I'm sure Escude still has plenty to say about the match. :p

Bagelicious
09-07-2006, 10:39 PM
I doubt it. Even if it were true (which I don't believe..he's not great on the surface yet but he's improving), he doesn't seem the type to think in such an inherently defeatist way. I think he, unlike many of his fans, has set himself realistic goals of how fast he can improve.

You make a good point. Especially since Wimbledon, you'd have thought Rafa was God from the way fans and some commentators have been talking about him in the lead up to the US open. Rafa appears pretty level-headed though and seems to try and keep some perspective on things.

Hype can hurt a player (and their fan base) more than people seem to realise. I wonder how many casual fans were convinced by the hype machine that Rafa was the next coming of Christ, only to feel that they were duped? I wish they'd do more advertising of the top 20 or so, just so that casual fans can feel a little more knowledgable about players and get more into the game. The constant focus on the Americans, Rafa, Sharapova and Roger (though not so much this USO) hurts them if these players end up losing early and does nothing to keep casual fans watching the sport.

Bagelicious
09-07-2006, 10:40 PM
Ok, since it was me who asked about it, I'd better explain myself.

First of all, I've seen it before, Escude, just didn't know why he did it.

Second, it doesn't remind me of the Nazi salute at all. It reminds me of the Red Army. And where I come from, that's not a good memory.

Can we go back to tennis now? I'm sure Escude still has plenty to say about the match. :p

I'm done. There's a couple of others who mentioned the Nazis in regards to the salute (maybe in another thread). Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh.

Corey Feldman
09-07-2006, 10:45 PM
Can we go back to tennis now? I'm sure Escude still has plenty to say about the match. :pYep, well um........ uncle Toni pulls some funny faces doesnt he?
:p

prima donna
09-07-2006, 10:48 PM
Hahahahaha.

mallorn
09-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Yep, well um........ uncle Toni pulls some funny faces doesnt he?
:p
:lol:

At least he doesn't chew on things. :p

sawan66278
09-08-2006, 12:40 AM
Escude...it is truly a shame that you seemingly are a crude individual...truly sad...I guess intelligent discourse is not something you seek or produce...In any event, tennis thrives when there is a rivalry...and the top two have tremendous one...both playing in the finals of the previous two majors (which has never happened before in the same year) and the #2 having a 4-1 record against the #1 this year...so yes, it does hurt ratings and hurts bringing up the casual tennis fan...

This even goes for sports like baseball...if the Yankees or Sox are in the World Series, the country watches...Chicago White Sox...not so likely...

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 05:58 AM
The Youzhny salute, there is nothing sinister in it at all.

His father died a few years ago and he was in the Russian armed forces and it's a tribute to his dead father.

Corey Feldman
12-19-2007, 08:11 PM
BUMPPPP

what a match this was :worship: remember when Col. Misha http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/shv.gif was blazing 100MPH winners on every point in the fourth set and Rafa kept looking up and uncle Toni like he was about to cry?

fantastic :D

the thread wasnt too bad either ;)

scarecrows
12-19-2007, 08:13 PM
that was an amazing display from youzhny, he hasnt been able to produce it again

Corey Feldman
12-19-2007, 08:14 PM
reminds, that poster Mallorn ^^ .... lovely Rafa fan she was... she has since dissapeared off the face of the earth :sad: come back Mallorn

tennizen
12-19-2007, 08:23 PM
This thread brings back unpleasant memories. I was tremendously disappointed because at that time I foolishly believed Nadal to be at the same level of invincibility as Fed:rolleyes:. I remember that after this match I decided to be less of a fangirl and enjoy tennis more rather than be disappointed so thoroughly:p Not that I stuck to the decision:)

Marek.
12-19-2007, 08:56 PM
I still need to get this match on DVD. It was such a display from Youzhny. :worship: Nadal didn't play as bad as some people say he did either (well, at least in the first three sets.)

ReturnWinner
12-19-2007, 09:54 PM
that's it. wonderful performance by the Russian

he showed how to play against Rafa. Fast, flat shots, forcing him to run from corner to corner. it's easy to defend against such thing on clay, but on decoturf not always give a profit. Misha played a match of his life, he played like a Top 5 player. Better than Ivan and Fat Dave together

Now, can Youzhny defeat Roddick/Hewitt?
LOL

ReturnWinner
12-19-2007, 09:55 PM
that was an amazing display from youzhny, he hasnt been able to produce it again
Against Ljubicic in Rotterdam??? he played great there

scarecrows
12-19-2007, 11:28 PM
LOL

in 2006 Nalby was in top and wasnt playing any good

Against Ljubicic in Rotterdam??? he played great there

against Ljubicic is a different kind of game, points are shorter and he could finish points in 1-2 attacks whereas against nadal he had to consistently hit with full power and sometimes needed 4-5 attacking shots to put the ball away and a series of very risku backhands DTL

Veronique
12-19-2007, 11:43 PM
Oh well! Rafa still has 3 GS titles and countless MS trophies. He has defeated Youzhny in their last 3 encounters. Will he let Youzhny get the best of him on any surface again? I hope not!

sawan66278
12-20-2007, 03:57 AM
Now looking back in retrospect, I clearly see why Rafa lost. I was in attendance at this match. Three years ago, I was in attendance at the Blake debacle. Last year, Misha continued the tradition. AND this year, with me staying in NY until 4:00 A.M. watching him LIVE AGAIN...he went down in flames to David and Company.

If anyone wants my tix for next year's open on the days Rafa plays, they are free to have them.;)

Corey Feldman
12-20-2007, 04:48 AM
Sawan

any chance of you going to watch him play in Roland Garros next year then?

1st round would be preferable

;)

Johnny Groove
12-20-2007, 05:08 AM
Or Fed's first round in wimbledon

adee-gee
12-20-2007, 08:39 AM
Why is this thread which is bumped kept open but Nadal def. Federer in Rome which is bumped gets closed?

Is the ego king running this board?