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So much junkballing by Murray - It's like Gilbert is playing!

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 05:01 PM
I hope Kolya makes him pay for such a passive disgraceful display of tennis! :mad:

I can appreciate his tactical sense and smarts, and it sure is nice to have someone playing differently nowadays when everyone is just bashing the ball, but some initiative and explosiveness would be nice for a change :rolleyes:

Byrd
09-05-2006, 05:04 PM
I hope Kolya makes him pay for such a passive disgraceful display of tennis! :mad:

I can appreciate his tactical sense and smarts, and it sure is nice to have someone playing differently nowadays when everyone is just bashing the ball, but some initiative and explosiveness would be nice for a change :rolleyes:

He can't sustain that kind of play for obvious reasons. I think once he bulks up a bit, he'll be much more aggressive.

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Murray is digging himself a hole.

By playing at this pace with all the long rallies he's turning it into an endurance contest against Kolya, one he stands no chance of winning :devil:

adee-gee
09-05-2006, 05:13 PM
It's a tactic, which has been working at times and not working at times.

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 05:17 PM
It's a tactic, which has been working at times and not working at times.
It doesn't seem to be working at the moment :devil:

Also, like I've already mentioned, dragging Kolya to a long match is quite a tactic :tape:

revolution
09-05-2006, 05:19 PM
Whenever he's gone for it he's missed. It's like a carbon copy for their IW match.

adee-gee
09-05-2006, 05:20 PM
It doesn't seem to be working at the moment :devil:

Also, like I've already mentioned, dragging Kolya to a long match is quite a tactic :tape:
It almost did, he was 2-0 up in the 3rd and had break points for a double break. Andy hasn't been playing well, and other than the first set, Davydenko has been making a ton of errors.

I agree he's been getting involved in too many long rallies though.

RAIN! :D good news for Andy :p

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 05:23 PM
It almost did, he was 2-0 up in the 3rd and had break points for a double break.
Yeah, at first Kolya seemed surprised by the junk Murray was throwing at him, than it seemed like he was thinking "what the hell" and started hitting his angles again with that superb backhand of his :D

Lullaby
09-05-2006, 05:54 PM
sky are reporting a big disagrement with Gilbert over tactics during the match - I bet it is a fun discussion down there right now!

revolution
09-05-2006, 06:00 PM
He's got to be more aggressive.

Lullaby
09-05-2006, 06:03 PM
He's got to be more aggressive.

They said thats what he wants

Brad wants him to play as he is

And he is lost somewhere in between lol

They also think he is scared of taking that step into the quarters in a slam - He had an easy chance for 3 - 0 in that set so they may not be wrong ;)

TFan1156
09-05-2006, 06:15 PM
It doesn't seem to be working at the moment :devil:

Also, like I've already mentioned, dragging Kolya to a long match is quite a tactic :tape:

Well you got the devil icon going but mother nature had other ideas. Fitness no longer a factor and Murray gifted an extended coaching session... ;)

scoobs
09-05-2006, 06:40 PM
I'm not sure what the answer is - this match so far has all been about PMK - his rhythm, his style of play, his winners, his errors, his mental walkabouts, his moments of brilliance. Murray is just along for the ride and he has not found a way of dragging PMK out of the comfort zone. I feel he's got to do that - PMK is, when he's switched on, too solid at the back for Murray to hope to come off best in enough of those exchanges. And PMK is switched on in these matches more often than he's on walkabout. I doubt PMK will gift him another set so Murray's gonna have to step it up somehow.

Eddster
09-05-2006, 06:43 PM
PMK why is Davydenko called PMK? (hope this isn't a noob comment)

scoobs
09-05-2006, 06:44 PM
PMK - Poor Man's Kafelnikov - sums up Davydenko perfectly.

Also, I think he looks like a young Montgomery Burns. Anyone? :)

Lullaby
09-05-2006, 06:46 PM
Murray missed far too many break opportunities in that last set - If he had of got that double break I think we'd be here with him 2-1 up now

Oh well I guess it is all good experience for him!

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 06:46 PM
I'm not sure what the answer is - this match so far has all been about PMK - his rhythm, his style of play, his winners, his errors, his mental walkabouts, his moments of brilliance. Murray is just along for the ride and he has not found a way of dragging PMK out of the comfort zone. I feel he's got to do that - PMK is, when he's switched on, too solid at the back for Murray to hope to come off best in enough of those exchanges. And PMK is switched on in these matches more often than he's on walkabout. I doubt PMK will gift him another set so Murray's gonna have to step it up somehow.
I beg to differ, I think Murray is gifted enough to have a say in the match without trying to outhit Kolya from the backcourt.
He is, to me, a crude version of Nalbandian technically and an improved one mentally, and I see him as a future champ, but moonballing is obviously not the way for him to express his gifts on the court.

i love paradorn
09-05-2006, 06:47 PM
why do you bust out an acronym that nobody has even heard of?

scoobs
09-05-2006, 06:48 PM
Murray is gifted enough, yes, my point is - so far he HASN'T imposed himself on the course of the match - merely taken appropriate advantage of a sloppy lapse from PMK in that second set.

I was expecting him to be working PMK around more - more short angles, more dropshots, more variation of pace and spin. For the most part though he's seemed happiest to play pacey groundstroke rallies with PMK and has tended to come off worst

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 06:49 PM
why do you bust out an acronym that nobody has even heard of?
I'm pretty sure PMK is GWHitler's inovation.

scoobs
09-05-2006, 06:49 PM
why do you bust out an acronym that nobody has even heard of?

so...people can hear about it? :rolleyes:

scoobs
09-05-2006, 06:49 PM
I'm pretty sure PMK is GWHitler's inovation.
It is, and it's perfect.

DrJules
09-05-2006, 06:50 PM
Murray is digging himself a hole.

By playing at this pace with all the long rallies he's turning it into an endurance contest against Kolya, one he stands no chance of winning :devil:

They are trying to bore each other to defeat. Maybe the crowd should ask for a refund. :devil:

Lullaby
09-05-2006, 06:55 PM
Weird thing is on his experience my passion video on the atp site he says and I quote

"I always have problems playing Davydenko"

Sounds like pyschological self fulfilling prophecy to me!

lordmanji
09-05-2006, 06:59 PM
PMK is not a fitting description for Davydenko and thus the resistance. Davy is much faster, and I'd say his bh has more wicked angles. Also, Davy is his own person and has his own compelling history. Just because they're Russian and Kafelny has grandslams doesn't justify the unfair and belittling comparison for I believe Davy has the game for at least one grandslam.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 07:11 PM
:retard:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 07:30 PM
:retard:
Oh, I forgot who the #1 fan of junkballing was :lol:

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 07:35 PM
Oh, I forgot who the #1 fan of junkballing was :lol:

Looks like you´ve just seen Murray playing for first time today

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 07:37 PM
Looks like you´ve just seen Murray playing for first time today
No, and in previous matches he played smart tennis, not coward.

revolution
09-05-2006, 07:37 PM
PMK has well gone down in my book with his comments about his opponent before the match.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 07:40 PM
No, and in previous matches he played smart tennis, not coward.

He always plays smart tennis, and he´s playing his usual self today. Sometimes Kolya forces you to play defensively most of the time and the 11th game in the 2nd set was just a beauty from Andy playing smart and full of talent defense, it´s called knowing the players

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 07:51 PM
He always plays smart tennis, and he´s playing his usual self today. Sometimes Kolya forces you to play defensively most of the time and the 11th game in the 2nd set was just a beauty from Andy playing smart and full of talent defense, it´s called knowing the players
And in the 3rd it was all about being passive and waiting for Kolya to make the mistake, and that, IMO, is an admission in his inferiority, but seeing as our taste in styles of play differ I can easily see why you might find that kind of tennis pleasing ;)

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 07:55 PM
And in the 3rd it was all about being passive and waiting for Kolya to make the mistake, and that, IMO, is an admission in his inferiority, but seeing as our taste in styles of play differ I can easily see why you might find that kind of tennis pleasing ;)

Murray has won many matches like that, even against supposedly more defensive players (Ferrer, for instance) that´s why I think you don´t know him well enough. Despite being a shotmaker, his returns and defensive skills are the best part of his game, I understand you´d rather see hit a winner at 200 km/h better than an smart defensive shot onto your opponent´s feet at the net, but you should understand that´s also a beautiful thing to see for others

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 07:58 PM
Murray has won many matches like that, even against supposedly more defensive players (Ferrer, for instance) despite being a shotmaker, his returns and defensive skills are the best part of his game, I understand you´d rather see hit a winner at 200 km/h better than an smart defensive shot onto your opponent´s feet at the net, but you should understand that´s also a beautiful thing to see for others
Hitting fluffy shots to the middle of the court when your opponent is standing on the baseline is nothing to marvel at.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 07:59 PM
Hitting fluffy shots to the middle of the court when your opponent is standing on the baseline is nothing to marvel at.

Not every shot has a smart sense in a 18 yrs old player, hope you won´t kill him for that :rolleyes:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:04 PM
Not every shot has a smart sense in a 18 yrs old player, hope you won´t kill him for that :rolleyes:
It's not like there was a whole lot to figure out about his tactics there, his sole idea was to piss Kolya off by junkballing him to death, nothing sophisticated, and, seeing who the guy in his corner is, it's pretty clear where that idea came from.
Luckily, that plan proved wrong, and we might be able to watch some real tennis when play resumes.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:05 PM
I hope Murray reads this disgusting bullshit PMK said in that interview, go to hell you bald wanker.

Link for that, please?

revolution
09-05-2006, 08:06 PM
Link for that, please?

On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:06 PM
It's not like there was a whole lot to figure out about his tactics there, his sole idea was to piss Kolya off by junkballing him to death, nothing sophisticated, and, seeing who the guy in his corner is, it's pretty clear where that idea came from.
Luckily, that plan proved wrong, and we might be able to watch some real tennis when play resumes.

Wrong assumption, he´s using the same tactic he used in IW, ie being just himself, so go and learn more about the players, dude

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:07 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.

:eek:

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:08 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.

Thanks for that, now I know who to cheer for in this match, go Muzza

Neverstopfightin
09-05-2006, 08:09 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.

Sorry but I don't buy he has said those things

revolution
09-05-2006, 08:10 PM
Sorry but I don't buy he has said those things

Yeah well you don't have Sky Sports do you lad?

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Wrong assumption, he´s using the same tactic he used in IW, ie being just himself, so go and learn more about the players, dude
Alright, tennis guru, I beg you to pour some of your vast knowledge regarding ATP players, what they are like and what they need to do in order to be true to themselves, as well as why a player who usually hits many winners is reduced to pitiful junkballing, assuming he confides you daily.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:15 PM
Alright, tennis guru, I beg you to pour some of your vast knowledge regarding ATP players, what they are like and what they need to do in order to be true to themselves, as well as why a player who usually hits many winners is reduced to pitiful junkballing, assuming he confides you daily.

You started this thread as if Glibert had modified Murray´s style and as if Murray was some kind of Gasquet/Berdych/Baghdatis and that´s just bullshit. Don´t post nonsense and I won´t jump, jackass :retard:

Neverstopfightin
09-05-2006, 08:17 PM
Yeah well you don't have Sky Sports do you lad?

I don't.

I can't simply buy that Davydenko has said those things the same way you are telling them . It looks to me as if you were doing a free interpretation of his comments exaggerating them.

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:17 PM
Don´t post nonsense and I won´t jump, jackass :retard:
Always nice to examine your ever growing vocabulary

decrepitude
09-05-2006, 08:18 PM
Those wanting to know what Davydenko said can read it here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,5205-2342632,00.html

Edit - oops, that isn't the right one, I know I read it all somewhere - I'll try to find it. Nothing else to do after all - darn rain.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:19 PM
Always nice to examine your ever growing vocabulary

I still have to call a poster "hijo de puta" as u once did :angel:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:20 PM
I still have to call a poster "hijo de puta" as u once did :angel:
I start thinking alexito36 and you are the same person :lol:

World Beater
09-05-2006, 08:22 PM
I start thinking alexito36 and you are the same person :lol:

alexito was very amusing...

:haha:

revolution
09-05-2006, 08:23 PM
I don't.

I can't simply buy that Davydenko has said those things the same way you are telling them . It looks to me as if you were doing a free interpretation of his comments exaggerating them.

You just wish it was the other way round.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:24 PM
I start thinking alexito36 and you are the same person :lol:

That conclusion from yours doesn´t suprise me at all after your what I´ve read in this thread :D

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:24 PM
alexito was very amusing...

:haha:
Well, I guess they are not the same person after all :sad:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:26 PM
That conclusion from yours doesn´t suprise me at all after your what I´ve read in this thread :D
On the other hand, you are just as ridiculous as alexito36, so all is not lost yet :D

Neely
09-05-2006, 08:31 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.
lol, I hope for Davydenko he did not mean that as harsh as it sounds when reading that. Or else I would ask Davydenko what he has done so far, depite being several years older and longer on the tour, except winning a few Mickey Mouses like St Pölten, Pörtschach, Munich, Sopot, New Haven, Adelaide and reaching the rankings he got so far... :o

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:31 PM
Alright, tennis guru, I beg you to pour some of your vast knowledge regarding ATP players, what they are like and what they need to do in order to be true to themselves, as well as why a player who usually hits many winners is reduced to pitiful junkballing, assuming he confides you daily.

It´s a match-up issue, basically, maybe due to your lack of knowledge about which are Andy´s strenghts and how Kolya style matches up with his made you were expecting he could hit 70 winners through Kolya, not my problem you don´t have a clue :hug:

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:33 PM
On the other hand, you are just as ridiculous as alexito36, so all is not lost yet :D

Ridiculous is your knowledge about the style of a player called Andy Murray :D

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:34 PM
It´s a match-up issue, basically, maybe due to your lack of knowledge about which are Andy´s strenghts and how Kolya style matches up with his made you were expecting he could hit 70 winners through Kolya, not my problem you don´t have a clue :hug:
Point in case, this tactic has worked wonders for Murray so far in this match, you win - I lose :bowdown:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 08:47 PM
Let's go through Murray's previous rounds:

Kendrick:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day9/1128ms.html
33 winners, 27 UE's
Surely even an extremely defensive player like Murray is going to score a positive w/ue's ratio against a player who comes in behind every serve, go figure, even Nadal managed that :confused:

Di Mauro:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day11/1214ms.html
34 winners, 22 UE's
Di Mauro is a n00b, so that kind of stats is to be expected I uess...

Gonzalez:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day13/1307ms.html
51 winners, 25 UE's
Hmmm... let's see, Gonzo is the ultimate attacking player, if Murray really is the defensive player you suggest he is why should he hit so many winners vs. a player that'd destruct himself anyway? Isn't the tactic that was on display today vs. Kolya the perfect one for that kind of match, assuming Murray really is that defensive...? No, becasue he's not, and you're an idiot who pretends to understand the game.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Let's go through Murray's previous rounds:

Kendrick:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day9/1128ms.html
33 winners, 27 UE's
Surely even an extremely defensive player like Murray is going to score a positive w/ue's ratio against a player who comes in behind every serve, go figure, even Nadal managed that :confused:

Di Mauro:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day11/1214ms.html
34 winners, 22 UE's
Di Mauro is a n00b, so that kind of stats is to be expected I uess...

Gonzalez:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day13/1307ms.html
51 winners, 25 UE's
Hmmm... let's see, Gonzo is the ultimate attacking player, if Murray really is the defensive player you suggest he is why should he hit so many winners vs. a player that'd destruct himself anyway? Isn't the tactic that was on display today vs. Kolya the perfect one for that kind of match, assuming Murray really is that defensive...? No, becasue he's not, and you're an idiot who pretends to understand the game.

Well, let´see if u are able to understand:

I didn´t saw the match against González, but I know it´s a completely different match-up from Kolya. First of all you can´t hit through Davydenko the same way you can hit through the vast majority of the players as he defends like 10 times better than González, secondly, for example, Murray likes to work a lot his points on his cc bh, and of course Gonzo´s bh doesn´t have the same power or creates the same angles than Davydenko´s one, it´s much more attackable for example with a bh dtl. That should be enough to create an easy option for either an outright winner or a follow-up from midcourt. Any more questions, rookie? (btw I´m looking for an interview from Murray where he talked about his style so you can get your little brain sunk in the sand for a while :D )

Scotso
09-05-2006, 08:58 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.

That doesn't sound like Nikolay. Did he volunteer that or were they responses to some kind of questions?

Lullaby
09-05-2006, 09:01 PM
Murray could not have seen that comment or he'd have been fired up from the start of this match especially with his personality - Next time there will be fireworks lol

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 09:05 PM
Let's go through Murray's previous rounds:

Kendrick:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day9/1128ms.html
33 winners, 27 UE's
Surely even an extremely defensive player like Murray is going to score a positive w/ue's ratio against a player who comes in behind every serve, go figure, even Nadal managed that :confused:

Di Mauro:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day11/1214ms.html
34 winners, 22 UE's
Di Mauro is a n00b, so that kind of stats is to be expected I uess...

Gonzalez:
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/stats/day13/1307ms.html
51 winners, 25 UE's
Hmmm... let's see, Gonzo is the ultimate attacking player, if Murray really is the defensive player you suggest he is why should he hit so many winners vs. a player that'd destruct himself anyway? Isn't the tactic that was on display today vs. Kolya the perfect one for that kind of match, assuming Murray really is that defensive...? No, becasue he's not, and you're an idiot who pretends to understand the game.

Another question for u genius, how came always-attacking Murray hitted only a small bunch of winners against grinder Ferrer and forced him into 40+ ues for two sets in Canada?

alelysafina
09-05-2006, 09:06 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.

That does not sound like Nikolay. Kolya would never say anything like that about any player.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 09:13 PM
Q. How bad a day was that for you?

ANDY MURRAY: Well, it wasn't my best day. But, you know, you can't play well every single day. You know, it's the first time I've been easily beaten since I've been on the tour. It's a little bit disappointing. I played really silly tennis for two sets. I played better in the third. I was just trying to be way too aggressive. I was making so many mistakes. That's just not the way that I play. When I did start to play my game, I had a lot of chances in the third set to break him. I didn't take them. I'm disappointed that I lost so easily. But, you know, I think I was due a bad match. Unfortunately, it came here.

Q. Were you nervous, tight at the beginning?

ANDY MURRAY: No, I wasn't nervous, no. I mean, the way that I was playing, I didn't feel nervous. I was just -- I was just going for far too much. I was playing the way -- the opposite to how I play my best tennis. It wasn't nerves. I wasn't thinking properly.


GSM Deivid 6-0 6-0

Summary of the match: Poor Rogioncrack looked clueless out there, nothing more to add :sad:

Lullaby
09-05-2006, 09:14 PM
That does not sound like Nikolay. Kolya would never say anything like that about any player.

Could be paper spin but unlikely with the times paper ...

Now if it had been a tabloid I'd have said for sure it was them stirring like they do for opponents of all british sportsmen :mad:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 09:19 PM
GSM Deivid 6-0 6-0

Summary of the match: Poor Rogioncrack looked clueless out there, nothing more to add :sad:
I know you like to keep things simple (hence your admiration of El Chancho), but there is a difference between not going for broke on every shot and playing like a pussy, which is what Muzza was doing today.
Now go back to your pen, Burro.

alelysafina
09-05-2006, 09:21 PM
Could be paper spin but unlikely with the times paper ...

Now if it had been a tabloid I'd have said for sure it was them stirring like they do for opponents of all british sportsmen :mad:

The times also said Kolya is dating that Camille chick.... And I know for a fact that's not true.

ExpectedWinner
09-05-2006, 09:24 PM
Rogiman, Murray is a defensive player by nature. He'll attack at the right time when he sees the openning, but someone has to create the situation for him and Kolya doesn't do it.

scoobs
09-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Well we're rained off until tomorrow now anyway.

Deivid23
09-05-2006, 09:28 PM
Rogiman, Murray is a defensive player by nature. He'll attack at the right time when he sees the openning, but someone has to create the situation for him and Kolya doesn't do it.

Another bagel coming against the overrated Jewish boardbasher :lol:

Rogiman
09-05-2006, 09:30 PM
Rogiman, Murray is a defensive player by nature. He'll attack at the right time when he sees the openning, but someone has to create the situation for him and Kolya doesn't do it.
Did you watch today's 3rd set?
He usually works his opponents out, trying to open the court with angled shots, but he did absolutely nothing - basically kept the ball in play and hoped something would happen.
It seemed to confuse Kolya for a couple games, and then he just realised he had the ball set-up nicely for his shots every time and won 5 games on the run.

Eddster
09-05-2006, 09:43 PM
I just think Murray was giving Davydenko the initiative all the time by not getting enough depth on his groundstrokes. Also I think if possible he should use the dropshot to get Davydenko to the net and then pass him as from what I've seen/heard Davydenko isn't the greatest volleyer in the world.

ExpectedWinner
09-05-2006, 10:01 PM
Did you watch today's 3rd set?




I did not. One set or one match can't change the basics that has been installed in him over 10-12 years or so.

Jogy
09-05-2006, 10:46 PM
Another bagel coming against the overrated Jewish boardbasher :lol:
:lol:

adee-gee
09-05-2006, 10:54 PM
PMK - Poor Man's Kafelnikov - sums up Davydenko perfectly.

Also, I think he looks like a young Montgomery Burns. Anyone? :)
:haha:

adee-gee
09-05-2006, 10:57 PM
On Sky Sports coverage Davydenko said that Murray has done nothing at all on tour, is overrated, and won't amount to anything in the future, as well as saying he is disliked in the locker room.
And that Federer wasn't trying against him in Cincy, because he doesn't lose when he tries :retard:

Allstar
09-05-2006, 11:03 PM
Awful match but it always going to be when you have two defensive players going at it. Davydenko hasnt exactly been great.

Rogiman
09-06-2006, 07:14 AM
:lol:
Did the word "jewish" turn you on? :lol:

Action Jackson
09-06-2006, 07:18 AM
Weird thing is on his experience my passion video on the atp site he says and I quote

"I always have problems playing Davydenko"

Sounds like pyschological self fulfilling prophecy to me!

That is what Tomas Berdych said about the PMK.