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HAAS IS A CHEAT

thrust
09-04-2006, 06:44 PM
Bullshit injury! He was tired so took a injury time out to get a longer rest. He was tired, NOT injured as his play after the phony injury time out showed. I hope Safin kicks is ass!

Scotso
09-04-2006, 06:45 PM
Yeah, I didn't really buy that injury.

supertommyhaas
09-04-2006, 06:46 PM
Ginepri Stll should have broke when he had 0-40!! I sense sour grapes

TheBoiledEgg
09-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Bagel Boy lost, deal with it :lol:

muggy
09-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Definitely a time out that wasn't injury related.

That aside, Ginepri really should've broken, triple break point at 5-5 in the 5th. He got unlucky at the end, a lot of his shots started goin long by a few inches. I gotta give it up to the guy though, he kept swinging till the end.

Haas deserved to lose with all those doubles.

Scotso
09-04-2006, 06:48 PM
Ginepri Stll should have broke when he had 0-40!! I sense sour grapes

Wait, weren't you just attacking Tommy in another thread?

scarecrows
09-04-2006, 06:48 PM
yeah that was surprising

I have never seen a player do that


ever

MisterQ
09-04-2006, 06:48 PM
Tummy Haas

scoobs
09-04-2006, 06:50 PM
Deserve scheserve

You go out and do it, or you don't. Ginepri had his chances at the end, he had 3bp to serve for the match and blew it and he was on even keel in the breaker and put ball after ball out.

BlakeorHenman
09-04-2006, 06:50 PM
Bullshit injury! He was tired so took a injury time out to get a longer rest. He was tired, NOT injured as his play after the phony injury time out showed. I hope Safin kicks is ass!

I hope Safin wins also, but for very, very different reasons

thrust
09-04-2006, 07:03 PM
Perhaps Ginepri blew some chances to win the match earlier, but to call for a phony injury time out just before a 5th set tiebreaker is shameful to anyone who believes in sportsmanship.

Neely
09-04-2006, 07:12 PM
:yawn: :yawn:

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 07:16 PM
Ginepri sucks :wavey:

revolution
09-04-2006, 07:21 PM
Ginepri sucks :wavey:

Ginepri is one of those manufactured wooden factory players with nothing amazingly special apart from a nice FH.

Scotso
09-04-2006, 07:23 PM
Ginepri sucks :wavey:

Ivan lost 1r :wavey:

Tommy_Vercetti
09-04-2006, 07:23 PM
Don't matter, Ginepri deserved to lose.

scoobs
09-04-2006, 07:24 PM
Honestly, they both deserved to lose - it's a toss-up as to which deserved to lose more but in the end Ginepri decided to step up and claim the loss.

The HAAS Admirer
09-04-2006, 07:30 PM
ohh deal with it Ginepri lost he had a chance to win and he didnt have the balls, he led in almost all of Tommy's service games, its a pity Tommy even let him into the match, Tommy played like crap to lose the third and the 4th set, infact it was 5th set and Tommy still played like crap yet he still beat Ginepri, what does that say about that loser:)
Instead of complaining like a little bitch deal with the fact that your player doesnt have the heart to win when a match is handed to him, and I have nothing personal against Robbi, he is just a waste of talent.
and you werent on court, you dont know what Tommy was feeling, he played a good two sets and than started playing like crap, so as far as I am concerned, he could have had some physical issues:(
Maybe he didnt, but its just a couple of minutes, doesnt change the fact that Robbi choked 3 points that would have won him the match, I give it up to Tommy for pulling out the win, he did good in that tiebreak he couldnt move and still won, kind of funny, good job Tommy and good luck against Marat, boy is that gonna be a good match, quality players and headcases.

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 07:31 PM
Ivan lost 1r :wavey:

Ivan is 49-15
and Ginepri is 13-20

:wavey:

:)

Tommy_Vercetti
09-04-2006, 07:32 PM
0-40 in that situation. Definently Ginepri was the bigger choker and won the loser contest.

I think Robby needs to start dating another actress to get attention away from his game.

JMG
09-04-2006, 07:42 PM
Haas accused Berdych of acting, so he better don't do that himself. ;)

MariaV
09-04-2006, 07:45 PM
Honestly, they both deserved to lose - it's a toss-up as to which deserved to lose more but in the end Ginepri decided to step up and claim the loss.
:haha:

fabolous
09-04-2006, 07:56 PM
haas had breathing problems, believe it or not, i don't care and thommy probably not, too.


apart from that, where are the violins? ahhhh here they are: http://smiliestation.de/smileys/Musik/15.gif http://smiliestation.de/smileys/Musik/15.gif

LleytonMonfils
09-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Ginepri had his chances but that injury timeout was wayyy bogus and dirty... Ginepri had the momentum, and Haas was tired. He knows if he goes down early 0-15 the fans are gonna get into it give Ginepri a boost and before he knows it he is down 0-30 and still tired and Ginepri cleans it up from there. 3 minutes plus to rest and catch your breathe yea that was pretty messed up. A breathing problem IMO is not an injury... it just means your opponent is wearing you out and ur fitness isn't as good as his. Needs to be a fine line between injury and buying time.

Mistaflava
09-04-2006, 08:23 PM
listen up...I had huge money on Ginepri and lost.

However, what Haas did was smart. Sure it was a bitch move but it's allowed in tennis and why not take advantage of what they give you? It was smart...period.

I lost money but I lost because one guy used his brain and the other folded in TB's.

Mistaflava
09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
Ivan is 49-15
and Ginepri is 13-20

:wavey:

:)


Ivan is also the champ when it comes to having face cream plastered on his dirty face during matches. Congrats.

:haha:

Havok
09-04-2006, 08:27 PM
Ginepri is a tool.

Viva Hasi!:banana: Take out Safin now and make the quarters :drool:.

CarstenL01
09-04-2006, 08:33 PM
Bullshit...

If Ginepri is not able to stay on his level of play it's not tommy's problem ;)

El Legenda
09-04-2006, 08:33 PM
Ivan is also the champ when it comes to having face cream plastered on his dirty face during matches. Congrats.

:haha:


coming from a guy who bet on a player with 13-20 record :haha: :haha: :haha: jackass.

scarecrows
09-04-2006, 08:35 PM
listen up...I had huge money on Ginepri and lost.

However, what Haas did was smart. Sure it was a bitch move but it's allowed in tennis and why not take advantage of what they give you? It was smart...period.

I lost money but I lost because one guy used his brain and the other folded in TB's.

do you ever win?

Jagermeister
09-04-2006, 09:44 PM
Ivan is also the champ when it comes to having face cream plastered on his dirty face during matches. Congrats.

:haha:

lmao

tennisgal_001
09-04-2006, 09:49 PM
Haas is not a cheat. Ginepri is a total chokejob. I don't think Haas's 2 extra minutes wrecked it for Robby!

Jagermeister
09-04-2006, 09:51 PM
Well, Haas took a rules-allowed break so he's not a cheat

He's a punk (or at least he pulled off a punk move) but he's not a cheat.

Will Ginepri fall out of the top 40 now?

Jogy
09-05-2006, 12:53 AM
I hope Tommy cheated with the injury and had nothing because it would meaning that he will be healthy for Safin :) :p

JW10S
09-05-2006, 03:16 AM
Haas didn't cheat, he was within the rules--it's the rules that are bad. There was a time when there was a differentiation between an injury and what was termed "a lack of condition". Players were able to call a trainer only if they were injured, i.e., blister, sprain, fall, etc. Cramps, breathing problems, dizziness, illness,etc. were considered to be a lack of condition and did not warrent an injury timeout. That all changed at the US Open about 10 years when Shuzo Matsuoka was involved in a long match on a hot humid day. At one point he fell to the ground writhing and screaming in agony in the throws of full body cramps and no one was allowed to treat him. Only after he was defaulted for delay of game was the medical staff able to attend him. It was very disturbing to watch. After that the injury timeout rules were changed so nothing like that would happen again. However the rules have gone too far the other way and are now too lenient. I'd wager the injury timeout rules will be revisisted soon.

Pigpen Stinks
09-05-2006, 03:36 AM
Sour grapes from the Ginepri fans. It would have been more of an issue if Ginepri was down 5-6 serving to stay in the match. Regardless, Haas didn't break any rules, and I don't even think it was an attempt at gamesmanship. Robby needs to get tougher mentally.

Jagermeister
09-05-2006, 03:46 AM
Sour grapes from the Ginepri fans. It would have been more of an issue if Ginepri was down 5-6 serving to stay in the match. Regardless, Haas didn't break any rules, and I don't even think it was an attempt at gamesmanship. Robby needs to get tougher mentally.

Ginepri has fans? :)

Haas didn't break any rules, that's for sure. It was definitely gamesmanship. And yes, Ginepri needs to toughen up.

haas'luv
09-05-2006, 04:41 AM
haha it was just a rule-allowed break.well done tommy:) hope u'll do a better job when against safin^^

doublebackhand
09-05-2006, 05:14 AM
haas is a jerk, did anyone notice how he treated the ballboys? so frigging rude!! i hope safin takes him out the next round (so roger can play him in the semi!)

ugotlobbed
09-05-2006, 05:17 AM
his gf is so hot though u cannot be serious

Neely
09-05-2006, 05:32 AM
haas is a jerk, did anyone notice how he treated the ballboys? so frigging rude!!
I really hope the ballkids survived it....

16681
09-05-2006, 06:04 AM
I really hope the ballkids survived it....
I don't know why Tommy was giving the kids getting the tennis balls a hard time. His coach was there for him to yell at. Tommy just has to yell at someone even if it's only himself :lol:

Action Jackson
09-05-2006, 06:07 AM
I don't like either player, but it's a stupid rule and while it's there it will be abused, then again nearly everyone always looks for the easy option, when it's there.

dmit424
09-05-2006, 06:52 AM
Who cares, it was against Ginepri.

Mistaflava
09-05-2006, 07:06 AM
Who cares, it was against Ginepri.


Now that ladies and gentlemen...is your quote of the night.

CarstenL01
09-05-2006, 10:36 AM
Who cares, it was against Ginepri.

:bigclap: :haha:

cmurray
09-05-2006, 11:34 AM
:lol: Ginepri didn't lose 3 break points because Tommy faked an injury. It was an ugly match. Neither guy deserved to win. Lord almighty - how many times did Haas double fault?

CarstenL01
09-05-2006, 01:00 PM
:lol: Ginepri didn't lose 3 break points because Tommy faked an injury. It was an ugly match. Neither guy deserved to win. Lord almighty - how many times did Haas double fault?

2 times when he faced break points :help:

Pea
09-06-2006, 05:31 PM
LOL, he's taking bathroom breaks like sharapova and vaidosva does.

Fumus
09-06-2006, 05:44 PM
Haas is a headcase, I am sure he thought he had an injury. He thinks he's injured all the time. Robby lost that match, Haas didn't win it.

Jogy
09-06-2006, 08:34 PM
LOL, he's taking bathroom breaks like sharapova and vaidosva does.
it is allowed and it was not too long, so shut up and look at your favourites what assholes they are :)

:zzz:

Pea
09-07-2006, 12:23 AM
it is allowed and it was not too long, so shut up and look at your favourites what assholes they are :)

:zzz:

I love you and your pansy fav.

Vass
09-07-2006, 10:37 PM
Bump.

That injury time-out was rediculous. REDICULOUS.

buddyholly
09-07-2006, 10:39 PM
I heard him say ''................just wasting time.''

The trainer replied ''I can't believe you said that.''

Tommy laughed.

Broomie
09-07-2006, 10:42 PM
that's just too much.
They should set a number of injury time outs you can't exceed. If you need 3 time outs in the whole match, or 2 in the same set, i don't know, you just withdraw. That's nonsense!

rofe
09-07-2006, 10:43 PM
I heard him say ''................just wasting time.''

The trainer replied ''I can't believe you said that.''

Tommy laughed.

:lol: Tommy can't even keep his mouth shut.

Vass
09-07-2006, 10:43 PM
I heard him say ''................just wasting time.''

The trainer replied ''I can't believe you said that.''

Tommy laughed.
To be fair, it could have been a joke. Didn't look so though.

Jimnik
09-07-2006, 10:44 PM
Tommy again trying to take his opponent out of his rhythm.
It nearly worked.

FedererGrandSlam
09-07-2006, 10:45 PM
Bump.

That injury time-out was rediculous. REDICULOUS.
If you spell it wrong then you shouldn't post it twice at least. :lol:

Saumon
09-07-2006, 10:45 PM
cheater cheater cheater :ras:

Scotso
09-07-2006, 10:48 PM
Haas is such an incredible dick. :o Both he and Kiefer... what do they do to those tennis kids in Germany?

The way he yelled right at the ballkids. :scared:

Vass
09-07-2006, 10:50 PM
If you spell it wrong then you shouldn't post it twice at least. :lol:
Sorry and thanks. :worship:

FedererGrandSlam
09-07-2006, 10:51 PM
Haas is such an incredible dick. :o Both he and Kiefer... what do they do to those tennis kids in Germany?

The way he yelled right at the ballkids. :scared:
While I agree that their behaviour is often questionable/ridiculous, it should be noted that Haas has been in Florida since the age of 13 so ...

bellascarlett
09-07-2006, 10:52 PM
Tommy again trying to take his opponent out of his rhythm.
It nearly worked.

After seeing that unnecessary timeout, so glad Davydenko tossed him out of competition. :o

Vass
09-07-2006, 11:30 PM
After seeing that unnecessary timeout, so glad Davydenko tossed him out of competition. :o
I was actually a bit sad for his inability to close out the match before he did it.

scoobs
09-07-2006, 11:37 PM
Yeah that injury timeout was totally tactical to make Davydenko dwell on just being broken having had a match point.

Nearly worked, too - but it didn't in the end. Bad Tommy - still he's from Bolletieri's - they teach em to work any advantage they can find. I don't like it, though and I'm sorta glad Davydenko didn't blow it as a result.

Pea
09-07-2006, 11:42 PM
:drool: Makes it much sweeter that he was up 2 sets to nil. jogy!:wavey:

Neely
09-08-2006, 10:27 AM
Well, I didn't hear many complaints from Russian fans when Andreev took two unnecessary injury time outs in the Moscow final to disrupt his opponent's rhythm which clearly worked ;)

So, I can only laugh at some comments that people still can't deal with this rule while it seemed to be perfectly okay at another time :)

Vass
09-08-2006, 10:44 AM
Well, I didn't hear many complaints from Russian fans when Andreev took two unnecessary injury time outs in the Moscow final to disrupt his opponent's rhythm which clearly worked ;)

So, I can only laugh at some comments that people still can't deal with this rule while it seemed to be perfectly okay at another time :)
Not all russian fans are like this. I almost hate Andreev. He's a bit of a 'slippery' character.

Neely
09-08-2006, 10:50 AM
Not all russian fans are like this. I almost hate Andreev. He's a bit of a 'slippery' character.
I know not all are the same. You are excluded then :)

But what I wanted to say in essence: it is clear that we all have our favourite players and might react differently when the same things occur in different matches involving different players, but it's still not very correct to excuse (or brush under the carpet) an injury timeout of player X while it's almost a crime and -almost categorically- ALWAYS gamesmanship when player Y does it.

scoobs
09-08-2006, 10:53 AM
Having said what I said above - I remember Davydenko pulling a similar stunt in the Davis Cup tie against France earlier this year - except he did it in the middle of a tiebreak.

Then again he may have actually been injured because he didn't play the reverse singles, which allowed Tursunov to claim the famous win over Gasquet.

Action Jackson
09-08-2006, 12:45 PM
So, I can only laugh at some comments that people still can't deal with this rule while it seemed to be perfectly okay at another time :)

Just like I laugh at some of your comments, it's called balance. It's always been a shit rule or does that mean I think it's Ok, depending on who takes advantage?